December 4, 2025 • 10 mins
The two attended an exclusive event last night at a Manhattan restaurant, where they mingled with several celebrities and gained unique insights into their lives. Notably, Roger had the chance to sit down with filmmaker Woody Allen to discuss how things are going for him, and the conversation was positive and engaging.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hey, Roger Friedman, the great entertainment reporter. His website if
you should check it every day, there's always good stories.
Showbiz for one one dot com. Showbiz for one one
dot com. Roger Friedman, how you doing.
Speaker 2 (00:15):
I'm great. It was fun seeing you last night.
Speaker 1 (00:17):
Mark, Well, last night was you know, there was Elaines
the great celebrity restaurant for fifty years. Last night was
the reunion of Elaine's. The customers, the crowd, but it was.
Speaker 3 (00:28):
The fifteenth anniversary of Elaine's passing, which she would be
ninety five, I think, or ninety six. But it's amazing
the fifteen years have gone by, and the place where
they had this event, called Hudson Malone on it's fifth
forward fifty third Street was packed, just packed with people
(00:50):
who'd been to Alan's. An amazing situation. She would have
been so thrilled to see all those people in there
toasting her and you know, just having a good time.
Speaker 1 (01:01):
Except great crowd, but you know, we had seen these
people twenty years ago. Twenty five looked a lot older,
a lot of.
Speaker 2 (01:08):
These people crowd. We didn't look at it old, but
they did.
Speaker 1 (01:15):
But people always ask the same thing. Elaines you could
go in there any night and was filled with famous faces, celebrities,
movie stars, all these making Why is there nothing like
that today?
Speaker 3 (01:28):
You know, there might be somewhere, but people don't since
the pandemic in particular, people don't really.
Speaker 2 (01:35):
Go out anymore.
Speaker 1 (01:36):
They did and it's packed in.
Speaker 2 (01:40):
But Elaine's was a place where he weren't really late
at night.
Speaker 3 (01:43):
At the end of the night, you would at ten
or eleven o'clock, when you were finished at theater or
dinner or whatever, you would say, let's go to Alan's.
Speaker 2 (01:51):
And that's what made.
Speaker 3 (01:52):
It special because people came pouring in very late and
stay till two in the morning, and it was, you know,
lots of great conversation. I just interviewed Woody Allen. It's
on my site on Showbiz four one one. I just
interviewed Woody Allen for his ninetieth birthday ninety and ninety
and we had it's a great interview. It's an hour
and a half and on video. And we talked about
(02:14):
Elaines and he said he even at the height of
his fame with any Hall and all, that he was
the least famous person in the restaurant and he was
constantly meeting people. In fact, he met the philosopher Simone
de Bouvoir there, of all people, I mean, that's how
crazy it was where people came.
Speaker 2 (02:33):
From all over the world to be at Alaians.
Speaker 1 (02:37):
Yeah, sometimes you see the biggest Hollywood writers, but they
give you an awe because like the greatest figures in
Saul Bella would be there, and this guy.
Speaker 3 (02:47):
So Robert Altman, a, Kurt Vonnegut and Joseph Heller and
all kinds of people like that. I'm at Urdigen and
movie stars came in all the time. I used to
sit late at night with Daphney Coleman when he was
in town, and all kinds of great One night I
met Greg Allman in there. That was amazing. And Phil Spector.
(03:07):
On my fortieth birthday. Phil Spector came in and he
had like ten bodyguards, all with holsters and guns. And
Elaine said to me, go talk to him, and I'm like,
I'm right, what are you talking about? He has ten bodyguards.
She goes, just go on over and say hi. So
I did, and I had a good interview with him.
Speaker 1 (03:27):
Although I remember him one night he punched somebody who
did he punch? He got no fight there one night,
did he really?
Speaker 2 (03:33):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (03:33):
Not there occasionally there were fights. And last night in
front of the bar, which is a very nice place,
this restaurant, there was some kind of fight on the
street on the Sidefeld. It was just like a lanes.
It was like in honor of Elaane.
Speaker 1 (03:50):
So you know what, here's why there's no big celebrity
residence where you're going. There's a million, sir. Nowadays, there's
no celebrities that everybody would know. You know, like if
I read page six, I don't know who any of
these people.
Speaker 2 (04:01):
Are, and now well there's somebody you know.
Speaker 3 (04:05):
First of all, celebrities aren't value sort of the same
way now, like the movie studios want to have paid
influencers come to the red carpet. They walk the red carpet.
You've never heard of these people before in your life.
They're dressed very strangely, and then they're supposed to be
promoting the movies to their followers. Well, these people are
(04:27):
not celebrities, and it's very peculiar to see them at
all these movies. There's this happened this week, but two
different two or three different premieres where no one knew
who these people were, Yeah, this is what this is
what the studios want.
Speaker 2 (04:41):
Now.
Speaker 3 (04:42):
They don't care whether you know candiceberg and let's say
I'm just using her as example, or or any you know,
famous movie star comes to the red carpet. They want
someone who's on TikTok.
Speaker 1 (04:55):
Yeah, because if you bring Kandasbergen or Clint Eastwood, whoever,
or half the world doesn't know who these people are anymore.
Speaker 2 (05:02):
Yeah, that's very peculiar.
Speaker 3 (05:03):
I can't imagine that that's the case, but I'm sure
it probably is. And they're only in you know, during
the summer, there was this movie with Austin Butler and
outside on the Red carpet. It was a beautiful night
and there were tons of these people walking around in costumes.
Finally we said to them, who are you?
Speaker 2 (05:24):
What is all this?
Speaker 3 (05:26):
And while we were talking to them on the street,
fans were coming up to the people on the street
who had nothing to do with the movie premiere.
Speaker 2 (05:33):
We're coming up to them and saying, oh.
Speaker 3 (05:35):
I watch you all the time, like you watch them
all the time, and what do they do? You know,
they don't really do anything. It's a different world. Yeah,
you know, it's just a different world because of the
phones and the social media and the access.
Speaker 1 (05:50):
Hey well, Avery, watch Roger Freeman's interview with Woody Allen
on his site showbiz for one one dot com. So
tell us more about what he on. Is he in
good spirit?
Speaker 2 (06:00):
He's in great spirits.
Speaker 3 (06:01):
He's in good shape, he told I got him to
tell a story he had told me a long time
ago when he was a stand up comedian and he
didn't want to be a stand up comedian, but he
signed out.
Speaker 2 (06:13):
He had been a writer, you know, for your.
Speaker 3 (06:15):
Show, show Sid Caesar and all that stuff, and he
got an agent and the agent said, we don't represent writers,
we only represent performers, so you have to go out
and do stand up comedy routine around the country. And
he didn't want to do it, and they sent him out.
And you know, he plays the clarinet. He plays it
now and played it then. And he used to bring
(06:37):
his records with him to the hotel rooms, but he
needed a record player. So in each city he would
be at the city for a week or two weeks,
he would buy a new record player and put it
in the room and play his records and come back
from the clubs he wasn't like the kind of comedian
who stays out all night drinking. He comes back to
the room, practices the clarinet, and then when he's in
(07:00):
the city, he leaves the record player there.
Speaker 2 (07:02):
Yeah. Now, so he left dosens and record players around
the country.
Speaker 1 (07:06):
People are people under thirty are going, what the hell
are they talking about? What's a record player?
Speaker 2 (07:11):
What's there's a record player?
Speaker 3 (07:13):
Well, you know, he also writes on an underwood manual typewriter.
You kidd No, He's written every single thing he's ever
written on the same typewriter. He's never seen a computer.
I've seen I have this and I've taken a nice
picture of him in his office with the with the typewriter.
(07:34):
He goes to I said, how do you get the ribbons?
He says, well, I go down. I go down the
Union Square. There's some little store still there that's selling
the ribbons to this typewriter from seventy.
Speaker 2 (07:46):
Four years ago when he got it. Wow, isn't that amazing?
Speaker 1 (07:49):
Yeah, New York go watch this interview. It's on showbiz
fo one dot com. Hey did you know Olivia Nosey?
Did you ever work with her?
Speaker 2 (07:57):
No?
Speaker 3 (07:58):
I never knew her. You know her book is out.
It's a lital failure. It's like number ten thousand or
something on Amazon. Nobody wants to buy it. It's the
kind of thing that's like a media story. It's just
for media gossip. Regular people who are listening to this
don't care about it. But Olivia Newsy apparently was writing
a profile of Robert Kennedy Junior last year for New
(08:21):
York Magazine, and she was having an affair with him,
and she was blocking negative stories in the rest of
the press about him. She's completely crazy. She had a
live in fiance and he's a journalist too, and he
was taking notes the whole time that this was going on.
She thought he wasn't paying attention, just having this affair
(08:42):
with Kennedy who said he wanted to impregnate her in
emails and stuff like that, and the fiance, who had
his own problems at New York Magazine a couple of
years ago. He kept track of all this. So he's
been putting this up now on substack and charging people
to read it. Of course, no one's no one's paying
for it.
Speaker 2 (09:02):
Well, what about the journals.
Speaker 1 (09:04):
They're all Kennedy haters. Why don't they but how come
they're not buying this book.
Speaker 2 (09:08):
Now, they're not buying the book.
Speaker 3 (09:09):
They have no interest in her because this is legiti
because MSNBC, you know, they don't like Trump obviously, but
they're actual journalists and this woman has done something that's
a violation of every journalistic ethic. So and I think
people on all sides feel that way. So she's she's
kind of cooked, and she's really doubled down on it.
(09:31):
And Vanity Fair hired her to be their West Coast editor,
and now of course they want out.
Speaker 2 (09:36):
Of the contract. They didn't realize how crazy she was.
Speaker 1 (09:38):
She's like a man out of country now.
Speaker 3 (09:40):
So yes, she's a reporter without a magazine. So it's
a disaster. Meantime, Kennedy's wife, Cheryl Hines, published her own book.
Knowing this one was coming out, she published her own.
Speaker 2 (09:53):
Book to get ahead of it.
Speaker 3 (09:55):
And that book has sold two copies, maybe three.
Speaker 1 (10:01):
We're out of time, but everybody check out this good stories,
new stuff every day showbizfour one one dot com, Showbiz
four one one dot com, and take a look at
the Woody Allen interview. It's a powerful video. And Roger
Friedman thanks for being with us, Thank you, take care,
don't forget Buck and Clay Noon Today, excellent show every day.
(10:22):
And then the most listened to radio show in America.
You got Sean Hannity three o'clock, Jesse Kelly at six,
and our great new show Jimmy Fayala. He'll be with
us in the next hour. Jimmy Fayla now every night
at nine o'clock on seven, ten, wor
Hey, Roger Friedman, the great entertainment reporter. His website if
you should check it every day, there's always good stories.
Showbiz for one one dot com. Showbiz for one one
dot com. Roger Friedman, how you doing.
Speaker 2 (00:15):
I'm great. It was fun seeing you last night.
Speaker 1 (00:17):
Mark, Well, last night was you know, there was Elaines
the great celebrity restaurant for fifty years. Last night was
the reunion of Elaine's. The customers, the crowd, but it was.
Speaker 3 (00:28):
The fifteenth anniversary of Elaine's passing, which she would be
ninety five, I think, or ninety six. But it's amazing
the fifteen years have gone by, and the place where
they had this event, called Hudson Malone on it's fifth
forward fifty third Street was packed, just packed with people
(00:50):
who'd been to Alan's. An amazing situation. She would have
been so thrilled to see all those people in there
toasting her and you know, just having a good time.
Speaker 1 (01:01):
Except great crowd, but you know, we had seen these
people twenty years ago. Twenty five looked a lot older,
a lot of.
Speaker 2 (01:08):
These people crowd. We didn't look at it old, but
they did.
Speaker 1 (01:15):
But people always ask the same thing. Elaines you could
go in there any night and was filled with famous faces, celebrities,
movie stars, all these making Why is there nothing like
that today?
Speaker 3 (01:28):
You know, there might be somewhere, but people don't since
the pandemic in particular, people don't really.
Speaker 2 (01:35):
Go out anymore.
Speaker 1 (01:36):
They did and it's packed in.
Speaker 2 (01:40):
But Elaine's was a place where he weren't really late
at night.
Speaker 3 (01:43):
At the end of the night, you would at ten
or eleven o'clock, when you were finished at theater or
dinner or whatever, you would say, let's go to Alan's.
Speaker 2 (01:51):
And that's what made.
Speaker 3 (01:52):
It special because people came pouring in very late and
stay till two in the morning, and it was, you know,
lots of great conversation. I just interviewed Woody Allen. It's
on my site on Showbiz four one one. I just
interviewed Woody Allen for his ninetieth birthday ninety and ninety
and we had it's a great interview. It's an hour
and a half and on video. And we talked about
(02:14):
Elaines and he said he even at the height of
his fame with any Hall and all, that he was
the least famous person in the restaurant and he was
constantly meeting people. In fact, he met the philosopher Simone
de Bouvoir there, of all people, I mean, that's how
crazy it was where people came.
Speaker 2 (02:33):
From all over the world to be at Alaians.
Speaker 1 (02:37):
Yeah, sometimes you see the biggest Hollywood writers, but they
give you an awe because like the greatest figures in
Saul Bella would be there, and this guy.
Speaker 3 (02:47):
So Robert Altman, a, Kurt Vonnegut and Joseph Heller and
all kinds of people like that. I'm at Urdigen and
movie stars came in all the time. I used to
sit late at night with Daphney Coleman when he was
in town, and all kinds of great One night I
met Greg Allman in there. That was amazing. And Phil Spector.
(03:07):
On my fortieth birthday. Phil Spector came in and he
had like ten bodyguards, all with holsters and guns. And
Elaine said to me, go talk to him, and I'm like,
I'm right, what are you talking about? He has ten bodyguards.
She goes, just go on over and say hi. So
I did, and I had a good interview with him.
Speaker 1 (03:27):
Although I remember him one night he punched somebody who
did he punch? He got no fight there one night,
did he really?
Speaker 2 (03:33):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (03:33):
Not there occasionally there were fights. And last night in
front of the bar, which is a very nice place,
this restaurant, there was some kind of fight on the
street on the Sidefeld. It was just like a lanes.
It was like in honor of Elaane.
Speaker 1 (03:50):
So you know what, here's why there's no big celebrity
residence where you're going. There's a million, sir. Nowadays, there's
no celebrities that everybody would know. You know, like if
I read page six, I don't know who any of
these people.
Speaker 2 (04:01):
Are, and now well there's somebody you know.
Speaker 3 (04:05):
First of all, celebrities aren't value sort of the same
way now, like the movie studios want to have paid
influencers come to the red carpet. They walk the red carpet.
You've never heard of these people before in your life.
They're dressed very strangely, and then they're supposed to be
promoting the movies to their followers. Well, these people are
(04:27):
not celebrities, and it's very peculiar to see them at
all these movies. There's this happened this week, but two
different two or three different premieres where no one knew
who these people were, Yeah, this is what this is
what the studios want.
Speaker 2 (04:41):
Now.
Speaker 3 (04:42):
They don't care whether you know candiceberg and let's say
I'm just using her as example, or or any you know,
famous movie star comes to the red carpet. They want
someone who's on TikTok.
Speaker 1 (04:55):
Yeah, because if you bring Kandasbergen or Clint Eastwood, whoever,
or half the world doesn't know who these people are anymore.
Speaker 2 (05:02):
Yeah, that's very peculiar.
Speaker 3 (05:03):
I can't imagine that that's the case, but I'm sure
it probably is. And they're only in you know, during
the summer, there was this movie with Austin Butler and
outside on the Red carpet. It was a beautiful night
and there were tons of these people walking around in costumes.
Finally we said to them, who are you?
Speaker 2 (05:24):
What is all this?
Speaker 3 (05:26):
And while we were talking to them on the street,
fans were coming up to the people on the street
who had nothing to do with the movie premiere.
Speaker 2 (05:33):
We're coming up to them and saying, oh.
Speaker 3 (05:35):
I watch you all the time, like you watch them
all the time, and what do they do? You know,
they don't really do anything. It's a different world. Yeah,
you know, it's just a different world because of the
phones and the social media and the access.
Speaker 1 (05:50):
Hey well, Avery, watch Roger Freeman's interview with Woody Allen
on his site showbiz for one one dot com. So
tell us more about what he on. Is he in
good spirit?
Speaker 2 (06:00):
He's in great spirits.
Speaker 3 (06:01):
He's in good shape, he told I got him to
tell a story he had told me a long time
ago when he was a stand up comedian and he
didn't want to be a stand up comedian, but he
signed out.
Speaker 2 (06:13):
He had been a writer, you know, for your.
Speaker 3 (06:15):
Show, show Sid Caesar and all that stuff, and he
got an agent and the agent said, we don't represent writers,
we only represent performers, so you have to go out
and do stand up comedy routine around the country. And
he didn't want to do it, and they sent him out.
And you know, he plays the clarinet. He plays it
now and played it then. And he used to bring
(06:37):
his records with him to the hotel rooms, but he
needed a record player. So in each city he would
be at the city for a week or two weeks,
he would buy a new record player and put it
in the room and play his records and come back
from the clubs he wasn't like the kind of comedian
who stays out all night drinking. He comes back to
the room, practices the clarinet, and then when he's in
(07:00):
the city, he leaves the record player there.
Speaker 2 (07:02):
Yeah. Now, so he left dosens and record players around
the country.
Speaker 1 (07:06):
People are people under thirty are going, what the hell
are they talking about? What's a record player?
Speaker 2 (07:11):
What's there's a record player?
Speaker 3 (07:13):
Well, you know, he also writes on an underwood manual typewriter.
You kidd No, He's written every single thing he's ever
written on the same typewriter. He's never seen a computer.
I've seen I have this and I've taken a nice
picture of him in his office with the with the typewriter.
(07:34):
He goes to I said, how do you get the ribbons?
He says, well, I go down. I go down the
Union Square. There's some little store still there that's selling
the ribbons to this typewriter from seventy.
Speaker 2 (07:46):
Four years ago when he got it. Wow, isn't that amazing?
Speaker 1 (07:49):
Yeah, New York go watch this interview. It's on showbiz
fo one dot com. Hey did you know Olivia Nosey?
Did you ever work with her?
Speaker 2 (07:57):
No?
Speaker 3 (07:58):
I never knew her. You know her book is out.
It's a lital failure. It's like number ten thousand or
something on Amazon. Nobody wants to buy it. It's the
kind of thing that's like a media story. It's just
for media gossip. Regular people who are listening to this
don't care about it. But Olivia Newsy apparently was writing
a profile of Robert Kennedy Junior last year for New
(08:21):
York Magazine, and she was having an affair with him,
and she was blocking negative stories in the rest of
the press about him. She's completely crazy. She had a
live in fiance and he's a journalist too, and he
was taking notes the whole time that this was going on.
She thought he wasn't paying attention, just having this affair
(08:42):
with Kennedy who said he wanted to impregnate her in
emails and stuff like that, and the fiance, who had
his own problems at New York Magazine a couple of
years ago. He kept track of all this. So he's
been putting this up now on substack and charging people
to read it. Of course, no one's no one's paying
for it.
Speaker 2 (09:02):
Well, what about the journals.
Speaker 1 (09:04):
They're all Kennedy haters. Why don't they but how come
they're not buying this book.
Speaker 2 (09:08):
Now, they're not buying the book.
Speaker 3 (09:09):
They have no interest in her because this is legiti
because MSNBC, you know, they don't like Trump obviously, but
they're actual journalists and this woman has done something that's
a violation of every journalistic ethic. So and I think
people on all sides feel that way. So she's she's
kind of cooked, and she's really doubled down on it.
(09:31):
And Vanity Fair hired her to be their West Coast editor,
and now of course they want out.
Speaker 2 (09:36):
Of the contract. They didn't realize how crazy she was.
Speaker 1 (09:38):
She's like a man out of country now.
Speaker 3 (09:40):
So yes, she's a reporter without a magazine. So it's
a disaster. Meantime, Kennedy's wife, Cheryl Hines, published her own book.
Knowing this one was coming out, she published her own.
Speaker 2 (09:53):
Book to get ahead of it.
Speaker 3 (09:55):
And that book has sold two copies, maybe three.
Speaker 1 (10:01):
We're out of time, but everybody check out this good stories,
new stuff every day showbizfour one one dot com, Showbiz
four one one dot com, and take a look at
the Woody Allen interview. It's a powerful video. And Roger
Friedman thanks for being with us, Thank you, take care,
don't forget Buck and Clay Noon Today, excellent show every day.
(10:22):
And then the most listened to radio show in America.
You got Sean Hannity three o'clock, Jesse Kelly at six,
and our great new show Jimmy Fayala. He'll be with
us in the next hour. Jimmy Fayla now every night
at nine o'clock on seven, ten, wor
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