Ne-Yo Reveals What It Takes to Make Polyamory Work & How His Family Reacted to His Truth

Ne-Yo Reveals What It Takes to Make Polyamory Work & How His Family Reacted to His Truth

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:07):
Neo is here. Yeah, what's up, my love?

Speaker 2 (00:14):
How are you?

Speaker 1 (00:15):
I'm excellent?

Speaker 2 (00:16):
How are you as good as am? I fantastic? Good? Yeah? Man?

Speaker 1 (00:20):
What's your life? What's happening? You're on the road, You're
in lots of by the way, it's like a different
life since I've seen you last time.

Speaker 3 (00:28):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, a lot of a lot of
attention from blogs and all of that.

Speaker 1 (00:33):
How are you dealing with that?

Speaker 2 (00:34):
I'm not it'll love it.

Speaker 3 (00:36):
I mean, I don't care it is yeah, listen, I'm
indifferent to all of that. I'm doing what I'm doing
regardless of whether they approve or disapproved.

Speaker 2 (00:42):
It is what it is.

Speaker 1 (00:44):
What season is this for?

Speaker 2 (00:45):
Neo? What season?

Speaker 3 (00:47):
This is a This is the season of brutal honesty.
I'm just doing me and.

Speaker 2 (00:55):
Being who I am, how I am and letting the
people that have a problem would it, genuinely just have
a problem with it?

Speaker 1 (01:02):
What changes in your life that makes you want to
do that? Because you didn't always feel that way? You
were trying to fit into boxes. We jump right into it.
But it's a small you know.

Speaker 2 (01:14):
It's you. It's good.

Speaker 1 (01:15):
It's all good, I know, right, you know, the love
is there.

Speaker 3 (01:18):
Indeed, no, no, you know what, To be honest, it
was it was my divorce and how many people I
hurt in that process?

Speaker 2 (01:25):
You know, it wasn't it wasn't just it wasn't just
Max wife. I got hurt. A lot of people got
hurt in that process.

Speaker 3 (01:30):
And after, you know, owning that, I realized that I
never wanted to make a person feel like that ever
again in life.

Speaker 2 (01:37):
So that's when I decided from that.

Speaker 3 (01:39):
For that's mature, it's it's honesty at this point, it's brutal,
painful honesty. It is all killing Olfiller And yeah, I
can honestly say I've never been happier, really never been happy.

Speaker 1 (01:49):
Good for you, man. So wait, so before were you
like trying to fit into a box that you weren't
or were you just you know what, because you know,
because you get rap for that, like if you do
bad by your wife or you break somebody's heart or
you then just the bad rap it's on you because
you made a commitment and well that's so you get

(02:10):
the bad RepU and that's trying to be that or
will you.

Speaker 3 (02:13):
Just I was a relationship wise, I was trying to
be you know what society's norms tell you that you're
supposed to be. You know, one man is supposed to
be with one woman, and that's just what it is,
regardless of you know, how you are genetically made up,
regardless of whether you're a person that thrives off of
diverse energies or not. One man, one woman, and that's

(02:34):
what it is. And mind you, I'm not saying that
that doesn't work for some people. It just has never
worked for me. And I've decided to stop trying to
be something that I'm not and just go ahead and
be what I am. And again, it's just a happier life.

Speaker 1 (02:47):
Yeah, I love that for you. When do you? When
do you? How does you know? Because it's when you
change anything in your life, whether it's this or anything.
Sometimes people who love you like you a certain way.
Then when you make a change your life, whatever it is,
it's not good for everybody. True, How do people respond? Like,
how does your family respond? Your kids respond?

Speaker 2 (03:07):
Everybody is cool?

Speaker 3 (03:08):
Because so here's the thing with the people in my
life that genuinely love me, they love when I am happy.
Because when I'm happy, everything lights up right right. I
am a beacon of light When I am happy and
they notice, so they say, my mom, if you are happy,
I'm happy. You know she's met them, she loves them.

(03:29):
Everybody gets along. My kids have met them, loved them.
Everybody gets along. It's it's really and truly, I couldn't
I couldn't wish for a better situation, to be honest, I'm.

Speaker 1 (03:39):
Thinking as a mom, like if my son called me,
was like, I want you to understand that this is
my and I want you to meet them. And I
don't know.

Speaker 3 (03:46):
My mom is a little cool of an average bear though,
you know what I'm saying, like the.

Speaker 1 (03:50):
Gate or did you have to convince her?

Speaker 3 (03:51):
I had to explain to her what it was, you know,
because again she's she's she's she's old fashioned. But at
the same time, it's all about it's about what makes now.
She knows your history, she knows Indy, Indy, and she's like, listen,
the fact that you are just being honest with everybody,
being honest about everything, the fact that you're not manipulating anyone,
not forcing anybody.

Speaker 2 (04:12):
If you like it, I love it.

Speaker 3 (04:14):
But I definitely want to meet these women, especially considering
the fact that they will potentially be around my grandchildren.
I want to meet them, I want to vet them myself.
And she did just that, and yeah, she gets along
with everybody.

Speaker 2 (04:24):
Well, I think it's good.

Speaker 1 (04:25):
So to most people, guys especially, this seems like, ah,
this is amazing. It can't be all like, nothing in life.

Speaker 2 (04:32):
Is all good, nothing in life is all good.

Speaker 1 (04:34):
There's got to be challenges in this type of lifestyle, right.

Speaker 3 (04:37):
So, I mean, you're dealing with four different women, four
different personalities, four different energies.

Speaker 1 (04:41):
Because one relationship is hard.

Speaker 2 (04:43):
Definitely.

Speaker 3 (04:44):
So if I will say this is not for everyone,
please do not. This is not me downing monogamy. Please
do not leave your monogamous relationship because Neil said that
polyamorous relationships work. Don't do that because shit did go wrong.
You can't call me, and I'm not calling you.

Speaker 2 (05:01):
I will say this.

Speaker 3 (05:02):
The only way this works is through again, brutal and
painful and blunt honesty.

Speaker 2 (05:08):
And we talk about it.

Speaker 3 (05:09):
We talk about jealousy, we talk about insecurity, we talk
about all of these things, but we talk about it
together as a unit.

Speaker 2 (05:15):
That's that's the key.

Speaker 1 (05:17):
Radical honesty.

Speaker 2 (05:18):
Radical honesty. Yes, I think that's like a real term.
If it's not, it should.

Speaker 1 (05:23):
Be radical honesty. I saw it the bel air, the
husband and the wife conversation. We should have some radical honesty,
pull punches.

Speaker 3 (05:31):
I don't need you the sugar coat. I don't need
kid gloves, none of that. We're gonna say exactly what
it is because that's the only way for everybody to
be on the same page and for us to thwart
the situation. It's never us versus us, it's us versus
the situation.

Speaker 1 (05:44):
Yeah, so what is your honesty?

Speaker 3 (05:47):
Like?

Speaker 2 (05:47):
Why? Why?

Speaker 1 (05:48):
What is it about you that? Like, if you're saying
I'm being radically honest, listen, that doesn't work for me.
This is better for me? What is it about that
that's better for you?

Speaker 2 (05:56):
Like?

Speaker 1 (05:56):
Why? Why is it just choices? Is just I'm not
trying to be funny, trying to understand the like why
this could work for certain people versus why it would
not work for other people? Like, what is it about
you that you feel like this works for me? And
I'm being honest that it.

Speaker 2 (06:14):
Because I've always been a free spirit.

Speaker 3 (06:18):
I do not like to feel boxed in. I do
not like to feel tied down or anything like that.
I thrive off of just being able to move freely.
That's just the reality of it. And I can't tell
you why that is. It's just how it's just kind
of always been who I am. Like even in monogamous
relationships like now in mind you, I'm doing everything in
my power to remain faithful, to be able to uphold

(06:41):
the promises that I made. But it's just something in
me that even if things are going good, after a while,
I'll just start feeling like I'm in prison, you know,
and it's and it's not a good thing.

Speaker 2 (06:52):
It's not a good thing.

Speaker 3 (06:53):
And that's that's when you know, temptation starts to creep
in and then you start doing stupid stuff. A lot
of time, it wasn't even about just wanting to be
physical with somebody else. It's just literally just okay, I'm
doing the same thing with the same person every day
for the rest of my life. And just for me personally,
that just didn't work for me, like like I'm fascinating
just for me again, Like I said, I know people

(07:15):
that have made the monogamy thing work.

Speaker 2 (07:16):
In more power to you.

Speaker 3 (07:17):
It's it's a beautiful thing when you can make it
work if it works for you, But just for me personally,
it's just just never been a thing that made tends
for me.

Speaker 1 (07:24):
I wonder if there's stats, like if you look at
like people who are married and the divorce rate versus
people in a relationship like this, Like I don't know,
are imagine what the success rates?

Speaker 2 (07:37):
Like?

Speaker 1 (07:37):
Is this a successful It's also challenging, Like you said,
there's other challenges. It's just a different challenge, different challenges.

Speaker 2 (07:43):
You have to be a.

Speaker 1 (07:44):
Patient success rate of this type of relationship.

Speaker 2 (07:47):
I have no idea.

Speaker 3 (07:48):
I honestly want to talk to some more people in
this kind of relationship because I haven't like we kind
of just you know, jumped into this. It wasn't first
and foremost, it wasn't exactly playing. I didn't wake up
and go all right, I'm going to get four a
girl friends. It didn't happen like that. I just kind of,
you know, brought together everybody that I was dealing with anyway,
and said, listen, here's what it is. I don't want

(08:09):
a lie to nobody. I don't want anybody being a
dark about anything. I want to put everything out on
the table and give you all the option to either
rock with it or not.

Speaker 2 (08:16):
And everybody chose to rock everyone chose. Yeah. Yeah, hm,
that's impressive.

Speaker 1 (08:21):
No, I will take that present.

Speaker 2 (08:25):
As a compliment.

Speaker 1 (08:26):
Yeah, No, I'm good.

Speaker 2 (08:28):
I mean it was like.

Speaker 3 (08:29):
So that's not to say that I haven't approached other
women with the situation and they know they were like, yeah,
and if and if you're not with it, that's fine.

Speaker 2 (08:37):
There's no love loss. You go your way, I go mine.

Speaker 1 (08:39):
I'm very curious about the success rate of that if
it's higher, But she got to be a percentage rate
of that. Yeah, So how is being free and happy?
How has that changed your life?

Speaker 2 (08:49):
Like?

Speaker 1 (08:49):
Do is it changed the music? Does it change like
your mentalchange everything?

Speaker 3 (08:53):
Just just mental mental stability is a serious thing, especially
in in the realm of just black men period.

Speaker 2 (09:02):
And I can honestly.

Speaker 3 (09:03):
Say just being able to live in my truth, being
able to be vulnerable if I need to be vulnerable,
knowing that I have a safe space in this group
of people, it just makes for It just makes everything
that much better, you know, my relationship with my kids,
my career, my music, everything is just everything gets an
upgrade because I'm vibrating higher.

Speaker 2 (09:25):
That makes sense.

Speaker 1 (09:26):
Yeah, because you're in your truth. Indeed, I saw you
post the young Miami clip.

Speaker 2 (09:30):
Yeah, yeah, she was riding for you. Appreciate your mama shots,
young Miami.

Speaker 1 (09:35):
I ain't at Listen. Truth is the number one thing.

Speaker 2 (09:39):
It is.

Speaker 1 (09:39):
It has to start anything, and whatever your situation in
life is, truth is the beginning of that.

Speaker 3 (09:44):
I've been telling people, Listen, if you're in a monogamous relationship,
polyamaged relationship, whatever the case may be, if you can't
be honest with the person that you're with, you might
not be with the right person. If you feel like
you have to lie, you have to hide things, you
have to sugarcoat things in order for y'all to get
to a certain spacing and relationship. That might be something
that you need that you need to look into.

Speaker 1 (10:03):
Yeah, and so interesting, But you know, because there's not
that many people that are living this lifestyle that talk
about it so freely. Indeed, that you are going to
be like a poster child, like people are gonna expect
you to have the answers to this, Neil, what is
the success rate? We want to know that. What are
the challenges?

Speaker 3 (10:22):
Being asked a lot of questions, people telling me I
should teach a seminar. I'm like, but it ain't nothing
to teach because I haven't done anything.

Speaker 2 (10:28):
You're figuring it out. So people say, all right, is
it clearly this works because you're rich.

Speaker 3 (10:33):
No, No, that ain't either, because first and foremost, if
the only women you deal with are the kind of
women that are only with you about to buy some money,
then you need to check you and why it is
that you only attracted or attracted to the women that
do that. You know what I'm saying. For me, I
need to know that. Come on, I wrote misindependent. I
need to know that if I'm not there, you can
still get it done. That's that's that's a prerequisite to.

Speaker 2 (10:54):
Being with me.

Speaker 3 (10:55):
So these four women that mind you, I'm old fashioned
in the sense of if I take us to dinner,
don't you dare touch your purse, don't you dare touch
your door? Don't do that. That's me if that's what
it is. However, if the situation never called for it,
and you know the proverbial essays to you hit the
fan and I couldn't do it, I need to know
that you could back me up.

Speaker 2 (11:14):
That's that's the thing.

Speaker 1 (11:15):
So that's not just a song. You really like that.

Speaker 2 (11:18):
I want that. I need that.

Speaker 3 (11:20):
They all have their own businesses, They own their own jobs,
they own hustles, they all make their own money, you
know what I mean.

Speaker 2 (11:25):
And it is a beautiful thing.

Speaker 1 (11:28):
That's fascinating. Yeah, man, what are the challenges? Be honest,
because don't.

Speaker 2 (11:32):
Make this sound like it's no, no, no no no.

Speaker 3 (11:35):
So one of the major challenges is time because I
don't have a lot of free time. You know, I
have seven beautiful children, I have a career that is
still moving like you know, like it's still twenty twenty five,
I mean twenty oh five, and this thing, I move
around a lot, so I don't have a lot of
free time. And everybody needs their own individual time. You know,
we do things as a group, but in a relationship

(11:57):
like this, you have to make sure that individual time
is just as poigant as group time. So you know,
there's certain situations where one may feel like this one
is getting a little more attention, or this one is
getting a little more time, or something like that. But again,
whenever that happens, I bring everybody together. We all hash
it out right then and there. Okay, tell let's you know,

(12:18):
bring bring your issue to the table, and we resolve
it as a group. That's the only way it works.
See side conversations and all of that that don't work.
No side conversation, No, no, we bring it to the table.

Speaker 2 (12:28):
It's not us versus us. We are a team.

Speaker 3 (12:30):
It is the team versus whatever the issue is, not
the team versus the team.

Speaker 1 (12:36):
But isn't there just human nature? Like even I think
about my friends, like sometimes I'm closer to this friend
than I am to that friend because whatever's going on
in my life. Don't you have like moments where you're
like connected to one more than the other.

Speaker 3 (12:50):
Well, that's the beautiful thing about it. Everybody brings something
different to the table, so I'm connected to each of
them in a different way. You know, there's one that
I can have an intellectual conversation where there's one that
I just laugh with all the damn time. There's one
that I can vibe with on an artistic level. You know,
we can we can sit and talk art. You know,
there's one that I can sit and watch the Zoos
Tevie shows with. You know, like everybody kind of has

(13:12):
their own thing, but then we all come together as
a unit and it's it's like it's literally like Vultron.
It's a bunch of different robots that make the one
big robot. That's fascinating, it's beautiful.

Speaker 1 (13:23):
We're going to do like a case study here, a
case I also want to know, you know, the rate
of like success in these type of relationships.

Speaker 2 (13:32):
That's something I'm on to look We got to look
that up. We gotta find that.

Speaker 1 (13:34):
Do you not have a mentor in the space?

Speaker 2 (13:36):
Is there? Nobody? Has anybody reached out and aid a
lot lately? I don't know.

Speaker 3 (13:40):
Maybe I need to find one. I mean again, I
feel like I feel like I really am I really
am freestyling. Yeah, I'm just doing what works.

Speaker 1 (13:49):
Feel like we're all technically we're all freestyling in our relationships,
whatever kind of relationship with I feel like I feel
like as long again, as long as the main rules
are followed, and the main rule is just.

Speaker 3 (13:59):
To keep the buck like, we're not gonna lie and
I'm not gonna lie to each other. We're not gonna
sit up and blow smoke. I ain't selling no dreams
and I'm not forcing anybody to be here. If for
whatever reason you decide to say for you no more,
the door is never locked. You have permission to go
on about your business. I don't want anybody to think
that I'm manipulating these women into doing something they don't.

Speaker 2 (14:19):
Want to do. Everyone that is here is here by choice. Yeah. Absolutely,
they made the decision. The most.

Speaker 3 (14:26):
The question I get asked the most is are they
allowed to date outside of me? That's the question I
get all the damn time, And I'm answering right now, no,
And I'm gonna tell you why.

Speaker 2 (14:36):
No, they are not.

Speaker 3 (14:37):
Here's the thing. When I got with these women, I
did not ask for their exclusivity. I did not demand
their exclusivity. They offered it, they said. They came to
me and said, I want to be exclusive to you,
and just you.

Speaker 2 (14:50):
I said, you.

Speaker 3 (14:51):
Understand that your exclusivity to me does not mean my
exclusivity to you.

Speaker 2 (14:56):
You understand this, Yes, you're okay with this? Yes, okay, cool.

Speaker 3 (15:00):
Since you are offering your exclusivity and I'm taking it now,
there's rules that I need you to follow. But at
the same time, I don't do ownership like I'd be
a fool to feel like I'm the only person that
anybody will ever be attracted to, anybody will ever want
to see. I know that, so should that situation never
ever come up. Nothing is above a conversation. However, in

(15:21):
that I'm the head of this household, what I say go?
So if I say no, it's a no, and you
just got to let that be a no.

Speaker 2 (15:28):
Or the doors over there or the doors over there.

Speaker 1 (15:30):
Fascinating. Yeah, I gotta ask you this, go for it.
So you're saying they gotta have their own jobs and
their own stuff and be able to hold things down. Yes,
they can't see nobody else, but you could go outside the.

Speaker 2 (15:44):
Flour or you can't. I can, but I'm good.

Speaker 1 (15:46):
But it has to be clear.

Speaker 3 (15:48):
Well for yeah, everything there is no just random hookups
here and there. Now everything is talked about, everything is discussed.

Speaker 1 (15:55):
What is it about you? What are you delivering? What
are you offering? That has made these four women for
that has made these four women say no, doubt.

Speaker 2 (16:07):
I'm in might be a better question for them.

Speaker 3 (16:10):
But if you had to guess, if I had to guess, yes,
honesty security.

Speaker 2 (16:18):
I've always felt.

Speaker 3 (16:19):
Like a woman will submit when you give her something
worthy of her submission. And in a lot of cases,
you know, men get caught up on a lot of
stupid stuff that makes them unworthy of submission.

Speaker 2 (16:29):
Like, you can't.

Speaker 3 (16:30):
You cannot force a woman to submit. It has to
be her choice you can, And I feel like when
you give a woman security, when you show her that
she's in a safe space with you physically as well
as emotionally as well as spiritually, when you give her
something to learn, when you give her something to look
up to, when you when you feed her in ways
that go beyond.

Speaker 2 (16:52):
Just the physical.

Speaker 3 (16:52):
Don't get me wrong, the physical counts too, But it
has to be more than that. It has to be
an emotional security. It has to be a spiritual security.
I have to feed your mind and your soul as
well as your body. And that's what I do.

Speaker 1 (17:04):
Do you think this is a time in your life
or you think you'll live the rest of your life
like this?

Speaker 3 (17:08):
I honestly don't know, because again, this wasn't exactly planned.
I look at it like this, Tomorrow's gone, right, I mean,
yesterday's gone, Tomorrow's not promised. All we genuinely have is
right now. Think about it. Even to think about what
happened yesterday, you got to go up here to consider
what might happen tomorrow. You got to go up here
in your mind, right, which means that none of these

(17:28):
things are real. They're gone, They're both only exist in
your brain. The only thing that is real is right
here and right now. So right here, right now, I'm
happy as hell, and I'm gonna rock this as long
as I'm allowed to rock this.

Speaker 1 (17:41):
If it works for you, it works for them, why
should anybody give a shit?

Speaker 2 (17:44):
That's the thing that's that's blowing my mind. People.

Speaker 1 (17:47):
Really, I think it's fear. I think people don't want
if they don't like, this lifestyle is not for them.
Maybe it's the fear that you're gonna make it look
so good that, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (17:59):
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (17:59):
Maybe it's fear that.

Speaker 3 (18:00):
Pushed back on don't know. I just feel like to
waste time. But which with with negative comments and all that.
I mean, mind you, people are going to do it regardless,
but I just I just really feel like it's a
huge waste of time because at the end of the day,
your comments is not changing anything.

Speaker 2 (18:15):
Over here, we sit around and laugh. What are they saying?

Speaker 3 (18:19):
I mean, you know, certain comedians have taken their shots,
you know, at the girls or whatever.

Speaker 2 (18:24):
People have called me a pimp. People have said that
the girls have low self esteem, which is why they
can do this.

Speaker 3 (18:29):
All of that, all of these things have been said,
and none of these things matter to any of us,
because again, at the end of the day, we will sit,
look at your comment, laugh, and then go have a
lovely dinner altogether smiling happy.

Speaker 1 (18:41):
Dinner for five is more expensive than dinner.

Speaker 2 (18:43):
For five can be expensive depending on where you go.

Speaker 1 (18:46):
They can you do vacations with just one of you.
Gotta go all five of you on the.

Speaker 3 (18:49):
No, no, no, no again, everybody gets the individuals everybody, So
when it's your moment, whatever you want to do in
your moment, we do.

Speaker 1 (18:55):
What happens. If one is on your nerves.

Speaker 2 (18:58):
Then that one is on my nerves.

Speaker 1 (19:01):
What happens If one is not working for you anymore.

Speaker 2 (19:04):
Then that one might have to go. At the end
of the day.

Speaker 3 (19:08):
The most important, the most important factor to all of
this is my happiness, because I'm the person that is
keeping the boat afloat okay. And the same way they
tell you in the airport with the mask, you got
to put on your own mask before you can help
anybody else put their mask on. What that basically means
that if you messed up, you can't help nobody else.
I have seven children that I have to maintain my

(19:28):
sanity for. Okay, the last thing I'm gonna do is
let you mess that up for them, because they come
before anybody else. So as long as you keeping me happy,
I'm gonna keep you happy. The day that that changes
is the day that the lineup might have to change.
And that's just what it is. And mind you, everybody
understands that. Everybody knows that I want you here, I
don't need you here.

Speaker 2 (19:50):
I would love for you to stay.

Speaker 1 (19:51):
Is this gonna be a reality show?

Speaker 4 (19:52):
No?

Speaker 2 (19:53):
Okay, absolutely not. No, no, no, no, no. That's another thing I'm against.

Speaker 3 (19:56):
I feel like, again, in any relationship, be it monogamous, polyamorous,
there's certain aspects of your relationship that you're supposed to
keep for yourself. You don't want people in your damn bedroom.
It's not their business.

Speaker 2 (20:06):
Nah.

Speaker 3 (20:07):
I'm gonna give you all the bits and pieces I
give y'all, and y'all gonna be all right with that
or you're not. Either way, that's that's that's what it is.
I'll need y'all in my full business.

Speaker 1 (20:14):
No, you're having a good time.

Speaker 2 (20:16):
I'm having a great time having a great retired No,
I mean, well not not with that.

Speaker 3 (20:23):
I mean, mind you, I'm a very very busy person.
There's a lot of energy to it right now.

Speaker 2 (20:28):
Mary J. Blige, legendary Mary J. Blige.

Speaker 3 (20:31):
Mario shouts to the boy Mario. Yes, Mario, we're actually
hidding MSG the tenth.

Speaker 1 (20:37):
Wait what was Mario just Mario was just here and
he was teaching me how to have tone. Oh, okay,
voice nice you gave Mario love you?

Speaker 2 (20:49):
Yes?

Speaker 1 (20:49):
Indeed, indeed, is Mario bow down to you for that?

Speaker 2 (20:53):
See it's it's it's definitely respect. Yes, definitely, I can
honestly say that.

Speaker 1 (20:58):
Because that is a change your life record.

Speaker 3 (21:00):
Our careers kind of started at the same time because
the deal that my deal at dev Jam was had
a lot to do with the Mario record a.

Speaker 2 (21:07):
Lot to do it, and it helped you as much
as Yeah. Yeah, so we both kind of, you know,
we both kind of grew up together through that record.

Speaker 1 (21:14):
And I'm sure we've talked about this. You've said this before,
but at no point you wanted to keep that record
for yourself, nah, Because.

Speaker 3 (21:19):
When I wrote it, I was I was just doing
a songwriter thing and I went to the studio that
week with Scott Storch for Mario specifically.

Speaker 2 (21:26):
Yea, so it was always his song.

Speaker 1 (21:28):
That song still hits that this is still knocks, It's
still so good.

Speaker 3 (21:31):
Yeah, man, we did the La show, got the opportunity
to perform it on stage together for the first time
ever in life, which is weird because we've been on like,
oh damn, We've been on like damn the three tours
together and we've never done that before.

Speaker 2 (21:42):
Wow, there was a moment that was.

Speaker 1 (21:44):
I don't know how I missed that. It's a video
on that out. Yeah, yeah, I gotta see that.

Speaker 2 (21:48):
It was the definite moment.

Speaker 1 (21:49):
So wait, are you two doing all the dates with
Mary or just some dates?

Speaker 2 (21:52):
I think they just added two or three dates on
the end that I don't think we're part of. But
everything else.

Speaker 1 (21:56):
Yeah, you've been on tour, So how's a tour been.
I haven't been to a show.

Speaker 2 (22:01):
I have to.

Speaker 3 (22:02):
It's one of them tours where you're literally gonna sing
every damn song of course, you know what I mean.

Speaker 2 (22:07):
You know every song is being played.

Speaker 3 (22:10):
Uh, you gotta you gotta show up early because you
got to get Mario set.

Speaker 2 (22:13):
You know that that's the one.

Speaker 3 (22:15):
If there's anything to complain about this tour for me personally,
is that they got Mario up there a little early,
you know what I mean, because that dude, that's a
voice that you need to hear that that man can
sing now sings one of the voices in music, and
he got hits. Yeah, so show up early so that
you get the full experience. You get Mario said, you
get my set, and of course the.

Speaker 1 (22:32):
Garden show on Friday tomorrow tomorrow, the show at the Garden.

Speaker 3 (22:37):
But is Mario going on Mario doors open at six.
I think Mario's on at seven. I hit at seven
forty five and then and then the rest is Mary
on through amazing.

Speaker 1 (22:47):
Have you spent time with Mary before this, like significant time?

Speaker 2 (22:50):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (22:50):
Yeah, we've done the whole sessions before Mary is is
the thing about Mary is that it's it's gonna be
You're gonna laugh, right, You're.

Speaker 2 (22:58):
Gonna be good.

Speaker 1 (22:59):
You're gonna listen to class.

Speaker 3 (23:00):
Music, gonna listen to classic music, and you're gonna have
a life conversation where you might cry and it is
all good.

Speaker 2 (23:06):
But it's but it's all good.

Speaker 3 (23:07):
It's like that family member you love going over the
house because you know that those four things are going.

Speaker 1 (23:11):
To Mary had an opinion about your new lifestyle or
you talked to her about that at all.

Speaker 2 (23:16):
We haven't had that discussion.

Speaker 1 (23:17):
Really.

Speaker 3 (23:17):
I'm surprised, mind you. She's met she's met one of
two of them. You know, they've been on the tour,
and she's always cordial. You know she's gonna be cortial,
she's gonna be married. But nah, she hasn't. I'd honestly
be interested to see what she thought.

Speaker 1 (23:27):
I would too.

Speaker 2 (23:28):
I might have to ask her.

Speaker 1 (23:29):
YEA, Mary seen a lot of things.

Speaker 3 (23:31):
Mary has Mary. Mary has seen a lot of things.
Mary has survived a lot of things. And from what
I from from what I can see, Mary is exceptionally
happy right now, which is which is always.

Speaker 2 (23:42):
A good thing.

Speaker 1 (23:43):
She is happy, she's in she's in good form right now. Yeah, yeah,
I love that for her. What's your favorite part of
the show. Give us your favorite moment from each of
your sets.

Speaker 2 (23:53):
On the show.

Speaker 3 (23:54):
Mario said, you know, Mario has two very beautiful, very
very talented dancers with him, but in my personal opinion,
he don't need them, because again, I just love to
hear that.

Speaker 2 (24:04):
Dude, sing like I tell them all the time.

Speaker 3 (24:06):
Bro, you can literally stand in one spot and just
sing your damn song and you're gonna get the same
response that I get with eight girls on stage with me.
Like it's really I have eight beautiful women my misrights.
Shout out to my mis rights. Mary set. I don't
I don't want to give too much away. You have
to see it like that. There's this this set piece.

Speaker 2 (24:26):
That she has on the stage, and it's you know,
I can't give it away. I can't. You gotta come
see it. You gotta come see it. But I mean Mary, honestly,
it's just singing along with Mary.

Speaker 3 (24:35):
That's the funniest part of her set because again, you know,
every single song this song comes on, you remember where
you was the first time you heard it, or you
remember that that person he was dealing with and that
song helped or whatever. It's just it's just one of
those tours whereas it's nostalgic.

Speaker 1 (24:50):
You know what I mean, What about your set?

Speaker 2 (24:51):
My set?

Speaker 3 (24:53):
Man just beginning to end, man, because it's like, so okay,
so I wear these things called in ears on the
stage right years or what allow me to hear myself
because you know that the music and the crowd is
really loud. But what I like to do is pop
one of the in ears out so that I can
hear the crowd singing with me.

Speaker 2 (25:10):
Like, that's that's what I love.

Speaker 1 (25:11):
What are they singing the loudest?

Speaker 2 (25:12):
Oh? Man?

Speaker 3 (25:14):
Probably definitely so sick. That's that's definitely a moment closer
as a moment sick.

Speaker 1 (25:20):
Let me talk about so sick. Man, it just hits
all the time. You got so many songs that hit
just forever though.

Speaker 3 (25:26):
You know what now that I'm that, I'm that I'm
here and we're talking about this, Uh, there's a so
sick moment that we shared that will never ever die.

Speaker 2 (25:34):
Do you remember it.

Speaker 3 (25:36):
Was a I think it was a birthday party for
you for me. Yes, I had just came out. I
just came out as an artist and they had me
come out as a surprise.

Speaker 4 (25:45):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (25:46):
We was at some theater right and I walked out
on the stage. And what I didn't know is that
there's a stage, and there was an orchestra pit in
front of the stage, and there was a cover over
the orchestra pit.

Speaker 2 (25:56):
But there's like a like a foot long slip that
was not a little slip. Yeah, I walked out. Man.
They said, everybody show your love for Neo.

Speaker 1 (26:07):
Do do Do Do do.

Speaker 3 (26:08):
Soon And I saw down into the stage to the
point where you could only see my head in my arm.
They literally had to come and pull me up out
of the hole. And yeah, there was no plan that off.
I said, I let's let's let's try again, let's try
it again. It wasn't nothing that can do. Yeah, that
would that that will live in my brain forever.

Speaker 1 (26:27):
This is what you think of when you think of me,
you think of that moment.

Speaker 2 (26:29):
I mean, it can never die. It can never die.

Speaker 1 (26:33):
I'm so sorry.

Speaker 2 (26:34):
All good, it's all good. Me for who else but
you though it's all good.

Speaker 1 (26:39):
I mean, you know, the history is real. What else?

Speaker 2 (26:43):
What else?

Speaker 1 (26:43):
Hits all of them?

Speaker 2 (26:44):
So I said, first to play My Mind was the
first player song.

Speaker 1 (26:47):
You know why because Jay was that. For people that
don't know, Jay was the president of the Deaf Jam
at the time, and I wasn't doing Afternoon Drive. And
I remember Jay was really passionate about you. He was
like yo, and he told me too, He's like, yo,
I'm gonna send you this song. And it wasn't so
it was. It wasn't so sick. It was stay with
p D Crack. I love Peter Craig by the way
shouts to PD crack, but he's like, I'm gonna send

(27:07):
you this, but there's gonna be more coming, but you're
gonna want to be first on this artist. And the
way he said it to me, I just believed him
because he never really did. He didn't do that a lot.
He wasn't like that, and he was like, I'm gonna
send you something and you're gonna want to be first
on the trust me.

Speaker 3 (27:20):
Jay held me down my first moment j actually came
with me, which was dope.

Speaker 2 (27:26):
Like like it was.

Speaker 3 (27:27):
It was dope coming from the situation that I had
prior to def Jam. I was over Columbia Records and
it was just very much a uh, who you are
is not good enough, we need you to be this
person type situation.

Speaker 2 (27:38):
So then when I got over to dev Jam and.

Speaker 3 (27:40):
Just all of the support from the from from the
whole team, like like Jay didn't have to walk me
out on this one oh six and Park stage, he
didn't have to do that, but the fact that he did,
like shouts jz MA, and then what he was doing
behind the scenes.

Speaker 1 (27:53):
I got that call. A lot of people got that call.

Speaker 2 (27:55):
Yeah, he was right, he was I.

Speaker 1 (27:57):
Just reacted fast. I played the record first. He was like,
you don't want the played this, but I was like,
I'm gonna play first.

Speaker 2 (28:01):
Here it is grateful. Oh. We actually start my set
with that with Oh, that's dope.

Speaker 1 (28:07):
You stay. And then of course, right after that, So
Sick came out and it was a big smash. What
was after So Sick?

Speaker 3 (28:14):
I think after So Sick we went When You're Mad,
which I didn't agree with. That was the first time
me and La Reid disagreed. I wanted to I want
a Mirror to be the next season, and they was like, nah,
it's too sexual. We don't want we don't want to
do it like that. We want to keep it classy.
And I'm like, man, I'm telling you all, this is the.

Speaker 2 (28:29):
One I remember. You know what. I don't know what
concert it was.

Speaker 3 (28:33):
It might have been like the Scream Towards something, but
we would performed Mirror and a lot of the execs
came out to the show and they watched us perform
Mirror and came backstage afterward. It was like, you know what, yeah,
you might have been right. You probably should have.

Speaker 1 (28:45):
Been with mirror like, it's all good what you love
when you're right, I really do It was do you?

Speaker 2 (28:52):
No, no, no no, do you was the.

Speaker 3 (28:55):
Next album, second album, It was yeah, because we went
because of you?

Speaker 1 (28:59):
And then let me tell you that do you though?

Speaker 2 (29:02):
Are you kidding?

Speaker 4 (29:04):
Come on, everybody, We're terrible said for the remixes, do you?

Speaker 1 (29:15):
Oh that's right.

Speaker 2 (29:16):
Yeah, yeah, she's one of the first times we worked together.
She jumps on that remix. You know you cut.

Speaker 1 (29:21):
Your catalog is vicious, some special. Yeah, you could afford
girlfriends another catalog. That catalogue is I mean that catalog
is vicious. Indeed, Airlfriends can be supported on the Neo publishing.

Speaker 2 (29:39):
Four girlfriends, seven children, my mam and my sister. Yeah. Yeah,
the boat is big, but we floating comfortable though. We're good. Good.

Speaker 1 (29:47):
It's a lot of pressure that you're good.

Speaker 2 (29:50):
You got this.

Speaker 1 (29:50):
Let's see what's happening in Neil's real life right now.
He did a little questionnaire. In real life questionnaire. The
last thing in Neil eight was a snicker bar. Yeah
that is that's not good.

Speaker 3 (30:01):
I had a long night in the early morning and
I just grabbed the snakelbars real quick and ran out
before we started.

Speaker 1 (30:06):
Okay, you know I enjoyed snicker. What is your go
to karaoke song?

Speaker 2 (30:12):
Yeah, I'm I'm a banned from all karaoke.

Speaker 1 (30:15):
What do you mean your band?

Speaker 2 (30:16):
It's a personal band. I banned myself.

Speaker 3 (30:20):
I just feel like anybody that can really sing karaoke
is not for you because you get on stage and
you sing well and you look.

Speaker 2 (30:25):
Like a cornball. I hate it. I hate it. I
hate it.

Speaker 3 (30:28):
If you can actually sing, do not do carry Okay, Okay,
you look corny up there, blowing your heart out, and
everybody's like, well, that's not what this is for.

Speaker 2 (30:38):
Come on, man, so don't. I don't do karaoke.

Speaker 3 (30:40):
The last time you did it, The last time I
did it, I was actually in Japan and it was
I mean, mind you, it was. I was received well,
but I personally felt corny because it's like I was
the only person that could actually sing.

Speaker 2 (30:52):
You would performing for free basically, well I mean yeah,
but but but other than that, and I just just
I was singing well well then everybody else wasn't. And
I'm like, okay, yeah, that look cheesy.

Speaker 1 (31:02):
What did you sing?

Speaker 2 (31:03):
What did I sing?

Speaker 3 (31:05):
It wasn't a neo song because that everybody else sang
neo songs, which was kind of which was kind of cool.

Speaker 2 (31:11):
What did I do? I think it was. I think
it was a Drew Hill song R and B. Yeah,
it was definitely an R and B record.

Speaker 1 (31:18):
Now, what is your superpower? Levitation?

Speaker 2 (31:21):
Oh?

Speaker 3 (31:21):
Yeah, man, i'might as hell what I mean because I'm
not bogged down by opinions. I'm not bogged down by
the need for validation from strangers. I'm not bogged down
by lies and deceit. I'll float around his room right now.

Speaker 2 (31:34):
Damn. That's how I feel. That is how I feel.

Speaker 1 (31:37):
Yeah, I'm going to introduce you to somebody who was
here recently. He actually knows how to levitate people.

Speaker 2 (31:41):
Maybe maybe he could do.

Speaker 3 (31:42):
That with I don't need his help. I got you,
got it. I might teach him some things.

Speaker 1 (31:47):
Tell me who is your celebrity crush, Scarlet Johanson Scarle Ohanson.

Speaker 3 (31:52):
Yes, that is one of the flies white women on
the face of the planet. In my personal opinion, have
you bet? I have not, And if you did, I
would definitely tell her how I feel about her. Yes, Scarlet,
I let your boy. I let your boy.

Speaker 1 (32:05):
Now if you met somebody, is there room for a
fifth if it was Scarlet Johanson.

Speaker 3 (32:12):
Yeah, I don't think anyone, and I don't think anyone
in the circle would have posted to Scarlet your hands
and on your team. Not at all, Not at all. Yeah,
I'll say this again. The four wasn't planned, you know,
so I don't.

Speaker 2 (32:23):
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (32:24):
I don't know if I can make plans. If I
could dead or or say that anything would happen. It
would be a conversation. Yeah, it'd be a conversa.

Speaker 1 (32:32):
Everybody has to agree.

Speaker 2 (32:33):
Everybody has to agree. Got it?

Speaker 1 (32:35):
What is your favorite Scarlet or Hanson movie?

Speaker 3 (32:37):
Uh?

Speaker 2 (32:38):
You know what?

Speaker 3 (32:38):
When she joined a Marvel universe, I suddenly got more
interested in the Marvel universe.

Speaker 2 (32:43):
Yeah. Her is a black widow. Her is black widow. Yeah, trouble,
trouble love you.

Speaker 1 (32:50):
You are relentless, You like your appetite. It's just you
can't be satisfied.

Speaker 2 (32:54):
Hey, come on, we need to live happy.

Speaker 1 (32:58):
What is one thing on your bucket list to work
with Stevie Wonder? Yes, yes, it is not the song
that you would make for Stevie Wonder.

Speaker 2 (33:07):
I can imagine what it might be.

Speaker 1 (33:09):
What would it sound like, what would it be called?

Speaker 2 (33:12):
I do not know.

Speaker 3 (33:14):
That's part of the beauty of it. I just know
that it would be absolutely amazing. So you know, I
have my five kings that the five artists that that
I feel like make up the whole neo genetics, right, Prince,
Michael Jackson, Stevie Wonder, Sammy Davis Junior, Marvin Gaye. Of course,
with all those names, Stevie is the last one still here.
So yeah, mister Wonder, whenever you get a minute, man,

(33:34):
let's let's sit down and let's let's create some magic.

Speaker 2 (33:37):
Please.

Speaker 1 (33:37):
Wow, Where would you start though, What would you like?

Speaker 3 (33:41):
What is the process of I would if I mean,
if I had control the situation, I just have him
sit at a piano and just riff and we just
just create from there. You know, you know that man
is a magician with a piano, magician with a few
different three different instruments.

Speaker 1 (33:55):
But yeah, he also enjoys the ladies. Mister Wonder, I've heard.

Speaker 2 (34:00):
Yeah, we have more things in common than we even know.

Speaker 1 (34:03):
That could be your song.

Speaker 2 (34:04):
Hey, it's not not a bad thing.

Speaker 1 (34:06):
Like an endless love type of song.

Speaker 2 (34:08):
Might have heard it your first stage.

Speaker 3 (34:10):
Andrew Rotinez just gave me and Stevie Wonder the song title,
the song concept.

Speaker 2 (34:15):
I like it.

Speaker 1 (34:16):
I like it about honesty.

Speaker 2 (34:18):
Indeed and love indeed.

Speaker 1 (34:20):
What is your pet? Peeve trying too hard?

Speaker 2 (34:22):
Word? Yeah? Man?

Speaker 3 (34:24):
Like, I feel like anything that's genuinely you requires very
little effort, you know what I'm saying. And I've been
into that a lot as of late. You know, I've
come across a lot of young artists who are asking me,
like what the secret to longevity is and all of that,
And I tell them all the time, the you that
you are when ain't nobody looking, that's the you that
you need to nurture. That's the person you need to nurture,

(34:45):
because that is genuinely your superpower. God made one of you.
There's only you. There's no other you. Can nobody be
you better than you. So figure out what that you
is and nurture that. Anything that you have to step
out of yourself to be, or anything that somebody can
talk you out of, wasn't you to begin with, Like
don't don't do that, don't don't.

Speaker 2 (35:04):
Let that happen?

Speaker 1 (35:07):
Bars?

Speaker 2 (35:08):
Yeah, man, Neil.

Speaker 1 (35:09):
Got them bars. I noticed Neil that lately you have
been golfing. Yes, how long has this been? Do you
know that I'm a golfer.

Speaker 2 (35:19):
I did not know that.

Speaker 1 (35:20):
I've been golfing for about three years, a little less
than three years.

Speaker 2 (35:23):
Okay, so you got so you got some skill. Then
I'm okay, I know. No.

Speaker 1 (35:29):
So I just golfed the ninety two. It is my
lowest score so far.

Speaker 2 (35:32):
That is not bad at all.

Speaker 1 (35:34):
No, it's not bad at all.

Speaker 2 (35:35):
It's actually very very good. But you know, I'm not
gonna tell you my score.

Speaker 1 (35:38):
On a bad day, it could go twenty points.

Speaker 2 (35:41):
That's the beauty of the game.

Speaker 1 (35:44):
So far. It was a ninety two.

Speaker 2 (35:45):
So far, dope.

Speaker 3 (35:46):
So I got some stuff I gotta send you in
like I gotta send you some some Francis so logo.

Speaker 1 (35:50):
So you got merch and you got.

Speaker 2 (35:52):
I created a line. I created line.

Speaker 1 (35:54):
But can you actually golf?

Speaker 3 (35:56):
I'm okay, So you know as well as I do
that golf one of them game where you got to
play for.

Speaker 2 (36:01):
A few years before you can consent. Yes, yes, I've
been at a strong nine months. Oh my god, yeah,
I'm not.

Speaker 1 (36:10):
I'm have you taking lessons?

Speaker 3 (36:12):
I have I have taken some lessons. My drive is
on point. Okay, my drive is on point. My short
game is complete.

Speaker 2 (36:18):
Trash trash, got it utter trash. Yah, Yeah, we're not
we're not putting. Well, I'm gonna take it.

Speaker 1 (36:23):
You know, when you're next time you're in New York,
come coming in the weather. It's good.

Speaker 2 (36:27):
Come come come down. I'm about to do a celebrity
golf tournament.

Speaker 1 (36:30):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (36:31):
Where is that April twenty eighth in Atlanta, Georgia Eagles
Landing Country Club. You should pull up olago sport dot
com for anybody else that want to pull up and play,
or if you just want to pull up and check
it out. It's for a good cause. A portion of
the proceeds go to the Oasis Academy, which is for
gifted orphans. So it's a good time for a good cause. Also,
if you want to check out the clothing line, Francis
Olago O l O g O olagosport dot com and

(36:54):
it's everything from shoes to hats, clothes, we got bags,
we just got into hardware.

Speaker 2 (36:59):
We're doing club and balls and everything now.

Speaker 1 (37:01):
So we got it all jumped in the deep end.
And you're not saying and you jumped in the deep water.

Speaker 2 (37:05):
Listen, I said, if I'm gonna be out here swinging
at nothing because you swing hard and the ball is
right there. Okay, it's very embarrassing.

Speaker 1 (37:13):
I took Brittany for the first time the other day.

Speaker 2 (37:15):
Man, I said, if I'm an do this, let me
let me at least look like something while I'm doing it.

Speaker 1 (37:18):
You started the whole business.

Speaker 2 (37:20):
Started business. Why not? Why not women's line yet? Or no,
it's coming, it's coming. Everything is in the You got
with the.

Speaker 1 (37:26):
Ladies because you know it's only a foursome. You can't
take five month out there.

Speaker 2 (37:30):
Unless you can. Well, maybe they make exceptions with me.
We all be out there, we together, Yeah, I mean,
you know, into five something guy out there.

Speaker 1 (37:41):
It's changing the rules of golf.

Speaker 2 (37:42):
It's me and my pair of man. We were rocking,
all right.

Speaker 1 (37:47):
What else do people need to know? What's that? What's
in the in the front?

Speaker 2 (37:50):
What's the damn? We ran out? Okay?

Speaker 3 (37:53):
So in the name of expanding on my my portfolio.
So I'm in the candy business now, Okay, some kind
of candy. It's a special candy, right, it's a lollipop.
There's a button on the base of the lollipop. Right,
you push the button, put the lollipop in your mouth,
you bite down on it, and you can hear my
song playing in your head.

Speaker 2 (38:11):
That is absolutely not seen this.

Speaker 1 (38:14):
This is crazy town.

Speaker 2 (38:15):
Yeah, it's different. It's different, but.

Speaker 1 (38:18):
Got you high, like it's like a mush Is it
a mushroom pop special? Pop special? Somebody's getting high?

Speaker 2 (38:25):
All right, let's listen.

Speaker 1 (38:26):
Letsten evolve into that.

Speaker 3 (38:29):
We may evolve into who knows what, but as of
right now, yes, it is no music playing.

Speaker 1 (38:34):
You think the music is playing because you're high.

Speaker 3 (38:36):
I mean, I mean it evibrates people and ask well,
what do you do?

Speaker 2 (38:40):
What do you do? What he wants?

Speaker 3 (38:41):
The candy is going. I'm like, that's your business. You
nothing to do with that. Okay, but it's called tasty sounds,
music pops and as of right now, the Lincoln in
my bio on I g But we're getting it to
where everywhere that you get candy, you can you can
find these. So yeah, coming from I'm gonna have something, since.

Speaker 1 (38:58):
You please, we want to try it.

Speaker 2 (39:00):
Yes, indeed, set us some golf calls too, because we
got you golf streets. It's gonna be good. Yes, and
the tour is still rolling. Listen.

Speaker 3 (39:08):
If we ain't touched your city yet, check also Lincoln
in my bio for that. Check the cities that we're at.
You definitely need to make it out to one of
these shows, and you need to make you gotta make it.

Speaker 1 (39:17):
One hundred percent. I'm going to make it out.

Speaker 3 (39:19):
If I got to buy you a plane ticket somewhere,
I'm not serious, because.

Speaker 1 (39:22):
You are a guy who tells the truth, I believe
I will do. I'm going to send you flight information
let me know, and I'm going to be there first class.
I'm I'm one hundred percent make one.

Speaker 2 (39:31):
I can't wait. I can't wait.

Speaker 1 (39:33):
All right, go see the tour, Go get the golf
close you.

Speaker 2 (39:35):
Know what I mean, check me out and guy all
over the place.

Speaker 1 (39:40):
Love you one time for Neo in the buildings and yeah,
spot on the five point one