04-04-24 Hour 2 of Broncos Country Tonight

Episode Transcript

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Welcome to it Broncos Country tonight.But with all Brian Nick Ferguson Grant Smith,
it's some interesting news lately about thiscollege football super League, the interesting
premise that you know, I mean, we've talked about on this show how
I want college football to go toalmost an English Premier League style relegation system.
But this is a new kind ofthing. That an idea that they've

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come up with, and the ACCI believe sat down the SEC Big Ten,
I think they canceled their their sitdowns in this. But I want
to go. I want to getsomebody who knows a little bit more about
it get a chance to talk aboutit. So let's go to the KA
Comments Barrells hotline and check out withPete Futach of College Footballnews dot Com.
Pete, how you doing this evening? I'm fine. How you guys been

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doing pretty well? I saw thisstory about this the super League, and
I think we all probably aren agreementto college football is headed towards a super
league, if it's not already tentativelythere. I was gonna say first to
stop you there, but what doyou think college football has been for one
hundred and fifty I mean, we'rethe whole I get Oh no, the

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Big ten and SEC are going totake over. Well in about what is
we're three weeks four weeks away fromright now, You're gonna notice that,
for like the umpteenth straight year,about forty two to forty six percent of
the NFL draft is going to bemade up all of Big ten SEC players
and it's only gonna get weirder now, Uh, with the the expansion,

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it's gonna those two conferences are gonnaif you take the new uh, the
Oregans and the Colorados and Arizonas ofthe world too, it's gonna be over
fifty percent. It's we're already there, especially when it comes to revenue production,
and even beyond that, we're pastthat. The Big tens bigger than
the SEC. So this idea ofthe Super League, we're kind of in

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that world already. Well, Pete, you know, obviously this is a
conversation about the Super League and we'rejust talking about football here, but you
have to think, based on Titlenine, we're going to have to include
women's sports in this whole mix aswell. So with that being said,
have you heard any dialogue that wouldstay that with the formation of these super

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leagues. There's going to be atrigger down effect for women's athletics. All
right, I'm going to talk reallyout of my butt here because I think
I kind of know this, butnot really. I think this that you
want to, not that I'm thinkingabout it. I think this gets around
that because the way this would workis it really would all of a sudden,
because Title nine is really about it'sthe point of that is making sure

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it's equal access and equal benefits UHfor for both men and women. UH
is coming from the school and theuniversity, if it's from a business or
hedge fund or a league, orif it's some other way of Again I'm
just talking here. I think thatthat's not it doesn't become a thing like

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because if all of a sudden,for example, if some you know,
trillion dollar hedge fund guy decides thattheir good company is gonna they're going to
bag bankroll this, and all ofa sudden, you know, Alabama quarterbacks
getting paid eight million a year.I don't think that means that a women's
volleyball player or something then has toalso equally make eight million a year.
So I think this is the onlyreason why they're really talking about this,

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it's not even about competitive ballots.And as much as as awesome as English
Premier League relegation is, because that'sthose games are actually the most funds,
it's all desperation. You're not gonnahave that. Because the problem with the
idea of relegation one, it's notthese aren't colleges. I mean, these
are universities. They're supposed to kindof be about learning and stuff, and

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it's not really about the sports.And plus these are these TV contracts and
media deals are so far in advance. I mean we're talking twenty thirties and
hopefully we're still all around. Butby the time these you know, media
deals stop and yeah, who areyou going to relegate Northwestern? You're going
to relegate cal You're going to relegateDuke, You're gonna really gate Vanderbilt.

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Well, these TV deals are kindof predicated on having the Chicago in San
Francisco and Nashville market, so it'sI don't think you get the relegation part.
So the real key to doing thisis right now the colleges and all
these places they are trying to figureout how to get out of the anti
trust lawsuits that are coming that aresaying that, hey, you guys are
keeping all the money to yourselves.These guys and women now are really employees

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and they should be getting paid byyou guys. And because at that point,
you don't want to start having collegespaying for players and college athletes,
especially when you're you've got kids whoare paying, you know, ninety thousand
dollars a year to go to Syracuse. They're like, wait, why are
we paying money to get a youknow, a linebacker when you know,
all these college tuitions are bad.So it's a bad look. So this

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is a way to probably get aroundthat. With that said, I don't
think it's going to happen. Wellyeah, I mean obviously with the SEC.
So he's not even sitting down andcanceling their sit downs on this idea
that this seems far fatt However,for college football remain viable, it feels
like that they need a one anenforcement mechanism, more agency that works significantly

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better than the nc double A,which has been frankly terrible at that.
The NCAA has been great for logistics, but just about everything else, it's
been staggeringly awful at and you know, we moved from the fourteen playoff,
which felt like not you know thatthat was not enough to what are we
up to now? Sixteen teams orwhatever it is, which feels like it's
over overdone. There's got to besome middle ground here that we can find

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that makes college football funfair, viableand and isn't you know, I don't
know the mess that it kind ofcurrently is. Let me go back to
this. It's never been viable forsome programs. I mean, Purdue's never
going to win the national championship infootball. I mean, it's just it's
it's just not that it's always beenthey have to have not. And the

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other part of this that we're talkingabout this now was that April four,
we're talking about this now when missionand is trying to go hit that goal
line stand in overtime to stop jaland no Row in Alabama. Did anybody
care about Connor Stallions at that point? No, you know, all this
stuff about oh, Florida State,they're gonna sue this and do this,

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and oh my gosh, we're gonnayou know, we're gonna get rid of
the college Football Playoff corruption all thefixtures that that kind of went away after
they got whacked sixteen six to threeor whatever. I mean, it's it's
all all this stuff that once theball gets kicked off, people tend to
not care. I mean, becauseyou have to remember also that for all
the stuff we're talking about right now, for ninety three percent of the people

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out there, college football is nothinguntil August at the very least. So
it's all these I get what you'resaying, but I'm with you on the
cooked up playoff. But still atthe moment, all the pro leagues,
at least half the teams get inin you know, the NTAs Men's basketball
Tournament, something like nineteen percent ofthe teams get in. And even with

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the sixteen team, you're still talkingabout only like ten percent of all college
football team. So it's still gonnabe really hard to get in. And
that on the positive side to kindof, you know, help me out
on a positive note here, Decemberis gonna be awesome. It's just I
mean, the bull games that theythink so bad now they're boring. Everyone
outs out and nobody cares, buteveryone kind of watches because there's nothing else

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to do in December except NFL onSaturdays. But going starting with the Well,
how they've got this stuck or setup is that starting right out of
the gate from the now, theconference championships are going to be massive because
those are playoff games. They getin and get a first round by U
and then you've got the first roundon the home sites and it's just going

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to carry all the way through.The negatives here is it's going to go
all the way through to January twentyif it's too long, but it's still
gonna be a fun December. Now, how much involvement should anyone and the
NFL league off is be involved withI guess any dogs or the construction of

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these super leagues? And if theleague were to do that, wouldn't that
kind of jeopardize their antitrust laws.Yeah, there's a whole bunch of parts
to that, and it kind ofgoes hand to hand with the discussion right
now that's happening when it comes tobasketball side of things. Well, you
know it's awesome that you know,the women's side is is kicked in And
why is it really awesome right now? It's because there's that's where the superstars

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are, That's where the cait andClarks are and the Page Buckers and the
Angel Ress. They're because they're therebecause they don't really have another option.
So the superstars, you know,these women rose up at the right time
and right now they're great. It'sa fun parlor game in bart trick to
play. Ask anybody to name aYukon men's basketball player. They can't.
Nobody could do it. There's justno stars like there were, you know

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before Kobe and Kevin Lebron decide tonot go to college and go right to
the pro. So, uh,there's a star power aspect to this side
of things here. Uh, Andto be partly because the on the men's
college basketball side, a lot ofthem are going to the G League,
or they're going across the world.They're playing in Greece, they're playing in
China, they're playing elsewhere because theycan. That's going to change now with

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nil and what people are going toplay at college basketball again. But a
long winded way of saying, you'renot if you're the NFL, you don't
really want to mess with this becauseyou don't want to start. You want
to the college is to sort ofstip through the eighteen and nineteen year old
body is to be crude about itand before they became mature and figure out
who's who and who's what, becauseat the end of the day, we

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all think about these as minor leaguesand all the talent that's coming out here.
But it's really hard for even theNFL guys. Remember, I mean,
it's a crazy stat but after thethird round of the NFL Draft in
a couple of weeks, you gotabout ten chance of getting a starter who's
going to do anything for you forthree years. It's just it falls off

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a cliff. There's only like onehundred guys a year who really matter in
this thing. So you don't reallywant to do any anything if you're in
the NFL because colleges are doing itall for you to kind of stiff through
who the good players are, what'sgonna Talking with Pete Futec College Footballnews dot
Com, it's interesting that you saythat because the NFL was involved in consulting
on this super league idea, soyou feel like they don't want to,

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you know, they don't want toget involved and mess up the cash cow,
the golden ghost that's been feeding themfor years. However, they seem
to be putting their foot in thewater on trying to organize this stuff anyway.
They're trying to figure out a wayto make more money. I mean,
they don't don't worry about whatever thecombination you know XFL thing that's happening
right now, that's not a problemfor them. And they don't really have

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to worry about college. I mean, the NFL is the NFL. It's
just a bigger giant. It's justthe thing, obviously, and so they
don't really have to mess with thistoo much. But I do think if
they're if they're seeing this and they'resaying, you know what, maybe if
we did figure out a way toreally make this sort of a feeder system
or really make alliances, you knowhow some way make it almost like a

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triple A like in baseball, ormaybe there's they're really kind of spitballing around
right now just to kind of seeif there's something there. The problem with
all this is that none of thesecolleges are going to want to give up
their rights, their power, theirmoney, any of that stuff. And
the branding's not going to change,and where this kind of changes as well,
by this eighty team super league isnot going to happen it's because they're

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talking about for this to work,they're going to go to they would go
to like eight leagues, eight leaguesof the conferences of ten teams, where
no one wants to ditch the Bigten branding, not now, and if
it does, it's not going tohappen for fifteen years because of all the
contracts in play. So it's aninteresting idea, and I think they're all
this kind of saying, hey,we've got all this money here, how

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can we figure this out and makemore? So this is just kind of
a fun idea that got thrown outthere, and again, I will be
shocked if anything really comes with it. Well, speaking of branding, I
mean, obviously the CU Buffs hada brand back in the early nineties,
but that brand has somewhat been revitalizedby Coach Prime. So I want to

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get your take on what do youthink about Coach Prime and what he's done,
not just for to see you boffs, but just for college football in
general. Full disclosure, he's probablymy favorite athlete of all time. I
could not have been a bigger Dionfan during his days, So I'm a
little skewed with my thoughts process Iam really interested. And this is this

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is where this is where this isgonna get kind of interesting, because he
really is kind of showing what you'resupposed to do in the modern era.
Whereas we have the recruiting world kindof you still have to kind of recruit
a little bit. You still haveto build. You still have to get
the guys, you know, theeighteen year old guys and get him in
a weight room for two or threeyears and figure out what you got.

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I mean, there is some elementsof that, but what Prime's doing is
like right out of the gating sayingwe're gonna be good right away. So
he just one gotten a lot ofgood players. It's really hard to do,
though, and what last year sortof showed is you can have superstar
skill guys. You can get speeds, you can get great, flashy guys,
but depth is really tough and gettingthe lines are hard. And that's

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where the that's where the you justhave to suffer is there's no really easy
way to do it to put togethera starting five on that offensive front and
to keep finding the killers on thedefensive side. Look at the look at
USC they've had a hard time figuringout that defense, and that's the USC.
Uh. It just it's so hard. And that was the problem last
year where you know, the styleof offense. You know, Shador Sanders

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was getting you know, beaten upat the end. So uh, but
it's still fun. You still coachTrime. It's he created a stir.
He created a whole lot of funand then they finished in the last place
from the PAC twelve. But itwas a whole lot of fun while last
last year isn't. Isn't the funpart of the branding though. I mean,
if you look at the modern wayto recruit, I mean you basically

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have two paths to trying to builda powerhouse now and that's with a lot
of money in l A and Ideals or creating a culture in which people
want to be associated with all ofthe same way that Oregon data now with
the uniforms and all that in theway Colorado. Is that the path going
forward for recruiting in college football.Yeah. And then and that's the other
part of this is where the nil'sbuilt in, where you do have the

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collectives, which I, as God'smy witness, I do not understand nil
collectives. I do this for aliving. I've researched it. I know
these I don't get why people givetheir money into these collectives. I mean,
look, look at the Arizona basketballteam this year. You know how
much money it took to put thatteam together and for what you know,
it's it's just the return on investmentjust isn't there. Especially basketball is easy

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joy he is a couple of guys. Football is impossible. So the one
real big positive with Dion and cu way of doing it, like you
said, there is a built inbranding to all that that maybe other players
who can come in can see offof that. Because as soon as this
thing kicked in last year, atleast for those first the first month,

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instantly, what do we get wegot I think it was a Google ads
that they were in. At leastthe sons were in. I think they
were KFC. Yeah, thank you, And they're the KFC. I mean,
And that's kind of what you're saying, because yeah's cool. And so
who knows the idea of marketing andsports better than that guy when it comes
to doing all this. So thereis plus the fact that it just put

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them on the map, Like,look, my kids could not possibly care
any less about sports even though there'sbeen a sporting event on in this house,
every waking moment of their lives justrobbed off. But when Colorado was
the cool thing, all of asudden, my kid who was with the
college is like, you guys shouldlook at Colorado like that. That's the
value of you know, college sports, and that's what we kind of forget

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is college sports are nothing more thanone entertainment and two a pr arm for
the college. And if you havea good pro i mean good college football
team, all of a sudden,it changes everything. I mean, go
on college tour and everybody just wantsto see the football stadium, whether they
care about sports or not, becausenagiums are cool. So so yeah,
all of a sudden, if youget people looking at Colorado and you get

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someone on that campus and they see, wait a minute, this Boulder is
pretty amazing and this is a beautifulschool. That's everything. You've done your
job as a pr arm of theschool. Pete Futech College Footballnews dot Com
pe. We always appreciate time.Anytime, guys have a great one.
Take care. Lisenbroncos Country tonight On, k Wait, Benjamin all Bright,
Neck Ferguson Grass Smith. We comeback. We're gonna talk about how I

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feel left out that I don't haveprescription I wear. Welcome back to It,
Broncos Country Tonight, Benjamin Albrighten,Nick Ferguson, Grant Smith here with
you. I feel left out becauseNick Ferguson has debuted corrective lenses for the
first This is the first time you'veworn glasses that I've ever seen. They
look good on them too, thecool glasses. Thank you. Why do

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you say corrective lenses make it seemlike I'm blind? You you put them
on because you can't see something?Right? No, No, that's not
see, that's not see. Nowhe's pulling the Ryan Edwards you. That's
not what I did. Let's see. I put them on because I don't
have to wear them, but Ihave them just in case, like,
because of what we do. We'reconstantly looking at our phones and we're looking

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at monitors, and sometimes that canreally take a toll on your eyes.
So if I choose to wear them, I can wear them, but I
don't have to. But would yousay that they correct your vision? I'm
not saying anything. How about toget that Grant looks weird when he doesn't

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wear glasses. Now, Like,when I see Grant without glasses, I'm
like, what is going on?I am truly blind, but I men
like sixty Yeah, yeah, okay, so blind. I have an incredible
vision, but my hearing is awful. Like I have these headphones cranked so
hard, I'm gonna be deaf fiftythat's yes. And look, do you

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have the ability to turn down thevolume? I really can't because then I
can't hear. Wow, man,is that bad? Yeah? My hearing
is terrible. What did I justsay? What? But I like,
I'm so now I feel jealous becauseeverybody here's got like a cool, fashionable
eyewear, and I'm like, well, you can always get a pair and

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not I wear. I think Grantat that point the opposer, not if
you're looking at screens office exactly,but the amount of time you're on the
letter exactly. It may be goodfor you, Yes, it may be
good for you. Yeah, Igotta keep this eyes because don't. Yeah,
we don't want him to lose bothhis hearing and his vision at the

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same time. Right, there's aHell and Keller joke in here somewhere.
But I look, yeah, Iwas just I thought. It was like,
wow, Dick's got glasses. Yes, this is a new look.
Yes, they've always been in mybag. I see him every time.
And I was like, you knowwhat, I'm looking at my phone and
the monitor mice, but pull themout. I will tell you the thing

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about glasses making me look smarter.You just went up like fifty Ike,
right now, I need wanted thename of those glasses. That's gonna be
my next frames. Yeah, waslike, and they got kind of the
horn room kind of you know,yeah, I take a mendical glass.
I appreciate it. Now. Thenwhile you guys are sitting over here,

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Gaul getting all the food I'm eatinglike I'm pregnant. Well, well Granton
noticed it first because I didn't seewhat I can't see because where your monitory
is how much food? That's becauseso you don't judge. Brand sells me
out a whole Chipotle ball, twodouble cheeseburgers, and now you're eating some
doughnuts. Look, I'm a growingboy, all right, Where is he
putting this stuff now? That hasn'tgotten that much bigger? Yes, I'm

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just look, I don't I startworking out like I went. I went
for jogging. Maybe it's yogging soft. I don't know, but I went.
I went, you know, runningtoday a little bit for for a
little bit, and I'm starving.I'm starving, like worse thing the hunger
I get when I'm using medicinal remedies, that the horriful medications medication. But
how far did you run for twomiles? Two miles? Was it a

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kind of like a walk jog paceor was it like a really speedy pace
between It was a comfortable job.I didn't want to push it too much
because I've just barely started getting backout there do that. So the first
week I just walked and then uh, then I started jogging, and I'm
like, okay, I'm not backto like because I used to run two
miles in like nine minutes. Idon't like I'm not nowhere near that.
So I'm p t in the army. I'm out of time. Yeah,

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we are two our physical fitness tests, my two mile times were always between
nine minutes and ten minutes for twomiles? Are you carrying how much?
You know? When you run inthe when you run the test, you
don't have to carry out Okay,I mean you do like when we do
exercises for fun, we do rucksacksand stuff like that, but not but
I don't know, man, likewhatever it is, Like, I am
famished right now, so I've justbeen putting away. I tried to be

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somewhat healthy with the chamautle McDonald Wellwe're here, look at a close say
it was that or Taco Bell andI'm like, all right, I'm not
making a run for the border.Twice so I went over to McDonald's to
get a couple of cheeseburgers. I'mlike, all right, well, I
just have to make do with this. And then that wasn't enough, So
now polishing auso missus Freshley's from outof the vending machine. I was wondering,
like Ben got up from the stitiotwice doing the break and he walked

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out. I'm like, where's hegoing? And if it was if it
were not for you, I wouldn'thave noticed how much stuff he is consumed
because where his monitor is as I'mlooking to him to my right, it
is kind of low, so Ican't see what's on the table literally in
his position. Shield me for yourjudgment. You're gonna be in trouble if
you're a metabolism. Ever slid down, you tell me about it. That's

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why I gotta keep jogging. Fivesix, six, nine zeros in text
line. The NFL kickoff rule change, we talked about that a little bit,
Yes, but you texted me thismorning and you said you had an
angle somebody hadn't even thought of yet. Well, yeah, because obviously when
you look at it, it's goingto enhance a field position shouldn't exposed to
plays. And it brought back thewhole idea and the concept of the returner,

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right, And I love that aspectof it. But as I was
looking at this further and saying,okay, well, when teams started to
construct their teams, what type ofpersonnel they're gonna need for guys who are
blocking and then guys who have theability being that five yards away being able
to maneuver around the person in frontof him. So I started thinking about

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a bunch of skilled players. Butthere's an aspect of this new kickoff rule
that should help the overall game,and that's tackling. Because we've watched tackling
and and for me, I'm astickler for tackling. I get upset one
night exactly, and I do thisthe spur thing I from home, I

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throw my hat at the television.Yes, yes, strictly for that.
And then if I'm at a game, I may mumble a couple of words.
But if I'm at home by myself, which I typically do because my
family doesn't want to watch games withme, I use some colorful language.

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Right. But tackling should get better. And the reason why I should get
better because that returner that you're tryingto bring down, we're talking about space,
and when we look at football officivecoordinators are trying to create space make
it really difficult. So I'm thinkingwith guys now learning or being forced to
learn how to tackle in close quarters. Now you have to butt shed ex

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bitch, press the guy off,you throw them away, and then you
have to tackle at the right angle. And when we watch tackle and we
see a lot of guys drop theirhead right, think about you know,
Kareem Jackson and what he had toendure. I'm thinking that this aspect of
the game is going to force morecoaches, not just the special teams coaches

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to get back, but positioned coachesto put an emphasis on tackling. That's
going to be a premier change.I think we're going to see better tackling
because of this rule in the NFL. Oh hope, So I think that.
I think you're right because and theemphasis on tackling on special teams.
You missed one tackle, that guy'sgone gone. You know, it's not
like it's not like on a runplay or something like that. The first

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guy misses there's there's usually a spillover linebacker or there's a saint. You
know, there's somebody back there unlesshe's gotten to the last level that you
know is just gonna make that play. So but I mean with with special
teams, you've got lanes and ifyou miss one tackle in that lane,
usually that returner has got to speedin the quicks to make you pay for
it. And uh, yeah,So I think you're right. There's something

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that's a component I think that hasn'tbeen discussed, hasn't been talked about,
and tackling in the league has hasgotten frankly atrocious over the last decade.
A lot of the shoulder bump,you know, to try the flying shoulder
bump has become vogue. Uh,And there's just not as much but you
face mask in the chest and wrapup. There just isn't that anymore?
Well, and also including the rulewith the hip drop tackle, So with

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that being ruled out, is goingto force guys to actually, as though
we would teach it, you wrapup, you grab cloth, and you
drive for five which means is thoughyou run your feet for five yards,
but most guys on impact they stoppedtheir feet. Now, also this means
as though those kickers who are kickingoff from a distance, those that's that's

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the guy who's going to save you. So you have to make sure that
your kickers. Yes, and howmany times we've seen kickers, we see
some bad ones. Now goes too? What is more bad than good?
I mean, do we need toget Pat McAfee out here to start teaching
people out hit again? Well,well no, but then the forum tackle
on the sideline for a kicker.Rarely does it happen that way because usually

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we see kickers out of positions andthey tried to soccer trip a guy with
their feet right, But Pat McAfeehe was able to. And once again,
Pat McAfee isn't a small dude,he's a thick guy, big yeah,
So all he had to do isthrow his shoulder in you And wasn't
that was that Trindon holiday that hethrew himself into. Was it Trendon Holiday?

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Maybe I have to go back,Okay, I'm thinking it was Trendon
Holiday. But over the changing ofthe rules as far as the kickoff rules
and the hip drop tackle rules,it's going to force special teams, coaches
and coaches on the defensive side ofthe ball to spend more time on that
aspect of the game. And Ican tell you there's a lot of coaches

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that don't. It's one of thekey fundamentals to the game, but a
lot of coaches do not put alot of time and effort into that aspect
of the game. Yeah. Oneof the guys I remember was punter Brad
Wing, who was an awestmee rulesguy who played at LSU and then you
played the league for a minute.I remember him making some tackles that were
that were some that were pretty interestingback in college, interestingly enough, and

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apropos of nothing. He was theguy who had the trick play pass to
the offensive lineman in the UFL game. Yes it was Brad Wing. Is
with san Antonio Bramers, I thinkso. Yeah, I can't remember what
Wade Phillips, Waye Philip that hewas up against my boy Luis Press,
Yes, as waits of mine Luisof course, Uh was it Arlington?

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I guess the retigades. Uh.To me, Luis has played in like
every preseason spring league and been likethe quarterback. Yeah, so he's if
there's ever a Spring League Hall ofFame, he's leading the charge. As
far as I don't think there isone. As far as that goes,
Chauncey billups to the Nate Smith Hallof Fame. That's great. That's great
for Chauncey, his family known asthough Chauncey grew up here in Denver,

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and who wouldn't want to go intothe Hall of fame and in any professional
league, like I mean, youdon't want to go into the wrong hall
of fame, which would be likea hall of fame. But for for
Chohncey you have especially with you saythat you're hearing is starting to do starting.

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It's the way it's fast starting likethey always had those You ever see
those those uh those those commercials orwhatever for hearing loss in the military.
You know what I'm like, canyou turn the volume on that up.
I need to figure out what they'resaying. Yes, yeah, that's yeah.
My hearing is already louder than everyother commercial. I know, my
attention. They're like, all right, seriously, we're we're talking to you.
This commercial is airing for you.Well, okay, quick sidebar.

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Now, I've always thought that,my wife and I always thought that that
those particular commercials, the volume forsome reason was higher than any other commercial.
Yeah it is, yes, okay, yeah, no, there there
are programs, televisions and programs thatwill smooth the volume and adjust the volume
to keep it in even keel likeyou can. There's settings in some TVs

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et cetera, et cetera to doall that. But yeah, there are
they do that on purpose to getyour attention, you know, hey,
pay attention, you know, andjust just short on the screen, right.
I mean, I'm gonna probably changeit anyway, but uh, you
know who watches commerce shows? Nowadays? Even I don't even watch regular TV.
I would watch regular TV and forevereverything I do is streaming. The

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only time I watch anything with commercialsor sporting events. Yeah, only time
really, Yeah, that literally isthe only thing I think I watched the
commercials record the program so I canfast forward through the commercials. You don't
even put up with them on Now, don't tell me what happened in the
game. I'm trying to skip thecommercials. Here's the thing when they did
the when they changed, you know, they get that one angle. Uh

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My streaming actually went the one anglefor the college football games where you can
get the the twenty two you watchthee I watched there commercials they're just there
for the huddled in the break andthey'll throw something up or whatever. There
aren't even commercials on that. There'sno announcing on it either. But this
way I watch football, so really, yeah, I love the announcers.
I mean I don't mind announcing it. You wrong with the best too?
With David Rick obviously, Oh yeah, just I mean he's soy. See

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my best was John Mann and PatSummer. Yeah, that's all class.
Pat some Aroll. Pat some Rollhad that like the minimalist style of doing
it, like he would let theplay speak for he knew exactly how to
let the play speak for hisself andwhen to interject. And then there are
some guys who are so good atlike like Dave Colors his own play,
so you could like he goes intosuch you know what's happening because he tells

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you everything that's going on in theplay. And so I think that there's
I like both, you know.I mean, like like what past summer
Al did for TV I thought wasperfect for you know, for what he
did for TV and what Dave doesfor radio. I love, I love
on radio. That's the thing thatmakes watching you know, sporting events so
great because you get the characters thatcome along with with football. So it

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makes it it makes it great.But the commercials and watching TV now,
like it's kind of crazy because likeobviously growing up now that's all kids know.
And I would tell my kids,do you know that there was a
point where we could not haulse livetelevision and at a certain point at night,
I mean we would call it thesun Pepper screen where there was nothing

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else on the TV. He wasjust like, that's it. Yeah,
and Stacey kind of identification all andand my kids are like, man,
that was back in the olden days. Huh. The Channel three for the
video game? Yeah yeah, yeah, these days, we'll never know bollow
it in the cartridge. Even thoughI didn't do anything run it back from
commercial break to make sure you didn'tmiss anything anything. Yes, yep,

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that's good old fashioned television right there. Yep. And you had to be
in a certain spot to watch thatparticular programming because if you did not,
you missed it unless you had moneylike Ben and you had a VCR y.
Look, I don't want to talkabout the gobs of money we had.
Obviously, we didn't even own aTV until I was thirteen, Like

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we did, I didn't have TV. If I went to Grandma's I watched
TV. That was it. That'swhere you watched that weird Yeah, the
character dummy or whatever you put thehand on the man you said the phrase
was like hocus Pocus, Elementadosh orsomething. I don't remember, And like,
I've never heard of that show.Yes, I got that. That's

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just like them. Basically, waswatching kind of a upscale version of the
Polsy Guys, right just watch andI yeah, might have partaken in some
marrible medication. Watched a little bitof that this weekend. I don't know.
I could admit that out loud onthe radio and everybody right now,
Well, you just did. Andthat's not the static talking either. Man,

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Chauncey and Vince Carter Hall of Fame. Awesome, man, awesome for
those two guys. When you thinkabout the careers that they had, and
when I think about Vince, thefirst thing that jumps out is not his
career as a pro, not hiscareer with North Carolina. It was the
dunk in the Olympics two thousand.Completely jumps that dude, like six seven

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Yeah, I mean, what waslike watching NBA jam Like Vince Carter was
like real life, but those ridiculuwas like, You're like, yes,
what yeh see? I remember himmost for the dunk contest. Yeah,
that was the two thousand. Slamedhis arm in the rim, right and
he gave us it's over. It'sover. Yes, But that dunk in

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the Olympics, man, what if? That's one of the best images from
sport of Absolutely It's funny because nobodyremembers either guy for the team that were
drafted by. Who was Vince Carterdrafted? He was traded right away,
so that almost doesn't count. Butwho was he drafted by? Oh wow,
the Hawks? Was it? CharlotteBobcats? Golden State was Hence,

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Carter was drafted by Golden State whowas Chauncey drafted by. I don't know
that he played for him. SeeI remember him with the Pistons, Yess
Celtics. Wait wait wait did heplay a game for the sounding Oh wow,
I don't even remember that. Ijust remember him, like you said,
Grant with Ben Wallace with the Pistols. Been in Rashid Wallace and Tayshaun

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Prince and Rip Man. He started, He started thirty four games for the
Celtics. Really horrid they dealt him. I believe it was to Toronto and
then he came to the Nuggets.At to that why he was in Minnesota,
then Detroit and then he came backto the you know later. Wow,
I have to say, like whenwhen Chauncey was here. Obviously that's

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when my time was with the Broncos. But it was great to kind of
see a guy who grew up herein the Denver area back home. I
just wish they would have been ableto win the championship. Yeah we come
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