October 6, 2025 • 9 mins
Michael believes that Hamas' strategy is to continue to negotiate with Israel until politicians in power get tired of them, pushing back on a deal to release the hostages. If Curtis Sliwa drops out of the mayoral race in NYC, will that give Zohran Mamdani more votes over candidate Andrew Cuomo
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Mister New York. He's on the game, the Marc Simone
Show on SEVR. Well. Michael Goodwin, the finest columnist in America.
You can read them every Sunday and every Wednesday in
the New York Post. All his columns are up on
the New York Post website. Michael Goodwin, How you doing.
Speaker 2 (00:19):
Good morning, Mark? Thank you?
Speaker 1 (00:20):
Hey. What was that famous saying the Palestinians never miss
an opportunity, to miss an opportunity?
Speaker 2 (00:27):
Ah? Yes, one of my favorite lines, and I think
we could say with confidence it seems to be applying
here in the current situation.
Speaker 1 (00:38):
So I don't know. You've disagreement, it's I think it's
the best you could get right now. And congratulations of
President Trump for pushing it. But we've done this way,
haven't we been down this road before and it never
holds up.
Speaker 2 (00:54):
Well, Look, I think the even line that you mentioned
is certainly applies. The Palestinians and the Hamas in particular,
want to be the skunk at the garden party here
when you have so many endorsers of this deal, enthusiastic
(01:15):
endorsers Turkey, Saudi Arabia, Jordan, Egypt, even cutter you would
think that would that would create the momentum. And certainly
President Trump and Steve Whitcoffin Gared Koshner, who did the negotiations,
thought that they had pretty much a water tight deal
(01:36):
twenty points and beginning with the hostage release and the
broad agreement. I think Mark was with a great achievement,
achievement in and of itself, and HAMAS sent what I
believe was a false signal on Friday that it would
(01:57):
it would move on the hostage release. It was ready
to do that, and then it said but and the
butt seems to go on endlessly. It is calling for
renegotiating what looks to me like the heart of the deal. Otherwise. Now,
I think a hostage release would be a great thing
(02:17):
in and of itself if there were an exchange. But
if that doesn't work, why would any of the other
pieces work, which ultimately get to disarmament of HAMAS and
civil administrators and no role for HAMAS and the governance.
So if they can't even complete the first step, there's
(02:40):
no hope of them completing the other steps. So I
think that's why this thing has been bogged down, and
you get yet a new round of negotiations. I think
that the Hamas strategy is just to negotiate this till
everybody gets tired of it and then walk away from it.
I don't think they want peace. I don't think they
(03:01):
want a settlement because it's the end of their power.
Speaker 1 (03:04):
Yeah, you know, even I guess the end result of
all this thing would be a two state solution. Didn't
we just try a two state solution for twenty years
and look how it ended?
Speaker 2 (03:13):
Yeah, I mean, Gaza was a two state solution, right.
It was a Palestinian state, and it became a terrorist state,
and that's what it remains. And to the of course,
great detriment and deaths of many civilians there who either
went along or had no choice but to go along
(03:35):
with the Hamas rule. And so we're coming up tomorrow, right,
is the two year anniversary of October seventh. The horrors
of that day and all of what we have witnessed
sins can be traced back to that decision by Hamas
to invade, to take the hostages, to slaughter innocent civilians.
(03:57):
Mostly of the twelve hundred Israeli they killed, most of
them were civilians. And so this is the fruits of
that poison tree, and Hamas doesn't seem ready to let go.
Speaker 1 (04:10):
Yeah, well, we'll see what happens. It's gonna be a
interesting week with that. Hey, let me ask you about
the mayoral race this. You know, it looks like people
are starting to think when Adams dropped out, half those
votes might go to Cuomo and half might go to Mamdani.
And there's this myth that if Curtis drops out, suddenly
Cuomo will get all those votes. Most of these Curtis
(04:31):
voters are not going to Cuomo. They'll pretty much just
stay home. What do you think?
Speaker 2 (04:37):
Look, I think that Cuomo probably benefited more from the
Atoms withdrawal, or will I should say when the votes
are actually tangulating. I mean Adams was running at about
ten percent in the polls. Half of that, of course,
would be five points for Cuomo. I suspect it'll be
(04:59):
more than that because it won't just be the Adams voters.
But I think the net effect of Adams dropping out
is it makes Cuomo look like has an easier path
to the election. Now, obviously you're right that if Fleawah
(05:20):
stays in and he's there's no reason to think he's
going to change his mind. Yet I still think it's
going to end up with Mam Donnie winning. There's no
way that either one of them can top Mom Donnie,
who I think alone, because I think he's probably got
a floor of somewhere around forty percent. And so if
(05:43):
two people are going to divide the remaining sixty percent,
neither one of them is going to get there the
way it looks now.
Speaker 1 (05:50):
Yeah. Now the other thing is, you know de Blasio,
people like that get elected because you've got eighteen turnout
and just the left turns out. If you could go
back to the good old days of seventy five eighty
percent turnout, don't you think that could make a difference.
Speaker 2 (06:06):
Well, yes, a turnout could could swamp the you know
all these predictions. I mean, it is worth noting marked
that when Rudy Giuliani and David Dinkins had their rematch
in nineteen ninety three, where Giuliani won, there were on
the order of one point eight to one point nine
(06:29):
million votes cast. In more recent and more recent elections,
there have been one point one million votes. Now, think
about that the city has grown dramatically since nineteen ninety
three by probably close to a million people, and yet
the voting totals are still far less. And so if
(06:51):
you were to get a big turnout that the perils
of a big turnout are that there's enthusiasm, more enthusiasm
for Mom Donnie than there is anyone else, and so
a big turnout could could actually mean more mam Donnie voters.
So I think, absent a two person race, Mam Donni
(07:14):
looks like inevitable from this point of view.
Speaker 1 (07:18):
Well, we'll see what happens. The only thing that could
change the course of things might be the debate October sixteenth.
Speaker 2 (07:25):
That's true. And look, I think Cuomo has done a
better job of He's been more active and jumping on
these things with Mom Donnie. Some of the things Mamdani.
You know that the post covered today of mam Donni
with the Ugandan leader who hates gays, you have, you know,
with the whole issue of globalizing into fada. So there's
(07:51):
just there's just a lot. There are a lot of
ghosts or in mam Donni's closets, and I think they
could really hurt him, and I think Cuomo is doing
a better job of bringing them out and seizing on
it and highlighting it. So it really as a warning
to mom Donnie voters, Look, this is what you're buying.
This is this is the guy you're supporting. Really you
(08:13):
want this guy? Uh, particularly the young people on the left.
I mean you want to you want to get you
want to be in bed with some guy who who
who hangs around the people who hate and persecute gays?
Is that Is that what the New Revolution is about?
I don't think so. So. I think the question is
can Mam Donnie survive what's probably going to be a
(08:36):
NonStop attack for the next month.
Speaker 1 (08:38):
Yeah. Well, Michael Goodwin, great stuff. You ever go read
his column. It's in Yesterday's New York Post. It's up
on the website about Hamas and Israel. It's a great
column and you can read them every Sunday every Wednesday
in the New York Post. Michael Goodwin, thanks for being.
Speaker 2 (08:52):
With us, my place for Mark. Thank you.
Speaker 1 (08:55):
Take care. Hey. Coming up in the next hour, Oh,
Scott Shannon will be with us. In the next hour.
We'll get to Taylor Swift, we'll get the Mark Sanchez story,
we'll go over that, and we'll get to the mayoral
race again. We'll get to New Jersey. We'll get to
Donald Trump and the Navy speech boy that drove the
left nuts yesterday. We'll get to that. Coming up. We'll
(09:18):
get to Portland and Chicago and more. Just ahead on
seven to ten WR
Mister New York. He's on the game, the Marc Simone
Show on SEVR. Well. Michael Goodwin, the finest columnist in America.
You can read them every Sunday and every Wednesday in
the New York Post. All his columns are up on
the New York Post website. Michael Goodwin, How you doing.
Speaker 2 (00:19):
Good morning, Mark? Thank you?
Speaker 1 (00:20):
Hey. What was that famous saying the Palestinians never miss
an opportunity, to miss an opportunity?
Speaker 2 (00:27):
Ah? Yes, one of my favorite lines, and I think
we could say with confidence it seems to be applying
here in the current situation.
Speaker 1 (00:38):
So I don't know. You've disagreement, it's I think it's
the best you could get right now. And congratulations of
President Trump for pushing it. But we've done this way,
haven't we been down this road before and it never
holds up.
Speaker 2 (00:54):
Well, Look, I think the even line that you mentioned
is certainly applies. The Palestinians and the Hamas in particular,
want to be the skunk at the garden party here
when you have so many endorsers of this deal, enthusiastic
(01:15):
endorsers Turkey, Saudi Arabia, Jordan, Egypt, even cutter you would
think that would that would create the momentum. And certainly
President Trump and Steve Whitcoffin Gared Koshner, who did the negotiations,
thought that they had pretty much a water tight deal
(01:36):
twenty points and beginning with the hostage release and the
broad agreement. I think Mark was with a great achievement,
achievement in and of itself, and HAMAS sent what I
believe was a false signal on Friday that it would
(01:57):
it would move on the hostage release. It was ready
to do that, and then it said but and the
butt seems to go on endlessly. It is calling for
renegotiating what looks to me like the heart of the deal. Otherwise. Now,
I think a hostage release would be a great thing
(02:17):
in and of itself if there were an exchange. But
if that doesn't work, why would any of the other
pieces work, which ultimately get to disarmament of HAMAS and
civil administrators and no role for HAMAS and the governance.
So if they can't even complete the first step, there's
(02:40):
no hope of them completing the other steps. So I
think that's why this thing has been bogged down, and
you get yet a new round of negotiations. I think
that the Hamas strategy is just to negotiate this till
everybody gets tired of it and then walk away from it.
I don't think they want peace. I don't think they
(03:01):
want a settlement because it's the end of their power.
Speaker 1 (03:04):
Yeah, you know, even I guess the end result of
all this thing would be a two state solution. Didn't
we just try a two state solution for twenty years
and look how it ended?
Speaker 2 (03:13):
Yeah, I mean, Gaza was a two state solution, right.
It was a Palestinian state, and it became a terrorist state,
and that's what it remains. And to the of course,
great detriment and deaths of many civilians there who either
went along or had no choice but to go along
(03:35):
with the Hamas rule. And so we're coming up tomorrow, right,
is the two year anniversary of October seventh. The horrors
of that day and all of what we have witnessed
sins can be traced back to that decision by Hamas
to invade, to take the hostages, to slaughter innocent civilians.
(03:57):
Mostly of the twelve hundred Israeli they killed, most of
them were civilians. And so this is the fruits of
that poison tree, and Hamas doesn't seem ready to let go.
Speaker 1 (04:10):
Yeah, well, we'll see what happens. It's gonna be a
interesting week with that. Hey, let me ask you about
the mayoral race this. You know, it looks like people
are starting to think when Adams dropped out, half those
votes might go to Cuomo and half might go to Mamdani.
And there's this myth that if Curtis drops out, suddenly
Cuomo will get all those votes. Most of these Curtis
(04:31):
voters are not going to Cuomo. They'll pretty much just
stay home. What do you think?
Speaker 2 (04:37):
Look, I think that Cuomo probably benefited more from the
Atoms withdrawal, or will I should say when the votes
are actually tangulating. I mean Adams was running at about
ten percent in the polls. Half of that, of course,
would be five points for Cuomo. I suspect it'll be
(04:59):
more than that because it won't just be the Adams voters.
But I think the net effect of Adams dropping out
is it makes Cuomo look like has an easier path
to the election. Now, obviously you're right that if Fleawah
(05:20):
stays in and he's there's no reason to think he's
going to change his mind. Yet I still think it's
going to end up with Mam Donnie winning. There's no
way that either one of them can top Mom Donnie,
who I think alone, because I think he's probably got
a floor of somewhere around forty percent. And so if
(05:43):
two people are going to divide the remaining sixty percent,
neither one of them is going to get there the
way it looks now.
Speaker 1 (05:50):
Yeah. Now the other thing is, you know de Blasio,
people like that get elected because you've got eighteen turnout
and just the left turns out. If you could go
back to the good old days of seventy five eighty
percent turnout, don't you think that could make a difference.
Speaker 2 (06:06):
Well, yes, a turnout could could swamp the you know
all these predictions. I mean, it is worth noting marked
that when Rudy Giuliani and David Dinkins had their rematch
in nineteen ninety three, where Giuliani won, there were on
the order of one point eight to one point nine
(06:29):
million votes cast. In more recent and more recent elections,
there have been one point one million votes. Now, think
about that the city has grown dramatically since nineteen ninety
three by probably close to a million people, and yet
the voting totals are still far less. And so if
(06:51):
you were to get a big turnout that the perils
of a big turnout are that there's enthusiasm, more enthusiasm
for Mom Donnie than there is anyone else, and so
a big turnout could could actually mean more mam Donnie voters.
So I think, absent a two person race, Mam Donni
(07:14):
looks like inevitable from this point of view.
Speaker 1 (07:18):
Well, we'll see what happens. The only thing that could
change the course of things might be the debate October sixteenth.
Speaker 2 (07:25):
That's true. And look, I think Cuomo has done a
better job of He's been more active and jumping on
these things with Mom Donnie. Some of the things Mamdani.
You know that the post covered today of mam Donni
with the Ugandan leader who hates gays, you have, you know,
with the whole issue of globalizing into fada. So there's
(07:51):
just there's just a lot. There are a lot of
ghosts or in mam Donni's closets, and I think they
could really hurt him, and I think Cuomo is doing
a better job of bringing them out and seizing on
it and highlighting it. So it really as a warning
to mom Donnie voters, Look, this is what you're buying.
This is this is the guy you're supporting. Really you
(08:13):
want this guy? Uh, particularly the young people on the left.
I mean you want to you want to get you
want to be in bed with some guy who who
who hangs around the people who hate and persecute gays?
Is that Is that what the New Revolution is about?
I don't think so. So. I think the question is
can Mam Donnie survive what's probably going to be a
(08:36):
NonStop attack for the next month.
Speaker 1 (08:38):
Yeah. Well, Michael Goodwin, great stuff. You ever go read
his column. It's in Yesterday's New York Post. It's up
on the website about Hamas and Israel. It's a great
column and you can read them every Sunday every Wednesday
in the New York Post. Michael Goodwin, thanks for being.
Speaker 2 (08:52):
With us, my place for Mark. Thank you.
Speaker 1 (08:55):
Take care. Hey. Coming up in the next hour, Oh,
Scott Shannon will be with us. In the next hour.
We'll get to Taylor Swift, we'll get the Mark Sanchez story,
we'll go over that, and we'll get to the mayoral
race again. We'll get to New Jersey. We'll get to
Donald Trump and the Navy speech boy that drove the
left nuts yesterday. We'll get to that. Coming up. We'll
(09:18):
get to Portland and Chicago and more. Just ahead on
seven to ten WR
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