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Five point one Coco Joe Jones.I saw your little video. Yes,
I'm so cute. Thank you,thank you very sexy, very fly,
thank you, hich Hey, howyou do? Finally we got this happening.
I know. I am so happy, happy for everything that's happening to
you. Thank you and for you, Thank you. I know this has
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been a long this is not apeople are just getting to know you.
So some people think you are justbrand new out of nowhere. But that
is not the case. It's thelet's give the newbies just a quick like
tutorial. Okay, well points points, give the power points started singing as
a fetus. As a fetus.Mother mother is actually a singing coaches,
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and well she's my singing coach,but she would sing in church and like
when she would do stuff around hercity for her community and whatnot. Um,
but yes, I wanted to singand take it professionally. So I
stopped playing basketball. I started reallypursuing it. My mom, I sat
basketball. Uh, respectfully, Iwas not because I was just tall as
heale and everybody else was sure tos. It's always seems like a waste
when somebody's so tall they don't playball. Yeah, but hey, I
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did, so I ain't gonna jugit. Ain't played everybody but ahead,
Okay, So yeah, I stoppedplaying basketball. I started singing. I
did talent competitions. Up judge atthe Talent Competition worked with me for two
years for free in the studio.I made a very ghetto, di y
little album about sleepovers basketball in school. How old I was ten ten,
gave it to a casting director atthis huge casting called five Thousand Kids.
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I was like, here's my album. We're gonna know about me, learn
about me, listen to this,So I was I knew. I think
I was like super sure. Itwas weird, how sure I was from
where like from God, from yourparents, from me where I just was
like, this is just what I'mgonna do, Like this is just it,
you know Yeah? And I don'tthink it until I got older that
I like, I wished I hadthat surreness and that's certain you anyway,
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So I gave them my EP.A couple of years after that, they
asked me to be on their Talentcompetition on Disney Channel, and then from
there I was really just involved withthe channel. Did a couple shows that
the movie that Changed my life waswith Hollywood Records, and then I got
drop from Hollywood Records, and thenI didn't want to do well. My
mom didn't think it was best forme to do a TV show at that
time, and I was confused tohell, that's what fast forward then I
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was doing. My mom has beenlike in charge of the career of the
whole time. Ye, well,my mom has been my team when I
didn't have a team. But obviouslyshe didn't She's my mom, and she
didn't She didn't want to have todo that. It's hard, you know,
like she just wanted to be mymom, protective and but that's what
she had to do. So yeah, then we had the little moment of
silence, what's going on in mylife? What am I doing here?
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Old? During the silence sixteen seventeen, coming out of child acting into being
an adult. Where do I fitin? What is my vibe? I
don't know what I'm doing, butI'm just gonna keep doing what I don't
even know. I don't know whatI'm doing. And then I was doing
little things, of course I do. Even if sixteen, when you're in
the quiet spot, you like youstill love it, right, like the
only reason I didn't give up isbecause I loved it, Like I just
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could not give up. Yeah,I wanted to. I was like,
why don't I want to be adentist please? I just want you to
make me want to be a dentist. I will do dentistry work passionately because
I let you know, to bea dentist, you do this, this
and then, and you're qualified.And I went to school for this,
so you have to hire me becauseI can do this job instead of like
I can do the job amazing,but I don't look like da da da
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da da or you know whatever.So yeah, I kept doing it because
I loved it. I was superconfused. And then TikTok. So I
started doing my covers on TikTok.One day I woke up and it had
been viral. But actually before this, there was a tweet on Twitter like
what happened to cocoa? So Iresponded to that. I told my story
on YouTube. They took that clipand put it on TikTok and that went
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viral first, so everybody was usingmy sound. Then I started doing cover
on TikTok. Then I met myteam. Then it's like a phenomenal recap
like of your whole career, Likeyou have done this a few times.
I've definitely, but you're doing well. You give like because I knew a
lot of this stuff, but hearingit him in the context contexts, in
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the timeline. Social media kind ofgave me my renaissance moment again and I
was going viral on TikTok and thenI met my team. I started having
acting management, music management. Myacting management was like, you need an
audition for this road. It's calledHillary and Bellair. I audition. I
get that. At the same time, I signed with def Jam high Standards,
And it was crazy timing because ifyou went too long down the Hillary
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road, it could have made peoplemaybe not try to take you seriously as
artist. But literally, when thefirst episode premier, the first season premier,
so did my music came out atthe same time. Caliber came out
at sent time. So yeah,that kind of catches you up to where
we are now. But you popto you, you just there's something about
being working so young as a kid. I know it doesn't work out for
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everybody, and it messes kids upmine sometimes if you don't have a good
um family support all of that,but there is something that prepares you to
like shine when it's when it go. I do feel like, yes,
I think I look at my Disneypast like it was boot camp. Yeah.
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So now I know how to presentmyself and represent myself well. Like
the other day, I performed ata gala, a charity gala. All
executives business. Yes, the worstnormally, yes, because they don't want
to dance. They don't want tothey don't want to show no emotion for
real, like you know, likegood luck, go ahead, whenever you're
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ready. But I literally had flashbacksto all the years where I would go
in this little black girl with alla table of executives and they'd be like,
whenever you're ready, and you justgotta go there. Yeah, there's
there's no fear allow you will notget the job, right, you know,
you just won't get the job there, so you really gotta go there.
So it's just you know what I'msaying, tell me what you're saying.
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You know what I'm saying. Isee you. But that's my hot
song. No, No, Igotta do the song. Yeah, yeah,
absolutely, but yes, it didtrain me. I look at it
all with no embarrassment. Every timeI see my younger self, I know
how much I wanted it, andI gave everything I had every time I
could. So I look at itlike, good job, little girl.
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I love that. I love thatyou have that for yourself too, because
so you Yeah, so what doesthis feel like now? Is it's like
a little surreal or does it feellike, yes, this is exactly what
where I'm supposed to be. Humbly, it does feel like this is where
I'm supposed to be. Yes,not like oh period, like yeah,
yes, of course, like Iworked, I worked my ass off.
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Yes, I'm happy that this iswhere I'm finally getting here, you know,
get my slot please, like I'mon now. You know, it
feels like it feels like I've beenat a company and they promoted me.
It's not like I was slacking off. That's why y'all promoted me. But
thank you for my promotion. Yes, thank you. I'm looking forward to
more opportunities at this company. ButI'm happy though. I am very happy.
Funny and then bell Air thing youprobably knew from the gate because there
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was a lot of expectation about thatshow, So it wasn't like, you
know, sometimes you're doing show andyou're like, is it gonna land?
Is it gonna do anyway? Youdon't really know, But I think that
show had a lot of eyeballs fromthe beginning, definitely, So you you
knew that it was gonna I don't. I'm just gonna raise your level of
awareness. I had no idea.Yeah, I had no idea. I
knew that people were gonna watch it, but I know if if black people
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are gonna watch it to hate orwatch it to love, I had no
idea how they were going to reactto that. And we always liked,
you know, because I feel likemy culture we either love it or we
hate it. Yeah, you know. So were you scared? Oh yeah,
I was scared. I was like, please like this, please,
you know. And then something somethingwith so much heritage, it's so much
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it's scary. That's very scary tomess with, like a classic. Oh
yeah, it was very near wrecking. But you're here now, Coco,
So are you having fun? Isit weird? Is it like? Because
the level of fame too, isleveled up little as a little. You
know, you're like in the streets, preople are way more probably coming up
to you and stuff. How areyou? How you adjusting? I'm having
fun because you want it. You'relike, were you so prepared and ready
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for this? Yes? I amprepared, And honestly, it's so weird.
It's like a Renaissance type of momentbecause I really feel like this is
deja vu in a in a weirdway, because you're supposed to be here.
Well, not even that, becausewhen I did my first movie that
really popped me off leg chin,I was thirteen fourteen, and I just
remember world change. Now. EverywhereI go, like groups of little kids
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would follow me and stare and stuff, and I just was like, huh,
what is this? What is this? That's when I was like,
what is going on? Yeah?I would ask my parents. They try
to explain it to me like they'reyour fans. They they're your fans,
and I'm like, what is that? What do why? Because I wasn't
fans of nobody. I just waslike, what are you doing? How
do I get to where you're at? Okayoot oh? No no no no
no, you had nobody that yougroup? Now really now, when I
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went to my first concert, literallyI'm just not like that. I'd be
like, how do you do getto your job? How do you do
what you do? It was morelike I want to learn. I've always
been like teaching me how you neverlike no, I didn't not fan of
eyes. I don't know, likeyeah, yeah, like girl, you
ain't even hit that note correctly?Scoot on over? You were coming for
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everybody. I don't know what respect. But I think because right now,
how do I get around? Something'sin my eyes driving me crazy? Sorry
happens. But also I think it'slike the sports in me. I played
basketball and my dad played professional football. We would be training every summer.
Even when I stopped singing, Iwas still doing summer camps outside. I'm
just a competitive athlete type person.I remember when I went to my first
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concert. It was a Cheetah Girlsconcert. And do they know that?
Who don't? I don't think theydo. I don't think they do.
I've actually seen Adrian. I don'tknow. I haven't gotten a chance of
to her that way. Oh yeah, you could tell. They were like
security started lining the role and we'relike, what's going on? What are
they? So then the Cheetah Girlscome out and they're like making their way
through the row looking at the crowd, right they're looking at the crowd like
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yeah, girls, we love y'all. And I swear, I swear.
And she looked at me like comeon stage with us, which one kay.
Yes. She looked at me likecome on stage. You are star
as well. Come on, andI was like, obviously, yes,
let's go. So literally, I'mlike move I tell me. I'm like,
girl, move on now, scootcheat, I'm scooting down the road
right and I feel a grab andmy mom was like, ah, she
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didn't let you go. No.I'm like, Mama, they're telling me
to go on stage with them,like it's rude to not because she's like,
no, they're not. I'm likeno, I swear. So we're
literally having like a debate. I'mlike, mom, please let me go
up there. This is my timeto shine, this is the time.
She was like no, she wasliterally like no, wait where they go?
Or you made this up in yourhead? I don't know. I
don't know if it was real.It's so clear in my mind, like
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borderline delusional. I'm a little delusional. I'm a little I just swearing.
She might have just literally looked andstared at me, but I think with
her eyes she was like I seethe star in you Come and shinee.
I was like, thank you,Oh my god, you know what I
just saw in you? You justdid that line. I get why people
say you should play gabriel Union.You got that. I didn't. I
didn't. No, I didn't seeit. I just saw it. You
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know what's so funny? With myfriends, I do a little like Gabrielle.
Come on, let's get it.Can we get it? Hey?
Come on? You know what itis like? Don't play with me?
Okay, like a little short sentences. I don't know. I always you've
done it in front of her.Has she seen? No? I don't.
I don't know if she liked thator not. Let's take her.
No, she would like it.She's a fun girl. She she is.
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I don't know. I'm not sensitive, but like, you're right,
and when I've seen her as nothingbut love, she's so nice. She
like, yeah, she loves women, she likes to support women. She's
she would love that. It's fine, it's fine, we're gonna make a
clip, but we're gonna attack her. So she could see it. So
so it's does it go beyond that? Like if there was a movie,
if there was like a Gabrielle Iwould absolutely, absolutely I love Gabrielle Union.
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I love that class and that nobullshit energy, like I would play
d Wade in your Gabrielle Union movie. Y'all got a good look with that,
because I have no idea. Whodo we think could play d Wade?
Any suggestions, Nila, who doyou got? She's at us?
Come on? Who just played thebasketball guy? And uh SINQUI maybe no
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Kofe. I like where you're goingwith this. You don't see Kofee doing
basketball? Well, it has tobe two things. He has to be
able to do basketball, but healso has to be able to handle gab
da Vinci da Vinci? Is hetall? Because you're five ten, he's
got to be he'sall. Is hetall? He's I don't know how he
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could. I don't know if hecan handle a basketball or I don't know
if he's I really don't know.I don't know he's all right. We've
we've slightly casted this movie slightly slightly. We're upen to suggestions if you want
to hit the comments and put yoursuggestions. Let's let's let's let's yeah.
I wonder what the let's put thisout in the world and see what comes
back. Okay, I'm then wewould need somebody to play a little cavea
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baby that should be a shady baby. You don't a shady baby. Um
uh. Marse Martin's little sister,mar sitness so spicy. She could play
the shady bay. Definitely could shedefinitely could not? You really, I
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like this for you because we haveto Coco. As your music career is
continuing to grow and evolved, wehave to keep the acting thing going through.
That is my goal. Absolutely.I was gonna say, is it
as as important to you or it'sin the site? It's definitely, it's
it's it's mmm a little bit justa little bit less, um But I
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do feel like it is important becauseideally I would want to go that he
got route. I mean for you, I would love to do that.
And I've done, I've done theater, I've done can you get acting everything?
So yes, okay, So thenwe need want to we need to
play. We we need I wouldneed to play play. I would need
to have to do you have todo? And I am telling you,
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oh, I'm not going that wouldeat? That would eat? Have we
seen you do that? Ever,No, you have, they've done that
publicly. You could probably sing theshit out of that song. I did.
Um, I did Beyonce's from dreamGirls. Oh listen, listen.
Yes, I was like, listento what? No listen? He yes,
yes, yes, but yeah,acting and singing. I'm trying to
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get I can't. I don't haveit. I don't have it. Listen,
that's the big what's the big theaterpart? Listen? I am alone
out of give it to them,give it to them. I'm me singing
it out and I was taking shouts. So it's the low you're gonna get
the auto out today? Yeah,I went to the clear. Where did
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you sing that? Where can wesee it? Oh? I would?
I used to sing that everywhere.That was one of my auditions. I
feel like it's somewhere somewhere out there. You probably bodied it too, I
probably. I mean I was probablya feat of singing that one. That
was one of my first auditions.What about what is your go? Do
you have a Whitney song that youdo? I don't have a Whitney song
that I used to audition to.I used to actually audition to um Chain
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of Fools read the Chain of fools. That's not a typical. I know
it was stuff that my mom wouldlisten to, like change change, chain,
chain, chain chain. I woulddefinitely do that, and my mom
would do this thing were he justgives us like two bars so we can
envision it for five long years.Hey that you want my man, but
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founder, I'm just link in yourchain. Give me this part, give
me to me. You got mewhere you want, man, I ain't
a living bunch of food. Youcan get the background, but the change
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change change. Very Yeah, that'sgood. You know I would do that
at the end, like really carrythat? Where does this? Where did
that? Where does that come from? Where do you learn that? Where
can you do that? I wantto do that so bad? You know
when you have like envy of likeI envy people who could really sing like
that because it must feel so good. It does? It does? Like
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when I'm horse or something or likeyou can't get it out. I can't
sing. I really feel low lowvibration. Really yes, I'm like,
well, tea's my purpose? Yeah? Is it weird to you that we
can't sing? Like like does it? No? No, no, you
know what I'm saying, Like that, does it seem so easy to you
that you can can you not understandwhy other people just cannot hold the damn
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note. No, it's not likethat. I look at it more like
I don't know how to do aplenty of things that people know how to
do. Okay. I think it'sjust that's the gift that I got,
and everyone has their own gifts.I don't look at it like it's weird.
Sometimes it's funny, though, doyou look at it really, like,
like do you treat it like agift? Like? Yeah, when
I because when I can't sing,I'm like my gift. Literally, I
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feel purposeless, floating in the wind. I don't live for it. It's
really sad. So what do youdo to like take care of it?
Like do you have to do?You do stuff? I do? I
I definitely do when I have importantperformances coming up. I'm on some soldier
very restricted type of lifestyle because Ihate not being ready for things. Yeah.
So, um, most of thetime I will not be drinking,
will not I won't even go outbecause I want to. I don't want
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to talk too much and like rundown my the clarity of my voice.
Um, drinking a lot of teaand liquid and practicing vocal exercises. Yeah.
Me and Nila were talking about thisearlier because I was like, do
you think like people could learn howto sing? I do think people can
learn how to even if you can'tsing, like I can't sing and Nila
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can't sing. I think you canlearn how to do things if I want
to, like in the next tenyears of my life that you think I
could learn, it might take tenSo I don't know how long did I
possibly be really seriously there? Now? That is the thing. I feel
like you can learn a lot ofthings, but sometimes it'll miss that that
real soul energy it'll give. That'sthe gift. That is the gift I
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feel, connecting to your spirit andyour soul with it, you know,
making you feel God, making youfeel heavenly. That's what I feel like
music can really do is really powerful. What's your God's song? Like,
what's the song where you saying thatyou like, you know what? Take
me to the King tambla man whoa. That's a good one. I literally
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get chills thinking about it because it'slike you can feel exactly what she's singing
there, like you can I imagine. I'm very visual to have to Yeah,
yeah, yeah, I do forsure, especially when I need to
get my spirit right because I needto be Sometimes I need to remind myself,
like before all of this, whodid I really depend on? Like
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these things don't make me or breakme, and they definitely can't keep me
safe. They're just acknowledgements moments intime, celebratory moments, but moments are
fleeting. What is my real,real safety? It is not in these
things. It's in God, youknow. So I do try to remind
myself of that when I when Iget a little too caught up in how
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and why and what, and whenyou're rooted in that, it's easier,
like how you were saying, Idon't say it from an arrogant place.
It's easy to be confident about yourgift and your purpose where you know it's
it's bigger than you. You knowwhat I'm saying. It's easy to be
like, yeah, I'm here,Yes I'm supposed to be here because I
was put here. That facts becauseyou know what I do. You know
what I'm saying, it's from adifferent place. I totally get that,
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yeah, absolutely, And every timeswhere I'm like, please change the course
of my life. This is reallyhard, and then something would happen and
I'd be like, will you keepplaying with me? Okay, We're in
another year, Here we go,here we go, you know, yeah,
this must be an exciting time though. It is exciting. So what's
on the like, what's on thefuture agenda? Yeah, yeah, like
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just in the front in the inthe front mirror right now, Like,
well, I'm really excited because II'll be talking like this happening today.
So today you just dropped the littleone two step pack? Did I hit
my five, six, seven aswell as eight? So the song Crazy
for Me, I've been really reallyeager to show my dancing abilities. So
I'm really excited for this visual tobe out for people to see another side
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of me. She's she's not onlyshe gorgeous, but she could act,
and she could sing these notes,and she could change chain chain and she
So today I just dropped my EPlive performance for my song Crazy for Me,
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off my debut EP live performance.So it's not really like a video
like a music video. It's likenot, it's not exactly a music video.
It's a taped performance. It's aperform Yeah yeah, yeah, but
you're bodying it and you look amazing. Thank you. And you got no
shoes on. I don't have shoesand you five tens so you could do
that. Yeah, I was like, let me get like them, so
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I want to eat it up likethem. He was eating it up.
It looked like you're having fun too. I did have fun. So wait,
this is the beginning of like anotherthing that we're about to start seeing.
I think, just another side ofme that I also can do.
You know, I really really wasnervous when I see you came out because
I was telling my team like,what if they only want me to do
this part? I want to dancelike I want to. I love to
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dance. I love to be onstage and give that energy. So I
just want to remind everyone that Ido multiple things. My concerts will be
multiple things because I am multi.Is there a concert coming? Is there
tour coming? Plan on being onmy own tour? Your tour is gonna
be so good. I already knowit. Thank you. Who would you
go out with? Have you thoughtabout that? I have actually a couple
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of girls that I would want.You want to do girls? Yeah?
I would, I would want todefinitely do girls, and honestly, I
would want to do black girls aswell, because I just feel like I
have a platform and I want toshare that with my sisters. Yeah,
like it's only right. I wishsomebody would have done that for me.
Yeah, that would have been nice. We could have got to this earlier.
I know, right, but it'sall right. It's God's timing.
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God's timing. We're here now.Okay, So that dropped today, which
is very exciting. Now people seeyou with the one two and then what's
next? Well touring and then Bellairseason three and there's a lot to manage.
Yes, it is. And throughoutthe whole time, I'll be working
on my debut album because I onlyhad all this happened with eb It's amazing.
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And when's album come? Do youhave a timeframe? I would say
it would come out when season threeof bell Air would come out, and
realistically that would be a beginning ofthe year. Have you got any Emmy
nominations, Jeff for bell Air yet? I don't know. Did we?
Oh? Yeah, I don't know. I don't know. For what.
You should know these things, Coca, because if you get an Emmy nomination,
if you win an emmy. Thenyou're on your way to your A.
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That's true. You gotta focus,gotta focus, I know, right,
I'm like, da, let meget to go. Honestly, I
am not one hundred but we definitelyhave a lot of um reason to be
concerned. So so season for surehappening. Yes, it definitely got picked
up. It got picked up.You haven't shot anything. You haven't shot
anything yet. It's a good teamtoo. You seem like it's like the
cast is dope, but it's good. Everybody seem talented, Yes, really
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really well casted. I would sayI thought they did. I thought you
guys did a great job. Thankyou could have went either way, could
have one either could have win eitherway. I'm just saying, even as
talent, you know that, Ohyeah, we all knew. We were
like this could we go, Thiscould go either well. Because also that
there was some hate ration and hilerationand that dancery like people were not sure.
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They were very unsure. Really,they weren't living for even the idea.
Are you feeling that? Yeah?No, but I don't look at
the comments like that. You don'thow you managing that? Um? I
just get on TikTok or I justwatched the Office or something like. I
don't want to get into that becauseI feel like it ain't my business what
y'all got to say about me,and less good, thank you, thank
you, thank you. I appreciateit. But sometimes people just lean negatively,
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like some some like stuff is justgonna always lean negatively. So I
don't even go over there. Nowyou cannot. So we do a little
feature called google Me. Have youever google yourself? Yeah? Because sometimes
the pictures we look at ragty andI'm like, can we figure out why
is my Wikipedia the one where Ihad that bright pink lipstick on no line?
I didn't even know what I wasdoing. Is that the one that's
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there? There? It googled yourself? I have, So do you know
what comes up? Like some ofthe top questions that people ask about you,
I'm gonna ask someone to tell youyou can answer you. You're gonna
answer them for me. Some ofthem are very simple and simple, Like
one of them says, where wasI born? What is Coco Jones's real
name? Yeah? Courtney, that'scute. Courtney? Is there a middle?
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Courtney? All right? Sorry?I don't want to and your Social
Security number. No, I'm justkidding. How tall it's Coco Jones?
I ain't say five ten, butsometimes some doctor has said five nine,
some say five ten. I don't. I don't know. I think five
ten. Somebody google? People googlewhat is Coco Jones famous for? A
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lot? I'm just kidding, Um, that's a good answer. Literally good
which which one? Which? Whichfame? The baby fame on the Grown
Girl a lot? How old wasCoco Jones? And Let It Shine?
Fourteen? What movie does Coco Jonesplay in? Let It Shine? They're
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very intelligent to people who google.Your fan base is uh, you google
in these things? You don't knowher. That means if you're googling things
you are new to that. Yeah, that's true. This is a new
circles. This is a new circleof people that are like, who is
this Coco, Where is Coco Jones? What is she famous for? What
is her real name? It's CocoJones married. I have seen that too.
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I'm like, no, I'm notWow. Who trying to come with
daddy? Yeah? Yeah, yo, your DM's got to be crazy though,
I mean, yes, they're not. First of all, I'll be
feeling like that's gassed up, likeDM's being crazy. I just feel like
that's kind of gassed up. Peopledon't still do it. It's not a
thing still. I know they doDM and everything, but I just feel
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like it's not what what do peoplethink now that I have a song we
Recognize your Beauty Lady that sings likeit's always been people a DM, like
I imagine for you. Here's whatI imagine. There's some very famous actor
or artist, or let's maybe anathlete, somebody who is in his own
world, maybe he's famous too.He sees you from Afar, he sees
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your new dance video and your barefeet. He's like, how can I
get to know her? So hegoes to the DM. That's what I'm
talking about. DM. Well,that's very realistic, but that happens a
lot. I'm gonnamagine. Yes,yes, it's probably a solid list too,
like yes, yes, yes,some aren't like selling something. I'm
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like, what you know, ButI feel like I'm more of the we
gotta meet in person. Yes,I would ideally not like to meet somebody
off of Instagram because then I'm gonnago to your page and like, first
of all, I'm already analyzing thefirst thing you say to me, So
it's just gotta eat. And youdon't even know me, so you don't
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even I don't even know how yousaid that. What would what would be?
What would be? What would eat? What would be a thing?
I really like if you were youand you were trying to holler at you
your DM, what would be athing that would shot a shot? Now
I'm just kidding. I would reallylike upfront, to the point, respectable
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and plans like don't one sentence thatmeans nothing. I don't what are you?
What is this? I don't understandwho are you? You know,
like, I think you're really beautiful. I would love to get to know
you more if you be okay withthat, No pressure, like leave it
up to me. Yeah, no, no, non'd be two pushy?
Yeah, like please somebody. Thatwouldn't be difficult. That's in some sense,
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thank you, yes, yes,some sense, keep right there,
keep right on there, let's putit, put it out there, but
don't push let me let me comeright right right right. This is good
advice if somebody is thinking about it, well, don't just copy and paste
what I said, but razzle dazzyon it. Otherwise I'm gonna see right
through. Yeah, you better putsome razzle dazzle. Okay. So Coco
Jones is not married. No,uh, it's Coco Jones Mike Jones's daughter,
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yes, but not the rapping one, not the rapper's daughter, not
the rapper's Coco Jones from s WV. No, phones don't know what things
about me? Coc Are you thechild of Mike Jones, the rapper and
Coco from s WV. Now thatwould be crazy, That would be crazy.
No, y'all, come on,now, they should have googled the
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other thing before they googled that.They should have These people they know nothing.
That is how you do. Googlemade them very well. You answered
all the questions. Nothing was toocrazy. No, that isn't crazy.
Have you ever met Coco from sWV. Yes, yes, it was
so nice. She was super superfriendly. I met her kid to her
kid was like a really big fanof me. It was really cool.
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That's sweet. Yeah, Coco,Coco, Coco collabor at some point,
that could be fun. I havedouble back Sample's rain right, it's the
WV on my EP. So Ithink it would be cool one day,
like maybe for crossing baths, likethey could they could do that that with
me. They have to clear thatright, So yeah, they did they
know about it. They said yes, they said yes, thank y'all.
That means they approved who's been thegreatest co sign Like who's been the biggest
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surprise of something like that where somebody'slike maybe somebody you look up to is
like like your work or been inI think um Janet Jackson, Oh,
she she posted my whole performance ofone of her songs that I had sang,
um the whole thing. She puton her Instagram and feed are you
in for you? Yes? Andlike was like giving big up in me
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that like was very very shocking.Do you get alert that this is gonna
happen like to somebody else? Itjust came up. My manager called me
and she was like but then Iwas like, oh my gosh, Yeah
that's all I was. It wasI saying I get to lonely. Oh
that's a good one. I thinkI saw that. Now that you say
that, I think I saw that. How exciting for you? Very cool?
All right? So then Coco,you're set, You're good, You're
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on your way. All the thingsyou want to happen are gonna happen.
You're gonna get to eat goott.Yeah, what do you have a timeframe
on this? Five ten years?God's timing with the time frame, because
that drove me crazy. Yeah,because I thought when I was sixteen,
I was gonna drive my car upto my new job and I'd be like,
oh my gosh, you guys youcan parkad yeah, come on,
and then I'd be like, dada da da da, and then I
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drive him there. In my concert, I didn't drive anywhere because there was
no too, because I am Ihave no job. So no, I'm
not putting any time. But youmanna keep voting though I couldn't if I
could have, if I just couldn't. I loved it too much. I
loved it too much. I wantedto see, you know, it all
play out like it is now.Just knew I had to keep Is it
everything you imagined it would be?It is everything that I imagined it would
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be. Yes, the good partsand the bad parts. You expected them,
I did. Yeah, I know, it's not like I'm just gonna
walk into a fairy tale lands.It's still the music business. Yeah,
it's still business. And you wereraised to probably have some type of understand.
I know your father played football,but it's still a level of like
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like I don't know, just professionalismand like public. And I think they
definitely raised me to always show upas my best version of myself and be
professional and really market myself and pitchmyself, you know what I'm saying,
Like look at me as a productin a way, and I want to
be the best version. But Ido think that they left me a little
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naive as to how this was allgoing to play out. Yes, I
mean I moved to La by myselfwhen I was seventeen. Well that's wild,
and well they had to let mego. That's seventeen. Yeah,
I graduated early. So I don'tlet my seventeen year old go to a
house party if I don't if theparents y'all here in New York scary dot
com. We was in leban andnothing but Digger's out there, so they
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were really like, oh, goto LA, you have a good time.
Seventeen Yes, So I just thoughtI was going to get there and
it was immediately going to change.I wasn't super naive, so I had
to learn. I think I hadto learn all over again what my music
industry life will look like how tohave my dreams still in the midst of
that without them shriveling out of fearthat they won't happen? And that was
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hard to learn. Again, hepushed through, you're here now, so
good. How are you balancing regularlife? You have friends and or your
friends you don't ever see them?Like, do you have a normal life?
Like yeah, doing normal things?Yeah, I feel like I'm real
normal. Sometimes my team gets madat me because I just go and do
normal things myself. You want asupermarket, walk around by myself anywhere,
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That's what continue said. She said, continue, tell me what else?
Uber? Yeah, you're not uberxing, are you? I don't know?
You better be uber blacking at leastshe still sometimes gonna be like she
come on, what's up the street? And then one time I was in
New York and I was like,why is this? We're so cheap?
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I was like, I get it, though they know they got a glitch
of something going on. It wasuber x it was uber share, uberpool,
Oh, uberpool. Then I getin there and then we didn't make
a stop. And then this otherman get in there, and I was
like, what the hell? Andthen I look at this thing. I
was like oh. And then Iwas like, well, we're on the
way now. She come on.And then I'm talking to my mom.
I'm like, Mom, look whatI'm doing. I was like, I'm
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in a uber uber share and shewas like going off of me. She
was like, oh, do youcan't be doing this stuf? But anymore,
Like I try to tell you know, I was like, I don't
know who was the guy who gotinto uber share. I don't know.
He didn't speak my language. Okay, so it was okay, it worked
out, okay, but don't playthat game because that was good. That
was very goofy. I didn't know. I thought it was a glitch.
I don't know why. Is probablynot ideal, not ideal for you.
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I wouldn't even do that normally,you know. I didn't even know they
still did that. I thought thatwas done after the pandemic. There's too
many I didn't know. There's toomany crazy people got to be. I
definitely played myself. I was laughingreally hard. That was very goofy of
me. You seem pretty grounded andlike you're still doing normal stubs. I
mean, me and my friends,we are normal we are. I just
feel like I get along with peoplethat just don't care about all of that
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stuff. You're not you're not impressedby like no celebrity or fame, anyone
who's trying to flex that. I'mlike, yeuck, no, that just
doesn't do it for me. LikeI'm never gonna walk around Oh yeah,
I see you. Yeah, You'regonna have to dig deep and ask me
what I really do to get afull answer, and then have to I'm
gonna be like, why do youwant to know that? Right? You
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know? Like what I just wantto be human beings because I just look
at it like, this is myjob. I happened to do this job.
What's your job? What do youdo? Yeah? You know?
Cool? We're going on and yourfriends are all good? Yeah, my
friends are all like in different lanes. So I have some some friends that
are like more influencers fashion pages,like they do flat fashion stuff like that.
And then um um, I havea friend who's a nurse. One
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of my other best friends plays Lisaon the show bell Air, So someone
who plays Lisa loved that girl.And then my best friend Jalen is also
an actor and we met through likeDisney Channel, like we met when we
were fifteen, so they all understandyour life. Yeah, everyone gets it.
And I mean it's also LA,so people see celebrities there, and
I feel like it's kind of interesting. I feel like they aren't faced by
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celebrities in LA either, you know, like it's not like hey, it's
like hey, we know that's good. You're so good. She's so good.
She got a good family, gota good career. Your friends are
good. Yeah, you got theguys are gonna start coming more correctly in
your dms. It's all working out, it is. And then ten years
from from now, Coco, whatare we looking at? Ooh? I
live played this game because I wantto think about my life. Okay,
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let's think about your life. I'llbe a amazing singer by then in ten
years will because you'll start practicing.What was the hill was that? I
don't know that. That's not goodfor that very dark energy. That's bad.
That's good. People think that's goodfor you. No, that's not
good for your vocal cords. Tellme what? Tell me what you want
to know? Something else that's verysurprising. He is not good. Really,
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it's a dehydrant. I didn't knowthat myself. I was mortified and
sad. I had no idea.Yes, so many people drink what about
coat? That's what I know you'reI know. I was also shook.
So what do you actually throat?Coat? Is a lot of people.
It's herbal, it's herbal, nocapping, yes, green please, Sorry,
I'm on that yack I want tosay, but no, actually he
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is a dehydrant, most of themexcept the herbal one. So it was
pretty sad. Oh that's what Ihave verbal tak Okay, your life will
not be affected by So I'll bean amazing singer in ten years. Well,
if you stopped doing that little growl, I think you're well on your
way to something decent. Ten years, I um hmm. I definitely will
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have put out multiple albums and multiplefilms. So I feel like I will
be a household name, yes,talking, talking, yes, which I
think equals a level of respect onmy name that I really want. I
want that creative control in that respectthat I feel Beyonce has that. I
feel Rihanna has that. Anything theirname is associated with. You know what
you're getting. You know it's goingto be excellent. You're gonna want to
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see it. You're gonna wear hearit, wear it, whatever it is.
You know what you think consistency anda level of quality with your consistency
every time, showing up and showingout every time. Yeah, I agree.
I think people get caught up sometimeswith like the quick fix or the
quick kids, so the good alot of numbers or all that stuff,
and then you put out stuff that'sfor that, Yeah, as opposed to
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the thing that's going to elevate you. Absolutely. I think if it was
up to me, I would chooselongevity way more than I would choose numbers
and fame like that has nothing becauseit can come and go and then what
am I gonna do in my life? This is all I know, So
I'd rather be doing this. Areyou trying to have like fashion? I
mean like like cosmetic lions and productsand all those things will be attached to
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some products, Okay, okay something. Yeah, I was gonna you're trying
to hit a billion at some point. I mean, I'm not gonna say
no because you just mentioned Beyonce andRihanna. I didn't do that. Yeah,
I did say you were very specific, So yeah, definitely a Coco
Jones something. Put it in yourshopping cart. Eventually. By the way,
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whatever you're buying, whatever you're selling, I'm buying. Okay, we're
gonna start with something to clear thatthrow. I've had enough of her jaws.
Everybody. That was so much fun. Okay. I didn't even look
at none of the notes. Iwant to make sure there wasn't anything that
we were supposed to talk about thatwe didn't fast. I didn't. I
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watched videos sped out because I liketo hear people talk really fast, get
to the point really fast. Andthe way you were talking this now,
it was really fast, and Ilived for it. Really, So every
interview like this interview, like you'llwatch this interview back, Yeah, I'll
watch it in two X because Iwant to know how I was looking at
how I was talking about. Idon't want to take the time to watch
it and slow because it takes toomuch time. You talk really fast,
ste if you want. Well,now I'm doing it on purpose, but
I found myself. Okay, Butif we do if we do this,
let's just say this, let meput this out there for you. If
we do an interview, if wefinished interview, if we do it,
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really fast, and we talk reallyfaster than the interview and the when you're
watching a double speed, well thenI would it would technically be for X
and I would live with that evenmore because that's faster. That's the fastest
way to watch. I wish theyhad. I wish they had a faster
speed. Really, I really do. I've googled it. You watched TV
shows like this though, yeah,because I'm like, let me get this
entertainment, but I'm also trying toeat this plate, so let's go and
I have things to do. Butyou miss out on some of the new
ones because the little things that happened, like the little well sometimes if it's
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really funny, all re wind becauseI'm like, that was hilarious. I
want to see that again. Slowemotion or I'll be like, what did
he just say? Not so emotion? Actually regular motion would be slow motion
for you. Yes, yes,unless it's like this is a purpose we
had the movie theater Corney shut thehell up and watched this in a normal
way, and I'm just like finewith it. I trained myself. Your
brain is definitely going out over timeif you're watching everything like that all the
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time. Oh girl, you shouldhear my audio books that is giving Bust
of Rhymes. I was like,this is a damn shame. Nobody here.
You should google Angie Martinez Bust ofRhymes. Uh, you know I
did that first when it first cameout. No, no, when it
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first came out, I was likethe first one to do it. No.
Yeah, it was like a viralthing. Bust have just did the
thing about it. He talked aboutme doing it and it was like first
thing. But it was super fast. But if we watched that in double
speed, now, how amazing thatwould be. I'd be hilarious. Can
you do it? No, youcan't do it. Every time I come
around with the un I was gonnabe, oh, wait let because I'm
a running nothing like I gotta geta wait wait away. But I know
that I know, and I wantto stop. You know, I gotta
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win every day day and I justreally want to pop me. He just
know that you want to stop me. And I'm gonna we a little guy
about You're never gonna stop me everytime I'm going to go and I gotta
get it. I gonna point Igotta shut it. It was an eye
contact that the eye contact was reallyamusing, and then you were keeping me
there. I was like, comeon, come on, keep up with
me. I'm here for you.If you ever decided to do that live,
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well, okay, we'll back youup. Thank you,