September 11, 2025 • 30 mins
It's a heavy news day, a lot to discuss this morning
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
All right, hello everybody, Welcome to a new episode of
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Off the Air of the weekly podcast from The Lynch
and Taco Show here at one oh one one w
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Speaker 2 (00:09):
Are. I'm Pat Lynch, I'm Taco, Bob manning the text line.
Speaker 1 (00:13):
And I'll be monitoring Facebook live as we do this
live in real time this week. It is Thursday, September eleventh,
if you're listening after the fact, For we think it's
important to frame the exact moment in time where we're
doing this on several reasons. Obviously, first and foremost, the
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twenty fourth anniversary of well, the worst day in the
history of this country easily and it is. I think
I mentioned this earlier during the show this morning.
Speaker 2 (00:49):
God did the Today's show seemed like it was like
ten hours long?
Speaker 3 (00:52):
It did.
Speaker 1 (00:52):
It did the tribute that we've been playing yearly, the
montage that was put together by our former produce or
CJ and is asked for every year. Why you all,
it's hard to believe we've now been playing that for
twenty four years. Yeah, and time does continue on, but
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time also leaves a mark in the memory bank on
a lot of occasions, and anybody who's old enough knows
that you have that portion of your memory on that morning,
just you know it's reserved. It's never You're probably never
gonna lose that memory or that reference points or that feeling.
Speaker 3 (01:34):
That we all had that day.
Speaker 1 (01:36):
I suspect it was a little similar.
Speaker 2 (01:38):
Yeah, And it's we talk about this each year too,
on nine to eleven, that there are certain things that
when they happen, you never forget where you were. Like
when Space Shuttle blew up. You know that was the challenge,
all right, Yes, so you get it's just ingrained in
your mind exactly where you were. Pat where were you
winning the Space Shuttle?
Speaker 3 (01:58):
In my backyard? I saw it, yeah, with your mom. Yeah. Yeah.
So anyway, I.
Speaker 2 (02:04):
Was at Glenyard Junior High. Remember they sent Delta Dave
out there to our smoking teacher who'd go during class,
Miss god I can't think her name, but she'd go
out to her van, her in her lesbians van shehur
or what No, She and the and the pe coach
were like lovers. They lived together, and that was back
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in the eighties. She'd go out to her van and
smoke siggs. So she said, today she goes David go
out and see if the Space Shuttle's up there because
he was causing troubles. She's like, go see if it
would and he came in and goes like, why does guys?
He goes, oh my god, it exploded, And don't you
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joke about that?
Speaker 1 (02:47):
But yeah, you definitely remember major events like this, and
we would encourage anyone who's younger who doesn't have a
memory of that day, make sure you're well up to
speed on that because it's something we don't want ever
to get lost in American history.
Speaker 2 (03:05):
And they teach it in schools for a reason.
Speaker 1 (03:07):
So, you know, and we'll kind of just again remembering
all those who were actually lost, and then all the
lives and family and friends that were left behind, the
landscape forever changed in this country and the world for
that matter, to this day, and it was just yeah, again,
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sometimes you're at a loss for words. You couple that
with what occurred yesterday, and I suspect we have another
situation where many of us will recall for years to
come where you were when you got the news about
this Charlie Kirk assassination. Now, I am fully aware that
not everyone knew the name Charlie Kirk before yesterday, all Right,
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and if you could allow me to indulge here a
little bit. I was intimately familiar with w Charlie Kirk
was I am deeply involved in following politics on both sides.
And Charlie Kirk was an enormous, enormous, an influential voice,
especially for young people, young conservative folks. He was eighteen
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years old when he decided, you know what, I'm not
going to go to college. Instead, what I want to do.
I have this idea to start an organization. He named
it Turning Point USA, with the goal of trying to
reach young people his age, high school and college folks
to present different perspectives on different issues of the day
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in the moment, some of them very very controversial and
heated in nature as to how people feel about ABC
or D.
Speaker 3 (04:49):
That was his goal, right, So he.
Speaker 1 (04:50):
Did that at the age of eighteen yesterday, at the
age of thirty one, he was assassinated doing what he
set out to do, and that was going on campuses
and talking directly with young people.
Speaker 2 (05:06):
And debating and going over issues with him right exactly,
and we got an ending with some crazy aspa And that.
Speaker 1 (05:14):
Was what was cool about what he had to offer.
Set aside Whether you agree with him or not, that
doesn't matter. What his approach was is what was important,
I think, and that was, Hey, let's have discourse here.
You feel this way, I feel this way, Let's talk
about it. He would set up a tent at as
much as you saw the scene yesterday, in the early days,
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it was much smaller in nature. There was the tent
was always there, but the crowds were much smaller. And
as the years went by and what he did started
to take root, grassroots, I might add, and get bigger.
It started with campus chapters across the country of Turning Point,
not only just in college, but it spread to high
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school campuses too. Not all schools obviously, but there were
millions of members. And so he set up yesterday, and
he as has been his tradition for years now, once
the fall semester starts in college, he goes out and
does a tour and he'll schedule these in public forums
in open spaces or auditoriums or whatever, usually out in
the open common space on a college campus, and sets
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up his tent. There's a microphone set up for those
who come to attend, who want to step up to
the microphone and speak with Charlie and discuss whatever issue
is on their minds exactly, and Charlie would engage with
those individuals and in times it became heated with back
and forth. There's plenty of footage of this from over
the years.
Speaker 3 (06:42):
Oh god, yeah.
Speaker 1 (06:43):
Every time at the end of this event, everybody went
away realizing the same thing. Okay, look, we may not
all be on the same page with stuff, but it's
much better to face each other and talk about it
rather than just harbor this inner hatred. You're this I'm
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out of here and disgust thing, which now has risen
again to the level of violence and resulted in his murder.
Speaker 2 (07:12):
Which is exactly what he was against, which just sucks.
Speaker 3 (07:15):
So, you know, but it's it.
Speaker 2 (07:18):
It was such a great program in my eyes, because
a lot of these professors high school and college are
brainwashing a lot of the kids with their views.
Speaker 1 (07:30):
Right, and that's this is where we got to be
careful talking.
Speaker 2 (07:33):
I know that one hundred percent, like this one right here,
somebody said, I thank you for your efforts to remain
a like non political. There are thousands of stations, channels, websites, blogs,
et cetera. I can go to if I want partisan content.
Your show is five hours to escape, That's why I listen.
Speaker 3 (07:52):
But news is news. Keep up the.
Speaker 1 (07:54):
Great work, and that's our goal today.
Speaker 3 (07:56):
Let's talk.
Speaker 1 (07:57):
That's what Charlie Kirk would have wanted all of.
Speaker 3 (07:59):
Us to do. And you know I don't. I don't hide.
Speaker 1 (08:03):
How I feel on any given subject. Taco, A lot
of times you don't want to get into these waters.
I respect that.
Speaker 3 (08:09):
I totally respect that because I know that people go anyway,
go ahead.
Speaker 1 (08:15):
I'm not shy about engaging and talking to people about stuff.
I'm not out, not out to change anybody's mind. But
you know, I've been around long enough, as have you,
and as have lots of you, to live and learn.
And what I've personally found is that on a lot
of things these days, where I am at life right now,
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I feel drastically different than I did twenty five years ago.
I would think most people do right, And that's that's
human nature. Yeah, that is that's just human nature. So
with that, we're hoping, you know, the horrible event yesterday
can can kind of serve as a reminder much as
like you spoke about how this country managed to come
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together through at an event like nine to eleven. We
are not comparing the two events. No, and I don't
want to be Misshart.
Speaker 2 (09:04):
Emailed for the For the record, I texted somebody back
when they were comparing and they said, yeah, it's very
I said, you don't compare anything with nine to eleven.
Speaker 3 (09:14):
It's just it's just.
Speaker 1 (09:15):
But what is similar, though, is the opportunity here for
unity to make something out of a bad event.
Speaker 2 (09:22):
So because we all came out of nine to eleven
as one together, as one, you know, and it was
we were all American, we were ready.
Speaker 1 (09:32):
And we are all still Americans. And I think somehow
that's got lost in the shuffle man, and it's like, hey,
line up on one side of the line or the other.
And that's really kind of how it is on just
about anything that could be vaguely construed as controversial these days.
Speaker 2 (09:48):
If you line up in this side and we're on
this side, you're off my Facebook, you're off my socials.
Speaker 1 (09:52):
I'm you're no Christmas card for you, don't come to
my parties whatever. That that's pathetic. Yeah, it's kind of pathetic,
and you know, the whole agree to disagree. That was
much more common I think years ago. Is it still
possible today. I don't know the answer to that.
Speaker 2 (10:11):
At least at least we're two guys that could maybe,
you know, as we did on the show, remind people
that and as you just did there, remind them so
that people could just take a deep breath and discuss things.
Speaker 1 (10:24):
And I want to gain I know, I'm going a
long way to get to this point. When you brought
up about being brainwashed in college, that is a common perception.
Now again, that perception comes depending on where you are
on the spectrum of things. And it is absolutely true
that there are professors and instructors in our learning institutions
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in both you know, grade school, high school, college that
have an agenda and they will try to convey their
agenda onto these students.
Speaker 2 (10:57):
Which is wrong.
Speaker 1 (10:58):
Without her balance And Charlie Kirk figured that out back
when he was eighteen years olds. Why do I go
to college to get fed stuff that I would rather
discuss this. Let's discuss this. I'll go direct the lead
of the schools. I'll go to multiple schools. Let's discuss
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this stuff and make the difference right, and try to
make a difference, or at least give an opportunity to
see that there are two sides to a coin. So
I commend him for that. I absolu and think about
the balls. He's eighteen years old, the balls that he
had to have to go into that environment where in
the early there's plenty of video for him being shouted down.
Speaker 3 (11:43):
Oh yeah, shouted down for.
Speaker 1 (11:45):
Just trying to express his opinion that it shouldn't happen
in this.
Speaker 2 (11:52):
It's slipped out. I apologize. I didn't plan for it
while I was discussing. And you know what, emphasizing something slid.
Speaker 3 (12:06):
Yeah, has it dissipated?
Speaker 2 (12:08):
Eh? Teaches themist see good lord man alight?
Speaker 3 (12:13):
All right?
Speaker 2 (12:13):
So so anyway, yeah, the fan if you're if you're
not watching the Facebook live, he keeps a fan behind
him called the fart fan. So back to a serious conversation. Sorry,
gas happens.
Speaker 3 (12:26):
All right.
Speaker 1 (12:26):
Most of the folks commenting on Facebook right now are like,
stay on the track you're on right here.
Speaker 3 (12:32):
This is this is good to.
Speaker 1 (12:33):
Be talking about in this manner. And I think we
could accomplish a lot more if as as collectively as Americans,
we could all maybe suddenly at least consider being a
little more civil when it comes to someone else's views
on whatever the topic may be.
Speaker 2 (12:50):
Yeah, everybody has their own views.
Speaker 3 (12:52):
It's beautiful, that's what that's what this country is all about.
Speaker 1 (12:54):
So you know, I've always and I've said this many times,
I would incururage you if you're dead set on thinking
something about whatever, make sure you've done adequate research into
all the aspects of whatever that might be, especially if
it's a hot topic issue. Because many times you swim
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in your own pool. Yeah, you swim in your own pool.
And I know, working in this business, I pick up
on this a little bit that there's plenty of people
in this business that I don't see eye to eye
to on a lot of issues. Yet the ears open.
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The ears open because I want to hear what they
have to say. And listening is a big part of this.
You can't you can't make any progress without listening, at
least to someone's perspective on whatever it is.
Speaker 2 (13:50):
We're both communications majors. That's the first thing they tell
you is the biggest part of a conversation is listening,
and communicating is less.
Speaker 1 (14:00):
Yeah, if you go up with you know like this,
I don't give a ship what you have to say.
You're you're a horrible person.
Speaker 2 (14:07):
You're going to go nowhere.
Speaker 1 (14:08):
That's not true, that's not necessarily true. So so the
FBI had another update this morning towards the end of
our show.
Speaker 2 (14:17):
Uh, and there's different speculations running around, you know us.
We're not gonna talk about the speculations until it's for proven.
Speaker 1 (14:25):
The you we know what we know at this point.
Many of you have seen the video of what happened yesterday,
and it is horrible. It's absolutely horrible. I'm not going
to tell you you should go watch it because I
do like you have no interest.
Speaker 2 (14:41):
I'm not gonna watch it just because it's It was
disturbing enough for me to see the girl on the bus, so.
Speaker 3 (14:46):
You got, yeah that that was That's.
Speaker 1 (14:49):
A whole other conversation.
Speaker 2 (14:51):
But I'm saying I saw that. It scarred me for
so yeah, I don't like seeing this kind of thing.
Speaker 1 (14:55):
So uh, somehow, whoever this was, you know god on
that campus, made their way to the roof, got that
round off. It was a kill shot, and then gone.
Now comes the you know, the aftermath, the investigation. They
you know, they had the two people that initially they
thought might have been had something to do with it,
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panned out there was those were dead ends. And now
the word is the FBI has asked for the public's assistance,
mainly for folks who were there yesterday. Obviously everybody had
their their phones. Everybody's a reporter these days, and they say, hey,
look at anything you might have taken out there, and
if you see something that even vaguely you think could
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assist us in this investigation, get it to us.
Speaker 2 (15:41):
Yeah, because those eyes are trained a lot better than ours.
Speaker 1 (15:44):
But if you have video, yeah, it's smart. So that's
where that's at. I can only imagine the resources and
what's going on right now in that immediate area there
in orm Utah. I'm sure it's Uh.
Speaker 2 (16:00):
I've seen the amount of lockdown.
Speaker 1 (16:02):
Quite the dragnets, Yeah, quite the dragnet.
Speaker 2 (16:07):
I'm looking at different comments. That's why I keep looking away. Yeah,
somebody no place for violence and zero tolerance for political violence.
Speaker 3 (16:18):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (16:18):
That the there's a blame to go around for this.
There's plenty of blame to go around for when when
the pot boils over, a lot of it falls into
the business we work in media.
Speaker 2 (16:31):
Yeah, and uh, oh I heard something yesterday. I was
uh back in my truck. You know, I was back
my truck in and uh in the driveway, so I
had the radio on and I heard something. I was
just like, just and I just turned off, Like it
goes straight in one direction. It's like, dude, you know,
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it's a horrible situation happening, and you're.
Speaker 1 (16:56):
Coming from working in the media. I just I want
to remind you of some in here that there are
very very few places you can go. And I'm saying
this as a member of the media. There are very
few places you can go, and I'm hard pressed really
to come up with one that is one hundred percent where.
Speaker 3 (17:14):
They will go both ways.
Speaker 1 (17:16):
No, we'll just look in the camera and just report
what happened. Just report what happened, and let let investigations unfold,
update as necessary.
Speaker 3 (17:27):
It's all.
Speaker 1 (17:28):
It's all fallen into commentary on whatever it is. Even
on what's supposed to be just a straight newscast, you
always get a slant. And it doesn't matter where you
are and how you feel about stuff. You know it's true.
Speaker 2 (17:40):
And that in the classes that we took in college,
we knew you don't do that if you're a if
you're a newscaster.
Speaker 3 (17:48):
That was one of the big rules.
Speaker 1 (17:50):
Yeah you report, yeah, report what you see, not how
you feel. And that's gone by the wayside. The goal
of media right now is I balls and clicks. Yeah,
eyeballs and clicks. The media is all about that, and
you have to kind of stop and remember that because
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it's very easy to fall into the trap of believing
whatever you see in here.
Speaker 2 (18:15):
It's very jaded and and somebody actually texted that in earlier.
I was trying to find the text, but I said,
media is one of the big problems with with the
problems that we have. They're one of the big you
know ones light in the wick because they're throwing out
all this shit and.
Speaker 3 (18:34):
We're in media.
Speaker 1 (18:36):
I want to give you another little dirty secret here
that I don't again because I follow this stuff in
front end, behind the scenes. You pull up whatever you know,
news station or cable news it is that you decide
to watch. All of them have this same formula. They'll
they'll discuss whatever the hot or controversial news story is
of the day, and then they call in the panel.
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The panel, you know how it goes, the two, three,
four people, and and what it is is it's a
it's a dog fight.
Speaker 2 (19:07):
It becomes a screaming match, almost like right out of
the gate.
Speaker 1 (19:10):
It does okay, and again clicks and eyeballs. Okay, keep
that in mind. That gets done, the camera turns off,
the panel goes home and goes out for drinks together afterwards.
Speaker 3 (19:21):
I'm not kidding. I know you're not. I'm not kidding.
Speaker 1 (19:24):
And you know they're making a living doing this, and
at the process is ripping us apart.
Speaker 2 (19:29):
Man, So it really sucks just.
Speaker 1 (19:32):
A few things if you weren't aware that that does
go on. That's how it is right here.
Speaker 2 (19:38):
The corrupt media is feeding all of this violence.
Speaker 1 (19:41):
Yeah, yeah, and all it takes is someone who's a
little bit off balance and not thinking clearly.
Speaker 3 (19:51):
And yeah, yesterday, Yeah, and.
Speaker 2 (19:55):
Just the late latest example, and we touched on this
earlier during the during our regular show. Those people who
go on social platforms and cheer about this or any
of them, you seriously got to check yourself because.
Speaker 3 (20:12):
That's fed up.
Speaker 2 (20:14):
I mean, somebody was murdered, somebody was assassinated, and you're, oh.
Speaker 1 (20:21):
They're an awful lot of people that I really don't
care for. But I certainly never hope for that, right
And I don't.
Speaker 2 (20:30):
Wow, I know, just really stop and think. If you're
one of the people that posted that.
Speaker 1 (20:39):
Charlie Kirk, remember remember God, family country. Let's hit the
family part with him. He's thirty one years old. Him
and his beautiful wife just had their second child, two
very young children.
Speaker 3 (20:50):
Yeah, and you've.
Speaker 1 (20:51):
Seen all the pictures. You can see he genuinely loves
his family, guy and made time for them amidst all
this NonStop busy schedule he had with Turning Point.
Speaker 2 (21:02):
So he lives running a massive organization, traveling all that
is a lot of time.
Speaker 1 (21:07):
Won't it hesitate to tell you that God guides him
with everything. Won't hesitate to tell you how much he
loves and cares about his family and how important he
believes the traditional family is, and certainly won't hesitate to
tell you how much he believes in the fabric of
this country and what it was was built and founded on.
And you know, tries to point out.
Speaker 2 (21:25):
And now that lovely wife and beautiful kids have to
and you grow up without him.
Speaker 1 (21:31):
And you got some six on the bitches applauding this.
Speaker 3 (21:34):
Yeah, it's just like the CEO.
Speaker 1 (21:37):
The same thing. It is the same thing.
Speaker 2 (21:39):
And again not comparing that shooting to what I'm saying
is the people that went on social media and cheered
about it.
Speaker 3 (21:45):
I don't give a shit if you hate big corporations.
Speaker 2 (21:47):
I'm not a huge fan either, but I'm not a
fan of somebody getting somebody walking up and shooting him
right in the back of the head point.
Speaker 3 (21:53):
But that is disgusting.
Speaker 1 (21:55):
YEA glorified the guy. The guy was, you know, mocked
up in like geez, his candles. I'm not even gonna
say his name, no, but and I just that's that's
some that's a thought pattern that I don't know if
there's a cure for. I just don't. I hope there is.
Speaker 2 (22:14):
Somebody said I would say the line to draw is
between those who at minimum are respecting his family and
then the people who are proudly celebrating his death. The
ones celebrating his death should be publicly shamed. They're publicly
shaming themselves because a lot of these dipshits are doing
it on social platforms.
Speaker 1 (22:34):
And I hope whoever, if they do, happen to have jobs, yeah,
something to do with hobody sees it. I hope their
employers see that. I really do, And I don't wish
anybody losing their job. God knows, we've lost our job before.
But uh, and we've done some stupid stuff.
Speaker 2 (22:49):
Timothy said, at the end of the day, he was
a husband and a father. It's a shame freedom of
speech led to this. Prayers for his family.
Speaker 3 (22:59):
Okay it is.
Speaker 1 (23:01):
And then let's let's hey, let's not let the whole
political game off here either. If you if your game
is calling someone you don't like, you know, Hitler or
a Nazi or a fascist or whatever. You keep repeating
that over and over and over again, knowing knowing it's
not true.
Speaker 3 (23:18):
You've got people.
Speaker 1 (23:19):
Again who are a little off take everything you say
at you know, like it's gospel, it's garbage and garbage
out man. So I just you watched yesterday on the
political level, all the big names all realize, oh, I
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better better put something out to you know, lower the temperature,
and yeah, okay, that's appreciated.
Speaker 2 (23:46):
But then you then you like the fuse back.
Speaker 1 (23:48):
Up a couple of days and that you're right back
to the same bullshit.
Speaker 2 (23:54):
So you know, it'd be really nice to see if
people could do something from this, as we talked about
I've said several times, would just be a little more
patient and understanding of other people's views, not just your own.
Speaker 1 (24:13):
Certainly didn't envision what we usually like to keep as
a lighthearted off the air podcast us having to do this,
but I.
Speaker 3 (24:20):
Think that's kind of our job, it is.
Speaker 1 (24:23):
And is it going to solve anything? Probably not, probably not.
Speaker 2 (24:28):
But at least some people hear it and could maybe.
Speaker 1 (24:30):
I hope it's a little from it, little therapeutic m
And thank you to all of you who are responding.
Is too many comments coming in to hit everybody back here,
but thank you yeah for understanding. And uh, unfortunately, you know,
things like this are probably going to continue to happen
until really more people get the message the memo, Hey,
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keep in mind, let's hope you don't. You don't have
to hate someone just because you disagree with them.
Speaker 3 (25:01):
You don't have to hate anybody.
Speaker 2 (25:04):
Honestly, think about that, that simple phrase Pat just said.
You don't have to hate anybody because you disagree with them,
but at least discuss it. And even if it's at
the at the end of the day, even if you
agree to disagree, then that's fine.
Speaker 1 (25:19):
And the best, you know, the best thing in that
is if that you can't come to any resolve on
whatever it is.
Speaker 3 (25:25):
You have a beefo.
Speaker 1 (25:25):
At least you heard some of them. At least you
got to hear each other side of it. You have
to respect that, and then you just leave the topic alone.
You don't have to be how cool is that?
Speaker 3 (25:36):
Right?
Speaker 1 (25:36):
Just leave it alone. You know we're never going to
agree on everything, and if you understand that, and.
Speaker 2 (25:42):
Just you and I know that because we've worked together
so long. I walked in this morning and Pat's got
the face understandably heavy ass day on both sides.
Speaker 3 (25:51):
But he immediately said, this is.
Speaker 2 (25:55):
As I walk in the door, first time I've seen him,
and he said, this is really disturbing me. And I'm like,
it is really disturbing, and you have that right, and
I had the right to tell you. We need to
remember what kind of show we do that people expect.
We're definitely if we didn't talk about this this subject,
we should be fired.
Speaker 1 (26:15):
I'll tell you what's even more disturbing. What even disturbed
me more? Yesterday, as this always unfolding, my wife gets
home from work and she gets this news. She got
the news before I did. I was actually out back
with the dog.
Speaker 2 (26:31):
She she had got home from work, probably was driving
home listing.
Speaker 1 (26:35):
And she goes, oh my god, you gotta I'm like,
what what And we both sat down and my wife
is just shaking her head at one point as the
details were coming out, and they're showing the pictures of
his family and the little kids, and she's in tears.
She's in tears, just on a human level, all right.
Speaker 2 (26:56):
No sides taking, none of that.
Speaker 1 (26:57):
Just she's a person, yea, she just you know, that's
one of the things I love about her the most
is her compassion.
Speaker 2 (27:04):
And she immediately, well, shit, she's married, she's got to
be a compassion No, you're you're you're right, you're right.
Speaker 1 (27:11):
And then uh, my young twenty something daughter, she's college
aged in college, and she really hammered it home for me,
as you know, we started going back and forth on
the family text, and she told me straight up, she goes,
you know, Dad, Charlie is the reason I've changed my
mind on a lot of stuff that you tried to talk.
Speaker 3 (27:33):
To me about.
Speaker 2 (27:34):
Because if you are saying it's coming from.
Speaker 1 (27:36):
Dad, the old dad, what does he know, he's just grumpy.
But you got a younger guy who's you know, to
the younger crowd and right and knows how to talk
that language. I'm not gonna sit here and try to
pretend I am a good dad. I try to be
a good dad, and I just want the best for her.
And Okay, maybe sometimes the way I frame things not proper.
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But he connected with her on a lot of levels.
And she said a lot of us because the age,
and she said, she goes, it's not just me. And
if you're looking at what's going on, you know a lot.
Speaker 2 (28:12):
Of people that come out to this and connecting to it.
Speaker 3 (28:15):
He was connecting to it. Shit go to people.
Speaker 1 (28:17):
He was doing something right. Yeah, a lot of people
will refuse to admit that, but he was connecting and
getting through where others were unable to.
Speaker 2 (28:30):
I have two daughters in college. I couldn't agree more.
Speaker 3 (28:33):
You know.
Speaker 1 (28:33):
And if you if if the folks who still hate
his guts and are celebrating his you know, demise, I
think you might be sadly mistaken that your problem is gone.
I think his message is now going to be amplified.
And an awful lot of people had no idea who
he was or what he was about.
Speaker 2 (28:53):
Do now, Yeah, and then they'll go and search some
stuff and watch and see you know, people discussing stuff, yes,
without fists and you know the.
Speaker 1 (29:06):
Bullets, yeah, or running people down or stabbing people or
whatever it is. It's just my god, almighty man. I
think we're gonna shut her down at.
Speaker 2 (29:17):
This point because thank you to everybody who too in
obviously a huge number of people.
Speaker 1 (29:22):
For thirty in the morning. I feel like I need
a shot at Jamison.
Speaker 3 (29:26):
We'll go for it.
Speaker 1 (29:27):
It's Thursday, right, all right, we'll do We'll do this again.
Speaker 2 (29:34):
Soon tomorrow, thank the Lord. It's Friday. Yeah, that's all.
Take time today to remember today.
Speaker 1 (29:42):
Yeah, remember today. Obviously the thousands lost twenty four years
ago today on nine to eleven. Don't ever, don't ever
let go of that memory.
Speaker 2 (29:54):
We're hearing from a lot of people that were in
the military at the time of that, and obviously to
anybody who has done military, thank you for your service.
We can't say that enough. But I could not imagine
being in the.
Speaker 1 (30:05):
Military change higher dynamic of the world.
Speaker 3 (30:08):
That all right, everybody, hey be safe.
All right, hello everybody, Welcome to a new episode of
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Off the Air of the weekly podcast from The Lynch
and Taco Show here at one oh one one w
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Speaker 2 (00:09):
Are. I'm Pat Lynch, I'm Taco, Bob manning the text line.
Speaker 1 (00:13):
And I'll be monitoring Facebook live as we do this
live in real time this week. It is Thursday, September eleventh,
if you're listening after the fact, For we think it's
important to frame the exact moment in time where we're
doing this on several reasons. Obviously, first and foremost, the
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twenty fourth anniversary of well, the worst day in the
history of this country easily and it is. I think
I mentioned this earlier during the show this morning.
Speaker 2 (00:49):
God did the Today's show seemed like it was like
ten hours long?
Speaker 3 (00:52):
It did.
Speaker 1 (00:52):
It did the tribute that we've been playing yearly, the
montage that was put together by our former produce or
CJ and is asked for every year. Why you all,
it's hard to believe we've now been playing that for
twenty four years. Yeah, and time does continue on, but
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time also leaves a mark in the memory bank on
a lot of occasions, and anybody who's old enough knows
that you have that portion of your memory on that morning,
just you know it's reserved. It's never You're probably never
gonna lose that memory or that reference points or that feeling.
Speaker 3 (01:34):
That we all had that day.
Speaker 1 (01:36):
I suspect it was a little similar.
Speaker 2 (01:38):
Yeah, And it's we talk about this each year too,
on nine to eleven, that there are certain things that
when they happen, you never forget where you were. Like
when Space Shuttle blew up. You know that was the challenge,
all right, Yes, so you get it's just ingrained in
your mind exactly where you were. Pat where were you
winning the Space Shuttle?
Speaker 3 (01:58):
In my backyard? I saw it, yeah, with your mom. Yeah. Yeah.
So anyway, I.
Speaker 2 (02:04):
Was at Glenyard Junior High. Remember they sent Delta Dave
out there to our smoking teacher who'd go during class,
Miss god I can't think her name, but she'd go
out to her van, her in her lesbians van shehur
or what No, She and the and the pe coach
were like lovers. They lived together, and that was back
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in the eighties. She'd go out to her van and
smoke siggs. So she said, today she goes David go
out and see if the Space Shuttle's up there because
he was causing troubles. She's like, go see if it
would and he came in and goes like, why does guys?
He goes, oh my god, it exploded, And don't you
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joke about that?
Speaker 1 (02:47):
But yeah, you definitely remember major events like this, and
we would encourage anyone who's younger who doesn't have a
memory of that day, make sure you're well up to
speed on that because it's something we don't want ever
to get lost in American history.
Speaker 2 (03:05):
And they teach it in schools for a reason.
Speaker 1 (03:07):
So, you know, and we'll kind of just again remembering
all those who were actually lost, and then all the
lives and family and friends that were left behind, the
landscape forever changed in this country and the world for
that matter, to this day, and it was just yeah, again,
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sometimes you're at a loss for words. You couple that
with what occurred yesterday, and I suspect we have another
situation where many of us will recall for years to
come where you were when you got the news about
this Charlie Kirk assassination. Now, I am fully aware that
not everyone knew the name Charlie Kirk before yesterday, all Right,
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and if you could allow me to indulge here a
little bit. I was intimately familiar with w Charlie Kirk
was I am deeply involved in following politics on both sides.
And Charlie Kirk was an enormous, enormous, an influential voice,
especially for young people, young conservative folks. He was eighteen
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years old when he decided, you know what, I'm not
going to go to college. Instead, what I want to do.
I have this idea to start an organization. He named
it Turning Point USA, with the goal of trying to
reach young people his age, high school and college folks
to present different perspectives on different issues of the day
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in the moment, some of them very very controversial and
heated in nature as to how people feel about ABC
or D.
Speaker 3 (04:49):
That was his goal, right, So he.
Speaker 1 (04:50):
Did that at the age of eighteen yesterday, at the
age of thirty one, he was assassinated doing what he
set out to do, and that was going on campuses
and talking directly with young people.
Speaker 2 (05:06):
And debating and going over issues with him right exactly,
and we got an ending with some crazy aspa And that.
Speaker 1 (05:14):
Was what was cool about what he had to offer.
Set aside Whether you agree with him or not, that
doesn't matter. What his approach was is what was important,
I think, and that was, Hey, let's have discourse here.
You feel this way, I feel this way, Let's talk
about it. He would set up a tent at as
much as you saw the scene yesterday, in the early days,
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it was much smaller in nature. There was the tent
was always there, but the crowds were much smaller. And
as the years went by and what he did started
to take root, grassroots, I might add, and get bigger.
It started with campus chapters across the country of Turning Point,
not only just in college, but it spread to high
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school campuses too. Not all schools obviously, but there were
millions of members. And so he set up yesterday, and
he as has been his tradition for years now, once
the fall semester starts in college, he goes out and
does a tour and he'll schedule these in public forums
in open spaces or auditoriums or whatever, usually out in
the open common space on a college campus, and sets
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up his tent. There's a microphone set up for those
who come to attend, who want to step up to
the microphone and speak with Charlie and discuss whatever issue
is on their minds exactly, and Charlie would engage with
those individuals and in times it became heated with back
and forth. There's plenty of footage of this from over
the years.
Speaker 3 (06:42):
Oh god, yeah.
Speaker 1 (06:43):
Every time at the end of this event, everybody went
away realizing the same thing. Okay, look, we may not
all be on the same page with stuff, but it's
much better to face each other and talk about it
rather than just harbor this inner hatred. You're this I'm
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out of here and disgust thing, which now has risen
again to the level of violence and resulted in his murder.
Speaker 2 (07:12):
Which is exactly what he was against, which just sucks.
Speaker 3 (07:15):
So, you know, but it's it.
Speaker 2 (07:18):
It was such a great program in my eyes, because
a lot of these professors high school and college are
brainwashing a lot of the kids with their views.
Speaker 1 (07:30):
Right, and that's this is where we got to be
careful talking.
Speaker 2 (07:33):
I know that one hundred percent, like this one right here,
somebody said, I thank you for your efforts to remain
a like non political. There are thousands of stations, channels, websites, blogs,
et cetera. I can go to if I want partisan content.
Your show is five hours to escape, That's why I listen.
Speaker 3 (07:52):
But news is news. Keep up the.
Speaker 1 (07:54):
Great work, and that's our goal today.
Speaker 3 (07:56):
Let's talk.
Speaker 1 (07:57):
That's what Charlie Kirk would have wanted all of.
Speaker 3 (07:59):
Us to do. And you know I don't. I don't hide.
Speaker 1 (08:03):
How I feel on any given subject. Taco, A lot
of times you don't want to get into these waters.
I respect that.
Speaker 3 (08:09):
I totally respect that because I know that people go anyway,
go ahead.
Speaker 1 (08:15):
I'm not shy about engaging and talking to people about stuff.
I'm not out, not out to change anybody's mind. But
you know, I've been around long enough, as have you,
and as have lots of you, to live and learn.
And what I've personally found is that on a lot
of things these days, where I am at life right now,
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I feel drastically different than I did twenty five years ago.
I would think most people do right, And that's that's
human nature. Yeah, that is that's just human nature. So
with that, we're hoping, you know, the horrible event yesterday
can can kind of serve as a reminder much as
like you spoke about how this country managed to come
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together through at an event like nine to eleven. We
are not comparing the two events. No, and I don't
want to be Misshart.
Speaker 2 (09:04):
Emailed for the For the record, I texted somebody back
when they were comparing and they said, yeah, it's very
I said, you don't compare anything with nine to eleven.
Speaker 3 (09:14):
It's just it's just.
Speaker 1 (09:15):
But what is similar, though, is the opportunity here for
unity to make something out of a bad event.
Speaker 2 (09:22):
So because we all came out of nine to eleven
as one together, as one, you know, and it was
we were all American, we were ready.
Speaker 1 (09:32):
And we are all still Americans. And I think somehow
that's got lost in the shuffle man, and it's like, hey,
line up on one side of the line or the other.
And that's really kind of how it is on just
about anything that could be vaguely construed as controversial these days.
Speaker 2 (09:48):
If you line up in this side and we're on
this side, you're off my Facebook, you're off my socials.
Speaker 1 (09:52):
I'm you're no Christmas card for you, don't come to
my parties whatever. That that's pathetic. Yeah, it's kind of pathetic,
and you know, the whole agree to disagree. That was
much more common I think years ago. Is it still
possible today. I don't know the answer to that.
Speaker 2 (10:11):
At least at least we're two guys that could maybe,
you know, as we did on the show, remind people
that and as you just did there, remind them so
that people could just take a deep breath and discuss things.
Speaker 1 (10:24):
And I want to gain I know, I'm going a
long way to get to this point. When you brought
up about being brainwashed in college, that is a common perception.
Now again, that perception comes depending on where you are
on the spectrum of things. And it is absolutely true
that there are professors and instructors in our learning institutions
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in both you know, grade school, high school, college that
have an agenda and they will try to convey their
agenda onto these students.
Speaker 2 (10:57):
Which is wrong.
Speaker 1 (10:58):
Without her balance And Charlie Kirk figured that out back
when he was eighteen years olds. Why do I go
to college to get fed stuff that I would rather
discuss this. Let's discuss this. I'll go direct the lead
of the schools. I'll go to multiple schools. Let's discuss
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this stuff and make the difference right, and try to
make a difference, or at least give an opportunity to
see that there are two sides to a coin. So
I commend him for that. I absolu and think about
the balls. He's eighteen years old, the balls that he
had to have to go into that environment where in
the early there's plenty of video for him being shouted down.
Speaker 3 (11:43):
Oh yeah, shouted down for.
Speaker 1 (11:45):
Just trying to express his opinion that it shouldn't happen
in this.
Speaker 2 (11:52):
It's slipped out. I apologize. I didn't plan for it
while I was discussing. And you know what, emphasizing something slid.
Speaker 3 (12:06):
Yeah, has it dissipated?
Speaker 2 (12:08):
Eh? Teaches themist see good lord man alight?
Speaker 3 (12:13):
All right?
Speaker 2 (12:13):
So so anyway, yeah, the fan if you're if you're
not watching the Facebook live, he keeps a fan behind
him called the fart fan. So back to a serious conversation. Sorry,
gas happens.
Speaker 3 (12:26):
All right.
Speaker 1 (12:26):
Most of the folks commenting on Facebook right now are like,
stay on the track you're on right here.
Speaker 3 (12:32):
This is this is good to.
Speaker 1 (12:33):
Be talking about in this manner. And I think we
could accomplish a lot more if as as collectively as Americans,
we could all maybe suddenly at least consider being a
little more civil when it comes to someone else's views
on whatever the topic may be.
Speaker 2 (12:50):
Yeah, everybody has their own views.
Speaker 3 (12:52):
It's beautiful, that's what that's what this country is all about.
Speaker 1 (12:54):
So you know, I've always and I've said this many times,
I would incururage you if you're dead set on thinking
something about whatever, make sure you've done adequate research into
all the aspects of whatever that might be, especially if
it's a hot topic issue. Because many times you swim
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in your own pool. Yeah, you swim in your own pool.
And I know, working in this business, I pick up
on this a little bit that there's plenty of people
in this business that I don't see eye to eye
to on a lot of issues. Yet the ears open.
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The ears open because I want to hear what they
have to say. And listening is a big part of this.
You can't you can't make any progress without listening, at
least to someone's perspective on whatever it is.
Speaker 2 (13:50):
We're both communications majors. That's the first thing they tell
you is the biggest part of a conversation is listening,
and communicating is less.
Speaker 1 (14:00):
Yeah, if you go up with you know like this,
I don't give a ship what you have to say.
You're you're a horrible person.
Speaker 2 (14:07):
You're going to go nowhere.
Speaker 1 (14:08):
That's not true, that's not necessarily true. So so the
FBI had another update this morning towards the end of
our show.
Speaker 2 (14:17):
Uh, and there's different speculations running around, you know us.
We're not gonna talk about the speculations until it's for proven.
Speaker 1 (14:25):
The you we know what we know at this point.
Many of you have seen the video of what happened yesterday,
and it is horrible. It's absolutely horrible. I'm not going
to tell you you should go watch it because I
do like you have no interest.
Speaker 2 (14:41):
I'm not gonna watch it just because it's It was
disturbing enough for me to see the girl on the bus, so.
Speaker 3 (14:46):
You got, yeah that that was That's.
Speaker 1 (14:49):
A whole other conversation.
Speaker 2 (14:51):
But I'm saying I saw that. It scarred me for
so yeah, I don't like seeing this kind of thing.
Speaker 1 (14:55):
So uh, somehow, whoever this was, you know god on
that campus, made their way to the roof, got that
round off. It was a kill shot, and then gone.
Now comes the you know, the aftermath, the investigation. They
you know, they had the two people that initially they
thought might have been had something to do with it,
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panned out there was those were dead ends. And now
the word is the FBI has asked for the public's assistance,
mainly for folks who were there yesterday. Obviously everybody had
their their phones. Everybody's a reporter these days, and they say, hey,
look at anything you might have taken out there, and
if you see something that even vaguely you think could
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assist us in this investigation, get it to us.
Speaker 2 (15:41):
Yeah, because those eyes are trained a lot better than ours.
Speaker 1 (15:44):
But if you have video, yeah, it's smart. So that's
where that's at. I can only imagine the resources and
what's going on right now in that immediate area there
in orm Utah. I'm sure it's Uh.
Speaker 2 (16:00):
I've seen the amount of lockdown.
Speaker 1 (16:02):
Quite the dragnets, Yeah, quite the dragnet.
Speaker 2 (16:07):
I'm looking at different comments. That's why I keep looking away. Yeah,
somebody no place for violence and zero tolerance for political violence.
Speaker 3 (16:18):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (16:18):
That the there's a blame to go around for this.
There's plenty of blame to go around for when when
the pot boils over, a lot of it falls into
the business we work in media.
Speaker 2 (16:31):
Yeah, and uh, oh I heard something yesterday. I was
uh back in my truck. You know, I was back
my truck in and uh in the driveway, so I
had the radio on and I heard something. I was
just like, just and I just turned off, Like it
goes straight in one direction. It's like, dude, you know,
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it's a horrible situation happening, and you're.
Speaker 1 (16:56):
Coming from working in the media. I just I want
to remind you of some in here that there are
very very few places you can go. And I'm saying
this as a member of the media. There are very
few places you can go, and I'm hard pressed really
to come up with one that is one hundred percent where.
Speaker 3 (17:14):
They will go both ways.
Speaker 1 (17:16):
No, we'll just look in the camera and just report
what happened. Just report what happened, and let let investigations unfold,
update as necessary.
Speaker 3 (17:27):
It's all.
Speaker 1 (17:28):
It's all fallen into commentary on whatever it is. Even
on what's supposed to be just a straight newscast, you
always get a slant. And it doesn't matter where you
are and how you feel about stuff. You know it's true.
Speaker 2 (17:40):
And that in the classes that we took in college,
we knew you don't do that if you're a if
you're a newscaster.
Speaker 3 (17:48):
That was one of the big rules.
Speaker 1 (17:50):
Yeah you report, yeah, report what you see, not how
you feel. And that's gone by the wayside. The goal
of media right now is I balls and clicks. Yeah,
eyeballs and clicks. The media is all about that, and
you have to kind of stop and remember that because
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it's very easy to fall into the trap of believing
whatever you see in here.
Speaker 2 (18:15):
It's very jaded and and somebody actually texted that in earlier.
I was trying to find the text, but I said,
media is one of the big problems with with the
problems that we have. They're one of the big you
know ones light in the wick because they're throwing out
all this shit and.
Speaker 3 (18:34):
We're in media.
Speaker 1 (18:36):
I want to give you another little dirty secret here
that I don't again because I follow this stuff in
front end, behind the scenes. You pull up whatever you know,
news station or cable news it is that you decide
to watch. All of them have this same formula. They'll
they'll discuss whatever the hot or controversial news story is
of the day, and then they call in the panel.
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The panel, you know how it goes, the two, three,
four people, and and what it is is it's a
it's a dog fight.
Speaker 2 (19:07):
It becomes a screaming match, almost like right out of
the gate.
Speaker 1 (19:10):
It does okay, and again clicks and eyeballs. Okay, keep
that in mind. That gets done, the camera turns off,
the panel goes home and goes out for drinks together afterwards.
Speaker 3 (19:21):
I'm not kidding. I know you're not. I'm not kidding.
Speaker 1 (19:24):
And you know they're making a living doing this, and
at the process is ripping us apart.
Speaker 2 (19:29):
Man, So it really sucks just.
Speaker 1 (19:32):
A few things if you weren't aware that that does
go on. That's how it is right here.
Speaker 2 (19:38):
The corrupt media is feeding all of this violence.
Speaker 1 (19:41):
Yeah, yeah, and all it takes is someone who's a
little bit off balance and not thinking clearly.
Speaker 3 (19:51):
And yeah, yesterday, Yeah, and.
Speaker 2 (19:55):
Just the late latest example, and we touched on this
earlier during the during our regular show. Those people who
go on social platforms and cheer about this or any
of them, you seriously got to check yourself because.
Speaker 3 (20:12):
That's fed up.
Speaker 2 (20:14):
I mean, somebody was murdered, somebody was assassinated, and you're, oh.
Speaker 1 (20:21):
They're an awful lot of people that I really don't
care for. But I certainly never hope for that, right
And I don't.
Speaker 2 (20:30):
Wow, I know, just really stop and think. If you're
one of the people that posted that.
Speaker 1 (20:39):
Charlie Kirk, remember remember God, family country. Let's hit the
family part with him. He's thirty one years old. Him
and his beautiful wife just had their second child, two
very young children.
Speaker 3 (20:50):
Yeah, and you've.
Speaker 1 (20:51):
Seen all the pictures. You can see he genuinely loves
his family, guy and made time for them amidst all
this NonStop busy schedule he had with Turning Point.
Speaker 2 (21:02):
So he lives running a massive organization, traveling all that
is a lot of time.
Speaker 1 (21:07):
Won't it hesitate to tell you that God guides him
with everything. Won't hesitate to tell you how much he
loves and cares about his family and how important he
believes the traditional family is, and certainly won't hesitate to
tell you how much he believes in the fabric of
this country and what it was was built and founded on.
And you know, tries to point out.
Speaker 2 (21:25):
And now that lovely wife and beautiful kids have to
and you grow up without him.
Speaker 1 (21:31):
And you got some six on the bitches applauding this.
Speaker 3 (21:34):
Yeah, it's just like the CEO.
Speaker 1 (21:37):
The same thing. It is the same thing.
Speaker 2 (21:39):
And again not comparing that shooting to what I'm saying
is the people that went on social media and cheered
about it.
Speaker 3 (21:45):
I don't give a shit if you hate big corporations.
Speaker 2 (21:47):
I'm not a huge fan either, but I'm not a
fan of somebody getting somebody walking up and shooting him
right in the back of the head point.
Speaker 3 (21:53):
But that is disgusting.
Speaker 1 (21:55):
YEA glorified the guy. The guy was, you know, mocked
up in like geez, his candles. I'm not even gonna
say his name, no, but and I just that's that's
some that's a thought pattern that I don't know if
there's a cure for. I just don't. I hope there is.
Speaker 2 (22:14):
Somebody said I would say the line to draw is
between those who at minimum are respecting his family and
then the people who are proudly celebrating his death. The
ones celebrating his death should be publicly shamed. They're publicly
shaming themselves because a lot of these dipshits are doing
it on social platforms.
Speaker 1 (22:34):
And I hope whoever, if they do, happen to have jobs, yeah,
something to do with hobody sees it. I hope their
employers see that. I really do, And I don't wish
anybody losing their job. God knows, we've lost our job before.
But uh, and we've done some stupid stuff.
Speaker 2 (22:49):
Timothy said, at the end of the day, he was
a husband and a father. It's a shame freedom of
speech led to this. Prayers for his family.
Speaker 3 (22:59):
Okay it is.
Speaker 1 (23:01):
And then let's let's hey, let's not let the whole
political game off here either. If you if your game
is calling someone you don't like, you know, Hitler or
a Nazi or a fascist or whatever. You keep repeating
that over and over and over again, knowing knowing it's
not true.
Speaker 3 (23:18):
You've got people.
Speaker 1 (23:19):
Again who are a little off take everything you say
at you know, like it's gospel, it's garbage and garbage
out man. So I just you watched yesterday on the
political level, all the big names all realize, oh, I
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better better put something out to you know, lower the temperature,
and yeah, okay, that's appreciated.
Speaker 2 (23:46):
But then you then you like the fuse back.
Speaker 1 (23:48):
Up a couple of days and that you're right back
to the same bullshit.
Speaker 2 (23:54):
So you know, it'd be really nice to see if
people could do something from this, as we talked about
I've said several times, would just be a little more
patient and understanding of other people's views, not just your own.
Speaker 1 (24:13):
Certainly didn't envision what we usually like to keep as
a lighthearted off the air podcast us having to do this,
but I.
Speaker 3 (24:20):
Think that's kind of our job, it is.
Speaker 1 (24:23):
And is it going to solve anything? Probably not, probably not.
Speaker 2 (24:28):
But at least some people hear it and could maybe.
Speaker 1 (24:30):
I hope it's a little from it, little therapeutic m
And thank you to all of you who are responding.
Is too many comments coming in to hit everybody back here,
but thank you yeah for understanding. And uh, unfortunately, you know,
things like this are probably going to continue to happen
until really more people get the message the memo, Hey,
(24:56):
keep in mind, let's hope you don't. You don't have
to hate someone just because you disagree with them.
Speaker 3 (25:01):
You don't have to hate anybody.
Speaker 2 (25:04):
Honestly, think about that, that simple phrase Pat just said.
You don't have to hate anybody because you disagree with them,
but at least discuss it. And even if it's at
the at the end of the day, even if you
agree to disagree, then that's fine.
Speaker 1 (25:19):
And the best, you know, the best thing in that
is if that you can't come to any resolve on
whatever it is.
Speaker 3 (25:25):
You have a beefo.
Speaker 1 (25:25):
At least you heard some of them. At least you
got to hear each other side of it. You have
to respect that, and then you just leave the topic alone.
You don't have to be how cool is that?
Speaker 3 (25:36):
Right?
Speaker 1 (25:36):
Just leave it alone. You know we're never going to
agree on everything, and if you understand that, and.
Speaker 2 (25:42):
Just you and I know that because we've worked together
so long. I walked in this morning and Pat's got
the face understandably heavy ass day on both sides.
Speaker 3 (25:51):
But he immediately said, this is.
Speaker 2 (25:55):
As I walk in the door, first time I've seen him,
and he said, this is really disturbing me. And I'm like,
it is really disturbing, and you have that right, and
I had the right to tell you. We need to
remember what kind of show we do that people expect.
We're definitely if we didn't talk about this this subject,
we should be fired.
Speaker 1 (26:15):
I'll tell you what's even more disturbing. What even disturbed
me more? Yesterday, as this always unfolding, my wife gets
home from work and she gets this news. She got
the news before I did. I was actually out back
with the dog.
Speaker 2 (26:31):
She she had got home from work, probably was driving
home listing.
Speaker 1 (26:35):
And she goes, oh my god, you gotta I'm like,
what what And we both sat down and my wife
is just shaking her head at one point as the
details were coming out, and they're showing the pictures of
his family and the little kids, and she's in tears.
She's in tears, just on a human level, all right.
Speaker 2 (26:56):
No sides taking, none of that.
Speaker 1 (26:57):
Just she's a person, yea, she just you know, that's
one of the things I love about her the most
is her compassion.
Speaker 2 (27:04):
And she immediately, well, shit, she's married, she's got to
be a compassion No, you're you're you're right, you're right.
Speaker 1 (27:11):
And then uh, my young twenty something daughter, she's college
aged in college, and she really hammered it home for me,
as you know, we started going back and forth on
the family text, and she told me straight up, she goes,
you know, Dad, Charlie is the reason I've changed my
mind on a lot of stuff that you tried to talk.
Speaker 3 (27:33):
To me about.
Speaker 2 (27:34):
Because if you are saying it's coming from.
Speaker 1 (27:36):
Dad, the old dad, what does he know, he's just grumpy.
But you got a younger guy who's you know, to
the younger crowd and right and knows how to talk
that language. I'm not gonna sit here and try to
pretend I am a good dad. I try to be
a good dad, and I just want the best for her.
And Okay, maybe sometimes the way I frame things not proper.
(27:59):
But he connected with her on a lot of levels.
And she said a lot of us because the age,
and she said, she goes, it's not just me. And
if you're looking at what's going on, you know a lot.
Speaker 2 (28:12):
Of people that come out to this and connecting to it.
Speaker 3 (28:15):
He was connecting to it. Shit go to people.
Speaker 1 (28:17):
He was doing something right. Yeah, a lot of people
will refuse to admit that, but he was connecting and
getting through where others were unable to.
Speaker 2 (28:30):
I have two daughters in college. I couldn't agree more.
Speaker 3 (28:33):
You know.
Speaker 1 (28:33):
And if you if if the folks who still hate
his guts and are celebrating his you know, demise, I
think you might be sadly mistaken that your problem is gone.
I think his message is now going to be amplified.
And an awful lot of people had no idea who
he was or what he was about.
Speaker 2 (28:53):
Do now, Yeah, and then they'll go and search some
stuff and watch and see you know, people discussing stuff, yes,
without fists and you know the.
Speaker 1 (29:06):
Bullets, yeah, or running people down or stabbing people or
whatever it is. It's just my god, almighty man. I
think we're gonna shut her down at.
Speaker 2 (29:17):
This point because thank you to everybody who too in
obviously a huge number of people.
Speaker 1 (29:22):
For thirty in the morning. I feel like I need
a shot at Jamison.
Speaker 3 (29:26):
We'll go for it.
Speaker 1 (29:27):
It's Thursday, right, all right, we'll do We'll do this again.
Speaker 2 (29:34):
Soon tomorrow, thank the Lord. It's Friday. Yeah, that's all.
Take time today to remember today.
Speaker 1 (29:42):
Yeah, remember today. Obviously the thousands lost twenty four years
ago today on nine to eleven. Don't ever, don't ever
let go of that memory.
Speaker 2 (29:54):
We're hearing from a lot of people that were in
the military at the time of that, and obviously to
anybody who has done military, thank you for your service.
We can't say that enough. But I could not imagine
being in the.
Speaker 1 (30:05):
Military change higher dynamic of the world.
Speaker 3 (30:08):
That all right, everybody, hey be safe.
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