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November 20, 2025 33 mins
Mayor-elect Zohran Mamdani is scheduled to meet with President Trump in the Oval Office on Friday. Are Democrats primarily responsible for Jeffrey Epstein's disturbing past? Mark takes your calls! Mark interviews economist Steve Moore. The inflation rate is slowing, but prices remain high. Is former President Biden the main cause of high inflation in recent years? Why do blue states have the highest prices in the country?

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Now on the Voice of New York. They'll Mark sim
own show on seven tenor Hey, there's a lot going on,
a lot of Epstein's stuff swirling around here. That's pretty interesting.
We'll get to that. We'll get we'll get to Mom Donnie.
Tomorrow he meets with President Trump in the Oval Office.

(00:24):
Both sides acknowledge it was Mom Donnie that asked for
the meeting with President Trump. They'll meet in the Oval Office.
This is going to be very very interesting. Most likely
like you did with Zelensky. Cameras will be allowed in
there to watch this. They'll have a big discussion in
front of the cameras and then probably a private one.

(00:47):
So we'll get to that. We'll get to Jimmy Kimmel
and Trump at war again. Kimmel apparently has learned absolutely
nothing from his being thanked off the air, or he
just got even even cockier over it getting back on
the air. But he made up a whole bunch of
crap last night and just spewed it out on television. Now,

(01:11):
the one guy that's got no Epstein problem is Donald Trump,
because in two thousand and four he found out about
Epstein and the young girls threw him the hell out
of mar A Lago, banned him from the club, and
never spoke to him again. Everybody knows this. There were
witnesses to all of this. If you read the Epstein texts,
emails that have all come out, he acknowledges he hasn't

(01:34):
he hasn't spoken to Trump in a million years. Trump
said it was two thousand and four the last time
he spoke to him, and then cut him off, broke
up with him, got rid of him, never spoke to
him again. So for twenty one years Trump has had
nothing to do with Epstein. But during those twenty one years,
Democrats got themselves all tangled up with Epstein. They're very,

(01:57):
very very close to Epstein. Larry's has already had his
whole public life canceled as a result of his very
close relationship with Epstein. He got this crazy congresswoman who's
all tangled up with Epstein. But you could so if
these files come out, and looks like they will, and
it could be as soon as tomorrow night stuff starts
coming out, you're going to have a Democrats with a

(02:20):
huge problem. So Jimmy Kimmel goes on the air last
night and starts claiming that Donald Trump is terrified of
Hurricane Epstein that's coming to wipe him out. It was
an absolutely crazy thing to say. No, if you're a
Kimmel viewer, you're probably not that bright, so you're actually

(02:41):
believing all of this crazy nonsense that kim Old is
talking about. So there's Kimmel saying, Hurricane Epstein is going
to take down Donald Trump, It's going to wipe him out. Well,
the one thing you can see in all these Epstein files,
you know, his estate has already released all the texts,
not all of them, but a lot of the texts
and emails that they have, and there's one thing you

(03:01):
can see in those texts that there's no Donald Trump
for twenty one years. But there's a lot of Democrats.
He got this crazy congresswoman Plasket, who was so close
to Epstein that during congressional hearings where she was one
of the people on the committee that was going to
do the questioning, she sent Epstein a special video link

(03:26):
so that he alone could see the hearings live and
then text her things to say, coach her on what
to ask, and as the witnesses were talking before it
was going to come to her for questions. Epstein would
send her info and then she would be texting back, well,
what should I do with this guy? What should I
ask this guy? And it looks ridiculous. What is this congresswoman?

(03:49):
This is recently just before he just before he died.
What is she doing so close to Epstein texting back
and forth? This is after Epstein was convicted, This is
after Epstein was in prison. This was after Epstein is
a registered sex offender. Now this crazy Jamie Raskin, he's
that really left wing kook is defending Plasket, saying she

(04:12):
did nothing wrong.

Speaker 2 (04:13):
They want to arrain her on some charges based on
a newspaper article that she did something lawful, however ill advised.
It may have been she took a phone call from
one of her constituents.

Speaker 1 (04:28):
That's how they explained it. A constituent happened to call me.
First of all, it wasn't a phone call. She had
sent him a live link, a link so he could
watch the hearing live. It wasn't on television, special link
for him. And then she was texting back and forth
with them all during the hearings. So she's on CNN
last night with Wolf Blitzer and two CNN anchors. They're

(04:50):
gonna grill her about this, but it's totally corrupt CNN.
She's a Democrat, so they let her spew this ridiculous
explanation and they just nod like oppelheads whatever she says,
no matter how silly it is the excuse, They're just
nodding and nodding. Can you I menage if there's a
Republican I think they just nod. Listen to Plasket explain
why she was texting back and forth with Epstein.

Speaker 3 (05:12):
Epstein had what property in the Virgin Islands?

Speaker 4 (05:15):
Right?

Speaker 5 (05:15):
Yes?

Speaker 6 (05:15):
What was your relationship with Epstein?

Speaker 4 (05:17):
So, Jeffrey Epstein was a constituent. He was a resident
of the Virgin Islands, lived there, I guess more than
half of the year because he was registered there. I
had received donations from him. After the last investigation came out,
which was after this texting. I gave any donations that

(05:37):
I previously received from them to women's organizations and did
not have any contact with him. But like many constituents,
individuals get your phone number, they text you about issues,
they speak with you. I have spoken with him about
issues that are relevant, things that are going on in
the Virgin Islands and elsewhere around the country.

Speaker 1 (05:57):
Now again, these are two CNN idiots. It's Wolf Blitzer
and the woman, and they're just nodding. Uh huh. If
that were Republican, they would be all over her. But
they're just nodding. They don't say, wait a minute, what
other constituents have your phone number? Tell us some other

(06:18):
constituents that can text you live during hearings and give
you questions to ask. It's absolutely ridiculous. You have representative,
you have a congressman. Can you text them during the hearings?
Do they text you back? So the whole thing is ridiculous.
These Democrats are going to have a real problem. It's
going to come out that they're all tangled up with Epstein,

(06:39):
not just the Clintons, but all these people you didn't
know about. Hakim Jeffries is going to have an Epstein problem.
In fact, from now on, let's call him Hakim Jeffries Epstein.
Hakim Jeffries Epstein, he was apparently looking for. Epstein was
a big Democratic donator, donator, He's like ninety two percent
of his donations went to Democrats. Now he was in

(07:00):
the middle of New York City where it's mostly Democratic politicians,
but there's plenty of Republicans around, and they never went
near Epstein. He was a guy just right in checks
left and right. That Epstein was a good looking guy
and he I was gonna say charming, It wasn't that charming.
He just looked good, he dressed well, but he didn't

(07:21):
have that much personality. He just had a massive checkbook
and he just threw money at everybody, anybody and everybody.
He donated tons of money to your charity or campaign,
whatever you needed. So Democrats were all over this guy,
and one of them was Hakim Jeffries. His team going
to Epstein over and over asking for donations. Here's the

(07:42):
committee chairman comer on that.

Speaker 7 (07:45):
Haquem Jeffries campaign was soliciting donations from Epstein. They called
Haquem Jeffries the Baroque of Brooklyn and that Hakem Jeffries
could have a private meeting with Epstein if Epstein wanted,
but they really wanted his full financial support.

Speaker 1 (08:05):
Yeah, so the Hakeem Jeffreys team is begging Jeffrey Epstein
for donations, and they said, we'll take you to a
private dinner, you can meet him alone. You can have
private time. This is how Loja Hakeem Jeffries was back then.
Epstein never took him up, sent a check, but he
no interest in sitting down with him. But they all
have this problem, Chuck Schumer, Chuck Schumer's got a lot

(08:26):
of Epstein donations. How is he going to explain this?

Speaker 3 (08:29):
This is not an invitation for Donald Trump to pick
and choose his version of the truth. This bill is
a command for the president to be fully transparent, to
come fully clean, and to provide full honesty to the
American people, even if he doesn't want to.

Speaker 1 (08:46):
The Democrats have tried to respond to this. One of
them is that crazy Jasmine Crockett. So she put out
a big blockbuster bombshell that you know what, Lee he
Zelden took money from Jeffrey Epstein, the wonderful EPA chairman,
Lee Zelden from Long Island, Nice Lee Zelden, He took

(09:10):
money from Jeffrey Epstein. Jasmine Crockett released the news. Well,
turns out he did, but it wasn't that Jeffrey Epstein.
It was a doctor, Jeffrey Epstein who lives on Long Island.
You know, you never stop to think about this. It's
kind of a common name around here, Jeffrey Epstein. And
if you google it, there's four hundred Jeffrey Epstein's on

(09:31):
Long Island. So a guy named Jeffrey Epstein, doctor Jeffrey Epstein,
had sent a donation to Lee Zelden. But it wasn't
that Jeffrey Epstein you're thinking about. Hey, you know, I
just realized these are other Jeffrey Epstein's. Hey, they must
have a real problem with this name. So Jasmine Crockett,
this imbecile. He's on CNN. She said it was Jeffrey

(09:54):
Epstein that gave the donation, and it was not the
same one. It was a different one. Now listen to
her double talk her way out of this stupid thing
she made. She won't admit she made a mistake. She
just words salads it.

Speaker 8 (10:07):
You talked about Republicans taking money from a Jeffrey Epstein.
Here's what you said, who.

Speaker 9 (10:17):
Also took money from somebody named Jeffrey Epstein. As I
had my team digg in very quickly, met Romney, the NRCC,
Lee Zelden, George bush Win, Red McCain.

Speaker 1 (10:32):
Yes, she's getting this all wrong, totally wrong, totally wrong.

Speaker 8 (10:37):
You mentioned Lezelden there, he's now a cabinet secretary. He
responded and said it was actually a doctor, Jeffrey Epstein,
who's a doctor that doesn't have any relation to the
convicted sex truncker. I'm fortunate for that doctor, but that
is to do it into a prior campaign of his.
Do you want to correct the.

Speaker 10 (10:51):
Record on the people that I never said that it
was that Jeffrey Epstein, so that people understand when you
make a donation, your picture is not there to spring
this on us in real time. I wanted the Republicans
to think about what could potentially happen because I knew
that they didn't even try to go through the FEC.
So my team what they did is they googled, And
that is specifically why I said a Jeffrey Epstein. Unlike Republicans,

(11:14):
I at least don't go out and just tell lies
because it was not the same one. That's fine, But
when Lee Zelden had something to say, so she.

Speaker 1 (11:23):
Goes on and on and on trying to claim she
didn't lie. And that's the dumbest excuse I've ever heard.
I didn't say it was the Jeffrey Epstein. I said
it was a Jeffrey Epstein. Well, it turns out none
of that's true. She's just said it's Jeffrey Epstein. So
they're going to have a huge problem when this comes out.
A lot of Democrats are going to be in big,
big trouble. But the point of this was Jimmy Kimmel
lying again to the audience, just out and out lying

(11:44):
to the audience that Hurricane Epstein Trump is bracing. It's
going to be the worst thing in the world. Trump
putting out all kinds of statements. Why does ABC News
keep fake news Jimmy Kimmel on the air? No talent,
poor ratings, It's a very good question to ask. Why
do TV syndicates put up with it? It's a very

(12:04):
good question. If the guy has no ratings, if he's
in the last place in very few viewers, and he's
lying all the time, why would you keep it on
the air? Why would you do it? It doesn't make
much sense. So, and if you're Kimmel, why would you
Is he lying, just out and out lying, or is
he that stupid that he actually believes this stuff? You

(12:26):
know a lot of these people believe this stuff. You
just keep saying over and over again, Trump Epstein, Trump Epstein,
Trump EPST, and they start to believe that there was
a connection between Trump and Epstein. They actually convinced themselves
of this. There's another thing going on right now about
there's all these fake polls being put out. You know,
they can really rig these public polls. They oversample democrats,

(12:47):
or they use the wrong demographics, or they don't use
likely voters, they use adults, which means you can pick
anybody you want, like you go to a protest rally,
do the survey there. But all these public holes are
coming out. Trump underwater in big trouble on the economy,
thirty eight percent. They still support him. That's it. And

(13:08):
if you read the stories are printing about these poles
inflation raging. Here's another one, inflation out of control. Inflation's
two point five percent. That's pretty good. Under Biden was
five percent, and one point it hit nine percent. There
was not a word about inflation. He's cut inflation in
half in just the first year that he took office,

(13:31):
second year eleven down even more. But they'll just keep
doing this stuff and printing these fake poles and printing
these outrageous headlines, and eventually people start to think there's
a huge inflation crisis that's out of control. Not the
case at all. So tomorrow Mabdani goes to the White
House to meet with President Trump. Now we'll see who's

(13:51):
on the couch with Trump. Will jd vanceby there? Will
he jump in a little bit of an attack dog
like he was with Zelenski? You know, sometimes Trump uses
him to do that good cop bad cop stuff. Who
will Mam Donnie bring with him? The one thing about Trump,
when he invites you to a meeting or invite you
to White House, a lot of times he'll say, you know,
you'll get these invitations. It'll say come to lunch, come

(14:13):
to the White House meetings, and bring whoever you want.
So I'm sure Mam Donnie got one of those. So
we'll see who goes with him. It'll be interesting to
see who he wants to be with him in the
Trump meeting. Trump has said, actually, where's the announcement here?
Even when he announced the whole thing on truth social
this is how he wrote it. Communist Mayor of New

(14:35):
York City zoron quame, Mam Donni has asked for a meeting.
We have agreed the meeting will take place Friday, November
twenty first details to follow, but he calls him communist
mayor of New York. He has said about him though,
he said the guy's got good political skills. He said

(14:55):
he's slick. He's a good talker. Now a couple of
inch and things are happening, you know, mom, Donnie is
starting to backtrack a lot. He's going to keep Jessica
Tish as the police commissioner. That's a good sign. And
this is not getting a lot of attention, but he's
quietly backtracking on a lot of stuff. Yesterday he did

(15:15):
say the NYPD should respond to domestic violence incidents. You know,
this is the one where he wanted the social workers.
So apparently this is part of the agreement with Jessica Tish.
He's now saying police should respond to domestic violence incidents
and he's kind of counting people. Well, that has not
been part of the proposal we put forward over there,

(15:37):
so he's backtracking on that now. Apparently in the meeting
with Tish, what did happen was he started to agree
on things with her. You know, we'll let the police
do what the police do. My crazy stuff about the
social workers and all that will do that separately in
another place, and he's going to create a Department of
Community Safety, so all his socialist, crazy left wing kookie

(15:58):
nonsense social workers handling, he'll do it in that department
and leave the NYPD alone. So that's good news. He
is backtracking a little. And you know, I've always been
saying maybe he's I mean, we think he's a con man.
Maybe he's been counting the left, you know, this whole
socialism stuff, because people are starting to notice he's begging

(16:19):
for money. He's got a transition, a team, a transition committee,
and you can donate to a transition. But he's raised
a million dollars for you know, a local New York
City transition. That's about all you need. But he's running
more ads all over social media everywhere, begging for more money.
This is after he's raised a million, which is more

(16:39):
than he's ever going to need. He's still begging for money,
telling supporters, you know, we got to please donate, we
need more. What happened to everything's going to be free?
So apparently this is ridiculous, out of control money begging
might be a sign of things to come. Maybe he's
just in there to get rich and prosper and who knows,

(17:01):
who knows what this guy's really up to. Hey, by
the way, his free bus is nonsense. If you look
at New York City buses as they are driving around,
when they open the doors, you know they have that
sign with the letter. You know, they can put up
whatever they wanted to say. Usually it says this bus
headed to one hundred and eighty nine. Most of these
buses now have to put up on that sign fair required.

(17:24):
Apparently these idiotic left wing democrats think it's already free,
so on the buses they have to put up this
sign fair required, Fair required. Hey, we'll take some calls.
Next eight hundred three two one zero seven ten is
the number eight hundred three to two one zero seven
ten in Mark on Demand by setting a preset for

(17:44):
his podcast on the iHeartRadio app. Now back to Mark
Simone on wor Hey, let's take some calls. Let's go
to uh Jacob in Queen's Jacob. How you doing?

Speaker 6 (17:58):
Hey?

Speaker 1 (17:58):
Good money A good.

Speaker 11 (18:01):
Every time I moved in New York City, every apartment
I got, I got like you do five and ten
voter stuff for the people who used to live there.
This year they made it change, so they put a
barcode out. So it used to be if let's say
someone wants to vote on someone else's name, when it
used to be the paper mass that you would come
there and they would they would look up your name

(18:21):
in a book. You know, you have to memorize the
name now as a barcode, So they send out before election,
they actually send up a booklet with a barcode, and
you come there and they scan it and write away
the name and the address all populated. So you have
now a situation where we have millions of these booklets
being madiled to have before elections, and the people don't
even live there, and anybody can just go with all

(18:43):
these bookloats and vote. You don't even need to memorize
the name or anything.

Speaker 1 (18:46):
And oh yeah, no, we have the world's sloppiest devoting
system here in New York City deliberately for a lot
of reasons. It allows for a lot of shenanigans to
go on. Let's go to Mike and Saint James, Mike,
how you doing good?

Speaker 5 (18:59):
Walk? When they want to terminate a late nick comedian host,
don't they have to worry about paying him full length
of his contract.

Speaker 1 (19:10):
Yeah, but the Kimmel's contract is just about up. They
did this with Colbert. His contract still goes till May,
so you got to pay off the last year. But
they don't mind doing that. You can pay him off.
But if he's causing you problems, if he's costing you
trouble with the FCC, if he's causing you trouble with sponsors, boycotts,
it's worth paying the guy off. Look at Megan Kelly.

(19:31):
How many times has she been paid off to leave early?
I think she's made a total of thirty millions getting
paid off by various networks to leave. It's a good
business to be and getting paid to leave. Let's go
to Mike in Florida. Mike, how you doing. Good morning, Mark, Yes, Mike.

Speaker 5 (19:48):
Isn't it a little bit ironic that Jeffrey Epstein was
a resident of the Virgin Islands.

Speaker 1 (19:55):
Well, he had an island that he bought somewhere. And
you've got to be really a bad guy if you
need to do it on an island, a private island.

Speaker 5 (20:03):
So, you know, I wanted to say that I have
a friend and I hear pundit say that, you know,
why does Trump have to fight these personal battles, you know,
with Jimmy Kimmel or Mont whoever. And it's like, because
he's the only one who does it, his party doesn't
defend him the way the Democrat parties would defend any Democrat,
don't be Jasmine Crockett, you know the one, you know,

(20:25):
the you know. So it's like he's a it's a
one man war against his vast machine.

Speaker 1 (20:32):
Uh yeah, now that's a good question. People ask all
the time, why does he just let go? They would
like every president to act like George W. Bush, who
was the same problem. The media went after him, fake news,
they hated him, and he was always very dignified and
formal and didn't respond. Yeah wait did to get him exactly.
So thanks for calling. You know, I don't know, most

(20:54):
of us can't behave like Trump. You just wouldn't do
it. It's too much. Who could who has the energy or
the thick skin to bead be like him all day night.
But that's the way he is. And again, it was
George W. Bush. And every comedian's attacking you, and they're
calling you dumb, and they're calling you a war criminal.
You know, you just act dignified, very polite, very formal.

(21:14):
But that's not Trump. Trump believes punchback. Every time anybody
comes out, you just punch whatever they do, punch back
twice as hard do it constantly seems like a lot
of effort and energy. And it seems to us, like
you said, who could behave like that? But but look
at Trump. The guy goes into real estate, becomes the
most famous real estate developer in the world. He's a

(21:37):
total amateur. When he goes into television, two minutes later,
he's got the number one show in television. He's a
total amateur. Goes into politics. How many times you've seen
an amateur try to run for governor, try to run
for mayor, or try to run for congress, total amateur.
They don't usually get anywhere. Trump total amateur. First time
he runs, he's President of the United States. Just like

(21:59):
that gets real. So and look at go back to
last year. The guy's indicted in four different cities, he's
convicted of six thousand felonies, he's shot at and despite
all that, he wins again he's president. So that whole
Trump method, that hold Trump behavior, Obviously it works. Obviously

(22:20):
you got to have the talent for it and the
thick skin for it. But he's made it work. Hey,
when we come back, the great economist Steve Moore will
give us the truth about the affordability crisis and all that,
and about Mom Donnie and his way of trying to
fix the affordability crisis, how bad it is. We'll get
to that next on seven to ten wor the Marks

(22:42):
Them Own show.

Speaker 3 (22:44):
On seventen wor Well.

Speaker 1 (22:47):
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(23:08):
for the hotline. Go to Unleash Prosperity dot com. Unleash
Prosperity dot com. Steve Moore, how you doing.

Speaker 5 (23:16):
Hey, Mark, I'm doing well.

Speaker 6 (23:17):
We got a pretty good job this morning. I was
surprised I was on with Maria this morning. I'm Maria
Rodoroma and at Jobs Report, came out and I draw
just dropped. It was a lot better than expected. We
had over one hundred thousand jobs and that was about
twice as many as we're expected, and so that was good.
And the wages were up for workers, which is really important.

(23:39):
And so you know, all the doom and gloom, I
don't know where it's coming from.

Speaker 1 (23:43):
Well, I don't know what you were seeing. I was
watching Morning Joe, and apparently we have inflation raging. It's
out of control.

Speaker 6 (23:49):
And you know, we have a report that we just
came out with at Unleashed Prosperity, and it's in our
hotline today. The eighty seven and a half percent of
the inflation that people are complaining about, eighty seven and
a half percent of it happened. I guess under what president?

Speaker 1 (24:07):
That's too easy a question, Biden.

Speaker 6 (24:12):
I mean, so if people are angry about prices, as
they should be, it's because inflation went through the roof
on Biden was president. And Trump is right about this.
He said, look, I inherited this mess. I didn't create it.
We didn't have any inflation under Trump's first term. Then
Biden comes in, and you know, prices go up by
twenty two percent, and now people are still angry about it,
and they're playing Trump and you know, Trump said he's

(24:33):
brought the inflation rate down. Now, prices are not falling,
but the inflation rate is falling a lot.

Speaker 1 (24:38):
Uh, explain the difference. Prices are not down, but the inflation.

Speaker 6 (24:42):
Yeah, so that people get confused about that. So the
inflation rate is, how is the rate of increase in prices? Yeah,
and the you know, the price level is you know,
the level prices, So you know, to bring prices down,
you'd actually have to have you know, negative inflation, you
have disinflation. We haven't had displace under Trump, but we
have had a much lower rate of inquiry. So the

(25:03):
average rate of inflation under Biden was about five percent
per year, and so far under Trump it's this this term,
it's been about a little under three percent. So that's
a big difference. And by the way, and Trump's first term,
the average inflation rate was two percent.

Speaker 1 (25:19):
Yeah. Now you always said, I guess I would ask
you this all the time. If you guys, if Trump
takes office, how long before we can fix it? You said,
at least a year, year and a half. There's nothing
the president could have done in the first six months.
It would have been any different, we would have brought
it down anymore.

Speaker 6 (25:36):
Is there. Well, you know, first of all, we don't
want we don't want negative inflation. We want we don't
want you know, prices falling because that's actually bad for
the economy. You want. What you want in a good
economy is stable prices, so that you know, the dollar
can buy today, what it can buy tomorrow, it could
buy yesterday. And so what Trump is giving us is
stable somewhat stable prices, not exactly.

Speaker 1 (25:57):
And Biden, let it.

Speaker 6 (25:59):
Biden had the biggest inflation since Jimmy curR.

Speaker 1 (26:03):
Wow. Yeah, hit nine percent at one point.

Speaker 5 (26:07):
Yep.

Speaker 1 (26:08):
When the yellow screen about tariffs, if you put tariffs
on these companies, it's going to cause a big pricing.
Isn't raising corporate tax basically the same thing as a tariff,
Wouldn't they have the same exact effect.

Speaker 6 (26:20):
Good point, you know. So it is true that if
you have a tariff on something like coffee beans, like
we did on Brazilian and Colombian coffee beans, that the
price of coffee may go up a little bit, and
it did. But by the same logic, if you reduce
the taxes on companies. That reduces inflation. So most of
what Biden trumps John, you look at the tax cut,

(26:43):
you look at the the reduction and the regulatory cost
on businesses. If you look at what's happening with it,
if you looked at the gas, well, you live there
in New York, so you're probably paying you know, three
to four dollars a gallon there, but most parts of
the country are now paying about two to eighty nine
a gallon. And it was its highest five dollars a
gallon under Trump, I mean under Biden.

Speaker 1 (27:04):
So if you mount Donnie, you said, I'm gonna do
something about this affordability crisis. I'm going to increase taxes
on the corporations. That has got to be the worst
logic I've ever heard. Wouldn't that just get the.

Speaker 6 (27:13):
Opposite exactly, because if you tax the companies, that's why
terrorists raise inflation, because because you put you know, those
costs all get passed on to the consumer. And by
that same logic, if you're going to have a higher
business tax and more regulation and all these new costs
on businesses, guess who's going to pay for that? The
consumer will?

Speaker 1 (27:32):
Yeah, Yeah, You've studied this. If there is an affordability
crisis and you look around the country where it is,
it's located in the blue cities, isn't it.

Speaker 6 (27:41):
Yeah, it's amazing, Yes, exactly right. So if you look
at the five states with the highest cost of living
where inflation is most out of control, it's New York,
New Jersey, Connecticut, California, and Massachusetts, Oh, and Illinois. So
there's six states with and then if you look at
the southern states, there's almost you know, those have much
much lower, you know, costs. So if you want a

(28:03):
lower cost of living and you're worried about affordability, you
might want to move to a red state. Hey look,
I'm not I know most people won't. But my point is,
what you don't want to do what you wanted. If
you're like out there advocating for policies, you don't want
to advocate the policies the Blue states have put into
effect because those are the kind of policies that raise prices.

(28:26):
When you raise taxes, you raise prices.

Speaker 1 (28:29):
Yeah, so a guy like Mam Donnie seems to be
a very smart guy, seems to be a very bright guy.
So how could he not know that every time you
try these tactics, the socialist stuff, it always always always backfires.
Does he just not know that or does he know
it and doesn't care?

Speaker 6 (28:49):
You know, it is the strangest thing what you're describing
is that some otherwise smart people. I was in California
this week Without Laugher, the godfather of the Laugher Curve,
and we were in southern California. We were talking about,
you know, the laughter curve. And then you know, when
you tax to get too high, you reduce the output

(29:10):
of goods and services, You people move away, et cetera,
et cetera. And we had all the evidence and people
were looking at us like, well, then why do we
have taxes so high here in California. I'm like, yeah,
now you're getting it. You know. So the idea that
you're going to raise tax on rich people and give
all this other stuff away for free in New York,
that's the Montominie, you know formula that is going to

(29:32):
lead to you know, as you know, it'll lead to
a lot of wealthy people leaving the city, and it
will lead to higher costs and post on everyone else.
So affordability is going to go down. It won't go up,
and by the way, things will be free. It's just
that when you go to the grocery store there won't
be a lot of it'll be like the old Soviet Union.
You know, bred is really cheap. Here's just we.

Speaker 1 (29:51):
Don't have any Steve Moore here. See, we're gonna stump
you with this question. Can you name anything, any business,
any enterprise where it got cheaper when the government and
took it over, like exactly.

Speaker 6 (30:03):
You know that this is this is a great point
you're making, Mark, which is that if you look at
the things that are really exploding costs, two of the
biggest items are tuition for college and high schools and
uh and of course healthcare. You know, healthcare is exploding.
We just got our statement. We're going to see a
thirteen percent increase in our premiums next year. Now, gee, wiz,
who runs the who runs the schools, and who runs

(30:25):
the healthcare system? Oh yeah, the government does.

Speaker 1 (30:29):
So if you're trying to get the price down, you
have to get your costs down in the supermarket business.
Who would you trust more are John Katzmatidis or the
government to run it at a good point?

Speaker 6 (30:39):
Yeah, exactly, And it's it is interesting because you know,
when you have competition, you know, prices fall, that's you know,
that's the beauty of the free market system. But when
government takes over an industry, you notice they create amopoly.
You know, I resont we hate monopolies except wait, we
don't like we like monopolies when the government runs them.
But these healthcare costs, I mean they're unbelievable. I mean

(31:00):
people I've had friends call me say the next year
there that they're premius to go twenty percent. And I'm
confused by that mark because it just seems like yesterday
Barack Obama sold us on the Affordable Care Act.

Speaker 1 (31:11):
Yeah, it's affordable. You need a subsidy, but it's affordable. Well,
great stuff. Everybody gets Steve Moore's book, The Trump Economic Miracle.
You'll learn a lot from that book. And this hotline
you put out every day. How long does that take?
That is the best briefing every day. Yeah.

Speaker 6 (31:28):
And by the way, you know we were talking about
inflation that you know that doesn't go up in price
at all because it's free.

Speaker 1 (31:33):
Yeah. Absolutely, See, that's how you run something. It's free.

Speaker 6 (31:38):
Some good things in life for free. Just go to
unleash prosperity dot Com and sign up and we will
send it to your for free at five mornings a week.

Speaker 1 (31:44):
You get it every morning in your email. You'll sound
so smart. Unleash prosperity dot Com. Steve Moore, thanks for
being with us.

Speaker 6 (31:52):
Thanks Mark, I have a great day.

Speaker 1 (31:53):
Take care, Take care. Hey, don't forget Buck and Clay.
What a great show they do every day at noon
and three o'clock. You got the most listen to radio
show in America. Sean Hannity got Jesse Kelly at six
and we love this new Jimmy Faylish. People love it.
It's on every night nine to midnight, and he'll be
with us in the next hour. We'll talk to Jimmy
Fayla coming up on seven to ten WR.

Speaker 6 (32:16):
More O Mark, mister New York on seven ten WR. Wow.

Speaker 1 (32:24):
He realized Thanksgiving is one week from today, one week
from today, and I've already had the four Thanksgiving dinners,
big buffet here yesterday, thanks full Thanksgiving dinner from what's
that place, Golden Corral, great place, Elvis Durant. I'm walking
by his studio this morning. There's another big Thanksgiving Turkey

(32:46):
Cranberry for everything, that's the second one. Actually, I had
a third one yesterday. Anyway, we'll be back after the news.
Jimmy Fayla will be with us in the next hour.
We got a lot to talk about. Oh, we'll get
to the Cheney funeral and more coming up on seven
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