September 7, 2025 • 7 mins
Gary Myers started covering the NFL in 1978 and was in the press box at Candlestick Park for The Catch on January 10, 1982, as the beat writer covering the Cowboys for the Dallas Morning News. In 1989, he not only joined the New York Daily News, but also began a thirteen-season run as the inside information reporter for HBO’s popular Inside the NFL. Myers has also hosted the YES Network’s This Week in Football since 2002.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
This is a podcast from WOR Here's Larry Minty with
more of the wr Saturday morning show. Pro football is
back and both New York teams are set to play
tomorrow at one o'clock. So what does the season hold
for the Jets and the Giants? Let's ask Gary Myers,
former NFL columnist for The Daily News and author of
(00:22):
the new book Brady Versus Belichick, The Dynasty Debate. Gary,
thanks so much for spending time with us this morning.
Speaker 2 (00:30):
My pleasure. Larry, how you doing today?
Speaker 1 (00:32):
I'm doing well. How do you think the Jets and
the Giants are doing well?
Speaker 2 (00:37):
You know, I think the Giants are going to be
better this year. They'll get better play a quarterback from
Russell Wilson, although he's just a placeholder until the rookie
Jackson Dart is ready to play. But they have improved
the team around the quarterback. Now they just need the
quarterback to step up and give them comping and play,
(00:57):
which they haven't gotten the last few years. But I
can see the Giants, you know, perhaps in December still
being a contender for a wild card spot. I wouldn't
necessarily pick him to make the playoffs this year, but
I think it's going to be a season that at
least around Thanksgiving there'll still be some interest.
Speaker 1 (01:16):
People are really excited about Jackson Dart and he has
a swagger about him. He looked really good in the preseason.
Does that carry over to a regular season, and if so,
when will we see him starting?
Speaker 2 (01:30):
Well, i'll answer the second part. First, we'll see him
if either Russell Wilson gets hurt or if the Giants
are struggling and they want to make a change. Now
they've listed Dards as a second string quarterback on the
depth chart, which I won't say that I know anything different,
but I am a little skeptical that maybe because it's
(01:50):
just surprising to me if Wilson was to get hurt
on Sunday, that they wouldn't go to Jameis Winston, you know,
a veteran, rather than going to a rookie right away.
But I mean, I think I think they should go
to Dart. I like what I saw him in the preseason,
But nobody game plans defensively in the in the preseason,
(02:10):
he's going against mainly second stringers because nowadays, nobody plays
in the preseason and the speed of the game changes completely.
When the regular season starts, so to say what he
did in August is going to carry over to September,
October or whenever this year. I think, you know, you
kind of you know, connecting trying to connect and docs
(02:33):
they might not might not work. But I do think
he's gonna be a good player.
Speaker 1 (02:39):
There's some I thought I was just going to ask
you exactly what you said at the end, But there's
some things you can see right when you look at
a preseason game. It doesn't matter who he's playing against,
the decisions he make, can he takes it, Can he
take a hit? Can he avoid a hit? Does he
make those passes in this tough situations? I think that
he got a's across the board in all of those things.
Speaker 2 (02:59):
Yeah, I don't think the Giants could have asked anything
more to see in preseason games than they got from him.
And the thing I like about him, he seems to
be a leader that even the veterans gravitate towards him,
that he like you said that he does have a
swagger about him. He broke all Eli Manning's records at
ole Miss. Giants have had good success with ole Miss
(03:21):
quarterbacks going back to Charlie Connolly. He had good coaching
in college with Lane Kiffin, who's been an NFL coach.
He's been a big time college coach for a number
of years. He's an offensive coach, so he comes here
with the right pedigree. They made a great move moving
back into the ends of their first round to take him,
and now you just.
Speaker 1 (03:39):
Got to wait. They look brilliant by the way.
Speaker 2 (03:41):
Yeah, I mean, he's got to get on the field
at some point this season because they do want him
to start next year.
Speaker 1 (03:46):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (03:47):
Now, Patrick Mahomes. Mahomes is kind of the outlier where
as a rookie he only played in the last game
of the regular season. Then he took over the next year,
his second year, and he's been great ever since. I
think you want to get on on the rookies on
the field a little earlier than the last game of
the year because you want to you know, he's gonna
have rough patches and if the Giants season, if the
(04:08):
Giants are not contenders by say mid November at the latest,
then you want him to get the bumps in the
road out of the way so he can hit the
ground running next year.
Speaker 1 (04:18):
Absolutely, let me tell you, Jets fans. I'll get to
the Jets in one second. I want to talk about
one other player with Gary, and that is Abdul Carter.
I've been watching him play since high school really and
then at Penn State. He is special. I have never
seen anybody with that quick of a first step.
Speaker 2 (04:36):
Yeah, I mean, he looks like he's going to be
a special player, and everybody wants to say, oh, he's
the next LT. We've been waiting for the next LT
for thirty years. Nobody's ever going to be Lawrence Teller.
But he has some of the same traits and if
they can get he can be seventy five percent of
Lawrence Teller, and the Giants had a home run by
drafting him.
Speaker 1 (04:55):
Let's talk about the Jets, because you're right, things are
looking better for them, but they've been looking better for
a long time. Every year was going to be their year,
and then there's been some disappointment, not of their own making,
because of injuries. So do you think this is it?
You just said a moment ago you think they're gonna
make the playoffs.
Speaker 2 (05:14):
No, I didn't say that about the Jets. Oh, okay,
I said that the Giants could possibly contend for a
wildcard spot. No, I don't think the Jets make you see,
I don't think the Giants are going to compete for
a wildcard spot. So when you said wildcard spot, I
assumed it was the Jets. Oh, it's a bad assumption
on your part. I'm not sold on Justin Fields as
(05:34):
a quarterback at all. I mean, he was born too
for Pittsburgh last year and he got bench win Russell Wilson,
of all people, was healthy. He had thrown for over
two hundred yards just in two of his six starts.
The biggest problem with Justin Fields as a quarterback is
his ability to throw an accurate pass, which is a
big problem for a quarterback. You want your quarterback to
(05:55):
be accurate. He runs the ball as well as anybody
in the league except maybe Lamar Jackson. But you can't
win just relying on your quarterback to run the ball.
So it's another transition year for the Jets. That don't
want to fans don't want to hear that. And but
with a new coach, new general manager, I see the
(06:16):
Jets winning five or six games.
Speaker 1 (06:18):
All Right, we're gonna have to agree to disagree. I'll
tell you what we can make a gentleman's bet, because
I think the Jets might make the playoffs and the
Giants will not make the playoffs and they're gonna step forward.
So that'll be the gentleman's bet between the two of us.
Because everybody has an opinion. Not as accomplished as yours,
but everybody has an opinion. Let's talk about the new book.
(06:39):
This is a fascinating topic, the dynasty debate, Brady or Belichick.
Let's skip right to the ending. Who wins?
Speaker 2 (06:49):
You know, It's like it's like my book reports in
uh in junior high school, where I would write it
out and I, of course I didn't read the book,
and at the end of the book it ended the book.
I said, I'm not gonna go. I don't want to
give away the ending, you know, which is my way
telling the teacher I didn't read it, but I'm trying
to hide that from you. But I will say I
(07:09):
don't think there's any doubt that it was was Brady.
The issue really is what percentage do you want? It
was signed to each of them because they couldn't have
done it without each other. But ultimately, when you evaluate
a twenty year period, Brady was more important, but you
do have to read the book and get to the
ending to find out the percentages I signed to each.
Speaker 1 (07:29):
Gary Meyer is his new book, Brady Versus Belichick The
Dynasty Debate, is available for pre order right now on
Amazon dot com. This has been a podcast from wor
This is a podcast from WOR Here's Larry Minty with
more of the wr Saturday morning show. Pro football is
back and both New York teams are set to play
tomorrow at one o'clock. So what does the season hold
for the Jets and the Giants? Let's ask Gary Myers,
former NFL columnist for The Daily News and author of
(00:22):
the new book Brady Versus Belichick, The Dynasty Debate. Gary,
thanks so much for spending time with us this morning.
Speaker 2 (00:30):
My pleasure. Larry, how you doing today?
Speaker 1 (00:32):
I'm doing well. How do you think the Jets and
the Giants are doing well?
Speaker 2 (00:37):
You know, I think the Giants are going to be
better this year. They'll get better play a quarterback from
Russell Wilson, although he's just a placeholder until the rookie
Jackson Dart is ready to play. But they have improved
the team around the quarterback. Now they just need the
quarterback to step up and give them comping and play,
(00:57):
which they haven't gotten the last few years. But I
can see the Giants, you know, perhaps in December still
being a contender for a wild card spot. I wouldn't
necessarily pick him to make the playoffs this year, but
I think it's going to be a season that at
least around Thanksgiving there'll still be some interest.
Speaker 1 (01:16):
People are really excited about Jackson Dart and he has
a swagger about him. He looked really good in the preseason.
Does that carry over to a regular season, and if so,
when will we see him starting?
Speaker 2 (01:30):
Well, i'll answer the second part. First, we'll see him
if either Russell Wilson gets hurt or if the Giants
are struggling and they want to make a change. Now
they've listed Dards as a second string quarterback on the
depth chart, which I won't say that I know anything different,
but I am a little skeptical that maybe because it's
(01:50):
just surprising to me if Wilson was to get hurt
on Sunday, that they wouldn't go to Jameis Winston, you know,
a veteran, rather than going to a rookie right away.
But I mean, I think I think they should go
to Dart. I like what I saw him in the preseason,
But nobody game plans defensively in the in the preseason,
(02:10):
he's going against mainly second stringers because nowadays, nobody plays
in the preseason and the speed of the game changes completely.
When the regular season starts, so to say what he
did in August is going to carry over to September,
October or whenever this year. I think, you know, you
kind of you know, connecting trying to connect and docs
(02:33):
they might not might not work. But I do think
he's gonna be a good player.
Speaker 1 (02:39):
There's some I thought I was just going to ask
you exactly what you said at the end, But there's
some things you can see right when you look at
a preseason game. It doesn't matter who he's playing against,
the decisions he make, can he takes it, Can he
take a hit? Can he avoid a hit? Does he
make those passes in this tough situations? I think that
he got a's across the board in all of those things.
Speaker 2 (02:59):
Yeah, I don't think the Giants could have asked anything
more to see in preseason games than they got from him.
And the thing I like about him, he seems to
be a leader that even the veterans gravitate towards him,
that he like you said that he does have a
swagger about him. He broke all Eli Manning's records at
ole Miss. Giants have had good success with ole Miss
(03:21):
quarterbacks going back to Charlie Connolly. He had good coaching
in college with Lane Kiffin, who's been an NFL coach.
He's been a big time college coach for a number
of years. He's an offensive coach, so he comes here
with the right pedigree. They made a great move moving
back into the ends of their first round to take him,
and now you just.
Speaker 1 (03:39):
Got to wait. They look brilliant by the way.
Speaker 2 (03:41):
Yeah, I mean, he's got to get on the field
at some point this season because they do want him
to start next year.
Speaker 1 (03:46):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (03:47):
Now, Patrick Mahomes. Mahomes is kind of the outlier where
as a rookie he only played in the last game
of the regular season. Then he took over the next year,
his second year, and he's been great ever since. I
think you want to get on on the rookies on
the field a little earlier than the last game of
the year because you want to you know, he's gonna
have rough patches and if the Giants season, if the
(04:08):
Giants are not contenders by say mid November at the latest,
then you want him to get the bumps in the
road out of the way so he can hit the
ground running next year.
Speaker 1 (04:18):
Absolutely, let me tell you, Jets fans. I'll get to
the Jets in one second. I want to talk about
one other player with Gary, and that is Abdul Carter.
I've been watching him play since high school really and
then at Penn State. He is special. I have never
seen anybody with that quick of a first step.
Speaker 2 (04:36):
Yeah, I mean, he looks like he's going to be
a special player, and everybody wants to say, oh, he's
the next LT. We've been waiting for the next LT
for thirty years. Nobody's ever going to be Lawrence Teller.
But he has some of the same traits and if
they can get he can be seventy five percent of
Lawrence Teller, and the Giants had a home run by
drafting him.
Speaker 1 (04:55):
Let's talk about the Jets, because you're right, things are
looking better for them, but they've been looking better for
a long time. Every year was going to be their year,
and then there's been some disappointment, not of their own making,
because of injuries. So do you think this is it?
You just said a moment ago you think they're gonna
make the playoffs.
Speaker 2 (05:14):
No, I didn't say that about the Jets. Oh, okay,
I said that the Giants could possibly contend for a
wildcard spot. No, I don't think the Jets make you see,
I don't think the Giants are going to compete for
a wildcard spot. So when you said wildcard spot, I
assumed it was the Jets. Oh, it's a bad assumption
on your part. I'm not sold on Justin Fields as
(05:34):
a quarterback at all. I mean, he was born too
for Pittsburgh last year and he got bench win Russell Wilson,
of all people, was healthy. He had thrown for over
two hundred yards just in two of his six starts.
The biggest problem with Justin Fields as a quarterback is
his ability to throw an accurate pass, which is a
big problem for a quarterback. You want your quarterback to
(05:55):
be accurate. He runs the ball as well as anybody
in the league except maybe Lamar Jackson. But you can't
win just relying on your quarterback to run the ball.
So it's another transition year for the Jets. That don't
want to fans don't want to hear that. And but
with a new coach, new general manager, I see the
(06:16):
Jets winning five or six games.
Speaker 1 (06:18):
All Right, we're gonna have to agree to disagree. I'll
tell you what we can make a gentleman's bet, because
I think the Jets might make the playoffs and the
Giants will not make the playoffs and they're gonna step forward.
So that'll be the gentleman's bet between the two of us.
Because everybody has an opinion. Not as accomplished as yours,
but everybody has an opinion. Let's talk about the new book.
(06:39):
This is a fascinating topic, the dynasty debate, Brady or Belichick.
Let's skip right to the ending. Who wins?
Speaker 2 (06:49):
You know, It's like it's like my book reports in
uh in junior high school, where I would write it
out and I, of course I didn't read the book,
and at the end of the book it ended the book.
I said, I'm not gonna go. I don't want to
give away the ending, you know, which is my way
telling the teacher I didn't read it, but I'm trying
to hide that from you. But I will say I
(07:09):
don't think there's any doubt that it was was Brady.
The issue really is what percentage do you want? It
was signed to each of them because they couldn't have
done it without each other. But ultimately, when you evaluate
a twenty year period, Brady was more important, but you
do have to read the book and get to the
ending to find out the percentages I signed to each.
Speaker 1 (07:29):
Gary Meyer is his new book, Brady Versus Belichick The
Dynasty Debate, is available for pre order right now on
Amazon dot com. This has been a podcast from wor
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