February 22, 2019 • 9 mins
Charlamagne awards Jussie Smollett of Empire "Donkey Of The Day" for lying about his hate crime!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
I love getting to talk with you on my show
every day, but when the camera stopped rolling, there's still
so much to say, so head over to the Doctor
Oz podcast to hear the rest of the conversation was
some of the biggest names in health, wellness and pop culture.
Just like my show, I should lay on the most
debated questions in medicine and share my curious conversations with
(00:22):
you in a way that you've never heard before. Listen
and follow on the I Heart Radio app or subscribe
wherever you listen to podcasts. It's time for Donkey other Day.
I'm a Democrat, so being Donkey of the Day is
a little bit of a mixed so like a don't
(00:43):
other day. Now. I've been called a lot of my
twenty three years, but Donkey of the Day is a
new wife. Yes, Donkey Today for Thursday February called to
Jesse Smillt a k agmall line from Empire, but now
forever known it is Jesse lyons See. Jamal Lion is
(01:04):
a character. Jesse Smolett is the real person, and over
the past couple of weeks, a storyline that sounds like
something only Lee Daniels could create has found its way
into Jesse Spilett's real life, and because of that, he
is forever known is Jesse Lyon? Okay, not because on
Empire his last name is Lyon, but simply because we
have found out Jesse b Lyon. Okay, now full disclosure.
(01:24):
When I first heard about this situation, I'm talking first day,
when everyone was posting picture Jesse sending him up prayers.
I mean, it was people that were ready to fly
to Chicago to go to war for Jesse Lyon. I
was watching all of this and I heard the now
infamous story of him being attacked around two am and
those freeze in Chicago streets and two mentoring bleach on him,
calling him a Empire gay slur in word, throwing bleach
(01:48):
on him, and then throwing a rope around his neck.
From the beginning, I never believed this story. From the beginning,
this story sounded unbelievable, very sketchy. But I didn't feel
the need to call BS on this situation because of
my feelings. My intuition could be wrong, my instincts could
be off. And when you have an opinion about someone
else's business, when it's a serious situation like this, just
know we take what should be objective situations and make
(02:11):
them good, bad, wrong, unfair, essential, deserved, outrageous with our opinions.
That's why you have to be very intentional on what
you choose to have an opinion about. Okay, in this situation,
I gave him the benefit of the doubt because he's
a black man. And why wouldn't not believe a black
man who tells me he's been the victim of a
hate crime. Why wouldn't not believe a gay man who
tells me he's the victim of a hate crime? Well,
(02:32):
I didn't. And since I didn't believe and I had
no reason not to believe him, I did what is
very hard for us to do in this era. And
that's not half an opinion on this situation. Oh, we
live in this era where people choose feelings over facts.
We don't even wait for all the facts of the
matter to come out. We just grasp onto whatever reconfirms
our biases, whatever narratives we have about people, places, and things.
(02:54):
If we find situations that prove all points and we
pushed them, Okay, Jesse lion O, how we feel about homophobia.
He knows how we feel about racism. He knows how
we feel about Macca, and he played with our emotional
heart screens. Okay, this is why, even though it's very
hard a lot of times, all this noise we're here
on social media, is better to say nothing. Okay, I'm
(03:14):
speaking only for me in life. I have to focus
on the things in front of me that matter, are
more importantly that are in my control. Okay. Whether Jesse
Lion was lying and not was not a matter that
was in my control. And I wanted to wait until
all the facts came out so I can speak from
a place of facts and not feelings. And the facts
are Jesse Lyon are Jesse Smilette at authorities call him
is going to jail? Okay, it was all good just
(03:36):
a couple of weeks ago. A couple of weeks ago,
he was a potential martyr. Today he's a future fella
who's been charged with lying the cops. Let's go to
ABC seven Chicago for the report police. I think Jesse
Smilett should come clear because it's truth will set him free.
Bold words from the attorney of Abel and Ola Osandero brothers,
who spent hours talking to prosecutors in a grand jury.
(03:57):
They are the same man police say are in this
surveillance photo, and it's evidence, Jesse Smilette told Robin Roberts
shows his attackers. I don't have any doubt in my
mind that that's tonight. The Empire actor who told police
two mass men beat him yelling racial and homophobic slurs
in Chicago Streeterville neighborhood is now charged with his own
(04:20):
alleged crime, the Cook County States Attorney's Office saying Spilette
faces one felony count of disorderly conduct stemming from filing
a false police report. Spilette is expected in bondcourt tomorrow
afternoon at one thirty. Oh. He turned himself in this morning. Uh.
First of all, Chicago pet has shown improve and they
can solve a crime if they want to. Okay, all
(04:41):
the unsolved shootings that happened in Chicago, all the unsolved
murder that happened in Chicago that never gets solved. Chicago
p D figured this one out in a couple of weeks.
But let's stay focused on Jesse Lyon. Okay, Jesse I
told joined his radio since last week, you should have
shut up, okay, but you couldn't. And the reason you
couldn't is because you are. You are investing a lot
into the tention economy market. Okay, you hijack so many
(05:02):
people's attention with this FOSSi a story, and we all
know attention is the most addictive drug on the planet. Today,
instead of laying low, you decided to go to l
A to do a show. What you should have done
is just performed and shut the hell up. But instead
you read off note cards and told us what your
lawyer said. You can't say, let's hear. It's just a
couple of points that I wanted to make really quick.
I was bruised, but my ribs were not cracked, and
(05:25):
we're not broken. I went to the doctor immediately. Frank
Gatson drove me. I was not hospitalized. Both my doctors
in l A and Chicago clear me to perform, but
said to take care obviously, and above all, I fought back.
I just want to know why would a man who's
a victim's lawyer advised him not to talk. Why would
you get in trouble as the victim for talking about
your victimization. You know, why would a man be reading
(05:46):
off a note card to describe his victimization? You know
why he needed the note card, because when you tell
one lie, you have to tell a bunch of other
lives the back up your first lie. And when you
tell the truth, you don't have to remember what you said.
But when you lie, sometimes you forget. Now I know
the magic question everybody is asking is why, Okay, why
would he make something like this up? He told us
why on that stage. Listen. Yes, he wanted to be
(06:11):
the gay Tupac. Okay. Jesse Lyon wanted to be a martyr,
all right. He wanted to be a symbol of someone
who stood up against hate in America. He wanted the
same admiration that you see Kaepernick getting for taking a
need for black people. He wanted the attention that Meek
is getting for standing for the rights of those in prison.
Jesse Lyon wanted to be the gay Tupac. Okay, ambitions
(06:31):
of a writer would be a whole different song if
Tupac was gay. But let's stay on topic here, all right.
We all should have known jesse Lyon was lying when
he went on Good Morning America and was more upset
that people didn't believe him, rather than being upset about
the crime that allegedly happened to him. Let's hear it.
I'm piste off the attackers, attackers, but it's also the attacks.
(06:52):
You know. At first it was a thing of like, listen,
if I tell the truth, then that's it, because it's
the truth. Then it became a thing of like, oh,
how can you doubt that? How do you not believe
that it's the truth. And then it became a thing
of like, oh, it's not necessarily that you don't believe
that this is the truth. You don't even want to
see the truth. Okay, it wasn't the truth, Jesse. See
(07:14):
here's the thing. Racism is real, Homophobia Israel, hate crimes
really happened in this country every day. We knew this already.
You didn't know in any favors by pulling this stunt.
And don't try to act like you were doing something
for society, because you weren't. Alright, you were doing something
for personal gain. This was all very self serving. And yes,
you wanted to become a martyr, and you did. You
became a martyr for everything that's wrong with this country
and everything that's wrong with this era. People who are
(07:36):
willing to do any and everything for attention, don't think
about this too deep people. Okay, Jesse Lyon is a
cloud chaser, nothing more, nothing less. All Right, Black men
in this country have been imprisoned and killed for years
because of lies like this. Alright, you took a play
out of your oppressive playbook, sir. If the roles were
reversed and some white magnizupporters made up a lie like
this and it caused some black men to get incarcerated,
(07:57):
we will be rioting. We'd be asking the judge and
throw the book at them. We have to keep the
same energy with Jesse, because we can't become what we
claim to hate. Okay. In the words of Malcolm X,
I'm for truth, no matter who tells it. I'm for justice,
no matter who is for against period. Jesse, you cannot
become what you claim to hate. I know you were probably,
you know, trying to prove some point about racism and
homophobia in America. But you can't teach us what we
(08:19):
already know, sir. And you can't solve a problem using
the same energy that created the problem. Okay. I really
have nothing else more to say about this matter other
than and this attention economy people cashing on on experience
and some type of injustice, okay, But the difference is
the injustice that happened to Colin Kaepernick was real, all right.
(08:40):
The injustice that happened to mec Mill was real. Your
injustice was fake, alright. Jesse. You created a whole neighborhood
of make belief that doesn't make you the gay Tupac
and makes you the game. Mr Rogers. Oh, and best belief.
It's a man in the jail sell in Chicago right
now waiting for you to be his neighbor. April, please
(09:00):
let him Mark give Jesse lion a k A. Jesse
smlect the piggessy hall he ha, he ha. You're stupid, mother,
are you dumb? Piece of the planet? Charlemagne the god hand.
Today's donkey today is brought to you by the law
office of Michael s Lamon soft. Don't be a donkey
and called my friend Michael. If you've been hurting a
construction accident two on to nine six to ten twenty.
That's two on to nine, six to ten twenty. Don't
(09:22):
be a donkey, reach out and touch Michael right now.
I love getting to talk with you on my show
every day, but when the camera stopped rolling, there's still
so much to say, so head over to the Doctor
Oz podcast to hear the rest of the conversation was
some of the biggest names in health, wellness and pop culture.
Just like my show, I should lay on the most
debated questions in medicine and share my curious conversations with
(00:22):
you in a way that you've never heard before. Listen
and follow on the I Heart Radio app or subscribe
wherever you listen to podcasts. It's time for Donkey other Day.
I'm a Democrat, so being Donkey of the Day is
a little bit of a mixed so like a don't
(00:43):
other day. Now. I've been called a lot of my
twenty three years, but Donkey of the Day is a
new wife. Yes, Donkey Today for Thursday February called to
Jesse Smillt a k agmall line from Empire, but now
forever known it is Jesse lyons See. Jamal Lion is
(01:04):
a character. Jesse Smolett is the real person, and over
the past couple of weeks, a storyline that sounds like
something only Lee Daniels could create has found its way
into Jesse Spilett's real life, and because of that, he
is forever known is Jesse Lyon? Okay, not because on
Empire his last name is Lyon, but simply because we
have found out Jesse b Lyon. Okay, now full disclosure.
(01:24):
When I first heard about this situation, I'm talking first day,
when everyone was posting picture Jesse sending him up prayers.
I mean, it was people that were ready to fly
to Chicago to go to war for Jesse Lyon. I
was watching all of this and I heard the now
infamous story of him being attacked around two am and
those freeze in Chicago streets and two mentoring bleach on him,
calling him a Empire gay slur in word, throwing bleach
(01:48):
on him, and then throwing a rope around his neck.
From the beginning, I never believed this story. From the beginning,
this story sounded unbelievable, very sketchy. But I didn't feel
the need to call BS on this situation because of
my feelings. My intuition could be wrong, my instincts could
be off. And when you have an opinion about someone
else's business, when it's a serious situation like this, just
know we take what should be objective situations and make
(02:11):
them good, bad, wrong, unfair, essential, deserved, outrageous with our opinions.
That's why you have to be very intentional on what
you choose to have an opinion about. Okay, in this situation,
I gave him the benefit of the doubt because he's
a black man. And why wouldn't not believe a black
man who tells me he's been the victim of a
hate crime. Why wouldn't not believe a gay man who
tells me he's the victim of a hate crime? Well,
(02:32):
I didn't. And since I didn't believe and I had
no reason not to believe him, I did what is
very hard for us to do in this era. And
that's not half an opinion on this situation. Oh, we
live in this era where people choose feelings over facts.
We don't even wait for all the facts of the
matter to come out. We just grasp onto whatever reconfirms
our biases, whatever narratives we have about people, places, and things.
(02:54):
If we find situations that prove all points and we
pushed them, Okay, Jesse lion O, how we feel about homophobia.
He knows how we feel about racism. He knows how
we feel about Macca, and he played with our emotional
heart screens. Okay, this is why, even though it's very
hard a lot of times, all this noise we're here
on social media, is better to say nothing. Okay, I'm
(03:14):
speaking only for me in life. I have to focus
on the things in front of me that matter, are
more importantly that are in my control. Okay. Whether Jesse
Lion was lying and not was not a matter that
was in my control. And I wanted to wait until
all the facts came out so I can speak from
a place of facts and not feelings. And the facts
are Jesse Lyon are Jesse Smilette at authorities call him
is going to jail? Okay, it was all good just
(03:36):
a couple of weeks ago. A couple of weeks ago,
he was a potential martyr. Today he's a future fella
who's been charged with lying the cops. Let's go to
ABC seven Chicago for the report police. I think Jesse
Smilett should come clear because it's truth will set him free.
Bold words from the attorney of Abel and Ola Osandero brothers,
who spent hours talking to prosecutors in a grand jury.
(03:57):
They are the same man police say are in this
surveillance photo, and it's evidence, Jesse Smilette told Robin Roberts
shows his attackers. I don't have any doubt in my
mind that that's tonight. The Empire actor who told police
two mass men beat him yelling racial and homophobic slurs
in Chicago Streeterville neighborhood is now charged with his own
(04:20):
alleged crime, the Cook County States Attorney's Office saying Spilette
faces one felony count of disorderly conduct stemming from filing
a false police report. Spilette is expected in bondcourt tomorrow
afternoon at one thirty. Oh. He turned himself in this morning. Uh.
First of all, Chicago pet has shown improve and they
can solve a crime if they want to. Okay, all
(04:41):
the unsolved shootings that happened in Chicago, all the unsolved
murder that happened in Chicago that never gets solved. Chicago
p D figured this one out in a couple of weeks.
But let's stay focused on Jesse Lyon. Okay, Jesse I
told joined his radio since last week, you should have
shut up, okay, but you couldn't. And the reason you
couldn't is because you are. You are investing a lot
into the tention economy market. Okay, you hijack so many
(05:02):
people's attention with this FOSSi a story, and we all
know attention is the most addictive drug on the planet. Today,
instead of laying low, you decided to go to l
A to do a show. What you should have done
is just performed and shut the hell up. But instead
you read off note cards and told us what your
lawyer said. You can't say, let's hear. It's just a
couple of points that I wanted to make really quick.
I was bruised, but my ribs were not cracked, and
(05:25):
we're not broken. I went to the doctor immediately. Frank
Gatson drove me. I was not hospitalized. Both my doctors
in l A and Chicago clear me to perform, but
said to take care obviously, and above all, I fought back.
I just want to know why would a man who's
a victim's lawyer advised him not to talk. Why would
you get in trouble as the victim for talking about
your victimization. You know, why would a man be reading
(05:46):
off a note card to describe his victimization? You know
why he needed the note card, because when you tell
one lie, you have to tell a bunch of other
lives the back up your first lie. And when you
tell the truth, you don't have to remember what you said.
But when you lie, sometimes you forget. Now I know
the magic question everybody is asking is why, Okay, why
would he make something like this up? He told us
why on that stage. Listen. Yes, he wanted to be
(06:11):
the gay Tupac. Okay. Jesse Lyon wanted to be a martyr,
all right. He wanted to be a symbol of someone
who stood up against hate in America. He wanted the
same admiration that you see Kaepernick getting for taking a
need for black people. He wanted the attention that Meek
is getting for standing for the rights of those in prison.
Jesse Lyon wanted to be the gay Tupac. Okay, ambitions
(06:31):
of a writer would be a whole different song if
Tupac was gay. But let's stay on topic here, all right.
We all should have known jesse Lyon was lying when
he went on Good Morning America and was more upset
that people didn't believe him, rather than being upset about
the crime that allegedly happened to him. Let's hear it.
I'm piste off the attackers, attackers, but it's also the attacks.
(06:52):
You know. At first it was a thing of like, listen,
if I tell the truth, then that's it, because it's
the truth. Then it became a thing of like, oh,
how can you doubt that? How do you not believe
that it's the truth. And then it became a thing
of like, oh, it's not necessarily that you don't believe
that this is the truth. You don't even want to
see the truth. Okay, it wasn't the truth, Jesse. See
(07:14):
here's the thing. Racism is real, Homophobia Israel, hate crimes
really happened in this country every day. We knew this already.
You didn't know in any favors by pulling this stunt.
And don't try to act like you were doing something
for society, because you weren't. Alright, you were doing something
for personal gain. This was all very self serving. And yes,
you wanted to become a martyr, and you did. You
became a martyr for everything that's wrong with this country
and everything that's wrong with this era. People who are
(07:36):
willing to do any and everything for attention, don't think
about this too deep people. Okay, Jesse Lyon is a
cloud chaser, nothing more, nothing less. All Right, Black men
in this country have been imprisoned and killed for years
because of lies like this. Alright, you took a play
out of your oppressive playbook, sir. If the roles were
reversed and some white magnizupporters made up a lie like
this and it caused some black men to get incarcerated,
(07:57):
we will be rioting. We'd be asking the judge and
throw the book at them. We have to keep the
same energy with Jesse, because we can't become what we
claim to hate. Okay. In the words of Malcolm X,
I'm for truth, no matter who tells it. I'm for justice,
no matter who is for against period. Jesse, you cannot
become what you claim to hate. I know you were probably,
you know, trying to prove some point about racism and
homophobia in America. But you can't teach us what we
(08:19):
already know, sir. And you can't solve a problem using
the same energy that created the problem. Okay. I really
have nothing else more to say about this matter other
than and this attention economy people cashing on on experience
and some type of injustice, okay, But the difference is
the injustice that happened to Colin Kaepernick was real, all right.
(08:40):
The injustice that happened to mec Mill was real. Your
injustice was fake, alright. Jesse. You created a whole neighborhood
of make belief that doesn't make you the gay Tupac
and makes you the game. Mr Rogers. Oh, and best belief.
It's a man in the jail sell in Chicago right
now waiting for you to be his neighbor. April, please
(09:00):
let him Mark give Jesse lion a k A. Jesse
smlect the piggessy hall he ha, he ha. You're stupid, mother,
are you dumb? Piece of the planet? Charlemagne the god hand.
Today's donkey today is brought to you by the law
office of Michael s Lamon soft. Don't be a donkey
and called my friend Michael. If you've been hurting a
construction accident two on to nine six to ten twenty.
That's two on to nine, six to ten twenty. Don't
(09:22):
be a donkey, reach out and touch Michael right now.
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