December 16, 2025 • 16 mins
Mark gives us the latest breaking news updates on the murder of actor Rob Reiner and his wife. Their son, Nick Reiner, appears in court today, charged with their murders.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Now this is the Mark Simon Show on seven tenor wow,
this ought to be interesting. We'll get to Rob Reiner
in great detail. We'll get to President Trump's attack on
Rob Reiner. Why did he do it? Why did he
have to do that? How could he do such a thing. Well,
we'll get to all that coming up. We'll get to
(00:21):
White House Chief of Staff Susie Wiles, who usually stays
way below the radar. I don't know why, gave a
big interview to Vanity Fair and it's causing all kinds
of controversy. We'll get to that. We'll get to Howard
Stern he announced he staying but with about one hundred
asterisks on that. We'll get to Bruce Blakeman running for governor.
(00:42):
We'll get to We've got a lot to get to.
Curtis will be with us a little later. Can't wait
to hear what he's got to say about everything. So
here's what we know. More stuff coming out every hour
about the whole Rob Reiner situation. You know, the he
was murdered Sunday afternoon about three o'clock, and that night
(01:09):
he was he and his wife were supposed to have
dinner with Michelle and Barack Obama. They were supposed to
have dinner that night, and that's quite a I don't
mean a group be gruesome, but you know, sometimes you
get a call, Hey, we're gonna have to cancel, not
feeling well or something like that. But to get a
(01:33):
call have to cancel, what's the matter, Well they're dead?
What dad throat slit? They can't come to dinner. I mean,
what a shock that must have been. Now all sorts
of stuff is coming out as we know now it
looks like it's Nick Reiner the Sun. The night before,
(01:56):
there's a big Christmas party thrown by Conan O'Brien, and
I don't know why Rob Righter and his wife are
going to the party. They brought a couple of the kids.
I don't know why they brought the son Nick or
why he was there, because everybody said he clearly didn't
fit in, didn't want to be there. It was, you know,
a nice, fancy Christmas party with everybody dressed up, and
(02:18):
Nick Ryner shows up with a hoodie. You know, it's
like a sweatsuit and a hoodie with the hood up
over his head, looking very very out of place. Also,
in the middle of the crowd, looking very angry, like
he didn't want to be there. He didn't like this,
He resented this, and whenever he would look at anybody
(02:39):
or talk to him, it was always with an angry look.
And he they said, some people he went around said
are you famous? Are you famous? So he just you know,
for a kid with all kinds of mental problems to
be in a very agitated state and to be in
this room was a little bizarre. And then at some
point he got into a fight with his and just
(03:00):
freaked out completely and starts yelling and screaming, and the
father starts yelling and screaming back. And this is in
the middle of the party. I mean, it was a
very loud, screaming argument that went on for a long time,
freaking out everybody else in the party. So at some
(03:21):
point the kid left, and then Rob Reiner and his wife,
realizing they had totally ruined the party and upset everybody,
they left as well. Now we now know that the
kid left the party and did something. For a few hours.
He was living, apparently in a guest house on the
(03:41):
Rob Reiner estate. On the compound, there's a guest house.
He was living there, but he may have gone back
there to get some things, but he didn't stay there. Instead,
later that night, in the middle of the night, actually
about four in the morning, he checked into a motel
in Santa Monica. So he left Brent Would went to
Santa Monica. Checked into this hotel at about four in
(04:03):
the morning. The staff thought that he looked a little well,
let's just say, wound up a little nutty. But you
know who checks into a Hollywood hotel at four in
the morning, but a nutty looking guy in a hoodie.
So he checked in and then it was the next day.
He was still probably all crazed over the fight, whatever
(04:24):
that was. The next day, went back to Rob Reiner's house,
had an extremely loud argument. The daughter could hear it
from she was also living in another guest house on
the property. She could hear the argument and it went
on for a while, and then I guess it stopped,
and that's why she decided to go check on her
parents and she found them dead. Imagine the daughter goes
(04:50):
and finds them dead, their throat slit, blood everywhere, was
just awful. She immediately calls the police. And then I
didn't realize it were really really the family was really
close to Billy Crystal and his wife. So as soon
as she calls the police and hangs up, she then
immediately calls Billy Crystal and tells him what's happened. He
(05:12):
and his wife jump in the car and race over
to Rob Reiner's house and get there about the same
time as the police. So they came in as the
police are getting there. So Billy Crystal and his wife
as they come in, see the bodies on the floor,
the throat slit, the blood, every it must have been
just horrifying. And that's why reporters said when they saw
(05:33):
Billy Crystal come out of the house, he and his
wife were very shaken up. We're crying and so imagine
this is your close friend. You see the bodies like that.
So the police are there, a huge response from the
police department, and then she, the daughter, tells them, you
got to look at the sun. He's crazy. He's got
a history of violent, crazy behavior, and they've had a
(05:54):
big fight. I heard fighting. She tells me to look
for him. They go look for him. It took a
while to find him. They finally released the pictures of
them arresting him. I think he was at a train
station or a bus station. They find him, arrest him.
You can see a picture of him being thrown to
the ground and handcuffed and then pushed up against the
car frisked, I guess, and then they throw him in
(06:16):
the car. He's a troubled kid. He's been in rehab
over seventeen times since the age of fifteen. They've talked
before about whether or not he was a danger, and
you know, experts will tell you that these kind of situations,
the family never fully understands the danger. They always underestimate
(06:40):
the violent danger of the kid.
Speaker 2 (06:42):
This doesn't just start the day before yesterday, so there
was ongoing issues between them. And when I've seen cases
like this in the past, oftentimes the family underestimates the
potential of their loved one in terms of what they
could do to them. But I think we're going to
see the patterns begin to come to the surface over time,
(07:06):
because that is a lot of anger. That's a lot
of rage. It doesn't just start on the night of
the attack.
Speaker 1 (07:11):
So the police find out the kid, Nick Reiner, was
in a hotel room. They go to the hotel and
they find the hotel room is got blood everywhere, there's
blood on the sheets. There's blood everywhere in this hotel room.
And he had taken some sheets and put them up
over the window to cover the windows, and then there's
blood all over the hotel room. Now, what could you
(07:32):
be doing in there that would cause all this blood?
He might say, Well, when he was stabbing his mother
and father, he might have gotten blood all over him,
But when he checked in, they didn't see blood all
over him. So who knows what he did in that
room to cause all that blood to be everywhere. The
kid obviously completely psycho, just literally just a raging maniac.
(07:55):
So he's under arrest, he's in custody. He's on suicide
watch right now. Believe he's suicidal. He's being held in isolation.
He's now being Originally there was bail, he's now being
held without bail. There is no bail, and he's on
suicide watch. Rob Reiner, the friend's family, they say they
(08:16):
family did everything they could for this kid. The problem is,
I don't think they fully understood how dangerous the situation
was and that they probably had to have this kid
committed in some kind of mental institution. But when you're
wealthy in hollywoodish you know, sometimes you're you're not really
very realistic about things, and to let this kid live,
(08:39):
you know, in your guest house and let him just
be free in but somebody should have realized this kid
needed to be committed. I mean, obviously now we know
he needed to be committed. So but they said they
spared no expense in trying to rehabilitate them countless facilities.
But you know, sometimes these these are these Hollywood rehabs.
(09:01):
Then aren't that great? You know, you see everybody that
goes to these Hollywood rehab centers, every Charlie Sheen type.
Have you ever seen anybody actually cured? Not really, not
a lot. So it's just a horrible situation. Now, Rob Reiner,
he was great and all in the family. You know,
you go back check out my Twitter, there's some clips
(09:21):
up there, but you can see there were moments of
really great acting there. Then he goes on to be
a director. I think Spinal Tap was first, but when
you look back on his history as a director, producer
making films, it's an incredible career. He was just brilliant
at it, brilliant at it. Misery A few good men.
(09:42):
When Harry met Sally I mean, he was incredible a
director and producer, great, great talent, and you got to
give him credit. For Seinfeld, it was his company castle Rock,
which you named it after a town in Maine. Castle
Rock produced signed and nobody remembers this. But Seinfeld didn't
(10:03):
do very well the first couple of years, and after
the first year, NBC was going to cancel it, and
Jerry Seinfeld said, he owes everything to Rob Reiner. Rob
Reiner went to NBC and yelled and screamed and cried
and pleaded and begged for them to give Seinfeld another season,
give it another chance. It'll come together, and it worked.
(10:23):
He kept it on the air. They were going to
cancel it the first season. Second season they were going
to cancel. It was Rob Reiner that went and fought
and screamed apparently got in a huge screaming fights with
NBC president Brandon Tartakoff, and he kept Seinfeld on the air.
And Seinfeld yesterday said, I it wasn't for Rob Reiner,
it wouldn't have happened. Seinfeld wouldn't have happened. Now he
(10:45):
turned out to be right. Seinfeld went on to be
the biggest show in television for seven eight years. It
went on to be the biggest show in syndication, making
over a billion dollars. Everybody made a fortune, and one
of the guys that made some of that money was
Steve Bannon. Believe it or not, an unknown Steve Bannon
at the time, who had come from Goldman Sachs, was
(11:06):
one of the investors in Castle Rock, and then when
they sold Castle Rock, he advised people to keep a
percentage of the show, and they gave him a percentage.
So to this day, Steve Bannon makes a lot of
money in payments off the syndication of Seinfeld, which always
upset the hell out of Rob Reiner. Drove nuts that
(11:29):
Bannon was profiting from this. There are other people. James
Woods was on TV last night talking about how when
his career was over, he was finished. It was Rob
Reiner that believed in him gave him a part in
a movie. Studio said absolutely not, that guy's washed up. Again.
Rob Reiner went and fought for him, got him the part,
and he ended up getting an Academy Award nomination for it. So,
(11:52):
I mean, Rob Reiner's father was the same way. You know,
the Dick Van Dyke Show was canceled after the first year.
At that time it was the greatest went on to
be the greatest sitcom of the early sixties, but it
was canceled after the first year. Carl Reiner got on
a plane flew to Ohio to meet with the sponsor.
It wasn't Johnson and Johnson, one of the big big
(12:15):
companies was the sponsor. He went and saw them, burst
into their office, yelled and screamed, begged and pleaded, and
somehow convinced him to just give it one more season,
and sure enough it went on to become huge. So
Rob Reiner must have remembered all that did the same
thing for Seinfeld. And if you watch the Dick Van
Dyke Show, it's about the comedy writer of the big
(12:37):
variety TV show who lives in Newest Shell and he's
got a son. Well, that was Rob Reiner. Carl Reiner
wrote that show based on his real life, and that
was Rob Reiner. Grew up in the same kind of
house with the Rob Petrie and Newest Schell at that time.
His father was actually Carl Reiner and he was writing
for Sid Caesar. But it's an amazing story. Now, this
(13:02):
is a horrible tragedy, the most awful tragedy imaginable. And
then President Trump tweets out I don't have in front
of me, but he just said Rob Reiner was a deranged,
you know, maniac with Trump derangement syndrome. He was spewing
hatred all the time. You know. He said basically something
about the hateful energy they put out, the hate, the
(13:25):
rage must have infected other people around him. Now, you're
not supposed to do that in a tragedy like this.
You're the president of the United States. You're supposed to
be very, very, very gracious. But that's not Donald Trump. Now,
if for me, I would have been gracious about it,
or I would have just let it go, not say it.
(13:46):
But that's not Donald Trump. So it upset a lot
of people that he attacked Rob Reiner in death. But yeah,
of course saw the Hollywood people tweeting furiously all night
about how Trump is obviously and this is one of them,
said the twenty fifth Amendment. CNN, MSNBC and even Fox,
(14:07):
Fox News panels, you know, totally denounced Trump for doing that,
and they're right, they're not wrong. I mean, Fox is
a classic place. They would never do anything like that.
I would never do anything like that. But that's Donald Trump.
That's what he does, that's what he's always done, that's
what he'll continue to do. For a number of reasons. One,
he has absolutely no filter. He will always say what
(14:30):
he really thinks. Now, if you do that in this situation, boy,
it's gonna be the You're gonna get bombarded. But he
also loves to be the lead story of the day.
And with this Rob Reiner stuff, you know, nobody would
think of him. It would just all be about Robert.
So he puts himself right back on top of the
of the news. That's one reason he does it. Again,
(14:54):
it's not right to do it. I wouldn't do it,
but I understand why he does it. And you know,
you can't say, hey, don't do this, don't do that.
The guy's the most successful guy in the world. Who's
to tell him what to do? And I've seen this before.
You know, a lot of Trump is based on Frank Sinatra.
He was a big studier of Frank Sinatra. I used
to talk to him about this years ago. Sinatra techniques, methods,
(15:17):
the way that was Sinatra. So who had no filter,
he would and he Sinatra was in the same situation.
Earlier in his career, there was a guy named Lee Mortimer.
He was the biggest columnist and he wrote the most
vicious things about Frank Sinatra. Vicious. He tried to tie
him to the mob. That's where actually all that mafia
stuff started from Lee Mortimer's columns. He tried to get
(15:39):
the guy just, you know, just totally disavowed by Holly.
I mean, nobody went after more than this columnist, Lee Mortimer.
Sinatra saw on was in a restaurant and punched him
right in the face and was put on trial. He
was actually convicted of assault, but Sinatra was so powerful
that he managed to avoid jail. Instead, he had a
(16:00):
pay a fifteen thousand dollars fine, which was a fortune
back then, and for the rest of his life, Sinatra
carried in his pocket a certified check for fifteen thousand dollars.
He said, if I ever see that guy, I'm gonna
punch him again and hand him the check. But years later,
Lee Mortimer died and he was a big columnist in America.
(16:23):
Said there was a huge funeral, and Sinatra didn't go
to the funeral. But later that night, at about two
in the morning. He brought a lot of friends to
the cemetery in the dark, in the middle of the night.
He wanted them to watch as he pissed on the
grave of Lee Mortimer. So that's Trump, that's Sinatra. There's
a lot of similarities. They just there was nothing phony
(16:45):
in these guys. They just couldn't do it. Hey, well,
take some calls. Next eight hundred three to two one
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two one zero seven ten.
Now this is the Mark Simon Show on seven tenor wow,
this ought to be interesting. We'll get to Rob Reiner
in great detail. We'll get to President Trump's attack on
Rob Reiner. Why did he do it? Why did he
have to do that? How could he do such a thing. Well,
we'll get to all that coming up. We'll get to
(00:21):
White House Chief of Staff Susie Wiles, who usually stays
way below the radar. I don't know why, gave a
big interview to Vanity Fair and it's causing all kinds
of controversy. We'll get to that. We'll get to Howard
Stern he announced he staying but with about one hundred
asterisks on that. We'll get to Bruce Blakeman running for governor.
(00:42):
We'll get to We've got a lot to get to.
Curtis will be with us a little later. Can't wait
to hear what he's got to say about everything. So
here's what we know. More stuff coming out every hour
about the whole Rob Reiner situation. You know, the he
was murdered Sunday afternoon about three o'clock, and that night
(01:09):
he was he and his wife were supposed to have
dinner with Michelle and Barack Obama. They were supposed to
have dinner that night, and that's quite a I don't
mean a group be gruesome, but you know, sometimes you
get a call, Hey, we're gonna have to cancel, not
feeling well or something like that. But to get a
(01:33):
call have to cancel, what's the matter, Well they're dead?
What dad throat slit? They can't come to dinner. I mean,
what a shock that must have been. Now all sorts
of stuff is coming out as we know now it
looks like it's Nick Reiner the Sun. The night before,
(01:56):
there's a big Christmas party thrown by Conan O'Brien, and
I don't know why Rob Righter and his wife are
going to the party. They brought a couple of the kids.
I don't know why they brought the son Nick or
why he was there, because everybody said he clearly didn't
fit in, didn't want to be there. It was, you know,
a nice, fancy Christmas party with everybody dressed up, and
(02:18):
Nick Ryner shows up with a hoodie. You know, it's
like a sweatsuit and a hoodie with the hood up
over his head, looking very very out of place. Also,
in the middle of the crowd, looking very angry, like
he didn't want to be there. He didn't like this,
He resented this, and whenever he would look at anybody
(02:39):
or talk to him, it was always with an angry look.
And he they said, some people he went around said
are you famous? Are you famous? So he just you know,
for a kid with all kinds of mental problems to
be in a very agitated state and to be in
this room was a little bizarre. And then at some
point he got into a fight with his and just
(03:00):
freaked out completely and starts yelling and screaming, and the
father starts yelling and screaming back. And this is in
the middle of the party. I mean, it was a
very loud, screaming argument that went on for a long time,
freaking out everybody else in the party. So at some
(03:21):
point the kid left, and then Rob Reiner and his wife,
realizing they had totally ruined the party and upset everybody,
they left as well. Now we now know that the
kid left the party and did something. For a few hours.
He was living, apparently in a guest house on the
(03:41):
Rob Reiner estate. On the compound, there's a guest house.
He was living there, but he may have gone back
there to get some things, but he didn't stay there. Instead,
later that night, in the middle of the night, actually
about four in the morning, he checked into a motel
in Santa Monica. So he left Brent Would went to
Santa Monica. Checked into this hotel at about four in
(04:03):
the morning. The staff thought that he looked a little well,
let's just say, wound up a little nutty. But you
know who checks into a Hollywood hotel at four in
the morning, but a nutty looking guy in a hoodie.
So he checked in and then it was the next day.
He was still probably all crazed over the fight, whatever
(04:24):
that was. The next day, went back to Rob Reiner's house,
had an extremely loud argument. The daughter could hear it
from she was also living in another guest house on
the property. She could hear the argument and it went
on for a while, and then I guess it stopped,
and that's why she decided to go check on her
parents and she found them dead. Imagine the daughter goes
(04:50):
and finds them dead, their throat slit, blood everywhere, was
just awful. She immediately calls the police. And then I
didn't realize it were really really the family was really
close to Billy Crystal and his wife. So as soon
as she calls the police and hangs up, she then
immediately calls Billy Crystal and tells him what's happened. He
(05:12):
and his wife jump in the car and race over
to Rob Reiner's house and get there about the same
time as the police. So they came in as the
police are getting there. So Billy Crystal and his wife
as they come in, see the bodies on the floor,
the throat slit, the blood, every it must have been
just horrifying. And that's why reporters said when they saw
(05:33):
Billy Crystal come out of the house, he and his
wife were very shaken up. We're crying and so imagine
this is your close friend. You see the bodies like that.
So the police are there, a huge response from the
police department, and then she, the daughter, tells them, you
got to look at the sun. He's crazy. He's got
a history of violent, crazy behavior, and they've had a
(05:54):
big fight. I heard fighting. She tells me to look
for him. They go look for him. It took a
while to find him. They finally released the pictures of
them arresting him. I think he was at a train
station or a bus station. They find him, arrest him.
You can see a picture of him being thrown to
the ground and handcuffed and then pushed up against the
car frisked, I guess, and then they throw him in
(06:16):
the car. He's a troubled kid. He's been in rehab
over seventeen times since the age of fifteen. They've talked
before about whether or not he was a danger, and
you know, experts will tell you that these kind of situations,
the family never fully understands the danger. They always underestimate
(06:40):
the violent danger of the kid.
Speaker 2 (06:42):
This doesn't just start the day before yesterday, so there
was ongoing issues between them. And when I've seen cases
like this in the past, oftentimes the family underestimates the
potential of their loved one in terms of what they
could do to them. But I think we're going to
see the patterns begin to come to the surface over time,
(07:06):
because that is a lot of anger. That's a lot
of rage. It doesn't just start on the night of
the attack.
Speaker 1 (07:11):
So the police find out the kid, Nick Reiner, was
in a hotel room. They go to the hotel and
they find the hotel room is got blood everywhere, there's
blood on the sheets. There's blood everywhere in this hotel room.
And he had taken some sheets and put them up
over the window to cover the windows, and then there's
blood all over the hotel room. Now, what could you
(07:32):
be doing in there that would cause all this blood?
He might say, Well, when he was stabbing his mother
and father, he might have gotten blood all over him,
But when he checked in, they didn't see blood all
over him. So who knows what he did in that
room to cause all that blood to be everywhere. The
kid obviously completely psycho, just literally just a raging maniac.
(07:55):
So he's under arrest, he's in custody. He's on suicide
watch right now. Believe he's suicidal. He's being held in isolation.
He's now being Originally there was bail, he's now being
held without bail. There is no bail, and he's on
suicide watch. Rob Reiner, the friend's family, they say they
(08:16):
family did everything they could for this kid. The problem is,
I don't think they fully understood how dangerous the situation
was and that they probably had to have this kid
committed in some kind of mental institution. But when you're
wealthy in hollywoodish you know, sometimes you're you're not really
very realistic about things, and to let this kid live,
(08:39):
you know, in your guest house and let him just
be free in but somebody should have realized this kid
needed to be committed. I mean, obviously now we know
he needed to be committed. So but they said they
spared no expense in trying to rehabilitate them countless facilities.
But you know, sometimes these these are these Hollywood rehabs.
(09:01):
Then aren't that great? You know, you see everybody that
goes to these Hollywood rehab centers, every Charlie Sheen type.
Have you ever seen anybody actually cured? Not really, not
a lot. So it's just a horrible situation. Now, Rob Reiner,
he was great and all in the family. You know,
you go back check out my Twitter, there's some clips
(09:21):
up there, but you can see there were moments of
really great acting there. Then he goes on to be
a director. I think Spinal Tap was first, but when
you look back on his history as a director, producer
making films, it's an incredible career. He was just brilliant
at it, brilliant at it. Misery A few good men.
(09:42):
When Harry met Sally I mean, he was incredible a
director and producer, great, great talent, and you got to
give him credit. For Seinfeld, it was his company castle Rock,
which you named it after a town in Maine. Castle
Rock produced signed and nobody remembers this. But Seinfeld didn't
(10:03):
do very well the first couple of years, and after
the first year, NBC was going to cancel it, and
Jerry Seinfeld said, he owes everything to Rob Reiner. Rob
Reiner went to NBC and yelled and screamed and cried
and pleaded and begged for them to give Seinfeld another season,
give it another chance. It'll come together, and it worked.
(10:23):
He kept it on the air. They were going to
cancel it the first season. Second season they were going
to cancel. It was Rob Reiner that went and fought
and screamed apparently got in a huge screaming fights with
NBC president Brandon Tartakoff, and he kept Seinfeld on the air.
And Seinfeld yesterday said, I it wasn't for Rob Reiner,
it wouldn't have happened. Seinfeld wouldn't have happened. Now he
(10:45):
turned out to be right. Seinfeld went on to be
the biggest show in television for seven eight years. It
went on to be the biggest show in syndication, making
over a billion dollars. Everybody made a fortune, and one
of the guys that made some of that money was
Steve Bannon. Believe it or not, an unknown Steve Bannon
at the time, who had come from Goldman Sachs, was
(11:06):
one of the investors in Castle Rock, and then when
they sold Castle Rock, he advised people to keep a
percentage of the show, and they gave him a percentage.
So to this day, Steve Bannon makes a lot of
money in payments off the syndication of Seinfeld, which always
upset the hell out of Rob Reiner. Drove nuts that
(11:29):
Bannon was profiting from this. There are other people. James
Woods was on TV last night talking about how when
his career was over, he was finished. It was Rob
Reiner that believed in him gave him a part in
a movie. Studio said absolutely not, that guy's washed up. Again.
Rob Reiner went and fought for him, got him the part,
and he ended up getting an Academy Award nomination for it. So,
(11:52):
I mean, Rob Reiner's father was the same way. You know,
the Dick Van Dyke Show was canceled after the first year.
At that time it was the greatest went on to
be the greatest sitcom of the early sixties, but it
was canceled after the first year. Carl Reiner got on
a plane flew to Ohio to meet with the sponsor.
It wasn't Johnson and Johnson, one of the big big
(12:15):
companies was the sponsor. He went and saw them, burst
into their office, yelled and screamed, begged and pleaded, and
somehow convinced him to just give it one more season,
and sure enough it went on to become huge. So
Rob Reiner must have remembered all that did the same
thing for Seinfeld. And if you watch the Dick Van
Dyke Show, it's about the comedy writer of the big
(12:37):
variety TV show who lives in Newest Shell and he's
got a son. Well, that was Rob Reiner. Carl Reiner
wrote that show based on his real life, and that
was Rob Reiner. Grew up in the same kind of
house with the Rob Petrie and Newest Schell at that time.
His father was actually Carl Reiner and he was writing
for Sid Caesar. But it's an amazing story. Now, this
(13:02):
is a horrible tragedy, the most awful tragedy imaginable. And
then President Trump tweets out I don't have in front
of me, but he just said Rob Reiner was a deranged,
you know, maniac with Trump derangement syndrome. He was spewing
hatred all the time. You know. He said basically something
about the hateful energy they put out, the hate, the
(13:25):
rage must have infected other people around him. Now, you're
not supposed to do that in a tragedy like this.
You're the president of the United States. You're supposed to
be very, very, very gracious. But that's not Donald Trump. Now,
if for me, I would have been gracious about it,
or I would have just let it go, not say it.
(13:46):
But that's not Donald Trump. So it upset a lot
of people that he attacked Rob Reiner in death. But yeah,
of course saw the Hollywood people tweeting furiously all night
about how Trump is obviously and this is one of them,
said the twenty fifth Amendment. CNN, MSNBC and even Fox,
(14:07):
Fox News panels, you know, totally denounced Trump for doing that,
and they're right, they're not wrong. I mean, Fox is
a classic place. They would never do anything like that.
I would never do anything like that. But that's Donald Trump.
That's what he does, that's what he's always done, that's
what he'll continue to do. For a number of reasons. One,
he has absolutely no filter. He will always say what
(14:30):
he really thinks. Now, if you do that in this situation, boy,
it's gonna be the You're gonna get bombarded. But he
also loves to be the lead story of the day.
And with this Rob Reiner stuff, you know, nobody would
think of him. It would just all be about Robert.
So he puts himself right back on top of the
of the news. That's one reason he does it. Again,
(14:54):
it's not right to do it. I wouldn't do it,
but I understand why he does it. And you know,
you can't say, hey, don't do this, don't do that.
The guy's the most successful guy in the world. Who's
to tell him what to do? And I've seen this before.
You know, a lot of Trump is based on Frank Sinatra.
He was a big studier of Frank Sinatra. I used
to talk to him about this years ago. Sinatra techniques, methods,
(15:17):
the way that was Sinatra. So who had no filter,
he would and he Sinatra was in the same situation.
Earlier in his career, there was a guy named Lee Mortimer.
He was the biggest columnist and he wrote the most
vicious things about Frank Sinatra. Vicious. He tried to tie
him to the mob. That's where actually all that mafia
stuff started from Lee Mortimer's columns. He tried to get
(15:39):
the guy just, you know, just totally disavowed by Holly.
I mean, nobody went after more than this columnist, Lee Mortimer.
Sinatra saw on was in a restaurant and punched him
right in the face and was put on trial. He
was actually convicted of assault, but Sinatra was so powerful
that he managed to avoid jail. Instead, he had a
(16:00):
pay a fifteen thousand dollars fine, which was a fortune
back then, and for the rest of his life, Sinatra
carried in his pocket a certified check for fifteen thousand dollars.
He said, if I ever see that guy, I'm gonna
punch him again and hand him the check. But years later,
Lee Mortimer died and he was a big columnist in America.
(16:23):
Said there was a huge funeral, and Sinatra didn't go
to the funeral. But later that night, at about two
in the morning. He brought a lot of friends to
the cemetery in the dark, in the middle of the night.
He wanted them to watch as he pissed on the
grave of Lee Mortimer. So that's Trump, that's Sinatra. There's
a lot of similarities. They just there was nothing phony
(16:45):
in these guys. They just couldn't do it. Hey, well,
take some calls. Next eight hundred three to two one
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