Joe Neumaier, former film critic and film editor at the New York Daily News, has been a journalist and critic in New York for over 20 years. His writing on movies and Hollywood has appeared in Entertainment Weekly, the New York Times, the New York Post, the London Observer, the Washington Post, USA Today Weekend, Hamptons magazine and the Financial Times.com, among others. He"s appeared on MSNBC, Channel 2"s Sunday Morning, Fox 5"s Good Day New York, WPIX-11, CNN, VH1, CNBC, A&E Biography and Access Hollywood. When on deadline, he watches an average of 6 to 8 movies a week. His list of favorite films include "The Godfather," "The Apartment," "Citizen Kane," "McCabe & Mrs. Miller," "All That Jazz," "On Her Majesty's Secret Service," "Goodfellas," "Toy Story 3," "North by Northwest" and "Duck Soup".
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
This is a podcast from dou Woar.
Speaker 2 (00:02):
Back now to the dou Woar Saturday Morning Show with
Larry MINTI.
Speaker 1 (00:08):
Welcome back. The Oscar nominations are out. They were out
this week, and I'll tell you ahead of the interview.
Film journalist and Movie Minute host Joe Numeyer is not impressed.
Speaker 2 (00:19):
What a great list of movies very few people have seen.
I mean, I gotta be honest, I mean, twenty twenty
four was not a great year. We've talked about this
a few times on the air, and so getting that
out of the way, like a lot of these movies
are movies that either people haven't seen, or they're hard
to see, or if you know, even if they see them,
they're not necessarily you know, you don't walk away saying say,
oh that was that was really great. But there still
(00:41):
were a few surprises. I was surprised that in terms
of Best Picture that a movie like Challengers didn't get in,
which I thought was really a terrific film with Zan Daya.
You have an opportunity to have Zendaya nominated for a
Best day You're trying to get the kids, like we're
talking about I think she has a kid following I
think that the young people like her. That surprised me
that they did go with something like that. It also
(01:02):
surprised me a little bit that actually Dune Part two
got in amongst all these films that like the brutalist
Nora films that people haven't seen, but that Dune got
in there into the Best Picture category, that was surprising.
And then I was also surprised that a couple of snubs.
Denzel Washington not in there for Gladiator two. I thought
he was really terrific in the film. Pamela Anderson was
(01:24):
possibly gonna be nominated. Neither she nor Jamie Lee Curtis
were nominated for the film called The Last show Girl,
and they both got nominations from the Say Awards. I
should also, you know, this is the thing I always
like to say every years, so people know the way
the nominations go. Of course, you know, they're divided up
by categories, so editors vote for editors, directors vote for directors,
actors for actors, that kind of thing, and then when
(01:45):
the final round comes around, then everybody votes for everything,
and they're sort of there's something a weighted voting, so
you have a first choice, a second choice, and a
third choice. So that's how the voting process goes behind
the scenes, and I think towards that end, I think
that all the actors thought that, oh with you know,
Pamela Anderson. Yeah, but I think that everybody else is like,
not Pamela Anderson, I don't think so. So I think
(02:06):
that that shows why there was sort of a split
on things like that. You know.
Speaker 1 (02:10):
I read recently that Timothy shallow may is rising uh
in the Best Actor category that he may actually win
now after he was being put like by gold Derby
and other sites at third or fourth and now they're
saying he may win. What happened.
Speaker 2 (02:27):
I think that The Brutalist, which is the Adrian Brody
film Adrian Brody being nominated for the for The Brutalist
got a little bit of attention because there's some moments
in it when they when the director used AI to
alter some voice over a little. It's a very minor thing,
but because the the Adrian Brody and his and his
co star the Felicity Jones, both of them are nominated
(02:49):
for roscars because some of their dialogue was altered a
little bit, I think maybe that had a little bit
of an effect. The other thing is that The Brutalist
is a I just watched a complete Unknown this weekend.
It is it gets even better on subsequent viewing. So
I was sad that it wasn't nominated for Best Inematography
because of the way the movie puts you into nineteen
sixty four New York is really great. You know, you
(03:09):
really feel like you're there. So Adrian Brody, I think
he's already won previously for The Pianist. I think The
Brutalist is a three and a half hour brutal sit
I'm not a big fan of the movie.
Speaker 1 (03:20):
So let's go through all this. It was like Best Picture,
who do you think is gonna win?
Speaker 2 (03:24):
You know, I still stand by Wicked having a little
bit of an edge, just because it was so huge,
and I think that it was successful in what it did.
But this movie, Amelia Peretz, which is a Spanish language film,
the most nominations ever first mataged for a foreign language film.
It got thirteen. Some of that is because it had
two songs, and it's nominated for Best to Adapted Screenplay
(03:46):
and Makeup and Foreign Language and Best Picture is nominated
for so some of that uped its tally a little bit.
But I think that's a possibility, and I hope it doesn't.
I don't really like the film, but I can I
can understand Hollywood maybe going for that. I think Wicked, though,
still would be the one that you put your money on,
because I think it could be because of that voting,
that weird voting process. I said, where Wicked could be
(04:08):
somebody second enough people second and third choice that it
rises up if it's something like Amelia Perez or The
Brutalist are not enough number one. So I was surprised
though that the substance actually got in ultimately. I mean
it was gaining throughout the year. Have you guys seen
that movie. It's very weird, Cold Be More film. Have
you a chance to see it? Yeah, it's kind of
it's a horror film. It's a horror film. It kind
(04:30):
of feels like a like a film from the eighties
a little bit. It's got a lot of nutsy stuff
in it. For that to be in there is really
sort of surprising to me amongst those ten films, and
has surprised me over the course of the of the
last month or two how it's how it's really raised up. Also,
I'm still here in Nickel Boys or two movies that
I was sort of surprised to be in there. Best
Actor are all the ones we talked about. Sebastian Stan
(04:51):
is a surprise for the Apprentice, but Ray Finds is
one that we were expecting as well. I don't think
it's race here though. I don't think he's gonna win
for Conclave.
Speaker 1 (04:59):
I know it's not rigged. I know it's not fixed.
It's too big to rig. But yeah, they would be
so smart to announce Wicked as the winner of Best Picture.
I think that they are going to have an audience
that's going to love them forever, and they may not
get VI hours this year for it, but they'll get
them next year.
Speaker 2 (05:17):
YEP. I totally agree. And you know what, they're not
even doing any of these any of these Oscar nomine songs.
None of them are really very memorable. But they could
have had a production number from Wicked in there. You know,
the thing's been running on Broadway for over twenty years.
People love it, so it would be really foolish not
but it was also foolish in them. That's so, like
I say, nominate something like Challengers, which I think was
really terrific and one of my favorite films of the year.
Speaker 1 (05:39):
Yeah, I always hate that the Oscar voters and the
Oscars themselves always have to make it known and rub
it in our faces that we know more about movies
than you do.
Speaker 2 (05:49):
Yeah, especially a year like this that was really, like
I said, not very strong. And then there's things like
you know, Monica Barberro getting nominated for a Complete Unknown
for playing Joan Baiaz in there. That was great. I
think that's a really terrific nomination. But a lot of
them are exactly what you're talking about. It's sort of
very niche thing. And if the whole year was going
to be like that, put in some stuff that's really
that would have been, you know, far more accessible to people.
(06:11):
I totally agree, totally agree.
Speaker 1 (06:12):
There's other people are watching just to see what you
talked about, just to see Wicked and just to see
a person. Right. Absolutely, they can get an audience just from.
Speaker 2 (06:20):
That, exactly. And they were both nominated in Eronvo and
Ariana Grande were nominated, so it's you know, they would
be so so smart to do that. But I think
I think it's going to be like the nominations themselves,
it's going to be a year when a lot of
sort of these small films that nobody has seen a
lot of them with you on Netflix, you know when
Meinily President in Netflix. Film it's on Netflix, might be
available for streaming. But I think that there people are
(06:41):
going to be looking at Conan O'Brien's got a tough job, right,
Oh my god. I mean between the having to deal
with the with the fires that have been going on
out there and the political weirdness of like here's your
oscar story about your house? Yea, and in the small films.
I love Conan and I think it's terrific. It'll be
interesting to see what he does because he's got a
he's got a tough I think.
Speaker 1 (07:02):
My brother, my my wife, and I and my brother
and his wife separately make sure we get to see
all the Best movie nominations every year. Yeah, so I
have I have a job to do, and from what
you're saying, I'm gonna I'm gonna suffer through a lot
of these.
Speaker 2 (07:17):
The good thing about The brutaliss is that it has an
intermission and and and this is not a joke, Larry.
The best things I found about The Brutalist and it's
got some notable things in it are its opening and
closing credits are really kind of cool. But I know
that what an insult, right, what's the best thing about
the film? The credit? The beginning and then the credit.
Speaker 1 (07:34):
Great, it's over, that's the thing. The closing credits is
finally over. That's actually that's a great review. W o
R Movie Minute host Joe Neumaier. This has been a
podcast from w o R
This is a podcast from dou Woar.
Speaker 2 (00:02):
Back now to the dou Woar Saturday Morning Show with
Larry MINTI.
Speaker 1 (00:08):
Welcome back. The Oscar nominations are out. They were out
this week, and I'll tell you ahead of the interview.
Film journalist and Movie Minute host Joe Numeyer is not impressed.
Speaker 2 (00:19):
What a great list of movies very few people have seen.
I mean, I gotta be honest, I mean, twenty twenty
four was not a great year. We've talked about this
a few times on the air, and so getting that
out of the way, like a lot of these movies
are movies that either people haven't seen, or they're hard
to see, or if you know, even if they see them,
they're not necessarily you know, you don't walk away saying say,
oh that was that was really great. But there still
(00:41):
were a few surprises. I was surprised that in terms
of Best Picture that a movie like Challengers didn't get in,
which I thought was really a terrific film with Zan Daya.
You have an opportunity to have Zendaya nominated for a
Best day You're trying to get the kids, like we're
talking about I think she has a kid following I
think that the young people like her. That surprised me
that they did go with something like that. It also
(01:02):
surprised me a little bit that actually Dune Part two
got in amongst all these films that like the brutalist
Nora films that people haven't seen, but that Dune got
in there into the Best Picture category, that was surprising.
And then I was also surprised that a couple of snubs.
Denzel Washington not in there for Gladiator two. I thought
he was really terrific in the film. Pamela Anderson was
(01:24):
possibly gonna be nominated. Neither she nor Jamie Lee Curtis
were nominated for the film called The Last show Girl,
and they both got nominations from the Say Awards. I
should also, you know, this is the thing I always
like to say every years, so people know the way
the nominations go. Of course, you know, they're divided up
by categories, so editors vote for editors, directors vote for directors,
actors for actors, that kind of thing, and then when
(01:45):
the final round comes around, then everybody votes for everything,
and they're sort of there's something a weighted voting, so
you have a first choice, a second choice, and a
third choice. So that's how the voting process goes behind
the scenes, and I think towards that end, I think
that all the actors thought that, oh with you know,
Pamela Anderson. Yeah, but I think that everybody else is like,
not Pamela Anderson, I don't think so. So I think
(02:06):
that that shows why there was sort of a split
on things like that. You know.
Speaker 1 (02:10):
I read recently that Timothy shallow may is rising uh
in the Best Actor category that he may actually win
now after he was being put like by gold Derby
and other sites at third or fourth and now they're
saying he may win. What happened.
Speaker 2 (02:27):
I think that The Brutalist, which is the Adrian Brody
film Adrian Brody being nominated for the for The Brutalist
got a little bit of attention because there's some moments
in it when they when the director used AI to
alter some voice over a little. It's a very minor thing,
but because the the Adrian Brody and his and his
co star the Felicity Jones, both of them are nominated
(02:49):
for roscars because some of their dialogue was altered a
little bit, I think maybe that had a little bit
of an effect. The other thing is that The Brutalist
is a I just watched a complete Unknown this weekend.
It is it gets even better on subsequent viewing. So
I was sad that it wasn't nominated for Best Inematography
because of the way the movie puts you into nineteen
sixty four New York is really great. You know, you
(03:09):
really feel like you're there. So Adrian Brody, I think
he's already won previously for The Pianist. I think The
Brutalist is a three and a half hour brutal sit
I'm not a big fan of the movie.
Speaker 1 (03:20):
So let's go through all this. It was like Best Picture,
who do you think is gonna win?
Speaker 2 (03:24):
You know, I still stand by Wicked having a little
bit of an edge, just because it was so huge,
and I think that it was successful in what it did.
But this movie, Amelia Peretz, which is a Spanish language film,
the most nominations ever first mataged for a foreign language film.
It got thirteen. Some of that is because it had
two songs, and it's nominated for Best to Adapted Screenplay
(03:46):
and Makeup and Foreign Language and Best Picture is nominated
for so some of that uped its tally a little bit.
But I think that's a possibility, and I hope it doesn't.
I don't really like the film, but I can I
can understand Hollywood maybe going for that. I think Wicked, though,
still would be the one that you put your money on,
because I think it could be because of that voting,
that weird voting process. I said, where Wicked could be
(04:08):
somebody second enough people second and third choice that it
rises up if it's something like Amelia Perez or The
Brutalist are not enough number one. So I was surprised
though that the substance actually got in ultimately. I mean
it was gaining throughout the year. Have you guys seen
that movie. It's very weird, Cold Be More film. Have
you a chance to see it? Yeah, it's kind of
it's a horror film. It's a horror film. It kind
(04:30):
of feels like a like a film from the eighties
a little bit. It's got a lot of nutsy stuff
in it. For that to be in there is really
sort of surprising to me amongst those ten films, and
has surprised me over the course of the of the
last month or two how it's how it's really raised up. Also,
I'm still here in Nickel Boys or two movies that
I was sort of surprised to be in there. Best
Actor are all the ones we talked about. Sebastian Stan
(04:51):
is a surprise for the Apprentice, but Ray Finds is
one that we were expecting as well. I don't think
it's race here though. I don't think he's gonna win
for Conclave.
Speaker 1 (04:59):
I know it's not rigged. I know it's not fixed.
It's too big to rig. But yeah, they would be
so smart to announce Wicked as the winner of Best Picture.
I think that they are going to have an audience
that's going to love them forever, and they may not
get VI hours this year for it, but they'll get
them next year.
Speaker 2 (05:17):
YEP. I totally agree. And you know what, they're not
even doing any of these any of these Oscar nomine songs.
None of them are really very memorable. But they could
have had a production number from Wicked in there. You know,
the thing's been running on Broadway for over twenty years.
People love it, so it would be really foolish not
but it was also foolish in them. That's so, like
I say, nominate something like Challengers, which I think was
really terrific and one of my favorite films of the year.
Speaker 1 (05:39):
Yeah, I always hate that the Oscar voters and the
Oscars themselves always have to make it known and rub
it in our faces that we know more about movies
than you do.
Speaker 2 (05:49):
Yeah, especially a year like this that was really, like
I said, not very strong. And then there's things like
you know, Monica Barberro getting nominated for a Complete Unknown
for playing Joan Baiaz in there. That was great. I
think that's a really terrific nomination. But a lot of
them are exactly what you're talking about. It's sort of
very niche thing. And if the whole year was going
to be like that, put in some stuff that's really
that would have been, you know, far more accessible to people.
(06:11):
I totally agree, totally agree.
Speaker 1 (06:12):
There's other people are watching just to see what you
talked about, just to see Wicked and just to see
a person. Right. Absolutely, they can get an audience just from.
Speaker 2 (06:20):
That, exactly. And they were both nominated in Eronvo and
Ariana Grande were nominated, so it's you know, they would
be so so smart to do that. But I think
I think it's going to be like the nominations themselves,
it's going to be a year when a lot of
sort of these small films that nobody has seen a
lot of them with you on Netflix, you know when
Meinily President in Netflix. Film it's on Netflix, might be
available for streaming. But I think that there people are
(06:41):
going to be looking at Conan O'Brien's got a tough job, right,
Oh my god. I mean between the having to deal
with the with the fires that have been going on
out there and the political weirdness of like here's your
oscar story about your house? Yea, and in the small films.
I love Conan and I think it's terrific. It'll be
interesting to see what he does because he's got a
he's got a tough I think.
Speaker 1 (07:02):
My brother, my my wife, and I and my brother
and his wife separately make sure we get to see
all the Best movie nominations every year. Yeah, so I
have I have a job to do, and from what
you're saying, I'm gonna I'm gonna suffer through a lot
of these.
Speaker 2 (07:17):
The good thing about The brutaliss is that it has an
intermission and and and this is not a joke, Larry.
The best things I found about The Brutalist and it's
got some notable things in it are its opening and
closing credits are really kind of cool. But I know
that what an insult, right, what's the best thing about
the film? The credit? The beginning and then the credit.
Speaker 1 (07:34):
Great, it's over, that's the thing. The closing credits is
finally over. That's actually that's a great review. W o
R Movie Minute host Joe Neumaier. This has been a
podcast from w o R
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