December 3, 2025 • 20 mins
Orlando Sentinel columnist Scott Maxwell joins us to talk about the number of candidates running to become Florida's next governor, and with why accessible parking wasn’t created for pregnant moms.
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Dude after morning Colbert carew all right, Jack, Jim got
the crap, uh Dobe, you be you, You laugh like you,
you talk like you, you say bague like you. We
all love you just the way you are. Don't change anything.
Don't let these fools tell you otherwise. Oh and Jim, Yeah,
you could hold adult's mouth shut with your bare hands.
Speaker 2 (00:25):
It's not very hard.
Speaker 1 (00:26):
All their strength is in closing big t out.
Speaker 3 (00:31):
I'll put it in the bag bag doing a big
tea on the shelf.
Speaker 4 (00:36):
This year, I gotta find a hat small enough and
size third shoes.
Speaker 3 (00:45):
That is so perfect, so perfect.
Speaker 5 (00:52):
A big tea on the tree.
Speaker 3 (00:55):
All right, welcome back to the Jim Cober Show. We're
already one oh four point one. I am Jim.
Speaker 5 (00:59):
There's dead seriously a merchandising idea.
Speaker 4 (01:01):
Jack is here as well, And every single Wednesday around
this time, our good friend who writes for the Orlando Sentinel.
You can read his columns Wednesdays, Thursdays and Sundays. He
is a handsome devil. This guy has one of the
best smiles. He still has a fantastic head of hair.
Know it's a pretty good bourbon when he sees it.
A bit of a bit of a gambling problem, but
(01:23):
that's fine. No headboard, you guys give it up. Good
laud for sweetheat, mister Scott Maxwell.
Speaker 6 (01:28):
Yet Dragon, I know, I like you just gave everybody
my tender profile.
Speaker 3 (01:35):
What's going on, big dog? How you doing?
Speaker 6 (01:37):
You know that last night gentlemen told deb that she
shouldn't change.
Speaker 2 (01:42):
I would like to meet the poor son of a
you know what who thinks.
Speaker 3 (01:47):
They could change.
Speaker 5 (01:52):
Yeah, well, let's just.
Speaker 4 (01:53):
Say, left his ass in the dust. How's it going, buddy,
has things?
Speaker 2 (02:00):
Yeah, we're doing great. Well, I'm feeling good.
Speaker 6 (02:04):
Thinking about the next election. It's kind of gonna be crazy.
The governor's race is getting going. But yeah, things are
going fine. How about how about you?
Speaker 2 (02:11):
You know what, Jim, you always ask about me.
Speaker 3 (02:13):
How are you doing good? Buddy?
Speaker 4 (02:15):
You know, just doing the thing, looking forward to Christmas
break and spending some more time with the family and stuff.
Speaker 3 (02:20):
So that's pretty much it, you know.
Speaker 6 (02:22):
You know tonight we're gonna get kick it into high gear.
This uh, it's just a silly little thing. Have you
ever driven on seventeen ninety two and seen that one
church that on Mills, the Lutheran Church that puts anyway,
somebody suggested it is one hundred and one things that
like about Central Florida. I just threw it on there
(02:42):
and the pastor said, we're lighting the tree for the
first time tonight Wednesday at five forty five.
Speaker 2 (02:48):
So Sydney and I they invited, we're gonna go. We're
gonna go see.
Speaker 6 (02:51):
That Bell Tower light tree of lights get lit up
right after we're doing.
Speaker 4 (02:56):
I have to tell you, I believe I remember right
that Glenn Clawsman's wife had something to do with that
design or have something to do with that.
Speaker 5 (03:03):
I'm sure she did.
Speaker 4 (03:04):
Yeah, I think they're members there, and I think that she,
if I remember, she had something to.
Speaker 3 (03:09):
Do with that. You know, she's an interior designer in
Winter Park. So it's beautiful.
Speaker 4 (03:13):
I mean, it's really has been a staple in seventeen
ninety two and Winter Park for a very long time.
Speaker 3 (03:16):
You drive by, its beautiful, you know, lights up that
entire area.
Speaker 5 (03:19):
It's very elegant, you know, just like Missus Clause.
Speaker 6 (03:22):
Sure, yeah, that's that's kind of what I thought. And
when I like, there aren't a you know, Sortlando's not
that old, so there aren't a ton of traditions, but
that one, it turns out it's been going on for
about forty years and that and that I talked the
pastor said that they, you know, years ago, wanted to
do something. They ended up doing that, which probably goes
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I don't know, what's that eight stories high up to
the top of the bell tower, and it's basically become
kind of a beacon of Christmas for everyone who drives
along mills this time of years.
Speaker 4 (03:55):
I would agree with that one hundred percent, you know,
and you know, Winter Park being a bit of a
cottage town down there, really is a perfect lead in
for going down there to walk around and enjoy the holidays.
Wonder Park, I believe one of the more, you know,
one of the magical little areas of central Florida where
you can really get yourself in the mood for the holidays.
The way they decorate and the shops and the food
and whatnot down there, it's just a cool place.
Speaker 2 (04:14):
Yep. It is Saint John Lutheran Church.
Speaker 6 (04:17):
They've been doing that since the eighties. So we're gonna
go see that that get our kick our Christmas spirit
into high nice.
Speaker 4 (04:24):
That's great, man, I'm glad you're doing that that's awesome.
So you know you call every week to you know,
kind of talk about whatever. I mean, I read your
piece this morning. It's the yeah.
Speaker 5 (04:32):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (04:32):
On Wednesdays, one of the first things I do is
I crack open my sentinel or i'd log on I
should say yeah, and you know, read what you had
to write. I know that you usually do a couple
of pieces on Wednesdays. I know you put one out
a little bit later about the governor's choice. You know,
the choice for governor. I think it's I think Deb
and I and Jack are the only people not running
for governor in Florida this year.
Speaker 6 (04:51):
Do you know if you've already read the headline, you'd
be cheating, But just for if you haven't, do you
know how many people are filed who claim.
Speaker 2 (05:00):
They're running for governor right now in the state of Florida?
Speaker 3 (05:02):
I know the answer, So, Deb, do you think you know?
Speaker 5 (05:04):
Okay, nearly twenty ooh, that's that's a lot.
Speaker 3 (05:07):
I'll go thirty. Did you notice that? Did you notice
that when she said twenty he didn't flinch. Yeah, that's
why I went up. Yeah that Jack nailed it right?
Speaker 2 (05:15):
Really thirty one?
Speaker 6 (05:17):
Thirty one people have filed right now now, I should
stress to be real clear, most of the there are
a lot of these jack monkeys who won't be around.
Speaker 2 (05:24):
In June as soon as they have to.
Speaker 6 (05:27):
I mean, they asked them to pay like two bucks
to actually file to run for office in June, and
then they'll they'll run away. But yeah, right now there's
ten Republicans. I think it is six Democrats. I mean,
we got people from the Constitution Party, Libertarians.
Speaker 2 (05:40):
There's a partridge in a pear tree.
Speaker 6 (05:42):
But the most interesting thing is I mean, I think
Republics are going to win this race.
Speaker 2 (05:46):
I mean, this.
Speaker 6 (05:47):
State is pretty magacentric. This is I mean, yeah, I
checked the numbers this morning to remind myself. Trump won
by twelve Dysantis one by nineteen nineteen in a state
that was a swing state, a purple swing state like
twenty years.
Speaker 4 (06:01):
Yeah, one point three million more Republicans in Florida than Democrats,
and it gives them a marketed edge. If they can
even motivate a small percentage of those people to go
to the polls, it's virtually like it's almost impossible to
win for any other party.
Speaker 3 (06:13):
They select Jerry Mander.
Speaker 2 (06:16):
Yeah, it's hard to Jerry Mander the state. Yeah, that's right,
the entire state.
Speaker 6 (06:20):
But the interesting thing is, despite that, it's like, you know,
going to be for Republicans.
Speaker 2 (06:24):
I think it is not a coronation.
Speaker 6 (06:26):
There are at least sort of four serious or semi
serious candidates, and they're beaten the snot out of each
other and some This race has some people confused, including
Jim Colbert, your producer, who was bothering me over the
holiday weekend with.
Speaker 3 (06:40):
Questions about Jay Collins.
Speaker 6 (06:43):
Jay Collins and actually, Jack, you are absolutely not alone
because Jake Collins is the weirdest of the camp campaigns.
I just mentioned to you that thirty one people have
told the Division of Elections they're running.
Speaker 2 (06:55):
He's not one of them.
Speaker 4 (06:57):
Wait a minute, I must have seen hold on now,
I must have seen six to eight to maybe ten
commercials with this guy message. In every frame of it.
It was his face with DeSantis face.
Speaker 6 (07:11):
Correct, everyone is it is a the numbers, there are
folks who at track these things. More than three maybe
three and a half million dollars on a statewide ad
blitz nine months before the election for a guy who
claims he might not be running, and even more bizarrely
claims he doesn't know who's paying for them, and the
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reason we can't find out it's dark money ads. It's
almost I mean, it's certainly vested interest. I would say, Tallahassee,
I don't know yet who, whether it's Fertilizer, Big Sugar,
whether it's Florida Power, who knows, but it is a
dark money group that has put three point five million
dollars worth of ads the only guy.
Speaker 2 (07:51):
Who's on TV.
Speaker 6 (07:52):
And if you look closely at the end of the ads,
it doesn't say vote J.
Speaker 2 (07:55):
Collins for governor. It says thank J Collins for being us.
Speaker 4 (08:00):
Well, got that's interesting that I've not seen anything like
that before.
Speaker 6 (08:05):
Yeah, so he is the lieutenant governor. Now the interesting
I should say, the second most interesting thing about Jay
Collins is there's a reason he has not yes announced,
and that is because, despite the fact that he is
lieutenant governor to Rond de Santance, it has been widely
reported that Rond de Santas has refused to endorse him,
making him the world's worst wingman. Y. I mean, he's
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apparently just not sure he likes Jay or likes J. Collins' best.
Speaker 2 (08:32):
So he is not yet.
Speaker 4 (08:33):
I got to tell you, it's almost even worse like that, dude,
like he discounted him. When a reporter asked DeSantis about
j Collins being governor or something, he literally pea shawed
that question as if like, I mean, come on, man,
this is not a serious candidate.
Speaker 3 (08:47):
That was the vibe you got.
Speaker 7 (08:49):
Have we ruled out Casey DeSantis running? Yeah, which and
if that's the case, Governor DeSantis could not commit to
anyone if his wife would eventually be running.
Speaker 5 (09:01):
I think the issue is until they find those Hope
Florida vehicles. Every the thing on that is the word mom.
Speaker 6 (09:06):
I actually think you just nailed I think you nailed
every part of that. I think there is there's really
very few people who think Casey Desantish stands a good
shot at being governor.
Speaker 2 (09:17):
In fact, I think she might be one of the
few people that.
Speaker 6 (09:19):
Would open the door uh to Democrats because she has
nothing going for other than her last name, other than
this Hope Florida's scandal.
Speaker 2 (09:27):
And it's not just a newspaper stink. It's a bloody.
Speaker 6 (09:30):
Grand jury, right, and you don't have to look you
don't have to look at this story long to realize
it stinks.
Speaker 4 (09:35):
And a grand jury that that was propagated by Republicans
or at least us absolutely started by Republicans on Republicans
and Byrack Donald's is gonna get Matter of fact, I
think he already has Trump's endorsement, so it does.
Speaker 3 (09:47):
It's a real.
Speaker 2 (09:50):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (09:50):
I don't think there's a chance to Casey to Sandis
run slash wins.
Speaker 2 (09:54):
But I think Jack.
Speaker 6 (09:55):
Maybe right that if there's even the slightest chance that
Ron de Sandas's wife is still considering running, you can
see why he's going. Jay Collins, who lieutenant governor?
Speaker 3 (10:04):
What you listen to? A very interesting question.
Speaker 4 (10:06):
I did kind of want to talk about the parking
space thing because I do find that painful, But but
I do want to ask what do you see for
DeSantis after his governorship is done?
Speaker 2 (10:15):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (10:16):
Uh.
Speaker 6 (10:16):
There was some talk on Twitter today that he may
be the one chomping at the bit as uh hag
seth starts to be uh starts to take some flak
for double bombing and violating uh, you know, war crimes
acts potentially because you remember he was theoretically in the
running for Defense Secretary.
Speaker 2 (10:33):
Ron De Santas I did not know that.
Speaker 3 (10:35):
I did not know that.
Speaker 6 (10:36):
I thought he's got he's got he's gotten naval you know,
JAG credentials, and uh yeah.
Speaker 2 (10:42):
And my and my point to.
Speaker 6 (10:43):
That is I don't see a political future. There's no
lane for Ron DeSantis. He does not occupy the Magalane.
In fact, a lot of Magalan don't.
Speaker 3 (10:52):
They can't stand him.
Speaker 6 (10:53):
And I don't see any Republican coming out emerging victorious
in a presidential primary in the near future that doesn't
have MAGA support. So I don't see a political future
for him in the immediate term. So I think it'd
be something like that, some sort of appointment. And also
Trump turns turns through his cabinet people. I think some
(11:14):
people are surprised that guys like Marco Rubio and except
they're still.
Speaker 2 (11:17):
There as we're coming in on a year. So maybe
one of those.
Speaker 4 (11:20):
Positions, well, I would thought it would become maybe some
of the other cabinet members that had it more than
than Marco. I thought Marco was one of the more
qualified people in his cabinet, to be honest with you, Oh.
Speaker 2 (11:30):
Yeah, but don't. I don't have anything to do with that.
Speaker 3 (11:33):
It's popularity contest, some of his.
Speaker 6 (11:35):
Most trusted allies, remember Tillerson, some of this Trump became
his most you know, fierce advocates.
Speaker 7 (11:41):
I mean that's the difference between Trump first term and
Trump two point zero. I believe I don't think there's
quite the turnover in this second go round then it
was in his first because I think they had everything
lined up between from Project twenty five, Project twenty twenty five.
Speaker 3 (11:58):
All the way down.
Speaker 7 (11:59):
Is they they had a better plan the second time around.
Speaker 3 (12:04):
And he said that, yeah, he said that.
Speaker 4 (12:05):
Matter of fact, he said he didn't like the fact
that his cabinet really wasn't like they weren't symtom fatic
enough as this cabinet. So if you look at this cabinet,
I mean they had been the knee faster than anybody
out there.
Speaker 3 (12:15):
No, it really stands up. And that's why I like
when you said, when you said.
Speaker 4 (12:19):
DeSantis for Secretary of Defense, I think, you know, you know,
to his credit, I think DeSantis is one of the
few guys it's actually kind of stared at that dude
in the face.
Speaker 3 (12:26):
And at least kind of shown some spine to stand
up and go.
Speaker 4 (12:29):
You know, I'm not for that, but you know, and
I think that's one of the reasons they have a
little bit of about it.
Speaker 5 (12:33):
Stood up.
Speaker 6 (12:34):
But the only time Ron de Santas has stood up
is for his own ambition. I believe that is what
Ron de Santa's pride above anything else. You're right about
the cabinet. It looks like a foxnoze. Uh yeah, it's
all afternoon lineup. When they stood around there, I mean
you look at them all, it's it's it's kind of weird.
Speaker 2 (12:48):
Byron Donald.
Speaker 6 (12:49):
I do want to mention the pregnancy parking thing, but
Byron Donald's he's not going to have this smooth road.
In fact, you, Jim, you flagged a story before I
saw it. I mean, his wife is getting beat a
beaten right now. And I'd say legitimately, so at least
peppered with questions that basically CBS so I think was
take leading.
Speaker 2 (13:08):
They were coverage.
Speaker 6 (13:09):
Where they're looking at Florida's charter and voucher school movement,
which is just as we've discussed four years on this show.
I mean, ripe with all sorts of controversy, but here's
one where basically his wife, who's a mom's for liberty,
not just member she was one of the founder. She
was involved in setting up a number of these charter schools.
At least one of them never opened. You know, got
all this money, never opened, it's a shell of a building.
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And then they went and tracked through the finances and
while the school never opened, thirty percent of the school's
finances were going to private vendors that Byron Donald's wife's
was either invested or linked to.
Speaker 3 (13:43):
Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (13:43):
And the other thing about that is when you read
that story, and I suggest everybody does.
Speaker 3 (13:47):
It's a CBS news story.
Speaker 4 (13:48):
They talk about the fact that and they interview some
of the people who had enrolled in this school. Some
of these families moved across the country. They literally picked
up their entire family to move to Fort Myers to
be near this school that never ended up opening.
Speaker 3 (14:00):
And then her her.
Speaker 4 (14:01):
Statement after issuing it was just basically a paragraph from
her bio. Oh yeah, and it was just in the
hitting When you read it, it is literally like, this
is what I've done. Nothing approaching an answer to the
questions for these people who have put themselves out financially
on what they should do. Now, just this is what
I've done in my financial and my educational career.
Speaker 6 (14:22):
And these people who you're talking about who are now
raised in Hell, these are not natural born liberal critics.
These are hardcore conservatives who said everything you're telling me
about public school sucking, you know, and transgender rights or
DEI wanted to get away from that. These were true
believers and then they got there. And I mean the
images the aerial I guess they were drone images of.
Speaker 2 (14:43):
The school are pretty creepy. Man, There's there's nothing there.
Speaker 3 (14:47):
It looks like an unfinished project, which is exactly what
it is. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (14:50):
So anyway, I think they've got questions to answer.
Speaker 6 (14:52):
Not to mention one of the things that often gets
glossed over as Byraen Donalds was a Democrat not that
long not that long ago.
Speaker 4 (14:58):
A lot of a lot of the ranking Republicans, Donald
Trubles a Democrat what in twenty twelve. So, I mean,
it's just kind of wild how that all works out,
for sure. So the handicapped parking spot thing is very interesting.
We had about three minutes, so I don't know.
Speaker 6 (15:14):
That if everybody appreciated that this happened. But last year,
excuse me, earlier this year, during the legislative session, Florida
passed a law that basically entitles all pregnant women at
any stage of their pregnancy. You know, they get a
pregnancy test two months afterwards, it says they're pregnant to
start using handicapper what's known now more commonly called accessible parking.
(15:35):
Now they have to like pay fifteen dollars and get
a note confirming that they're pregnant.
Speaker 2 (15:39):
But it it doesn't appear this was very well thought through.
Speaker 6 (15:44):
And when I say it wasn't very well thought through,
it was sandwiched into a fifty two page bill in
between lines about traffic citations and the makeup of the
Greater Miami Expressway Authority. After one young female legislator said,
I got to be honest with you.
Speaker 2 (16:00):
I got to make a quote, right, I just want
to park at the.
Speaker 3 (16:03):
Front, right, Yeah, that's quote quote unquote.
Speaker 2 (16:08):
I just work up front. And everybody laughed. Here I
just want to be able to park up front.
Speaker 6 (16:14):
Representive Fiona McFarlane, Republican from Sarasota. She says the line,
all the legislators laugh, and then they pass it. And
so now every woman who's pregnant gets to use accessible parking.
Speaker 2 (16:25):
Well, you know who wasn't laughing.
Speaker 6 (16:27):
The people who actually need accessible parking, who say, who
have shared stories like the one that I cited in
my column today about getting into their locations an hour
early on a regular basis because they know there's only,
for instance, two of these spots.
Speaker 2 (16:41):
And it's not about being close, it's about having.
Speaker 6 (16:44):
Enough room, the sort of the aisles they have to
unfurrow a wheelchair ramp for a motorized thing. And I
got to tell you, I got a lot of response
to this column, and it was across the board. In fact,
it is rare I to this moment, I do not
think I can tell you any Republican, Democrat or otherwise
who went in and said, no, I think this is
a really good time. I mean, obstetricians are encouraging women
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to stay active, to cross it, to run marathons while
they're pregnant.
Speaker 4 (17:10):
Dude, my daughter is pregnant right now. In a million
trillion years, I do not give how. I don't care
how pregnant she could be. She would never ever ever
do that. She would park across the parking lot and
walk just like everybody else, because that's what her doctor
would tell her to do.
Speaker 2 (17:27):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (17:28):
Well, and do are there women who have complicated pregnancy
or absolutely And I think our sister paper, the Sun
Sentinel down in South Florida, their suggestion was, Okay, well
if we think this well, first of all, if legislators
think this is a real issue, then you create new
parking specifically for pregnant women. You don't take it from
a community that's already disadvantaged in struggling to.
Speaker 4 (17:48):
Find Scott some vendors. I know that Target does. I
don't think publics does. I don't think any of.
Speaker 3 (17:54):
The grocery stores do.
Speaker 4 (17:55):
But a number of retailers already have a pregnancy parking
space up there. It's like a we have a little
stork with the baby on the little sign that you know,
I mean I still time I park there.
Speaker 2 (18:05):
So there's general public agreement.
Speaker 6 (18:06):
This seems like a dumb idea, But what it may
also be is an illegal idea because a lot of
places have accessible parking not just because they're super you know,
kind people, but because it's the ADA.
Speaker 2 (18:18):
And so a group that.
Speaker 6 (18:19):
Represents the American with Disabilities Act is saying this totally
violates that law. So and the last thing I'll wind up,
because this just sums up Tallahassee in a nutshell some
TV station or it's New Service of Florida finally gets
feeling a McDonald and was like, did you think through
any of this?
Speaker 2 (18:34):
And by the way, it looks.
Speaker 6 (18:35):
Like it may be illegal, and she said, well, sometimes
we need the courts to vet these things out, and
sometimes after we file a bill, it's good to get
some data.
Speaker 2 (18:44):
No, you, nim Rod, it's good to get data.
Speaker 6 (18:46):
Before you file your bill, and you should research whether
it's legal before you pass it.
Speaker 4 (18:51):
And by the way, this is the guy that Scott
was talking about in the piece, and I suggest everybody
go to Orlando Sentinel dot com right now and read it.
But when you when you see the guy Jack, he
has to type with his nose. The correspondence that he
wrote back and forth with Scott took him an entire
day to type.
Speaker 6 (19:07):
Oh my god, yes, I asked j. His name is
JJ Holmes. After he sent it to me, I said, JJ,
if you don't mind me asking. It was like three paragraphs,
but I know he has an iPad and I said
how long did it take you to do this? And
he said all afternoon, And so it took him all
afternoon to explain why if he doesn't have an accessible park,
he can't a space, he can't leave his house.
Speaker 2 (19:30):
Took that took him all afternoon to explain.
Speaker 6 (19:32):
It took them about five minutes to laugh about Fiona
McDonald wanting a up close parking space and then give
it to Wow.
Speaker 3 (19:38):
Incredible.
Speaker 4 (19:40):
One of the many reasons you should read Scott's columns
every single week. You can find those at Orlando Sentinel
dot com. The subscription price is nominal, and I mean nominal,
very affordable to get the information that packed you here
in central Florida, in the central Florida area. I think
it's vital. And Scott, we always appreciate your calls and
your info and your your dogged want of the true ruth.
Speaker 2 (20:01):
I appreciate that. In the happy beginning of the holiday season,
all all right, good.
Speaker 7 (20:05):
Yaya, didn't love that laud Jack did not pla loud.
Speaker 3 (20:11):
It's it's a it's a golf clus he deserves more,
Give him more, does he enterprise?
Speaker 4 (20:17):
He's not on a cruise. All right, have fun at
the lighting tonight. It'll be fun all right beginning next week?
All right, four seven nine win six one o four
one back in just one second, with more of this
Dude after morning Colbert carew all right, Jack, Jim got
the crap, uh Dobe, you be you, You laugh like you,
you talk like you, you say bague like you. We
all love you just the way you are. Don't change anything.
Don't let these fools tell you otherwise. Oh and Jim, Yeah,
you could hold adult's mouth shut with your bare hands.
Speaker 2 (00:25):
It's not very hard.
Speaker 1 (00:26):
All their strength is in closing big t out.
Speaker 3 (00:31):
I'll put it in the bag bag doing a big
tea on the shelf.
Speaker 4 (00:36):
This year, I gotta find a hat small enough and
size third shoes.
Speaker 3 (00:45):
That is so perfect, so perfect.
Speaker 5 (00:52):
A big tea on the tree.
Speaker 3 (00:55):
All right, welcome back to the Jim Cober Show. We're
already one oh four point one. I am Jim.
Speaker 5 (00:59):
There's dead seriously a merchandising idea.
Speaker 4 (01:01):
Jack is here as well, And every single Wednesday around
this time, our good friend who writes for the Orlando Sentinel.
You can read his columns Wednesdays, Thursdays and Sundays. He
is a handsome devil. This guy has one of the
best smiles. He still has a fantastic head of hair.
Know it's a pretty good bourbon when he sees it.
A bit of a bit of a gambling problem, but
(01:23):
that's fine. No headboard, you guys give it up. Good
laud for sweetheat, mister Scott Maxwell.
Speaker 6 (01:28):
Yet Dragon, I know, I like you just gave everybody
my tender profile.
Speaker 3 (01:35):
What's going on, big dog? How you doing?
Speaker 6 (01:37):
You know that last night gentlemen told deb that she
shouldn't change.
Speaker 2 (01:42):
I would like to meet the poor son of a
you know what who thinks.
Speaker 3 (01:47):
They could change.
Speaker 5 (01:52):
Yeah, well, let's just.
Speaker 4 (01:53):
Say, left his ass in the dust. How's it going, buddy,
has things?
Speaker 2 (02:00):
Yeah, we're doing great. Well, I'm feeling good.
Speaker 6 (02:04):
Thinking about the next election. It's kind of gonna be crazy.
The governor's race is getting going. But yeah, things are
going fine. How about how about you?
Speaker 2 (02:11):
You know what, Jim, you always ask about me.
Speaker 3 (02:13):
How are you doing good? Buddy?
Speaker 4 (02:15):
You know, just doing the thing, looking forward to Christmas
break and spending some more time with the family and stuff.
Speaker 3 (02:20):
So that's pretty much it, you know.
Speaker 6 (02:22):
You know tonight we're gonna get kick it into high gear.
This uh, it's just a silly little thing. Have you
ever driven on seventeen ninety two and seen that one
church that on Mills, the Lutheran Church that puts anyway,
somebody suggested it is one hundred and one things that
like about Central Florida. I just threw it on there
(02:42):
and the pastor said, we're lighting the tree for the
first time tonight Wednesday at five forty five.
Speaker 2 (02:48):
So Sydney and I they invited, we're gonna go. We're
gonna go see.
Speaker 6 (02:51):
That Bell Tower light tree of lights get lit up
right after we're doing.
Speaker 4 (02:56):
I have to tell you, I believe I remember right
that Glenn Clawsman's wife had something to do with that
design or have something to do with that.
Speaker 5 (03:03):
I'm sure she did.
Speaker 4 (03:04):
Yeah, I think they're members there, and I think that she,
if I remember, she had something to.
Speaker 3 (03:09):
Do with that. You know, she's an interior designer in
Winter Park. So it's beautiful.
Speaker 4 (03:13):
I mean, it's really has been a staple in seventeen
ninety two and Winter Park for a very long time.
Speaker 3 (03:16):
You drive by, its beautiful, you know, lights up that
entire area.
Speaker 5 (03:19):
It's very elegant, you know, just like Missus Clause.
Speaker 6 (03:22):
Sure, yeah, that's that's kind of what I thought. And
when I like, there aren't a you know, Sortlando's not
that old, so there aren't a ton of traditions, but
that one, it turns out it's been going on for
about forty years and that and that I talked the
pastor said that they, you know, years ago, wanted to
do something. They ended up doing that, which probably goes
(03:43):
I don't know, what's that eight stories high up to
the top of the bell tower, and it's basically become
kind of a beacon of Christmas for everyone who drives
along mills this time of years.
Speaker 4 (03:55):
I would agree with that one hundred percent, you know,
and you know, Winter Park being a bit of a
cottage town down there, really is a perfect lead in
for going down there to walk around and enjoy the holidays.
Wonder Park, I believe one of the more, you know,
one of the magical little areas of central Florida where
you can really get yourself in the mood for the holidays.
The way they decorate and the shops and the food
and whatnot down there, it's just a cool place.
Speaker 2 (04:14):
Yep. It is Saint John Lutheran Church.
Speaker 6 (04:17):
They've been doing that since the eighties. So we're gonna
go see that that get our kick our Christmas spirit
into high nice.
Speaker 4 (04:24):
That's great, man, I'm glad you're doing that that's awesome.
So you know you call every week to you know,
kind of talk about whatever. I mean, I read your
piece this morning. It's the yeah.
Speaker 5 (04:32):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (04:32):
On Wednesdays, one of the first things I do is
I crack open my sentinel or i'd log on I
should say yeah, and you know, read what you had
to write. I know that you usually do a couple
of pieces on Wednesdays. I know you put one out
a little bit later about the governor's choice. You know,
the choice for governor. I think it's I think Deb
and I and Jack are the only people not running
for governor in Florida this year.
Speaker 6 (04:51):
Do you know if you've already read the headline, you'd
be cheating, But just for if you haven't, do you
know how many people are filed who claim.
Speaker 2 (05:00):
They're running for governor right now in the state of Florida?
Speaker 3 (05:02):
I know the answer, So, Deb, do you think you know?
Speaker 5 (05:04):
Okay, nearly twenty ooh, that's that's a lot.
Speaker 3 (05:07):
I'll go thirty. Did you notice that? Did you notice
that when she said twenty he didn't flinch. Yeah, that's
why I went up. Yeah that Jack nailed it right?
Speaker 2 (05:15):
Really thirty one?
Speaker 6 (05:17):
Thirty one people have filed right now now, I should
stress to be real clear, most of the there are
a lot of these jack monkeys who won't be around.
Speaker 2 (05:24):
In June as soon as they have to.
Speaker 6 (05:27):
I mean, they asked them to pay like two bucks
to actually file to run for office in June, and
then they'll they'll run away. But yeah, right now there's
ten Republicans. I think it is six Democrats. I mean,
we got people from the Constitution Party, Libertarians.
Speaker 2 (05:40):
There's a partridge in a pear tree.
Speaker 6 (05:42):
But the most interesting thing is I mean, I think
Republics are going to win this race.
Speaker 2 (05:46):
I mean, this.
Speaker 6 (05:47):
State is pretty magacentric. This is I mean, yeah, I
checked the numbers this morning to remind myself. Trump won
by twelve Dysantis one by nineteen nineteen in a state
that was a swing state, a purple swing state like
twenty years.
Speaker 4 (06:01):
Yeah, one point three million more Republicans in Florida than Democrats,
and it gives them a marketed edge. If they can
even motivate a small percentage of those people to go
to the polls, it's virtually like it's almost impossible to
win for any other party.
Speaker 3 (06:13):
They select Jerry Mander.
Speaker 2 (06:16):
Yeah, it's hard to Jerry Mander the state. Yeah, that's right,
the entire state.
Speaker 6 (06:20):
But the interesting thing is, despite that, it's like, you know,
going to be for Republicans.
Speaker 2 (06:24):
I think it is not a coronation.
Speaker 6 (06:26):
There are at least sort of four serious or semi
serious candidates, and they're beaten the snot out of each
other and some This race has some people confused, including
Jim Colbert, your producer, who was bothering me over the
holiday weekend with.
Speaker 3 (06:40):
Questions about Jay Collins.
Speaker 6 (06:43):
Jay Collins and actually, Jack, you are absolutely not alone
because Jake Collins is the weirdest of the camp campaigns.
I just mentioned to you that thirty one people have
told the Division of Elections they're running.
Speaker 2 (06:55):
He's not one of them.
Speaker 4 (06:57):
Wait a minute, I must have seen hold on now,
I must have seen six to eight to maybe ten
commercials with this guy message. In every frame of it.
It was his face with DeSantis face.
Speaker 6 (07:11):
Correct, everyone is it is a the numbers, there are
folks who at track these things. More than three maybe
three and a half million dollars on a statewide ad
blitz nine months before the election for a guy who
claims he might not be running, and even more bizarrely
claims he doesn't know who's paying for them, and the
(07:32):
reason we can't find out it's dark money ads. It's
almost I mean, it's certainly vested interest. I would say, Tallahassee,
I don't know yet who, whether it's Fertilizer, Big Sugar,
whether it's Florida Power, who knows, but it is a
dark money group that has put three point five million
dollars worth of ads the only guy.
Speaker 2 (07:51):
Who's on TV.
Speaker 6 (07:52):
And if you look closely at the end of the ads,
it doesn't say vote J.
Speaker 2 (07:55):
Collins for governor. It says thank J Collins for being us.
Speaker 4 (08:00):
Well, got that's interesting that I've not seen anything like
that before.
Speaker 6 (08:05):
Yeah, so he is the lieutenant governor. Now the interesting
I should say, the second most interesting thing about Jay
Collins is there's a reason he has not yes announced,
and that is because, despite the fact that he is
lieutenant governor to Rond de Santance, it has been widely
reported that Rond de Santas has refused to endorse him,
making him the world's worst wingman. Y. I mean, he's
(08:28):
apparently just not sure he likes Jay or likes J. Collins' best.
Speaker 2 (08:32):
So he is not yet.
Speaker 4 (08:33):
I got to tell you, it's almost even worse like that, dude,
like he discounted him. When a reporter asked DeSantis about
j Collins being governor or something, he literally pea shawed
that question as if like, I mean, come on, man,
this is not a serious candidate.
Speaker 3 (08:47):
That was the vibe you got.
Speaker 7 (08:49):
Have we ruled out Casey DeSantis running? Yeah, which and
if that's the case, Governor DeSantis could not commit to
anyone if his wife would eventually be running.
Speaker 5 (09:01):
I think the issue is until they find those Hope
Florida vehicles. Every the thing on that is the word mom.
Speaker 6 (09:06):
I actually think you just nailed I think you nailed
every part of that. I think there is there's really
very few people who think Casey Desantish stands a good
shot at being governor.
Speaker 2 (09:17):
In fact, I think she might be one of the
few people that.
Speaker 6 (09:19):
Would open the door uh to Democrats because she has
nothing going for other than her last name, other than
this Hope Florida's scandal.
Speaker 2 (09:27):
And it's not just a newspaper stink. It's a bloody.
Speaker 6 (09:30):
Grand jury, right, and you don't have to look you
don't have to look at this story long to realize
it stinks.
Speaker 4 (09:35):
And a grand jury that that was propagated by Republicans
or at least us absolutely started by Republicans on Republicans
and Byrack Donald's is gonna get Matter of fact, I
think he already has Trump's endorsement, so it does.
Speaker 3 (09:47):
It's a real.
Speaker 2 (09:50):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (09:50):
I don't think there's a chance to Casey to Sandis
run slash wins.
Speaker 2 (09:54):
But I think Jack.
Speaker 6 (09:55):
Maybe right that if there's even the slightest chance that
Ron de Sandas's wife is still considering running, you can
see why he's going. Jay Collins, who lieutenant governor?
Speaker 3 (10:04):
What you listen to? A very interesting question.
Speaker 4 (10:06):
I did kind of want to talk about the parking
space thing because I do find that painful, But but
I do want to ask what do you see for
DeSantis after his governorship is done?
Speaker 2 (10:15):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (10:16):
Uh.
Speaker 6 (10:16):
There was some talk on Twitter today that he may
be the one chomping at the bit as uh hag
seth starts to be uh starts to take some flak
for double bombing and violating uh, you know, war crimes
acts potentially because you remember he was theoretically in the
running for Defense Secretary.
Speaker 2 (10:33):
Ron De Santas I did not know that.
Speaker 3 (10:35):
I did not know that.
Speaker 6 (10:36):
I thought he's got he's got he's gotten naval you know,
JAG credentials, and uh yeah.
Speaker 2 (10:42):
And my and my point to.
Speaker 6 (10:43):
That is I don't see a political future. There's no
lane for Ron DeSantis. He does not occupy the Magalane.
In fact, a lot of Magalan don't.
Speaker 3 (10:52):
They can't stand him.
Speaker 6 (10:53):
And I don't see any Republican coming out emerging victorious
in a presidential primary in the near future that doesn't
have MAGA support. So I don't see a political future
for him in the immediate term. So I think it'd
be something like that, some sort of appointment. And also
Trump turns turns through his cabinet people. I think some
(11:14):
people are surprised that guys like Marco Rubio and except
they're still.
Speaker 2 (11:17):
There as we're coming in on a year. So maybe
one of those.
Speaker 4 (11:20):
Positions, well, I would thought it would become maybe some
of the other cabinet members that had it more than
than Marco. I thought Marco was one of the more
qualified people in his cabinet, to be honest with you, Oh.
Speaker 2 (11:30):
Yeah, but don't. I don't have anything to do with that.
Speaker 3 (11:33):
It's popularity contest, some of his.
Speaker 6 (11:35):
Most trusted allies, remember Tillerson, some of this Trump became
his most you know, fierce advocates.
Speaker 7 (11:41):
I mean that's the difference between Trump first term and
Trump two point zero. I believe I don't think there's
quite the turnover in this second go round then it
was in his first because I think they had everything
lined up between from Project twenty five, Project twenty twenty five.
Speaker 3 (11:58):
All the way down.
Speaker 7 (11:59):
Is they they had a better plan the second time around.
Speaker 3 (12:04):
And he said that, yeah, he said that.
Speaker 4 (12:05):
Matter of fact, he said he didn't like the fact
that his cabinet really wasn't like they weren't symtom fatic
enough as this cabinet. So if you look at this cabinet,
I mean they had been the knee faster than anybody
out there.
Speaker 3 (12:15):
No, it really stands up. And that's why I like
when you said, when you said.
Speaker 4 (12:19):
DeSantis for Secretary of Defense, I think, you know, you know,
to his credit, I think DeSantis is one of the
few guys it's actually kind of stared at that dude
in the face.
Speaker 3 (12:26):
And at least kind of shown some spine to stand
up and go.
Speaker 4 (12:29):
You know, I'm not for that, but you know, and
I think that's one of the reasons they have a
little bit of about it.
Speaker 5 (12:33):
Stood up.
Speaker 6 (12:34):
But the only time Ron de Santas has stood up
is for his own ambition. I believe that is what
Ron de Santa's pride above anything else. You're right about
the cabinet. It looks like a foxnoze. Uh yeah, it's
all afternoon lineup. When they stood around there, I mean
you look at them all, it's it's it's kind of weird.
Speaker 2 (12:48):
Byron Donald.
Speaker 6 (12:49):
I do want to mention the pregnancy parking thing, but
Byron Donald's he's not going to have this smooth road.
In fact, you, Jim, you flagged a story before I
saw it. I mean, his wife is getting beat a
beaten right now. And I'd say legitimately, so at least
peppered with questions that basically CBS so I think was
take leading.
Speaker 2 (13:08):
They were coverage.
Speaker 6 (13:09):
Where they're looking at Florida's charter and voucher school movement,
which is just as we've discussed four years on this show.
I mean, ripe with all sorts of controversy, but here's
one where basically his wife, who's a mom's for liberty,
not just member she was one of the founder. She
was involved in setting up a number of these charter schools.
At least one of them never opened. You know, got
all this money, never opened, it's a shell of a building.
(13:32):
And then they went and tracked through the finances and
while the school never opened, thirty percent of the school's
finances were going to private vendors that Byron Donald's wife's
was either invested or linked to.
Speaker 3 (13:43):
Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (13:43):
And the other thing about that is when you read
that story, and I suggest everybody does.
Speaker 3 (13:47):
It's a CBS news story.
Speaker 4 (13:48):
They talk about the fact that and they interview some
of the people who had enrolled in this school. Some
of these families moved across the country. They literally picked
up their entire family to move to Fort Myers to
be near this school that never ended up opening.
Speaker 3 (14:00):
And then her her.
Speaker 4 (14:01):
Statement after issuing it was just basically a paragraph from
her bio. Oh yeah, and it was just in the
hitting When you read it, it is literally like, this
is what I've done. Nothing approaching an answer to the
questions for these people who have put themselves out financially
on what they should do. Now, just this is what
I've done in my financial and my educational career.
Speaker 6 (14:22):
And these people who you're talking about who are now
raised in Hell, these are not natural born liberal critics.
These are hardcore conservatives who said everything you're telling me
about public school sucking, you know, and transgender rights or
DEI wanted to get away from that. These were true
believers and then they got there. And I mean the
images the aerial I guess they were drone images of.
Speaker 2 (14:43):
The school are pretty creepy. Man, There's there's nothing there.
Speaker 3 (14:47):
It looks like an unfinished project, which is exactly what
it is. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (14:50):
So anyway, I think they've got questions to answer.
Speaker 6 (14:52):
Not to mention one of the things that often gets
glossed over as Byraen Donalds was a Democrat not that
long not that long ago.
Speaker 4 (14:58):
A lot of a lot of the ranking Republicans, Donald
Trubles a Democrat what in twenty twelve. So, I mean,
it's just kind of wild how that all works out,
for sure. So the handicapped parking spot thing is very interesting.
We had about three minutes, so I don't know.
Speaker 6 (15:14):
That if everybody appreciated that this happened. But last year,
excuse me, earlier this year, during the legislative session, Florida
passed a law that basically entitles all pregnant women at
any stage of their pregnancy. You know, they get a
pregnancy test two months afterwards, it says they're pregnant to
start using handicapper what's known now more commonly called accessible parking.
(15:35):
Now they have to like pay fifteen dollars and get
a note confirming that they're pregnant.
Speaker 2 (15:39):
But it it doesn't appear this was very well thought through.
Speaker 6 (15:44):
And when I say it wasn't very well thought through,
it was sandwiched into a fifty two page bill in
between lines about traffic citations and the makeup of the
Greater Miami Expressway Authority. After one young female legislator said,
I got to be honest with you.
Speaker 2 (16:00):
I got to make a quote, right, I just want
to park at the.
Speaker 3 (16:03):
Front, right, Yeah, that's quote quote unquote.
Speaker 2 (16:08):
I just work up front. And everybody laughed. Here I
just want to be able to park up front.
Speaker 6 (16:14):
Representive Fiona McFarlane, Republican from Sarasota. She says the line,
all the legislators laugh, and then they pass it. And
so now every woman who's pregnant gets to use accessible parking.
Speaker 2 (16:25):
Well, you know who wasn't laughing.
Speaker 6 (16:27):
The people who actually need accessible parking, who say, who
have shared stories like the one that I cited in
my column today about getting into their locations an hour
early on a regular basis because they know there's only,
for instance, two of these spots.
Speaker 2 (16:41):
And it's not about being close, it's about having.
Speaker 6 (16:44):
Enough room, the sort of the aisles they have to
unfurrow a wheelchair ramp for a motorized thing. And I
got to tell you, I got a lot of response
to this column, and it was across the board. In fact,
it is rare I to this moment, I do not
think I can tell you any Republican, Democrat or otherwise
who went in and said, no, I think this is
a really good time. I mean, obstetricians are encouraging women
(17:07):
to stay active, to cross it, to run marathons while
they're pregnant.
Speaker 4 (17:10):
Dude, my daughter is pregnant right now. In a million
trillion years, I do not give how. I don't care
how pregnant she could be. She would never ever ever
do that. She would park across the parking lot and
walk just like everybody else, because that's what her doctor
would tell her to do.
Speaker 2 (17:27):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (17:28):
Well, and do are there women who have complicated pregnancy
or absolutely And I think our sister paper, the Sun
Sentinel down in South Florida, their suggestion was, Okay, well
if we think this well, first of all, if legislators
think this is a real issue, then you create new
parking specifically for pregnant women. You don't take it from
a community that's already disadvantaged in struggling to.
Speaker 4 (17:48):
Find Scott some vendors. I know that Target does. I
don't think publics does. I don't think any of.
Speaker 3 (17:54):
The grocery stores do.
Speaker 4 (17:55):
But a number of retailers already have a pregnancy parking
space up there. It's like a we have a little
stork with the baby on the little sign that you know,
I mean I still time I park there.
Speaker 2 (18:05):
So there's general public agreement.
Speaker 6 (18:06):
This seems like a dumb idea, But what it may
also be is an illegal idea because a lot of
places have accessible parking not just because they're super you know,
kind people, but because it's the ADA.
Speaker 2 (18:18):
And so a group that.
Speaker 6 (18:19):
Represents the American with Disabilities Act is saying this totally
violates that law. So and the last thing I'll wind up,
because this just sums up Tallahassee in a nutshell some
TV station or it's New Service of Florida finally gets
feeling a McDonald and was like, did you think through
any of this?
Speaker 2 (18:34):
And by the way, it looks.
Speaker 6 (18:35):
Like it may be illegal, and she said, well, sometimes
we need the courts to vet these things out, and
sometimes after we file a bill, it's good to get
some data.
Speaker 2 (18:44):
No, you, nim Rod, it's good to get data.
Speaker 6 (18:46):
Before you file your bill, and you should research whether
it's legal before you pass it.
Speaker 4 (18:51):
And by the way, this is the guy that Scott
was talking about in the piece, and I suggest everybody
go to Orlando Sentinel dot com right now and read it.
But when you when you see the guy Jack, he
has to type with his nose. The correspondence that he
wrote back and forth with Scott took him an entire
day to type.
Speaker 6 (19:07):
Oh my god, yes, I asked j. His name is
JJ Holmes. After he sent it to me, I said, JJ,
if you don't mind me asking. It was like three paragraphs,
but I know he has an iPad and I said
how long did it take you to do this? And
he said all afternoon, And so it took him all
afternoon to explain why if he doesn't have an accessible park,
he can't a space, he can't leave his house.
Speaker 2 (19:30):
Took that took him all afternoon to explain.
Speaker 6 (19:32):
It took them about five minutes to laugh about Fiona
McDonald wanting a up close parking space and then give
it to Wow.
Speaker 3 (19:38):
Incredible.
Speaker 4 (19:40):
One of the many reasons you should read Scott's columns
every single week. You can find those at Orlando Sentinel
dot com. The subscription price is nominal, and I mean nominal,
very affordable to get the information that packed you here
in central Florida, in the central Florida area. I think
it's vital. And Scott, we always appreciate your calls and
your info and your your dogged want of the true ruth.
Speaker 2 (20:01):
I appreciate that. In the happy beginning of the holiday season,
all all right, good.
Speaker 7 (20:05):
Yaya, didn't love that laud Jack did not pla loud.
Speaker 3 (20:11):
It's it's a it's a golf clus he deserves more,
Give him more, does he enterprise?
Speaker 4 (20:17):
He's not on a cruise. All right, have fun at
the lighting tonight. It'll be fun all right beginning next week?
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