Jason Hopkins is a reporter covering immigration issues for the Daily Caller News Foundation.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
This is a podcast from do wor Now more of the.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
WR Saturday Morning Show and Larry Minte. Welcome back.
Speaker 3 (00:09):
This week, we learned that a group calling themselves Los
Diablos dela forty two the Little Devils of forty second Street,
are terrorizing tourists in Times Square. It's a group of
kids from ages eleven to sixteen from the migrant shelters
who are affiliated with the notorious Trenday Arragua of Venezuelan
transnational criminal syndicate that is in the United States. Now,
(00:33):
let's get more on the group from Jason Hopkins, the
immigration reporter for The Daily Caller. Hey, Jason, thanks so
much for joining us today. Tell us about Trenda Arragua.
Speaker 1 (00:44):
Trendy Iragua. It is international crime syndicate. Its originated in Venezuela,
the Venezuelan prisons, and they're making their mark here in
the United States. We've got across several states now. They
have arrested individuals that federal immigration authorities have confirmed are
(01:04):
connected with Trent New York City to Texas. And I'm
sure many people have heard about what's going on in
rural Colorado. They're here with so many people coming across
the border. It's just Border Patrol CVP. They're not able
to vet everyone properly, and unfortunately a lot of these
(01:24):
individuals are getting through and committing crime here in the country.
Speaker 2 (01:28):
And I heard reports that they're vicious, that they're they're
worse than the cartels. Is that true?
Speaker 1 (01:33):
Yeah, very much so. I mean we're talking about a
game that Venezuela is not doing well and individuals there
things are really deteriorating quickly, and so that's really what
you're seeing this originate from and from prisons. I mean,
these are people I'm sure a lot of listeners have
been familiar with MS Theirt and their brutality. That's a
(01:54):
game that they're actually originated in the United States, but
I mean they're known for Salvadorian nationals. But as far
as trend goes, yes, these people are very vicious and
in a lot of ways can really give people like
the Latin Kings or MS thirteen to run for their money.
And as far as their brutality goes.
Speaker 2 (02:13):
And these kids that are now circling tourists in Midtown
Manhattan in New York and robbing them in gunpoint Lowstavlos
de la forty two. Do they get their marching orders
from trend de Ragua or are these kids just trying
to impress them?
Speaker 1 (02:30):
I would say the best answer is a little bit
of both. I mean, these are not necessarily the most
well organized groups or individuals. I mean, we have heard
of reports here from federal authorities that say, like like
for example, TRENDYAG where they were given the green light
to you know, attack law enforcement. Right. I mean, so
you do see examples where they're given orders from the
(02:52):
top on down. But a lot of these kids, I
mean we're talking the vast majority of people who are
being arrested, and they're you know, they're they're trend thirteen,
they're in their twenties, or they're even in their teens.
So I mean there is an element there of you know,
they're not necessarily knowing what they're doing, and they're not
that well organized, But you do have elements of both.
Speaker 2 (03:11):
Yeah, these kids in Times Square, the kids in New York.
One that was arrested was as young as eleven. So
these are child criminals, and it seems like they're taking
full advantage of New York City's soft on crime policies
and the sanctuary cities city status, aren't they they are?
Speaker 1 (03:32):
And unfortunately, this, I mean, this has just become such
a reoccurring problem in New York City where you have
individuals illegal aliens that are being arrested for crimes immediately
being released and because of the sanctuary policies that are
in the books in New York City, ICE is unable
to really do anything about it because they're not being alerted.
I mean, they have the system works is when these
(03:54):
people are booked, they have their you know, of course,
their fingerprint that goes into a national database. New York
City can't start that. So then ICE is alerted when
they're in a custody of local officials or local custody,
but they have no way of knowing unless ICE, unless
the New York City cops cooperate and let them know
when they're being released. So these guys are just you know,
(04:15):
they're getting arrested and then they're being let go almost
immediately to commit more crimes. And we've seen this play
out to very very terrible effect. I mean, we've got
several examples of where an illegal alien was arrested for
maybe something a bit more minor, maybe an assault or
you know, some sort of a sexual assault, they get released.
ICE is non informed about it, so ICE can't catch
(04:37):
them obviously, and then they've gone on to commit vicious rape, right,
I mean that happened. It was like Coney Island or
somewhere just just a few months ago here, and that
was just a huge deal that this person could have
been a nice apprehension. It could have been a nice custody.
But because of the laws in the books, you know,
cops can't hand them over. And many of the cops,
(04:57):
by the way, want to cooperate with ICE. And you
add in MYPD top officials say these laws need to change.
Mayor Eric Adams a former cop. He wants to see
the laws change. But because you have a New York
City Council that's so dominated by liberal Democrats, they're just
not budgeting, right. I mean, we have a bill in
place right now that could wind that back, but they
(05:19):
don't want.
Speaker 2 (05:19):
To touch it. Yeah, it's funny you say that because
every time we hear Now we heard about migrants committing
crimes in Central Park, we heard about migrants committing crimes
in Midtown. Now we have another report from the police
about groups of migrants committing crimes in Times Square. But
they're not even supposed to be talking to these people
(05:41):
about the migrant crime. It's nowhere on their records that
they're from their migrants or what their immigration status is.
So this is the police releasing all this information on
their own. So to what you were talking about, it
does seem like there's this big chasm between what the
police want and what some of the people in city
(06:04):
council or in city government want.
Speaker 1 (06:07):
Right, I mean, it's got to be a little heartbreaking
really to be a police officer. You're out there, you're
doing your job, right, You're arresting these people, but then
you have laws in the book that one allow them
to be released, you know, quite immediately, and then they
can't nothing about them is done more permanently in this
regard taking them over to federal officials, so then they
(06:29):
just have to deal with them again. And I can
almost feel like a pointless process if you're just arresting
someone over and over and over and then they're just
being released, So you do. We are seeing more pushback
from the police force regarding this issue, right, I mean,
You've got people speaking out saying we need to change
the laws. There are reports too of a cop. NYPD
(06:52):
leaders speaking more with ice and just trying to figure
ways around these sanctuary laws so that they can do
something which at the end of the day they just
want to commit keep the community safe. I mean, that's
that's the end goal of course, right, that's the whole
point of police. So they're doing what they can, but
unfortunately they are handicapped by the laws that are in place.
Speaker 2 (07:10):
Yeah, and to your point, having violent criminals on the
on the streets, that makes their lives in danger as
well makes their job more dangerous. We're talking with Jason Hopkins,
immigration reporter for The Daily Caller. You can read his
excellent reporting at the Dailycoller dot com. Jason. Donald Trump
said yesterday that he's going to ban sanctuary cities with
(07:33):
an executive order. Is that even possible.
Speaker 1 (07:36):
There's debate whether that can be done or not really
depends who you ask. Now, he has tried to do
something like this before during his first term, right to
a limited degree. Right, he was trying to withhold, you know,
federal funds that are given to different localities. That was
the funds that provided to these jurisdictions to help them
with a different you know law enforcement efforts or whatnot.
(07:58):
He tried withholding that they were. There was certainly push back,
obviously a court case on it. So we'll see what
he can do, but I can certainly promise you this
there will be a lawsuit over it with anything he
tries to do if he's elected and he tries to
move forward with that. So that's the other point of
this is anytime there is sort of efforts to push
(08:20):
back on sanctuary laws, there's vicious, vicious litigation on behalf
of pro sanctuary city advocates.
Speaker 2 (08:28):
Jason, just one last question. We keep hearing the crime
statistics show that migrant crime is actually down, but those
statistics are misleading, aren't they.
Speaker 1 (08:37):
They really are, And the people who peddle that myth
know what they're doing, right, Because we've talked so much
here about New York City and there are there are
other localities and sanctuary cities that don't allow immigration status
to be listed upon and arrest. Why does that matter?
Because then how do we know who is illegal and
who's not in the crimes that they're committee. So when
(08:59):
they say, oh, well, migrant crime is lower than native crime,
well we don't really know that because any illegal aliening
who's arrested in New York City or another pace, say
Denver or you know, San Francisco. We don't know what
their status is when they're getting arrested for on charges
of rape or charges of murder. Even so, you can't
make that claim. We just don't know, and the people
(09:20):
who are pushing that narrative know that they know what
they're doing.
Speaker 2 (09:23):
Jason Hopkins, immigration reporter for the Daily Caller. Thanks so
much for your time.
Speaker 1 (09:28):
Hey, thanks so much for having me again.
Speaker 2 (09:30):
You can read Jason Hopkins reporting on Dailycaller dot com.
This has been a podcast from wor
This is a podcast from do wor Now more of the.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
WR Saturday Morning Show and Larry Minte. Welcome back.
Speaker 3 (00:09):
This week, we learned that a group calling themselves Los
Diablos dela forty two the Little Devils of forty second Street,
are terrorizing tourists in Times Square. It's a group of
kids from ages eleven to sixteen from the migrant shelters
who are affiliated with the notorious Trenday Arragua of Venezuelan
transnational criminal syndicate that is in the United States. Now,
(00:33):
let's get more on the group from Jason Hopkins, the
immigration reporter for The Daily Caller. Hey, Jason, thanks so
much for joining us today. Tell us about Trenda Arragua.
Speaker 1 (00:44):
Trendy Iragua. It is international crime syndicate. Its originated in Venezuela,
the Venezuelan prisons, and they're making their mark here in
the United States. We've got across several states now. They
have arrested individuals that federal immigration authorities have confirmed are
(01:04):
connected with Trent New York City to Texas. And I'm
sure many people have heard about what's going on in
rural Colorado. They're here with so many people coming across
the border. It's just Border Patrol CVP. They're not able
to vet everyone properly, and unfortunately a lot of these
(01:24):
individuals are getting through and committing crime here in the country.
Speaker 2 (01:28):
And I heard reports that they're vicious, that they're they're
worse than the cartels. Is that true?
Speaker 1 (01:33):
Yeah, very much so. I mean we're talking about a
game that Venezuela is not doing well and individuals there
things are really deteriorating quickly, and so that's really what
you're seeing this originate from and from prisons. I mean,
these are people I'm sure a lot of listeners have
been familiar with MS Theirt and their brutality. That's a
(01:54):
game that they're actually originated in the United States, but
I mean they're known for Salvadorian nationals. But as far
as trend goes, yes, these people are very vicious and
in a lot of ways can really give people like
the Latin Kings or MS thirteen to run for their money.
And as far as their brutality goes.
Speaker 2 (02:13):
And these kids that are now circling tourists in Midtown
Manhattan in New York and robbing them in gunpoint Lowstavlos
de la forty two. Do they get their marching orders
from trend de Ragua or are these kids just trying
to impress them?
Speaker 1 (02:30):
I would say the best answer is a little bit
of both. I mean, these are not necessarily the most
well organized groups or individuals. I mean, we have heard
of reports here from federal authorities that say, like like
for example, TRENDYAG where they were given the green light
to you know, attack law enforcement. Right. I mean, so
you do see examples where they're given orders from the
(02:52):
top on down. But a lot of these kids, I
mean we're talking the vast majority of people who are
being arrested, and they're you know, they're they're trend thirteen,
they're in their twenties, or they're even in their teens.
So I mean there is an element there of you know,
they're not necessarily knowing what they're doing, and they're not
that well organized, But you do have elements of both.
Speaker 2 (03:11):
Yeah, these kids in Times Square, the kids in New York.
One that was arrested was as young as eleven. So
these are child criminals, and it seems like they're taking
full advantage of New York City's soft on crime policies
and the sanctuary cities city status, aren't they they are?
Speaker 1 (03:32):
And unfortunately, this, I mean, this has just become such
a reoccurring problem in New York City where you have
individuals illegal aliens that are being arrested for crimes immediately
being released and because of the sanctuary policies that are
in the books in New York City, ICE is unable
to really do anything about it because they're not being alerted.
I mean, they have the system works is when these
(03:54):
people are booked, they have their you know, of course,
their fingerprint that goes into a national database. New York
City can't start that. So then ICE is alerted when
they're in a custody of local officials or local custody,
but they have no way of knowing unless ICE, unless
the New York City cops cooperate and let them know
when they're being released. So these guys are just you know,
(04:15):
they're getting arrested and then they're being let go almost
immediately to commit more crimes. And we've seen this play
out to very very terrible effect. I mean, we've got
several examples of where an illegal alien was arrested for
maybe something a bit more minor, maybe an assault or
you know, some sort of a sexual assault, they get released.
ICE is non informed about it, so ICE can't catch
(04:37):
them obviously, and then they've gone on to commit vicious rape, right,
I mean that happened. It was like Coney Island or
somewhere just just a few months ago here, and that
was just a huge deal that this person could have
been a nice apprehension. It could have been a nice custody.
But because of the laws in the books, you know,
cops can't hand them over. And many of the cops,
(04:57):
by the way, want to cooperate with ICE. And you
add in MYPD top officials say these laws need to change.
Mayor Eric Adams a former cop. He wants to see
the laws change. But because you have a New York
City Council that's so dominated by liberal Democrats, they're just
not budgeting, right. I mean, we have a bill in
place right now that could wind that back, but they
(05:19):
don't want.
Speaker 2 (05:19):
To touch it. Yeah, it's funny you say that because
every time we hear Now we heard about migrants committing
crimes in Central Park, we heard about migrants committing crimes
in Midtown. Now we have another report from the police
about groups of migrants committing crimes in Times Square. But
they're not even supposed to be talking to these people
(05:41):
about the migrant crime. It's nowhere on their records that
they're from their migrants or what their immigration status is.
So this is the police releasing all this information on
their own. So to what you were talking about, it
does seem like there's this big chasm between what the
police want and what some of the people in city
(06:04):
council or in city government want.
Speaker 1 (06:07):
Right, I mean, it's got to be a little heartbreaking
really to be a police officer. You're out there, you're
doing your job, right, You're arresting these people, but then
you have laws in the book that one allow them
to be released, you know, quite immediately, and then they
can't nothing about them is done more permanently in this
regard taking them over to federal officials, so then they
(06:29):
just have to deal with them again. And I can
almost feel like a pointless process if you're just arresting
someone over and over and over and then they're just
being released, So you do. We are seeing more pushback
from the police force regarding this issue, right, I mean,
You've got people speaking out saying we need to change
the laws. There are reports too of a cop. NYPD
(06:52):
leaders speaking more with ice and just trying to figure
ways around these sanctuary laws so that they can do
something which at the end of the day they just
want to commit keep the community safe. I mean, that's
that's the end goal of course, right, that's the whole
point of police. So they're doing what they can, but
unfortunately they are handicapped by the laws that are in place.
Speaker 2 (07:10):
Yeah, and to your point, having violent criminals on the
on the streets, that makes their lives in danger as
well makes their job more dangerous. We're talking with Jason Hopkins,
immigration reporter for The Daily Caller. You can read his
excellent reporting at the Dailycoller dot com. Jason. Donald Trump
said yesterday that he's going to ban sanctuary cities with
(07:33):
an executive order. Is that even possible.
Speaker 1 (07:36):
There's debate whether that can be done or not really
depends who you ask. Now, he has tried to do
something like this before during his first term, right to
a limited degree. Right, he was trying to withhold, you know,
federal funds that are given to different localities. That was
the funds that provided to these jurisdictions to help them
with a different you know law enforcement efforts or whatnot.
(07:58):
He tried withholding that they were. There was certainly push back,
obviously a court case on it. So we'll see what
he can do, but I can certainly promise you this
there will be a lawsuit over it with anything he
tries to do if he's elected and he tries to
move forward with that. So that's the other point of
this is anytime there is sort of efforts to push
(08:20):
back on sanctuary laws, there's vicious, vicious litigation on behalf
of pro sanctuary city advocates.
Speaker 2 (08:28):
Jason, just one last question. We keep hearing the crime
statistics show that migrant crime is actually down, but those
statistics are misleading, aren't they.
Speaker 1 (08:37):
They really are, And the people who peddle that myth
know what they're doing, right, Because we've talked so much
here about New York City and there are there are
other localities and sanctuary cities that don't allow immigration status
to be listed upon and arrest. Why does that matter?
Because then how do we know who is illegal and
who's not in the crimes that they're committee. So when
(08:59):
they say, oh, well, migrant crime is lower than native crime,
well we don't really know that because any illegal aliening
who's arrested in New York City or another pace, say
Denver or you know, San Francisco. We don't know what
their status is when they're getting arrested for on charges
of rape or charges of murder. Even so, you can't
make that claim. We just don't know, and the people
(09:20):
who are pushing that narrative know that they know what
they're doing.
Speaker 2 (09:23):
Jason Hopkins, immigration reporter for the Daily Caller. Thanks so
much for your time.
Speaker 1 (09:28):
Hey, thanks so much for having me again.
Speaker 2 (09:30):
You can read Jason Hopkins reporting on Dailycaller dot com.
This has been a podcast from wor
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