August 10, 2025 • 7 mins
Giacchino ''Jack'' Ciattarelli is an American politician and businessman. A member of the Republican Party, he served in the New Jersey General Assembly from 2011 to 2018, representing the 16th legislative district. He was also the Republican nominee in the 2021 New Jersey gubernatorial election, which he narrowly lost to incumbent Democrat Phil Murphy. Ciattarelli announced that he is running for the Republican nomination in the 2025 New Jersey gubernatorial election.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
This is a podcast from dou Wor Back now to
the WR Saturday Morning Show with Larry Minty.
Speaker 2 (00:08):
Welcome back. Four years ago.
Speaker 1 (00:09):
Jack Chittarelli was the Republican candidate for governor and he
came so close to knocking off the Democratic governor Phil Murphy.
He's the Republican candidate again in twenty twenty five, and
this time he's taking on Congresswoman Mikey Cheryl Nice job
on Hannity, and I really give him credit for saying
to you, I'm sorry about four years ago.
Speaker 2 (00:31):
I didn't see you coming. Larry.
Speaker 3 (00:33):
You paid this phrase the attention it deserved back in
twenty one. A few others didn't, but listen, it was
great to hear that too from Sean Andy. I'm just
really glad the nation is paying attention to this race
because I'm telling you we're gonna win it this year.
Speaker 1 (00:47):
Well, you're closer than you were you were four years ago,
so if the polls are as bad as they were,
then you're gonna win it by a landslide. Because I
remember people just writing you off because of the polls,
and they and they shouldn't have. They made a fatal
mistake had they given you that little bit of an
extra push, we'd be calling you governor right now.
Speaker 3 (01:07):
Well, there's a couple of these universities that should really
get out of the polling business, Larry. One of them
had me down by twenty one points after the primary.
They had me down by forty one points last time.
They had Kamala Harris winning the state last year by
twenty pole two weeks after Rutgers did that poll, after
you said I was down by only eight points. So somehow, someway,
in a matter of two weeks, I picked up thirteen points.
(01:28):
You really can't trust these university polls.
Speaker 1 (01:30):
Yeah, there has to be a study on those polls
in New Jersey. You're right, they've been just awful on this.
So you did say something during the Sean Hannery interview
that really got my attention, and that and thanks so
much for coming on.
Speaker 2 (01:43):
That's the reason I wanted to talk to you today.
Speaker 1 (01:45):
You said that the Democrat that's running against you, Congresswoman
Mikey Cheryl, has quadrupled her wealth since she's been in office.
What are you alleging.
Speaker 3 (01:57):
Tripled her net worth since she treatened to office only
six year years ago, Larry, and not only that, but
she was found guilty of filing in federal law on
stock trades and stock reporting for congress people. And when
she was asked during that interview how that happened, she
couldn't answer the question. It's a disqualifier. People hate it,
hate it when people use public service as a way
(02:20):
to enrich themselves.
Speaker 2 (02:21):
That's exactly what she's done.
Speaker 1 (02:22):
Yeah, and now there's a bill to stop this. So
what you're saying is, and I guess there's some evidence
of this, is that she's the Nancy Pelosi of New Jersey.
Speaker 2 (02:32):
Well, Larry, here's the thing.
Speaker 3 (02:33):
Even if she's not guilty of a single thing, even
though we know she is, she paid the fines for
violating federal law on this matter. But if you're a
congress person, if you're sitting on the House Intelligence Committee,
do you not consider concerning yourself one bit with perception?
If you're trading defense stocks and we're not talking about
five hundred shares, we're talking about hundreds of thousand shares,
How could you be trading defense stocks when you're a
(02:54):
congress person sitting on the House Intelligence Committee? Do you
not concern yourself one bit with perception?
Speaker 1 (03:00):
And I think there's so many of them in Congress.
She's just one of many, and they're trying to change
the law right now to put an end to.
Speaker 2 (03:08):
All of this.
Speaker 1 (03:09):
But I guess if you play this out, what you're
saying to the people of New Jersey, if she did
this in her federal office, what's she going to do
when she has the power. By the way, the governor
of New Jersey is the most powerful gubernatorial ship in
the country. What will she do when she gets that
kind of power as the head of New Jersey.
Speaker 3 (03:28):
It does beg the question and is also a question
of character. But listen, Larry, we saw this with Corsin.
He was from Illinois, came here, became governor. We saw
this with Murphy, he came from Massachusetts to become governor.
We saw how those two worked out. Mikey sure's not
from New Jersey. So as I go around the state
New Jersey, I state to people, I've got a really
interesting idea for you to consider.
Speaker 1 (03:48):
How about we elect a Jersey guy. You have a
bit of a quandary. I would think maybe you don't. Now,
maybe I'm assuming something that's not really true. You have
Donald Trump's endorsement and that's great. That's great that he's
come out and endorsed you. He has he gets a
mixed reaction in New Jersey. Do you want him to
(04:08):
come and hold a rally and have you up there
with him.
Speaker 3 (04:11):
We're in constant communication with the White House to decide
how best to use the White House and President Trump
to work together to win the election.
Speaker 2 (04:19):
Here's what people need to know, Larry in New Jersey
right now.
Speaker 3 (04:21):
According to the latest polls, Murphy and Trump pull out
about the same in New Jersey, once at forty four percent,
ones at forty five percent.
Speaker 2 (04:30):
Number two.
Speaker 3 (04:31):
More than one out of very two people feel that
New Jersey's heading in the wrong direction. But here's the
other very interesting thing about that poll. Twenty three percent
of the people in New Jersey felt that Trump is
the issue in this governor's race. Seventy two percent want
to talk about New Jersey issues like affordability, public safety,
public education, over development, the cost of electricity. And that's
(04:51):
what we're going to do over the course of these
last ninety days to win it.
Speaker 1 (04:54):
One of the things that's happened in New Jersey that
I've never understood because I look at Pennsylvania and I
look at the natural gas and how rich that state
has become because of fracking and natural gas, and pipeline
after pipeline and project after a project in New Jersey
has been stopped.
Speaker 2 (05:10):
Over the years.
Speaker 1 (05:11):
Are you going to allow those pipelines? Are you going
to allow the exploration for natural gas in New Jersey?
Speaker 3 (05:17):
What we're gonna do is reopen the plants to film
or be closed down that burn natural gas to produce electricity.
We're going to expand our nuclear footprint in South Jersey.
We're not gonna go with those wind farms off our
Jersey shore, and we'll put the.
Speaker 2 (05:30):
Pedal to the metal on Stolar.
Speaker 3 (05:32):
I need energy in the state to bring down people's
monthly electric bills. The Democratic governor of Pennsylvania, to your point,
is burning seven cool burning plants natural gas like there's
no tomorrow. Just cut the ribbon on a fourth nuclear reactor.
Pennsylvania's got the juice.
Speaker 2 (05:47):
We don't.
Speaker 3 (05:47):
Their bills are low, hours are high, and they're getting
all the new business, including data centers that are needed
to support AI. Are we going to compete or not
under Governor Cheddarelli, Larry, We're gonna compete.
Speaker 1 (05:58):
Yeah, in Pennsylvania. I know for a fact the money
that goes into that budget from all of the natural
gas facilities and all the power facilities in that state.
That's the reason they haven't had to raised taxes in
a long time because they are rich from the natural gas.
Which is why a Democrat got in the office and said,
oh no, no, no, no, we're not stopping this. And
(06:18):
so I think people should really pay attention to this
because I would have I don't know how Mikey Cheryl,
which she stands on this, but I would imagine she's
with most Democrats in saying she's not going to allow
this to happen.
Speaker 3 (06:30):
And she's with the Phil Murphy Energy Plan he just
doubled down on when the EV mandates not burning natural gas.
And so this is what got us in the mess
we're in today. You know, Larry, when he took office
in twenty eighteen, New Jersey was an electricity.
Speaker 2 (06:44):
Out We exported electricity.
Speaker 3 (06:47):
Today we import it through these exchanges and we're paying
through the nose, which is why everybody's monthly bill is
going through the roof.
Speaker 2 (06:53):
They totally ruined the energy market.
Speaker 3 (06:54):
My opponent's trying to blame it on the president and
the exchanges that are out there. It all has to
do with film Murphy's energy policies, which she endorsed, so
we'll reverse it on day one in my administration.
Speaker 1 (07:05):
Well, for that many reasons, I can't imagine anybody else
is gonna have a chance except for Jack Chitarelli, Republican
candidate for New Jersey governor. We're all pulling for you. Jack,
Come on as much as you want, Larry.
Speaker 2 (07:16):
We're gonna get it done. Thank you, and looking forward
to next time.
Speaker 3 (07:19):
This has been a podcast from wor
This is a podcast from dou Wor Back now to
the WR Saturday Morning Show with Larry Minty.
Speaker 2 (00:08):
Welcome back. Four years ago.
Speaker 1 (00:09):
Jack Chittarelli was the Republican candidate for governor and he
came so close to knocking off the Democratic governor Phil Murphy.
He's the Republican candidate again in twenty twenty five, and
this time he's taking on Congresswoman Mikey Cheryl Nice job
on Hannity, and I really give him credit for saying
to you, I'm sorry about four years ago.
Speaker 2 (00:31):
I didn't see you coming. Larry.
Speaker 3 (00:33):
You paid this phrase the attention it deserved back in
twenty one. A few others didn't, but listen, it was
great to hear that too from Sean Andy. I'm just
really glad the nation is paying attention to this race
because I'm telling you we're gonna win it this year.
Speaker 1 (00:47):
Well, you're closer than you were you were four years ago,
so if the polls are as bad as they were,
then you're gonna win it by a landslide. Because I
remember people just writing you off because of the polls,
and they and they shouldn't have. They made a fatal
mistake had they given you that little bit of an
extra push, we'd be calling you governor right now.
Speaker 3 (01:07):
Well, there's a couple of these universities that should really
get out of the polling business, Larry. One of them
had me down by twenty one points after the primary.
They had me down by forty one points last time.
They had Kamala Harris winning the state last year by
twenty pole two weeks after Rutgers did that poll, after
you said I was down by only eight points. So somehow, someway,
in a matter of two weeks, I picked up thirteen points.
(01:28):
You really can't trust these university polls.
Speaker 1 (01:30):
Yeah, there has to be a study on those polls
in New Jersey. You're right, they've been just awful on this.
So you did say something during the Sean Hannery interview
that really got my attention, and that and thanks so
much for coming on.
Speaker 2 (01:43):
That's the reason I wanted to talk to you today.
Speaker 1 (01:45):
You said that the Democrat that's running against you, Congresswoman
Mikey Cheryl, has quadrupled her wealth since she's been in office.
What are you alleging.
Speaker 3 (01:57):
Tripled her net worth since she treatened to office only
six year years ago, Larry, and not only that, but
she was found guilty of filing in federal law on
stock trades and stock reporting for congress people. And when
she was asked during that interview how that happened, she
couldn't answer the question. It's a disqualifier. People hate it,
hate it when people use public service as a way
(02:20):
to enrich themselves.
Speaker 2 (02:21):
That's exactly what she's done.
Speaker 1 (02:22):
Yeah, and now there's a bill to stop this. So
what you're saying is, and I guess there's some evidence
of this, is that she's the Nancy Pelosi of New Jersey.
Speaker 2 (02:32):
Well, Larry, here's the thing.
Speaker 3 (02:33):
Even if she's not guilty of a single thing, even
though we know she is, she paid the fines for
violating federal law on this matter. But if you're a
congress person, if you're sitting on the House Intelligence Committee,
do you not consider concerning yourself one bit with perception?
If you're trading defense stocks and we're not talking about
five hundred shares, we're talking about hundreds of thousand shares,
How could you be trading defense stocks when you're a
(02:54):
congress person sitting on the House Intelligence Committee? Do you
not concern yourself one bit with perception?
Speaker 1 (03:00):
And I think there's so many of them in Congress.
She's just one of many, and they're trying to change
the law right now to put an end to.
Speaker 2 (03:08):
All of this.
Speaker 1 (03:09):
But I guess if you play this out, what you're
saying to the people of New Jersey, if she did
this in her federal office, what's she going to do
when she has the power. By the way, the governor
of New Jersey is the most powerful gubernatorial ship in
the country. What will she do when she gets that
kind of power as the head of New Jersey.
Speaker 3 (03:28):
It does beg the question and is also a question
of character. But listen, Larry, we saw this with Corsin.
He was from Illinois, came here, became governor. We saw
this with Murphy, he came from Massachusetts to become governor.
We saw how those two worked out. Mikey sure's not
from New Jersey. So as I go around the state
New Jersey, I state to people, I've got a really
interesting idea for you to consider.
Speaker 1 (03:48):
How about we elect a Jersey guy. You have a
bit of a quandary. I would think maybe you don't. Now,
maybe I'm assuming something that's not really true. You have
Donald Trump's endorsement and that's great. That's great that he's
come out and endorsed you. He has he gets a
mixed reaction in New Jersey. Do you want him to
(04:08):
come and hold a rally and have you up there
with him.
Speaker 3 (04:11):
We're in constant communication with the White House to decide
how best to use the White House and President Trump
to work together to win the election.
Speaker 2 (04:19):
Here's what people need to know, Larry in New Jersey
right now.
Speaker 3 (04:21):
According to the latest polls, Murphy and Trump pull out
about the same in New Jersey, once at forty four percent,
ones at forty five percent.
Speaker 2 (04:30):
Number two.
Speaker 3 (04:31):
More than one out of very two people feel that
New Jersey's heading in the wrong direction. But here's the
other very interesting thing about that poll. Twenty three percent
of the people in New Jersey felt that Trump is
the issue in this governor's race. Seventy two percent want
to talk about New Jersey issues like affordability, public safety,
public education, over development, the cost of electricity. And that's
(04:51):
what we're going to do over the course of these
last ninety days to win it.
Speaker 1 (04:54):
One of the things that's happened in New Jersey that
I've never understood because I look at Pennsylvania and I
look at the natural gas and how rich that state
has become because of fracking and natural gas, and pipeline
after pipeline and project after a project in New Jersey
has been stopped.
Speaker 2 (05:10):
Over the years.
Speaker 1 (05:11):
Are you going to allow those pipelines? Are you going
to allow the exploration for natural gas in New Jersey?
Speaker 3 (05:17):
What we're gonna do is reopen the plants to film
or be closed down that burn natural gas to produce electricity.
We're going to expand our nuclear footprint in South Jersey.
We're not gonna go with those wind farms off our
Jersey shore, and we'll put the.
Speaker 2 (05:30):
Pedal to the metal on Stolar.
Speaker 3 (05:32):
I need energy in the state to bring down people's
monthly electric bills. The Democratic governor of Pennsylvania, to your point,
is burning seven cool burning plants natural gas like there's
no tomorrow. Just cut the ribbon on a fourth nuclear reactor.
Pennsylvania's got the juice.
Speaker 2 (05:47):
We don't.
Speaker 3 (05:47):
Their bills are low, hours are high, and they're getting
all the new business, including data centers that are needed
to support AI. Are we going to compete or not
under Governor Cheddarelli, Larry, We're gonna compete.
Speaker 1 (05:58):
Yeah, in Pennsylvania. I know for a fact the money
that goes into that budget from all of the natural
gas facilities and all the power facilities in that state.
That's the reason they haven't had to raised taxes in
a long time because they are rich from the natural gas.
Which is why a Democrat got in the office and said,
oh no, no, no, no, we're not stopping this. And
(06:18):
so I think people should really pay attention to this
because I would have I don't know how Mikey Cheryl,
which she stands on this, but I would imagine she's
with most Democrats in saying she's not going to allow
this to happen.
Speaker 3 (06:30):
And she's with the Phil Murphy Energy Plan he just
doubled down on when the EV mandates not burning natural gas.
And so this is what got us in the mess
we're in today. You know, Larry, when he took office
in twenty eighteen, New Jersey was an electricity.
Speaker 2 (06:44):
Out We exported electricity.
Speaker 3 (06:47):
Today we import it through these exchanges and we're paying
through the nose, which is why everybody's monthly bill is
going through the roof.
Speaker 2 (06:53):
They totally ruined the energy market.
Speaker 3 (06:54):
My opponent's trying to blame it on the president and
the exchanges that are out there. It all has to
do with film Murphy's energy policies, which she endorsed, so
we'll reverse it on day one in my administration.
Speaker 1 (07:05):
Well, for that many reasons, I can't imagine anybody else
is gonna have a chance except for Jack Chitarelli, Republican
candidate for New Jersey governor. We're all pulling for you. Jack,
Come on as much as you want, Larry.
Speaker 2 (07:16):
We're gonna get it done. Thank you, and looking forward
to next time.
Speaker 3 (07:19):
This has been a podcast from wor
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