Josh Gottheimer is running to be the lower taxes, lower costs Governor. Rooted in his Jersey Values, Josh knows that we must make Jersey more affordable for families and help address the high cost of living in New Jersey to help the state grow and thrive for the next generation. Josh is a Jersey guy, through and through. On one side, Josh’s immigrant great-grandparents, started in Linden, and then his mom, Gwenn (of blessed memory) and her parents moved to Monmouth County, where she graduated from Asbury Park High School, going onto become a teacher in Elizabeth. Josh’s dad grew up in West Orange, where he started his small business in his basement, while going to Rutgers.Josh grew up in North Caldwell and went to West Essex High School, the University of Pennsylvania, and Harvard Law School.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
This is a podcast from dou wo R now the
w o R Saturday Morning Show. Here's Larry Minty.
Speaker 2 (00:08):
Good morning, and welcome to Saturday Morning. Let's start with
the great news about congestion pricing and the fight still
ahead with New Jersey Congressman and Democratic gubernatorial candidate Josh Gotdheimer.
Welcome to the show, Congressman Gottheimer, Thank you so much
for having us.
Speaker 3 (00:25):
Yeah, absolutely so. How are you feeling today?
Speaker 1 (00:27):
Day man, great day, the little extra bouncing the step today.
Speaker 3 (00:31):
Yeah, and did you see this coming?
Speaker 1 (00:35):
I did see Conna. Listen, it was announced that the
administration was going to do this. We've been fighting this
thing forever and the arguments we've had against the congestion
tax have held true the whole time. And now finally,
you know, instead of rubber stamping an idea that wasn't
ready for prime time, you know, now there's recognition that
this not only is this the congestion tacks whacking hard
(00:56):
work and families, you know, nine dollars a day at
a time where we gotta do everything we can to
get prices down to help people and it's you know,
especially hard working folks. We're just trying to make ends meet.
But the other piece we've always been talking about is
this was nothing but a cash grab for New York
that was going to do nothing to help the environment.
In fact, in northern New Jersey, given the change in
traffic patterns of all these people avoiding the congestion tax,
(01:18):
you'd get more pollution, which is exactly what we've been
seeing since they started this, right, More trucks have been
going to the GW Bridge, backing up, more pollution for
New Jersey, hurting our kids and our families. And this
is exactly what we said. What happened. It happened, and
the administration stood up yesterday and said, yeah, we agree
with you.
Speaker 3 (01:37):
Yeah, and New York is going to fight this.
Speaker 2 (01:39):
Kathy Hochel announced that yesterday that they're going to file
suit and look for an injunction.
Speaker 3 (01:44):
What do you see happening?
Speaker 1 (01:45):
So I get they want to fight this. They lost
for a reason. Not only can you not when you
have a problem with your MTA and your transit system
and you will trying to blame somebody else, and you know,
pick someone else's pockets to fix your problems, you know,
like which obviously I've very strong feelings that that is
not what you should do to Jersey families or those
are the otta boroughs. But on top of that, I
(02:07):
get she's frustrated. She tried to jam this thing through,
knowing that it would lead to more traffic in Jersey
and more pollution in New Jersey. Decided she thought she
could just pull a fast one and everyone and she's
pissed because they caught her. And what I thought was
amazing yesterday. I don't know if you heard her press conference,
but she had the audacity to say that Jersey families,
(02:27):
you know, you're not forced to come to New York City.
Is if she doesn't want us to come in?
Speaker 2 (02:31):
Oh congressman, let me play that. Let me play that,
and you can react afterwards.
Speaker 4 (02:36):
New Jersey residents come, You're welcome, but you're not forced
to come here. This is the flaw in their argument.
They have choices keep coming, We love you, that's great.
But the people who live here, who are real New Yorkers,
they're the ones who I have to listen to and
I will always fight for.
Speaker 1 (02:54):
No. Go ahead, sorry to interrupt you, No, I mean,
could you imagine that you got this small? But not
only are small businesses ruggling in New York and they're
trying to get people to come back to the city
post pandemic, right, and not only you're basically saying to
your own small business owners, you know, we don't want
people to come in and support New York. But on
top of that, do you know how many people from
Jersey go into New York every day? Cops, firefighters, nurses
(03:17):
right who, electricians and others who help New York's economy,
who give money yours economy, who work in New York.
All these hard working people, and you just basically slap
them in the face. I think that was an unbelievable statement,
and I'm hoping she backs off that today. Put aside
all the people who are patients in the hospitals and
who support you know, go to the restaurants, but to
(03:39):
say no thanks to New Jersey. Listen, I want everyone
to stay in Jersey and support New Jersey businesses. But
you got people who go to work to make a
living and to try to make ends meet, and you're
telling them, no, thanks, we don't want you.
Speaker 3 (03:50):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (03:50):
No, it was absolutely ignorant, because there are people that
get off of work that work at restaurants or bars
and get off in two in the morning and there's
no trains to take back to New Jersey or where
they want to go, and they have to drive in
and they're hit the hardest, or construction workers that have
to come in in the middle of the night, or
or or people that work in hospitals. It was an
(04:11):
insult to all of them. Yeah, no, absolutely, But how
do you think people feel also that are in the
outer boroughs or on Long Island, New York or Westchester?
Speaker 1 (04:22):
Exactly? Oh, I mean, you have no idea how many
people when I go out I talked to come up
to me and talk to who are not from Jersey,
We're from the Burroughs or from Westchester, Long Island, who
are like, we got to stop this thing. It's gonna
it's they're getting whacked too, just like we are. And
you know, you're talking about twenty three hundred dollars a year.
This is not like pocket change, right, this is real money,
(04:43):
and on top of what people already pay for bridges
and tunnels to get into New York. So listen, this
is a great win to just cut taxes for people,
stop and cut costs for people, and and stop this
congestion tax and I also think, you know, they want
to go ahead and try to fight this right right,
which is what she said yesterday, And the MTA said
they're going to go ahead and keep charging people. I
(05:04):
don't know if you saw that, but the idea refusing
to shut these things off. Uh, and the you know which, Listen,
they'll go to a judge, and a judge is going
to work this out, and I believe we'll rule in
favor of of Jersey on this. But what I think
has to happen is that we keep track of every
nickel people are paying starting today on these congestion taxes,
and they should get reimbursed when this when they when
(05:24):
New York ultimately loses in the courts, which is what's
going to happen, everyone who's had to pay should get reimbursed.
Speaker 2 (05:30):
Great idea and wonderful point. And at the same time
that this is all happening, you're a lawsuit. The New
Jersey lawsuit is going to continue.
Speaker 1 (05:39):
Correct, We've got the New Jersey lawsuit will continue as refiled.
As a backup plan, We've got bipartisan legislation I've been
than I've got in Congress that as a backup plan.
You know we'll keep fighting. I mean, listen, it's Jersey, right,
we keep fighting. Screw with us, you find out what happens,
but we'll just keep going. And uh, and you know
this is at the end of the day, this is
(06:00):
about making sure we help save money for Jersey families
and make their lives easier. And that's that's what it's about.
Speaker 3 (06:06):
I'll tell you what. I don't care how it dies,
just so it dies.
Speaker 2 (06:09):
And so whether it's yeah, either it's your lawsuit or
it's President trut.
Speaker 1 (06:16):
We stopped this tax and save people money. I don't
care who, I don't care how it gets.
Speaker 2 (06:20):
Done because it's good for New Jersey. Good luck with
the good editorial election. Thank you so much, Josh gottheimer.
I'll talk to you again soon, Talk you soon.
Speaker 3 (06:29):
Take care.
Speaker 1 (06:30):
This has been a podcast from dou w o R.
This is a podcast from dou wo R now the
w o R Saturday Morning Show. Here's Larry Minty.
Speaker 2 (00:08):
Good morning, and welcome to Saturday Morning. Let's start with
the great news about congestion pricing and the fight still
ahead with New Jersey Congressman and Democratic gubernatorial candidate Josh Gotdheimer.
Welcome to the show, Congressman Gottheimer, Thank you so much
for having us.
Speaker 3 (00:25):
Yeah, absolutely so. How are you feeling today?
Speaker 1 (00:27):
Day man, great day, the little extra bouncing the step today.
Speaker 3 (00:31):
Yeah, and did you see this coming?
Speaker 1 (00:35):
I did see Conna. Listen, it was announced that the
administration was going to do this. We've been fighting this
thing forever and the arguments we've had against the congestion
tax have held true the whole time. And now finally,
you know, instead of rubber stamping an idea that wasn't
ready for prime time, you know, now there's recognition that
this not only is this the congestion tacks whacking hard
(00:56):
work and families, you know, nine dollars a day at
a time where we gotta do everything we can to
get prices down to help people and it's you know,
especially hard working folks. We're just trying to make ends meet.
But the other piece we've always been talking about is
this was nothing but a cash grab for New York
that was going to do nothing to help the environment.
In fact, in northern New Jersey, given the change in
traffic patterns of all these people avoiding the congestion tax,
(01:18):
you'd get more pollution, which is exactly what we've been
seeing since they started this, right, More trucks have been
going to the GW Bridge, backing up, more pollution for
New Jersey, hurting our kids and our families. And this
is exactly what we said. What happened. It happened, and
the administration stood up yesterday and said, yeah, we agree
with you.
Speaker 3 (01:37):
Yeah, and New York is going to fight this.
Speaker 2 (01:39):
Kathy Hochel announced that yesterday that they're going to file
suit and look for an injunction.
Speaker 3 (01:44):
What do you see happening?
Speaker 1 (01:45):
So I get they want to fight this. They lost
for a reason. Not only can you not when you
have a problem with your MTA and your transit system
and you will trying to blame somebody else, and you know,
pick someone else's pockets to fix your problems, you know,
like which obviously I've very strong feelings that that is
not what you should do to Jersey families or those
are the otta boroughs. But on top of that, I
(02:07):
get she's frustrated. She tried to jam this thing through,
knowing that it would lead to more traffic in Jersey
and more pollution in New Jersey. Decided she thought she
could just pull a fast one and everyone and she's
pissed because they caught her. And what I thought was
amazing yesterday. I don't know if you heard her press conference,
but she had the audacity to say that Jersey families,
(02:27):
you know, you're not forced to come to New York City.
Is if she doesn't want us to come in?
Speaker 2 (02:31):
Oh congressman, let me play that. Let me play that,
and you can react afterwards.
Speaker 4 (02:36):
New Jersey residents come, You're welcome, but you're not forced
to come here. This is the flaw in their argument.
They have choices keep coming, We love you, that's great.
But the people who live here, who are real New Yorkers,
they're the ones who I have to listen to and
I will always fight for.
Speaker 1 (02:54):
No. Go ahead, sorry to interrupt you, No, I mean,
could you imagine that you got this small? But not
only are small businesses ruggling in New York and they're
trying to get people to come back to the city
post pandemic, right, and not only you're basically saying to
your own small business owners, you know, we don't want
people to come in and support New York. But on
top of that, do you know how many people from
Jersey go into New York every day? Cops, firefighters, nurses
(03:17):
right who, electricians and others who help New York's economy,
who give money yours economy, who work in New York.
All these hard working people, and you just basically slap
them in the face. I think that was an unbelievable statement,
and I'm hoping she backs off that today. Put aside
all the people who are patients in the hospitals and
who support you know, go to the restaurants, but to
(03:39):
say no thanks to New Jersey. Listen, I want everyone
to stay in Jersey and support New Jersey businesses. But
you got people who go to work to make a
living and to try to make ends meet, and you're
telling them, no, thanks, we don't want you.
Speaker 3 (03:50):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (03:50):
No, it was absolutely ignorant, because there are people that
get off of work that work at restaurants or bars
and get off in two in the morning and there's
no trains to take back to New Jersey or where
they want to go, and they have to drive in
and they're hit the hardest, or construction workers that have
to come in in the middle of the night, or
or or people that work in hospitals. It was an
(04:11):
insult to all of them. Yeah, no, absolutely, But how
do you think people feel also that are in the
outer boroughs or on Long Island, New York or Westchester?
Speaker 1 (04:22):
Exactly? Oh, I mean, you have no idea how many
people when I go out I talked to come up
to me and talk to who are not from Jersey,
We're from the Burroughs or from Westchester, Long Island, who
are like, we got to stop this thing. It's gonna
it's they're getting whacked too, just like we are. And
you know, you're talking about twenty three hundred dollars a year.
This is not like pocket change, right, this is real money,
(04:43):
and on top of what people already pay for bridges
and tunnels to get into New York. So listen, this
is a great win to just cut taxes for people,
stop and cut costs for people, and and stop this
congestion tax and I also think, you know, they want
to go ahead and try to fight this right right,
which is what she said yesterday, And the MTA said
they're going to go ahead and keep charging people. I
(05:04):
don't know if you saw that, but the idea refusing
to shut these things off. Uh, and the you know which, Listen,
they'll go to a judge, and a judge is going
to work this out, and I believe we'll rule in
favor of of Jersey on this. But what I think
has to happen is that we keep track of every
nickel people are paying starting today on these congestion taxes,
and they should get reimbursed when this when they when
(05:24):
New York ultimately loses in the courts, which is what's
going to happen, everyone who's had to pay should get reimbursed.
Speaker 2 (05:30):
Great idea and wonderful point. And at the same time
that this is all happening, you're a lawsuit. The New
Jersey lawsuit is going to continue.
Speaker 1 (05:39):
Correct, We've got the New Jersey lawsuit will continue as refiled.
As a backup plan, We've got bipartisan legislation I've been
than I've got in Congress that as a backup plan.
You know we'll keep fighting. I mean, listen, it's Jersey, right,
we keep fighting. Screw with us, you find out what happens,
but we'll just keep going. And uh, and you know
this is at the end of the day, this is
(06:00):
about making sure we help save money for Jersey families
and make their lives easier. And that's that's what it's about.
Speaker 3 (06:06):
I'll tell you what. I don't care how it dies,
just so it dies.
Speaker 2 (06:09):
And so whether it's yeah, either it's your lawsuit or
it's President trut.
Speaker 1 (06:16):
We stopped this tax and save people money. I don't
care who, I don't care how it gets.
Speaker 2 (06:20):
Done because it's good for New Jersey. Good luck with
the good editorial election. Thank you so much, Josh gottheimer.
I'll talk to you again soon, Talk you soon.
Speaker 3 (06:29):
Take care.
Speaker 1 (06:30):
This has been a podcast from dou w o R.
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