October 13, 2025 • 9 mins
Mark interviews filmmaker Dinesh D’Souza about his new film “Dragon’s Prophesy.”
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Well, it's been quite a day in Israel. Now you
know Densh de Suza, the great author, scholar, a filmmaker.
His latest film, beautiful film, powerful film documentary. It's called
The Dragons Prophecy. It's out. We want you to see it.
It's the most incredible look back at October seventh, with
footage never before seen and the whole history to ancient times.
(00:23):
It's a powerful film, The Dragon's Prophecy. Densh de Suzza,
how you doing.
Speaker 2 (00:31):
Pleasure?
Speaker 3 (00:32):
And yes, of course what an exhilarating We profiled one
of the families I hated him, a named Leshai Miran
outside her little kibbutz, interviewed a woman nahal Oz community
and she described and harrowing in bill what happened to
(00:52):
them on October seventh. And of course she and the
two little girls have been the care dad for two
years straight. So to see some picture and without the
warning of their family reunion, I mean I was quite overwhelmed,
my wife. It's very personal in that sense.
Speaker 1 (01:09):
Yeah, Denish, can we call you right back? I think
your phone is cracking up. Let's let's call him right back,
because that's not him, that's the phone. Yeah, it's a
very very powerful film. October seventh. He's got footage that
is so graphic of what happened and so real, and
it's an amazing film. The Dragon's Prophecy. You can buy it,
it's on Amazon, it's there's showings in theaters. But it's
(01:34):
a great film and it's so appropriate today. Hostages released,
they're back with their families. The President in Egypt right
now meeting with all these world leaders who are partners
in this deal. And this film is a look like
at October seventh like you've never seen before. An interviews.
Oh we got them back, deniesh Desusa. How are you?
(01:56):
Let's see if it's a.
Speaker 2 (01:57):
Hey Mark, I'm doing great. Oh you hear me? Better?
Speaker 1 (02:00):
Uch much better? Now? Where where can people see the film?
Speaker 2 (02:04):
So the film is in streaming and DVD and go
to the website which is The Dragonsploral, The Dragons prophecyfilm
dot Com. You can stream it, you can order your DVDs.
It ties into all the stuff going on now. So
it's a wonderfully timely film, and it also is although
(02:24):
it takes you to some dark places, it ends on
a note of exhilaration, spiritual renewal, so it seems particularly
fitting for this moment.
Speaker 1 (02:33):
Yeah, it's the ultimate film on what happened on October sinth.
The footage is quite amazing that you've gotten a hold of.
And how long did this whole thing take to do?
Speaker 2 (02:42):
Well, we started it about a year ago, and remarkably
the film is even more timely than when we were
shooting it. I show footage that's never before seen of
October seventh. Interestingly, the government of Israel opted to hold
back on that footage, I think out of respect for
the families, but I thought it's important for people to
(03:04):
be on the scene and get some real experiential sense
of what that was like. And then the film goes
to the widest possible themes, which is it tries to
interpret the events not just from a political but also
from a biblical and a prophetic perspective.
Speaker 1 (03:21):
Yeah, today obviously historic, a wonderful day piece. But how
much faith do you have in this holding up this
whole piece deal over the years.
Speaker 2 (03:33):
Well, I think if you believe the Bible, this issue
is not going to be permanently resolved until maybe the
end of time. I've seen so many other conflicts settled
and this one continues to fester. Now, I do want
to credit Trump. I mean, over my adult lifetime, I've
seen the Nixon Plan, the Carter Plan, the Clinton Plan,
(03:55):
and none of them have really made measurable progress. But
this really is a momentous step forward. So I won't
say I'm optimistic, but I am hopeful that we can
build on what we see today.
Speaker 1 (04:09):
Yeah, the film is called The Dragon's Prophecy. You've got
to see this film and you deal with how far
back into ancient times this all goes. You know, presidents
have tried giving land. In this deal, it's about giving
an economy and booming economy to going back to the beginning,
what is really the root of this conflict.
Speaker 2 (04:31):
Well, the biblical perspective basically says that Israel has always
been fighting for its life, and in fact, there is
an eerie similarity between this war that we've been witnessing
for two years and the ancient war between the Israelites
and their longtime enemy called the Philistines now Philistine Palestine.
(04:56):
That is actually the same word. It's the same name.
We're not just talking about the same name. We're talking
about very similar tactics. The ancient Philistines would capture Israelites
would drag them literally to Gaza. Gaza's mentioned in the Bible,
and then in the Bible it says that when Samson,
the hero who represents the strength of Israel, is captured,
(05:20):
he's blinded in somewhat the same way Israel was blinded
in October seventh. He was paraded in front of the
people of Gaza quote for their entertainment. And similarly with
the captives of October seventh, they were stripped to the waist,
they were dragged to Gaza, they were paraded while people
were shouting a lahuak bar. So all of this is
(05:41):
a way of saying that the events that we're seeing
in front of our eyes are not just ordinary events.
They have deep biblical resonance, and so we have a
wide angle lens in looking at all of this in
this film.
Speaker 1 (05:57):
It's a powerful film. It's called The Dragons to See
and what's the website.
Speaker 2 (06:02):
The website is The Dragons prophecyfilm dot com. It's available
in streaming and in DVD now. It's also available on
the platform called Rumble where you can kind of pay
per view at just purchase and click and watch. So
great film to watch right now, because it's very much
in tune with the spirit of renewal. We've been hearing
a lot about that since Charlie Kirk's death. I think
(06:24):
that idea is reinforced by what happened today, and so
this is a film that will leave you exhilarated and motivated.
Speaker 1 (06:32):
Yeah, and you've got great interviews in there with Nyahu
and Mike Kukaby. Talk about Mike Kukaby's role in all
this well.
Speaker 2 (06:40):
Huckaby is a very interesting character because he is not
only the ambassador and a politician, but he's also a pastor.
And one of the big issues that we're dealing with
now in critiques of Israel and Jews from the right
is this question of whether or not somehow the New
Testament and Jesus makes the Old Testament obsolete. I mean
(07:03):
that idea is in fact, on the face of it, preposterous, right,
because from the Old Testament we get creation, we get
the idea of fall in human nature, we get the
Ten Commandments, we get the Hebrew Profits. So the idea
that this can all be kind of kicked out from
under us, I think is an affront to Christianity over
two thousand years, but yet we're hearing it from influential
(07:23):
voices on the right, and so it's sort of drawn
me somewhat reluctantly into a public confrontation with the characters
because I think it's bad for Maga, it's bad for Trump,
but it's also ultimately bad for Christianity.
Speaker 1 (07:36):
Yeah, well, it's a great film. Denish Desius has made
a lot of great films through the years, but this
one of documentary called The Dragons Prophecy no more interesting
examination of October seventh, great interviews. Good give us the
website again.
Speaker 2 (07:53):
The website is the Dragons plural The Dragon's Prophecy Film.
Don't forget the film The Dragon's Prophecyfilm dot Com. Check
it out. You really won't regret it. It's a little
bit of a departure for me because most of my
other films have been, in one way or another, just
about the meaning of America looked at from a political
and historical perspective. But this film engages the world. It
(08:16):
engages the human soul, the great struggle between good and evil,
you know, God and the devil. The dragon actually is
a reference to Satan himself from the Book of revelation.
So this is a film that takes on a much
bigger topic than I've dealt with before, and it uses
a more spiritual lens than I have in my earlier work.
Speaker 1 (08:34):
Yeah, hey, you can buy you can buy the DVD
on Amazon, and well you can also see it un
Rumbled the Dragon's Prophecies on Rumble if you want to
pay for review it there. Well, great work, deniesh Desusa,
thanks for being.
Speaker 2 (08:47):
With us, really appreciate it.
Speaker 1 (08:49):
Thank you. Take care. It's a powerful film, and what
a day it's been. Hey, don't forget Buck and Clay
do an excellent show. You'll hear them right after the
news at noon. They're coming up next. And then you
got the most listened to radio show in America, Sean Hannity,
Jesse Kelly six o'clock. You got Jimmy Fayla. What a
great show every night nine to midnight, all here on
(09:10):
seven ten WR
Well, it's been quite a day in Israel. Now you
know Densh de Suza, the great author, scholar, a filmmaker.
His latest film, beautiful film, powerful film documentary. It's called
The Dragons Prophecy. It's out. We want you to see it.
It's the most incredible look back at October seventh, with
footage never before seen and the whole history to ancient times.
(00:23):
It's a powerful film, The Dragon's Prophecy. Densh de Suzza,
how you doing.
Speaker 2 (00:31):
Pleasure?
Speaker 3 (00:32):
And yes, of course what an exhilarating We profiled one
of the families I hated him, a named Leshai Miran
outside her little kibbutz, interviewed a woman nahal Oz community
and she described and harrowing in bill what happened to
(00:52):
them on October seventh. And of course she and the
two little girls have been the care dad for two
years straight. So to see some picture and without the
warning of their family reunion, I mean I was quite overwhelmed,
my wife. It's very personal in that sense.
Speaker 1 (01:09):
Yeah, Denish, can we call you right back? I think
your phone is cracking up. Let's let's call him right back,
because that's not him, that's the phone. Yeah, it's a
very very powerful film. October seventh. He's got footage that
is so graphic of what happened and so real, and
it's an amazing film. The Dragon's Prophecy. You can buy it,
it's on Amazon, it's there's showings in theaters. But it's
(01:34):
a great film and it's so appropriate today. Hostages released,
they're back with their families. The President in Egypt right
now meeting with all these world leaders who are partners
in this deal. And this film is a look like
at October seventh like you've never seen before. An interviews.
Oh we got them back, deniesh Desusa. How are you?
(01:56):
Let's see if it's a.
Speaker 2 (01:57):
Hey Mark, I'm doing great. Oh you hear me? Better?
Speaker 1 (02:00):
Uch much better? Now? Where where can people see the film?
Speaker 2 (02:04):
So the film is in streaming and DVD and go
to the website which is The Dragonsploral, The Dragons prophecyfilm
dot Com. You can stream it, you can order your DVDs.
It ties into all the stuff going on now. So
it's a wonderfully timely film, and it also is although
(02:24):
it takes you to some dark places, it ends on
a note of exhilaration, spiritual renewal, so it seems particularly
fitting for this moment.
Speaker 1 (02:33):
Yeah, it's the ultimate film on what happened on October sinth.
The footage is quite amazing that you've gotten a hold of.
And how long did this whole thing take to do?
Speaker 2 (02:42):
Well, we started it about a year ago, and remarkably
the film is even more timely than when we were
shooting it. I show footage that's never before seen of
October seventh. Interestingly, the government of Israel opted to hold
back on that footage, I think out of respect for
the families, but I thought it's important for people to
(03:04):
be on the scene and get some real experiential sense
of what that was like. And then the film goes
to the widest possible themes, which is it tries to
interpret the events not just from a political but also
from a biblical and a prophetic perspective.
Speaker 1 (03:21):
Yeah, today obviously historic, a wonderful day piece. But how
much faith do you have in this holding up this
whole piece deal over the years.
Speaker 2 (03:33):
Well, I think if you believe the Bible, this issue
is not going to be permanently resolved until maybe the
end of time. I've seen so many other conflicts settled
and this one continues to fester. Now, I do want
to credit Trump. I mean, over my adult lifetime, I've
seen the Nixon Plan, the Carter Plan, the Clinton Plan,
(03:55):
and none of them have really made measurable progress. But
this really is a momentous step forward. So I won't
say I'm optimistic, but I am hopeful that we can
build on what we see today.
Speaker 1 (04:09):
Yeah, the film is called The Dragon's Prophecy. You've got
to see this film and you deal with how far
back into ancient times this all goes. You know, presidents
have tried giving land. In this deal, it's about giving
an economy and booming economy to going back to the beginning,
what is really the root of this conflict.
Speaker 2 (04:31):
Well, the biblical perspective basically says that Israel has always
been fighting for its life, and in fact, there is
an eerie similarity between this war that we've been witnessing
for two years and the ancient war between the Israelites
and their longtime enemy called the Philistines now Philistine Palestine.
(04:56):
That is actually the same word. It's the same name.
We're not just talking about the same name. We're talking
about very similar tactics. The ancient Philistines would capture Israelites
would drag them literally to Gaza. Gaza's mentioned in the Bible,
and then in the Bible it says that when Samson,
the hero who represents the strength of Israel, is captured,
(05:20):
he's blinded in somewhat the same way Israel was blinded
in October seventh. He was paraded in front of the
people of Gaza quote for their entertainment. And similarly with
the captives of October seventh, they were stripped to the waist,
they were dragged to Gaza, they were paraded while people
were shouting a lahuak bar. So all of this is
(05:41):
a way of saying that the events that we're seeing
in front of our eyes are not just ordinary events.
They have deep biblical resonance, and so we have a
wide angle lens in looking at all of this in
this film.
Speaker 1 (05:57):
It's a powerful film. It's called The Dragons to See
and what's the website.
Speaker 2 (06:02):
The website is The Dragons prophecyfilm dot com. It's available
in streaming and in DVD now. It's also available on
the platform called Rumble where you can kind of pay
per view at just purchase and click and watch. So
great film to watch right now, because it's very much
in tune with the spirit of renewal. We've been hearing
a lot about that since Charlie Kirk's death. I think
(06:24):
that idea is reinforced by what happened today, and so
this is a film that will leave you exhilarated and motivated.
Speaker 1 (06:32):
Yeah, and you've got great interviews in there with Nyahu
and Mike Kukaby. Talk about Mike Kukaby's role in all
this well.
Speaker 2 (06:40):
Huckaby is a very interesting character because he is not
only the ambassador and a politician, but he's also a pastor.
And one of the big issues that we're dealing with
now in critiques of Israel and Jews from the right
is this question of whether or not somehow the New
Testament and Jesus makes the Old Testament obsolete. I mean
(07:03):
that idea is in fact, on the face of it, preposterous, right,
because from the Old Testament we get creation, we get
the idea of fall in human nature, we get the
Ten Commandments, we get the Hebrew Profits. So the idea
that this can all be kind of kicked out from
under us, I think is an affront to Christianity over
two thousand years, but yet we're hearing it from influential
(07:23):
voices on the right, and so it's sort of drawn
me somewhat reluctantly into a public confrontation with the characters
because I think it's bad for Maga, it's bad for Trump,
but it's also ultimately bad for Christianity.
Speaker 1 (07:36):
Yeah, well, it's a great film. Denish Desius has made
a lot of great films through the years, but this
one of documentary called The Dragons Prophecy no more interesting
examination of October seventh, great interviews. Good give us the
website again.
Speaker 2 (07:53):
The website is the Dragons plural The Dragon's Prophecy Film.
Don't forget the film The Dragon's Prophecyfilm dot Com. Check
it out. You really won't regret it. It's a little
bit of a departure for me because most of my
other films have been, in one way or another, just
about the meaning of America looked at from a political
and historical perspective. But this film engages the world. It
(08:16):
engages the human soul, the great struggle between good and evil,
you know, God and the devil. The dragon actually is
a reference to Satan himself from the Book of revelation.
So this is a film that takes on a much
bigger topic than I've dealt with before, and it uses
a more spiritual lens than I have in my earlier work.
Speaker 1 (08:34):
Yeah, hey, you can buy you can buy the DVD
on Amazon, and well you can also see it un
Rumbled the Dragon's Prophecies on Rumble if you want to
pay for review it there. Well, great work, deniesh Desusa,
thanks for being.
Speaker 2 (08:47):
With us, really appreciate it.
Speaker 1 (08:49):
Thank you. Take care. It's a powerful film, and what
a day it's been. Hey, don't forget Buck and Clay
do an excellent show. You'll hear them right after the
news at noon. They're coming up next. And then you
got the most listened to radio show in America, Sean Hannity,
Jesse Kelly six o'clock. You got Jimmy Fayla. What a
great show every night nine to midnight, all here on
(09:10):
seven ten WR
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