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Speaker 1 (00:00):
This is a podcast from WOR Now, the WOR Saturday
Morning Show.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
Here's Larry Minty, Hello and welcome to Saturday Morning. Coming
up on today's show, does Republican candidate for Mayor, Curtis
Leewa have a chance of becoming the next mayor of
New York now that Mayor Adams has dropped out? We'll
ask him, and we try to help former wr News
director Joe Bartlett, who has turned on Donald Trump for
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some reason. So how is the new Bruce Springsteen movie.
New York Post entertainment critic Johnny Oleazinski has seen it,
and we'll ask him, and futurist reporter Kevin Sirilli has
fascinating details on how devices made for space exploration are
helping us right here on Earth. But let's start with
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Republican candidate for Mayor of New York, Curtis Leewa. Curtis,
this is a good day for you, isn't it?
Speaker 3 (00:56):
Oh?
Speaker 4 (00:57):
Absolutely? Okay? One out, two more to go. And we
knew that Eric Adams was won and done it. He
was playing Monty Hall. Let's make a deal, And finally
Bob Barker announced that the price was right for him.
Yesterday to drop out back. I'm sitting right here on
a park bench on sixty thirty fifth checking my messages,
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and I'm learning all the billionaires who live here. You
can't bribe me. Thirty six days to go. Let the
people decide who's going to be the mayor.
Speaker 2 (01:30):
Let me play something for you. This is a talkback
we got when people started getting the news.
Speaker 5 (01:35):
I am so elated that Eric Adams finally came to
his senses and dropped out of this race. Now we
need to consolidate against sorn Mndami. We need Andrew Cmo
to do the same thing. Drop out of this race.
Put your ego aside. We can't let Mandami win this race.
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We need Curtis Leeva And I'm a Democrat and I
am pulling for Curtis Leewall.
Speaker 2 (02:04):
He could save New York. Want to react to that absolutely.
Speaker 4 (02:07):
Remember Crmo had his shot forty points ahead Democratic primary,
mailed it in from the Hamptons with his billionaire supporters,
got crowns, and he's not even out in the streets. Larry,
I mean, thirty six days left. You gotta be going
twenty hours a day, and that's exactly what I do.
And now that Eric Adams is out, there's only one
law in order Kennedy, touch me because Andrew Crmo and
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Joran Mondomi share the same values. They're for no cash bail,
they're for raisey age and we just had a report
that juvenile crime has never been higher. They both want
to close Rkers Island. They both support cop killers. In fact,
it was Andrew Cormo's parole board that released forty six
cop killers in just eight years, and of course Johan.
Speaker 2 (02:51):
Mondomi cheered that on. So if I'm the only law.
Speaker 4 (02:54):
In order Kennedy who wants to hire seven thousand cops,
get the cops actually patrolling on the moving subway cars,
bring back the homeless unit of the NYPD they used
to handle the emotionally disturbed and the homeless, and more importantly,
deal with quality of life issiers. I'm the only one
who can do that. Clombo can't do that. He caused
this crisis with no cash fail.
Speaker 2 (03:15):
Well, here's the thing, So it's not just the callers,
it's not just the talkback because they're probably mostly conservative
except that one gentleman that I just played, and they're
probably mostly Republican. Natalie Migliori went out and did her
beat on the street, and she talked to New Yorkers.
There were several New Yorkers who said the same thing.
They said that now that Eric Adams has dropped out,
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they're looking more seriously at Curtis Sliwa because they believe
crime is the number one issue and they believe that
you can tackle crime in the city. You are you
getting the same reaction on the streets?
Speaker 3 (03:53):
Oh?
Speaker 4 (03:53):
Absolutely yes. Today the Third Avenue Festival, I was there
for five hours and that's all.
Speaker 2 (03:58):
People were saying.
Speaker 4 (03:59):
I remember that area Bay Ridge has now split fifty
to fifty. There are a lot of Zorin Easters there.
Now it's not an all read area, it's a purple area.
So I'd love to go to the Zoron areas where
he beat Cuomo convincingly in the primary and do my
campaigning because that's where you get a lot of feedback.
And I think even some of the Zorin Easters supporters
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the Zoran realized when it comes to crime, boy, that's
his achilles heel. Every time he's asked the question, like
the New York Times said, You're gonna apologize to the
cops for calling them racists? And homophobes. He said, I
would hasn't done it since, and yet every day he's
protected by armed NYPD police officers. That is his vulnerability,
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that's his achilles heel. Cuomo cannot go at him on
those issues on the debate stage because he's just as.
Speaker 2 (04:48):
Culpable and guilty.
Speaker 4 (04:49):
Only I can go at it, and I'm going to
go at that two headed hydra of Cuomo and Zorhan Mandami.
If not for Eric Adams, they wouldn't have been a
Zoran Mandami. If not for Cuomo's no cash bail, it
would be It would be a safe for New York
State and safe for New York City.
Speaker 2 (05:06):
I'll tell you what. We also got to talk back
saying that Steven A. Smith was on Good Morning America
this morning calling for you to drop out of the race.
Is there any shot of that at happening at all?
Speaker 4 (05:15):
Hey, Stephen A. Smith is afraid to have me on
his show. You know he's a Cuomo sexual, totally tied
into Cuomo. Why doesn't he have me on his show?
To Stephen A. Smith should stick to sports, you know
nothing about the politics, stick with ESPN, or invite Curtis
Sliwa into the bullpen and watch me just run circles around.
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Stephen A.
Speaker 6 (05:40):
Smith.
Speaker 2 (05:41):
I was going to ask you about preparing for debates,
but your whole life has been about preparing for debates.
It is going to be interesting, It's going to be important,
probably more important now than it has ever been. What
do you expect it sounds to me. It seems to
me that Cuomo and Mom Donnie are going to go
after each other. Are you going to go after both
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of them or just Mom Donnie.
Speaker 4 (06:04):
Well, to be honest with you, Larry, if they do that,
if they get to be like kids in a schoolyard,
I take the high road. I talk about who I
am and what I've done and what my policies will
be that are totally different than both of them. Remember
they're the Democrats. They've led to this catastrophe. The Democrats
let the Socialists in and the Socialists took over the
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party without even a fight. And Andrew Como was the
governor when he allowed that to occur. Eric Adams was
so corrupt that he should have been in jail with Obviously,
Bobby Menendez, Go Bob Menendez. And you say to yourself, Larry,
if you want to blame anybody for this catastrophe. Blame
the Democratic Party. I represent patriotism. I represent making sure
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that the kids get an education. With a forty one
billion dollar bloated budget, where two thirds of the fourth
gradest can't even read, write, or do arithmetic and grade level.
This has got to stop, Larry. Democrats had their chance.
They destroy the state, They're apt to destroy the city,
and I'm the only thing stopping them from doing that.
Speaker 2 (07:08):
Well, I can tell your pump do You're more excited
than you have been in a long time. And I
know that our listeners are pumped as well. They'd love
to help. How can they help?
Speaker 4 (07:17):
All they need to do is go to sliwa for
NYC dot com that sliwa f o r NYC dot com.
I promise all your faithful listeners, I will never ever
uh and uh dropping out the fact of the words
of the Great John Paul Jones, father of our US Navy.
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On this date, thirty six days out thirty six nights, Larry,
I have just begun to fight fight fight fight.
Speaker 2 (07:46):
Ah yeah, quoted Donald Trump there at the end, too.
Nice job, Curtis Leewa, the now re energize Curtis leewa
Republican candidate for New York City mayor. Good luck, Curtis.
I hope to talk to you again soon.
Speaker 4 (08:00):
Yeah, I'm looking for the billionaires. What kind of bribe me?
Speaker 2 (08:06):
Curtis lee We, Republican candidate for a New York City mayor.
Up next, former WR news director Joe Bartlett, who is
now retired in South Carolina and somehow got inflicted with
Trump derangement syndrome. Down there, Joe's up next.
Speaker 1 (08:24):
Here again is Larry Minty with the WR Saturday Morning Show.
Speaker 2 (08:29):
Joe Bartlett, former WR news director, used to host this show.
Now he's retired and living in South Carolina, and somehow
he left a blue state and became anti Trump in
a red state. Here's Joe, Joe Bartlett, how's retirement going.
Speaker 3 (08:46):
Uh? Couldn't be better? And I should have done it sooner,
but you know, you bill boarded me as as more
Trump hate, and I don't think. I don't want I
don't like the hate. But anyway, I saw this headline
the other day. It was interesting. I was reading the
stories and it talked about one battle after another, and
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I said, oh gosh, that's got to be a story
about Trump. Presidency.
Speaker 2 (09:14):
He's infected. He just can't let it go. He sees
the title of a movie and it's bad, and he thinks, oh,
that's got to be about Donald Trump.
Speaker 3 (09:22):
What happened to you? Well, you know, it turned into
it was. Yes, it was a movie with Leonardo DiCaprio,
and I said, well, I said, I gotta go see this. Anyway.
It's a very interesting movie. I don't think you'll like it,
but it's it shows the dangers of extremism on both
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the left and the right and what can happen. But
the premise here is it shows the government crackdown on
migrants being used as a NAIs to create an authoritarian
state in the United States. This is not it really
is not Trump bashing because this was written. This is
a story that was written long ago, I guess during
the Reagan presidency. So this has nothing to do with
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Donald Trump. It's going to be used for Trump bashing perhaps,
but when you see it, you basically you feel sorry
for both combatants, both the left and the right. It's
a very well done movie, tremendous acting, but it's probably
going to get caught up in this political mailstrem that
we have to deal with.
Speaker 2 (10:23):
Well, of course it's going to get caught up. And
the reason it got a green light is because of
Donald Trump. If it was may, if it was written
during the Reagan administration, and they couldn't get it made,
why do you think it's being made right now? That's
that's the reason. Although I'm looking as you're talking. I
looked on Rotten Tomatoes. Ninety six percent of the reviews
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are positive and eighty five percent eighty five percent of
the people that went to see it also gave it
a positive writing. So it sounds like the movies. The
movie itself is great, even if you don't like what
it's about.
Speaker 3 (10:56):
Well, I think you can feel both sides, both the
people who are protesting against what the government's doing and
for the people that have to do what the government
wants him to do. It's just a great movie. Make
your own decision. But anyway, on this hatred thing, I
was watching the Charlie Kirk funeral, and I saw that
moment when Erica Kirk spoke and true to her Christian faith,
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she forgave her husband's killer right. Powerful moment, wasn't it.
Speaker 2 (11:25):
Yes?
Speaker 3 (11:26):
Absolutely, Trump though spoiled it when he you know, there
was a moment there where, you know what, maybe we
can calm down, Maybe we don't have to hate each other,
maybe we don't have to keep shooting at other and
kill people that we disagree with. But then Trump comes
along and says, sorry, Erica, I hate my opponent. Larry,
tell me what you thought of that.
Speaker 2 (11:47):
I thought he was making a confession at the time.
I thought it was not him. I do I think
that he said no. I think he was being honest,
and he was saying, no, I hate my opponents, and
and it was it was as You're right, it was
an odd moment. I don't think that's why he ruined it.
I agree with you that he should have gone before Erica.
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He should have gone before her and then come out
and given her a big hug and stood there they
goudad the fireworks go off, and then it could have
had a really big moment at the end with the
two of them on stage together. I thought that that
was programmed poorly, but I didn't take exactly what you
took away from it. I thought that he was being honest,
and it was almost as if he was saying, I'm sorry,
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I can't feel the way you do I can't forgive
and I think it was honest. I thought it was truthful,
but you took it as of course being something horrible.
Speaker 3 (12:40):
Well, if it's an apology, if he you know, that's
followed up by the indictment of Komy, and you know
this targeting of Letitia James and everybody that caused him harm.
That's not good. That's not that's not forgiveness. Hold on,
that's not the country. Move on.
Speaker 2 (12:58):
Let's separate Komy from all that from anybody else that
you're talking about. What Komi did was he lied? Yeah,
he lied. He lied to make this happen. He was
one of the ring leaders of a coup against this country.
And so for I don't care what happens to him.
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There's no forgiveness for him. If this is how you
get him, this is how you get him. I made
the analogy the other day. It's like when they went
after Capone with tax evasion. I don't care how you
get him, get him, because he deserves to be punished.
Speaker 3 (13:34):
I think again, I'm going back to the hate thing,
and you say I hate Trump, but I really don't
hate Trump. And I didn't turn on him. I think
he turned on me. We're just living in this period
of hate and Trump is not helping. You know, we've
had five mass shootings here, what in the last day
or two. Well, no, it's not Look, it's not Trump.
Speaker 2 (13:55):
In the same sentence I've met, sure, I.
Speaker 3 (13:57):
Am saying he is not hill being to calm things
because what happened, what's happening with him is when you
did if he disagreed, If you disagree with him, you
are an enemy, you're an opponent, you're an extremist. That
kind of language is not helpful. I mean, it's not
helpful when the president says I hate my opponents, I
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want to destroy my opponents, and it's not getting us
to a better place. It's dividing us. We can't even
have a golf tournament without this hatred coming through.
Speaker 2 (14:31):
I will point out that you just said I'm not
blaming Trump, and then you blame Trump.
Speaker 3 (14:36):
Well, look, in terms of blame, he's the president of
the United States. He is the person who should be
trying to keep this country together, not do these things
that just create a bigger divide.
Speaker 2 (14:52):
Every single president, even though they're not honest about it,
does the exact same thing. You don't think when Biden
and his Justice Department went after Donald Trump, that wasn't
causing division. You don't think that was awful just because
he said it nicely. I think I think at least
he's being honest with HOWE feels.
Speaker 3 (15:12):
Well. I don't think we're going to a better spot
with this.
Speaker 2 (15:15):
Well, it seems like the country's better off. Let's uh,
we'll talk about continue the conversation next week. Always appreciated
that was a that was fun. I get to I
get the tangle with somebody. That's really fun.
Speaker 3 (15:26):
Thanks.
Speaker 2 (15:26):
Listening that movie, Larry, I will no, it sounds like
it's really good. Former wo R News director Joe Bartlett.
Is there alien life out there? And if so, what
can we learn from them? Futurist reporter Kevin Sirelli talks
about that. Are AI actors in Hollywood movies inevitable? We'll
ask New York Posts Johnny Olegzinski coming up on Saturday Morning.
Speaker 1 (15:50):
Now, more of the wo R Saturday Morning Show and
Larry Minte welcome back.
Speaker 2 (15:56):
The US government now calls UFOs UAPs, So why the change?
Well for that, we go to futurist reporter Kevin Sirilli.
He's now host of iHeartMedia's new daily podcast, Hello Future
with Kevin Sirelli. A new podcast is designed to make big,
forward looking topics fast, smart, and accessible to mainstream audiences.
(16:21):
You mean, so I'll even understand what you're talking about.
Speaker 6 (16:25):
Yeah, well, thank you Larry for that. That's the goal.
That's the goal. But it's been so much fun. We've
just done our first week and everyone, thank you to
iHeart and everyone. It's been so much fun working with
iHeart and you know, we tackle really big issues like
colonizing Mars, going to the mood, but also why you
should care about it. One of my favorite episodes this
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week was with the CEO. He's thirty seven years old
of this startup company that creates civilization starter kits, and
what it is is a data center in a box.
And he's explaining to me that and I'm sitting there like,
I don't even know how to do this interview. This
is so complicated. He's one of those geniuses and he's
telling me that he's putting this. They can put them
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on Mars or the Moon and immediately it'll create electricity
and water, and it could it could self replicate like
in transformers to allow for when the robots come and
then eventually humans. And I'm thinking, Okay, that's really cool,
but why should I care about this on planet Earth?
And he goes, well, don't you think that that could
be useful in rural parts of America where they don't
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have access to basic technology infrastructure. Don't you think that
after a hurricane, when the power grid gets wiped out,
that if we put one of these train sized boxes
in a disaster zone, that that could get communications back
on system. Don't you think that in parts of Africa
and underserved communities around the world that this could bring
basic not just technology, but also sewage systems and economic
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incentive to these parts of the world. And I'm like, yeah, no,
that's not a bad idea. That the way that we
should do.
Speaker 2 (18:02):
Yeah, in third world countries. I can see them going
into Africa or down into South America and bringing this.
Is this available what he's talking about? Is it available now?
Speaker 6 (18:12):
Yeah, they're already testing it. And that's the whole point
of the show. And then the coolest part of the interview.
I don't know if you've ever seen Larry the Martian
or read the book by Andy wer Sure, it's so
good it's it's not as good as Interstellar, which I
know is a debate in the sci fi community, but
I'm an Interstellar geek. But with Matthew McConaughey. But in
The Martian, Matt Damon essentially poops and grows a plant
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on Mars and I asked him, well, how are you
gonna power this? And he goes poop and I go,
I'm sorry, what and he's like yeah, He's like, well,
we don't. It's not you can have a battery on
Mars or you know, in other parts of the world.
But that's how they're thinking. It's science fiction come to life,
and it's crazy. It's a crazy world we live in.
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But hey, at least they're thinking about that. Probably they
could get a budget deal in Washington's.
Speaker 2 (18:57):
I'll tell You why poop is an untapped natural reason
or as we found out in The Martian. That was
a That was a great story. But man, what a
what a brilliant podcast. And you're talking to the smartest
people in the country about what's coming next, which explains
why you're a futurist reporter. I kind of get it. Now,
let's talk about so much fun. I can imagine that good.
(19:20):
Good for you, and congratulations. I hate that they changed
UFO to UAP. Can you explain to me why they
did that exactly?
Speaker 6 (19:31):
Yeah, So a UFO is an unidentified flying object obviously,
but a UAP essentially is an unidentified aerial phenomenon. And
the reason is because technology it also doesn't necessarily have
to be flying. It could be you know, in the
ocean and whatnot. It just kind of broadens the category,
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so to speak. But there's been there's been a hearing
on Capitol Hill. There's been several and the most recent one,
which is couple of weeks ago. And you know, the
big question that I get about UAPs and UFOs is
why is the government you know, keeping it a secret
from us and whatnot? And there's many ways to answer
this question. But the first is it's not necessarily the
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Pentagon and CIA and NASA. It's not necessarily them that
they're covering it up. It also could be that private
industry or private companies have access to this technology and
they're not required to share it with anyone necessarily. So
the laws are very outdated and not thinking as big
as the universe is. Secondly, if there is alien technology
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that is discovered, the government wouldn't necessarily want to declassify
it if they don't have their arms around it before
a bad actor does, like the Chinese Communist Party, Russia
or Iran. And then lastly, they might not know what
it is. And so I think the biggest question right
now is just we are living through what I believe, Larry,
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is the start of the next industrial revolution, the Galileo
and I interview the head of the Galileo Project from Harvard,
whose whole mission is to look for extraterrestrial lights in
the universe. But the Galileo discoveries of you know, centuries ago,
our telescopes are finding them, you know, by the tenfold,
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and so, you know, I think that policymakers don't really
even know where to begin asking questions about any of this.
And that's why I think it's been so stale, quite frankly,
in this debate. The space industry alone is not just
massa anymore. It's going to be a one trillion dollar industry,
one trillion dollars by the year twenty thirty two, which
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is larger than the entire gaming industry in America.
Speaker 2 (21:46):
Do you believe that there is alien intelligence and do
you believe that alien intelligence has visited us?
Speaker 6 (21:53):
It's the question is is yes? The answer is yes.
But that's the boat to both questions. Do I believe
that they've visited us? That I don't have enough proof of.
But in terms of but in terms of do I
believe in life elsewhere in the galaxy or in other dimensions? Absolutely?
And I by the way, it's not just if there's one,
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you know, I interviewed Leonard David who is. He's like
the Walter cron kind of space News. He's awesome, he's
been covering space for fifty years. He goes, the better question, Kevin,
is how many civilizations are there in the universe? How
many are there? Because they could be all at different stages.
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You could have cavemen on one planet, and then you
know civilizations that are, you know, thousands of years ahead
of us. So it's a really complicated question. But the
bottom line is they just found proof of potential biosignatures
of life on Mars. A lot of people think the
Solar System is only nine planets in a couple of moons.
There's more than there's millions of objects in our Solar
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system alone. We only have less than a dozen satellites
around the movie. We have ten thousand round planet Earth,
and we only have like eight or twelve around Mars
and like one around Europa. So there's so much we
don't know about our own place in our solar system,
let alone in the galaxy, let alone in the universe.
Speaker 2 (23:17):
Well, I can't wait to talk to you next week.
I'm definitely gonna listen to your podcast. You sold it
very well just now. Kevin Sirilli is the host of
Iheart's new daily podcast, Hello Future with Kevin Sirelli. That
new podcast is designed to make big, forward looking topics fast,
smart and accessible, like you just heard. Thanks a lot, Kevin.
(23:38):
Talk to you again next week.
Speaker 6 (23:39):
Thank you, Larry, Thank you my friend.
Speaker 2 (23:41):
Coming up next on Saturday morning, what is the latest
on the Keith Urban and Nicole Kidman breakup? We'll ask
New York Post entertainment critic Johnny Olegzinski. That's coming up
on Saturday morning.
Speaker 1 (23:54):
Here's Larry Minti with more of the WOOR Saturday Morning Show.
Speaker 2 (23:59):
Welcome Back. Reviews are now coming out on new Bruce
Springsteen movie. New York Post entertainment critic Johnny Oleazinski has
seen it so what did he think? Here's the answer.
I'm almost afraid to ask you. I want the Bruce
Springsteen movie to be good so much, I'm afraid to
ask you what you thought of it?
Speaker 3 (24:19):
It is good?
Speaker 2 (24:20):
Oh good, it is good.
Speaker 7 (24:21):
I saw. I was at the New York Film Festival
premiere the other night. Bruce was there. Jeremy Allen White,
who plays and was there. Bruce did an impromptu performance
at the end, which.
Speaker 2 (24:30):
Was pretty cool. I love Bruce. What did he say?
Speaker 7 (24:32):
He's saying promised land Wow. So it was very very cool.
And in my review I get so. I gave it
three stars, and there was a lot of comparing it
to a complete unknown, the Bob Dylan movie, which I
also I love that ever slow slightly more. This was
three stars. That was three and a half. Bruce, I
think is harder because the image of Bruce is so
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much in our brains, especially young Bruce, because he was
plastered all over his albums, whereas Timothy Shallow they had
some creative leeway with Bob Dylan. I think the other thing,
and plenty of listeners might disagree with this. I think
Bruce in his twenties and thirties had the most extraordinary voice.
And some people don't think Bruce is a great singer.
I think he is a fantastic singer. Jeremy Allen White,
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it gives it from the Bear, gives a great acting performance,
really moving because this is about Bruce's struggles with depression
and his memories of his dad while writing Nebraska. The
movie is all about him almost breaking down while writing Nebraska.
He Jeremial the Bear not a singer. Oh no, no, no,
no no. And he did his own singing like like him.
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Because now if you want to win the Oscar, if
you want to get there, you have to do your
own singing. You have to do all those interviews with
us say oh how long did you practice? And oh
you know this is bad. It's not atrocious. But when
Bruce does a growl, it's exciting. When jeremyl and White
does a growl, you go, you know, do you want
me to get you a cough drop? It just sounds
like his vocal cores are having a rough time. But
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I do like he is good. The movie is good,
especially for Springsteen fans like me.
Speaker 2 (26:04):
You'll like it. Do they limit the singing? How could they?
Speaker 7 (26:07):
Isn't it isn't like the Bohemian Rhapsody sort of movie
where it's all these concerts. It's really more about his
emotional experiences. And it's by the way, it's not like
it Bruce was born and all the way to present day.
It's just about nineteen eighty two.
Speaker 2 (26:19):
We'll have to bring up Nicole Kidman and Keith Urban
next time, unless you have a quick comment.
Speaker 7 (26:25):
I read that Nicole Kidman partly split apart because she's
been doing so many sex scenes recently. Really, she's been
doing sexings forever. She's been stripping since the beginning of
her career.
Speaker 2 (26:36):
AI certainly is causing a ruckus out in Hollywood right
now because Tillie Norwood is not non existent. She is
completely AI. But you she could fool anybody. I mean,
when you look at her real and she has a reel,
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she looks like a human being. And I'm sure that
Hollywood has to be freaked out about this.
Speaker 7 (27:01):
Well they are, and they can't stop talking about it.
It brings back memories of the strike and when they
you know, the sag after strike, when they were freaking
out over being replaced by AI. That was a big
reason for that strike. And now now this woman that's
created Tilly Norwood, what a name? The woman who created
Tilly is saying, Oh, everyone's racing to sign Tilly, And
(27:23):
I don't fully believe that. There's a lot of open
questions about who this person is. She says she was
an actress that wanted to create an actress, or it's
her art project or whatever. But yeah, it spooked a
lot of people. I still until we really see these
things in action, like let's do a whole awful Lord
of the Rings movie starring Tilly Norwood and her AI friends,
(27:46):
and you know, they start kind of you know, that
uncanny valley thing where you can just slightly tell they're
not real, or we won't know, or or will say, wow,
that's the best actress I've ever seen. Then then we'll
know if what the real threat of this is. But
for now, I look at uh do you ever read?
Sometimes cheap websites will do articles that are clearly written
(28:08):
in AI, and they're riddled with factual errors and the
sentences are a little off. I don't think the technology
is there yet.
Speaker 2 (28:15):
Well, it looks pretty good. I mean it's a short
real it looks pretty good. And if something goes wrong.
You can always fix it. I mean, you know, doing
retakes is free. But I can't imagine the ramifications of that. Look,
she's going to get apart, there's no question in my mind,
because everybody's going to see it. Everybody's going to go
watch it. And so I just think that Hollywood would
(28:39):
love this, the people that run Hollywood, not the people
that have the jobs, the people that run Hollywood. To
be able to have actors and actresses they can control,
that's a dream come true.
Speaker 7 (28:49):
Hollywood loves not spending money. That's one of their favorite
things to do, or money extremely unwisely. Where you see
a three hundred million dollar movie and it looks like,
you know, a buck fifty, you're probably right. And I
don't know how SAGAFTRA could convince what they could put
in a contract to say you can't do this right now,
it's in their contract. I believe you can't replicate Brad
(29:09):
Pitt without asking for his consent and compensating him fairly.
And of course obviously that is what they should do,
but they've sort of suggested bargain it. If you use
an AI actor, then you have to pay, you know,
have this many live actors I think it's a whole
giant mess.
Speaker 2 (29:26):
Speaking of giant messes, how did you like Keanu Reeves
Waiting for Goodou?
Speaker 7 (29:30):
That a very good segue, incredible taking the words right
out of my mouth. Oh oh so he and look
I like I like the John Wick movies. I like
the Bill and Ted movies. I like half have one
of one quarter of the Matrix movies. So I like
Keanu Reeves, like what he can do on camera. Uh,
(29:53):
Beckett is not john Wick. John Wick barely talks and
that and that is very well suited to Keanu Reeves speaking, kicking,
karate chopping, glaring at the camera. That's great, but that's
a skill to make that interesting as a skill. Uh,
in Goodough is just so far out of his league. Weirdly,
(30:15):
you know who is better in Waiting for Goodough is
Alex Winter, who was his opposite in Bill and Ted.
I this is uh in Final Jeopardy. I don't know,
I really they're kind of they're like Beavis and butthead
I often forget which was which. But Alex Winter, who's
become a documentary filmmaker in recent years. Weirdly, he is
(30:39):
pretty good. He is good and maybe he is not
burdened by our expectations since we don't see him as well.
It's kind of oh, look at this discovery almost But
with Keanu Reeves, I just thought he it's it's like
watching someone you know that phrase when they said, oh,
I paid watch you read the phone book. The audience
paid to watch him read the phone book, and it
(31:01):
just was someone reading the phone k on a friend
six hundred and seventy dollars top ticket by oh man.
Speaker 2 (31:07):
That's ridiculous. Yeah, so I'm not gonna say it. I
don't care, no wonderful nor should you. Hey, look, by
the way, just you know Alex Winter was Bill.
Speaker 6 (31:16):
Oh, just so we all know now, because you know
everybody was going to be thinking about this all day.
Speaker 3 (31:21):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (31:22):
I was gonna eat away with me all day. Thank god,
Thank god you told me that. New York Post entertainment
critic Johnny Oleczinski. That wraps up Saturday Morning for this week.
Thanks so much for listening, and thanks to executive producer
Natalie Vaka and producer Peter Ayerlano for putting this show
together every week. I'll be back Monday morning from six
to ten for Mentee in the morning. Hope you join us.
Speaker 1 (31:44):
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