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October 23, 2025 • 15 mins
Andrew Cuomo outperformed in last night's NYC mayoral debate, with all candidates exchanging tough challenges.

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Now on the Voice of New York Case the Mark
Simone Show on seven to ten. Wor Well, it quite
a mayre Old debate last night. We will get to that.
We'll go over in great detail. We'll get to the
latest meltdown from the Democrats, the trumped arrangement syndrome has

(00:22):
them going nuts over the White House ballroom. This is
but the weirdest, most bizarre meltdown they've had so far.
We'll get to Ice in New York, and we'll get
to Robert de Niro and a whole lot more coming up.
Last night's debate was much better than the first debate.

(00:42):
It was New York one, which most people don't see,
and it was Errol Lewis as the most biased, the
left wing guy in the world. Everybody thinking he should
have accused himself. But he was good, he behaved himself
and he was better than those Channel four moderators. He
let people talk, so good job. And then the other
one was a de Brian Lear. It's very very left wing,

(01:05):
the sort of guys doing this, but they were good,
they behaved themselves and it was a well done debate.
Now who won the debate, Well, Curtis was the best.
There was no question about that. If he just went
on content, Curtis clearly way ahead of him. But but
a lot of people think Clomo won the debate because

(01:27):
he's usually terrible in debates. He's not a good debater,
and he stinks in these debates. In the first two
debates he had with Mom Donnie, the primary debates, he
was just awful. But last night he surprised everybody. Was
pretty good in the debate. He wasn't as good as
Curtis on content, but in style and confidence, he's learning

(01:48):
to talk a little faster. Last night he surprised everybody,
and some analysts actually think he won, even though Curtis
was better and content wise, he won by not stinking,
by actually holding his own with Mom Donnie. Curtis had
the best lines in the debate.

Speaker 2 (02:07):
I get a good belly laughs. All right, I'll keep practicing.
I get a good belly laugh every.

Speaker 3 (02:13):
Time I hear you say free fair in the subways.

Speaker 2 (02:15):
Half the people don't pay anyway. How about fair enforcement.

Speaker 1 (02:20):
Now, the problem with these debates, it's three people. If
it were two debates, you know, you think back to
Hillary and Trump, you think back to the one debate
that absolutely turned a race around that was Reagan against Carter.
Reagan was on track to lose. He just wiped out
Carter in that debate and it was but the key
to that was it was two people. It was one

(02:42):
on one. When you put three people in there, it
changes the whole mix. And the moderators were very careful
to try to keep the spotlight off Curtis. They focused
on Cuomo. They focused on Mom Donnie as if they
were the two major party candidates. Remember it's Cuomo who's
the third party candidate. It's Sliwa he was the major
party candidate. He's the Republican candidate. Mam Donney's the Democratic candidate.

(03:05):
Should have been the two of them head to head.
They put Cuomo in even though he's a third party candidate,
because he's high in the polls. But it kind of
screws up the debate for Curtis. You don't get either.
They just tried not to give him too much time.
But every time they went to him, he was great
content wise, position wise, issues wise, most voters would agree
with Curtis, so on content he won. But Cuomo surprised everybody,

(03:28):
but not being as bad as he usually is in debates.
He's more a Curtis.

Speaker 3 (03:31):
I've taken this subway almost every day of my life
since I was five. The worst time was the summer
of twenty seventeen, the summer of hell.

Speaker 2 (03:39):
Angewel Cuomo, when you were running.

Speaker 3 (03:42):
The subway, says, stuff us ahead of.

Speaker 2 (03:44):
The I don't trust you with anything.

Speaker 1 (03:47):
Well that's a good point. I don't know how much
that registered with everybody. But when Cuomo was governor, the
governor runs the subways. The MTA is controlled by the governor.
It's his chairman. He has the most seats on the board.
In twenty seventeen, Cuomo screwed up the subways. I don't
know if you remember that, but all the subways were
late trains camp. It was a real mess. The reason

(04:10):
for that is he was trying to score political points
with the subway by putting all the money into new cars,
new trains. Remember you would depose with the look at
this new train car, state of the art car. What
He completely screwed up the subway system by using it
as a piggy bank to take money out of there.
So they didn't have enough money, and it got so bad,

(04:32):
and the outcry was so huge. He had a beg
Joe Loader to come back. The old MTA commissioner, who's
the best guy at fixing the subways. He came back
right away and I talked to him privately about it.
He told me the real problem when you drain the
money out of there, use it as a piggy bank
for other projects. They're not spending the money where it
needs to be spent. You don't want to spend it

(04:53):
on new subway cars. It's not what you need most
important thing, pumps, switches, fans, the things that make the
trains run, for the little stuff. So Loda put that
all back. It took a few months, but he got
the subways back to normal. But Cuomo did screw it
up back then. He made a lot of disastrous moves
as governor. That's the problem now. The opening of the debate

(05:14):
was great, Mam Donnie, really, Mam Donnie. As summer argument
didn't have a great night because he had to be
evasive on a lot of things, some of his more
controversial stuff. So he was evasive a lot through the debate.
But he's slick, and he's a fast talker, and you
talk really fast, people might not notice how evasive you are.
But he really went after Cuomo.

Speaker 4 (05:32):
Andrew Cuomo will spend much of tonight attacking me. He's
a desperate man, lashing out because he knows that the
one thing he's always cared about, power is now slipping
away from him.

Speaker 1 (05:42):
Yeah. Well yeah, If he doesn't win this, I don't
know where he goes next. Of course, they kept hitting you,
Mam Donnie on experience.

Speaker 2 (05:50):
I did see this.

Speaker 5 (05:52):
You have never had a job, You've never accomplished anything.
There's no reason to believe you have any merit or
qualify ocasion for eight and.

Speaker 2 (06:01):
A half million lives.

Speaker 6 (06:03):
You don't know how to run a government, you don't
know how to handle an emergency.

Speaker 4 (06:07):
The issue is that we have all experienced your experience.
The issue is that we experienced you take me five
million dollar book deal while you sent seniors to their
deaths and nursing homes.

Speaker 1 (06:18):
Yeah, that's the problem with Cuomo's argument. He was good
last night. But when you say, you know, you gotta
have experience, what if there's a health crisis, Well, we
had one with Cuomo and he was terrible. He was awful.
He killed people in the nursing homes, and you know,
when it comes to crime, he really screwed up our
criminal system with his no bail, no jail and all
that stuffy. But he's right about mom, Donnie. We've never

(06:39):
ever ever elected somebody who's twelve years old, only been
a citizen five minutes, never had a job. It's unheard of.
As Curtis said last night.

Speaker 3 (06:47):
Sure on your resume could fit on a cocktail, napkin
and angel. Your failures could fill a public school library
in New York City.

Speaker 1 (07:00):
That's a good point. But it was quite a debate.
Trump was an issue for somehow in this debate.

Speaker 4 (07:05):
I will fight him every single step of the way.

Speaker 2 (07:07):
He has no respect for him.

Speaker 6 (07:08):
He thinks he's a kid, and he's gonna knock him
on his tookas.

Speaker 1 (07:12):
Yeah. So, but Curtis got very emotional at some point.
You know, Mamdani obviously would stink on crime. We saw
Cuomo was really bad on crime as governor, the no bail,
no jail, the closing the prisons, the taking away the
qualified immunity from cops. So Curtis got very emotional there.

Speaker 3 (07:31):
So how can both of you look at me? I
almost launched my oldest son to gang violence. And the
perpetrators went to family court and got a little pet
on the wrist and was sent home to do it
again and again.

Speaker 1 (07:45):
Yeah. I mean, it's a great moments in that debate.
If you haven't seen it, it's on YouTube, you can
you can go watch it. There as more on Trump,
and we first.

Speaker 4 (07:54):
Just heard from the Republican candidate for mayor, and then
we heard from Donald Trump's puppet himself, Andrew Cuomo. You
could turn on TV any day of the week and
you will hear Donald Trump share that his pick for
mayor is Andrew Cuomo. And he wants Andrew Cuomo to
be the mayor, not because it will be good for
New Yorkers, but because it will be good for him.

Speaker 1 (08:13):
Yeah. Now, Trump's not an Andrew Cuomo fan, but he
just doesn't like Curtis. He's never like Curtis. He doesn't
like Curtis. He's also remember he's far away. He's not
here in New York watching everything day and night. He's
in Washington. He's president. He's very busy, so he's not
real up close on this election. But he just thinks

(08:35):
Cuomo's the better shot, and that's why he's been pushing Cuomo.
And when you see these guys out there like Bill
Ackman and these other billionaires. Bill Ackman's a good example.
They're all out there fighting for Cuomo. The reason is
this is Trump. Trump is using them to do this.
Trump is on the phone with guys like Bill Ackman
day and night. He's had them come down to Washington
for lunch, for dinner. He's pressuring them like crazy to

(08:58):
get Curtis out of the do everything they can, and
they're doing this. They're really going crazy trying to get
Curtis out. It's not because they care that much about
the about Cuomo. It's just they want to ingratiate themselves
with Trump. They needs other stuff from Trump. So he's
been really pushing them, really pushing them for weeks now.
From what I've heard last night and the night before

(09:20):
in conversations, he's starting to admit and in fact, earlier
this week he started admitting, I don't know if Cuomo's
not a great candidate. I don't know if Cuomo can't
do it. So he might be easing the pressure on
these guys, but we'll see again. Cuomo had a good
night last night. Good night. He was strong in the debate.

Speaker 4 (09:37):
And I also know that the jobs we create in
the building of that housing should be good jobs as well.

Speaker 2 (09:43):
Answer, what is your opinion?

Speaker 7 (09:45):
Job?

Speaker 2 (09:46):
Come on, yes, what is your opinion? Yes? No?

Speaker 7 (09:52):
True?

Speaker 2 (09:53):
Don't be a politician here, I got it. They're pointing
out what I was about to the question.

Speaker 6 (10:00):
My question to you was do you support the three
ballid amendment questions?

Speaker 4 (10:05):
I have not yet taken a position on those ballot question.

Speaker 2 (10:08):
What a shock.

Speaker 1 (10:09):
Now that was the problem a few times, several times
on a ballot issue or some issue, he just wouldn't
take a position. Now in New York you got things
like New York one or Channel four that they're the
most left wing, bias slanted. So the problem is they
won't be all over him. They should be following him
around demanding he said he needs to think about it.

(10:30):
They should be demanding you think about it and give
him an answer. They should be all over the campaign
demanding an answer. But again they're very slanted. They won't
do it.

Speaker 4 (10:39):
Here's what he says, that taking five years to build
affordable housing is the sign of an incompetent government. By
his own words, that means he must have led an
incompetent government.

Speaker 6 (10:48):
The governor doesn't build housing in New York City, not
if it's you.

Speaker 1 (10:53):
It's a good point, you know, if the problem is
lack of housing, if the problem is affordability, well, Democrats
been running the whole place for fifteen years. They've been
controlling the legislature or the city Council, the mayor's office,
city Hall, the governors. They controlled everything. So if it's
such a crisis, get rid of them, get another party,
try somebody else.

Speaker 2 (11:12):
There are jurisdictions.

Speaker 6 (11:15):
The governor doesn't pick up trash, he doesn't run the
fire department.

Speaker 2 (11:18):
That's what the mayor does.

Speaker 6 (11:19):
The mayor bills housing, the state allocates funding for localities,
and I allocated more funding for housing than any governor
in the history of the.

Speaker 2 (11:29):
State of New York.

Speaker 1 (11:31):
Yeah, you know, but again he yells all this stuff.
But if that's the case, how come we have such
a crisis.

Speaker 5 (11:37):
You have never had a job, you've never accomplished anything.
There's no reason to believe you have any merit or
qualification for eight and.

Speaker 2 (11:46):
A half million lives.

Speaker 5 (11:48):
You don't know how to run a government, you don't
know how to handle.

Speaker 6 (11:50):
An emergency, and you've literally never proposed a bill on
anything that you're now talking about in your campaign.

Speaker 1 (11:58):
All right, but so you hear that Cuomo was good
last night. He had a good debate. He was very good.
Not like the slow talker from the first debates in
the primary, he just was awful against Mom Donnie. Mam
Donnie just wiped him out. But he was good last night.
He had a good night. So we'll see if that doesn't.
You know, one of the big problems with this race,
we haven't had any polling at all. You know, you

(12:19):
see it sometimes in the news, you'll see some poll.
It's just some junk poll, some college pole, some tiny
polling company, nobody ever heard of. These aren't These are
totally worthless. These polls. I wouldn't trust them for a second.
A couple of them done by Cuomo people disguised, you know,
as somebody else, but I wouldn't. So we have never
had any real polling in the last few weeks, and

(12:40):
we've had no polling after the first debate or the
second debate, so we really don't know anything. Kind of
flying blind, So we'll see what happened. You know, what's interesting,
all the people that are pushing Cuomo. You know, the
Bill Ackman gotta get Cuomo. We can't have down. We got.
They don't like Cuomo at all. You don't think much
of them. They don't think he'd be great. It's just

(13:00):
that they hate Mam Donnie. They just think Mom Donnie
is so bad. We'll settle. We'll settle for Cuomo, who
you can't stand. And Cuomo was on the morning show
this morning here at w R. He was here and
he admitted to that. Listen to him, talk to Larry Mente.
He actually admitted, nobody really likes him. They just hate
Mam Donni Moore.

Speaker 7 (13:20):
If you're saying you will only vote for me because
you dislike Zoron Moore, it's not flattering.

Speaker 1 (13:33):
Yeah, well there you go, no kidding. Anyway, we got
we'll get back to the mirror debate. Well, we've got
lots to say about it. We'll get to that. We'll
get to we'll get to the ballroom meltdown. It's hysterical
this and it's a silly thing for Democrats. They're going
crazy over the ballroom. You know, they destroyed the East Wing,

(13:59):
they're taking down part of the but they'll put it
right back with a ballroom attached to it. And I
don't know why they're doing this because it's not like
the federal government building. And if the government built it,
this ballroom would take ten fifteen years. This is Trump
building it. He'll have it finished in four or five months,
and it will look magnificent. It will looks so beautiful

(14:19):
that you'll sound nuts that you were complaining about it.
You know, you know what's in the East wing. You know,
you saw they knocked down the wall and half the
East wing. You know what that was. You know what's
in the East wing? Nothing? Really, it's it does have
the first Lady's office in it, but that's two three rooms.
You know, you can move that to somewhere else in
the building very easily. But what's the big stuff in
the east wing. The biggest thing in there is the

(14:41):
calligraphy office. Seriously, it's a big, huge calligraphy center and
that's where they do the place cards for the dinner
and the invitations. So that's what got knocked out there.
But this is nothing. This construction nothing compared to what's
been done in the White House before nineteen forty eight,
Truman gutted the entire White House literally gutted it. All

(15:06):
that was left was the exterior walls. They gutted the
entire White House and rebuilt it. So but there's a
million check out my Twitter. There's a picture up there
of like twelve different times, twelve different presidents where you
see massive wrecking balls and cranes tearing up parts of
the White House. Done all the time. But anyway, we'll
get back to that. We'll take some calls in a minute.
Eight hundred three two one zero seven ten is the number.

(15:29):
Eight hundred three two one zero seven ten.
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