November 7, 2024 • 32 mins
The weekly podcast from The Lynch & Taco Morning Show on 101one WJRR in Orlando
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
All right, hey there, welcome to another episode of Off
the Air, the weekly podcast from the Lynch and Taco
Show at one O one one w j R. I'm
Pat Lynch, Taco Bob across the console from me as always.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
Good morning, Ready for a little fun time here with
Matt from Trivia and then out to Thursday night football later.
Speaker 1 (00:18):
Hey, by the way, good job on the show this morning.
Thank you very much. You throwback tunes that you learned
now are considered classic rock tunes because they're twenty plus
years old.
Speaker 3 (00:28):
Well, it's my mind, man, I can't believe twenty years
Is this the benchmark of classic rock now?
Speaker 1 (00:32):
I think we need to change that. It's no, it's
it's welcome to you know, the years start clicking by, man.
Speaker 3 (00:40):
Then what would we call like Zeppelin? Like, what's that
ben Zeppelin? Are those now goldies?
Speaker 1 (00:45):
I really want to get, if you really want to get,
we're talking about this on air when he played something
in the way, I said that there was some music
site that just did a survey on saddist classic rock
songs that came in as the saddest classic rock song.
And I had the same reaction you did. I still
have a hard time embracing the concept that bands like
Nirvana and Alison Shanes and Arim could be considered classic rock.
(01:08):
They just it's not because.
Speaker 3 (01:10):
What do we call the classic rock bands?
Speaker 1 (01:12):
Then they too are still classic rock to a degree.
If you're like the big arena rock bands of the
seventies and early, definitely still classic rock. But if you
start to back up and you get into like the
early early Stones, early early uh, you know, the Beatles
and stuff, and now you're going into oldies. Wow, it's weird, right,
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that is very weird.
Speaker 2 (01:34):
What it comes down to is that we're all getting old.
Speaker 1 (01:36):
That's what's scary. But to really elaborate here, there is
there's a new form of classic rock that focuses on
the more updated timeline. So it's like nineties and other
there's you've got seventies based classic rock, you've got eighties
based classic rock, and nineties and early two thousands based.
Speaker 3 (01:55):
So it's fills in minds that two thousands is considered
classic rocks. But again it's all coming back. You see
kids now they're dressing like it's nineteen ninety eight.
Speaker 1 (02:02):
Again.
Speaker 3 (02:02):
Yeah, it's it's all you know, it's all cyclical it's
always mm hmm.
Speaker 1 (02:07):
I say, what's old, it's new again. And TikTok's the
perfect example where you see this time and time again
where somebody discovers something and you know, puts it out
there and everybody's like, oh my god, yeah, and everybody
who's you know, been here for more than two cups
of coffee goes yeah, well yeah, yeah we have, and
there's nothing wrong with that. Now. I love seeing my
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my kid.
Speaker 2 (02:29):
You walk into my both rooms, actually my older ones
at school right now, but you walk into the younger
one's room and she has you know, Jani's chopping boss out,
but she can.
Speaker 1 (02:39):
Name the song.
Speaker 3 (02:39):
That's awesome because like when they dig into the history,
when kids dig, like if they find you know, because
like TikTok metal stuff, which is kind of like quote metal,
kids will get into it through that. I just hope
they dig in like oh where does this come from,
and not just sit there like it's It's like, as
a lifelong metal head geek, I've always been like a
find a favorite band that's semi modern, I'll find out
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influenced them. And that's what I always encourage people. Do
you find a favorite band, dig backwards.
Speaker 1 (03:04):
Which band sent you down the metal path? I mean,
obviously you're you're a tad younger than us. You came
in and the height of when grunge was just that
you were in that sweet spot age where you're really impressionable.
Speaker 3 (03:17):
I didn't hear metal until nineteen ninety eight, and that
was the black album My Metallica, So ninety eight hearing
an album from ninety one right, And then I kind
of got into Metallica backwards. I went from black album
to like s and m Garage, Load Reload, Then I
went backwards, but the gateway was Metallica and then Mega,
Death Slayer, Pantera, the Testament, so obviously the ones that
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are the main gateway drug for everybody. But then I
got into extreme metal, so death metal, black metal I
found next, and then the thing called melodic death metal.
So death metall be cannibal corpse, black metal will be
things like Deomon War here, but melodic death metal would
be things like at the Gates.
Speaker 1 (03:52):
From the nineties, and there.
Speaker 3 (03:52):
Was a scene of music out of Gothenburg, Sweden called
the Gothenburg style or melodic death metal. It's a mixture
of sweetish traditional folk, new way of British heavy metal
like Iron Maide in Black Sabbath, and then death metal
by way of either Stockholm, Sweden or Tampa Floor to
Tampa Flora to being one of the other death metal
capitals of the world. So a lot of death metal
was those three things in one. When I discovered that,
it really started shifting Trivium in a different direction. I said, oh,
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this is really cool to hear such intense extreme music
that is so melodic at the same time. Records I
would recommend, like Inflames, the Gesture, Race at the Gate,
Slaughter of the Soul. Those are probably two really good
ones to start with. After that, I discovered metalcore by
way of the German bands like Heaven Shall Burn and Caliban,
and I was like, oh, if I mixed these styles metal,
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a lot of death metal and metal core, this will
sound pretty cool. So that's what Trivium became. It's those
three things, and then it's just kept going from there.
Speaker 1 (04:43):
Now that also, with the end result of what you
just described, all that stuff being fed into your ears
and inspiring you to create your own band has opened
up the door to you guys playing with a whole
slew of these legacy bands all around the world. It's amazing.
Speaker 3 (05:03):
We've been able to with Iron Maiden twice, once in Europe,
once in the States. Toured with Metallic on festivals toward
Black Sabbath, and Iron Maiden. On the oz Fest that
the Azzi camp tried to get everyone to egg Iron Maiden,
and I remember we were asked like, hey, will you
egg Garden Maiden, Like why the hell would we do that?
And we're like, actually one of the only few bands
that refused to do it. Yeah, And the rest of
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the tour, we put on Iron Maiden shirts every single
day and played the Trooper every single day in our stage,
and we'd have all the all like I don't know
who they were, but there are people in their camp
that would mess with us. They'd like drive their golf
carts and get dust in our eyes. They'd bully us
and laugh at us when we gave them catering and
stuff like that. It was like stupid high school stuff.
Speaker 1 (05:39):
Yeah, and we also had to.
Speaker 3 (05:40):
Buy on to get an os us. We had to
pay thirty thousand dollars as a van band to go
play oz Fest play at nine in the morning and
then get bullied after defending one of our favorite bands. Really, yes,
it was like I think they're the two bands had
the fixed slots on the side stage probably got paid.
Everyone below had to buy on, so you had to
buy on.
Speaker 1 (05:57):
That is crazy.
Speaker 2 (05:58):
I'd never yeh.
Speaker 3 (05:59):
I bet you'll say though that looking back, it was
totally worth it. It was worth it was worth it,
and I love that I'm able to. I remember we
heard that we'd be we'd be allowed to maybe play
at Ozfest in the future if we apologized for not
not getting We're like, yeah, that's not gonna happen.
Speaker 1 (06:17):
Yes, sorry, dude, you know that. In that going back
to the original concept of oz Fest was to expose
these up and coming new bands, and then os Fest
became something else, and then it really didn't happen on
a regular touring basis, and it eventually kind.
Speaker 3 (06:34):
Of I think the touring festival is a really difficult
thing to pull off in the States. I think kind
of anywhere, the touring festival. I wish it worked because
we we were lucky to do such a fantastic os
festivon that os Fest.
Speaker 1 (06:46):
Who was on it?
Speaker 3 (06:47):
Maiden Sabbath, uh massed On, kill Switch, Engage, Black Dahlia, Murder,
Trivium Soil Work, Arch Enemy in Flames. It was an
insane It was probably one of the greatest lineups ever.
So that was amazing. A couple of Mayhems we do
were amazing, and then they started kind of the lineup
were the same. I think the Destination festival really works well.
I think like the one off in specific places works.
Speaker 1 (07:08):
Like Danny Wimmer shows with Rockville and stuff or just
those work.
Speaker 3 (07:13):
It's yeah, it's like like the European model, like the
Vakan open air rock and ring rock and park download,
like you make people come to the festival. So it's
really great because I think when it travels it's difficult
because we have more than four bands in the States.
Speaker 1 (07:25):
You figure.
Speaker 3 (07:26):
I figure even myself now as a parent of twins,
it's like if I want to go to a show, childcare,
babysitters the babysitter and know how to put the kids asleep, food, parking,
like you think about all these things. You think about
how difficult this is. But it's so interesting because I'll
look at festivals in Europe and people camp out for
five to seven days. Well they'll you know, they've got
more vacation days than we all do you'd rather be
able to take like two three weeks off to go
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to a festival, which is amazing. So I think the
touring festival at the moment isn't working in the States.
Speaker 1 (07:53):
And it's just seems some of these, even the established
festivals that aren't touring stopping there's they're either like really
really successful or for whatever reasons, they're like it's that's
that's just it.
Speaker 3 (08:08):
Yeah, because I heard I heard I don't know how
it's soon now, but I heard like Sick New World
sold out minutes last year. Unless year's kind of slowing
down right, right, it's been while we were young was huge.
I think people are liking the nostalgia, right. I think
maybe people want a theme for some things, like nostalgia.
Was that when while we were or when we were young?
Speaker 1 (08:25):
Well, I tell you, and that's I'll use Rockville Welcome
to Rockville as the local example here. You know, the
last few years we've been out there, I can't tell
you how many people I've just meeting who have come
here from around the world who are just like, my god, this.
Speaker 3 (08:40):
That's that's how you build a great festival. Crazy, you
build a great festival. You build a great experience for
the the audience and the bands, and it can grow
from there.
Speaker 2 (08:48):
Yeah, we were in line, sorry, Matt. And by the way,
Matt Matt Heavy from a Trivium's with us today on
the off their podcast. So we were in line and
in front of us because my body said, you hear
the accent and then you hear this.
Speaker 4 (09:02):
In front of us was somebody from France, and then
behind us was somebody from I think it was like
Poland or something, and then somebody else two backs said
oh yeah from what And I.
Speaker 2 (09:14):
Was just going, it's amazing. I'm from Orlando. I'm like,
you know, forty miles.
Speaker 3 (09:20):
I feel like metal culture has always been about like
people wanting to get just like you know, the tribe. Yeah,
the festivals here is kind of like fifty to fifty
rock metal or maybe like seventy five rock twenty five
percent metal. I feel like the metal community has always
been about traveling internationally and going to the thing like
when we play Vadking, it's such a mixed audience. So
what I'll do is I'll say like, hello, how are you,
and maybe like ten of the different languages, and you'll
get different pockets of the audience all cheering.
Speaker 1 (09:41):
It's really cool.
Speaker 2 (09:41):
That's cool.
Speaker 1 (09:42):
I think that you can do that. I think we
might have chatted about this a little bit last year
when you were here. That festival, that's one I really
would like to go to on the bucket list in
that tiny little town. And that is there amazing. That
is their revenue source for the year.
Speaker 3 (10:00):
Incredible, and it's such a safe amazing. It's like a
it's like a theme park for metal heads.
Speaker 1 (10:05):
Like you go that.
Speaker 3 (10:06):
There's like Future World, there's like pass World. There's like
Game of Thrones when we walk around and like food
around the themes and all these different places you can go.
There's like a Junkyard World, looks like Matt Max. And
then they'll have like I don't know what, five to
seven stages of just incredible bands. They don't need anything
mainstream to sell it out, sells out in minutes.
Speaker 1 (10:21):
All right, to change gears here. Just before we started,
I cut Taco and Matt off from a conversation they
were having. Apparently the two have suffered similar injuries and
are rehabbing using I was intrigued by this. You were
moving muscles around inside your abdomen or something. And pushing
them into your Explain what's going on here? Give it
what happened with you, Matt recently? Here?
Speaker 3 (10:43):
Okay, so it's post hurricane and I was pulling everything
back out after putting everything away that could have been
like a flying hazard.
Speaker 1 (10:49):
And this is Milton that was here. Yeah, yeah, and
there made.
Speaker 3 (10:51):
This giant cactus plant that actually once when my daughter
was like maybe four and a half or five, it
got caught up in a tent that my wife was
lifting and the cactus was falling over. My daughter's first
institute was to save the tile. She's like, I don't
want the tile gard so she went up to block
the cactus to save our tile, and it landed on
and she got staed by like a million different things.
(11:13):
She didn't cry much, but it was like, man, so
the same cactus plan. I tried to lift it up,
and I had great form. I mean, I'm like you
always making sure. My former was going on trying to
get out of the windfield. And I felt this tear
in my upper lat and I'm like, oh no, and
I had to still move, so so I kept moving anyway,
just kind of babing that a little bit. Next day,
I was like, I'm gonna go to so I'll be fine.
I'm just gonna watch this back lat trying to pass
the opponent's guard, and I feel this hot pull in
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my lower left back. I was like, oh no, was
hernade of my disk in my twenties with leg presses,
No one should ever do like presses. They're terrible, the
ones that you're laying back. Yeah, you could pop your spine.
I stopped doing those. Yeah awful, So I thought it
was that gonna. I'm gonna have to stop doing this,
and then I started freaking out, and then it kept
getting worse and worse, shooting pains the left leg from
next like three to five nights not able to sleep.
Speaker 2 (11:56):
Was it because you were baby in the lat?
Speaker 1 (11:58):
Yes?
Speaker 2 (11:58):
And then that caused you Just it's like if you
ever hurt knee and your limping and then your other knee.
Speaker 1 (12:03):
Because the body will compensate. So up here was injured.
Speaker 3 (12:05):
So they're pulled, and so then I accupunture, Cairo, cryo, massage, orthopedic,
the works, just doing everything, trying to figure it out,
and the AUTHO thinks because the MRI shows I've got
like five or six her needed discs and it's jiu jitsu.
Speaker 1 (12:19):
I keep trying, but.
Speaker 3 (12:20):
That's just what happens, but only one's really bad. I
started noticing that, like, this pain is very specific, and
if I push in this trigger point and my lower
so as on my back, I feel it in the
front so as. And I was like, oh, I started
looking at these diagrams. I've been reading non stop medical diagrams.
My wife just got her yoga's teacher certification too, so
she needs learned all about muscle anatomy and what links
to what I was like, Oh wow, this injury is
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part of the illeo lumbar ligament. That's the thing that's
attaches to the bony part in the back of your hip,
so right above that is super inflamed. And when I
push on that, I feel in the front and vice versa.
But if I do a great so as release, it
feels good. And if I shove down to my so as,
my leg feels strong. And you were saying your so
as has been hurting, so the only way to relate.
Speaker 2 (13:02):
Your crotch areat anybody's wondering, like you think it was
a hernae because I thought it was a hernai.
Speaker 1 (13:06):
The first time, and I was like, no, bye, By
the way, just for the record here, this is the
first time I've even heard the term so as. I
thought it was a canal. No, that's Suez. Yep, It's okay.
It's actually illeo. So As is the full name.
Speaker 3 (13:18):
But the only way to actually release or massage or
so as is to use this thing that shoves into
your hip and you have to like compress all your
weight tongues. You can't just massage it. You have to
like get into it and move your leg around to
release that so as muscle.
Speaker 1 (13:31):
So he was instructing Taco on how to do this,
because I've seen Taco doing these. I'll turn around and
he'll be on the floor here in the studio and
I'm like, what are you.
Speaker 2 (13:38):
Doing, dude, And I can't explain it to him because
then if I do, it's just like you well, it's
just so as. And my buddy Brian at the gym
told me about it. They make fun of us in
the back room. We had so bad, man, and like,
back problems just suck.
Speaker 3 (13:52):
So I just realized I'm at an age that I
have to do my back physical therapy every single day.
Speaker 1 (13:57):
If I want to realize.
Speaker 3 (13:58):
So I was doing that, was pretty good at it
in that day with the pole, and I was like,
I'm just gonna go shits real quick. I don't need
to warm up. I'll be all right. And I've been
the longest injury I've ever had.
Speaker 1 (14:07):
It's it's it's it.
Speaker 2 (14:09):
Does it ever get better?
Speaker 3 (14:10):
I don't know, man, I've been I feel like my
body's been falling apart since I was eighteen, and it
just keeps getting worse. So you need to first off,
get rid of that cactus. Yes, that cactus has to go.
I keep saying to my wife, it's gonna going. It's
bad news.
Speaker 2 (14:21):
I mean, it hurts your injured, your daughter, then your
so as and now you're going through all this pat
When when we do would my buddy Brian, he's big
into martial arts as well. He used to you know,
do it competitively and whatever. So he and I we
had this back room where all the dudes hang out
and talk shit.
Speaker 1 (14:39):
You know.
Speaker 2 (14:39):
It's like it's called the boom Boom Room. Yeah, and
then we have a pack of hot chicks that come
back there as well well.
Speaker 1 (14:44):
The boom Boom Room.
Speaker 2 (14:45):
Brian and I are always doing like that, you know,
the frog move and whatever, and then but he knows
all the moves. He's like Taco did this wonder little
country boy, and and everybody makes fun of us.
Speaker 3 (14:57):
There I go, here they are, and then we till
they hurt. They're gonna I wish I was doing that. Uh,
rehab stuff so important, and I've just been doing a
lot of like I know this, this podcast just took
a turn. I've done a lot of exercises for like
all the hip ligaments, because you think there's so many
ligaments in your hips, and it's so weird when something's
misfiring on your hip.
Speaker 1 (15:13):
Like my leg muscles look like they were like jelly.
Speaker 3 (15:16):
Yeah, which is really weird because I was like finally
in like the best shape of my life and then
this happened. I would look at my legs like the
muscles like falling off the bone.
Speaker 2 (15:22):
That's when I when I had knee surgery, I didn't
do the rehab and I got atrophy. And I mean
I grew up playing soccer my whole life and it
you know, had regular muscly legs from soccer, and it
lost it.
Speaker 1 (15:36):
Yeah, all this medical talk brings me to brings me
to this. You being a vocalist. Last time you're here,
you're talking about this concoction that you had been making yourself.
You know, especially you would use when you were out
touring consistently that you would to keep your vocal chords
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in check and working correctly. Now you have actually produced
it for anyone to use. Well, tell how did this
come to be? What is it? So I I'll just
try to do the quick recap of all this.
Speaker 3 (16:10):
So I started singing trivium singing screaming in nineteen ninety nine, blew,
I've always out. In twenty fourteen we determined I've been
singing screaming incorrectly for sixteen years. So from twenty fourteen
to twenty twenty four I sang super correctly. Was always
stressing up my voice, trying all these different things to try,
all these different potions and different throat teas, lozenges, sprays,
natural things, and so on a show day I would
have to collect all these things make them all became
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very exhausting.
Speaker 1 (16:31):
I was like, how can I just put all this
in one mobile thing? Whereas one drop.
Speaker 3 (16:35):
That has everything would have been from the teas, the drops,
the liquids the sprays in one thing, and so I
made that with this company one Shot, who I'm like
a partner of their company now, which is really cool.
So we made this thing, and I heard that even
Tea Pain loves them. So Ta Pain is gonna start
doing his own signature one Shot drops that we created,
So he's gonna have his own signature off the thing
that I made, which is pretty nuts. Oh shit, I
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might have not wells announced that yet. We'll hold that section.
I'm glad that wasn't on air's.
Speaker 1 (17:02):
It's already out on Facebook. I don't know what's sorry.
Speaker 2 (17:05):
I was gonna ask you, and I would have made
you slip. That's how many other musicians and stuff are
using it, because it's very very every music as whom
we know, we always hear them prepping up and doing
vocal exercises.
Speaker 1 (17:18):
Yeah, it's it's so.
Speaker 3 (17:19):
I was doing this religious process of just vocal exercises
every single day. I even did it this morning, woke
up super early, did my hour long warm up so
i'd be warm up in here, and still warmed.
Speaker 1 (17:27):
A little bit extra. How do these death metal guys
do it?
Speaker 3 (17:31):
So with all singers and screamers. Some of them can
just do it naturally correctly. Some of them just sing
and scream right.
Speaker 1 (17:38):
And then if they so.
Speaker 3 (17:40):
The guys that just randomly do it correctly where it
doesn't hurt, they're doing it right. And then there's guys
like me who have to do the extens of long
warm ups and all this stuff. Howard Jones from Killswitch,
one of the greatest singers ever, doesn't warm up, never
really trained. Bruce Dickinson barely does any warm up, maybe
like a couple seconds, didn't have any formal training. Halford same,
Ronnie James do the same.
Speaker 1 (17:59):
Now, those these guys are all more fall into a tradition.
I'm talking about these guys who are just the guttural shrowling.
Speaker 3 (18:05):
You know.
Speaker 1 (18:06):
De Shaun from Emperor doesn't have much of a warm up.
Speaker 3 (18:08):
He's got this super amazing high shriek that he does
it sustainably all the time. Corpse Grinder from Canniball, I'd
have to talk to him. But John Tarti from Obituary,
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (18:18):
What his routine is.
Speaker 3 (18:19):
I don't think he's really got a routine, and he
never loses it. It's super loud cuts through. But what's
nuts is so the last couple of months I was like,
I need to I was asking my wife. But basically
there's a couple of people that are my benchmark for things.
It's my wife, Ashley, my manager justin news management since
I was fifteen, and follow my bass player.
Speaker 1 (18:36):
It's okay.
Speaker 3 (18:36):
With this ascendency tour coming up, I've been working on
my safe scream. That was what I was doing for
the last ten years. So do you think it's enough
for this ascendency thing? And each of them separately, like no,
you kind of need to do the original and the
painful one. So on the records, I do the painful thing.
It's just scream till it sounds right and just go
for it right. But within the last two months, I've
been able to tap into this and I've figured out
how to use all the mechanics of the warm ups of.
Speaker 1 (18:59):
Matt Heavy for Privy and by the way, in the
studio this week for Youse.
Speaker 3 (19:02):
All the mechanics of the warm ups from the safe
stuff that my teacher, Ron Anderson taught me. He's the
guy that taught Chris Cornell and Axel Rosen and then
funnel it with the technique I used to do as
a kid. So now I could do the screams that
I was doing when I was fifteen. It doesn't hurt.
I could do them infinitely sustainable. We've been doing them
for all the all the practices every day. I'm going
to do some of them on some of the like
the bullet track that I'm gonna do tomorrow, require some
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screaming stuff and it doesn't hurt at all. So I
finally got it back after twenty six years. I feel
like I finally figure out how to do it.
Speaker 1 (19:28):
If someone wanted to get these, how did they get these?
Speaker 3 (19:30):
So they can get them from the One Shot website,
also on Lincoln Bio at Matthew Kafee on any of
my socials, but it's the one Shot vocal drops.
Speaker 2 (19:36):
Do they have caffeine in them?
Speaker 3 (19:38):
They do not, Okay, I want to make sure to
make sure they didn't have caffeine. I wanted to make
sure we have the minile not of sugar. As many
organic ingredients as possibly see organic brown rice syrup, honey,
organic inulin, monk, fruit, organic slippery olm, organic mushroom root,
organic liquorice root, organic flavor, citric acid, organic turmeric concentrate, organic.
Speaker 1 (19:55):
Peppermin oil, so you don't have to be a singer
to use.
Speaker 3 (19:58):
I've given them to yoga teachers, two coaches, jiu jitsu teachers, basically,
anyone that uses their voice like you two, anyone they
used their voice for a living. Your voice is gonna
get tired sometimes, and this is the solution.
Speaker 1 (20:08):
That's cool.
Speaker 2 (20:09):
We need to turn coach Mark Daniels onto him because
you know, every year his allergies will.
Speaker 1 (20:14):
The voice of the of the UCF nights.
Speaker 2 (20:16):
Oh yeah, and every year his allergies will will act
up in his voice pasadenes.
Speaker 3 (20:21):
I've used these during strep, throat tonsilitis, laryngitis while still
singing and screaming with those ailments in this.
Speaker 2 (20:28):
I love it when you handed me this because I'm
a guy that had throat surgery you know, years ago.
Speaker 1 (20:33):
You guys use your voice NonStop. My kids use it
when they're sick. They love it. To think of it
just like a like a vocal loss. All right, to
completely pivot away from this, how many can you do?
Speaker 3 (20:42):
Like? I mean as many as you I'll on a
show day, I'll have like two, three, four, But generally.
Speaker 1 (20:47):
Kind of one to day perfect. Let's seg over to barbecue.
Let's talk some barbecue. Yeah, you you have gotten into
this as well as one of your projects or you know, deals, whatever.
How how you have time to do all of this
and the band and the family and even just the
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vocal warm up.
Speaker 3 (21:09):
And I'm scoring scoring a horror movie right now. I
finally almost done with the score and I'm working on
a new game with my friend.
Speaker 1 (21:18):
How many hours a night do you sleep?
Speaker 3 (21:20):
Hopefully seven to nine eight eight is the goal?
Speaker 1 (21:23):
Yeah, I go to sleep early.
Speaker 3 (21:24):
You still get a full recommended night's sleep yep, need
to sleep the most more thing. I try to keep
all that stuff optimal sleep, hydration, and food, and those
are very I just try to keep those at peak performance.
And I'm not not only train as much physically, but
every single week I speak to my therapist for the
last like three years, psychiatrist every three months, and working
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with the cognitive behavior therapist now like I'm also trying
to work through the weeds that I've got up here
while taking care of myself. So it's very important to
take care of the brain and the body. All right,
the barbecue, Yes, explain, what do you have going there.
So with the barbecue, it's a shop called Boxer and Clover.
We had a six month stint at East End Market
in Autumn Park. It's myself, this is.
Speaker 1 (22:06):
The central area for those of you who are listening, six.
Speaker 3 (22:09):
Months pop up my buddy Matt Hinkley, who owns Hinckley's
Fancy Meats. If anyone watches somebody feed fill the latest
Orlando episode, Matt Hinkley was the guy the Delhi Counter, so.
Speaker 1 (22:18):
He's one of my ju jitsu teammates.
Speaker 3 (22:20):
One day he's like, I know how much you love
your community and how much you love Orlando and how
much you love food. We ever thought about doing a
barbecue shops. We decided making barbecue pop up because that's
one of the things I feel like we don't have
in Orlando, like local, amazing, family owned barbecue. Maybe maybe
there's some spots people can let me know about, but
I didn't find anything in my direct area. There's nothing
around in my so we said let's make something and
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Hinkley is one of my favorite chefs. Chef Pete, who's
also been running the barbecue, does incredible stuff sides of Osmo.
The whole idea was like approachable, down home classic barbecue,
no frills, just awesome food, and that's what we have.
And so after the six months, we're kind of seeing
what we want to do. Is it brick and mortar?
Is it pop ups here and there? But we're definitely
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popping up tomorrow at the Metal and Honey Show.
Speaker 1 (23:05):
Okay, Uh, what style the barbecue is it?
Speaker 3 (23:08):
If I had to describe the flavor profile for me,
it's somewhere between South Carolina and Texas.
Speaker 1 (23:14):
So are you a sauce guy or smoke guy? I
think I like it all.
Speaker 3 (23:19):
I think it's important. I generally like more of the
vinegar sauce. I like going South Carolina yellow style, about
dry rub I like that as well. Eustace actually has
an incredible barbecue sauce that my in laws always buy.
I wish I knew the name, but I don't, but
it's this incredible like yellow Carolina and style.
Speaker 1 (23:35):
I like that kind of song.
Speaker 3 (23:36):
Yeah, it's out of Eustas and it's freaking awesome, so
we wanted something like that. It's some of the best
collar greens I have ever tasted. It's collar greens and
hunks of ham.
Speaker 2 (23:44):
And I that's that's living right there.
Speaker 1 (23:48):
You he may not approve of glory.
Speaker 2 (23:53):
I'm sorry. I mean it's a go to when you
don't want to grow collars.
Speaker 1 (23:57):
If you if you can't use the fresh collars and
don't want to go through that whole process. We both
are on the same page that the canned glory collars. Yes,
glory right, so good. Hey man, he's so good. Man.
Speaker 3 (24:13):
My wife and daughter always said never to yuck someone's yums.
So if you guys say it's good, I want to
check it out.
Speaker 1 (24:18):
Pop up. I mean, listen, let's be honest here. When
I go to those, it's because I got stuff going
on the smoke or the grill whatever, and I don't
have time to be screwing with collars. And everybody's been
drinking beer all day. So yeah, here's here's the collars.
Was like, God, throw some butter in me, and it says, hey, somethings,
you gotta do what you gotta.
Speaker 2 (24:36):
Do, but put it on the stove and let it sit.
I learned it officially with all my football buddies. Oh wow, man,
I love These are even better than some of the
other collars I've had barbecue joints. And I'm yeah, So
it's awesome. Lazy Man's are out.
Speaker 1 (24:52):
That's awesome, all right, what else you want everybody to
know about?
Speaker 3 (24:55):
Here?
Speaker 1 (24:55):
What's what's what's coming up? To wind out the year
and go into twenty twenty five.
Speaker 3 (25:00):
So twenty twenty five is the twenty year University of Ascendency,
our fan favorite second album. It's also the twenty year
University of Bullified Valentine's the Poison. We're teaming up to
do all of those records throughout. The lineups are crazy.
We're doing a different lineup in every single territory. But
it'll be the whole planet. It's fastest biggest ticket selling
tour we've.
Speaker 1 (25:16):
Ever had ever. Has the whole thing been rolled out yet?
Not yet.
Speaker 3 (25:19):
So we've unleashed UK and Europe, North America Leg one.
There's gonna be North American Leg two. But was crazy
is like the the Montreal Show sold seven thousand tickets
in like three days.
Speaker 1 (25:30):
Wowhich is totally nuts.
Speaker 3 (25:32):
The UK were playing like the Madison Square Garden over
there's twenty thousand cap They had us climb to the
top of it for promo. So I had a fear
of heights. We climbed to the top in like the
rain and hail.
Speaker 1 (25:41):
I wouldn't do it. Yeah, I was like, I just
gonna get over the fear.
Speaker 3 (25:43):
So I did that the roof inside or outside outside,
on top You're on the roof the top of the arena. Wow.
Speaker 1 (25:48):
Wow, wrote with Cabling House. The view from up there.
It was cold. It was very cool, tho it was freezing.
It was freezing.
Speaker 2 (25:54):
I would have I would have passed out and fallen. Yeah,
I don't get serious.
Speaker 3 (25:57):
I've always been afraid of heights. I was like, hey,
let's conquer this. I've always been afraid of roller coasters.
So my wife's like, hey, let's go ride roller coasters
and I've fell in love with them. And then my
good buddy Matt Brown, who's now you retired UFC pro fighter,
he was in town and he's like, hey, let's eat.
I was like, let's train. So I grapple with a
pro UFC fighter. I was like, I want to conquer
all these fears in life. That's that's been the new
goal for me, is working all that scoring Deaf Gasm
(26:19):
too so Death Gasm one was a New Zealand comedy
horror film about these boys that discovered this record, they
play this music, it unleashes hell on earth. Everyone turns
in demonically possessed creatures and they have to fight them
and kill them with like really brutal weapons. It's super
gory and splattery, but also hilarious. Everyone watched Deaf Gasm one,
but I'm scoring Death Gasm two because I've always wanted
to be a guy like Hans Zimmer, Danny Elfman, Ludwig Gornston,
(26:42):
Henry Jackman and score film I've always wanted. Do you
watch the Terrifier movies? I haven't seen those. I haven't
seen those yet. That's you've got like a cult falling. Yeah,
I keep hearing about it. I'm not into like super
splatter gore. But what I loved about Death Gasm it's
about the only metal head in a small town getting
bullied and he doesn't want to leave metal and I
felt like it echoed my life so much. And he
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runs into this bigger batter metal head who bullies him
but also takes him uner his wing. That was again
the story of my life early years at Trivium, And
the second script is even more so. I'm like, man,
I was talking to the director Jason, like this is
my life. I was like, I have to do this film.
So I've been scoring, but doing all these that brings authenticity.
I'm doing all the orchestral work, like things like all
the strings and brass and woodwinds, and also the synthesizer stuff.
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I've been non stop studying all composers like John Williams,
guys like that. And I also created the sound. So
deaf Gasm is a band in the movie. So I
made their sound and like with their vocal selling, with
their guitars selling. Then there's an antagonist band I created
with their sound sounds like as well. The antagonist band yes, yes,
and so then then there's the score itself. And I
think my sound that I've been creating, I'm not I'm
nowhere near any of these guys, but it's somewhere in
(27:48):
the realm of like Hans Zimmer Danny Elfman, is where
I'm what I'm going for in this cool and.
Speaker 1 (27:54):
I we're gonna wrap up here in a minute. I
heard you mentioned before we started doing this. I heard
you mention the penguin on Max what a series hooked man.
I I'm you know, I don't know all the backstory
and all this stuff I just I saw the promo
for it and I'm like and when I realized who
was playing Penguin, and I'm.
Speaker 3 (28:16):
Like, no, it's crazy. Colin Farrell, Yeah, I watched the
makeup videos.
Speaker 1 (28:21):
It's nuts. I just it is. I was watching it
and my wife gets home from work and I paused
it and I go, do you know who that actor is?
She's looking Nope, no clue, no clue. And I told her.
She goes, now, I see it. If you tell somebody
and then they look at okay, you can tell that
it's in.
Speaker 3 (28:40):
But it's completely it's It's amazing, and I think it
takes three hours a day to do that. What's cool
about like the Batman world and all those hero things.
I don't like the things keep getting remade, but when
something is done well like that, like Joker one. I
heard two is bad some Night not bother way too.
But when Joker one was great, think of Nolan's Batman's
like Batman Kins was was very good. Dark Knight was
(29:01):
one of the greatest things ever and Dark Knight Ris
was quite good. I was nervous about The Batman with Pattinson.
Speaker 1 (29:08):
It was very good.
Speaker 3 (29:09):
It was a different kind of vibe and I felt
like horror detective vibe. But the Penguin Man, the only
thing I could describe it to is like Sopranos and
see so dark and seeing Colin Farrell. He's he It
feels like it's a new human being that we've never
heard of before. He's an amazing actor. The score is awesome.
It's actually Michael Giaccino's son, Michael Giaccino. He's done everything
from Gosh, I think, some of the biggest Disney Pixar films,
(29:31):
but he did The Batman as well, did the Star
Trek jj Abrams movies.
Speaker 1 (29:35):
But his son is scoring this, which is really cool.
So there's one more episode to go. That's it. Damn
And now is are they going to continue this thing?
Speaker 3 (29:42):
Is?
Speaker 1 (29:43):
I think they died too, they'd be crazy. It's so good.
Speaker 3 (29:45):
I think what's cool is like, if you think about
the penguin in Batman returns from Burton, you know, he
was like born at a sewer and he's like part penguin.
Speaker 1 (29:55):
And lives down there. It's cool that they can like
completely change the story around. I like when they do that.
Speaker 3 (29:59):
I don't like when it's like everyone's origin story and
then they banned everyone together and they fight this like
giant thing that's all CGI and there's.
Speaker 1 (30:06):
Flid out Mobster Penguin and his crew, who are good.
Speaker 3 (30:09):
I love the hero stuff that stays out of the
costumes for a minute, Like I thought X Men First
Class the beginning, when Magneto is like hunting these people
around the world, it was amazing. But when they put
the costumes on, like that kind of lost me a bit.
But because the penguin stays very realistic, I just like Mobster.
It's you know, it's so good.
Speaker 1 (30:28):
It's so intriguing. I have not seen it.
Speaker 2 (30:30):
For the record, I said that earlier. You need to
watch Mobster. Stuff is intrigued.
Speaker 1 (30:34):
It's so good. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (30:35):
You think of like Casino and Goodfellas and Sopranos and
Godfather totally, and this character reminds you of mix of
like Marlon Brando and Tony Soprano. Yes, and then uh, Sophia, Oh,
she's so good. And she was in Fargo season two.
Speaker 1 (30:50):
I think what was she?
Speaker 3 (30:51):
Yeah, she was someone's wife in Fargo season two. So
to see her be like kind of meek in the
beginning and then become this super badass is so cool. Yeah,
So it's amazing.
Speaker 1 (31:00):
It's what a show. It's really good.
Speaker 3 (31:02):
Another amazing show. If you've been feeling this is slow horses,
haven't seen Marry Oldman. So Cary Olman did something similar
to what so Colin Feld does the costume stuff, but
carry Oldman fully put his body into the role, like
he just like made himself into this character physically did it.
It's super dark. It's a show about am I five
sort of rejects. So like their FBI slash CIA, the
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people that have done something wrong. They put them in
this like kind of like grunt work thing.
Speaker 1 (31:28):
But that's amazing. Where can you get that?
Speaker 3 (31:30):
How It's on Apple TV. It's four episodes of season
British show. But it's it's up there with Penguin for me.
Speaker 2 (31:36):
And by the way, I think, girl liar, there's no
way that you're getting that much sleep with now watching
TV in there shows and then all the shows you
do and the barbecue.
Speaker 1 (31:47):
It's a very schedules barbecue while watching the Penguin and exercising.
Speaker 3 (31:52):
I do do my vocal exercise while do my physical
therapy and my exercise warm up, so they're all kind
of like going to each other and then I listened
to scores as I exer do.
Speaker 1 (32:00):
They have to tell you?
Speaker 2 (32:01):
And yoga?
Speaker 3 (32:01):
Heyh no, that's the only time I'm quiet. I think
heavy from trivia. Thank you so much, pleasure.
Speaker 1 (32:09):
It's really good to see you, and you're welcome anytime.
Speaker 3 (32:12):
Man.
Speaker 2 (32:12):
Thank you so you know that I mean being here
a resident of course.
Speaker 1 (32:16):
Stop by. Hey, good luck on a big tour. Sounds
like that's always fun.
Speaker 2 (32:19):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (32:19):
When the Lando show comes around, I let you guys
know it will be this leg to the next leg.
Speaker 2 (32:22):
Good perfect, all right, everybody, Uh tell the one shot drop.
I'm almost done with it right now. That is money,
good flavor profile. Yeah, I'll give it. I'll give them
a whirl.
Speaker 1 (32:32):
Here. I'm about talk down for today. It's going to
make you feel good, all right, everybody, thank you for
checking out off the air with Lynchin Taco from j
R R. We'll see you next time. Thank you,
All right, hey there, welcome to another episode of Off
the Air, the weekly podcast from the Lynch and Taco
Show at one O one one w j R. I'm
Pat Lynch, Taco Bob across the console from me as always.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
Good morning, Ready for a little fun time here with
Matt from Trivia and then out to Thursday night football later.
Speaker 1 (00:18):
Hey, by the way, good job on the show this morning.
Thank you very much. You throwback tunes that you learned
now are considered classic rock tunes because they're twenty plus
years old.
Speaker 3 (00:28):
Well, it's my mind, man, I can't believe twenty years
Is this the benchmark of classic rock now?
Speaker 1 (00:32):
I think we need to change that. It's no, it's
it's welcome to you know, the years start clicking by, man.
Speaker 3 (00:40):
Then what would we call like Zeppelin? Like, what's that
ben Zeppelin? Are those now goldies?
Speaker 1 (00:45):
I really want to get, if you really want to get,
we're talking about this on air when he played something
in the way, I said that there was some music
site that just did a survey on saddist classic rock
songs that came in as the saddest classic rock song.
And I had the same reaction you did. I still
have a hard time embracing the concept that bands like
Nirvana and Alison Shanes and Arim could be considered classic rock.
(01:08):
They just it's not because.
Speaker 3 (01:10):
What do we call the classic rock bands?
Speaker 1 (01:12):
Then they too are still classic rock to a degree.
If you're like the big arena rock bands of the
seventies and early, definitely still classic rock. But if you
start to back up and you get into like the
early early Stones, early early uh, you know, the Beatles
and stuff, and now you're going into oldies. Wow, it's weird, right,
(01:33):
that is very weird.
Speaker 2 (01:34):
What it comes down to is that we're all getting old.
Speaker 1 (01:36):
That's what's scary. But to really elaborate here, there is
there's a new form of classic rock that focuses on
the more updated timeline. So it's like nineties and other
there's you've got seventies based classic rock, you've got eighties
based classic rock, and nineties and early two thousands based.
Speaker 3 (01:55):
So it's fills in minds that two thousands is considered
classic rocks. But again it's all coming back. You see
kids now they're dressing like it's nineteen ninety eight.
Speaker 1 (02:02):
Again.
Speaker 3 (02:02):
Yeah, it's it's all you know, it's all cyclical it's
always mm hmm.
Speaker 1 (02:07):
I say, what's old, it's new again. And TikTok's the
perfect example where you see this time and time again
where somebody discovers something and you know, puts it out
there and everybody's like, oh my god, yeah, and everybody
who's you know, been here for more than two cups
of coffee goes yeah, well yeah, yeah we have, and
there's nothing wrong with that. Now. I love seeing my
(02:28):
my kid.
Speaker 2 (02:29):
You walk into my both rooms, actually my older ones
at school right now, but you walk into the younger
one's room and she has you know, Jani's chopping boss out,
but she can.
Speaker 1 (02:39):
Name the song.
Speaker 3 (02:39):
That's awesome because like when they dig into the history,
when kids dig, like if they find you know, because
like TikTok metal stuff, which is kind of like quote metal,
kids will get into it through that. I just hope
they dig in like oh where does this come from,
and not just sit there like it's It's like, as
a lifelong metal head geek, I've always been like a
find a favorite band that's semi modern, I'll find out
(03:00):
influenced them. And that's what I always encourage people. Do
you find a favorite band, dig backwards.
Speaker 1 (03:04):
Which band sent you down the metal path? I mean,
obviously you're you're a tad younger than us. You came
in and the height of when grunge was just that
you were in that sweet spot age where you're really impressionable.
Speaker 3 (03:17):
I didn't hear metal until nineteen ninety eight, and that
was the black album My Metallica, So ninety eight hearing
an album from ninety one right, And then I kind
of got into Metallica backwards. I went from black album
to like s and m Garage, Load Reload, Then I
went backwards, but the gateway was Metallica and then Mega,
Death Slayer, Pantera, the Testament, so obviously the ones that
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are the main gateway drug for everybody. But then I
got into extreme metal, so death metal, black metal I
found next, and then the thing called melodic death metal.
So death metall be cannibal corpse, black metal will be
things like Deomon War here, but melodic death metal would
be things like at the Gates.
Speaker 1 (03:52):
From the nineties, and there.
Speaker 3 (03:52):
Was a scene of music out of Gothenburg, Sweden called
the Gothenburg style or melodic death metal. It's a mixture
of sweetish traditional folk, new way of British heavy metal
like Iron Maide in Black Sabbath, and then death metal
by way of either Stockholm, Sweden or Tampa Floor to
Tampa Flora to being one of the other death metal
capitals of the world. So a lot of death metal
was those three things in one. When I discovered that,
it really started shifting Trivium in a different direction. I said, oh,
(04:14):
this is really cool to hear such intense extreme music
that is so melodic at the same time. Records I
would recommend, like Inflames, the Gesture, Race at the Gate,
Slaughter of the Soul. Those are probably two really good
ones to start with. After that, I discovered metalcore by
way of the German bands like Heaven Shall Burn and Caliban,
and I was like, oh, if I mixed these styles metal,
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a lot of death metal and metal core, this will
sound pretty cool. So that's what Trivium became. It's those
three things, and then it's just kept going from there.
Speaker 1 (04:43):
Now that also, with the end result of what you
just described, all that stuff being fed into your ears
and inspiring you to create your own band has opened
up the door to you guys playing with a whole
slew of these legacy bands all around the world. It's amazing.
Speaker 3 (05:03):
We've been able to with Iron Maiden twice, once in Europe,
once in the States. Toured with Metallic on festivals toward
Black Sabbath, and Iron Maiden. On the oz Fest that
the Azzi camp tried to get everyone to egg Iron Maiden,
and I remember we were asked like, hey, will you
egg Garden Maiden, Like why the hell would we do that?
And we're like, actually one of the only few bands
that refused to do it. Yeah, And the rest of
(05:23):
the tour, we put on Iron Maiden shirts every single
day and played the Trooper every single day in our stage,
and we'd have all the all like I don't know
who they were, but there are people in their camp
that would mess with us. They'd like drive their golf
carts and get dust in our eyes. They'd bully us
and laugh at us when we gave them catering and
stuff like that. It was like stupid high school stuff.
Speaker 1 (05:39):
Yeah, and we also had to.
Speaker 3 (05:40):
Buy on to get an os us. We had to
pay thirty thousand dollars as a van band to go
play oz Fest play at nine in the morning and
then get bullied after defending one of our favorite bands. Really, yes,
it was like I think they're the two bands had
the fixed slots on the side stage probably got paid.
Everyone below had to buy on, so you had to
buy on.
Speaker 1 (05:57):
That is crazy.
Speaker 2 (05:58):
I'd never yeh.
Speaker 3 (05:59):
I bet you'll say though that looking back, it was
totally worth it. It was worth it was worth it,
and I love that I'm able to. I remember we
heard that we'd be we'd be allowed to maybe play
at Ozfest in the future if we apologized for not
not getting We're like, yeah, that's not gonna happen.
Speaker 1 (06:17):
Yes, sorry, dude, you know that. In that going back
to the original concept of oz Fest was to expose
these up and coming new bands, and then os Fest
became something else, and then it really didn't happen on
a regular touring basis, and it eventually kind.
Speaker 3 (06:34):
Of I think the touring festival is a really difficult
thing to pull off in the States. I think kind
of anywhere, the touring festival. I wish it worked because
we we were lucky to do such a fantastic os
festivon that os Fest.
Speaker 1 (06:46):
Who was on it?
Speaker 3 (06:47):
Maiden Sabbath, uh massed On, kill Switch, Engage, Black Dahlia, Murder,
Trivium Soil Work, Arch Enemy in Flames. It was an
insane It was probably one of the greatest lineups ever.
So that was amazing. A couple of Mayhems we do
were amazing, and then they started kind of the lineup
were the same. I think the Destination festival really works well.
I think like the one off in specific places works.
Speaker 1 (07:08):
Like Danny Wimmer shows with Rockville and stuff or just
those work.
Speaker 3 (07:13):
It's yeah, it's like like the European model, like the
Vakan open air rock and ring rock and park download,
like you make people come to the festival. So it's
really great because I think when it travels it's difficult
because we have more than four bands in the States.
Speaker 1 (07:25):
You figure.
Speaker 3 (07:26):
I figure even myself now as a parent of twins,
it's like if I want to go to a show, childcare,
babysitters the babysitter and know how to put the kids asleep, food, parking,
like you think about all these things. You think about
how difficult this is. But it's so interesting because I'll
look at festivals in Europe and people camp out for
five to seven days. Well they'll you know, they've got
more vacation days than we all do you'd rather be
able to take like two three weeks off to go
(07:47):
to a festival, which is amazing. So I think the
touring festival at the moment isn't working in the States.
Speaker 1 (07:53):
And it's just seems some of these, even the established
festivals that aren't touring stopping there's they're either like really
really successful or for whatever reasons, they're like it's that's
that's just it.
Speaker 3 (08:08):
Yeah, because I heard I heard I don't know how
it's soon now, but I heard like Sick New World
sold out minutes last year. Unless year's kind of slowing
down right, right, it's been while we were young was huge.
I think people are liking the nostalgia, right. I think
maybe people want a theme for some things, like nostalgia.
Was that when while we were or when we were young?
Speaker 1 (08:25):
Well, I tell you, and that's I'll use Rockville Welcome
to Rockville as the local example here. You know, the
last few years we've been out there, I can't tell
you how many people I've just meeting who have come
here from around the world who are just like, my god, this.
Speaker 3 (08:40):
That's that's how you build a great festival. Crazy, you
build a great festival. You build a great experience for
the the audience and the bands, and it can grow
from there.
Speaker 2 (08:48):
Yeah, we were in line, sorry, Matt. And by the way,
Matt Matt Heavy from a Trivium's with us today on
the off their podcast. So we were in line and
in front of us because my body said, you hear
the accent and then you hear this.
Speaker 4 (09:02):
In front of us was somebody from France, and then
behind us was somebody from I think it was like
Poland or something, and then somebody else two backs said
oh yeah from what And I.
Speaker 2 (09:14):
Was just going, it's amazing. I'm from Orlando. I'm like,
you know, forty miles.
Speaker 3 (09:20):
I feel like metal culture has always been about like
people wanting to get just like you know, the tribe. Yeah,
the festivals here is kind of like fifty to fifty
rock metal or maybe like seventy five rock twenty five
percent metal. I feel like the metal community has always
been about traveling internationally and going to the thing like
when we play Vadking, it's such a mixed audience. So
what I'll do is I'll say like, hello, how are you,
and maybe like ten of the different languages, and you'll
get different pockets of the audience all cheering.
Speaker 1 (09:41):
It's really cool.
Speaker 2 (09:41):
That's cool.
Speaker 1 (09:42):
I think that you can do that. I think we
might have chatted about this a little bit last year
when you were here. That festival, that's one I really
would like to go to on the bucket list in
that tiny little town. And that is there amazing. That
is their revenue source for the year.
Speaker 3 (10:00):
Incredible, and it's such a safe amazing. It's like a
it's like a theme park for metal heads.
Speaker 1 (10:05):
Like you go that.
Speaker 3 (10:06):
There's like Future World, there's like pass World. There's like
Game of Thrones when we walk around and like food
around the themes and all these different places you can go.
There's like a Junkyard World, looks like Matt Max. And
then they'll have like I don't know what, five to
seven stages of just incredible bands. They don't need anything
mainstream to sell it out, sells out in minutes.
Speaker 1 (10:21):
All right, to change gears here. Just before we started,
I cut Taco and Matt off from a conversation they
were having. Apparently the two have suffered similar injuries and
are rehabbing using I was intrigued by this. You were
moving muscles around inside your abdomen or something. And pushing
them into your Explain what's going on here? Give it
what happened with you, Matt recently? Here?
Speaker 3 (10:43):
Okay, so it's post hurricane and I was pulling everything
back out after putting everything away that could have been
like a flying hazard.
Speaker 1 (10:49):
And this is Milton that was here. Yeah, yeah, and
there made.
Speaker 3 (10:51):
This giant cactus plant that actually once when my daughter
was like maybe four and a half or five, it
got caught up in a tent that my wife was
lifting and the cactus was falling over. My daughter's first
institute was to save the tile. She's like, I don't
want the tile gard so she went up to block
the cactus to save our tile, and it landed on
and she got staed by like a million different things.
(11:13):
She didn't cry much, but it was like, man, so
the same cactus plan. I tried to lift it up,
and I had great form. I mean, I'm like you
always making sure. My former was going on trying to
get out of the windfield. And I felt this tear
in my upper lat and I'm like, oh no, and
I had to still move, so so I kept moving anyway,
just kind of babing that a little bit. Next day,
I was like, I'm gonna go to so I'll be fine.
I'm just gonna watch this back lat trying to pass
the opponent's guard, and I feel this hot pull in
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my lower left back. I was like, oh no, was
hernade of my disk in my twenties with leg presses,
No one should ever do like presses. They're terrible, the
ones that you're laying back. Yeah, you could pop your spine.
I stopped doing those. Yeah awful, So I thought it
was that gonna. I'm gonna have to stop doing this,
and then I started freaking out, and then it kept
getting worse and worse, shooting pains the left leg from
next like three to five nights not able to sleep.
Speaker 2 (11:56):
Was it because you were baby in the lat?
Speaker 1 (11:58):
Yes?
Speaker 2 (11:58):
And then that caused you Just it's like if you
ever hurt knee and your limping and then your other knee.
Speaker 1 (12:03):
Because the body will compensate. So up here was injured.
Speaker 3 (12:05):
So they're pulled, and so then I accupunture, Cairo, cryo, massage, orthopedic,
the works, just doing everything, trying to figure it out,
and the AUTHO thinks because the MRI shows I've got
like five or six her needed discs and it's jiu jitsu.
Speaker 1 (12:19):
I keep trying, but.
Speaker 3 (12:20):
That's just what happens, but only one's really bad. I
started noticing that, like, this pain is very specific, and
if I push in this trigger point and my lower
so as on my back, I feel it in the
front so as. And I was like, oh, I started
looking at these diagrams. I've been reading non stop medical diagrams.
My wife just got her yoga's teacher certification too, so
she needs learned all about muscle anatomy and what links
to what I was like, Oh wow, this injury is
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part of the illeo lumbar ligament. That's the thing that's
attaches to the bony part in the back of your hip,
so right above that is super inflamed. And when I
push on that, I feel in the front and vice versa.
But if I do a great so as release, it
feels good. And if I shove down to my so as,
my leg feels strong. And you were saying your so
as has been hurting, so the only way to relate.
Speaker 2 (13:02):
Your crotch areat anybody's wondering, like you think it was
a hernae because I thought it was a hernai.
Speaker 1 (13:06):
The first time, and I was like, no, bye, By
the way, just for the record here, this is the
first time I've even heard the term so as. I
thought it was a canal. No, that's Suez. Yep, It's okay.
It's actually illeo. So As is the full name.
Speaker 3 (13:18):
But the only way to actually release or massage or
so as is to use this thing that shoves into
your hip and you have to like compress all your
weight tongues. You can't just massage it. You have to
like get into it and move your leg around to
release that so as muscle.
Speaker 1 (13:31):
So he was instructing Taco on how to do this,
because I've seen Taco doing these. I'll turn around and
he'll be on the floor here in the studio and
I'm like, what are you.
Speaker 2 (13:38):
Doing, dude, And I can't explain it to him because
then if I do, it's just like you well, it's
just so as. And my buddy Brian at the gym
told me about it. They make fun of us in
the back room. We had so bad, man, and like,
back problems just suck.
Speaker 3 (13:52):
So I just realized I'm at an age that I
have to do my back physical therapy every single day.
Speaker 1 (13:57):
If I want to realize.
Speaker 3 (13:58):
So I was doing that, was pretty good at it
in that day with the pole, and I was like,
I'm just gonna go shits real quick. I don't need
to warm up. I'll be all right. And I've been
the longest injury I've ever had.
Speaker 1 (14:07):
It's it's it's it.
Speaker 2 (14:09):
Does it ever get better?
Speaker 3 (14:10):
I don't know, man, I've been I feel like my
body's been falling apart since I was eighteen, and it
just keeps getting worse. So you need to first off,
get rid of that cactus. Yes, that cactus has to go.
I keep saying to my wife, it's gonna going. It's
bad news.
Speaker 2 (14:21):
I mean, it hurts your injured, your daughter, then your
so as and now you're going through all this pat
When when we do would my buddy Brian, he's big
into martial arts as well. He used to you know,
do it competitively and whatever. So he and I we
had this back room where all the dudes hang out
and talk shit.
Speaker 1 (14:39):
You know.
Speaker 2 (14:39):
It's like it's called the boom Boom Room. Yeah, and
then we have a pack of hot chicks that come
back there as well well.
Speaker 1 (14:44):
The boom Boom Room.
Speaker 2 (14:45):
Brian and I are always doing like that, you know,
the frog move and whatever, and then but he knows
all the moves. He's like Taco did this wonder little
country boy, and and everybody makes fun of us.
Speaker 3 (14:57):
There I go, here they are, and then we till
they hurt. They're gonna I wish I was doing that. Uh,
rehab stuff so important, and I've just been doing a
lot of like I know this, this podcast just took
a turn. I've done a lot of exercises for like
all the hip ligaments, because you think there's so many
ligaments in your hips, and it's so weird when something's
misfiring on your hip.
Speaker 1 (15:13):
Like my leg muscles look like they were like jelly.
Speaker 3 (15:16):
Yeah, which is really weird because I was like finally
in like the best shape of my life and then
this happened. I would look at my legs like the
muscles like falling off the bone.
Speaker 2 (15:22):
That's when I when I had knee surgery, I didn't
do the rehab and I got atrophy. And I mean
I grew up playing soccer my whole life and it
you know, had regular muscly legs from soccer, and it
lost it.
Speaker 1 (15:36):
Yeah, all this medical talk brings me to brings me
to this. You being a vocalist. Last time you're here,
you're talking about this concoction that you had been making yourself.
You know, especially you would use when you were out
touring consistently that you would to keep your vocal chords
(15:56):
in check and working correctly. Now you have actually produced
it for anyone to use. Well, tell how did this
come to be? What is it? So I I'll just
try to do the quick recap of all this.
Speaker 3 (16:10):
So I started singing trivium singing screaming in nineteen ninety nine, blew,
I've always out. In twenty fourteen we determined I've been
singing screaming incorrectly for sixteen years. So from twenty fourteen
to twenty twenty four I sang super correctly. Was always
stressing up my voice, trying all these different things to try,
all these different potions and different throat teas, lozenges, sprays,
natural things, and so on a show day I would
have to collect all these things make them all became
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very exhausting.
Speaker 1 (16:31):
I was like, how can I just put all this
in one mobile thing? Whereas one drop.
Speaker 3 (16:35):
That has everything would have been from the teas, the drops,
the liquids the sprays in one thing, and so I
made that with this company one Shot, who I'm like
a partner of their company now, which is really cool.
So we made this thing, and I heard that even
Tea Pain loves them. So Ta Pain is gonna start
doing his own signature one Shot drops that we created,
So he's gonna have his own signature off the thing
that I made, which is pretty nuts. Oh shit, I
(16:58):
might have not wells announced that yet. We'll hold that section.
I'm glad that wasn't on air's.
Speaker 1 (17:02):
It's already out on Facebook. I don't know what's sorry.
Speaker 2 (17:05):
I was gonna ask you, and I would have made
you slip. That's how many other musicians and stuff are
using it, because it's very very every music as whom
we know, we always hear them prepping up and doing
vocal exercises.
Speaker 1 (17:18):
Yeah, it's it's so.
Speaker 3 (17:19):
I was doing this religious process of just vocal exercises
every single day. I even did it this morning, woke
up super early, did my hour long warm up so
i'd be warm up in here, and still warmed.
Speaker 1 (17:27):
A little bit extra. How do these death metal guys
do it?
Speaker 3 (17:31):
So with all singers and screamers. Some of them can
just do it naturally correctly. Some of them just sing
and scream right.
Speaker 1 (17:38):
And then if they so.
Speaker 3 (17:40):
The guys that just randomly do it correctly where it
doesn't hurt, they're doing it right. And then there's guys
like me who have to do the extens of long
warm ups and all this stuff. Howard Jones from Killswitch,
one of the greatest singers ever, doesn't warm up, never
really trained. Bruce Dickinson barely does any warm up, maybe
like a couple seconds, didn't have any formal training. Halford same,
Ronnie James do the same.
Speaker 1 (17:59):
Now, those these guys are all more fall into a tradition.
I'm talking about these guys who are just the guttural shrowling.
Speaker 3 (18:05):
You know.
Speaker 1 (18:06):
De Shaun from Emperor doesn't have much of a warm up.
Speaker 3 (18:08):
He's got this super amazing high shriek that he does
it sustainably all the time. Corpse Grinder from Canniball, I'd
have to talk to him. But John Tarti from Obituary,
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (18:18):
What his routine is.
Speaker 3 (18:19):
I don't think he's really got a routine, and he
never loses it. It's super loud cuts through. But what's
nuts is so the last couple of months I was like,
I need to I was asking my wife. But basically
there's a couple of people that are my benchmark for things.
It's my wife, Ashley, my manager justin news management since
I was fifteen, and follow my bass player.
Speaker 1 (18:36):
It's okay.
Speaker 3 (18:36):
With this ascendency tour coming up, I've been working on
my safe scream. That was what I was doing for
the last ten years. So do you think it's enough
for this ascendency thing? And each of them separately, like no,
you kind of need to do the original and the
painful one. So on the records, I do the painful thing.
It's just scream till it sounds right and just go
for it right. But within the last two months, I've
been able to tap into this and I've figured out
how to use all the mechanics of the warm ups of.
Speaker 1 (18:59):
Matt Heavy for Privy and by the way, in the
studio this week for Youse.
Speaker 3 (19:02):
All the mechanics of the warm ups from the safe
stuff that my teacher, Ron Anderson taught me. He's the
guy that taught Chris Cornell and Axel Rosen and then
funnel it with the technique I used to do as
a kid. So now I could do the screams that
I was doing when I was fifteen. It doesn't hurt.
I could do them infinitely sustainable. We've been doing them
for all the all the practices every day. I'm going
to do some of them on some of the like
the bullet track that I'm gonna do tomorrow, require some
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screaming stuff and it doesn't hurt at all. So I
finally got it back after twenty six years. I feel
like I finally figure out how to do it.
Speaker 1 (19:28):
If someone wanted to get these, how did they get these?
Speaker 3 (19:30):
So they can get them from the One Shot website,
also on Lincoln Bio at Matthew Kafee on any of
my socials, but it's the one Shot vocal drops.
Speaker 2 (19:36):
Do they have caffeine in them?
Speaker 3 (19:38):
They do not, Okay, I want to make sure to
make sure they didn't have caffeine. I wanted to make
sure we have the minile not of sugar. As many
organic ingredients as possibly see organic brown rice syrup, honey,
organic inulin, monk, fruit, organic slippery olm, organic mushroom root,
organic liquorice root, organic flavor, citric acid, organic turmeric concentrate, organic.
Speaker 1 (19:55):
Peppermin oil, so you don't have to be a singer
to use.
Speaker 3 (19:58):
I've given them to yoga teachers, two coaches, jiu jitsu teachers, basically,
anyone that uses their voice like you two, anyone they
used their voice for a living. Your voice is gonna
get tired sometimes, and this is the solution.
Speaker 1 (20:08):
That's cool.
Speaker 2 (20:09):
We need to turn coach Mark Daniels onto him because
you know, every year his allergies will.
Speaker 1 (20:14):
The voice of the of the UCF nights.
Speaker 2 (20:16):
Oh yeah, and every year his allergies will will act
up in his voice pasadenes.
Speaker 3 (20:21):
I've used these during strep, throat tonsilitis, laryngitis while still
singing and screaming with those ailments in this.
Speaker 2 (20:28):
I love it when you handed me this because I'm
a guy that had throat surgery you know, years ago.
Speaker 1 (20:33):
You guys use your voice NonStop. My kids use it
when they're sick. They love it. To think of it
just like a like a vocal loss. All right, to
completely pivot away from this, how many can you do?
Speaker 3 (20:42):
Like? I mean as many as you I'll on a
show day, I'll have like two, three, four, But generally.
Speaker 1 (20:47):
Kind of one to day perfect. Let's seg over to barbecue.
Let's talk some barbecue. Yeah, you you have gotten into
this as well as one of your projects or you know, deals, whatever.
How how you have time to do all of this
and the band and the family and even just the
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vocal warm up.
Speaker 3 (21:09):
And I'm scoring scoring a horror movie right now. I
finally almost done with the score and I'm working on
a new game with my friend.
Speaker 1 (21:18):
How many hours a night do you sleep?
Speaker 3 (21:20):
Hopefully seven to nine eight eight is the goal?
Speaker 1 (21:23):
Yeah, I go to sleep early.
Speaker 3 (21:24):
You still get a full recommended night's sleep yep, need
to sleep the most more thing. I try to keep
all that stuff optimal sleep, hydration, and food, and those
are very I just try to keep those at peak performance.
And I'm not not only train as much physically, but
every single week I speak to my therapist for the
last like three years, psychiatrist every three months, and working
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with the cognitive behavior therapist now like I'm also trying
to work through the weeds that I've got up here
while taking care of myself. So it's very important to
take care of the brain and the body. All right,
the barbecue, Yes, explain, what do you have going there.
So with the barbecue, it's a shop called Boxer and Clover.
We had a six month stint at East End Market
in Autumn Park. It's myself, this is.
Speaker 1 (22:06):
The central area for those of you who are listening, six.
Speaker 3 (22:09):
Months pop up my buddy Matt Hinkley, who owns Hinckley's
Fancy Meats. If anyone watches somebody feed fill the latest
Orlando episode, Matt Hinkley was the guy the Delhi Counter, so.
Speaker 1 (22:18):
He's one of my ju jitsu teammates.
Speaker 3 (22:20):
One day he's like, I know how much you love
your community and how much you love Orlando and how
much you love food. We ever thought about doing a
barbecue shops. We decided making barbecue pop up because that's
one of the things I feel like we don't have
in Orlando, like local, amazing, family owned barbecue. Maybe maybe
there's some spots people can let me know about, but
I didn't find anything in my direct area. There's nothing
around in my so we said let's make something and
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Hinkley is one of my favorite chefs. Chef Pete, who's
also been running the barbecue, does incredible stuff sides of Osmo.
The whole idea was like approachable, down home classic barbecue,
no frills, just awesome food, and that's what we have.
And so after the six months, we're kind of seeing
what we want to do. Is it brick and mortar?
Is it pop ups here and there? But we're definitely
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popping up tomorrow at the Metal and Honey Show.
Speaker 1 (23:05):
Okay, Uh, what style the barbecue is it?
Speaker 3 (23:08):
If I had to describe the flavor profile for me,
it's somewhere between South Carolina and Texas.
Speaker 1 (23:14):
So are you a sauce guy or smoke guy? I
think I like it all.
Speaker 3 (23:19):
I think it's important. I generally like more of the
vinegar sauce. I like going South Carolina yellow style, about
dry rub I like that as well. Eustace actually has
an incredible barbecue sauce that my in laws always buy.
I wish I knew the name, but I don't, but
it's this incredible like yellow Carolina and style.
Speaker 1 (23:35):
I like that kind of song.
Speaker 3 (23:36):
Yeah, it's out of Eustas and it's freaking awesome, so
we wanted something like that. It's some of the best
collar greens I have ever tasted. It's collar greens and
hunks of ham.
Speaker 2 (23:44):
And I that's that's living right there.
Speaker 1 (23:48):
You he may not approve of glory.
Speaker 2 (23:53):
I'm sorry. I mean it's a go to when you
don't want to grow collars.
Speaker 1 (23:57):
If you if you can't use the fresh collars and
don't want to go through that whole process. We both
are on the same page that the canned glory collars. Yes,
glory right, so good. Hey man, he's so good. Man.
Speaker 3 (24:13):
My wife and daughter always said never to yuck someone's yums.
So if you guys say it's good, I want to
check it out.
Speaker 1 (24:18):
Pop up. I mean, listen, let's be honest here. When
I go to those, it's because I got stuff going
on the smoke or the grill whatever, and I don't
have time to be screwing with collars. And everybody's been
drinking beer all day. So yeah, here's here's the collars.
Was like, God, throw some butter in me, and it says, hey, somethings,
you gotta do what you gotta.
Speaker 2 (24:36):
Do, but put it on the stove and let it sit.
I learned it officially with all my football buddies. Oh wow, man,
I love These are even better than some of the
other collars I've had barbecue joints. And I'm yeah, So
it's awesome. Lazy Man's are out.
Speaker 1 (24:52):
That's awesome, all right, what else you want everybody to
know about?
Speaker 3 (24:55):
Here?
Speaker 1 (24:55):
What's what's what's coming up? To wind out the year
and go into twenty twenty five.
Speaker 3 (25:00):
So twenty twenty five is the twenty year University of Ascendency,
our fan favorite second album. It's also the twenty year
University of Bullified Valentine's the Poison. We're teaming up to
do all of those records throughout. The lineups are crazy.
We're doing a different lineup in every single territory. But
it'll be the whole planet. It's fastest biggest ticket selling
tour we've.
Speaker 1 (25:16):
Ever had ever. Has the whole thing been rolled out yet?
Not yet.
Speaker 3 (25:19):
So we've unleashed UK and Europe, North America Leg one.
There's gonna be North American Leg two. But was crazy
is like the the Montreal Show sold seven thousand tickets
in like three days.
Speaker 1 (25:30):
Wowhich is totally nuts.
Speaker 3 (25:32):
The UK were playing like the Madison Square Garden over
there's twenty thousand cap They had us climb to the
top of it for promo. So I had a fear
of heights. We climbed to the top in like the
rain and hail.
Speaker 1 (25:41):
I wouldn't do it. Yeah, I was like, I just
gonna get over the fear.
Speaker 3 (25:43):
So I did that the roof inside or outside outside,
on top You're on the roof the top of the arena. Wow.
Speaker 1 (25:48):
Wow, wrote with Cabling House. The view from up there.
It was cold. It was very cool, tho it was freezing.
It was freezing.
Speaker 2 (25:54):
I would have I would have passed out and fallen. Yeah,
I don't get serious.
Speaker 3 (25:57):
I've always been afraid of heights. I was like, hey,
let's conquer this. I've always been afraid of roller coasters.
So my wife's like, hey, let's go ride roller coasters
and I've fell in love with them. And then my
good buddy Matt Brown, who's now you retired UFC pro fighter,
he was in town and he's like, hey, let's eat.
I was like, let's train. So I grapple with a
pro UFC fighter. I was like, I want to conquer
all these fears in life. That's that's been the new
goal for me, is working all that scoring Deaf Gasm
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too so Death Gasm one was a New Zealand comedy
horror film about these boys that discovered this record, they
play this music, it unleashes hell on earth. Everyone turns
in demonically possessed creatures and they have to fight them
and kill them with like really brutal weapons. It's super
gory and splattery, but also hilarious. Everyone watched Deaf Gasm one,
but I'm scoring Death Gasm two because I've always wanted
to be a guy like Hans Zimmer, Danny Elfman, Ludwig Gornston,
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Henry Jackman and score film I've always wanted. Do you
watch the Terrifier movies? I haven't seen those. I haven't
seen those yet. That's you've got like a cult falling. Yeah,
I keep hearing about it. I'm not into like super
splatter gore. But what I loved about Death Gasm it's
about the only metal head in a small town getting
bullied and he doesn't want to leave metal and I
felt like it echoed my life so much. And he
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runs into this bigger batter metal head who bullies him
but also takes him uner his wing. That was again
the story of my life early years at Trivium, And
the second script is even more so. I'm like, man,
I was talking to the director Jason, like this is
my life. I was like, I have to do this film.
So I've been scoring, but doing all these that brings authenticity.
I'm doing all the orchestral work, like things like all
the strings and brass and woodwinds, and also the synthesizer stuff.
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I've been non stop studying all composers like John Williams,
guys like that. And I also created the sound. So
deaf Gasm is a band in the movie. So I
made their sound and like with their vocal selling, with
their guitars selling. Then there's an antagonist band I created
with their sound sounds like as well. The antagonist band yes, yes,
and so then then there's the score itself. And I
think my sound that I've been creating, I'm not I'm
nowhere near any of these guys, but it's somewhere in
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the realm of like Hans Zimmer Danny Elfman, is where
I'm what I'm going for in this cool and.
Speaker 1 (27:54):
I we're gonna wrap up here in a minute. I
heard you mentioned before we started doing this. I heard
you mention the penguin on Max what a series hooked man.
I I'm you know, I don't know all the backstory
and all this stuff I just I saw the promo
for it and I'm like and when I realized who
was playing Penguin, and I'm.
Speaker 3 (28:16):
Like, no, it's crazy. Colin Farrell, Yeah, I watched the
makeup videos.
Speaker 1 (28:21):
It's nuts. I just it is. I was watching it
and my wife gets home from work and I paused
it and I go, do you know who that actor is?
She's looking Nope, no clue, no clue. And I told her.
She goes, now, I see it. If you tell somebody
and then they look at okay, you can tell that
it's in.
Speaker 3 (28:40):
But it's completely it's It's amazing, and I think it
takes three hours a day to do that. What's cool
about like the Batman world and all those hero things.
I don't like the things keep getting remade, but when
something is done well like that, like Joker one. I
heard two is bad some Night not bother way too.
But when Joker one was great, think of Nolan's Batman's
like Batman Kins was was very good. Dark Knight was
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one of the greatest things ever and Dark Knight Ris
was quite good. I was nervous about The Batman with Pattinson.
Speaker 1 (29:08):
It was very good.
Speaker 3 (29:09):
It was a different kind of vibe and I felt
like horror detective vibe. But the Penguin Man, the only
thing I could describe it to is like Sopranos and
see so dark and seeing Colin Farrell. He's he It
feels like it's a new human being that we've never
heard of before. He's an amazing actor. The score is awesome.
It's actually Michael Giaccino's son, Michael Giaccino. He's done everything
from Gosh, I think, some of the biggest Disney Pixar films,
(29:31):
but he did The Batman as well, did the Star
Trek jj Abrams movies.
Speaker 1 (29:35):
But his son is scoring this, which is really cool.
So there's one more episode to go. That's it. Damn
And now is are they going to continue this thing?
Speaker 3 (29:42):
Is?
Speaker 1 (29:43):
I think they died too, they'd be crazy. It's so good.
Speaker 3 (29:45):
I think what's cool is like, if you think about
the penguin in Batman returns from Burton, you know, he
was like born at a sewer and he's like part penguin.
Speaker 1 (29:55):
And lives down there. It's cool that they can like
completely change the story around. I like when they do that.
Speaker 3 (29:59):
I don't like when it's like everyone's origin story and
then they banned everyone together and they fight this like
giant thing that's all CGI and there's.
Speaker 1 (30:06):
Flid out Mobster Penguin and his crew, who are good.
Speaker 3 (30:09):
I love the hero stuff that stays out of the
costumes for a minute, Like I thought X Men First
Class the beginning, when Magneto is like hunting these people
around the world, it was amazing. But when they put
the costumes on, like that kind of lost me a bit.
But because the penguin stays very realistic, I just like Mobster.
It's you know, it's so good.
Speaker 1 (30:28):
It's so intriguing. I have not seen it.
Speaker 2 (30:30):
For the record, I said that earlier. You need to
watch Mobster. Stuff is intrigued.
Speaker 1 (30:34):
It's so good. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (30:35):
You think of like Casino and Goodfellas and Sopranos and
Godfather totally, and this character reminds you of mix of
like Marlon Brando and Tony Soprano. Yes, and then uh, Sophia, Oh,
she's so good. And she was in Fargo season two.
Speaker 1 (30:50):
I think what was she?
Speaker 3 (30:51):
Yeah, she was someone's wife in Fargo season two. So
to see her be like kind of meek in the
beginning and then become this super badass is so cool. Yeah,
So it's amazing.
Speaker 1 (31:00):
It's what a show. It's really good.
Speaker 3 (31:02):
Another amazing show. If you've been feeling this is slow horses,
haven't seen Marry Oldman. So Cary Olman did something similar
to what so Colin Feld does the costume stuff, but
carry Oldman fully put his body into the role, like
he just like made himself into this character physically did it.
It's super dark. It's a show about am I five
sort of rejects. So like their FBI slash CIA, the
(31:24):
people that have done something wrong. They put them in
this like kind of like grunt work thing.
Speaker 1 (31:28):
But that's amazing. Where can you get that?
Speaker 3 (31:30):
How It's on Apple TV. It's four episodes of season
British show. But it's it's up there with Penguin for me.
Speaker 2 (31:36):
And by the way, I think, girl liar, there's no
way that you're getting that much sleep with now watching
TV in there shows and then all the shows you
do and the barbecue.
Speaker 1 (31:47):
It's a very schedules barbecue while watching the Penguin and exercising.
Speaker 3 (31:52):
I do do my vocal exercise while do my physical
therapy and my exercise warm up, so they're all kind
of like going to each other and then I listened
to scores as I exer do.
Speaker 1 (32:00):
They have to tell you?
Speaker 2 (32:01):
And yoga?
Speaker 3 (32:01):
Heyh no, that's the only time I'm quiet. I think
heavy from trivia. Thank you so much, pleasure.
Speaker 1 (32:09):
It's really good to see you, and you're welcome anytime.
Speaker 3 (32:12):
Man.
Speaker 2 (32:12):
Thank you so you know that I mean being here
a resident of course.
Speaker 1 (32:16):
Stop by. Hey, good luck on a big tour. Sounds
like that's always fun.
Speaker 2 (32:19):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (32:19):
When the Lando show comes around, I let you guys
know it will be this leg to the next leg.
Speaker 2 (32:22):
Good perfect, all right, everybody, Uh tell the one shot drop.
I'm almost done with it right now. That is money,
good flavor profile. Yeah, I'll give it. I'll give them
a whirl.
Speaker 1 (32:32):
Here. I'm about talk down for today. It's going to
make you feel good, all right, everybody, thank you for
checking out off the air with Lynchin Taco from j
R R. We'll see you next time. Thank you,
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