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Speaker 1 (00:00):
This is a podcast from dou Wor Now more of
the Wor Saturday Morning Show and Larry Mante Welcome back.
The US government now calls UFOs UAPs, So why the change?
Well for that we go to futurist reporter Kevin Sirilli.
He's now host of iHeartMedia's new daily podcast, Hello Future
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with Kevin Sirilli. A new podcast is designed to make big,
forward looking topics fast, smart and accessible to mainstream audiences.
You mean, so I'll even understand what you're talking.
Speaker 2 (00:36):
About, you know, Well, thank you, Larry for that. That's
the goal. That's the goal. But it's been so much fun.
We've just done our first week and everyone, thank you
to iHeart and everyone. It's been so much fun working
with iHeart, and you know, we tackle really big issues
like colonizing Mars, going to the mood, but also why
you should care about it. One of my favorite episodes
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this week was with CEO. He's thirty seven years old
of this startup company that creates civilization starter kits, and
what it is is a data center in a box.
And he's explaining to me that and I'm sitting there
like I don't even know how to do this interview.
This is so complicated. He's one of those geniuses. And
he's telling me that he's putting this. They can put
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them on Mars or the Moon and immediately it'll create
electricity and water, and it could it could self replicate
like in transformers, to allow for when the robots come
and then eventually humans. And I'm thinking, Okay, that's really cool,
but why should I care about this on planet Earth?
And he goes, well, don't you think that that could
be useful in rural parts of America where they don't
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have access to basic technology infrastructure. Don't you think that
after a hurricane, when the power grid gets wiped out,
that if we put one of these train sized boxes
in a disaster zone, that that could get communications back
on system. Don't you think that in parts of Africa
and underserved communities around the world that this could be
bring basic not just technology, but also stewage systems and
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economic incentive cities parts of the world. And I'm like, yeah, no,
that's not a bad idea at all. That's that's totally
what we should do.
Speaker 1 (02:15):
Yeah, in third world countries, I can see them going
into Africa or down into South America, and bringing this.
Is this available what he's talking about? Is it available now?
Speaker 2 (02:24):
Yeah, they're already testing it. And that's the whole point
of the show. And then the coolest part of the interview.
I don't know if you've ever seen Larry The Martian
or read the book by Andy wer. Sure, it's so good.
It's not as good as Interstellar, which I know is
a debate in the sci fi community, but I'm an
Interstellar geek. But with Matthew McConaughey. But in The Martian,
Matt Damon essentially poops and grows a plant on Mars
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and I asked him, well, how are you going to
power this? And he goes poop and I go, I'm
sorry what and he's like yeah, He's like, well, we don't.
It's not you can have a battery on Mars or
you know, in other parts of the world. But that's
how they're thinking. It's science fiction come to life, and
it's crazy. It's a crazy world we live in. But hey,
at least they're thinking about that. Probably they could get
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a budget deal in Washington's I'll.
Speaker 1 (03:10):
Tell you what. Poop is an untapped natural resource. As
we found out in The Martian that was a That
was a great story. But man, what a brilliant podcast.
And you're talking to the smartest people in the country
about what's coming next, which explains why you're a futurist reporter.
I kind of get it. Now, let's talk about so
much fun. I can imagine that.
Speaker 2 (03:31):
Good.
Speaker 1 (03:32):
Good for you, and congratulations. I hate that they changed
UFO to UAP. Can you explain to me why they
did that exactly?
Speaker 2 (03:43):
Yeah, So, a UFO is an unidentified flying object obviously,
but a UAP essentially is an unidentified aerial phenomenon. And
the reason is because technology, it also doesn't necessarily have
to be flying. It could be you know, in the
ocean and whatnot. It's just kind of broadens the category,
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so to speak. But there's been a hearing on Capitol Hill.
There's been several and the most recent one was just
a couple of weeks ago. And you know, the big
question that I get about UAPs and UFOs is why
is the government, you know, keeping it a secret from
us and whatnot? And there's many ways to answer this question,
but the first is it's not necessarily the Pentagon and
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CIA and NASA. It's not necessarily them that they're covering
it up. It also could be the private industry or
private companies have access to this technology and they're not
required to share it with anyone necessarily, So the laws
are very outdated and not thinking as big as the
universe is. Secondly, if there is alien technology that is discovered,
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the government wouldn't necessarily want to declassify it if they
don't have their arms around it before a bad actor does,
like trying he founding this party Russia or Iran. And
then lastly, they might not know what it is. And
so I think the biggest question right now is just
we are living through what I believe, Larry is the
start of the next industrial revolution. The Galileo and I
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interview the head of the Galileo project from Harvard, whose
whole mission is to look for extraterrestrial life in the universe.
But the Galileo discoveries of you know, centuries ago, our
telescopes are finding them by the tenfold, and so, you know,
I think that policymakers don't really even know where to
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begin asking questions about any of this, and that's why
I think it's been so stale. Quite frankly, in this debate,
the space industry alone is not just NASA anymore. It's
going to be a one trillion dollar industry, one trillion
dollars by the year twenty thirty two, which is larger
than the entire gaming industry in America.
Speaker 1 (05:58):
Do you believe that there is alien intelligence? And do
you believe that alien intelligence has visited us?
Speaker 2 (06:05):
It's the question isn't is yes? The answer is yes,
But that's the boat questions. Do I believe that they've
visited us? That I don't have enough proof of. But
in terms of but in terms of do I believe
in life elsewhere in the galaxy or in other dimensions? Absolutely?
And I, by the way, it's not just if there's one.
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You know, I interviewed Leonard David, who is He's like
the Walter cronkind of space news. He's awesome, he's been
covering space for fifty years. He goes, the better question, Kevin,
is how many civilizations are there in the universe? How
many are there? Because they could be all at different stages.
You could have cavemen on one planet, and then you
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know civilizations that are, you know, thousands of years ahead
of us. So it's it's a really complicated question. But
the bottom line is they just found proof of potential
IOW signatures of life on Mars. Well, a lot of
people think the Solar System is only nine planets in
a couple of moons. There's more than There's millions of
objects in our Solar system alone. We only have a
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less than a dozen satellites around the Moon. We have
ten thousand around planet Earth, and we only have like
eight or twelve around Mars and like one around Europa.
So there's so much we don't know about our own
place in our Solar system, let alone in the galaxy,
let alone in the universe.
Speaker 1 (07:29):
Well, I can't wait to talk to you next week.
I'm definitely going to listen to your podcast. You sold
it very well just now. Kevin Sirelli is the host
of Iheart's new daily podcast, Hello Future with Kevin Sirelli.
That new podcast is designed to make big, forward looking
topics fast, smart and accessible, like you just heard. Thanks
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a lot, Kevin, talk to you again next week.
Speaker 2 (07:52):
Thank you, Larren, Thank you my friend. Best.
Speaker 1 (07:53):
This has been a podcast from WOI