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September 20, 2025 6 mins
Mary Rooke is a Catholic mom of four and author of the Daily Caller's column featuring based takes on modern-day insanities.  She also writes analysis for Patriot subscribers.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
This is a podcast from wor Now more of the
wr Saturday Morning Show and Larry Minty. The death of
Charlie Kirk has brought a week of national mourning, but
in its wake a new purpose, a new awakening, and
possibly a new leader to carry on. So says Mary Rook,

(00:22):
opinion columnist for The Daily Caller. Mary, I loved your
I loved your column this week. I really did. I
want to talk about the revival in a moment, but
first let's talk about you personally. And I know you
were moved and you were shocked and you were saddened
by the death of Charlie Kirk. Can you tell us
what your immediate reaction was and how that reaction has

(00:45):
grown to this column.

Speaker 2 (00:47):
You know, I think, like millions of Americans, I wanted
to believe it wasn't true. It was so such a
blow to your senses and every sense of the word. It,
you know, kind of makes you fearful to be a conservative.
You go through those stages of grief like everyone else.
But then I woke up and you know, watching Erica

(01:07):
Kirk be so strong in her first address to the nation,
it lit a fire in me and I thought, Okay,
This is exactly the type of woman that I want
my daughters to be. This is exactly the type of
woman that I want to be. And what am I
going to do from here? And like, let's make actionable
changes to our society and wake people up. You know.

(01:29):
I think the kind of the overarching you know theme
here and especially with Charlie Kirk's message is and he
said this several times God, Family, country, and so we
need to be moving forward in those action plans in
order to keep Charlie's memory alive in our nation.

Speaker 1 (01:46):
That was really well said. What do you expect to happen? Now?
I think everybody there is a growing movement already in
the country. I don't think that the Democrats and certainly
Tyler Robinson saw this, but there has been already a
sort of revival that is looking for a leader, that
is looking for a path forward. What do you expect

(02:09):
to happen?

Speaker 2 (02:10):
You know, I think we all woke up. I've seen
video after video after video of men saying I haven't
been to church in years. I've been neglecting, you know,
this faith aspect of my life with my family, and
I'm going to do what Charlie Kirk said, which is
be a strong husband, be a strong father, and lead
my family in this way. So I think that's really beautiful.

(02:32):
One of the things that I said in the piece
is that Charlie is a one of a kind. He
was this man who understood what it meant to be
a father and a husband, understood what it meant to
be a man in this day and age when they're
attacked all the time. How do you stand strong and
all of those things. I don't think that he's replaceable.
That's the sad reality of it. However, I do think

(02:55):
that in his death, there's far more good in the
world with all of these people, and it's going to
take everyone to fill his shoes. I think that's the
sad reality. There's not going to be kind of one
king maker that passes the torch. We saw yesterday that
Charlie Kirk's wife, Erica, is going to start leading tps
tp UFA, which I think is such a great idea.

(03:17):
I saw on his show yesterday that Megan Kelly was hosting,
where one of the men said that someone called Erica
very important person. He wouldn't say who. Shortly after Charlie
Kirk's death, and they asked her who, how much do
you know? And he said her response was everything. So

(03:39):
I don't think there's any better person to, you know,
handle the juggernaut that is turning point USA. I think
this is going to be a really great move. And
then if you watched her address, and if you haven't,
I really urge you to go back and watch it
because it was so powerful and so meaningful. I think
it was one of those moments where you clearly saw

(04:00):
one how much she loved Charlie and two how driven
she is going to be. I mean, I made this
comment the other day that they're in that type of woman.
There's absolutely nothing she won't do to see something succeed
if you hurt the man that she loves. And I
think that's that's what we're seeing in this movement. We
need more women like that to stand up alongside their

(04:21):
husbands and you know, their fathers and all of those
things to help lead this country out of the darkness.

Speaker 1 (04:26):
And Sunday is a huge moment for her because a
lot of eyes will be watching to see if she
can be the person that takes over. I can't imagine.
I can't imagine Mary. The pressure on her for that day.
But I have a feeling she's going to rise to
the occasion, do you, Oh?

Speaker 2 (04:43):
Absolutely. I mean when you watch the address, I'm sitting
here thinking if that were my husband, if that had
happened to me, would I have had the strength to
stand up and give that speech and you know, not
break down every five seconds? And she held so strong.
I think that she, you know, God made her built
for this moment and it's you know, it's tragic, and

(05:04):
it's sad, and it's all of those things that Thank God,
Charlie Kirk has a wife like Erica, who you know,
I think really well rise to the moment. We saw
that on Friday, and I expect nothing less on Sunday,
although I will admit that the pressure I feel like
now as she's moving through these stages of grief is
even more than it was when she gave her first address. So,

(05:27):
like you, I'm very interested to see how that all
you know, transpires. But I do believe that she is
going to be excellent.

Speaker 1 (05:34):
I do too. But there's going to be seventy three
thousand people there and it's going to be telecast around
the world. If she lives up to what you and
I both believe she can do. She will be the one,
and she will be able to and she will have
so much power going into these future elections.

Speaker 2 (05:54):
I completely agree. And you know, as far as like
it's not even the Republican because I hate to call
it that, it's really this revival inside America, I think
that she understood the importance of the work that Charlie
was doing. You know, it's more than just whipping votes
for Donald Trump in the election. What he was really

(06:15):
doing was going to these college campuses where these kids
felt like there was no hope. They can't buy a home,
they're never going to get ahead, they're going to be
suck in this you know, kind of depressing rat race
for their whole lives. And he told them, no, you've
got hope. Let me show you how to live a life,
a good life, a full life, a committed life, and
you know, go out into the world and feel joy

(06:36):
and happiness and where you are.

Speaker 1 (06:38):
Mary Rook, opinion columnist for The Daily Caller. This has
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