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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Nowor presents no Mark Simon Shaw. Hey, it's Friday. We
got a lot to get to. We'll go over the
Mayor Old debate in just a second. We'll get to
President Trump meeting with Zelenski today in the White House.
Then also at the end of the day, end of
the afternoon, heading tomorrow Lago for the first time, we'll
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get to John Bolton. By the way, this is not lawfair.
They keep a lawfair going on. Lawfair is when you
get indicted in four cities at the same time. Bolton,
as Joe Pashi would say, in Casino, this guy was
begging to be made an example of. So we'll get
to him. Coming up, we'll get to Letitia James, even
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more dirt coming out about her family. A lot of
stuff to get to. Last night's debate, Curtis won the debate.
Now here's the only problem. I don't know if anybody noticed.
That's the problem. Curtis was great, but there was no
clear moment, knockout punch, incredible moment, nothing super viral. And
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the other the real problem. This is a Channel four
WNBC TV and they did this last time. Very biased.
When it comes to running debates, they should never be
allowed to do a debate. So the moderators were very
careful to keep any attention away from Curtis. They tried
to give Curtis as little time as possible. At one
point in the debate, he actually said to them, you
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guys are trying to marginalize me. You're trying to keep
me out of this. Here's basically what happened. Mamdanni, who
was a great debater, he was phenomenal in the primary debates.
He just wiped out Cuomo in this debate. He was good,
not as great as he was in the earlier debates
because he was being too careful. He had all his
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slick salesman mam donni's stuff going on, but he was
hedging and being a little more vague in his answers,
covering himself. So, but the good news for him is
Cuomo was just awful, as awful as he is when
he talks like this, and it was just too slow.
Curtis very You know, Curtis is the only professional debater
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in the race. Curtis has done one hundred thousand debates.
He's been doing this professionally for thirty five years. Mom, Donnie,
I don't know how it happened. But he's a very
very good debater. Cuomo a bumbling, stumbling, weak debater. And
he doesn't look right anymore. You know, it was a
good looking guy, but he's got that ozembic face now
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and he got himself too skinny. I don't know why
he did that. He tries to project this tough guy.
You know, if you want to project a tough guy,
I means you got to have a little bulk to you.
You can't be a toothpick. It doesn't And the problem
is he projects weakness when he talks, and if you
look that skinny, it just enhances that whole weak look.
So he's got to put some It was a little
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too late, but he should have kept some weight on
John pedorit's the great political analyst. Here's what he's said
about Cuomo last night. And Pedoritz is a guy who
should be a Cuomo fan and a Democrat. But Podoritz
says about Cuomo, for a man who's running multiple elections
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over the past twenty five years, Cuomo was shockingly inarticulate
and unable to sustain a single argument or a single answer.
There were moments when Cuomo sounded more like Luca Brazzi
stumbling through his thanks to Don Corleone for the wedding
invitation than he did like his own famously silver tongued father. Yeah,
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that's a good point. Mario Cuomo was in his day
the greatest orator in American politics. He's a phenomenal debater.
He was one of my debate coaches. We used to
when he was governor. He would come on once a
month and we'd come into the studio, we'd have a
one hour debate, and then afterwards he would stay and
he would give me a whole breakdown of everything I
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did wrong. I mean, it was so helpful. He would
show me every year, dude, you did this, do this.
We's just the best debate coach in the world. So
if he did that for me, I would imagine did
that for Andrew times a million. So I don't know
what happened. It's you know, it's the same thing with
Hillary Clinton when she's running at that time. Bill Clinton
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is the greatest orator in American politics. She's married to
the greatest political speaker in the world, and she can't talk.
She's horrible in debate, she's horrible in speeches. Whatever it
is it didn't rub off or I don't know, if
you're too close to the person, maybe you don't take
the coaching the way you should. So the next debate
will be Wednesday night next week, Wednesday night. Now, the
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problem with that it's New York one, which nobody sees,
and the debate moderator, this is a horrible choice, should
recuse himself. It's Errol Lewis, who's the most partisan left
wing guy in the world. That's really inappropriate to have
this guy run a debate. It's absolutely ridiculous, so that
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it's probably going to go well for anybody with him
doing it. But here's some of last night's debate, and
one of the questions was experience.
Speaker 2 (05:06):
In other words, what these n blingman said is he
has no experience.
Speaker 3 (05:10):
What I don't have an experience, I make up for
an integrity, And what you don't have an integrity, you
could never make up for an experience.
Speaker 4 (05:15):
We have the architect and we have the apprentice of
no Cash fail, which was made in disjaction.
Speaker 1 (05:21):
Yeah. So, now, by the way, Cuomo has been doing
a lot of interviews today and I notice if you
listened to him a week ago doing interviews, it was
all about how bad mom Dottie is, how great he is. Well,
if you're listening today doing interviews, he was really going
after Curtis. He was trying to hit Curtis hard, which
means he feels Curtis was very, very good last night.
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He feels Curtis did a lot of damage because he
seems very busy trying to take out Curtis.
Speaker 2 (05:48):
Now, this is no job for on the job training.
And if you look at the failed mayors, they're ones
that had no management experience. Don't do it again.
Speaker 3 (05:58):
I have the experience of having serve in the New
York State Assembly for five years and watching a broken
political system. And what all of that experience has shown me,
which mister Cuomo can't seem to understand, is that it
is far too expensive him and far too hard for
New Yorkers to afford to live in this city.
Speaker 2 (06:14):
He literally has never had a job. On his resume,
it says he in turned for his mother. You got
our hurricane. You were God forbid a nine to eleven
a health pandemic.
Speaker 3 (06:24):
And if we have a health pandemic, then why would
New Yorkers turn back to the governor who sent seniors
to their death and nursing homes.
Speaker 1 (06:30):
See, this is Cuomo's main problem. This is what happened
to him in the second debate in the primary, he
armed himself with all kinds of attacks. Cuomo had such
a horrible record as governor, did so many bad things
as governor. No matter what he tries to hit Mam
Dommie with, Mam Donnie's got these kind of comebacks. Cuomo
created the whole crime wave with his no bail, no jail,
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with his defund the police. He actually did defund the
police with his closing all the prisons, letting the prisoners out,
redoing the parole board so they let all the prisoners
at I was just horrible. And if you listen to them,
to him now trying to he's finally trying to explain
away some of that. He can't do it. He can't
do it. He's the no bail, no jail was the
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worst thing anybody ever did to New York. And he's
the guy that pushed that. He didn't just sign it,
he pushed it in speech after speech. It was just horrible.
So he can't explain that away. Even the don't close
Rikers Island. He was the guy pushing to close Rikers Island.
He's now arguing, well, I didn't say closed the island.
I meant closed the building. He the double talk just
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won't work. Israel, obviously was a big topic.
Speaker 2 (07:37):
The assemblyman still won't say he believes that Israel has
the right to exist as a Jewish state. He is
a divisive personality.
Speaker 3 (07:44):
I've said time and again that I recognize Israel's right
to exist. I've said that I will not recognize anything Jewish,
said that I will not a Jewish state if I
would be allowed to finish that, I would not recognize
any states right to exist with a system of hierarchy
on the basis of race, of religion.
Speaker 4 (08:00):
Jews are under attack now more than ever before, and
I don't believe either of you have the capability. And
he'll protecting that with increase au Semitism.
Speaker 1 (08:09):
Yeah. Now, Curtis went on to point out all the
times where there were horrible, horrible attacks on Jews and
he was there with the Guardian Angels to protect them. So,
if you watch the whole thing, Curtis had a great night.
But again, I don't know if it was enough, and
I don't know if anybody noticed that he won the debate,
but the moderators were trying very hard to keep the
spotlight away from Curtis. This was also the Muslim vote
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was in there a lot. Cuomo trying to suddenly go
to mosques and all that, something he never did before.
Speaker 2 (08:39):
I don't think in any way the Assemblyman is representative
of the Muslim community. Many of his positions don't even
follow the Muslim faith.
Speaker 3 (08:49):
You know, it took Andrew Cuomo being beaten by a
Muslim candidate in the Democratic primary for him to set
foot in a mosque. It's been an hour or twenty
minutes of this debate and we haven't heard Governor Cuomo
say the word affordability. That's why he lost the primary.
Speaker 1 (09:03):
Yeah, now, I think making that the real problem. If
it's affordability, if that's the issue, that's the real problem.
If there's an affordability crisis in New York, if things
are bad here, well then you got to get rid
of the Democrats because they've been running the whole place
for fifteen years. They've been running everything. They've been the mayor,
the governor, the legislature, of the city council. Everything has
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been run by Democrats. So if it's a disaster in
the crisis, blame them obviously. If it's that bad after
fifteen years of them, you switch parties, you switch to
something else. Here's more of the debate. Curtis now Curtis's
number one issued police crime with.
Speaker 4 (09:39):
This new police Outrage unit. Well, in danger women and
children in domestic violence situation, they will be killed, they
will be made.
Speaker 1 (09:49):
Now they went into that social workers will answer domestic
violence calls. As cops will tell you, one of the
most dangerous things you can respond to is a domestic
violence called. People get killed there. So you don't want
to send social workers in. And as Ray Kelly and
all the great experts have explained, NYPD has tried that
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through the years a million times. They've tried that program
where social workers respond to domestic violence, and they find
a few things. Well, A, it doesn't work. It's never worked.
They've tried it a number of times over the decades.
It doesn't work. And B the social workers do not
want to do this. They want the cops with them
on this. So and Cuomo keeps trying that. No, he
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has no experience. You know, experience is a good thing.
If you were good at it if you had a
lot of experience and you were horrible at it. Cuomo
did so many awful things. This governor, I don't know it.
May have the experience, but it's not good experience.
Speaker 2 (10:45):
He has no experience. And this is not a job
for someone who has no management experience to run three
hundred thousand people, no financial experience to run one hundred
and fifteen billion dollar budget. He literally has never had
a job.
Speaker 1 (10:58):
Yeah, he kept trying that. I don't know if that
works with anybody.
Speaker 4 (11:01):
Jews don't trust that you can be there for them
when they are victims of anti Semitic attacks.
Speaker 3 (11:08):
And what I'm looking to do as the first Muslim
mayor of the city is to ensure that we bring
every New Yorker together, Jewish new Yorkers, Muslim new Yorkers,
every single person that calls the city home.
Speaker 1 (11:18):
Yeah. Now, this race is going to be about turnout.
The way you get a Deblasio elected is you have
eighteen percent turnout if nobody shows up, just the you know,
the energized far left shows up and you get a Deblasio.
So if it's the same thing happened in the primary,
if it's just eighteen percent. You know, that's Mom Donnie.
And if you can get it presidential year kind of
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a turnout, If you can get it to eighty percent,
then it's not necessarily Mom Donnie. So you got to
get it up to eighty percent. Cuomo cannot beat Mam Donnie.
It's impossible. He's been tested against Mom Donnie and the primaries.
He stinks at beating Mam Donnie. I was talking a
lot of the big, big, big donors yesterday. These are
the ones that back Cuomo. And as we always explained
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to you, the big donors are always wrong every time
when it comes to politics. And when you try to explain,
we've seen that Cuomo is a disaster against Mam Donni.
Apparently the excuse he's given them and they're all falling
for this. They all keep repeating this. Well, that was
ranked choice, and it was the ranked choice that Donnie
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only beat Cuomo because of the ranked choice. This is
absolutely not true. If there were no ranked choice, he
would have beaten Cuomo in a much quicker Forget the
rank choice. It had nothing to do with the primary.
First first round of the primary, Cuomo got wiped out
by Mom Donnie. Mam Donnie beat him by one hundred
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thousand votes. This is out of seven hundred thousand. Ma'm
donnie beat him by one hundred thousand votes. It wasn't
even close. Ranked choice was not a factor. Obviously, taxes
came up. That's a big issue.
Speaker 2 (12:54):
He's going to raise taxes. All of He's going to
raise taxes stayed wide on corporations. But the money's only
going to go to New York City. That could never happen.
It's not just that the governor wouldn't support it, it's impossible.
Speaker 1 (13:07):
Yeah. Again, Quoto not an effective debater. He's got that
voice where he goes into that sing song. It doesn't
sound good when you do it in the debate. Sound
like a housewife in Long Island. You do that.
Speaker 3 (13:21):
What I tell the President is if he ever wants
to come for New Yorkers in the way that he
has been, he's going to have to get through me
as the next mayor of the city.
Speaker 4 (13:27):
But if you try to get tough with Trump, the
only people who are going to suffer from that are
the people of New York.
Speaker 2 (13:33):
Citykay, when I'm fighting for New York, i am not
going to stop. And I'll tell you something else. If
the Assemblyman is elected, Mayor Donald Trump will take over
New York City and it will be Mayor Trump.
Speaker 3 (13:45):
Who runs New York City.
Speaker 1 (13:46):
Yeah, I don't know. I don't know. Now here's the
only hope here. Curtis did win. I don't think there
was enough of a knockout punch, or enough of a
moment to go super viral, or enough people. I don't know.
I don't know. You can never tell after a debate.
You got to wait a couple of days for it
all sink in. And remember now it goes all over
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the place. It's all over social media, streaming, YouTube, it's everywhere.
It takes a few days for everybody to see it.
So we'll see what the effect is, probably by monday.
I don't know. You can't tell. Now, how do you
stop mom Donnie? If this isn't going to stop him, Well,
there are all those investigations into the money this guy
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came out of nowhere. Found SOMEBOWT fifty million and sorrows
type money flowed into him, somethink from around the world,
something from China, all different countries. If they can trace that,
prove that this foreign money in the campaign, they can
remove Mom Donnie. He can be taken away, can even
be indicted. Some think he'll never serve as mayor even
if he wins that they'll get him on that stuff
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and take him out of the picture legally. Just take
him away legally. And the only other thing is there
are Justice Department officials who have said if he becomes mayor,
if he does anything to the Jewish community, if he
does anything wrong, then the Justice Department officials have said
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they will come here and arrest him for a hate crime.
So you got that going on, But we'll see, we'll
take some calls in a minute. Eight hundred three two
one zero seven ten is the number if you want
to say, what if you watch the debate, you got
an opinion? Eight hundred three two one zero seven ten