December 12, 2025 • 11 mins
John breaks down the latest behind-the-scenes poll numbers, focusing on the 2026 gubernatorial race in NYC. United States Representative Elise Stefanik is currently trailing Nassau County Executive Bruce Blakeman, while Governor Kathy Hochul could face a serious challenge ahead. There are also concerns that President Trump’s approval rating polls may be manipulated against him.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
The Mark Simone Show on WI.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
Well, you know, you see all these public polls, these junkie, cheap,
little flimsy polls. But let's talk to the greatest poster
in the world. I mean, the real polls are behind
the scenes, the ones that candidates use pay a fortune for.
But here's here's the best pollster on earth, John McLaughlin.
His website McLachlan online dot com. But he's been the
(00:26):
pollster for presidents, prime ministers, premiers, senators all over the world.
John McLaughlan, how you doing.
Speaker 1 (00:33):
I'm doing well, because that's a very very nice introduction.
But as well as having survived three presidential campaigns with
President Trump where he made his polster look good, I'll
accept it, all right, He tredit goes to him and
the other the other elected officials work force.
Speaker 2 (00:51):
So well, I just take the polls. We'll get to
him in a moment. Let's start with the governor's race
here in New York next year. Bruce Blakeman a Lee
stephonic to me, they're both very popular. I think Blakeman
would be the better choice because he's what he does
right now. He's a governor. He's the governor of Nassau County.
She's a legislator, he's a governor. But where does it
(01:11):
stand pole wise?
Speaker 1 (01:13):
Well exactly. I mean, well, first of all, there's only
been one poll that was a serious poll that was
put out there, and that was the Cien Pol and
the Siena Pol had a congresswoman, Stephonic losing by twenty
points and had her upside down. She was twenty eight favorable,
thirty six unfavorable. They didn't even put Bruce in it.
(01:34):
So even though you know Kathy Hochel is very beatable,
she's not popular and most people when somebody knew the
congresswoman's losing to her by twenty points. And I worked
for Lee's Eldon last time, at some point we hit
a wall with forty seven percent, but it was close
enough that we gained congressional seats in New York. And
(01:57):
the bad part about this is somebody like Bruce, let
me tell you are the election he had in Nassau
County was defied the national trends where he got re
elected with twelve percent in an eight point Democrat county
because he's cut taxes and he's kept the taxes low.
Plus he hired hundreds of more police and worked with
ice and it's the safest county in America. So Bruce,
(02:22):
like in Nassau County and in our post election surveys,
well the voters gave him a twelve point you know
landslide and a carry through the rest of the ticket.
He brought all these other Republicans in with them, and
the rest of the state they were losing, like fifty
Republican county legislators up state. They were, you know, they
taking losses in Syracuse and other places. And you know,
(02:45):
even like in Stuffict we lost Riverhead. And so there's
there's we need somebody like Bruce who can win among
Hispanic voters, who won among Hispanic votes, he won among
Asian voters, he won among Jewish voters. I mean in
New York, you have to get thirty five percent of
the vote in New York City to win President Trump.
You know got thirty percent. Zeldon got thirty percent. But
(03:07):
the lease is not getting that. And a lease, you
know is the Bayport is if you get if you
can't win the New York suburbs and you can't win
New York enough vote in New York City, you know,
the Adirondacks aren't going to make it up so upstate,
you know, well, the Republicans are fighting for existence upstate
because the other thing Hulkle did was she moved a
(03:29):
lot of the idd year elections, these town supervisors, a
county legislatiers, they moved into the even year behind the
governor's race. So not only will we have trouble trying
to like defeat Laura Gillen in the Democrat in CD
four Nasaux County or Tom Swasby and Nasaux County. Uh,
you might have Republicans like Nicole Malay Takas, Nicololota, my
(03:53):
one of my favorite, Mike Waller an upstate, You're gonna
have a lot of problems trying to get the Congress,
the Republican of Congress re elected. And uh, Bruce changes
the whole makeup of the race. He's running on a
positive record, a positive view. He's definitely a Trump Conservative.
He had we had President Trump out at the Ryder
(04:15):
Cup in Nasviall County during the campaign and it was
it was turned into like a between Bruce and President Trump.
It was like a USA rally. It was like a
Trump campaign rally. And you know, so and President Trump
after he visited his job apoul in National County was
fifty seven percent.
Speaker 2 (04:34):
So Blakely would be the best governor. There's no better choice.
But people say you can't win. A Republican cannot win
in New York City as mayor Republican. And I'm starting
to think we haven't had a Republican governor in twenty.
Speaker 1 (04:46):
Years, have we? And no George for Taki that was
it's I mean, he served three terms, and and Bruce
is a lot like George where you know, he has
that personal appeal. I mean, President Trump says, you know,
Bruce's of central casting. He's very likable and and like that.
Siena pol I cided, I mean, Elise's twenty eight favorable
(05:08):
thirty six unfairbles she's already that negative in New York
State among the voters that.
Speaker 2 (05:12):
Nowhere republican Republican can win New York, right.
Speaker 1 (05:17):
Uh, definitely a Republican could win New York because in
that same poem referring to most voters want somebody new
for governor, and uh, you know, well they want somebody new,
but they're saying, well, lease, isn't it. So let's let's
give Bruce some time to build some support and show
he could potentially beat Kathy Hulkl. So you know that's uh,
(05:40):
you know, we need change in New York. And uh,
definitely right, you're you're familiar with you know, I mean,
and that was with Mayor elect Mundai. Uh, you're going
to need a governor to be a check and balance,
particularly if the legislature gives in on him, like Bruce
has pointed out that Kathy Holk We now wants to
raise the corporate tax in New York from seven percent
(06:03):
to eleven percent. Well, that'll be passed on to consumers.
That won't be good for cost morning. Hey, could and.
Speaker 2 (06:09):
Could you guys start using the word tariffs. I love
to do that. When they talk about raising the corporate tax,
it's a tariff. So Democrats want to now put tariffs
on the corporations in New York. It's the same thing.
Speaker 1 (06:19):
The difference is no tariffs are on you know, that's
on foreign things coming back to the United States. We're
talking about this is domestic. This is your jobs in
New York. The people that you might work for in
New York. If they get if their corporate taxes go
from seven to eleven. Here they go to Texas and
Florida and Tennessee and you know, it's it's not good.
(06:43):
So they you know, we could lose jobs because of them,
and then the prices get passed on and so hey,
we need we need to like Bruce to stop that.
Speaker 2 (06:53):
Yeah, no, definitely, Bruce Blakeman. Hey, I'm watching The Morning
Joe this morning. Apparently Donald Trump has the worst poll
numbers ever. He's dying, He's going to be uh, the lowest.
What's the real truth?
Speaker 1 (07:06):
We had? And it's on our website. The day before Thanksgiving,
we put out a national survey, We put out a
monthly national survey, and President Trump has a fifty job
approval forty six disapprove among likely voters, people that will
show up next November and vote for members of Congress
and Senate. And you know, I think it could be
it could be higher, but we've got we've got to
(07:28):
sell them that the you know, ironically, that the economy
is doing better. Economy and inflation are still the top
issues and Biden is responsible for most of the inflation
he's dealing with right now. But President Trump had a
great night on Tuesday night when he was out in
Pennsylvania talking about the fact that wages are now growing
(07:49):
faster than the rate of inflation. And you know, the
tax cuts, the no tax cuts on tips, on overtime,
on so security, they don't kick in till January. So
when they start kicking in, you know, our friends like
Larry Kudlow, Steve Moore that you know very well, Steve Forbes,
that's when you'll get even better growth in the economy.
(08:09):
And uh so I think that'll that will help us
next year so that we can keep keep the House
and keep the Senate in uh in Washington, and President
Trump will be out on the campaign trail doing what
he did on Tuesday night, talking about the real facts
about how how the economy is in better shape than
I think, as you said, uh, Joe Scarborough or whatever
(08:30):
they said, you know, I mean before they go back
to Connecticut and their dry limbos and stuff like that.
So but we think we need to I mean, President
Trump is going to make it better for working class voters.
And this affordability issues. As Bruce Blakeman showed us in Nasau,
Democrats can't be for affordability when they want to raise
(08:53):
your taxes. I mean, how that's the least affordable thing.
If the four years of biding inflation to pay higher
taxes in every Democrat for Congress or for Senate voted
for the elected Trump tax cuts laps, which would erase
taxes two or three thousand dollars on every American. And
we can't afford that. And pal's not lower and interest
(09:15):
rates fast enough, because morriage rates are still high, credit
card rates are still high. We got to get rid
of him, and we got to look at Trump tax
cuts work, and friends like Larry Cullo a tell us
they gotta have a boom.
Speaker 2 (09:27):
This year, yeah, and next year. Actually, starting January, the
big beautiful bill kicks in. Everybody's going to notice a
big difference in their paychecks starting in January. Well, John McLoughlin,
great stuff. People can go to your website. What can
they see up there? At McLaughlin online dot com.
Speaker 1 (09:44):
McLachlan online dot com. You will find the National survey
that I spoke about, and you'll see that. And then
we actually have a history of surveys on that that
go way back, the ones that had Trump beating Kamala
Harris and beating Joe Biden for that. But the press,
the media didn't say that was gonna happen.
Speaker 2 (10:03):
Yeah, the way, Well everybody go check it out. Well,
thanks to you. But he's the best poster on earth.
He's the real polls, not the fake public, but the
best poster on Earth. And John McLoughlin's website is mclaughlinonline
dot com. Check it out, John McLaughlin, thanks for being
with us. Thank you, take care. He don't forget coming
(10:24):
up at noon. You got Buck Sexton and Clay Travis.
Excellent show. Sean Hannity the most listened to radio show
in America at three, Jesse Kelly at six. You got
Jimmy Fayala nine o'clock every night. It's a very, very
very good show. You got me ten to noon. By
the way, if you're a podcast listener, don't forget. You
can you know, if you can't hear the show ten
(10:45):
to noon, if you can't listen live, you can hear
this show anytime, day or night, whenever you want. Just
get the podcast and don't forget. If you're a podcast
listener on the weekends, there's a bonus segment, so you
get like an extra show. If you're a podcast listener,
you can get the podcasts anywhere wherever you get podcasts,
or just go to seven ten wor dot com
The Mark Simone Show on WI.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
Well, you know, you see all these public polls, these junkie, cheap,
little flimsy polls. But let's talk to the greatest poster
in the world. I mean, the real polls are behind
the scenes, the ones that candidates use pay a fortune for.
But here's here's the best pollster on earth, John McLaughlin.
His website McLachlan online dot com. But he's been the
(00:26):
pollster for presidents, prime ministers, premiers, senators all over the world.
John McLaughlan, how you doing.
Speaker 1 (00:33):
I'm doing well, because that's a very very nice introduction.
But as well as having survived three presidential campaigns with
President Trump where he made his polster look good, I'll
accept it, all right, He tredit goes to him and
the other the other elected officials work force.
Speaker 2 (00:51):
So well, I just take the polls. We'll get to
him in a moment. Let's start with the governor's race
here in New York next year. Bruce Blakeman a Lee
stephonic to me, they're both very popular. I think Blakeman
would be the better choice because he's what he does
right now. He's a governor. He's the governor of Nassau County.
She's a legislator, he's a governor. But where does it
(01:11):
stand pole wise?
Speaker 1 (01:13):
Well exactly. I mean, well, first of all, there's only
been one poll that was a serious poll that was
put out there, and that was the Cien Pol and
the Siena Pol had a congresswoman, Stephonic losing by twenty
points and had her upside down. She was twenty eight favorable,
thirty six unfavorable. They didn't even put Bruce in it.
(01:34):
So even though you know Kathy Hochel is very beatable,
she's not popular and most people when somebody knew the
congresswoman's losing to her by twenty points. And I worked
for Lee's Eldon last time, at some point we hit
a wall with forty seven percent, but it was close
enough that we gained congressional seats in New York. And
(01:57):
the bad part about this is somebody like Bruce, let
me tell you are the election he had in Nassau
County was defied the national trends where he got re
elected with twelve percent in an eight point Democrat county
because he's cut taxes and he's kept the taxes low.
Plus he hired hundreds of more police and worked with
ice and it's the safest county in America. So Bruce,
(02:22):
like in Nassau County and in our post election surveys,
well the voters gave him a twelve point you know
landslide and a carry through the rest of the ticket.
He brought all these other Republicans in with them, and
the rest of the state they were losing, like fifty
Republican county legislators up state. They were, you know, they
taking losses in Syracuse and other places. And you know,
(02:45):
even like in Stuffict we lost Riverhead. And so there's
there's we need somebody like Bruce who can win among
Hispanic voters, who won among Hispanic votes, he won among
Asian voters, he won among Jewish voters. I mean in
New York, you have to get thirty five percent of
the vote in New York City to win President Trump.
You know got thirty percent. Zeldon got thirty percent. But
(03:07):
the lease is not getting that. And a lease, you
know is the Bayport is if you get if you
can't win the New York suburbs and you can't win
New York enough vote in New York City, you know,
the Adirondacks aren't going to make it up so upstate,
you know, well, the Republicans are fighting for existence upstate
because the other thing Hulkle did was she moved a
(03:29):
lot of the idd year elections, these town supervisors, a
county legislatiers, they moved into the even year behind the
governor's race. So not only will we have trouble trying
to like defeat Laura Gillen in the Democrat in CD
four Nasaux County or Tom Swasby and Nasaux County. Uh,
you might have Republicans like Nicole Malay Takas, Nicololota, my
(03:53):
one of my favorite, Mike Waller an upstate, You're gonna
have a lot of problems trying to get the Congress,
the Republican of Congress re elected. And uh, Bruce changes
the whole makeup of the race. He's running on a
positive record, a positive view. He's definitely a Trump Conservative.
He had we had President Trump out at the Ryder
(04:15):
Cup in Nasviall County during the campaign and it was
it was turned into like a between Bruce and President Trump.
It was like a USA rally. It was like a
Trump campaign rally. And you know, so and President Trump
after he visited his job apoul in National County was
fifty seven percent.
Speaker 2 (04:34):
So Blakely would be the best governor. There's no better choice.
But people say you can't win. A Republican cannot win
in New York City as mayor Republican. And I'm starting
to think we haven't had a Republican governor in twenty.
Speaker 1 (04:46):
Years, have we? And no George for Taki that was
it's I mean, he served three terms, and and Bruce
is a lot like George where you know, he has
that personal appeal. I mean, President Trump says, you know,
Bruce's of central casting. He's very likable and and like that.
Siena pol I cided, I mean, Elise's twenty eight favorable
(05:08):
thirty six unfairbles she's already that negative in New York
State among the voters that.
Speaker 2 (05:12):
Nowhere republican Republican can win New York, right.
Speaker 1 (05:17):
Uh, definitely a Republican could win New York because in
that same poem referring to most voters want somebody new
for governor, and uh, you know, well they want somebody new,
but they're saying, well, lease, isn't it. So let's let's
give Bruce some time to build some support and show
he could potentially beat Kathy Hulkl. So you know that's uh,
(05:40):
you know, we need change in New York. And uh,
definitely right, you're you're familiar with you know, I mean,
and that was with Mayor elect Mundai. Uh, you're going
to need a governor to be a check and balance,
particularly if the legislature gives in on him, like Bruce
has pointed out that Kathy Holk We now wants to
raise the corporate tax in New York from seven percent
(06:03):
to eleven percent. Well, that'll be passed on to consumers.
That won't be good for cost morning. Hey, could and.
Speaker 2 (06:09):
Could you guys start using the word tariffs. I love
to do that. When they talk about raising the corporate tax,
it's a tariff. So Democrats want to now put tariffs
on the corporations in New York. It's the same thing.
Speaker 1 (06:19):
The difference is no tariffs are on you know, that's
on foreign things coming back to the United States. We're
talking about this is domestic. This is your jobs in
New York. The people that you might work for in
New York. If they get if their corporate taxes go
from seven to eleven. Here they go to Texas and
Florida and Tennessee and you know, it's it's not good.
(06:43):
So they you know, we could lose jobs because of them,
and then the prices get passed on and so hey,
we need we need to like Bruce to stop that.
Speaker 2 (06:53):
Yeah, no, definitely, Bruce Blakeman. Hey, I'm watching The Morning
Joe this morning. Apparently Donald Trump has the worst poll
numbers ever. He's dying, He's going to be uh, the lowest.
What's the real truth?
Speaker 1 (07:06):
We had? And it's on our website. The day before Thanksgiving,
we put out a national survey, We put out a
monthly national survey, and President Trump has a fifty job
approval forty six disapprove among likely voters, people that will
show up next November and vote for members of Congress
and Senate. And you know, I think it could be
it could be higher, but we've got we've got to
(07:28):
sell them that the you know, ironically, that the economy
is doing better. Economy and inflation are still the top
issues and Biden is responsible for most of the inflation
he's dealing with right now. But President Trump had a
great night on Tuesday night when he was out in
Pennsylvania talking about the fact that wages are now growing
(07:49):
faster than the rate of inflation. And you know, the
tax cuts, the no tax cuts on tips, on overtime,
on so security, they don't kick in till January. So
when they start kicking in, you know, our friends like
Larry Kudlow, Steve Moore that you know very well, Steve Forbes,
that's when you'll get even better growth in the economy.
(08:09):
And uh so I think that'll that will help us
next year so that we can keep keep the House
and keep the Senate in uh in Washington, and President
Trump will be out on the campaign trail doing what
he did on Tuesday night, talking about the real facts
about how how the economy is in better shape than
I think, as you said, uh, Joe Scarborough or whatever
(08:30):
they said, you know, I mean before they go back
to Connecticut and their dry limbos and stuff like that.
So but we think we need to I mean, President
Trump is going to make it better for working class voters.
And this affordability issues. As Bruce Blakeman showed us in Nasau,
Democrats can't be for affordability when they want to raise
(08:53):
your taxes. I mean, how that's the least affordable thing.
If the four years of biding inflation to pay higher
taxes in every Democrat for Congress or for Senate voted
for the elected Trump tax cuts laps, which would erase
taxes two or three thousand dollars on every American. And
we can't afford that. And pal's not lower and interest
(09:15):
rates fast enough, because morriage rates are still high, credit
card rates are still high. We got to get rid
of him, and we got to look at Trump tax
cuts work, and friends like Larry Cullo a tell us
they gotta have a boom.
Speaker 2 (09:27):
This year, yeah, and next year. Actually, starting January, the
big beautiful bill kicks in. Everybody's going to notice a
big difference in their paychecks starting in January. Well, John McLoughlin,
great stuff. People can go to your website. What can
they see up there? At McLaughlin online dot com.
Speaker 1 (09:44):
McLachlan online dot com. You will find the National survey
that I spoke about, and you'll see that. And then
we actually have a history of surveys on that that
go way back, the ones that had Trump beating Kamala
Harris and beating Joe Biden for that. But the press,
the media didn't say that was gonna happen.
Speaker 2 (10:03):
Yeah, the way, Well everybody go check it out. Well,
thanks to you. But he's the best poster on earth.
He's the real polls, not the fake public, but the
best poster on Earth. And John McLoughlin's website is mclaughlinonline
dot com. Check it out, John McLaughlin, thanks for being
with us. Thank you, take care. He don't forget coming
(10:24):
up at noon. You got Buck Sexton and Clay Travis.
Excellent show. Sean Hannity the most listened to radio show
in America at three, Jesse Kelly at six. You got
Jimmy Fayala nine o'clock every night. It's a very, very
very good show. You got me ten to noon. By
the way, if you're a podcast listener, don't forget. You
can you know, if you can't hear the show ten
(10:45):
to noon, if you can't listen live, you can hear
this show anytime, day or night, whenever you want. Just
get the podcast and don't forget. If you're a podcast
listener on the weekends, there's a bonus segment, so you
get like an extra show. If you're a podcast listener,
you can get the podcasts anywhere wherever you get podcasts,
or just go to seven ten wor dot com
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