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Speaker 1 (00:00):
This is a podcast from wor Now the wr Saturday
Morning Show. Here's Larry Minty.
Speaker 2 (00:08):
Good morning, and welcome to Saturday Morning. On this week's show,
New Jersey Congressman Josh Gottdheimer is one happy man. He
has been fighting against congestion pricing and now for all
intents and purposes, it is dead. Governor Hokel decides not
to remove Mayor Adams from office, but she is keeping
him on a short leash. We'll talk with New York
(00:30):
City Councilman Robert Holden about that. John feel from the
Feel Good Foundation has been fighting for nine to eleven
first responders for a decade and he once again is
going to Washington to make certain the first responder's fund
isn't cut. And finally, former Trump Press Secretary Sean Spicer
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is a little jealous at the treatment Caroline Levitt is getting.
We'll talk with Seawn coming up, but let's start with
the great news about congestion pricing and the fight still
ahead with New Jersey Congressman and Democratic gub natorial candidate
Josh Gotdheimer. Welcome to the show. Congressman Gotdheimer, thank you
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so much for having us. Yeah, absolutely so how are
you feeling today.
Speaker 3 (01:14):
Day man, great day, little extra bouncing the step today.
Speaker 2 (01:18):
Yeah, and did you see this coming?
Speaker 3 (01:21):
I did see, Conda. Listen, it was announced that the
administration was going to do this. We've been fighting this
thing forever and the arguments we've had against the congestion
tax have held true the whole time. And now finally,
you know, instead of rubber stamping an idea that wasn't
ready for prime time, you know, now there's recognition that
this not only is this the congestion tacks whacking hard
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working families, you know, nine dollars a day at a
time where we've got to do everything we can to
get prices down to help people. It's you know, especially
hard working folks are just trying to make ends meet.
But the other piece we've always been talking about is
this was nothing but a cash grab for New York
that was going to do nothing to help the environment.
In fact, that northern New Jersey, given the change in
traffic patterns of all these people avoiding the congestion tax,
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you'd get more pollution, which is exactly what we've been
seeing since they started this, Right, more trucks have been
going to the GW Bridge backing up more pollution for
New Jersey, hurting our kids and our families. And this
is exactly what we said. What happened. It happened, and
the administration stood up yesterday and said, yeah, we agree
with you.
Speaker 2 (02:23):
Yeah, and New York is going to fight this. Kathy
Hochel announced that yesterday that they're going to file suit
and look for an injunction. What do you see happening?
Speaker 3 (02:32):
So I get they want to fight this. They lost
for a reason. Not only can you not when you
have a problem with your MTA and your transit system
and you will trying to blame somebody else, and you know,
pick someone else's pockets to fix your problems, you know,
like which obviously I've got very strong feelings that that
is not what you should do to Jersey families or
or those in the out of Burroughs. But on top
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of that, I get she's frustrated. She tried to jam
this thing through, knowing that it would lead to more
traffic and Jersey and more pollute in New Jersey. Decided
she thought she could just pull a fast one and
every one and she's pissed because they caught her. And
what I thought was amazing yesterday. I don't know if
you heard her press conference, but she had the audacity
to say that Jersey families, you know, you're not forced
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to come to New York City. Is if she doesn't
want us to come in?
Speaker 2 (03:17):
Oh congressman, let me play that. Let me play that,
and you can react afterwards.
Speaker 4 (03:22):
New Jersey residents come, You're welcome, but you're not forced
to come here. This is the flaw in their argument.
They have choices, keep coming. We love you, that's great.
But the people who live here, who are real New Yorkers,
they're the ones who I have to listen to and
I will always fight for.
Speaker 5 (03:40):
No.
Speaker 2 (03:41):
Go ahead, Sorry I did interrupt you.
Speaker 3 (03:42):
No, I mean, could you imagine that you got this
small business? Not only are small businesses struggling in New
York and they're trying to get people to come back
to the city post pandemic, right, and not only you're
basically saying to your own small business owners, you know,
we don't want people to come in and support New York.
But on top of that, do you know how many
people from Jersey go into New York every day? Cops, firefighters, nurses,
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right who, electricians and others? Who help New York's economy,
who give money yours economy, who work in New York,
all these hard working people and you just basically slap
them in the face. I think that was an unbelievable statement,
and I'm hoping she backs off that today. Put aside
all the people who are patients in the hospitals and
who support you know, go to the restaurants, but to
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say no thanks to New Jersey. Listen, I want everyone
to stay in Jersey and support New Jersey businesses. But
you got people who go to work to make a
living and to try to make ends meet, and you're
telling them, no thanks, we don't want you. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (04:37):
No, it was absolutely ignorant, because there are people that
get off of work that work at restaurants or bars
and get off at two in the morning and there's
no trains to take back to New Jersey or where
they want to go, and they have to drive in
and they're hit the hardest, or construction workers that have
to come in in the middle of the night, or
people that work in hospitals. It was an insult to
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all of them. Yeah. No, absolutely, But how do you
think people feel also that are in the outer Burroughs
or on Long Island.
Speaker 3 (05:07):
In New York or Westchester exactly. Oh, I mean, you
have no idea how many people when I go out
I talked to come up to me and talk to
who are not from Jersey, from the Burrows, or from Westchester,
Long Island, who are like, we got to stop this thing.
It's gonna it's they're getting whacked too, just like we are.
And and you know you're talking about twenty three hundred
dollars a year. This is not like pocket change, right,
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this is real money, and on top of what people
already pay for bridges and tunnels to get into New York.
So listen, this is a great win to just cut
taxes for people, stop and cut costs for people, and
and stop this congestion tax. And I also think you
know they want to go ahead and try to fight
this right right, which is what she said yesterday, And
the NTA said they're going to go ahead and keep
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charging people. I don't know if you saw that, but
the idea they refusing to shut these things off. And
you know which, listen, they'll go to a judge, and
a judge is going to work this out, and I
believe we'll rule in fai of Jersey on this. But
what I think has to happen is that we keep
track of every nickel people are paying starting today on
these congestion taxes, and they should get reimbursed when this
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when they when New York ultimately loses in the courts,
which is what's going to happen, everyone who's had to
pay should get reimbursed.
Speaker 2 (06:17):
Great idea and wonderful point. And at the same time
that this is all happening, you're a lawsuit. The New
Jersey lawsuit is going to continue.
Speaker 3 (06:26):
Correct, We've got the New Jersey lawsuit will continue as refiled.
As a backup plan, We've got bipartisan legislation I've been
than I've got in Congress that as a backup plan.
You know, we'll keep fighting. I mean, listen, it's Jersey, right,
we keep fighting. Just grew with us. You find out
what happens, but we'll just keep going. And uh and
you know this is at the end of the day,
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this is about making sure we help save money for
for Jersey families and make their lives easier. And that's
that's what this is about.
Speaker 2 (06:53):
I'll tell you what, I don't care how it dies.
Just so it dies. And so whether it's yeah, either
it's your lawsuit or it's go it's president.
Speaker 3 (07:03):
Stop the attack and save people money. I don't care who,
I don't care how it gets.
Speaker 2 (07:07):
Done, because it's good for New Jersey. Good luck with
the goovenatorial election. Thank you so much, Josh gottheimer. I'll
talk to you again soon, Ok, you soon.
Speaker 3 (07:16):
Take care.
Speaker 2 (07:17):
Coming up. John Feel is a national hero and he
once again is going to Washington, d C. To make
certain his nine to eleven first Responders fund isn't cut
by Doge. John is next.
Speaker 1 (07:32):
Now more of the w R Saturday Morning Show and
Larry Mante Welcome back.
Speaker 2 (07:38):
First responder. John Feel has traveled to Washington many times
to fight for health benefits and compensation for the men
and women who risk their lives and health after the
attacks of nine to eleven. Now he's going back once
again to make certain those benefits don't get cut by
Elon Musk and Doge. Here is John Feel, founder of
(08:01):
the Feel Good Foundation. John. I want to apologize to
you on behalf of everyone that you have to keep
going to Washington, d C. And fighting for the funds
that you and the others that went on nine to
eleven deserve. I think it's an embarrassment to the country
that you have to keep going down there. You think
you have it resolved, and you have to go back again,
(08:23):
So please tell us what's happening now.
Speaker 6 (08:26):
Well, old friend Larry, I think you're you with me
to know that you were instrumental in helping us over
a decade ago.
Speaker 2 (08:34):
So I did very little, did very little, but I
appreciate that.
Speaker 5 (08:39):
I'll always remember that. So thank you for having me. Yeah, yeah, look,
you know it's redundant.
Speaker 6 (08:44):
You know, the last twenty four years, going back and
forth to DC, always an obstacle, always a hurdle. We
now have two battles on our hands. One to twenty
percent cut to the CDC, which directly affects the world
trades in the health program, which is a lifelong into
the nine to eleven community, one hundred and thirty.
Speaker 5 (09:02):
Seven thousand people will be affected.
Speaker 6 (09:04):
Those who are trying to get them rolled into the program,
which is a backlog that will take longer. Those who
are trying to get their illnesses like cancer and COPD
and other respiratory illnesses and post traumatic trying to get
those illnesses certified that's gonna take longer, more and more
people are going to suffer and people will die.
Speaker 5 (09:25):
And that's not being a drama queen, that's just fact.
Speaker 6 (09:28):
This was a staff cut that needed more staff and
they took a sledge hammittatus when they should have took
the surgical night and instead of cutting in twenty percent,
they should have sewer that this program has no waste,
no abuse, suspending, nothing, no no, no shenanigans in that program, whatsoever.
Speaker 5 (09:49):
You know.
Speaker 6 (09:49):
Listen, when we got to build PASS the first time
in twenty ten, it was a litmus test to prove
that there'd be no fraud, no waste, no will be suspended,
and we came out with flying colors, hence while we
got to extended until twenty ninety.
Speaker 5 (10:01):
So shame on them.
Speaker 6 (10:03):
It's reckless, it's callous, it's mean, it's cruel, it's in humane,
it lacks humanity.
Speaker 5 (10:09):
And we're hoping, we're.
Speaker 6 (10:11):
Praying that it gets reversed, and we're going to continue
to keep the pressure on them. But we're going to
DC next week to introduce legislation to get three billion
dollars for the World Trace and the health program we
were supposed to be part of a budget deal at
the end of the year in December, and we got
cut out. We have to reintroduce it and hopefully get
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attached to the next budget deal on March twelve.
Speaker 2 (10:35):
So when you go down there, who are you meeting with.
Speaker 6 (10:40):
Higher up, higher rank and Republicans, you know, trying to
get a meeting with Secretary Kennedy. You know, Secretary Kennedy's
slogan was make America healthy again. They kind of contradicted
themselves if they cut this program.
Speaker 5 (10:56):
How are you going to make these men and.
Speaker 6 (10:58):
Women, firefighters, cops, corrections offices. How are you going to
make them healthy again? If you don't allow them the
ability to get into a program that will save their lives.
Speaker 5 (11:08):
It makes no sense.
Speaker 6 (11:11):
But you know, Senator jilibrand Congressman Garabino, I believe Senator McCormick.
We're going to introduce legislation on Wednesday, and whoever we'll have.
Speaker 5 (11:21):
A meeting in with us. We will gladly sit down.
Speaker 6 (11:24):
We come in peace, but we're ready for a street fight,
because that's the importance in this. This isn't Republican, this
isn't democrat This is about humanity. This is about never
forgetting the most horrific day in the history of this nation,
that innocent people and heroes were sickened because of a
lie on September sixteenth, when they said.
Speaker 5 (11:44):
The air was safe to breathe and the water was
safe to drink.
Speaker 6 (11:47):
So attacking this program and the way they're doing it
with an evilness about it, it just doesn't suit well
with me. And you know, I'm a commonsense thinking guy.
Speaker 5 (11:58):
I can't.
Speaker 6 (11:59):
I can't understan then why they would do this, And
nobody can.
Speaker 5 (12:04):
Explain this why.
Speaker 6 (12:05):
I want to know why, because there's no need to
cut this program if they just looked at it.
Speaker 5 (12:11):
You can't just go to every program say I'm gonna
cut it this much.
Speaker 6 (12:14):
Look how many programs they cut that they're trying to
scramble to get people to come back. These are unqualified
people who don't know the nuances of the federal government.
They don't know how to government, They don't know how
to legislate. They know how to sign executive orders, but
that's not governing.
Speaker 5 (12:29):
And we need people capable.
Speaker 6 (12:32):
Of leading this country and making sure that the American
people are taking care of America first, right, That's what
the slogan is America first.
Speaker 5 (12:40):
This is not America first.
Speaker 2 (12:42):
Yeah, John, I agree with you. Good luck. Can we
talk to you again on Tuesday or the day after, absolutely,
Sir John Field, founder of the Feel Good Foundation. Still
to come, we ask former Trump Press Secretary Sean Spicer
what he thinks of the job Caroline Levitt is doing.
That's come. New York City Councilman Robert Holden is here
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to talk about Mayor Adams keeping his job and working
under the thumb of Governor Kathy Hokeel.
Speaker 1 (13:09):
Back now to the w R Saturday Morning Show with
Larry Minty.
Speaker 2 (13:14):
Welcome back. Governor Hokeel will not remove Mayor Adams from
his job, but she is keeping him on a very
short leash to make certain he doesn't get too close
to President Trump. And New York City Councilman Robert Holden
is concerned with that arrangement. And Robert, I'll just ask you,
(13:34):
just give me an overview. What did you think of
Kathy Hockel's announcement.
Speaker 7 (13:38):
Well, it's the continuation of the New York City soap opera,
and you know, and it's orchestrated by Governor Hulkel. Obviously,
she's very political and all of this is because that
you know, God forbid that the mayor, Mayor Adams, wants
to work with the with the federal government, the Trump
administration on making our street safer. So this is what
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the governor did. You know, she set up these guidelines,
you know, guardrail she called them, kind of and it's
a whole bunch of things that you know, it gives
her options and you know, almost like setting up puppet
strings for the mayor. So if they don't like what
he's doing, if they don't like that he's working with
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ICE at Rikers Island to take criminals off the streets,
which he does on and that's what really started this.
She's going to give complete control to sue the feds
to Bradlander, likes, the Bradlander Controller of the City of
New York, the public Advocate Johnnie Williams, and the City
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council speaker the authority to sue the federal government on
any issues that they don't like, for instance, opening an
ICE office possibly at Rikers, or taking criminals off the streets.
Now does anybody like that? Does anybody any New Yorker
really feel that's a that's a good way to go.
Uh So, it's a power grab really, but this the
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big thing here is she's also setting up she's appointing
an inspector general to oversee the mayor's action, which is
kind of disgusting if you look at it. It's just, uh,
you know, she wants to have control and it might
be aimed also at let's say Andrew Cuomo steps into
the race and he becomes mayor. She's she's giving the options.
She says, this is gonna this is going to continue
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until the end of the year. Uh, and then maybe beyond.
And that's the Andrew Cuomo clause in this.
Speaker 2 (15:35):
What a great storyline that will be if the former
governor and her boss becomes mayor and she has oversight
over Andrew Cuomo. That's going to cause some fights that
you can sit back and just eat popcorn as you watch.
Speaker 7 (15:51):
Yeah, we we can sit back and relax and look
at that, but just shake our heads because all of this.
You know, the new the rank and file person or
the citizen of New York. New York City really wants
safer streets. And this all started. I mean, she didn't
really pull this in September when the mayor was indicted.
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So what change was Remember, like I said before, Tom
Holman appeared with Eric Adams on Fox about cooperation. So
I mean, we should want cooperation, especially to get criminal
aliens off our streets. So we have to remember this
when Kathy Hochel comes up for a re election, we
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have to remember what she's done. How she paused congestion
pricing right before the elections. She didn't want to hurt
Democrats in the elections, and then when the elections were over,
she started it up again, and.
Speaker 2 (16:46):
Since she was saving us money, That's what I've that
was the most ridiculous speech I have ever seen. And
then she takes a picture on the subway saying how
safe it was. Hours before on the subway a woman
was burnt to death.
Speaker 7 (17:04):
She I mean that again, she didn't even understand the optics.
She doesn't. That's what she doesn't get. And again she
should actually stay away from New York City politics and
let's start making our streets safer. But she's not about that,
because if she if she was about safety, she would
remove Da Bragg from as Manhattan DA. She would have
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done that to make us safer.
Speaker 2 (17:28):
But what she sees here, Counselman is a political opportunity.
That's why she's.
Speaker 7 (17:34):
Doing and that's what she's about. And she's demonstrated that
and she even tells us that. So if anybody doubts,
you know, her intentions, it's all political, all political, and
that's what is disgrateful, disgraceful. She doesn't care about us.
She shouldn't care about New Yorkers. And you know, so
if you disagree with her, especially, I mean, don't you
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want us to work with the Fed? So, like, you know,
the mayor should work with the federal government, especially coming
out of the migrant crisis. She didn't help at all,
by the way, in that regard. She offered some money,
but never really help in settling these migrants. So she
just like and the mayor was stuck between her rock
and a hard play. So listen, the mayor had his problems.
(18:18):
So you know, the indictments looks it looks like the
indictments will will be lifted, the federal indictments. So why
is she doing this? Everybody has to ask themselves why
is she doing this?
Speaker 2 (18:28):
Take on Donald Trump to be able to say I'm
standing up to Donald Trump. That's all this is about.
This is about her running for reelection. It's not about
Mayor Adams, it's not about keeping the streets safe. It
is about her campaign for re election.
Speaker 7 (18:43):
And you know, again I want to I'll say this
as a Democrat. We have our country back with the
election of Donald Trump. Because we didn't have we had
an open border. We had we were in peril because
we didn't know who was coming over our border. And
now we that appears to have stopped, or at least
slowed down tremendously, and we're cooperating with Ice hopefully. But again,
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this is totally Governor Hokel just trying to get control
and trying to stop that from stop the mayor from
making our streets safer. That's disgusting.
Speaker 2 (19:19):
I know, it's ridiculous. It is disgusting, and it's all
about politics. Robert Holton, new York City Council member, also
the co chair of the New York City Council Common
Sense Caucus, and you spewed a lot of common sense today.
Thank you so much, Robert. I appreciate talking to you,
look forward to talking to you again.
Speaker 7 (19:37):
Thank you still to come.
Speaker 2 (19:39):
Former Trump Press Secretary Sean Spicer is feeling a little
jealous about the treatment current press Secretary Caroline Levitt is
getting Shawn is next.
Speaker 1 (19:51):
Here again is Larry Minty with the wr Saturday Morning Show.
Speaker 2 (19:57):
Well, Sean Spicer was Donald Trump's first press secretary and
was attacked mercilessly by the media. Makes you wonder how
he feels about the way the media is being much
nicer the current press secretary, Caroline Levitt. Well wonder no longer.
Here's Sean Spicer. Sean, thanks so much for being on
the show again. Before we get to your opinion piece
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about immigration, I've been thinking about you every time I
see Caroline Levitt press conference, and she has it easy
compared to what you went through. And as a matter
of fact, all of the first term press secretaries that
followed you, the media was vicious, both in the briefing
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room and on television, as vicious as the Democrats were
who they were representing. When you watch Caroline Levitt and
how they have learned so much about how to handle
the press and a press room, what are your thoughts?
Speaker 3 (21:00):
Well, good morning, Larry.
Speaker 8 (21:01):
It's great to be with you again more and I
got to be honest with you, I do get a
bit jealous of but but look, I will just start
with this. She is unbelievably talented and you can't take
that away. You can't fake it. And like any good player,
I make too many sports analogies despite not playing really
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well at any sports. But you know, if you think
about it, Tom Brady is a talented person, no matter
what Bill Belichick as a coach might have made him better.
Speaker 5 (21:34):
And I think he gives credit to him.
Speaker 8 (21:35):
But at the end of the day, Caroline's a very
intelligent and talented individual and that comes through in the
briefing room. That being said, it's a multi faceinted equation, right,
So you have her at the podium, very talented, very smart.
Then you've got President Trump, and I think his expectations.
You know, I go back to when we were in
the transition. President Trump said to me, Sean, I'm going
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to be the most traditional president ever. And I thought, oh, well,
I know tradition, like I was in the Bush White House,
like I know how to I know that. So this
is gonna be great because I know I know him
and I know tradition, and so I'll kind of learn
how the price works and then we'll all get along.
And and he was still getting to know the office
and and understand the processes and and anyway, so that
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that piece of it is crucial. She has a really
good relationship with Donald Trump.
Speaker 3 (22:28):
She understands him.
Speaker 8 (22:29):
And then to your point, Larry, the press had a
ball like you know, if you recall, it was like
Jim Acosta, the you know, jumping up and down, making
a clown of himself. And then and this is an
honest truth when I tell people, like what it was
like in those days, This is like, there was a
correspondent for Playboy magazine, which is again proof that there
are articles in there. And and his name was Brian Carum.
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And after I had left, Sarah Sanders was was my replacement,
and he kind of got into it with her, and
as a result of that viral moment, CNN offered him
a contract. Right, they offered April Ryan a contract because
she got into it with me. They weren't getting They
weren't hiring people because they were talented journalists or they
had great sources, or they broke stories. They they hired
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them because they made a spectacle of themselves in the
briefing room and it created a show. And I think
Caroline has tamed the beast because one the reporters learned.
Speaker 2 (23:25):
That it didn't go well for a lot of them.
Speaker 5 (23:28):
I mean, you look at Jim Acosta.
Speaker 8 (23:29):
He's out and it might have given him a sugar
bullet burst in terms of but the resistance of the
media writ large is not the same as it was.
And I don't think that they're getting the same applause
lines that they got even from their own networks, that
they might have eight years ago. So the dynamic has
shifted entirely. And so you know, Caroline, the other thing is,
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remember she worked in the Donald Trump first term press
office under Kaylee Mcananey. So going back to my sports analogy, right,
she had taken some that baths, she had seen the
process work, she knew how so when she walked in
day one, she was familiar with the how the office worked,
the process, the responsibilities, all that kind of stuff. And
that's a very important thing to do because it's not
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like you walk in and you just go I mean,
even in you know your job, you go into a
new station, you learn the personnel, you learn how, the
cadence of you know how how every every business, every
job has a has a has a newness to it.
And she was able to walk in, I think, really
understanding the job in a different way.
Speaker 2 (24:33):
Yeah, she's done a phenomenal job. I want to spend
the rest of the time talking about your opinion piece
in Newsweek. Again, we're talking to Sean Spicer and you
can read his opinion piece at newsweek dot com. The
title of it kind of sets it up perfectly. Executive
orders are a good start, but we need lasting immigration
reform that sometimes is easier said than done. What are
(24:57):
your suggestions?
Speaker 8 (24:58):
So here's the overall point is President Trump, I think
has done a phenomenal job addressing the border. And we
were gasolate for four years telling us that there wasn't
a problem, they weren't criminals, the borders were closed. We
obviously see that that wasn't true. But what can be
done by executive order can be undone by executive order.
Speaker 3 (25:15):
So we saw President.
Speaker 8 (25:16):
Biden come into office undo a lot of what President
Trump had done by executive order.
Speaker 3 (25:20):
President Trump then undoes what Biden does.
Speaker 8 (25:23):
And my point is, while we have a Republican Congress
in both the House and the Senate, get the fundamentals,
talk about hiring more the budget for the CVP and
ICE agents, Customs and Border patrol and Immigration Customs Enforcement USS.
You get all of this stuff locked in in law
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so that the next president can't undo it. And that's
the thing. We know we have a broken immigration system.
We know that there's a big debate over you know,
different visas. We need to basically say, guys, let's you know,
there's a game. What was one of those reality TV
games where they know the money goes up and then
you bank it, And I'm like, guys.
Speaker 3 (26:03):
We need to bank it.
Speaker 8 (26:04):
We need while we have a Republican Congress, get the
part of immigration reform that we agree on. Because if
Democrats take back the House and it's a pretty you know,
I think Republicans have a really good shot of retaining
the House, but it's a slim majority in histories against us,
and once that happens, you change the dynamic and Democrats
are going to say, Okay, here's what we want. Maybe
it's just a bunch of people on the path of
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citizenship or something. So while Republicans control everything, don't miss
this opportunity to lock it in legislatively.
Speaker 2 (26:33):
Yeah, I agree with you one thousand percent, and you
can read more about that. Executive orders are a good start,
but we need lasting immigration reform by Sean Spicer, Trump's
first Press secretary, host of Sewn Spicer Show. Find them
on the iHeartRadio app and also on YouTube, and you
(26:54):
can read this opinion piece at newsweek dot com. Sewan
has always helpe you come back.
Speaker 5 (26:59):
Anytime you want, Larry, thanks for having me.
Speaker 2 (27:01):
Former Trump Press Secretary Sewn Spicer, thanks for listening to
Saturday Morning, and thanks as always to producer Peter Iolano
for putting this show together. I'll be back to host
Minty in the Morning from six to ten on Monday.
Hope you have a great rest of the day and
a wonderful weekend.
Speaker 1 (27:20):
This has been a podcast from WR
This is a podcast from wor Now the wr Saturday
Morning Show. Here's Larry Minty.
Speaker 2 (00:08):
Good morning, and welcome to Saturday Morning. On this week's show,
New Jersey Congressman Josh Gottdheimer is one happy man. He
has been fighting against congestion pricing and now for all
intents and purposes, it is dead. Governor Hokel decides not
to remove Mayor Adams from office, but she is keeping
him on a short leash. We'll talk with New York
(00:30):
City Councilman Robert Holden about that. John feel from the
Feel Good Foundation has been fighting for nine to eleven
first responders for a decade and he once again is
going to Washington to make certain the first responder's fund
isn't cut. And finally, former Trump Press Secretary Sean Spicer
(00:50):
is a little jealous at the treatment Caroline Levitt is getting.
We'll talk with Seawn coming up, but let's start with
the great news about congestion pricing and the fight still
ahead with New Jersey Congressman and Democratic gub natorial candidate
Josh Gotdheimer. Welcome to the show. Congressman Gotdheimer, thank you
(01:10):
so much for having us. Yeah, absolutely so how are
you feeling today.
Speaker 3 (01:14):
Day man, great day, little extra bouncing the step today.
Speaker 2 (01:18):
Yeah, and did you see this coming?
Speaker 3 (01:21):
I did see, Conda. Listen, it was announced that the
administration was going to do this. We've been fighting this
thing forever and the arguments we've had against the congestion
tax have held true the whole time. And now finally,
you know, instead of rubber stamping an idea that wasn't
ready for prime time, you know, now there's recognition that
this not only is this the congestion tacks whacking hard
(01:43):
working families, you know, nine dollars a day at a
time where we've got to do everything we can to
get prices down to help people. It's you know, especially
hard working folks are just trying to make ends meet.
But the other piece we've always been talking about is
this was nothing but a cash grab for New York
that was going to do nothing to help the environment.
In fact, that northern New Jersey, given the change in
traffic patterns of all these people avoiding the congestion tax,
(02:04):
you'd get more pollution, which is exactly what we've been
seeing since they started this, Right, more trucks have been
going to the GW Bridge backing up more pollution for
New Jersey, hurting our kids and our families. And this
is exactly what we said. What happened. It happened, and
the administration stood up yesterday and said, yeah, we agree
with you.
Speaker 2 (02:23):
Yeah, and New York is going to fight this. Kathy
Hochel announced that yesterday that they're going to file suit
and look for an injunction. What do you see happening?
Speaker 3 (02:32):
So I get they want to fight this. They lost
for a reason. Not only can you not when you
have a problem with your MTA and your transit system
and you will trying to blame somebody else, and you know,
pick someone else's pockets to fix your problems, you know,
like which obviously I've got very strong feelings that that
is not what you should do to Jersey families or
or those in the out of Burroughs. But on top
(02:52):
of that, I get she's frustrated. She tried to jam
this thing through, knowing that it would lead to more
traffic and Jersey and more pollute in New Jersey. Decided
she thought she could just pull a fast one and
every one and she's pissed because they caught her. And
what I thought was amazing yesterday. I don't know if
you heard her press conference, but she had the audacity
to say that Jersey families, you know, you're not forced
(03:14):
to come to New York City. Is if she doesn't
want us to come in?
Speaker 2 (03:17):
Oh congressman, let me play that. Let me play that,
and you can react afterwards.
Speaker 4 (03:22):
New Jersey residents come, You're welcome, but you're not forced
to come here. This is the flaw in their argument.
They have choices, keep coming. We love you, that's great.
But the people who live here, who are real New Yorkers,
they're the ones who I have to listen to and
I will always fight for.
Speaker 5 (03:40):
No.
Speaker 2 (03:41):
Go ahead, Sorry I did interrupt you.
Speaker 3 (03:42):
No, I mean, could you imagine that you got this
small business? Not only are small businesses struggling in New
York and they're trying to get people to come back
to the city post pandemic, right, and not only you're
basically saying to your own small business owners, you know,
we don't want people to come in and support New York.
But on top of that, do you know how many
people from Jersey go into New York every day? Cops, firefighters, nurses,
(04:04):
right who, electricians and others? Who help New York's economy,
who give money yours economy, who work in New York,
all these hard working people and you just basically slap
them in the face. I think that was an unbelievable statement,
and I'm hoping she backs off that today. Put aside
all the people who are patients in the hospitals and
who support you know, go to the restaurants, but to
(04:25):
say no thanks to New Jersey. Listen, I want everyone
to stay in Jersey and support New Jersey businesses. But
you got people who go to work to make a
living and to try to make ends meet, and you're
telling them, no thanks, we don't want you. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (04:37):
No, it was absolutely ignorant, because there are people that
get off of work that work at restaurants or bars
and get off at two in the morning and there's
no trains to take back to New Jersey or where
they want to go, and they have to drive in
and they're hit the hardest, or construction workers that have
to come in in the middle of the night, or
people that work in hospitals. It was an insult to
(04:58):
all of them. Yeah. No, absolutely, But how do you
think people feel also that are in the outer Burroughs
or on Long Island.
Speaker 3 (05:07):
In New York or Westchester exactly. Oh, I mean, you
have no idea how many people when I go out
I talked to come up to me and talk to
who are not from Jersey, from the Burrows, or from Westchester,
Long Island, who are like, we got to stop this thing.
It's gonna it's they're getting whacked too, just like we are.
And and you know you're talking about twenty three hundred
dollars a year. This is not like pocket change, right,
(05:28):
this is real money, and on top of what people
already pay for bridges and tunnels to get into New York.
So listen, this is a great win to just cut
taxes for people, stop and cut costs for people, and
and stop this congestion tax. And I also think you
know they want to go ahead and try to fight
this right right, which is what she said yesterday, And
the NTA said they're going to go ahead and keep
(05:49):
charging people. I don't know if you saw that, but
the idea they refusing to shut these things off. And
you know which, listen, they'll go to a judge, and
a judge is going to work this out, and I
believe we'll rule in fai of Jersey on this. But
what I think has to happen is that we keep
track of every nickel people are paying starting today on
these congestion taxes, and they should get reimbursed when this
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when they when New York ultimately loses in the courts,
which is what's going to happen, everyone who's had to
pay should get reimbursed.
Speaker 2 (06:17):
Great idea and wonderful point. And at the same time
that this is all happening, you're a lawsuit. The New
Jersey lawsuit is going to continue.
Speaker 3 (06:26):
Correct, We've got the New Jersey lawsuit will continue as refiled.
As a backup plan, We've got bipartisan legislation I've been
than I've got in Congress that as a backup plan.
You know, we'll keep fighting. I mean, listen, it's Jersey, right,
we keep fighting. Just grew with us. You find out
what happens, but we'll just keep going. And uh and
you know this is at the end of the day,
(06:46):
this is about making sure we help save money for
for Jersey families and make their lives easier. And that's
that's what this is about.
Speaker 2 (06:53):
I'll tell you what, I don't care how it dies.
Just so it dies. And so whether it's yeah, either
it's your lawsuit or it's go it's president.
Speaker 3 (07:03):
Stop the attack and save people money. I don't care who,
I don't care how it gets.
Speaker 2 (07:07):
Done, because it's good for New Jersey. Good luck with
the goovenatorial election. Thank you so much, Josh gottheimer. I'll
talk to you again soon, Ok, you soon.
Speaker 3 (07:16):
Take care.
Speaker 2 (07:17):
Coming up. John Feel is a national hero and he
once again is going to Washington, d C. To make
certain his nine to eleven first Responders fund isn't cut
by Doge. John is next.
Speaker 1 (07:32):
Now more of the w R Saturday Morning Show and
Larry Mante Welcome back.
Speaker 2 (07:38):
First responder. John Feel has traveled to Washington many times
to fight for health benefits and compensation for the men
and women who risk their lives and health after the
attacks of nine to eleven. Now he's going back once
again to make certain those benefits don't get cut by
Elon Musk and Doge. Here is John Feel, founder of
(08:01):
the Feel Good Foundation. John. I want to apologize to
you on behalf of everyone that you have to keep
going to Washington, d C. And fighting for the funds
that you and the others that went on nine to
eleven deserve. I think it's an embarrassment to the country
that you have to keep going down there. You think
you have it resolved, and you have to go back again,
(08:23):
So please tell us what's happening now.
Speaker 6 (08:26):
Well, old friend Larry, I think you're you with me
to know that you were instrumental in helping us over
a decade ago.
Speaker 2 (08:34):
So I did very little, did very little, but I
appreciate that.
Speaker 5 (08:39):
I'll always remember that. So thank you for having me. Yeah, yeah, look,
you know it's redundant.
Speaker 6 (08:44):
You know, the last twenty four years, going back and
forth to DC, always an obstacle, always a hurdle. We
now have two battles on our hands. One to twenty
percent cut to the CDC, which directly affects the world
trades in the health program, which is a lifelong into
the nine to eleven community, one hundred and thirty.
Speaker 5 (09:02):
Seven thousand people will be affected.
Speaker 6 (09:04):
Those who are trying to get them rolled into the program,
which is a backlog that will take longer. Those who
are trying to get their illnesses like cancer and COPD
and other respiratory illnesses and post traumatic trying to get
those illnesses certified that's gonna take longer, more and more
people are going to suffer and people will die.
Speaker 5 (09:25):
And that's not being a drama queen, that's just fact.
Speaker 6 (09:28):
This was a staff cut that needed more staff and
they took a sledge hammittatus when they should have took
the surgical night and instead of cutting in twenty percent,
they should have sewer that this program has no waste,
no abuse, suspending, nothing, no no, no shenanigans in that program, whatsoever.
Speaker 5 (09:49):
You know.
Speaker 6 (09:49):
Listen, when we got to build PASS the first time
in twenty ten, it was a litmus test to prove
that there'd be no fraud, no waste, no will be suspended,
and we came out with flying colors, hence while we
got to extended until twenty ninety.
Speaker 5 (10:01):
So shame on them.
Speaker 6 (10:03):
It's reckless, it's callous, it's mean, it's cruel, it's in humane,
it lacks humanity.
Speaker 5 (10:09):
And we're hoping, we're.
Speaker 6 (10:11):
Praying that it gets reversed, and we're going to continue
to keep the pressure on them. But we're going to
DC next week to introduce legislation to get three billion
dollars for the World Trace and the health program we
were supposed to be part of a budget deal at
the end of the year in December, and we got
cut out. We have to reintroduce it and hopefully get
(10:32):
attached to the next budget deal on March twelve.
Speaker 2 (10:35):
So when you go down there, who are you meeting with.
Speaker 6 (10:40):
Higher up, higher rank and Republicans, you know, trying to
get a meeting with Secretary Kennedy. You know, Secretary Kennedy's
slogan was make America healthy again. They kind of contradicted
themselves if they cut this program.
Speaker 5 (10:56):
How are you going to make these men and.
Speaker 6 (10:58):
Women, firefighters, cops, corrections offices. How are you going to
make them healthy again? If you don't allow them the
ability to get into a program that will save their lives.
Speaker 5 (11:08):
It makes no sense.
Speaker 6 (11:11):
But you know, Senator jilibrand Congressman Garabino, I believe Senator McCormick.
We're going to introduce legislation on Wednesday, and whoever we'll have.
Speaker 5 (11:21):
A meeting in with us. We will gladly sit down.
Speaker 6 (11:24):
We come in peace, but we're ready for a street fight,
because that's the importance in this. This isn't Republican, this
isn't democrat This is about humanity. This is about never
forgetting the most horrific day in the history of this nation,
that innocent people and heroes were sickened because of a
lie on September sixteenth, when they said.
Speaker 5 (11:44):
The air was safe to breathe and the water was
safe to drink.
Speaker 6 (11:47):
So attacking this program and the way they're doing it
with an evilness about it, it just doesn't suit well
with me. And you know, I'm a commonsense thinking guy.
Speaker 5 (11:58):
I can't.
Speaker 6 (11:59):
I can't understan then why they would do this, And
nobody can.
Speaker 5 (12:04):
Explain this why.
Speaker 6 (12:05):
I want to know why, because there's no need to
cut this program if they just looked at it.
Speaker 5 (12:11):
You can't just go to every program say I'm gonna
cut it this much.
Speaker 6 (12:14):
Look how many programs they cut that they're trying to
scramble to get people to come back. These are unqualified
people who don't know the nuances of the federal government.
They don't know how to government, They don't know how
to legislate. They know how to sign executive orders, but
that's not governing.
Speaker 5 (12:29):
And we need people capable.
Speaker 6 (12:32):
Of leading this country and making sure that the American
people are taking care of America first, right, That's what
the slogan is America first.
Speaker 5 (12:40):
This is not America first.
Speaker 2 (12:42):
Yeah, John, I agree with you. Good luck. Can we
talk to you again on Tuesday or the day after, absolutely,
Sir John Field, founder of the Feel Good Foundation. Still
to come, we ask former Trump Press Secretary Sean Spicer
what he thinks of the job Caroline Levitt is doing.
That's come. New York City Councilman Robert Holden is here
(13:02):
to talk about Mayor Adams keeping his job and working
under the thumb of Governor Kathy Hokeel.
Speaker 1 (13:09):
Back now to the w R Saturday Morning Show with
Larry Minty.
Speaker 2 (13:14):
Welcome back. Governor Hokeel will not remove Mayor Adams from
his job, but she is keeping him on a very
short leash to make certain he doesn't get too close
to President Trump. And New York City Councilman Robert Holden
is concerned with that arrangement. And Robert, I'll just ask you,
(13:34):
just give me an overview. What did you think of
Kathy Hockel's announcement.
Speaker 7 (13:38):
Well, it's the continuation of the New York City soap opera,
and you know, and it's orchestrated by Governor Hulkel. Obviously,
she's very political and all of this is because that
you know, God forbid that the mayor, Mayor Adams, wants
to work with the with the federal government, the Trump
administration on making our street safer. So this is what
(14:01):
the governor did. You know, she set up these guidelines,
you know, guardrail she called them, kind of and it's
a whole bunch of things that you know, it gives
her options and you know, almost like setting up puppet
strings for the mayor. So if they don't like what
he's doing, if they don't like that he's working with
(14:23):
ICE at Rikers Island to take criminals off the streets,
which he does on and that's what really started this.
She's going to give complete control to sue the feds
to Bradlander, likes, the Bradlander Controller of the City of
New York, the public Advocate Johnnie Williams, and the City
(14:44):
council speaker the authority to sue the federal government on
any issues that they don't like, for instance, opening an
ICE office possibly at Rikers, or taking criminals off the streets.
Now does anybody like that? Does anybody any New Yorker
really feel that's a that's a good way to go.
Uh So, it's a power grab really, but this the
(15:06):
big thing here is she's also setting up she's appointing
an inspector general to oversee the mayor's action, which is
kind of disgusting if you look at it. It's just, uh,
you know, she wants to have control and it might
be aimed also at let's say Andrew Cuomo steps into
the race and he becomes mayor. She's she's giving the options.
She says, this is gonna this is going to continue
(15:27):
until the end of the year. Uh, and then maybe beyond.
And that's the Andrew Cuomo clause in this.
Speaker 2 (15:35):
What a great storyline that will be if the former
governor and her boss becomes mayor and she has oversight
over Andrew Cuomo. That's going to cause some fights that
you can sit back and just eat popcorn as you watch.
Speaker 7 (15:51):
Yeah, we we can sit back and relax and look
at that, but just shake our heads because all of this.
You know, the new the rank and file person or
the citizen of New York. New York City really wants
safer streets. And this all started. I mean, she didn't
really pull this in September when the mayor was indicted.
(16:13):
So what change was Remember, like I said before, Tom
Holman appeared with Eric Adams on Fox about cooperation. So
I mean, we should want cooperation, especially to get criminal
aliens off our streets. So we have to remember this
when Kathy Hochel comes up for a re election, we
(16:34):
have to remember what she's done. How she paused congestion
pricing right before the elections. She didn't want to hurt
Democrats in the elections, and then when the elections were over,
she started it up again, and.
Speaker 2 (16:46):
Since she was saving us money, That's what I've that
was the most ridiculous speech I have ever seen. And
then she takes a picture on the subway saying how
safe it was. Hours before on the subway a woman
was burnt to death.
Speaker 7 (17:04):
She I mean that again, she didn't even understand the optics.
She doesn't. That's what she doesn't get. And again she
should actually stay away from New York City politics and
let's start making our streets safer. But she's not about that,
because if she if she was about safety, she would
remove Da Bragg from as Manhattan DA. She would have
(17:26):
done that to make us safer.
Speaker 2 (17:28):
But what she sees here, Counselman is a political opportunity.
That's why she's.
Speaker 7 (17:34):
Doing and that's what she's about. And she's demonstrated that
and she even tells us that. So if anybody doubts,
you know, her intentions, it's all political, all political, and
that's what is disgrateful, disgraceful. She doesn't care about us.
She shouldn't care about New Yorkers. And you know, so
if you disagree with her, especially, I mean, don't you
(17:54):
want us to work with the Fed? So, like, you know,
the mayor should work with the federal government, especially coming
out of the migrant crisis. She didn't help at all,
by the way, in that regard. She offered some money,
but never really help in settling these migrants. So she
just like and the mayor was stuck between her rock
and a hard play. So listen, the mayor had his problems.
(18:18):
So you know, the indictments looks it looks like the
indictments will will be lifted, the federal indictments. So why
is she doing this? Everybody has to ask themselves why
is she doing this?
Speaker 2 (18:28):
Take on Donald Trump to be able to say I'm
standing up to Donald Trump. That's all this is about.
This is about her running for reelection. It's not about
Mayor Adams, it's not about keeping the streets safe. It
is about her campaign for re election.
Speaker 7 (18:43):
And you know, again I want to I'll say this
as a Democrat. We have our country back with the
election of Donald Trump. Because we didn't have we had
an open border. We had we were in peril because
we didn't know who was coming over our border. And
now we that appears to have stopped, or at least
slowed down tremendously, and we're cooperating with Ice hopefully. But again,
(19:09):
this is totally Governor Hokel just trying to get control
and trying to stop that from stop the mayor from
making our streets safer. That's disgusting.
Speaker 2 (19:19):
I know, it's ridiculous. It is disgusting, and it's all
about politics. Robert Holton, new York City Council member, also
the co chair of the New York City Council Common
Sense Caucus, and you spewed a lot of common sense today.
Thank you so much, Robert. I appreciate talking to you,
look forward to talking to you again.
Speaker 7 (19:37):
Thank you still to come.
Speaker 2 (19:39):
Former Trump Press Secretary Sean Spicer is feeling a little
jealous about the treatment current press Secretary Caroline Levitt is
getting Shawn is next.
Speaker 1 (19:51):
Here again is Larry Minty with the wr Saturday Morning Show.
Speaker 2 (19:57):
Well, Sean Spicer was Donald Trump's first press secretary and
was attacked mercilessly by the media. Makes you wonder how
he feels about the way the media is being much
nicer the current press secretary, Caroline Levitt. Well wonder no longer.
Here's Sean Spicer. Sean, thanks so much for being on
the show again. Before we get to your opinion piece
(20:20):
about immigration, I've been thinking about you every time I
see Caroline Levitt press conference, and she has it easy
compared to what you went through. And as a matter
of fact, all of the first term press secretaries that
followed you, the media was vicious, both in the briefing
(20:43):
room and on television, as vicious as the Democrats were
who they were representing. When you watch Caroline Levitt and
how they have learned so much about how to handle
the press and a press room, what are your thoughts?
Speaker 3 (21:00):
Well, good morning, Larry.
Speaker 8 (21:01):
It's great to be with you again more and I
got to be honest with you, I do get a
bit jealous of but but look, I will just start
with this. She is unbelievably talented and you can't take
that away. You can't fake it. And like any good player,
I make too many sports analogies despite not playing really
(21:24):
well at any sports. But you know, if you think
about it, Tom Brady is a talented person, no matter
what Bill Belichick as a coach might have made him better.
Speaker 5 (21:34):
And I think he gives credit to him.
Speaker 8 (21:35):
But at the end of the day, Caroline's a very
intelligent and talented individual and that comes through in the
briefing room. That being said, it's a multi faceinted equation, right,
So you have her at the podium, very talented, very smart.
Then you've got President Trump, and I think his expectations.
You know, I go back to when we were in
the transition. President Trump said to me, Sean, I'm going
(21:57):
to be the most traditional president ever. And I thought, oh, well,
I know tradition, like I was in the Bush White House,
like I know how to I know that. So this
is gonna be great because I know I know him
and I know tradition, and so I'll kind of learn
how the price works and then we'll all get along.
And and he was still getting to know the office
and and understand the processes and and anyway, so that
(22:23):
that piece of it is crucial. She has a really
good relationship with Donald Trump.
Speaker 3 (22:28):
She understands him.
Speaker 8 (22:29):
And then to your point, Larry, the press had a
ball like you know, if you recall, it was like
Jim Acosta, the you know, jumping up and down, making
a clown of himself. And then and this is an
honest truth when I tell people, like what it was
like in those days, This is like, there was a
correspondent for Playboy magazine, which is again proof that there
are articles in there. And and his name was Brian Carum.
(22:52):
And after I had left, Sarah Sanders was was my replacement,
and he kind of got into it with her, and
as a result of that viral moment, CNN offered him
a contract. Right, they offered April Ryan a contract because
she got into it with me. They weren't getting They
weren't hiring people because they were talented journalists or they
had great sources, or they broke stories. They they hired
(23:15):
them because they made a spectacle of themselves in the
briefing room and it created a show. And I think
Caroline has tamed the beast because one the reporters learned.
Speaker 2 (23:25):
That it didn't go well for a lot of them.
Speaker 5 (23:28):
I mean, you look at Jim Acosta.
Speaker 8 (23:29):
He's out and it might have given him a sugar
bullet burst in terms of but the resistance of the
media writ large is not the same as it was.
And I don't think that they're getting the same applause
lines that they got even from their own networks, that
they might have eight years ago. So the dynamic has
shifted entirely. And so you know, Caroline, the other thing is,
(23:52):
remember she worked in the Donald Trump first term press
office under Kaylee Mcananey. So going back to my sports analogy, right,
she had taken some that baths, she had seen the
process work, she knew how so when she walked in
day one, she was familiar with the how the office worked,
the process, the responsibilities, all that kind of stuff. And
that's a very important thing to do because it's not
(24:15):
like you walk in and you just go I mean,
even in you know your job, you go into a
new station, you learn the personnel, you learn how, the
cadence of you know how how every every business, every
job has a has a has a newness to it.
And she was able to walk in, I think, really
understanding the job in a different way.
Speaker 2 (24:33):
Yeah, she's done a phenomenal job. I want to spend
the rest of the time talking about your opinion piece
in Newsweek. Again, we're talking to Sean Spicer and you
can read his opinion piece at newsweek dot com. The
title of it kind of sets it up perfectly. Executive
orders are a good start, but we need lasting immigration
reform that sometimes is easier said than done. What are
(24:57):
your suggestions?
Speaker 8 (24:58):
So here's the overall point is President Trump, I think
has done a phenomenal job addressing the border. And we
were gasolate for four years telling us that there wasn't
a problem, they weren't criminals, the borders were closed. We
obviously see that that wasn't true. But what can be
done by executive order can be undone by executive order.
Speaker 3 (25:15):
So we saw President.
Speaker 8 (25:16):
Biden come into office undo a lot of what President
Trump had done by executive order.
Speaker 3 (25:20):
President Trump then undoes what Biden does.
Speaker 8 (25:23):
And my point is, while we have a Republican Congress
in both the House and the Senate, get the fundamentals,
talk about hiring more the budget for the CVP and
ICE agents, Customs and Border patrol and Immigration Customs Enforcement USS.
You get all of this stuff locked in in law
(25:44):
so that the next president can't undo it. And that's
the thing. We know we have a broken immigration system.
We know that there's a big debate over you know,
different visas. We need to basically say, guys, let's you know,
there's a game. What was one of those reality TV
games where they know the money goes up and then
you bank it, And I'm like, guys.
Speaker 3 (26:03):
We need to bank it.
Speaker 8 (26:04):
We need while we have a Republican Congress, get the
part of immigration reform that we agree on. Because if
Democrats take back the House and it's a pretty you know,
I think Republicans have a really good shot of retaining
the House, but it's a slim majority in histories against us,
and once that happens, you change the dynamic and Democrats
are going to say, Okay, here's what we want. Maybe
it's just a bunch of people on the path of
(26:26):
citizenship or something. So while Republicans control everything, don't miss
this opportunity to lock it in legislatively.
Speaker 2 (26:33):
Yeah, I agree with you one thousand percent, and you
can read more about that. Executive orders are a good start,
but we need lasting immigration reform by Sean Spicer, Trump's
first Press secretary, host of Sewn Spicer Show. Find them
on the iHeartRadio app and also on YouTube, and you
(26:54):
can read this opinion piece at newsweek dot com. Sewan
has always helpe you come back.
Speaker 5 (26:59):
Anytime you want, Larry, thanks for having me.
Speaker 2 (27:01):
Former Trump Press Secretary Sewn Spicer, thanks for listening to
Saturday Morning, and thanks as always to producer Peter Iolano
for putting this show together. I'll be back to host
Minty in the Morning from six to ten on Monday.
Hope you have a great rest of the day and
a wonderful weekend.
Speaker 1 (27:20):
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