The WOR Saturday Morning Show with Larry Mendte - - 6 - 28 - 2025

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
This is a podcast from wor Now the wr Saturday
Morning Show.

Speaker 2 (00:06):
Here's Larry Minti. Good morning and welcome to Saturday Morning.
On this week's show, a shaker in the New York
mayoral race, Socialist Zorin Mamdani wins the Democratic primary and
is now the front runner to be the next mayor
of New York. Political analyst JC Polanco on where New
York goes from here. Futurist reporter Kevin Sirelli says there

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is a cyber attack from Iran that is happening right now.
Former Assemblyman Dove Heikend warns us all about the dangers
of Zorin Mamdani's candidacy. And doctor Arthur Kaplan from New
York University's Langone Medical Center says the attack on medical
professionals is on the rise. But first let's hear from J. C. Polonko,

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political analyst and University of Mount Saint Vincent assistant professor.
You are just taking off. Thanks for fitting us in.
We will appreciate your time.

Speaker 3 (01:01):
Really, I can miss an opportunity to be with you.
How are you today?

Speaker 2 (01:04):
I'm doing really good. I know you're busy these days.
Talk give me. I'm not even gonna ask a question
to start off. Just give me your first thoughts about
this election and what it means.

Speaker 3 (01:14):
Well, it's a political earthquake curd around the country. It's
a huge win for some mum Donnie out of Queens,
devastating shock for the former governor of New York Andrew Como.
And it's a real new day in New York politics
where the Democratic Socialists of America have flexed their muscle
in New York City and now have the mantle. They're

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in control. They've won the primary, and this is their party.
This is not your father's Democratic Party anymore in New
York City, that's for sure.

Speaker 2 (01:44):
Well, how about nationally, And that's where I want to
take this because I know that there has been a
lot of infighting in the Democratic Party about where they're
going to go after they took such a beating in
the last national election, and they're trying to find a
new leader, and they're trying to find a new direction
because they know that some of the things of the
past didn't work. But there is a contingent in the

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party that's fighting to hold on to the old ways.
And part of the old ways is Zorin Mamdani. I mean,
everybody's talking about him about being something new, but this
socialist element has been there for a long time. It's
just flexing its muscle, maybe at the wrong time. Is
this the future of the Democratic Party nationally?

Speaker 3 (02:27):
Larry, there is a civil war in the Democratic Party.
You're right about that. But you know, the socialism fringe
was a fringe. These were guys that were at the
very tail end. They would get a couple of votes
here and there. You had one senator out of Vermont
who was a proud socialist. It was not even a
registered Democrat. But what has happened now is that socialism,
at least for now, appears to have gone mainstream and

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started with AOC. When AOC took out Joe Crowley and Queens,
this said a national shockwave and that you have a
new Democratic Party that has young people that have no
problem them socialists, and you know, Bernie Sanders embraced that
and we started seeing more and more of that around
the country. The problem is that there's a civil war.
You have your mainstream Democrats that recognize that you can

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never win the majority without winning swing districts and purple
states and purple districts. You need to be able to
bring Republicans into the fold, independence into the fold in
order to win the majority in Congress, in order to
win the majority in the Senate, and in order to
ever win the majority of the electoral College.

Speaker 2 (03:27):
Yeah, I have the shocker. Yeah, it's absolutely a shocker,
except for the fact that we have been going that
way for the last four years. I was stunned. After
covering Joe Biden for most of my life in Delaware
and hearing about him and talking to him and going

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to his rallies and hearing all his speeches. He was
never what he was during those four years. He was
never that far to the left. But I think he
was pulled that far to the left to a growing
contingent in the Democratic Party if he wanted to hold power.
So I think for at least the last maybe ten years,

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but certainly the last five years, they have been pulling
this way. And now this this is their hero.

Speaker 3 (04:18):
Oh yeah, you know you're right about that. You had
to appease the base. The problem is this that the
country is not reflective of the Democratic Party base, and
if they ever want to win nationally, Larry, they have
to recognize that You cannot win with a socialist message
in the United States. The United States is a purple
country made up of purple districts from east to west,

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and the only way to win in many of these
districts is by having Democrats that can bring over independents
and Republicans. You know, when you think about when you
think about what we've just seen in New Jersey, for example,
with Mickey Cheryl, you have a Democrat who was a
Navy veteran helicopter piet, who is a centrist, and she's
going to have she had to run towards the middle
in order to win. You remember, President Trump only lost

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New Jersey by about four points. So we're talking about
a country that has moved closer to the middle. And
there's no way that you could win as a socialist nationally.
And if the Democrats think that this is going to
be the message that's going to win you nationally in Georgia,
in North Carolina, in Arizona, in Nevada, it's the wrong message.
You're never going to be able to win with the
socialist message nationally. And the Republicans know it. They've already

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started attacking Assembly Minimum Donnie and New York City democrats
making it a national issue. Whoever's the mayor of New
York City becomes a national figure by default, and Republicans
will use the fact that he is a socialist Democrat
to their advantage in the midterm elections. I already see it.
It's I see the writing on the wall.

Speaker 2 (05:43):
Yes, I agree with you, And why wouldn't they? Why
why wouldn't they? I think I think zoramam donni is.
I know you're not going to go this far, but
I will. I think he's an embarrassment in New York.
I think the fact that there were so many people
that went out and voted for him makes us look
bad around the rest of the country because they're just
going to say that we're crazy. But here's my question

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for you. Can he win in the general election?

Speaker 3 (06:08):
Yes, he can win the general election. The Democrat who
wins the primary for New York City mayor by default
is the favorite. Because of the overwhelming number of Democrats
in New York City. It's only become more and more Democrats.
This is the issue though the last time we had
an independent mayor like we have now run in November
without a major party, without being a member of a

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major party was Michael Bloomberg, and if you remember that race,
he had hundreds of millions of dollars at his disposal
and he still had to pick up the Republican line
in order to win in November. Currently, Mayor Adams is
running as an independent on the anti Semitism line, without
a major party line, but with the power of incumbency.
And in November, Larry, you don't need a majority of

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the vote. You could win with a mere plurality. So
you have Courtesy with the Republican candidate. You have incumbent
Mayor Eric Adams run hard as the incumbent who can
promise everything from now to November, has the power of
incumbency to his advantage. And then you have Assembling the
Mamdani who runs as the favorite by default because he's
the Democratic nominee. It's going to be a very interesting November.

Speaker 4 (07:13):
Larry.

Speaker 3 (07:14):
Anything is possible, but he is the favorite. Although I
could tell you now, with a plurality of the vote,
anything can happen. You can have a Mayor Adams win reelection.
You could see Courtesy will surprise the world. It really
depends on turnout. And remember this, I need your listeners
to remember, only eight percent of New York City's five
point two million registered voters voted yesterday. It was a

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close party primary. It's not over yet. There's still a
long time ago.

Speaker 2 (07:40):
Yes, you know you left out in that equation. You
left out Andrew Cuomo. You don't think he's going to
run as an independent.

Speaker 3 (07:46):
I know he has an independent line, but I was
trying to gauge what he was saying yesterday, and it
seems as if he said he said, I'm going to
do what's best for the party and I have to
evaluate things. Well he said that, I started thinking maybe
perhaps he's not going to be in this November. He
does have a line. If he did want to throw
his hat in the race, he still has a lot
of support across the city. He was the number two yesterday,

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and if he does stay in the race, it's going
to be even easier to win with a plurality of
the vote, because you put yet another candidate that's going
to be able to garner a lot of votes in
November from independence and Republicans. J. C.

Speaker 2 (08:20):
Polanco always great political analyst and University of Mount Saint
Vincent assistant professor and attorney I'll see you on TV
and then hope to talk to you soon. Hey you, Larry,
have a great day still to come. Futurist reporter Kevin
Sirelli says a cyber attack from Iran is happening right
now and truth Social was targeted. Kevin is next.

Speaker 1 (08:42):
Back now to the WR Saturday Morning Show with Larry MINTI.

Speaker 2 (08:47):
Welcome back. Did you know that we are under a
cyber attack from Iran? Well we are, and Kevin Sirilli,
futurist reporter and founder of the Meet the Future website,
has all the details.

Speaker 4 (08:59):
Let's start.

Speaker 2 (09:00):
That was something that may be happening now and I
was surprised to see this. There may already be an
Iranian cyber attack on the US.

Speaker 5 (09:09):
Yeah, you know, in the hours really that followed the
US attack against the nuclear sites of facility sites in Iran.
These activists, these hackers behind keyboards, they're really just showing
brute force. And what do I mean by that. They're
doing what's known in the intelligence community as DDoS attacks
denial of services attacks. All that means, Larry, is that

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they're clogging the system, jamming the servers, taking popular websites
offline for a couple of hours. Now, some Iranian hackers
took credit and it's already back online, so this is
not some widespread outage, but they took credit for actually
clogging the truth social President Trump's platform social media platform

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following the Iranian nuclear facility attacks. But that said, you know,
I'm based in Washington, d C. And what concerns the
intelligence community, the military community is that Lord forbid there
would ever be a cyber nine to eleven that has
not happened. And the United States is the best innovation,
the best technology in the world. But that said, these

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d DOS attacks are showing to the architects of these
tech platforms that these hackers have the ability to penetrate.

Speaker 2 (10:23):
Wait, you take it back up for a second. What
is a d DOS attack?

Speaker 5 (10:26):
Yes, it's a denial of service attack, and all that
is it just overwhelms a server and floods it with
fake traffic, so it clogs the you know, to use
a telephone analogy, it clogs the phone lines and it
makes it harder for anyone to access the line. And
so it's not high tech, it's just brute force. But

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it can knock major systems offline if the defenses are weak.

Speaker 2 (10:52):
So what you're saying, it's like Ticketmaster when Taylor Swift
tickets go on sale.

Speaker 5 (10:57):
I am not calling Taylor Swift a cyber terrorist and
all right.

Speaker 2 (11:02):
But that's like, that's what it does to the website track.

Speaker 5 (11:05):
I see the analogy and I like, and you're absolutely correct.

Speaker 2 (11:10):
Okay, Natalie has always suspected Taylor Swift of being an agent.
She says this all the time, that she thinks that
she might be an agent. Uh, let's but it is
really the b team of hackers, isn't it. This is
in China getting into the national defense. This is just
a whole lot of hackers flooding the system. So it's

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a minor attack, isn't.

Speaker 5 (11:33):
It compared to annoying protesters? Right to be honest with you,
And so you know, I remember when I was a kid,
my teachers would say the United States is protected because
of the oceans. But I think as a culture, as
a society, we need to be thinking of protecting the
digital domain, but the digital frontier as if it's a
piece of land. Because as we continue to advance with technology,

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we rely on artificial intelligence, we rely on driverless cars
in the future. A cyber attack can jump from URL
to IRL. So the bottom line is that we want
to make sure that our defense capabilities keeps pace with
our ability to implement innovations like AI.

Speaker 2 (12:15):
Yeah, for sure, that gets a little scary.

Speaker 5 (12:17):
And listen, and I'm not you know, you know this.
I'm an optimist when it comes to technology, and I'd
rather live in a world with this technology than without it.
And this artificial intelligence, by the way, United States invented
that we are able to and we have the best
cyber capabilities in the world, but that we are able
to defend it as well. And especially with AI, when

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you look at the energy grids for example, and how
much energy it takes to use AI, We're going to
have to make sure that our energy grid structures are
protected as well. Something that I'm really interested in is
quantum computing, which is going to come after artificial intelligence.
Depending on which tech company you ask, we're either about
five years out or fifteen years out from quantum computing,

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which is, like I would argue, going to be bigger
than the next Internet, and that actually could pose significant
risk to encryption. And people when they hear encryption, they
think of crypto, and yes, that's correct, but encryption is
how we secure everything. And so if you're wondering what
the government's really up to on the tech front, they

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actually just had a huge hacking thing where they sent
in the math nerds. Larry and the math nerds had
to come up with ways to defend the digital frontier
and encryption from quantum because quantum is arguably could be
an encryption killer.

Speaker 2 (13:38):
Let's back up for a second and talk again about
the B list hackers from Iran. They got into Trump's
truth social well not.

Speaker 5 (13:47):
His account, but the platform itself, and so they were
able to just again, there's been some concern typically when
there's some type of military force that they go after,
banking institutions they go after, or energy grids. As you mentioned,
it bangs the question from a diplomatic sense, what is
the cyber red line? You know, so awesome when we

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talk about modern warfare, we talk or even just warfare,
we talk about there's a red line. If this country
does this, this country will do that. And you know,
President Trump and was praised by the Israelis for holding
that red line as it relates to last week's attack
against the nuclear facilities. But on the cyber front, the

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rules of the road are much more gray, and so
obviously if they took out hospital digital systems, that would
warrant a response. But when there's just these denial of
services against private sector companies, what actually is the red line?
And our businesses protecting themselves against it, and so you

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get into a lot of complicated issues very fast, about
reputational risks for shareholders and whatnot. But it is the
future of warfare.

Speaker 2 (14:59):
Thanks so much, Evan Surreally, futurist reporter and founder of
the Meet the Future website. Next time we talk to you,
we'll talk about life on Mars. Still ahead on Saturday morning,
there is a rise on an attack on doctors. We'll
talk with doctor Arthur Kaplan, bioethicist at New York University's
Langne Medical Center. Coming up a dire warning about the

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future of New York from the founder of the Americans
Against Anti Semitism, Dove Hikened. Dove will be with us.

Speaker 1 (15:30):
Now more of the WOOR Saturday Morning Show and Larry
Minte Welcome back.

Speaker 2 (15:36):
Dove Hikend is a former New York assemblyman and founder
of the organization Americans Against Anti Semitism, and he has
a dire warning about the future of New York if
Zorin Mamdani becomes mayor. I'm so glad, Dove that you
said yes when we asked you to come on. Thank you, sir, it's.

Speaker 6 (15:55):
My pleasure to be with you. This is an important moment,
not just for New York, but as you pointed out,
the country the nation is watching what happens in New
York and one thing we must defeat Mondani. There is
no question about it. We need to take him very seriously.
He's smart. In fact, he's Morgan smart. You know, just

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yesterday he talked about additional funds to fight anti Semitism. Well,
the best way to fight anti Semitism is to have
him disappear.

Speaker 2 (16:28):
That's true. I want to play something for you. Eric
Adams announced yesterday that he was officially running, and then
he was everywhere, including the Don Lemon podcast, And here's
what I wanted to play for you. Do you think
he's an anti semit Yes, I do. I think some
of the comments.

Speaker 6 (16:43):
You know, you look at some of his rap lyrics
where he's talked about, you know, his embracing of Hamas.

Speaker 2 (16:50):
That says a lot. So if his rap lyrics embrace
Hamas and he's been an anti Semite. They were talking
about being an anti Semite now for over a decade.
That goes way back. But can Eric Adams beat him?
Who is who can take him on? Right now?

Speaker 6 (17:08):
Well, I, first of all, I would urge everyone to
take a step back. And I know this is very serious,
but we need to all watch carefully what happens. I
would say by September first, you know, just about Labor Day.
I'm you know, I am supporting Curtis Sliwa, but I
think all of us need to look and say, okay,

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what on Labor Day? What's the story? Look, Culomo's running.
I wish there was only one single candidate of the
three that are running right now. I know there are
a bunch of others, but the three main candidates, we
need one. But that's not happening. Cloma is running, Adams
is running, and of course Curtis. So wait, let's wait

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to Labor Day. Labor Day, we see what the situation is.
Everybody has a chance to work for two months. Let's
see what you can do. Look at the polls, watch
the bolles. At the end of the day, everyone has
to get off their high horse. And say we need
to do what's best for the people of the City
of New York, all people in the City of New

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York and support one single person. So I'm hoping that
will happen. I'm not a great fan former governor. I'm
not crazy about Adams, Okay, I'm you know, the last
four years as mayor, I'm not quite sure what he did. Okay,
he established a task force to fight anti seminism.

Speaker 4 (18:35):
You know, when when was that?

Speaker 6 (18:37):
As the last four years? Two freaking weeks ago? Where
have you been? Like, why didn't you do it a
year ago? Three years ago? The numbers were sky rocketing, right, Okay,
So I'm ready to support him, Cuomo, you name it.
I'll be on the same page. Let's give everyone a chance.
You are absolutely correct, Larry, He Mamdani can be beaten.

Speaker 2 (18:59):
Oh he can too. I think he can too. I'm
more worried about the vote being split between everyone else.
But I also think the more that comes out about him,
the more he's going to start to slide a little
bit in the polls. I do think he's an absolute
danger to the society. But I'll tell you something, and

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I found this out personally because you may have heard
I posted something on social media and I was attacked
by the mom Donni people. I mean, they are legion
on social media and they are energized and they're excited.
We need that same energy, even if it's anti mom Donni.
We need that same energy on the other side. And

(19:40):
I'm not sure it's there right now.

Speaker 6 (19:42):
You're absolutely correct, it's not there. So that's what I'm saying.
Let's give credit to the other side. We talking so
much and we need to support this one or that one.
First of all, let's make sure that your neighbor, your friends,
your family, that everything. This old person is registered to
vote in November. If you own a home in New York,

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if Mamdannie gets elected, the day after, your house is
going to be worth twenty percent less. You won't even
be able to sell your your house if you want
to get out of New York. He Mamdannie is a
catastrophe for New York, no question about it.

Speaker 2 (20:20):
Let's talk about someone out there. Let's talk about something
really important right here, because I think we at this
point can't be be labored enough. He's promising all these
things for free, and he says he's going to raise
the income tax on the ridge and raise the corporate
tax that has to come out of the state, and
then they have to agree to send money to New

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York City. You've been in the Assembly. You're the best
person to ask on this. You've been in the Assembly
for thirty six years. Can that happen?

Speaker 6 (20:49):
I would hope not. But the Assembly and State Senate
that exists in twenty twenty five is quite different from
the one I left a couple of years ago. It
is very much to the left, a lot of radicals there.
You know, nothing is impossible. It's a different world up
in Albany. When I left Albany, the Republicans controlled the

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state sent it and they made sure that all the
crazy stuff that the Assembly was doing and passing never
got anywhere because they stopped it. So let's not the
best thing we can do is to make sure Mamdani
is not the mayor of New York. And we can
do it if we're smart, If every single person, instead

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of just talking and getting excited, do something concrete, like
make sure everybody's resister to vote, make sure let's work continuously.
We have to make sure people come out to vote
in November. I mean that the numbers will be dramatic.
We need seventy eight percent of the people coming out
to vote. If the people come out to vote, the

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people well people in New York, Mamdani will lose and
it will not be close. So there's a lot of
work to be done.

Speaker 4 (22:03):
Yeah, that's really hoping.

Speaker 2 (22:05):
That's really well said. It is really well said because
because he has an energized base and the other people
have to be just as energized. And you're right, it
is not out there right now. I think it's really fascinating.
And you were great to talk to right now because
you switch parties, so you saw this coming a while ago.
Tell people why you switch parties.

Speaker 6 (22:26):
Well, I switched parties because I saw the Democratic Party
not being the party of my parents, of every one
of my family in the past. It is a radicalized party.
I mean, look, right now, you have people like Jerry Nagler,
a Jew, a guy who went to Yeshiva by the Way,
parochial school, who endorsed ma'm donnie for God's sake. You

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have people like Schumer, the protector of the Jewish people.
That's what he says all of his life. He protects
the Jewish people, an absolute fraud. He sending beautiful to
just come. I'm Donnie congratulating him. So the enemy is
also within. But you know what, Larry, it's okay. We're
gonna do fine. We're going to win if we're united

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on some level and create that enthusiasm, you know. I
you know what, I think the best example I can
give Dencin's Juliani. In the nineteen nineties, when New York
was in trouble. People were afraid of, you know, whether
there was a future in New York, and people came
out to vote. I remember I sub I was a

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you know, a Democrat. I supported Juliani and the people
were coming out the post clothes at nine o'clock. There
were still lines around.

Speaker 2 (23:40):
The Yeah, that's what we need right now. Dove, you've
been great and that's all great advice, and I hope
we can do that. Come back, let's talk about it again,
Former Assemblyman Dove Hiken, the founder of Americans Against Anti Semitism.
There is an increase an attack on doctors and medical personnel.
Why well, we'll ask doctor Arthur Caplan from New York

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Land Gone Medical Center.

Speaker 1 (24:05):
Next here again is Larry Minty with the WR Saturday
Morning show.

Speaker 2 (24:12):
There is a real concern about an increase in violence
in hospitals and medical centers across the country with patients
attacking doctors. Let's talk about that with doctor Arthur Kaplan,
professor of bioethics at New York University Land Gone Medical Center.
Good morning, doctor, how are you?

Speaker 4 (24:30):
Hey? Are you so?

Speaker 2 (24:31):
I'm not gonna yell, I'm not gonna curse, I'm not
gonna spit, I'm not gonna threat you, because now I
hear that's bad for my health?

Speaker 3 (24:37):
Is that right?

Speaker 4 (24:38):
Is bad for your health? There is a recent study
much more increase in patients attacking, spitting, yelling, at, acting
in impolite, uncivil or just nasty hostilities toward their doctors.
The study just came out and it showed that about

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out almost eighteen percent of doctors support in the past
year that they had been through some assault or attack
from their physician. And this is all over the place,
in hospital settings, clinics, some even in private offices. So
the question is first, what do you do about this?

(25:20):
And I think the doctors need some support. You know,
many of them feel pretty traumatized after they get attacked
with it trying to help somebody so institutions should be
doing that. More to the point, here's a question for you, Larry.
Do I have to take care of a patient who
threatens my life?

Speaker 2 (25:38):
I know, I obviously not. As a matter of fact,
if they threaten your life, you should be reporting them
to the police. Are you allowed to do that? Do
ethics allow you to report a patient they do?

Speaker 4 (25:50):
And you could do it internally to hospital security. You
don't even have to go outside, you know, to the
regular police. So hospitals need to set up protocols about
what to do in the case of really violent, nasty
or even if somebody literally attacks. I think you could
say to that patient, We're done here. I'm not gonna

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be able to take care of you. You are you know,
hostile to me, and I don't feel comfortable doing it,
and I'm calling security and all of that should be
something that we teach our doctors and young doctors and
nurses about what to do if they're the victims of
this sort of stuff we shouldn't put up with. It
should be clear and there should be also, I hate

(26:32):
to say it, but posted notices. You know you do X,
Y or Z, you will not get care at this facility.
Period you're expected to behave. By the way. One weird
trigger this comes out of COVID and all the politics
is sometimes doctors are wearing masks or shields. Some hospitals

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have policies that you have to do that in certain
units like bone marrow transplant, where everybody is really susceptible
to infection or cancer. Word and patients get ticked off
because they read that as you're a Democrat or you're
a liberal, or you're supporting you know whatever. Obviously it's
got nothing at all to do with anything, but that

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has become so political that that could trigger that kind
of a reaction.

Speaker 2 (27:19):
Well, that can't be the number one reason.

Speaker 3 (27:21):
Is it.

Speaker 6 (27:22):
No?

Speaker 4 (27:22):
No, No, it's just there on that list of what is.

Speaker 2 (27:26):
The number one reason.

Speaker 4 (27:28):
I think the number one reason is getting bad news
something that the patient, the person just doesn't want to hear.
It could range from you got to lose weight, or
you're gonna be in serious trouble all the way over
to I'm sorry, but grandma's not going to live or
your baby's not gonna live, and people blow up. Now
I think they part of this. Also, I'll say this,

(27:48):
I think they used to get more spiritual support in
the hospital from chaplains or from people you know in
their community. They knew where to turn when they got
bad news. Even though it's a pretty religious country, a
lot of these people don't have connections to churches or
synagogues or mosques or whatever, and so they kind of
just they don't know what to do with that grief.

Speaker 2 (28:11):
Yeah, no, I can see that happening. I hope that
they read flag these patients for other doctors, especially if
it's not just a one off. If I can understand
that somebody overreacting, that's not the way they are normally.
But if it happens a couple of times, doctors should know,
and you were right, I agree with you. They should
be able to say I'm not seeing this patient. They're dangerous.

Speaker 4 (28:34):
Yep. You can also do things like I'm going to
take care of you, but the security guard is going
to be here. I'm passing you after somebody else because
I can't. But the next person in this facility, you're
gonna have to come under supervision, and that's just how
it is. Or there's gonna be a big, burly student
in the room with us. You know, we're gonna set

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up safer conditions, And I absolutely agree with you. If
you can read flag somebody and get the word out
that they're consistently behaving badly, we should. Unfortunately, as we
all know, the system, the healthcare system we live in,
isn't set up that way. If I go to NYU
and some guys there for the fifth time being an idiot,

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and that he shows up at Mount Sinai later, n
YU isn't really talking about outside about that. We don't
have the records between places. We can do it within
an institution, but we're not really set up to track
somebody throughout the whole healthcare world.

Speaker 3 (29:33):
Right.

Speaker 2 (29:33):
Getting back to my original point, it's bad for your
health because the one person that you want to be
really nice to is your doctor.

Speaker 4 (29:41):
I sure would, because.

Speaker 2 (29:43):
You want your doctor to put you at the top
of the list for everything.

Speaker 4 (29:48):
You want to go out and defend somebody. You know.
Not that I'm endorsing screaming or yelling anybody, but your
doctor is probably like at the bottom of the list
the person you want to take off.

Speaker 2 (29:58):
Yeah, exactly. Doctor Arthur Kaplan, professor of bioethics at New
York University len Gone Medical Center that wraps up Saturday
morning for this week. Thank you for listening, and thanks
as always to producers Natalie Vaka and Peter Airolano. I'll
be back Monday morning from six to ten on Mente
in the morning. Hope you join us. This has been

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