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Speaker 1 (00:00):
This is a podcast from wor Now the WR Saturday
Morning Show. Here's Larry Minti.
Speaker 2 (00:08):
Good morning and welcome to Saturday Morning. Coming up on
today's show, After the Park Avenue mass shooting by a
madman who claimed he suffered from CTE, we talk with
Chris Nowinsky, co founder and CEO of the Concussion Legacy Foundation,
about the condition and if it could cause a person
to commit mass murder. The New Jersey governor's race is
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tightening up according to the polls. Can we trust them?
We talk with doctor Benjworkin from Rowan University. With AI
taking jobs away, more and more high school graduates are
choosing tech schools like Lincoln Tech. We'll talk with Scott Shaw,
President and CEO of Lincoln Tech and are you ready
(00:53):
to use AI? At the drive through tech expert Rich
DeMuro tried it and loved it. We'll talk to the
host of Rich on Tech heard Sunday nights from eight
to eleven at night right here at WR. Let's start
with Chris Nowinski, co founder and CEO of the Concussion Foundation,
about the Park Avenue mass murderer who claimed he had CTE. Chris,
(01:19):
thanks so much for joining us. Well appreciate your expertise today.
Speaker 3 (01:22):
Now, thanks for talking about this difficult subject.
Speaker 2 (01:24):
Well, let's talk about it first. What is the CTE?
Speaker 3 (01:27):
CT is a degenerative brain disease has a lot of
similarities to Alzheimer's, but you get it in your teens
or twenties while you're playing sports and getting repeated traumatic
brain injuries, and then it continues to spread throughout the
rest of your life. End the stage, it results in dementia,
usually in older age, and along the way people have
abnormal behaviors and changes to the way they think.
Speaker 2 (01:48):
Chris, I know you played football both in high school
and in college, and you were a pro wrestler. Did
you suffer concussions?
Speaker 3 (01:56):
I did, But it's important to note that there's no
time between number of concussions and CTE. Most of the
brain injuries that I suffered as a player were actually silent, asymptomatic,
and so one of the important things. I played eight
years of football, wrestled for three with the WW I'm
certainly at risk for this independent if I had concussions
diagnosed or not.
Speaker 2 (02:15):
Is that right? So anybody can get CTE, it doesn't matter.
I thought it was completely tied to concussions and brain injuries.
Speaker 3 (02:23):
Well, it depends in a language you used. It is
tied to traumatic brain injuries. But we published a study
to help people understand this where we highlighted a different
study that showed for every one concussion that I might
have suffered in college, I had three hundred and forty
hits that were harder than that concussion. And what we
understand is that I couldn't feel one neuron dying, and
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so those hard hits are probably causing microscopic we call
subclinical traumatic brain injury. And that's why when we study
this now a thousand people who were athletes, it's always
the people with the longer careers, the more hits, whether
or not they were diagnosed concussions that have CTE. And
so it's years of play which is a proxy for
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hard hits, number and strength of hits that is driving
this and that is important note for everyone to know.
Speaker 2 (03:12):
And a CTE how does it manifest itself? How does
it change one's behavior?
Speaker 3 (03:17):
It depends in part because it is caused by injuries,
and so the original lesions and your prefernal cortex are
going to be a little different than everybody.
Speaker 2 (03:25):
I'm sure You've been looking very carefully because of your
expertise at the story of Shane Timora, the shooter at
Park Avenue that killed for and injured another person. Does
it make sense that him having CTE would cause this violence.
Speaker 3 (03:42):
That's a difficult question answer, So I'll give you the
long answer, which is, you know, we've.
Speaker 2 (03:46):
Seen this before. There were where these horrible things have happened.
Speaker 3 (03:49):
I think about Philip Adams, former NFL player, who had
thirty two, lost his mind with leading journals it made
no sense, and then killed six strangers down the road,
including two children. He did have and his frontal lobes
are atrophying, and you could make an argument and they're pathologist,
doctor Amnicky did that the changes to his frontal lobe
would have unlocked this sort of crazy, you know, inappropriate
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social behavior. We've also seen these happen where people's brains
were normal, right, so this this can happen. You know,
ct is not going to cause an act, but it
is going to make you more likely to have, you know,
abnormal behaviors. In the absence of this person's brain being studied,
the assumption is he just had you know, some psychosis,
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you know, some you know, who knows what he was
diagnosed with during life, and it may have nothing to
do with CT and he just focused on the CT
as part of his psychosis. That's one option. But another
option is he did have traumatic brain injuries through playing
sports and it did change him. And because that is possible,
and because in the big picture, certainly some of the
people who are who have had these abnormal behaviors, it
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is TBI and CT driving it. That's why we need
to continue to raise a Andison tried to prevent all
these unnecessary hits that are happening in these sports that
are causing this. And we have looked at the brains
of forty five former high school players who died before
thirty and fourteen to the forty five did have the disease.
This is a disease that you see in less than
one percent of the population. So the fact that families,
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parents usually are able to spot it so well suggest
there is something you know related there.
Speaker 2 (05:23):
Well, you just scared a lot of families and including me,
my son played college football. What do you do? How
do you get tested to see if you have CTE. Well,
that's the other big problem is that we can't tested
during life. You know, when we started the Night Brain Bank.
Speaker 3 (05:38):
In two thousand and eight Boston University CD Center, there's
the first academic center worldwide focused on this, And so
it takes decades to figure out how to diagnose something
during life. We're getting very close, but we can't. And so,
and I understand why you're concerned too. You know, I'm concerned.
We've already diagnosed my former roommate and the captain of
the Harvard football team from nineteen ninety nine, Chris Heitesman
with CTE. He was the greatest in the world until
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he developed a severe drinking problem that we could not
pull him out of.
Speaker 2 (06:04):
So it like if you are a college player.
Speaker 3 (06:07):
You know, we're actually working with a number of colleges
to reach out to their alumni and say, if you
are concerned about yourself for a loved one, get help
the important messages.
Speaker 2 (06:14):
Help works.
Speaker 3 (06:15):
But you know we should having this conversation with a
former player yesterday. It's a shame to find out after
your career you may have damaged your brain.
Speaker 2 (06:24):
Chris, How do people get a hold of you? How
do people find out more about the Concussion Legacy Foundation?
Speaker 3 (06:30):
Now go to Concussion Foundation dot org or on all
the social medias and especially we have a free helpline.
If you are concerned, go to CLF Helpline dot org
or Concussion Foundation dot org and ask for help and
we will find you a doctor. We'll find you support groups,
will help you get better. And the good news this
treatment does work, especially for these midlife symptoms.
Speaker 2 (06:49):
Hey, Chris, thank you for joining us today. Thank you
for what you do. Chris Nowinski, PhD, co founder and
CEO of Concussion Legacy Foundation and co founder of Unite
Brains Bank at Boston University. Thanks again, sir. Up Next,
more and more high school graduates are skipping four year
colleges to go to tech schools. Scotchyaw, president of Lincoln Tech,
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one of the best tech schools in the country, is
here to talk about.
Speaker 1 (07:17):
It now more of the WOOR Saturday Morning Show and
Larry Minte welcome back.
Speaker 2 (07:23):
With the rising cost of universities, a lot of people
are looking to tech schools. Scotchyaw is the president of
one of the best tech schools in the country, Lincoln Tech. Scott,
thanks for joining us.
Speaker 4 (07:37):
It's wonderful to be here.
Speaker 2 (07:39):
So what is behind that trend?
Speaker 4 (07:41):
Well, it is really amazing. I've been at Lincoln Tech
for twenty four years and we've never seen the growth
that we're seeing now. And it is because what you
just referenced it. The younger generation has realized that maybe
college isn't the right thing for me, and so they're
looking for alternatives. And what's happened is, I think it's
tough to put it all together. But since COVID, you know,
people weren't in school, So then that started causing the
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question should I go to college. Then after COVID, there's
all this talk of student debt and how much there
is and how students have gone to college and have
this debt to pay off, and some of them can't
even get jobs after going to college. And then you
add on to that fear and concern about AI, is
AI going to take my job away? What should I
study when I'm in college? And then all of a sudden,
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the students are on social media and they're seeing on
TikTok and other things young people like themselves in the trades,
showing them being welders, mechanics, electricians, doing very everyday mundane
things that one would think, but people are fascinated to
watch their stories, and this is really driven I think
a lot of people and parents to wonder should my
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son or daughter go to college or is there a
better alternative? And so a lot of them are looking
for something that's frankly, a little more real. There's something,
excuse me, that's very tangible. Every day they're doing something
with their hands and seeing the results, and not everyone
wants to sit in cubicle, maybe behind a laptop and
not know where their information is going or what they're doing.
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In the trades, you see it every day.
Speaker 2 (09:07):
And there's a couple of trends going on, isn't there
That The cost of universities and for your colleges is enormous.
I mean, it just keeps growing and growing and growing.
And the salaries for someone getting into some of the
tech trades are going up, and there's a demand.
Speaker 4 (09:23):
Oh there's a huge demand. We have more employers than
we have students, and so that's a good formula for students.
It's the wages, as you just mentioned, are going up,
and these are good careers and there's things that you
can make a good living in them. And as you
apply yourself, like in any job, the more you do,
the better you'll become. The more certifications you have, the
more you can make and it's a very fulfilling opportunity
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for young people.
Speaker 2 (09:46):
And now let's talk specifically about Lincoln Tech. What do
you offer.
Speaker 4 (09:49):
Sure so at Lincoln Tech. Well, first of all, next
year will be our eightieth anniversary gratulations, thank you. And
we started off in two technologies in nineteen forty six
that were new at that point. One was the automatic
transmission and the other was air conditioning. It was just
starting to be put into people's homes after the war,
and our founder, Warren Davies, wanted to give other vets
opportunities to train, and so we offer these two careers.
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But now we have three major areas that we serve.
We have about a third of our students in healthcare
in New Jersey with the largest provider of licensed practical
nurses as well as medical assistants. We also have about
a third in the skilled trades, which would be welding, electrical,
and HVAC as well as an automation and machining program
as well in our MAWA campus. And then a third
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of the students are in transportation, so that would be
a diesel mechanic an auto mechanic or collision repair, and
all three are seeing good demand across the board. And
we have campuses in twelve different states and we're seeing
increase in all those locations.
Speaker 2 (10:49):
And with computers and technical stuff, do you have that.
Speaker 4 (10:52):
We do have a small computer program, but that's really
not what we're known for. We're really known for working
with your hands, and that's what we're going to focus
on going forward, which.
Speaker 2 (11:02):
Is what the growing trend is. That's what we're looking
for because they know that job's always going to be
here while other jobs may be replaced. Is there one
that's hotter than the other right now?
Speaker 4 (11:14):
I would say that certainly, electrical is probably the most popular,
but they're all growing, so I can't say that one's
really outstripping the other. There's just such a demand for
all of them. Because, as you may know, there's a
lot of changes taking place. Everyone's talking about AI. To
supply AI, you need data centers, you need a lot
more electricity. We need to redo our power grid out there. Also,
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the military is looking to rebuild their submarine fleet. They
want to build three subs a year. They're anticipating that
they'll need a quarter of a million skilled trades people
for that. Obviously, our infrastructure, a lot of it was
built in the sixties and seventies and needs to be redone.
I mean, here in this area it's little Guardi Airport.
It's a beautiful airport. They're redoing JFK, But other things
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like that need to be updated and not acquires skilled
trades people.
Speaker 2 (12:01):
What's amazing to me is I've been looking at the
stats for trade schools and for four year colleges and
people getting out and looking for jobs. It's becoming much
more difficult for people that have some of the degrees
when you get out of college. They're in demand when
they come out of technical school, aren't they. For sure?
Speaker 4 (12:20):
As I said, we have employers that are constantly coming
on our campus trying to entice our students to go
to them because there just aren't enough students out there
to meet their needs. So it is a great time
to go into these fields.
Speaker 2 (12:32):
Now you're certainly more affordable than a four year college.
We are, but about how much I mean, is how
much it's going to cost somebody.
Speaker 4 (12:38):
So we're going our programs are probably twenty five thousand
to about thirty five thousand, and they last about a year,
but one year with Lincoln Tech is equivalent to going
to school for four semesters because our students really want
to get in and get out and get into the workforce,
so we don't have long summer breaks and holiday breaks,
and they're going to go to school more hours in
the week. That's why they can get so much education
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in a shorter period of time.
Speaker 2 (13:02):
Because there is demand for what you teach. Do you
work with some of the employers in the area.
Speaker 4 (13:09):
Oh, absolutely, And in fact, we have employee partnerships on
a national scale, such as with Johnson Controls, with the
largest trainer of Tesla technicians out there, and other companies
like that large OEMs, but also locally, we deal with
thousands of companies and we bring them onto our campus
for career days and meet with students as well as
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we bring twice a year employers talk to our education folks.
We want to make sure that the curriculum that our
students are learning can be applied on day one we're
on the job, so we're constantly updating what our curriculum is,
getting rid of things that no longer are needed, but
also looking to the future and what's going to enable
our students to remain strong and vibrant in their career.
Speaker 2 (13:51):
I'm sure there's going to be some people, maybe some
parents and kids listening to this that think this is
the right path for them. How do they get a
hold of you or how do they get hold of
Lincoln Tech?
Speaker 4 (14:01):
Well, the best way is to learn more at Lincoln
Tech dot edu. We have a lot on our website.
They're videos, testimonials from students, employers, even some of our
faculty members. It's a great way to figure out who
we are. And then I encourage people to go to
the campus. So that's really where the magic happens.
Speaker 2 (14:17):
How does someone know in their life or do they
know instinctively because you know your students probably better than anyone.
How does someone know if they're right for this?
Speaker 4 (14:26):
Well, to be honest, there's a range of students. There's
some that have always thought, I want to be a
mechanic or want to do something as my father or
uncle did it, so they come in with a clear understanding.
Others have heard from their friends that have gone to
Lincoln Tech that they've had a successful career, but they
may be not quite sure which of these careers they
should pursue. So they come in, they look at what
we have to offer, they speak to our admissions people.
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They'll give them some guidance. But it's really a range
of people that are coming to us. And we work
with a lot of adults. The average age of our
students twenty five, but half of our students are twenty
one and younger. So we're serving a very broad mix
of people.
Speaker 2 (15:02):
A lot of Lincoln Techs in the New York area.
Speaker 4 (15:04):
A lot of Lincoln Techs in the New York area.
We have six campuses in New Jersey. We have a
campus in Queen's and we're opening up a new campus
in Hicksville, Long Island. So this is our kind of well,
Lincoln started in Newark, New Jersey, so this is our home.
Speaker 2 (15:18):
Okay, just one more time. Give the website for sure,
because I'm sure people will be interested.
Speaker 4 (15:23):
So it's Lincoln Tech with a tech dot edu.
Speaker 2 (15:26):
Wonderful. Thank you so much for being with us today.
Speaker 4 (15:29):
Thank you, I really appreciate it.
Speaker 2 (15:30):
Scott Shaw, President and CEO of Lincoln Tech. Is the
governor's race in New Jersey getting closer. That depends on
whether or not you believe the polls. We'll talk to
doctor Benjwarkin from Rowan University about it. Still to come.
A shoe company has come up with the brilliant idea
of putting air tags in children's shoes. We'll fill in
(15:53):
the details with rich de Muro from wr's rich On
Tech Show.
Speaker 1 (15:58):
Coming up here again is Larry Minty with the WOR
Saturday Morning Show.
Speaker 2 (16:05):
A brand new poll is out showing the race for
governor in New Jersey as tightening up. For some insights
onto why that is happening, let's talk with doctor Benjamin Dwarkin,
director of the Rowan University Institute for Public Policy and Citizenship.
Good to talk to you again, Ben, Thanks for being
with us.
Speaker 5 (16:24):
Oh, good morning, Larry, thanks for bringing me on.
Speaker 2 (16:26):
So I'm trying to figure out all this polling going
on in New Jersey, and there hasn't been a lot, right,
There's been these two major polls and they're vastly different.
So you've got the Rutgers Eagleton poll which was done
in June and you had Mikey Cheryl ahead by twenty
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one points. Then you have the Fairley Dickinson poll which
was just out and he's Mikey Cheryl was ahead by
eight points. Now, either Jack Chittarelli caught up thirteen points
in an months with not a lot of TV and
you know, a lot of campaigning but not a lot
of news coverage, or one of these polls is really wrong.
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Pick a poll.
Speaker 5 (17:12):
We know that this is going to be an interesting race.
We know that this race in the end is going
to be close, and so we should first understand that
these poles are happening very early in the process of
the race for New Jersey governor, happening this November, and you,
me and your producer, we take a poll among the
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three of us about how awesome is Warry Meanty, and
it's going to be one hundred. It depends on who
you ask. Okay, that's much I'm saying. So there were
differences in and that's why one of the reasons we
should understand these poles are not done exactly the same way,
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and therefore you can get different numbers depending on who
you at, how many Republicans, how many Democrats, etc. So
I wouldn't take too much stock that. You know, people
are gonna spin it anyway they want, but we know
where this is gonna end up. This is going to
be a close race, this is an open seat. You've
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had two terms of a Democratic governor New Jersey. New
Jersey rarely really you have to go back to the
nineteen sixties to find out where they gave a third
term to any party. Usually after two terms, the state's
ready to switch. At the same time, we've got a
long tradition of voting for the party that is opposite
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of whoever won the White House the year before, and
so you would think that with Trump in the White
House and he's got according to these polls, not doing
is not particularly popular in New Jersey these days, you
would think the voters in New Jersey are gonna vote
Democratic for governor. So you have these two competing narratives,
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these themes, and what we know. We're not sure how
it's going to turn out, but we know it's going
to be close in the end.
Speaker 2 (19:05):
So it's interesting you said that. First of all, let
me get back to your hypothetical poll for a second.
You said that when people ask who Larry Minty is,
if you would have asked the three of us, it's
one hundred percent. So what do you think it is?
Then when you go out to the general public, are
you saying it's going to be far lower than that.
Is that what you're insinuating on this?
Speaker 5 (19:26):
Absolutely, it'd be so I would have sweated, and that's
within the margin of errors.
Speaker 2 (19:35):
That's a very good answer. Now we can move on.
I was going to say, thank you so much for
joining us, but now we can move on. You know,
it's really interesting what you said about the fact that
there is this trend out there, and it's not just
in New Jersey, it's in a lot of states. If
it happens in the middle of a president's term, it
usually goes to the other party, unless it's heavily Democratic
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or heavily Republican. And yet this is an interesting year,
isn't it. Because you're right, Donald Trump's poll numbers in
general have dropped these either some the ones that are
nice to them, or in the mid forties the ones
that are not nice to whom are down in the
mid to high thirties. However, the Democratic Party is polling
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like a twenty percent or twenty two percent. That doesn't
have an effect on a race, not.
Speaker 5 (20:25):
Really people as certainly in a race that's going to
be as focused as this, meaning there's not one hundred
different races going on. You have the New York mayor's race,
the Virginia governor's race, of the New Jersey governments race
happening this November. These are the big races people are
focused on, and so the Democratic brand is really fined
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by the individual candidates in each of these parties, which
is why New York City has got a very different
dynamic with Mom Donnie as they're likely or the party's
nominee as opposed to say New Jersey with Mikey Cherrow
or Abigail Spanberger in Virginia. So I wouldn't really take
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too much stock in the party brand. These things are
really going to be defined by the individual candidates themselves,
and that helps. Let me say that actually helps Jack
Chenarelli because he doesn't want to get tied to the
negativity in New Jersey, at least that surrounds Donald Trump.
He wants to say I'm my own guy, and in
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a lot of ways, I think that this kind of
dynamic should help him.
Speaker 2 (21:34):
Although he's not hiding from Donald Trump. I've listened to
on the campaign trail and he always says how proud
he is to have the endorsement of Donald Trump. So
that's why I'm interested in this. I guess the big
question is will he ask Donald Trump or Kenny Deny
Donald Trump to campaign for him.
Speaker 5 (21:55):
It's unclear. You know. Look, the fact is in May,
Donald Trump had an approval rating in New Jersey that
was about forty seven percent. But the polls that you
were talking about, the FDU pull dropped him down to
about thirty seven percent. So we'll see where the economy
is in October. We'll see, you know, on how things
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are doing. If these tariffs don't have any negative impact
on the economy, then you know, maybe it's good to
bring in Donald Trump. If he's up around forty seven percent,
it could certainly motivate the base. But the endorsements out there,
everyone's gonna know about it. I think, you know, Jack
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Shouldarelly won't necessarily need Donald Trump to motivate Republicans. They're
talking of eight years of a democratic governor. They feel
good about how they did in twenty twenty four year
in New Jersey, and I think you know, you're not
gonna need Donald Trump to kind of energize people. That
the Republicans in New Jersey are gonna be plenty of
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energized already.
Speaker 2 (22:58):
Well, Okay, then so you were the jack should really
campaign and you get a call from the Trump people,
you get a call from the White House that Donald
Trump would like to help out, he'd like to come
in and hold a rally. How do you say no
to that?
Speaker 5 (23:10):
You don't. He's the leader of your party, he's the
president of the United States. You're gonna need his help,
god willing if you win, So you don't say no.
If the man wants to come, then he comes.
Speaker 2 (23:23):
So even if you think it hurts you, even if
if you think it hurts your candidate or could hurt
your candidate, you have to say yes at that time.
Speaker 5 (23:30):
But like you pointed out, Larry, and you know, it
was very a two point. I mean that he's endorsed
by Donald Trump. Uh, he's not running away from the endorsement.
So what's the big deal if you get a fresh picture.
I mean, if this is what it is, you're tied
uh to Donald Trump's fortunes and political fortunes, and so
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I mean everybody's going to know it if there's a
rally in because the present wants to be here than
great and then you have it. It's not like we're
telling anybody something new world is going to know that.
He got that. Donald Trump indorsed Jack generally.
Speaker 2 (24:10):
Doctor Benja Workin, director of the Rowan University Institute for
Public Policy and Citizenship. Up next, how about this, Your
next fast food order may be done by a bot
wor Tech host Rich de Muro explains. Next.
Speaker 1 (24:27):
Back now to the WR Saturday Morning Show with Larry Minty.
Speaker 2 (24:33):
Welcome back. You know what, I absolutely love this idea
children's shoes with an air tag built in. Let's hear
more about that and how to order fast food with
AI from Rich de Muro, host of rich on Tech,
heard right here on woar Rich, Good morning to you.
I want to jump right to your experience at an
(24:54):
AI drive through. Tell us how it works and how
your experience went.
Speaker 6 (24:59):
Hey, good morning to Larry. Yeah, I mean we knew
this was going to happen. AI has been impacting just
about every aspect of our lives, and companies of course
are really interested in this technology for the efficiency that
it brings to their jobs. And I visited a drive
through that when you pull up, you hear a voice
and it is not a human, it is an AI
(25:20):
voice and it actually took my order really well you
can hear it. It was clear, it was polite. It
even upsold me. And that's really what these companies like
about this AI drive through is that it upsells people
like wild So when you go to the drive through,
they may say, do you want fries with that? This
one knows the entire menu inside and out, including all
(25:42):
the combos, all the coupons, promotions, and so it will
try to upsell you at every turn. The only thing
I didn't like about it it wasn't as playful as
I would have imagined. You know, you would think AI
would be fun. It wasn't. It was all business, which
I thought. You know, it did the job, but I
would like a little bit more playful nature.
Speaker 2 (26:00):
And they can do that, you know, you just kind
of tell them and they can make the AI be
whatever you want. And so that's really interesting. So now
if that happens, I'm going to give you the credit.
Rich Bitchat. This is really fascinating. So it's it's sort
of like social media but talking to people nearby.
Speaker 6 (26:19):
Yeah, I think this is fascinating. I think this could
be one of the biggest stories of the next year
if it takes off. Jack Dorsey one of the co
founders of Twitter came up with this new app called Bitchat.
It's available now on iPhone. You can get it on Android,
but you have to do what's called side loading, so
it's a little tough to do for the average person.
If you're not familiar with that process, just wait. But
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it uses Bluetooth only, so there's no servers, there's no account,
there's no login, no data collection. Everything is relayed peer
to peer via nearby phone, so it creates a mesh
network with Bluetooth, so you can have your phone in
airplane mode and still chat with people around you. The
way I see this is that it creates a chat
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room anywhere you are in the world. So if you're
in a restaurant you want to chat about the service
with other people sitting there, you can do that. If
you're on an airplane you want to chat with the
other passengers, you can do that. You're at a ballgame,
you want to chat about the ballgame, you can do that.
This is really powerful and it's different than using Wi
Fi or cellular because it can also be used in
disaster situations where those guys don't work. I have a
(27:26):
feeling Larry Kids in the classroom are going to use
this to get around all the blocks on the network
with chatting apps. So again, it's called Bitchat. It's available
now on the iPhone and coming soon to Android.
Speaker 2 (27:38):
Yeah, I'm going to try to get that immediately. That's wonderful.
I'll tell you what. I'm a huge air tag fan.
I have air tags just about on everything because I
lose stuff so much. But this new idea by Sketchers
is wonderful and they're going to sell a lot of
shoes because of this.
Speaker 5 (27:56):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (27:56):
And I think people have been doing this on their
own using Littles and you know, adapters and things they
get off of Amazon. But now Sketchers has kids shoes
that have a hidden compartment in the soul where you
can place an Apple air tag. And I think you
even need a screwdriver to unscrew it so that no
one can just pop this thing out easily. But you
(28:18):
put the air tag in there, obviously, you know how
the air tags work. You can find the location of
the shoes. And keep in mind some people are still
a little bit confused about the way air tags work.
They are not GPS. They don't have a GPS or
cellular connection built in. They use Bluetooth and they basically
ping the iPhones or the Apple devices in the area
that are connected to the Internet to sort of relay
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their location. And so basically this is not exact. You know,
if your kid went missing, you might not be able
to find them per se, but I think there's so
many iPhones out there that you'd be able to locate them.
This is not a collaboration with Apple. This is just
sketchers sort of thinking outside the box. Prices start at
fifty two for these sneakers and the alternative if you
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don't want to, you know, if you want to just
add this to the sneakers you already have. There's a
device from it's called tagamoles and this is from another
company that just makes those. You can search them on Amazon,
but you can attach those to any shoes basically.
Speaker 2 (29:17):
So is it just for children now or do they
have them for adults?
Speaker 6 (29:20):
This is just for children, but I have a feeling
I already got a couple of emails from people saying
they should make these for everyone, and it makes sense.
But I think if you go on Amazon and you
search sort of like air tag holder for sneakers, or shoes,
you can find them. It's not gonna be as slick
because it's not built in, and obviously you could take
those off versus this is sort of like in the
sole of the shoe, which makes a lot more sense.
(29:42):
But look, people love to use air tags. Like you said, Larry,
I've got one on just about just about everything I own.
There's even a Nintendo switch case that came out recently
that's got a little slip in area for an air tag.
So people love these things because they're just inexpensive and
they keep track of your stuff.
Speaker 7 (30:00):
My son has a case for his AirPods that have
place for the air tag.
Speaker 6 (30:05):
Yeah, and would you love to have technology for your
kids built in on them?
Speaker 2 (30:10):
Yes?
Speaker 6 (30:11):
Well, I don't know if I'm going to get anything.
Speaker 7 (30:13):
On my twenty and twenty three year olds right now,
but when they were little it would have been pretty nice.
Speaker 2 (30:19):
I have eighteen and twenty one, and I'd rather I'd
love to give it to them and have them not
know it's there, so I can track where they are
at all times real quick. Because this is important. There's
an iPhone and computer virus scam people need to know about.
Speaker 6 (30:35):
Yeah, I mean, these are not new. They've been going
around forever, but I keep getting emails from people about them.
So basically, if your iPhone gets one of those pop
ups that says viruses detected, install this software. Do not
install the software. It is completely fake on the iPhone,
just force closed Safari and then go into your settings
app Safari and clear your history from today and yesterday.
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If you're on Windows and you get one of these
big screens that says you have a virus on your computer,
we are shutting down your Facebook account. We're making your
computers you can't use it until you take action. Remember
this combination of keyboard strokes. Hold down at all to
F four on Windows. All F four will close out
your browser instantly and that will go away. If you
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can't do that, just press and hold the power button
on your computer until your screen goes dark. They want
you to call the number on your screen. That's when
the scammers get access to you. Do not do that.
Speaker 2 (31:30):
Rich DeMuro, host of rich on Tech. You can hear
a show tomorrow night from eight to eleven on WOR
that wraps up Saturday morning for this week. Thanks so
much for listening, and thanks to producers. Natalie Vaka and
Peter Airolano for putting this show together every week. I'll
be back Monday morning from six to ten for Menti
(31:51):
in the Morning. Hope you join us. This has been
a podcast from WR
This is a podcast from wor Now the WR Saturday
Morning Show. Here's Larry Minti.
Speaker 2 (00:08):
Good morning and welcome to Saturday Morning. Coming up on
today's show, After the Park Avenue mass shooting by a
madman who claimed he suffered from CTE, we talk with
Chris Nowinsky, co founder and CEO of the Concussion Legacy Foundation,
about the condition and if it could cause a person
to commit mass murder. The New Jersey governor's race is
(00:32):
tightening up according to the polls. Can we trust them?
We talk with doctor Benjworkin from Rowan University. With AI
taking jobs away, more and more high school graduates are
choosing tech schools like Lincoln Tech. We'll talk with Scott Shaw,
President and CEO of Lincoln Tech and are you ready
(00:53):
to use AI? At the drive through tech expert Rich
DeMuro tried it and loved it. We'll talk to the
host of Rich on Tech heard Sunday nights from eight
to eleven at night right here at WR. Let's start
with Chris Nowinski, co founder and CEO of the Concussion Foundation,
about the Park Avenue mass murderer who claimed he had CTE. Chris,
(01:19):
thanks so much for joining us. Well appreciate your expertise today.
Speaker 3 (01:22):
Now, thanks for talking about this difficult subject.
Speaker 2 (01:24):
Well, let's talk about it first. What is the CTE?
Speaker 3 (01:27):
CT is a degenerative brain disease has a lot of
similarities to Alzheimer's, but you get it in your teens
or twenties while you're playing sports and getting repeated traumatic
brain injuries, and then it continues to spread throughout the
rest of your life. End the stage, it results in dementia,
usually in older age, and along the way people have
abnormal behaviors and changes to the way they think.
Speaker 2 (01:48):
Chris, I know you played football both in high school
and in college, and you were a pro wrestler. Did
you suffer concussions?
Speaker 3 (01:56):
I did, But it's important to note that there's no
time between number of concussions and CTE. Most of the
brain injuries that I suffered as a player were actually silent, asymptomatic,
and so one of the important things. I played eight
years of football, wrestled for three with the WW I'm
certainly at risk for this independent if I had concussions
diagnosed or not.
Speaker 2 (02:15):
Is that right? So anybody can get CTE, it doesn't matter.
I thought it was completely tied to concussions and brain injuries.
Speaker 3 (02:23):
Well, it depends in a language you used. It is
tied to traumatic brain injuries. But we published a study
to help people understand this where we highlighted a different
study that showed for every one concussion that I might
have suffered in college, I had three hundred and forty
hits that were harder than that concussion. And what we
understand is that I couldn't feel one neuron dying, and
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so those hard hits are probably causing microscopic we call
subclinical traumatic brain injury. And that's why when we study
this now a thousand people who were athletes, it's always
the people with the longer careers, the more hits, whether
or not they were diagnosed concussions that have CTE. And
so it's years of play which is a proxy for
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hard hits, number and strength of hits that is driving
this and that is important note for everyone to know.
Speaker 2 (03:12):
And a CTE how does it manifest itself? How does
it change one's behavior?
Speaker 3 (03:17):
It depends in part because it is caused by injuries,
and so the original lesions and your prefernal cortex are
going to be a little different than everybody.
Speaker 2 (03:25):
I'm sure You've been looking very carefully because of your
expertise at the story of Shane Timora, the shooter at
Park Avenue that killed for and injured another person. Does
it make sense that him having CTE would cause this violence.
Speaker 3 (03:42):
That's a difficult question answer, So I'll give you the
long answer, which is, you know, we've.
Speaker 2 (03:46):
Seen this before. There were where these horrible things have happened.
Speaker 3 (03:49):
I think about Philip Adams, former NFL player, who had
thirty two, lost his mind with leading journals it made
no sense, and then killed six strangers down the road,
including two children. He did have and his frontal lobes
are atrophying, and you could make an argument and they're pathologist,
doctor Amnicky did that the changes to his frontal lobe
would have unlocked this sort of crazy, you know, inappropriate
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social behavior. We've also seen these happen where people's brains
were normal, right, so this this can happen. You know,
ct is not going to cause an act, but it
is going to make you more likely to have, you know,
abnormal behaviors. In the absence of this person's brain being studied,
the assumption is he just had you know, some psychosis,
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you know, some you know, who knows what he was
diagnosed with during life, and it may have nothing to
do with CT and he just focused on the CT
as part of his psychosis. That's one option. But another
option is he did have traumatic brain injuries through playing
sports and it did change him. And because that is possible,
and because in the big picture, certainly some of the
people who are who have had these abnormal behaviors, it
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is TBI and CT driving it. That's why we need
to continue to raise a Andison tried to prevent all
these unnecessary hits that are happening in these sports that
are causing this. And we have looked at the brains
of forty five former high school players who died before
thirty and fourteen to the forty five did have the disease.
This is a disease that you see in less than
one percent of the population. So the fact that families,
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parents usually are able to spot it so well suggest
there is something you know related there.
Speaker 2 (05:23):
Well, you just scared a lot of families and including me,
my son played college football. What do you do? How
do you get tested to see if you have CTE. Well,
that's the other big problem is that we can't tested
during life. You know, when we started the Night Brain Bank.
Speaker 3 (05:38):
In two thousand and eight Boston University CD Center, there's
the first academic center worldwide focused on this, And so
it takes decades to figure out how to diagnose something
during life. We're getting very close, but we can't. And so,
and I understand why you're concerned too. You know, I'm concerned.
We've already diagnosed my former roommate and the captain of
the Harvard football team from nineteen ninety nine, Chris Heitesman
with CTE. He was the greatest in the world until
(06:01):
he developed a severe drinking problem that we could not
pull him out of.
Speaker 2 (06:04):
So it like if you are a college player.
Speaker 3 (06:07):
You know, we're actually working with a number of colleges
to reach out to their alumni and say, if you
are concerned about yourself for a loved one, get help
the important messages.
Speaker 2 (06:14):
Help works.
Speaker 3 (06:15):
But you know we should having this conversation with a
former player yesterday. It's a shame to find out after
your career you may have damaged your brain.
Speaker 2 (06:24):
Chris, How do people get a hold of you? How
do people find out more about the Concussion Legacy Foundation?
Speaker 3 (06:30):
Now go to Concussion Foundation dot org or on all
the social medias and especially we have a free helpline.
If you are concerned, go to CLF Helpline dot org
or Concussion Foundation dot org and ask for help and
we will find you a doctor. We'll find you support groups,
will help you get better. And the good news this
treatment does work, especially for these midlife symptoms.
Speaker 2 (06:49):
Hey, Chris, thank you for joining us today. Thank you
for what you do. Chris Nowinski, PhD, co founder and
CEO of Concussion Legacy Foundation and co founder of Unite
Brains Bank at Boston University. Thanks again, sir. Up Next,
more and more high school graduates are skipping four year
colleges to go to tech schools. Scotchyaw, president of Lincoln Tech,
(07:13):
one of the best tech schools in the country, is
here to talk about.
Speaker 1 (07:17):
It now more of the WOOR Saturday Morning Show and
Larry Minte welcome back.
Speaker 2 (07:23):
With the rising cost of universities, a lot of people
are looking to tech schools. Scotchyaw is the president of
one of the best tech schools in the country, Lincoln Tech. Scott,
thanks for joining us.
Speaker 4 (07:37):
It's wonderful to be here.
Speaker 2 (07:39):
So what is behind that trend?
Speaker 4 (07:41):
Well, it is really amazing. I've been at Lincoln Tech
for twenty four years and we've never seen the growth
that we're seeing now. And it is because what you
just referenced it. The younger generation has realized that maybe
college isn't the right thing for me, and so they're
looking for alternatives. And what's happened is, I think it's
tough to put it all together. But since COVID, you know,
people weren't in school, So then that started causing the
(08:04):
question should I go to college. Then after COVID, there's
all this talk of student debt and how much there
is and how students have gone to college and have
this debt to pay off, and some of them can't
even get jobs after going to college. And then you
add on to that fear and concern about AI, is
AI going to take my job away? What should I
study when I'm in college? And then all of a sudden,
(08:24):
the students are on social media and they're seeing on
TikTok and other things young people like themselves in the trades,
showing them being welders, mechanics, electricians, doing very everyday mundane
things that one would think, but people are fascinated to
watch their stories, and this is really driven I think
a lot of people and parents to wonder should my
(08:45):
son or daughter go to college or is there a
better alternative? And so a lot of them are looking
for something that's frankly, a little more real. There's something,
excuse me, that's very tangible. Every day they're doing something
with their hands and seeing the results, and not everyone
wants to sit in cubicle, maybe behind a laptop and
not know where their information is going or what they're doing.
(09:05):
In the trades, you see it every day.
Speaker 2 (09:07):
And there's a couple of trends going on, isn't there
That The cost of universities and for your colleges is enormous.
I mean, it just keeps growing and growing and growing.
And the salaries for someone getting into some of the
tech trades are going up, and there's a demand.
Speaker 4 (09:23):
Oh there's a huge demand. We have more employers than
we have students, and so that's a good formula for students.
It's the wages, as you just mentioned, are going up,
and these are good careers and there's things that you
can make a good living in them. And as you
apply yourself, like in any job, the more you do,
the better you'll become. The more certifications you have, the
more you can make and it's a very fulfilling opportunity
(09:45):
for young people.
Speaker 2 (09:46):
And now let's talk specifically about Lincoln Tech. What do
you offer.
Speaker 4 (09:49):
Sure so at Lincoln Tech. Well, first of all, next
year will be our eightieth anniversary gratulations, thank you. And
we started off in two technologies in nineteen forty six
that were new at that point. One was the automatic
transmission and the other was air conditioning. It was just
starting to be put into people's homes after the war,
and our founder, Warren Davies, wanted to give other vets
opportunities to train, and so we offer these two careers.
(10:12):
But now we have three major areas that we serve.
We have about a third of our students in healthcare
in New Jersey with the largest provider of licensed practical
nurses as well as medical assistants. We also have about
a third in the skilled trades, which would be welding, electrical,
and HVAC as well as an automation and machining program
as well in our MAWA campus. And then a third
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of the students are in transportation, so that would be
a diesel mechanic an auto mechanic or collision repair, and
all three are seeing good demand across the board. And
we have campuses in twelve different states and we're seeing
increase in all those locations.
Speaker 2 (10:49):
And with computers and technical stuff, do you have that.
Speaker 4 (10:52):
We do have a small computer program, but that's really
not what we're known for. We're really known for working
with your hands, and that's what we're going to focus
on going forward, which.
Speaker 2 (11:02):
Is what the growing trend is. That's what we're looking
for because they know that job's always going to be
here while other jobs may be replaced. Is there one
that's hotter than the other right now?
Speaker 4 (11:14):
I would say that certainly, electrical is probably the most popular,
but they're all growing, so I can't say that one's
really outstripping the other. There's just such a demand for
all of them. Because, as you may know, there's a
lot of changes taking place. Everyone's talking about AI. To
supply AI, you need data centers, you need a lot
more electricity. We need to redo our power grid out there. Also,
(11:37):
the military is looking to rebuild their submarine fleet. They
want to build three subs a year. They're anticipating that
they'll need a quarter of a million skilled trades people
for that. Obviously, our infrastructure, a lot of it was
built in the sixties and seventies and needs to be redone.
I mean, here in this area it's little Guardi Airport.
It's a beautiful airport. They're redoing JFK, But other things
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like that need to be updated and not acquires skilled
trades people.
Speaker 2 (12:01):
What's amazing to me is I've been looking at the
stats for trade schools and for four year colleges and
people getting out and looking for jobs. It's becoming much
more difficult for people that have some of the degrees
when you get out of college. They're in demand when
they come out of technical school, aren't they. For sure?
Speaker 4 (12:20):
As I said, we have employers that are constantly coming
on our campus trying to entice our students to go
to them because there just aren't enough students out there
to meet their needs. So it is a great time
to go into these fields.
Speaker 2 (12:32):
Now you're certainly more affordable than a four year college.
We are, but about how much I mean, is how
much it's going to cost somebody.
Speaker 4 (12:38):
So we're going our programs are probably twenty five thousand
to about thirty five thousand, and they last about a year,
but one year with Lincoln Tech is equivalent to going
to school for four semesters because our students really want
to get in and get out and get into the workforce,
so we don't have long summer breaks and holiday breaks,
and they're going to go to school more hours in
the week. That's why they can get so much education
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in a shorter period of time.
Speaker 2 (13:02):
Because there is demand for what you teach. Do you
work with some of the employers in the area.
Speaker 4 (13:09):
Oh, absolutely, And in fact, we have employee partnerships on
a national scale, such as with Johnson Controls, with the
largest trainer of Tesla technicians out there, and other companies
like that large OEMs, but also locally, we deal with
thousands of companies and we bring them onto our campus
for career days and meet with students as well as
(13:29):
we bring twice a year employers talk to our education folks.
We want to make sure that the curriculum that our
students are learning can be applied on day one we're
on the job, so we're constantly updating what our curriculum is,
getting rid of things that no longer are needed, but
also looking to the future and what's going to enable
our students to remain strong and vibrant in their career.
Speaker 2 (13:51):
I'm sure there's going to be some people, maybe some
parents and kids listening to this that think this is
the right path for them. How do they get a
hold of you or how do they get hold of
Lincoln Tech?
Speaker 4 (14:01):
Well, the best way is to learn more at Lincoln
Tech dot edu. We have a lot on our website.
They're videos, testimonials from students, employers, even some of our
faculty members. It's a great way to figure out who
we are. And then I encourage people to go to
the campus. So that's really where the magic happens.
Speaker 2 (14:17):
How does someone know in their life or do they
know instinctively because you know your students probably better than anyone.
How does someone know if they're right for this?
Speaker 4 (14:26):
Well, to be honest, there's a range of students. There's
some that have always thought, I want to be a
mechanic or want to do something as my father or
uncle did it, so they come in with a clear understanding.
Others have heard from their friends that have gone to
Lincoln Tech that they've had a successful career, but they
may be not quite sure which of these careers they
should pursue. So they come in, they look at what
we have to offer, they speak to our admissions people.
(14:49):
They'll give them some guidance. But it's really a range
of people that are coming to us. And we work
with a lot of adults. The average age of our
students twenty five, but half of our students are twenty
one and younger. So we're serving a very broad mix
of people.
Speaker 2 (15:02):
A lot of Lincoln Techs in the New York area.
Speaker 4 (15:04):
A lot of Lincoln Techs in the New York area.
We have six campuses in New Jersey. We have a
campus in Queen's and we're opening up a new campus
in Hicksville, Long Island. So this is our kind of well,
Lincoln started in Newark, New Jersey, so this is our home.
Speaker 2 (15:18):
Okay, just one more time. Give the website for sure,
because I'm sure people will be interested.
Speaker 4 (15:23):
So it's Lincoln Tech with a tech dot edu.
Speaker 2 (15:26):
Wonderful. Thank you so much for being with us today.
Speaker 4 (15:29):
Thank you, I really appreciate it.
Speaker 2 (15:30):
Scott Shaw, President and CEO of Lincoln Tech. Is the
governor's race in New Jersey getting closer. That depends on
whether or not you believe the polls. We'll talk to
doctor Benjwarkin from Rowan University about it. Still to come.
A shoe company has come up with the brilliant idea
of putting air tags in children's shoes. We'll fill in
(15:53):
the details with rich de Muro from wr's rich On
Tech Show.
Speaker 1 (15:58):
Coming up here again is Larry Minty with the WOR
Saturday Morning Show.
Speaker 2 (16:05):
A brand new poll is out showing the race for
governor in New Jersey as tightening up. For some insights
onto why that is happening, let's talk with doctor Benjamin Dwarkin,
director of the Rowan University Institute for Public Policy and Citizenship.
Good to talk to you again, Ben, Thanks for being
with us.
Speaker 5 (16:24):
Oh, good morning, Larry, thanks for bringing me on.
Speaker 2 (16:26):
So I'm trying to figure out all this polling going
on in New Jersey, and there hasn't been a lot, right,
There's been these two major polls and they're vastly different.
So you've got the Rutgers Eagleton poll which was done
in June and you had Mikey Cheryl ahead by twenty
(16:47):
one points. Then you have the Fairley Dickinson poll which
was just out and he's Mikey Cheryl was ahead by
eight points. Now, either Jack Chittarelli caught up thirteen points
in an months with not a lot of TV and
you know, a lot of campaigning but not a lot
of news coverage, or one of these polls is really wrong.
(17:10):
Pick a poll.
Speaker 5 (17:12):
We know that this is going to be an interesting race.
We know that this race in the end is going
to be close, and so we should first understand that
these poles are happening very early in the process of
the race for New Jersey governor, happening this November, and you,
me and your producer, we take a poll among the
(17:35):
three of us about how awesome is Warry Meanty, and
it's going to be one hundred. It depends on who
you ask. Okay, that's much I'm saying. So there were
differences in and that's why one of the reasons we
should understand these poles are not done exactly the same way,
(17:55):
and therefore you can get different numbers depending on who
you at, how many Republicans, how many Democrats, etc. So
I wouldn't take too much stock that. You know, people
are gonna spin it anyway they want, but we know
where this is gonna end up. This is going to
be a close race, this is an open seat. You've
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had two terms of a Democratic governor New Jersey. New
Jersey rarely really you have to go back to the
nineteen sixties to find out where they gave a third
term to any party. Usually after two terms, the state's
ready to switch. At the same time, we've got a
long tradition of voting for the party that is opposite
(18:38):
of whoever won the White House the year before, and
so you would think that with Trump in the White
House and he's got according to these polls, not doing
is not particularly popular in New Jersey these days, you
would think the voters in New Jersey are gonna vote
Democratic for governor. So you have these two competing narratives,
(18:59):
these themes, and what we know. We're not sure how
it's going to turn out, but we know it's going
to be close in the end.
Speaker 2 (19:05):
So it's interesting you said that. First of all, let
me get back to your hypothetical poll for a second.
You said that when people ask who Larry Minty is,
if you would have asked the three of us, it's
one hundred percent. So what do you think it is?
Then when you go out to the general public, are
you saying it's going to be far lower than that.
Is that what you're insinuating on this?
Speaker 5 (19:26):
Absolutely, it'd be so I would have sweated, and that's
within the margin of errors.
Speaker 2 (19:35):
That's a very good answer. Now we can move on.
I was going to say, thank you so much for
joining us, but now we can move on. You know,
it's really interesting what you said about the fact that
there is this trend out there, and it's not just
in New Jersey, it's in a lot of states. If
it happens in the middle of a president's term, it
usually goes to the other party, unless it's heavily Democratic
(19:57):
or heavily Republican. And yet this is an interesting year,
isn't it. Because you're right, Donald Trump's poll numbers in
general have dropped these either some the ones that are
nice to them, or in the mid forties the ones
that are not nice to whom are down in the
mid to high thirties. However, the Democratic Party is polling
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like a twenty percent or twenty two percent. That doesn't
have an effect on a race, not.
Speaker 5 (20:25):
Really people as certainly in a race that's going to
be as focused as this, meaning there's not one hundred
different races going on. You have the New York mayor's race,
the Virginia governor's race, of the New Jersey governments race
happening this November. These are the big races people are
focused on, and so the Democratic brand is really fined
(20:48):
by the individual candidates in each of these parties, which
is why New York City has got a very different
dynamic with Mom Donnie as they're likely or the party's
nominee as opposed to say New Jersey with Mikey Cherrow
or Abigail Spanberger in Virginia. So I wouldn't really take
(21:09):
too much stock in the party brand. These things are
really going to be defined by the individual candidates themselves,
and that helps. Let me say that actually helps Jack
Chenarelli because he doesn't want to get tied to the
negativity in New Jersey, at least that surrounds Donald Trump.
He wants to say I'm my own guy, and in
(21:31):
a lot of ways, I think that this kind of
dynamic should help him.
Speaker 2 (21:34):
Although he's not hiding from Donald Trump. I've listened to
on the campaign trail and he always says how proud
he is to have the endorsement of Donald Trump. So
that's why I'm interested in this. I guess the big
question is will he ask Donald Trump or Kenny Deny
Donald Trump to campaign for him.
Speaker 5 (21:55):
It's unclear. You know. Look, the fact is in May,
Donald Trump had an approval rating in New Jersey that
was about forty seven percent. But the polls that you
were talking about, the FDU pull dropped him down to
about thirty seven percent. So we'll see where the economy
is in October. We'll see, you know, on how things
(22:16):
are doing. If these tariffs don't have any negative impact
on the economy, then you know, maybe it's good to
bring in Donald Trump. If he's up around forty seven percent,
it could certainly motivate the base. But the endorsements out there,
everyone's gonna know about it. I think, you know, Jack
(22:36):
Shouldarelly won't necessarily need Donald Trump to motivate Republicans. They're
talking of eight years of a democratic governor. They feel
good about how they did in twenty twenty four year
in New Jersey, and I think you know, you're not
gonna need Donald Trump to kind of energize people. That
the Republicans in New Jersey are gonna be plenty of
(22:57):
energized already.
Speaker 2 (22:58):
Well, Okay, then so you were the jack should really
campaign and you get a call from the Trump people,
you get a call from the White House that Donald
Trump would like to help out, he'd like to come
in and hold a rally. How do you say no
to that?
Speaker 5 (23:10):
You don't. He's the leader of your party, he's the
president of the United States. You're gonna need his help,
god willing if you win, So you don't say no.
If the man wants to come, then he comes.
Speaker 2 (23:23):
So even if you think it hurts you, even if
if you think it hurts your candidate or could hurt
your candidate, you have to say yes at that time.
Speaker 5 (23:30):
But like you pointed out, Larry, and you know, it
was very a two point. I mean that he's endorsed
by Donald Trump. Uh, he's not running away from the endorsement.
So what's the big deal if you get a fresh picture.
I mean, if this is what it is, you're tied
uh to Donald Trump's fortunes and political fortunes, and so
(23:55):
I mean everybody's going to know it if there's a
rally in because the present wants to be here than
great and then you have it. It's not like we're
telling anybody something new world is going to know that.
He got that. Donald Trump indorsed Jack generally.
Speaker 2 (24:10):
Doctor Benja Workin, director of the Rowan University Institute for
Public Policy and Citizenship. Up next, how about this, Your
next fast food order may be done by a bot
wor Tech host Rich de Muro explains. Next.
Speaker 1 (24:27):
Back now to the WR Saturday Morning Show with Larry Minty.
Speaker 2 (24:33):
Welcome back. You know what, I absolutely love this idea
children's shoes with an air tag built in. Let's hear
more about that and how to order fast food with
AI from Rich de Muro, host of rich on Tech,
heard right here on woar Rich, Good morning to you.
I want to jump right to your experience at an
(24:54):
AI drive through. Tell us how it works and how
your experience went.
Speaker 6 (24:59):
Hey, good morning to Larry. Yeah, I mean we knew
this was going to happen. AI has been impacting just
about every aspect of our lives, and companies of course
are really interested in this technology for the efficiency that
it brings to their jobs. And I visited a drive
through that when you pull up, you hear a voice
and it is not a human, it is an AI
(25:20):
voice and it actually took my order really well you
can hear it. It was clear, it was polite. It
even upsold me. And that's really what these companies like
about this AI drive through is that it upsells people
like wild So when you go to the drive through,
they may say, do you want fries with that? This
one knows the entire menu inside and out, including all
(25:42):
the combos, all the coupons, promotions, and so it will
try to upsell you at every turn. The only thing
I didn't like about it it wasn't as playful as
I would have imagined. You know, you would think AI
would be fun. It wasn't. It was all business, which
I thought. You know, it did the job, but I
would like a little bit more playful nature.
Speaker 2 (26:00):
And they can do that, you know, you just kind
of tell them and they can make the AI be
whatever you want. And so that's really interesting. So now
if that happens, I'm going to give you the credit.
Rich Bitchat. This is really fascinating. So it's it's sort
of like social media but talking to people nearby.
Speaker 6 (26:19):
Yeah, I think this is fascinating. I think this could
be one of the biggest stories of the next year
if it takes off. Jack Dorsey one of the co
founders of Twitter came up with this new app called Bitchat.
It's available now on iPhone. You can get it on Android,
but you have to do what's called side loading, so
it's a little tough to do for the average person.
If you're not familiar with that process, just wait. But
(26:42):
it uses Bluetooth only, so there's no servers, there's no account,
there's no login, no data collection. Everything is relayed peer
to peer via nearby phone, so it creates a mesh
network with Bluetooth, so you can have your phone in
airplane mode and still chat with people around you. The
way I see this is that it creates a chat
(27:02):
room anywhere you are in the world. So if you're
in a restaurant you want to chat about the service
with other people sitting there, you can do that. If
you're on an airplane you want to chat with the
other passengers, you can do that. You're at a ballgame,
you want to chat about the ballgame, you can do that.
This is really powerful and it's different than using Wi
Fi or cellular because it can also be used in
disaster situations where those guys don't work. I have a
(27:26):
feeling Larry Kids in the classroom are going to use
this to get around all the blocks on the network
with chatting apps. So again, it's called Bitchat. It's available
now on the iPhone and coming soon to Android.
Speaker 2 (27:38):
Yeah, I'm going to try to get that immediately. That's wonderful.
I'll tell you what. I'm a huge air tag fan.
I have air tags just about on everything because I
lose stuff so much. But this new idea by Sketchers
is wonderful and they're going to sell a lot of
shoes because of this.
Speaker 5 (27:56):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (27:56):
And I think people have been doing this on their
own using Littles and you know, adapters and things they
get off of Amazon. But now Sketchers has kids shoes
that have a hidden compartment in the soul where you
can place an Apple air tag. And I think you
even need a screwdriver to unscrew it so that no
one can just pop this thing out easily. But you
(28:18):
put the air tag in there, obviously, you know how
the air tags work. You can find the location of
the shoes. And keep in mind some people are still
a little bit confused about the way air tags work.
They are not GPS. They don't have a GPS or
cellular connection built in. They use Bluetooth and they basically
ping the iPhones or the Apple devices in the area
that are connected to the Internet to sort of relay
(28:41):
their location. And so basically this is not exact. You know,
if your kid went missing, you might not be able
to find them per se, but I think there's so
many iPhones out there that you'd be able to locate them.
This is not a collaboration with Apple. This is just
sketchers sort of thinking outside the box. Prices start at
fifty two for these sneakers and the alternative if you
(29:03):
don't want to, you know, if you want to just
add this to the sneakers you already have. There's a
device from it's called tagamoles and this is from another
company that just makes those. You can search them on Amazon,
but you can attach those to any shoes basically.
Speaker 2 (29:17):
So is it just for children now or do they
have them for adults?
Speaker 6 (29:20):
This is just for children, but I have a feeling
I already got a couple of emails from people saying
they should make these for everyone, and it makes sense.
But I think if you go on Amazon and you
search sort of like air tag holder for sneakers, or shoes,
you can find them. It's not gonna be as slick
because it's not built in, and obviously you could take
those off versus this is sort of like in the
sole of the shoe, which makes a lot more sense.
(29:42):
But look, people love to use air tags. Like you said, Larry,
I've got one on just about just about everything I own.
There's even a Nintendo switch case that came out recently
that's got a little slip in area for an air tag.
So people love these things because they're just inexpensive and
they keep track of your stuff.
Speaker 7 (30:00):
My son has a case for his AirPods that have
place for the air tag.
Speaker 6 (30:05):
Yeah, and would you love to have technology for your
kids built in on them?
Speaker 2 (30:10):
Yes?
Speaker 6 (30:11):
Well, I don't know if I'm going to get anything.
Speaker 7 (30:13):
On my twenty and twenty three year olds right now,
but when they were little it would have been pretty nice.
Speaker 2 (30:19):
I have eighteen and twenty one, and I'd rather I'd
love to give it to them and have them not
know it's there, so I can track where they are
at all times real quick. Because this is important. There's
an iPhone and computer virus scam people need to know about.
Speaker 6 (30:35):
Yeah, I mean, these are not new. They've been going
around forever, but I keep getting emails from people about them.
So basically, if your iPhone gets one of those pop
ups that says viruses detected, install this software. Do not
install the software. It is completely fake on the iPhone,
just force closed Safari and then go into your settings
app Safari and clear your history from today and yesterday.
(30:57):
If you're on Windows and you get one of these
big screens that says you have a virus on your computer,
we are shutting down your Facebook account. We're making your
computers you can't use it until you take action. Remember
this combination of keyboard strokes. Hold down at all to
F four on Windows. All F four will close out
your browser instantly and that will go away. If you
(31:19):
can't do that, just press and hold the power button
on your computer until your screen goes dark. They want
you to call the number on your screen. That's when
the scammers get access to you. Do not do that.
Speaker 2 (31:30):
Rich DeMuro, host of rich on Tech. You can hear
a show tomorrow night from eight to eleven on WOR
that wraps up Saturday morning for this week. Thanks so
much for listening, and thanks to producers. Natalie Vaka and
Peter Airolano for putting this show together every week. I'll
be back Monday morning from six to ten for Menti
(31:51):
in the Morning. Hope you join us. This has been
a podcast from WR
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