December 11, 2025 • 8 mins
With a new Federal Reserve Chair set to take over next year after Jerome Powell, Moore discusses the state of the economy. He argues that the economy is currently strong and questions Democratic claims about an affordability crisis.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Now more Marks alone. I'm seventeen w alarm. Well, it's
turned to one of the great economists in the world,
Steve Moore, and he runs the committee to Unleash Prosperity
dot com. And every day they put out the best
daily news and analysis briefing. You can get it free.
It'll come right to your email. Just go to Unleash
Prosperity dot com. Hey, make sure you get his book,
(00:22):
The Trump Economic Miracle. What a book it is. And
he's with us now, Steve Moore, how you doing.
Speaker 2 (00:28):
Hey, Mark, I'm doing really well. I think the economy
is doing really well. I think America's doing really well.
And and uh, you know, I love Trump's speech the
other night about how well the economy is doing, because
it is it happens to be doing really well in
terms of wages, in terms of job opportunities, in terms
of four when k plans. It's all looking very positive
to me.
Speaker 1 (00:48):
Oh, I don't know. I got the New York Times
right here says we're in the worst affordability crisis ever
in history.
Speaker 2 (00:54):
Though.
Speaker 1 (00:54):
Uh but the their focus groups came up with this
word affordability. They've what do you do about the fat
they're just drilling this into people's heads and people are
falling for it.
Speaker 2 (01:04):
Well they are, I mean, and by the way, there's
a difference between an increase in prices and an increase
in inflation. So what's happened is, you know, prices are
still rising by about two and a half percent, but
that's down from like five and six percent increases and
prices under Biden. In fact, as you know, the ninety
percent of the inflation that people are complaining about and
(01:27):
the higher prices happened.
Speaker 1 (01:28):
Under who Joe Biden?
Speaker 2 (01:30):
Yeah, exactly, So why is it that people are so
obsessed with hump on this now? Look, the things that
are really rising in prices right now are beef prices,
and you know, people are angry when they buy a
stake at the grocery store. The other thing that's going
through the roof, by the way, is healthcare costs. We
just got our healthcare statement for twenty six and our
(01:52):
insurance premiums are you ready to are going up twelve percent,
So you know what is going on. I thought fifteen
years ago we passed the Affordable Care Act. Well, yeah,
not so affordable to me.
Speaker 1 (02:05):
But you've been writing about this in the hotline. Yeah,
the whole thing needs to be totally busted up. And
when the government gets involved, nothing works right. But like
a simple test, a cat scan or something, it's one
hundred dollars, but the insurance rate is twelve hundred dollars
or eight thousand. Yeah, you got to stop all this.
Speaker 2 (02:22):
How do we do you need? Well, one thing. One
thing we need is healthcare price transparency, so everyone knows.
You know, have you noticed we as Americans we always
ask you know, you've taken you know, you've got a book,
an airline flight, you ask how much it's gonna cost.
You go to the grocery store, how much is that
ice cream gonna cost? Everything that we buy a restaurant,
everything we asked, see how much is it gonna cost?
(02:42):
Except for one thing, healthcare. You know, when you go
to the doctor at the hospital. We never asked what
things cost. And that's one of the reasons prices are
completely out of control. I mean, my old friend Phil
Graham used to say, if we paid for groceries the
way we pay for healthcare, he said, I'd eat steak
and lobster and drink champagne every night.
Speaker 1 (03:00):
Yeah, so there's no way to do this though it
get government completely out of healthcare, is there? It can't happen.
Speaker 2 (03:08):
Well, you know we could do if we had. You
could not pick a dumber way to pay for healthcare
right now than what we have right now. And incidentally,
under the Democratic plan that you can have an income
over half a million dollars and the Democrats want you
to get subsidies from the taxpayer for millionaires. Practically, I mean,
it does not make any sense. By the way, there
(03:29):
are twenty one states that have refused Trump's demand to
tell us make sure that the people are signing up
for medicaid and all these Obmamacare subsidies. Are going to
make sure that they actually have legitimate Social Security numbers
and they're eligible to the programs. Twenty one states, including
New York and New Jersey, have refused to comply.
Speaker 1 (03:45):
Yeah, now they'll be Democrats yelling, well, what's the Republican
plan on healthcare? What is the Republican plan?
Speaker 2 (03:52):
I have two words answer ready, Yeah, free enterprise, free markets. Well,
let's pay healthcare now. People should have catastrophic insurance for
you know, if you have you know, if you get
cancer god forbid, or have a terrible accident and you
have hundreds of thousands of dollars of medical expenses. You
want to make sure you're covered for that. But why
do we need you know, healthcare coverage, re active visits
(04:14):
and all these other things that are routine expenditures. So
that would make that would put the patient back in
the equation. And incidentally, you know I have an item
in the hotline today, mark that the in Canada now
they have seven, eight, nine, ten, twelve, fifteen, in some
cases twenty six weeks delay and waiting lines to get
(04:35):
any kind of medical procedure. But free. Oh do you
remember that? You remember the famous scene in the movie
Beetle Juice where the beetle Juice is in the waiting
room and they're serving number number three and he looks
at his number and he's like nine hundred thousand. That's
that help. There's just some folks. It's free if you
(04:55):
can get it.
Speaker 1 (04:56):
Yeah. Hey, so the FED, you're slight yesterday. This is
the most useless FED ever. Will this get fixed? Well,
we got a new FED chairman, will Ark. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (05:06):
Well it's gonna be one. Yeah, yep, we're going to
get one of the two. Kevin's either Kevin Hassett or
Kevin worsh You know both of them. I know both
of them. I think they with both be excellent, excellent choices.
They would restore the value of the dollar. They would
make sure that interest rates are as low as they
possibly can be. And so I bite both of those picks.
(05:28):
And as long as we get rid of Jerome Powell,
I'll be very happy.
Speaker 1 (05:32):
Will he'll be replaced as chairman? Will he step down
from the Fed like he's supposed to?
Speaker 2 (05:37):
I hope. So he's the guy who let prices go
up by twenty percent over the last four years. He's
a total failure. He's got to go. And we got
to get somebody in there who defends the dollar, restores
us to price stability, and gets the inflation rate back
down to two percent or below.
Speaker 1 (05:52):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (05:52):
I got a run, Mark, But I hope you have
a great, great day. And my god, I got.
Speaker 1 (05:56):
To do some Christmas shopping, all right, get me something nice?
You want my size?
Speaker 2 (06:01):
Yeah, you're right, exactly, Yeah, take care.
Speaker 1 (06:06):
Well, at least he showed up. He had to run,
but at least he showed up. That's pretty good. So
it's enough Christmas? How much long ago Christmas. What's the
day today? Let me see, it's eleventh. That's thirteen more
days of this two weeks. I can't take it. I
don't feel good. Yeah, it's overeating. It's these Christmas parties.
(06:30):
You just eat like crazy.
Speaker 2 (06:31):
You know.
Speaker 1 (06:32):
The good thing is today I'm walking around the whole
sixth floor here. There's no buffets anywhere, thank god. Today.
Yesterday there were these buffets in front of Elvis Durant's
studio that was the most incredible buffet Italian this and
and then down there by Jim Kurr studio buffet of
these incredible cakes and pastries. This went on for miles.
(06:55):
That's in the morning. Then in the afternoon, who's that
buffet yesterday? At lunch here that big another Italian? Yeah,
whatever that was called. And then from that I leave,
and then I go to all these Christmas parties. You know,
they've got a lot of afternoon Christmas parties. That's a
big thing now, afternoon Christmas parties. That're one of those.
And then night the last Christmas party was Pea Pack,
(07:16):
which is one of the most prestigious, finest private banks
in America. You hear them on w O R Pa
pack Private Doug Kennedy the chairman. What a great party
that was. But the food was amazing. Now I can't
even move today, So it's got to stop. It's got
(07:38):
to stop these Christmas parties and then next week it
gets any work much worse. There's like three four of
them a day. It's too much. It's too much. You've
got to come up with something besides food and parties.
Hold the Christmas party at a gym, no food, just
gatorade or something like that. It's tough to deal with.
Hey ya, coming up, You got to Buck and Clay
(07:58):
at noon today with a great show. Then you got
the most listened to radio show in America. Sean Hannity
at three, Jesse Kelly at six. Hey, Jimmy Fayla does
a great show here every night at nine o'clock. In fact,
he'll be with us. He'll be our guest here in
the next hour on seven ten Woor
Now more Marks alone. I'm seventeen w alarm. Well, it's
turned to one of the great economists in the world,
Steve Moore, and he runs the committee to Unleash Prosperity
dot com. And every day they put out the best
daily news and analysis briefing. You can get it free.
It'll come right to your email. Just go to Unleash
Prosperity dot com. Hey, make sure you get his book,
(00:22):
The Trump Economic Miracle. What a book it is. And
he's with us now, Steve Moore, how you doing.
Speaker 2 (00:28):
Hey, Mark, I'm doing really well. I think the economy
is doing really well. I think America's doing really well.
And and uh, you know, I love Trump's speech the
other night about how well the economy is doing, because
it is it happens to be doing really well in
terms of wages, in terms of job opportunities, in terms
of four when k plans. It's all looking very positive
to me.
Speaker 1 (00:48):
Oh, I don't know. I got the New York Times
right here says we're in the worst affordability crisis ever
in history.
Speaker 2 (00:54):
Though.
Speaker 1 (00:54):
Uh but the their focus groups came up with this
word affordability. They've what do you do about the fat
they're just drilling this into people's heads and people are
falling for it.
Speaker 2 (01:04):
Well they are, I mean, and by the way, there's
a difference between an increase in prices and an increase
in inflation. So what's happened is, you know, prices are
still rising by about two and a half percent, but
that's down from like five and six percent increases and
prices under Biden. In fact, as you know, the ninety
percent of the inflation that people are complaining about and
(01:27):
the higher prices happened.
Speaker 1 (01:28):
Under who Joe Biden?
Speaker 2 (01:30):
Yeah, exactly, So why is it that people are so
obsessed with hump on this now? Look, the things that
are really rising in prices right now are beef prices,
and you know, people are angry when they buy a
stake at the grocery store. The other thing that's going
through the roof, by the way, is healthcare costs. We
just got our healthcare statement for twenty six and our
(01:52):
insurance premiums are you ready to are going up twelve percent,
So you know what is going on. I thought fifteen
years ago we passed the Affordable Care Act. Well, yeah,
not so affordable to me.
Speaker 1 (02:05):
But you've been writing about this in the hotline. Yeah,
the whole thing needs to be totally busted up. And
when the government gets involved, nothing works right. But like
a simple test, a cat scan or something, it's one
hundred dollars, but the insurance rate is twelve hundred dollars
or eight thousand. Yeah, you got to stop all this.
Speaker 2 (02:22):
How do we do you need? Well, one thing. One
thing we need is healthcare price transparency, so everyone knows.
You know, have you noticed we as Americans we always
ask you know, you've taken you know, you've got a book,
an airline flight, you ask how much it's gonna cost.
You go to the grocery store, how much is that
ice cream gonna cost? Everything that we buy a restaurant,
everything we asked, see how much is it gonna cost?
(02:42):
Except for one thing, healthcare. You know, when you go
to the doctor at the hospital. We never asked what
things cost. And that's one of the reasons prices are
completely out of control. I mean, my old friend Phil
Graham used to say, if we paid for groceries the
way we pay for healthcare, he said, I'd eat steak
and lobster and drink champagne every night.
Speaker 1 (03:00):
Yeah, so there's no way to do this though it
get government completely out of healthcare, is there? It can't happen.
Speaker 2 (03:08):
Well, you know we could do if we had. You
could not pick a dumber way to pay for healthcare
right now than what we have right now. And incidentally,
under the Democratic plan that you can have an income
over half a million dollars and the Democrats want you
to get subsidies from the taxpayer for millionaires. Practically, I mean,
it does not make any sense. By the way, there
(03:29):
are twenty one states that have refused Trump's demand to
tell us make sure that the people are signing up
for medicaid and all these Obmamacare subsidies. Are going to
make sure that they actually have legitimate Social Security numbers
and they're eligible to the programs. Twenty one states, including
New York and New Jersey, have refused to comply.
Speaker 1 (03:45):
Yeah, now they'll be Democrats yelling, well, what's the Republican
plan on healthcare? What is the Republican plan?
Speaker 2 (03:52):
I have two words answer ready, Yeah, free enterprise, free markets. Well,
let's pay healthcare now. People should have catastrophic insurance for
you know, if you have you know, if you get
cancer god forbid, or have a terrible accident and you
have hundreds of thousands of dollars of medical expenses. You
want to make sure you're covered for that. But why
do we need you know, healthcare coverage, re active visits
(04:14):
and all these other things that are routine expenditures. So
that would make that would put the patient back in
the equation. And incidentally, you know I have an item
in the hotline today, mark that the in Canada now
they have seven, eight, nine, ten, twelve, fifteen, in some
cases twenty six weeks delay and waiting lines to get
(04:35):
any kind of medical procedure. But free. Oh do you
remember that? You remember the famous scene in the movie
Beetle Juice where the beetle Juice is in the waiting
room and they're serving number number three and he looks
at his number and he's like nine hundred thousand. That's
that help. There's just some folks. It's free if you
(04:55):
can get it.
Speaker 1 (04:56):
Yeah. Hey, so the FED, you're slight yesterday. This is
the most useless FED ever. Will this get fixed? Well,
we got a new FED chairman, will Ark. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (05:06):
Well it's gonna be one. Yeah, yep, we're going to
get one of the two. Kevin's either Kevin Hassett or
Kevin worsh You know both of them. I know both
of them. I think they with both be excellent, excellent choices.
They would restore the value of the dollar. They would
make sure that interest rates are as low as they
possibly can be. And so I bite both of those picks.
(05:28):
And as long as we get rid of Jerome Powell,
I'll be very happy.
Speaker 1 (05:32):
Will he'll be replaced as chairman? Will he step down
from the Fed like he's supposed to?
Speaker 2 (05:37):
I hope. So he's the guy who let prices go
up by twenty percent over the last four years. He's
a total failure. He's got to go. And we got
to get somebody in there who defends the dollar, restores
us to price stability, and gets the inflation rate back
down to two percent or below.
Speaker 1 (05:52):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (05:52):
I got a run, Mark, But I hope you have
a great, great day. And my god, I got.
Speaker 1 (05:56):
To do some Christmas shopping, all right, get me something nice?
You want my size?
Speaker 2 (06:01):
Yeah, you're right, exactly, Yeah, take care.
Speaker 1 (06:06):
Well, at least he showed up. He had to run,
but at least he showed up. That's pretty good. So
it's enough Christmas? How much long ago Christmas. What's the
day today? Let me see, it's eleventh. That's thirteen more
days of this two weeks. I can't take it. I
don't feel good. Yeah, it's overeating. It's these Christmas parties.
(06:30):
You just eat like crazy.
Speaker 2 (06:31):
You know.
Speaker 1 (06:32):
The good thing is today I'm walking around the whole
sixth floor here. There's no buffets anywhere, thank god. Today.
Yesterday there were these buffets in front of Elvis Durant's
studio that was the most incredible buffet Italian this and
and then down there by Jim Kurr studio buffet of
these incredible cakes and pastries. This went on for miles.
(06:55):
That's in the morning. Then in the afternoon, who's that
buffet yesterday? At lunch here that big another Italian? Yeah,
whatever that was called. And then from that I leave,
and then I go to all these Christmas parties. You know,
they've got a lot of afternoon Christmas parties. That's a
big thing now, afternoon Christmas parties. That're one of those.
And then night the last Christmas party was Pea Pack,
(07:16):
which is one of the most prestigious, finest private banks
in America. You hear them on w O R Pa
pack Private Doug Kennedy the chairman. What a great party
that was. But the food was amazing. Now I can't
even move today, So it's got to stop. It's got
(07:38):
to stop these Christmas parties and then next week it
gets any work much worse. There's like three four of
them a day. It's too much. It's too much. You've
got to come up with something besides food and parties.
Hold the Christmas party at a gym, no food, just
gatorade or something like that. It's tough to deal with.
Hey ya, coming up, You got to Buck and Clay
(07:58):
at noon today with a great show. Then you got
the most listened to radio show in America. Sean Hannity
at three, Jesse Kelly at six. Hey, Jimmy Fayla does
a great show here every night at nine o'clock. In fact,
he'll be with us. He'll be our guest here in
the next hour on seven ten Woor
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