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Speaker 1 (00:00):
This is a podcast from dou Wor Now more of the.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
Wor Saturday Morning Show and Larry Minti.
Speaker 1 (00:08):
There were large protests outside Tesla dealerships against Elon Musk
and Doge and citizen journalist Jason Goodman, founder of crowd
Source The Truth, was there and he had a tense
exchange with mayoral candidate Zorhan Mandani. Jason tell us what happened.
Speaker 2 (00:26):
Well, he was just sort of popped out of the
crowd talking to people, and I asked him, you know,
how can you support this? Isn't this economic terrorism? And
he said, well, it's the first Amendment. I said, no, no, no,
they've shut down this business for the past three weeks
in a row. That's a kinetic action. I mean, that's
(00:46):
the first amendment. Would be they go to the park
and say we don't like Elon Musk for this and
that reason. They start a podcast, they write an article,
they investigate Elon Musk, find out he's manipulating stock.
Speaker 3 (00:58):
Do what you will. That's the first amendment.
Speaker 2 (01:00):
But when you crowd out the street in front of
the business and intimidate anyone driving up in a Tesla
and make it just an intractable you know, nobody wants.
Speaker 3 (01:08):
To go in there. They've closed the place for the
past three weeks.
Speaker 2 (01:12):
How many businesses in New York City could even continue
if they were forced to close three weekends in a row.
It seems like it shouldn't be allowed to me. And
he just you know, brought in some six and a
half foot tall guy to you know, bump me out
of the way, and he walked away.
Speaker 3 (01:27):
He was terrible.
Speaker 1 (01:28):
Yeah, I remember when a guy came in. I didn't
even know he had that kind of security around him.
As a matter of fact, let me play this, uh Jason,
because I have the clip of it.
Speaker 3 (01:38):
You're running from there.
Speaker 2 (01:40):
Yeah, isn't this not First Amendment activity? Shutting down a
business three weeks in a row? How many New York
City businesses could tolerate to close their location three weeks
in a row. This is an economic attack on Tesla.
Speaker 3 (01:53):
How can you sanction this?
Speaker 2 (01:55):
He will never be mayor.
Speaker 3 (01:57):
This is nothing, which is the first Amendment? This step
away from me. Don't advance towards me right now? Yeah
you did.
Speaker 2 (02:03):
You just came up to me in a threatening manner
and you're advancing towards me.
Speaker 3 (02:07):
Back up.
Speaker 1 (02:08):
That did you see how many people he had working
there telling him to get away from you, and then
that guy came right up on you. You were absolutely right.
He was threatening. First of all, he checked me, he did.
Speaker 3 (02:22):
I didn't know.
Speaker 2 (02:22):
He pushed me back into that guy standing behind me,
and he was like, yeah, and he just walks away.
But what am I gonna do? I mean, he's half
a foot.
Speaker 3 (02:29):
Taller than me.
Speaker 1 (02:30):
Yeah, he was enormous. He was like out of a movie.
He was a movie bad guy. He was that big.
Did you see him? I mean, I didn't know. The
people from mom Donnie seemed to come out of the
woodwork after you went after him. Did you notice that,
you know, there was a woman that came and grabbed
his arm.
Speaker 2 (02:48):
I noticed it on the video playback, of course I
didn't notice it at the time that it was happening. See,
I've been doing this for about eight years and most
recently around this Tesla dealership, been going there for the
past three weeks on Saturday and observing what's.
Speaker 3 (03:03):
Been going on.
Speaker 2 (03:04):
And there's a unit of the NYPD called the Community
Affairs Unit, and they wear a different uniform than regular NYPD.
They wear a very almost irridescent royal blue, much more casual,
kind of like fleece or depending on the season, but
it's always a very, very high viz royal blue. And
(03:28):
what I've noticed even before this Tesla incident is that
there are certain individuals who appear around New York City
who will have an article of clothing that matches that
high visibility royal blue.
Speaker 3 (03:41):
And due to that and.
Speaker 2 (03:44):
Other evidence, I believe those people are somehow associated with
this Community Affairs Unit. Now, what I've noticed in these
Tesla crowds are people wearing that high visibility color. The
guy who comes in body checks me is wearing high
viz orange, So that's not what I'm talking about.
Speaker 3 (03:59):
But they do seem to have color coding.
Speaker 2 (04:02):
There were people with the Extinction Rebellion logo, which is
one of these nonprofit organizations that gets behind these things.
Speaker 3 (04:10):
There was one guy walking around.
Speaker 2 (04:12):
With three different colored flags. One was this high viz blue,
one was high viz yellow, and one was white. And
so I suspect these are signals to people in the
crowd and people wearing different clothing and these color coded items.
Go back and look at the videos, You'll see what
I'm talking about. High visibility blue in this crowd, and
(04:32):
particularly if people go to my ex account, if I
you don't mind, if I should not.
Speaker 1 (04:39):
At all, I want people to come and find you.
Speaker 2 (04:41):
Yeah, if they go on there at JG like Jason
Goodman underscore CSTT like Crowdsource to Truth, so on x
at JG underscore CSTT. You look at these encounters I'm
having in the crowd, and you'll see.
Speaker 3 (04:56):
Who gathers around me.
Speaker 2 (04:58):
They're wearing you know, mets, and they're all conveniently wearing
this high visibility blue when I start, and certain journalists.
You'll see, certain people wear a hoodie. And when I
ask the police a question. I don't know if you
saw this other video, but I walk up to these
two police officers and I say, here's someone holding a
sign that says burn a tesla. I mean, this is
(05:19):
a public incitement to violence. You're police officers, How are
you standing here and allowing this to happen. This sixty
two year old, fat, bald dude who looks like he'd
be like a news photographer for the Post. He's just
strides up to me and he's like, oh, this is
First Amendment blah blah blah, and I'm like, why are
(05:40):
you getting involved in my conversation with the police.
Speaker 3 (05:43):
It's the most bizarre thing. So I walk away, this
guy's following me.
Speaker 2 (05:47):
I'm asking the police, why tell this guy to get
away from me? Why are you protecting him? And then
this crowd of people where wearing high visibility blue hats
crowds around me. So it wasn't just our beloved maorial candidate.
This is a coordinated incident.
Speaker 3 (06:04):
In my opinion, Yeah, I get it.
Speaker 1 (06:06):
And so the question is who's coordinating it? And the
question is who's at the top of this? And the
question is how does it all happen nationally at the
very same time. You're absolutely right, there is someone running
all of this and organizing it, and that's the big question.
And Jason, it was a pleasure to talk to you.
I would love to talk again because you're a wealth
(06:27):
of information journalist. Jason Goodman, founder of Crowdsource the Truth.
Speaker 2 (06:32):
This has been a podcast from wor
This is a podcast from dou Wor Now more of the.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
Wor Saturday Morning Show and Larry Minti.
Speaker 1 (00:08):
There were large protests outside Tesla dealerships against Elon Musk
and Doge and citizen journalist Jason Goodman, founder of crowd
Source The Truth, was there and he had a tense
exchange with mayoral candidate Zorhan Mandani. Jason tell us what happened.
Speaker 2 (00:26):
Well, he was just sort of popped out of the
crowd talking to people, and I asked him, you know,
how can you support this? Isn't this economic terrorism? And
he said, well, it's the first Amendment. I said, no, no, no,
they've shut down this business for the past three weeks
in a row. That's a kinetic action. I mean, that's
(00:46):
the first amendment. Would be they go to the park
and say we don't like Elon Musk for this and
that reason. They start a podcast, they write an article,
they investigate Elon Musk, find out he's manipulating stock.
Speaker 3 (00:58):
Do what you will. That's the first amendment.
Speaker 2 (01:00):
But when you crowd out the street in front of
the business and intimidate anyone driving up in a Tesla
and make it just an intractable you know, nobody wants.
Speaker 3 (01:08):
To go in there. They've closed the place for the
past three weeks.
Speaker 2 (01:12):
How many businesses in New York City could even continue
if they were forced to close three weekends in a row.
It seems like it shouldn't be allowed to me. And
he just you know, brought in some six and a
half foot tall guy to you know, bump me out
of the way, and he walked away.
Speaker 3 (01:27):
He was terrible.
Speaker 1 (01:28):
Yeah, I remember when a guy came in. I didn't
even know he had that kind of security around him.
As a matter of fact, let me play this, uh Jason,
because I have the clip of it.
Speaker 3 (01:38):
You're running from there.
Speaker 2 (01:40):
Yeah, isn't this not First Amendment activity? Shutting down a
business three weeks in a row? How many New York
City businesses could tolerate to close their location three weeks
in a row. This is an economic attack on Tesla.
Speaker 3 (01:53):
How can you sanction this?
Speaker 2 (01:55):
He will never be mayor.
Speaker 3 (01:57):
This is nothing, which is the first Amendment? This step
away from me. Don't advance towards me right now? Yeah
you did.
Speaker 2 (02:03):
You just came up to me in a threatening manner
and you're advancing towards me.
Speaker 3 (02:07):
Back up.
Speaker 1 (02:08):
That did you see how many people he had working
there telling him to get away from you, and then
that guy came right up on you. You were absolutely right.
He was threatening. First of all, he checked me, he did.
Speaker 3 (02:22):
I didn't know.
Speaker 2 (02:22):
He pushed me back into that guy standing behind me,
and he was like, yeah, and he just walks away.
But what am I gonna do? I mean, he's half
a foot.
Speaker 3 (02:29):
Taller than me.
Speaker 1 (02:30):
Yeah, he was enormous. He was like out of a movie.
He was a movie bad guy. He was that big.
Did you see him? I mean, I didn't know. The
people from mom Donnie seemed to come out of the
woodwork after you went after him. Did you notice that,
you know, there was a woman that came and grabbed
his arm.
Speaker 2 (02:48):
I noticed it on the video playback, of course I
didn't notice it at the time that it was happening. See,
I've been doing this for about eight years and most
recently around this Tesla dealership, been going there for the
past three weeks on Saturday and observing what's.
Speaker 3 (03:03):
Been going on.
Speaker 2 (03:04):
And there's a unit of the NYPD called the Community
Affairs Unit, and they wear a different uniform than regular NYPD.
They wear a very almost irridescent royal blue, much more casual,
kind of like fleece or depending on the season, but
it's always a very, very high viz royal blue. And
(03:28):
what I've noticed even before this Tesla incident is that
there are certain individuals who appear around New York City
who will have an article of clothing that matches that
high visibility royal blue.
Speaker 3 (03:41):
And due to that and.
Speaker 2 (03:44):
Other evidence, I believe those people are somehow associated with
this Community Affairs Unit. Now, what I've noticed in these
Tesla crowds are people wearing that high visibility color. The
guy who comes in body checks me is wearing high
viz orange, So that's not what I'm talking about.
Speaker 3 (03:59):
But they do seem to have color coding.
Speaker 2 (04:02):
There were people with the Extinction Rebellion logo, which is
one of these nonprofit organizations that gets behind these things.
Speaker 3 (04:10):
There was one guy walking around.
Speaker 2 (04:12):
With three different colored flags. One was this high viz blue,
one was high viz yellow, and one was white. And
so I suspect these are signals to people in the
crowd and people wearing different clothing and these color coded items.
Go back and look at the videos, You'll see what
I'm talking about. High visibility blue in this crowd, and
(04:32):
particularly if people go to my ex account, if I
you don't mind, if I should not.
Speaker 1 (04:39):
At all, I want people to come and find you.
Speaker 2 (04:41):
Yeah, if they go on there at JG like Jason
Goodman underscore CSTT like Crowdsource to Truth, so on x
at JG underscore CSTT. You look at these encounters I'm
having in the crowd, and you'll see.
Speaker 3 (04:56):
Who gathers around me.
Speaker 2 (04:58):
They're wearing you know, mets, and they're all conveniently wearing
this high visibility blue when I start, and certain journalists.
You'll see, certain people wear a hoodie. And when I
ask the police a question. I don't know if you
saw this other video, but I walk up to these
two police officers and I say, here's someone holding a
sign that says burn a tesla. I mean, this is
(05:19):
a public incitement to violence. You're police officers, How are
you standing here and allowing this to happen. This sixty
two year old, fat, bald dude who looks like he'd
be like a news photographer for the Post. He's just
strides up to me and he's like, oh, this is
First Amendment blah blah blah, and I'm like, why are
(05:40):
you getting involved in my conversation with the police.
Speaker 3 (05:43):
It's the most bizarre thing. So I walk away, this
guy's following me.
Speaker 2 (05:47):
I'm asking the police, why tell this guy to get
away from me? Why are you protecting him? And then
this crowd of people where wearing high visibility blue hats
crowds around me. So it wasn't just our beloved maorial candidate.
This is a coordinated incident.
Speaker 3 (06:04):
In my opinion, Yeah, I get it.
Speaker 1 (06:06):
And so the question is who's coordinating it? And the
question is who's at the top of this? And the
question is how does it all happen nationally at the
very same time. You're absolutely right, there is someone running
all of this and organizing it, and that's the big question.
And Jason, it was a pleasure to talk to you.
I would love to talk again because you're a wealth
(06:27):
of information journalist. Jason Goodman, founder of Crowdsource the Truth.
Speaker 2 (06:32):
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