04-09-24 Hour 1 of Broncos Country Tonight

Episode Transcript

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Welcome in too It Broncos Country Tonight. Benjamin Olbright here with you another short

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show post Rockies tonight, gonna haveRyan Edwards in the next segment. The
og get a little bit of quarterbacktalk in five six six nine zeros a
text line it's interesting things come outtoday. I don't want to get to
and we get a chance. Sorryfor the extended rant last night about toxicity

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and covering sports. I just Idon't know. I've had that weigh in
on my mind for a while andfelt like if I didn't get it out,
I wouldn't get it out. Soyou guys got to hear me vent
about it a little bit. Ijust I don't understand why we let this
stuff divide us with fake narratives aboutthe goat and all that kind of stuff.
Mount Rushmore's it's lazy. It's lazy. Radio tired of it. So
I am gonna be on a campaignpointing that kind of stuff out. And

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if you guys catch me doing stufflike that, point it out to me.
I deserve to be called on thecarpet forward if I do it.
Looking ahead to the draft coming upin a couple of weeks, I think
everybody wants the Denver Broncos to takea quarterback. I do believe that they
are going to attempt to go afterJJ McCarthy. I don't know that they

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are going to be able to pullthat off, but I do believe they're
going to attempt it. Probably haveto get basically into the top four to
make that happen, and whether ornot you're able to do that largely hinges
on New England moving out of three. We've talked about this scenario before,

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but I'll run it by you again. Caleb Weaves is going number one of
the Bears, and I believe thatJayden Daniels is going number two to the
Washington Commanders. At that point,you basically have two slots for the Broncos
to try to get into if theylike one of the two remaining quarterbacks Drake
May JJ McCarthy. I don't believethey're on Drake May. And the reason

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you have two slots to do that, and that would be three and four,
is because the Broncos are not goingto be trading to five. Jim
Harbaugh is not going to trade awaythe fifth pick to allow a division rival
to get in there and get hisguy JJ McCarthy. He's not going to
do it, So the Broncos can'ttrade to five, and if one of
those quarterbacks gets to six, theGiants are going to take them. They

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just are based on personal intro Andyou know, I mean, I guess
we're at trust me, bro,but I mean, I'm not gonna reveal
that. But I think listeners ofthis show and people who know me personally
will know what the connection is there. So you basically have one or two
scenarios in which the Broncos could getJJ McCarthy. New England has to trade

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out of three or take the quarterback, take Drake May, and the Vikings
have to not be interested in McCarthy. So let's presume, and I happen
to know the Vikings do have someinterest in both May and McCarthy. The
question is whether they'll pay the priceto move up. So what you have

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is a scenario where Kayleb Williams goesone, Jadan Daniels goes two, and
New England's on the clock. NowI know New England does want to trade
out right now, they're advertising theprice being very high. Whether or not
they ultimately move out, we'll seeI've said this since January or February.
When I did the mock draft,I was a little concerned that they might
stick and pick a three. Butwe'll see, and maybe they do.

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But I know they want to moveout. They want somebody to come up
with the King's Ransom Hall and moveout and set themselves up for the future
with a ton of draft capital.The reason that you need New England to
trade out of three is because Minnesotajust has more draft capital and they're interested

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in both quarterbacks. They're already outof THEOS at eleven. Broncos picked twelve,
and they have more draft capital.I mean, they've got two first
rounders this year. So if youwant JJ McCarthy, you have to hope
that the Minnesota Vikings trade up tothree and take Drake May. If they

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do that, that leaves Arizona asa spot where you could mortgage three drafts
and get up there and get McCarthy. And that's what it's going to take,
basically three first rounders and the thirdmaybe a little bit less than that,
but roughly in that ballpark. Andmy problem with that isn't that I
don't want JJ McCarthy. I likeJJ McCarthy. I think JJ McCarthy has

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a great shot at if he landsin the right place, being very successful
in the NFL. Guy's a winner. He's got the Y factor and I
know those are you know, coachingcolloquialisms that we all hate, but he
does his Kad's won everywhere he's been. So if the Broncos are able to

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work out a deal and mortgage allthis stuff to get up there at four,
that's how you get J. J. McCarthy. And I believe that
they want to take a swing atthat. I believe they want to investigate
that. I don't know that they'llpull the trigger, but I do think
that they want to investigate that.And I think that they are internally probably
hoping that the Giants are smoke screeningthem and the quarterback gets into the you

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know, the seven or eight range, and then they can trade up and
it makes it a lot easier,more palatable, and et cetera, et
cetera. I don't believe that's goingto happen, but I believe that in
the world of wishful thinking, thatis one thing that they've kind of looked
at and explored. So if theydon't get that quarterback if they if they're

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unwilling to move heaven and Earth todo all that, if they're unwilling to
mortgage, and and this is thisis backwards team building. This isn't This
isn't good team building. Itards teambuilding. It's backwards team building. To
get the quarterback, to mortgage everything, to get the quarterback and then try
to build around him well with whatassets. The Houston Texans did this the

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opposite way. They built the Theybuilt the team and then went and found
the quarterback. The Kansas City Chiefssame thing. Now, Kansas City had
a better placeholder in Alex Smith whilethey built that team, but that's what
they did. They built that teamout around Alex Smith and then went and
got Pat Mahomes. The Broncos ifthey trade up. And this is the

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reason I've been so against that.It's not that it's not that I'm against
getting a quarterback. I'm all forthe Broncos getting a quarterback and him being
the guy and covering a winning team. That'd be fantastic from my perspective.

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If it does not make sense tosit there and mortgage everything to go get
a guy and then say, okay, well, what are we going to
do now to build around him.We're already hamstrung this year by a gigantic
cap hit. They're going to behamstrung again next year a little bit by
a cap hit. It's not nextyear, is not prohibitive, but it

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still presents a problem. That's alot of dead cap money. That's not,
again, not staggeringly prohibitive, becausesome of the contracts you can get
out from under, but it issomething to have your eye on. And
then you won't have draft capital inthe early rounds for a couple of years,

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so you have to hope that theselater draft picks, which are largely
dart throws hit. The Broncos haveembarrassing little little draft capital this year.
Yeah, you've got a bunch ofpicks, but they're all late round picks,
and this draft falls apart after aboutthe first one hundred and twenty one
hundred and twenty five. I'm deadserious. I've talked to I've talked to

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people around the league and they saythat this is, you know, a
three round, three and a halfround draft. Once you get out of
the first ten picks in the fourthround, that there's just not much left
in this draft. Maybe the Broncossee that differently, but I've talked to
people around the league who unanimously feelthat this is, like I said,

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one hundred, one hundred and twentypick draft. So if you're going to
get that quarterback, and let's sayit's j J. McCarthy for the sake
of hypotheticals, if you're going tomortgage everything to go up there and do
it, what are you building aroundhim with? Do you really think that

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Javante and samaj p Ryan are longterm answers and running back? Do you
think that any of the tight endson this roster are long term answers at
tight end? And who in thewide receiver corps is special? Who's a
bedrock that you're building around. Isthis offensive line ready to protect for somebody

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like that? Yeah, there aresignificant investments. I think Garret Bowles hasn't
been bad at left tackle, butBen Powers and Mike McGlinchey were disappointments at
left guard and right tackle. There'sa gaping hole at center right now where
you've got two guys who have onestart between them, and you signed Sam

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Mustaffer, who is the worst ratedplayer or worst graded player by Pro Football
focus on their entire roster. QuinnMiners is a right guard is yeah,
that's somebody you know you build anoffensive line around. Okay, But the
rest of the offensive line you havea question market center, a disappointment at
right tackle, an underperformer at leftguard, and a guy at left tackle

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that I mean, how much longerare you rolling with that? Maybe you
want to get younger and cheaper there. Maybe that's where you save some money.
The receiving court does have Courtland suddenated, but he could be dealt before
training camp. Are little Jordan Humphreyand Marvin Mims the guy you're building around.
I think Mims got a little something, but I don't know if he's
somebody a build around. I thinkhe's more like Ted Ginn in the sense

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that he is a special teams playerwho has some deep threat ability. And
all that to say this is thatif you are drafting that quarterback, you've
got to build around and to maximizehim. What does JJ McCarthy need to
be at his maximum self? Strongrun game, strong offensive line. We

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interviewed one of those offensive linemen andDrake Nugent receivers that can play you know,
the play well, you had RomanWilson. Obviously, in order to
maximize JJ McCarthy, you're going toneed several pieces, most of which the
Broncos don't have have. That's whyI've been an advocate of trading. Talk

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to a guy today and we'll talkwith Brian Edwards about this in the next
segment. Talk to a guy todaystill employing the league who asked me what
the difference is between bo Nicks andDerek Carr as prospects. And he made

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a good point. Does bo Nicksproject to be better than Derek Carr?
Carr was more athletic, or atleast testably athletic. Car ran something like
a four to six or for youknow, four six forty. And I

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think Derek Carr has certainly been aserviceable starter in this league. I think
he's a top half of the leaguestarter. Some people don't share that opinion,
But is that is Derek Carr hisbest? Something a that you build

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an entire offense around and be somebodythat you can go toe to toe with
Pat Mahomes and Justin Herbert with fourtimes a year. I don't know,
I don't know, you know,but Michael Pennox is somebody that fans and

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media love, but around the leaguethe opinion of him is significantly lower.
You talk to evaluators, you talkto guys, and you know, it's
not just the injuries. You're talkingabout a guy who had a massive supporting
cast around him. Three wide receiversthat are absolutely going to be drafted into
the NFL and playing on Sundays,an offensive line that's mostly going to be

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in the NFL, including a guywho's probably what you would call a lottery
pick at tackle. Penix is aguy who if you look, if you
put the tape on, they didn'tget pressure to him because the talent advantage
that did Washington hand in a lotof cases very often. But when they

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did, he wilted when it gotnoisy around his feet. He didn't know
what to do when it came toyou know, when it came to making
decisions under pressure, it wasn't Thetape isn't very good and quarterbacks under pressure,
that really is the difference maker inwho's going to be successful and who's

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not. Who's going to be goodgreat and who's not when there's noise around
you. And that's not to sayhe wasn't effective at avoiding sacks or those
kinds of things. Penicks tested asa superior athlete, but he's really not
one, not in a football sense. Like he has testable athleticism, but
it doesn't translate, see it.I think he's got a strong arm,

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and there's some tools there. There'san injury history, and certainly that does
have to be something that you haveto for you, you know, for
yourself, you have to clear somethingyou have to be satisfied with. But
a twenty four year old rookie withwith four season ending injuries, multiple ACL
tears, and then you start lookingat the tape, You're go, wait

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a minute, this guy doesn't throwover the middle field. When you take
the completion percentage and stuff out ofit and just look at how accurate the
throws were, it's not great.You had a lot of receivers adjusting to
balls and not quarterback, you know, putting in the right spot necessarily,

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and there were someone this iszle reelsnice. The highlight throws are nice,
But when you start looking at thestuff on a in a vacuum, all
things being equal, sense, I'mnot as enamored of him as some of
the fans in media maybe I'm wrong, Maybe he turns into a star.

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We'll see coming up here. We'regonna talk with Ryan Edwards, the OG
here at Broncos Country tonight, seewhat he's up to, what he would
do in this situation. You listeningto Kawai and I want to know what
you think? Five six six ninezeros a text line. I want to

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know what you guys think, whatthey should do. I'm a big proponent
of trade back from twelve. I'ma big proponent of multiplying draft capital.
I'm a big proponent of adding tothe edge rush and getting another outside corner.
And if the Broncos don't believe thatthere is absolutely definitely a guy that

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they can get, yeah, youcan take a flyer on a guy later,
but don't overdraft the quarterback just becausethey're a quarterback. I would rather
roll with Jared Stidham, who Idefinitely don't believe is a long term starter
in this league, and continue tobuild this thing out and then find a
quarterback that you believe it when youhave the assets. Right now, the

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Broncos are playing from behind. Theydealt away the assets and I just don't
I don't believe that they're going tobe able to pull this off. We'll
see what Ryan has to say.He's a Broncos Country tonight, kaway A
ninety four to ONEFM. Welcome backto it, Broncos Country Tonight. I've
been to an Albright joined here bythe og, the Godfather, as it

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were. We have his portrait hangingup here in the studio. Ryan Edwards,
how's it going, man, goodman? How are you? I'm
I am doing well. We're gettingcloser, closer and closer, yes Draft
season, and it feels like smokescreens are flying everywhere at this point.
I have no idea what you're talkingabout, none at all. It's it
is interesting to me. A lotof the stuff that comes out if you've

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looked back over the last ten yearsor so, and a lot of the
information that comes out, like rightafter the Combine and the Senior Bowl and
all that kind of stuff is reallyaccurate, and then it gets less accurate
as it goes along if you goback and look at some of these narratives.
Just last year, people were talkingabout the last couple of years that
will Levis was gonna go number fouroverall. Malik Willis could go number two.

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I remember that one. Although MalikWillis after the combine had some buzz
on him because remember he had thatwhere he helped the guy and the right.
Yeah, the video which is obviouslypr stage because who has a camera
pointed directly out of a restaurant acrossthe street in four k quality? Just
happened to see that. But youknow, I think that you're telling me
that bo Nix and Michael Pennicks arenot going in the top ten. Yeah,

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they're not going to Just kidding.I don't even think they're going on
the first I still don't believe.I legitimately do not believe they're going in
the first round. I had aconversation, really good conversation with somebody today
and I had been leaning maybe maybethere was some team out there I wasn't
aware of. That was that wason Michael Pennix and he was going to
slip in the first round. AndI am off of that. Now,
Okay, So now does that meanit won't happen? Does that mean that

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Michael Penett it only takes one untilwe saw it here Tim Tebow. Nobody
was taking that guy the first round. Nobody was taking in the second round.
I think when they did their littlepole thing afterwards around the league,
somebody found that the Bills had thesecond highest grade autumn and it was like
a third rounder that year. Itonly takes one. Yeah, but it
only takes one. So it ispossible that either one of those two guys

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could go in the first round.Coming away from this, this conversation and
in this person is currently employed inthe league, I do believe the Broncos
are going to try to make aplay for JJ McCarthy. We just neither
one of us believed they were goingto be successful. Make you feel does
that? Do you want that?Is it okay for the Broncos to try
and fail to get J. J. McCarthy, because you know how the

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pr so well, we didn't wantthem to begin with if we didn't get
him. Listen a minute. Ilove JJ McCarthy, and if the Broncos
coming out of the draft with JJMcCarthy, I'm gonna be freaking out because
because I think he's I think he'sthat kind of special of a quarterback.
And again, I think the longerI think your point is a really good
one. The longer we go throughthis, you send you sort of question

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or reevaluate that opinion, and comingright out of the combine, that was
the quarterback that I wanted the Broncosto target. Now, I'm a bigger
Drake May fan, and if DrakeMay was a target, then that would
probably be even bigger, a biggerdeal to me. But but listen,
it's not much of a consolation prizefor me because I think they're both top
five picks. I think they bothdeserve to be in that conversation, I

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think JJ McCarthy his relative floor giveshim an ability to start faster. I
genuinely believe that. Now again,we get through this process, we're in
the pre draft process. We're rightwalking right up to the draft, and
people will come out and say,I think he's gonna be a bust.
I think he's going to be terrible. This is you know, people are
gonna get fired if they draft JJMcCarthy or Drake May. Right, you
see Merril Hodge. So stuff likethat comes out, and I think we

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get too far down the rabbit holeand hyperbole. In the end, I
think your point at the beginning isthe most important one to say, maybe
trust your early instincts on a player. Right the very first instincts you had
on a guy back in January.Doesn't have to be from before a college
football season started, but back inJanuary, when the pre draft process was
going, when the Senior Bowl,all the things were happening, What did

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you think about a guy? Andat that time I liked JJ McCarthy a
lot. My love for him onlygrew, and then all of a sudden
I started talking myself out of himin Parks. I didn't think it was
going to be possible. But ifthe Broncos are legitimately still very interested in
him, I'm still interested in himbeing here in Denver. I love JJ
McCarthy. I'm just I worry thatmortgaging everything to draft a guy and not
be able to build around him isgoing to be a problem, you know,

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right, And so that that's myconcern there, But that it brings
me to I want to go backto a couple of different things you said
there. First of all, trustingyour first instinct and do what you mean
by that. I think what youactually mean by that is after you've done
your evaluation. Because most people's firstexposure to a guy like Michael Pennix was
watching him play against Texas, wherehe tore it up against an atrocious Longhorns
defense that everybody thought Texas is agood defense and it wasn't, and they

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tore He tore it up against them, and that was there. And then
they got a dose of reality whenhe played Michigan and they're like, oh,
yeah, this guy's not you knowexactly what everybody thought with McCarthy.
I mean again, yeah, Ilove JJ McCarthy. I just worried about
him coming here where they're not goingto I mean, whoever, if they
trade up for somebody, they're notgonna be able to build around them.
So you have to you have tohope that whoever you're getting is ready to
go and able to elevate right outthe box. And I'm not sure if

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that's JJ McCarthy. And so that'sthat's where I start to worry a little
bit, because you're going to haveto trade. It's gonna cost you three
once, it's gonna you gonna flipone, two more, it's gonna cost
you three ones in an additional pick. And at that point, I'm like,
we already don't have the you know, we we haven't picked in the
top what two rounds since Pats aretan. Yeah, yeah, I mean

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we trained up. I guess wehad Nick baniel was before that. Yeah.
No, Nick bandil was was thesecond rounder and you didn't have a
first rounder of that year. Yeah, and so so you had Nick.
Yeah that was okay. So NickBandita was the last one first the last
first round was what Patzer tan.So it's I mean, you know,
and you wonder why this team isto what a talent? That's the reason
you mortgaged all this for a headcoach. You mortgage all this for a
quarterback, and now you know you'retrying to dig your way out of it

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by mortgaging more. I'm not surethat seems like the gambler's fallacy to me.
If I just keep doubling down,eventually I'm going to hit right.
And I'm not sure that that worksin football. I want to go back
to something you said, though,because you like Drake Man, I'm not
the biggest Drake May fan. Ido want to it was kind of respond
to any of that real quick,and then and then you ask me the
Drake may stuff. Yeah okay,Well, well, first of all,
I don't think there is devoid oftalent as some do, but that's for
another shore. I think JJ McCarthyand Sean Payton speak the same language.

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I think that that if you haveyour concerns about what he's going to be
able to do here, I thinkthat's what they're trying to figure out through
this process. And and and inthe end, what he did at Michigan
is going to help him significantly understandingwhat Payton's looking for. And I agree
with that. I'm just saying that, at the end of the day,
if you had, you know,receivers and offensive line of running back,
that couldn't get it done. WithRussell Wilson. I'm not one hundred percent

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sure that they're gonna you know,and if you are sure, good for
you, then then go get him. But it's like my skepticism from the
outside looking in is such fair enough. And again, if I could tell
you for sure any one of theseguys, I probably wouldn't even be working
here. Right if I knew forsure, well this is the guy that
the magic formula, we'd be retiredon an island and believe and just right
exactly well, what I'm saying isis the decisiveness is important, right,

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and Russ lacked that and many timeshe lacked decisiveness. He lacked the ability
to effectively run what Sean Payton waslooking for right, And we know that
that's the reason why he's not hereanymore, because he certainly is is a
capable quarterback. He's a talented quarterbacksto winning quarterback, and he's done that
for a very lengthy amount of time. So it's not like he's a flash

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of the pan kind of guy.But the reality of it is is it's
about the trust. It's about thecommunication and the decisiveness and the beebled the
ability for the head coach and thequarterback to see those same things. And
so in the end, I feellike Sean Payton's going to get that vibe
from JJ McCarthy when he sits,when he'sat down with them during the pre
draft process, He's going to realize, you know what, a lot of

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people think that there's going to be, you know, a learning curve with
his rookie, or maybe he doesn'thave a lot of experience throwing the ton
of the ball because they ran somuch in Michigan. In the end,
this guy sees things to say thesame way I see things, and I
think that's going to be the decidingfactor. I think it's like speaking a
different language, right, It's athing. I think there's two quarterbacks in
this draft that naturally speak Sean Payton, and that's J. J. McCarthy

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and Poe Nicks. Going back tothe question that I had about Drake May,
because I don't think he's on theBroncos radar first of all, and
I don't I am of the opinionthat he could wind up being the fourth
quarterback drafted. We'll see. Imean it's three or four I believe for
him. I don't believe. Ithink it's going to be Kalla Williams and
Jade Daniels one two. So Ithink the question comes who comes up to

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three or four and then you knowwhether or not May slips to sick because
I think that the Giants would befine either way if one of those quarterbacks
fell there would would it surprise youif Drake May was the fourth quarterback taken
based on everything and all the speculationand reports that we've had, No,
No, it wouldn't surprise. Itsurprises me based on what I think he

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is and what I think he shouldbe because I had him as as neck
and neck in my opinion, justmaybe slightly behind Caleb Williams coming into this
process, like I thought him rocksolid. Number two quarterback Jadan Daniels.
You know, I know, Al'sa big Jadan Daniels guy. The more
I've watched him, the more Iget concerned about his frame and his ability.
Now again, we said some similarthings about Kyler. I think Kyler's

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a little more stout. But theconcern about Jayden Daniels is, man,
if this guy gets hit, youknow, repetitively, which, by the
way, he does take off early, is a very thin yes. So
it's not Lamar Jackson that way,Like every keep saying, Mr Jackson,
I think Lar jack a lot ofhits. That's right, same with Kyler,
Kyler Murray. You know Kyler,Kyler's built squatty first of all,

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but he doesn't take a lot ofhits. But but Jade Daniels concerns me
a little bit more from that perspective. That doesn't mean he's not talented,
doesn't mean he doesn't deserve to gosecond. Overall, I just thought Drake
may should have been in that conversationat the very top of this draft.
From the very beginning, and thefact that we're here about two weeks out
and there are real conversations about maybehim being the fourth quarterback. It surprises

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me a bit. But once again, as you you know, and I
credit you because we did this alot on Broncos Country tonight, you constantly
kind of re evalue or had mereevaluate my stance on things and saying,
listen, it's not so much abouthow you feel about him, it's how
the rest of the NFL feels abouthim and some of these specific teams that

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are are in reach to get theseguys. It just because you love him
doesn't mean the rest of the NFLfeels the same way. And that's the
best case study of that. Wherethe fans were right is probably Lamar Jackson
right, because the league got letthat go and let that go and uh
and then you know, obviously Baltimoremoved up took him in the in the
latter part of the first round.There, well, most of the league
just just let it go. AndI think if you had to do over,

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I think some of those would obviously, Oh yeah, Josh Allen Jackson
gone a little different. Baker wasstill a top five quarterback, but you
know, it's Sam Darnold's and theJosh Rosens of the world are, you
know. But yeah, that,I mean that is part of the thing.
You want to be careful enough toget paralysis by over analysis, but
you want to constantly challenge your perceptionor your belief so you don't get stuck

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in dogmatically. I think this waybecause this is the first thing I heard,
and I'm going to only pick andchoose things to go with that.
And I see that a lot onsocial media, guys can choose what they
what they're willing to share, youknow, just to just to support whatever
it is that they first decided theybelieved. And and I'm not saying I
haven't been guilty of that, butI notice it a lot more. And

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so that's one of those things thatI'm trying to I'm trying to be better
about, is continually challenging my perceptions. But a lot of what I do
these days is less, you know, I don't I don't put my evaluations
out there as much anymore. Mostof what I do now is taking evaluations
from around the league and trying topass you know, some of that information
along. And I think that's thepoint. It's like, look, you
may feel a certain way about MichaelPenick. Here's Michael Penix is a very

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devout fan club, a very devoutfan club. But people around the league
that I talk to you don't feelthe same way. Are they right or
they wrong? We won't We won'tknow for a little. I mean they'll
play it stuff out. We eventuallywill. We don't know right now.
But you're not convincing like telling methat, oh he's he's a top quarterback,
Like I'm gonna who are you convincinghere? Like I'm not. I
don't care, like I'm passing alonginformation to you. But that's the tough

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thing is is, most of thetime, most analysts, right or radio
or TV, whatever, most analystsare giving their specific opinion. Maybe it's
an informed opinion, but it's theirspecific opinion oftentimes, though, I don't
think people realize and I only knowthis because I've been around you for so
many years, that you're giving theopinion of the league. You're saying this
is what I'm hearing, right,But you'd almost literally have to start out

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every single tweet that way. AndI don't think people know that you're sometimes
giving your opinion and sometimes you're givinga league view on something, and I
think sometimes you do, to thecredit of the people that come after you,
you do blur the lines a littlebit. Sometimes you are giving your
opinion that's not necessarily the league's opinion. But again, it's so difficult because
all of it can change on adime. And we, like we found

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out were Sean Payton in Denver.He wasn't target ABC, but it changed
because Target AB and C didn't workout. And so, you know,
you go into that process you're thinking, well, gosh, you're gonna get
one of your top three, justlike the Broncos come into the draft,
Oh gosh, you know they havethree guys that they're targeting. Well,
guess what if all three of thoseguys are gone? What are you gonna
do with Plan D? Like,what does planned D look like? This

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isn't like Madden where you just draftthe next quarterback draft. You have to
believe that that guy is going tobe it. And it's I think at
the end of the day, andthis is really the question that I want
to get to. Here is itof these quarterbacks? And let's let's call
it to Big seven because I'm gonnagohea and put Rattler in there. Because
there's Day one and Day two guys, and the Day one guys, the
big four. We've talked about theDay two guys, maybe they sneak in
the Day one we don't know.Bone Michael Pennocks and then Spencer Raller.
That's that's the main seven quarterbacks inthis draft. And I know people talking

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about Michael Pratt. I brought himup on the show. He's the Day
three guy. Jordan Travis. Samething. At the end of the day,
if you go get one of theseguys, you have to believe that
they can go toe to toe withPatrick Mahomes and Justin Herbert. They have
to be able to win you footballgames. So you have to be able
to win with it, wining thisdivision with those guys. I disagree only
because that that conversations for your firstrounders, if it's a Day two player

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or beyond. I get that.I don't think that that you're sending the
same message. We're saying the samething. We're saying it differently, though,
And that's that's the point that I'mtrying to make, is is that
if you don't believe that somebody isthat guy, then he is a day
two or Day three guy naturally.However, you know, and that may
seem counter into it. I understand. Like for instance, and let's use
Drake me as an example. Iknow you believe it in Broncos. Maybe
not. Let's let's use that asan example. If the Broncos don't believe,
then he is the day two guyto them, right, I mean

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technically yes. So that's the wayyou have to look at You don't have
a first round great on him though, you don't, right, I mean
yes, but you don't. Youdon't take you don't take a bon Knicks
at twelve if you don't believe thathe can do that, if you believe
that you can win some games withthe guy, whatever else. Here's the
best question that got posed to metoday. What's the difference between bo Nicks
and Derek Carr as a prospect,Because this person said Derek Carr was better.

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Oh, and Derek Carr went inthe second round right at the beginning
of the second round, Yeah,he said, he said, Look,
if Derek Carr were in this class, Derek Carr would go before bon Nicks
and Michael PENNOCKX, Yeah, Iprobably. I mean based on what and
I'm trying to remember back completely howI thought about Derek Carr coming out again.
He ran like a four six,four forty all that kind of stuff.
But he's but he came out ofthat high school offense at Fresno and
then all had to learn, youknow, right, had to learn a

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bunch. And Derek Carr has alwaysbeen a guy who went in a year
one of an offense. He kindof sucks and then he gets better as
he goes along. And it's notthat he's a world beater, but Derek
car is a starter in this league. It pants down, He's a capable
starter in this league. And sothat's the thing. It's just like,
if you would have prospect Derek Carrrated ahead of Bonnicks or Michael Pennix,
that means you believe they might becomeserviceable starters in this league, which is

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what Derek Carr became. But you'renot that you're not betting on it.
And the reason that you're not bettingon it, and this is the other
part about this, the fifth yearoption doesn't matter. I know, I'm
going off on all over the place. Here, but the fifth year option
doesn't matter for quarterbacks. It's theone position where you want to get to
the contract as quick as possible.The other positions you want to string it
out. Quarterback you want to getthere and get it, get it behind
you because that first year you're gotto pay for a bunch, and you

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want to get the below market rateon that deal as quickly as possible.
It's not like right like you wouldtrade into the first for a running back
because you want the fifth year option. You don't want to sign him long
term. I got a fifth year, and to think I can get six
years out of this guy, Inever have to pay him move on.
So that's the math by day.That said, if going back to the
Derek Carr thing, if you thinkthat bow Nix or Michael Pennox, and
I mean that's honestly the stratusphere,I would put those guys in his prospects.

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So then if that's the case,we don't want to do that at
twelve, No, you do notsell them. What do we do at
twelve? Well, I mean that'swhere from a conversational standpoint, and again
this is you know fun, weget to do this for the next two
weeks. Is you think about itin terms of, well, I'm ready,
I want to do No. Imean, listen, if I say

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I have to get one of thosequarterbacks, like like I'm not going to
get the top four, you don't, you don't get up, you don't
get McCarthy's's not gonna happen.Okay, then then I have to have
a second rounder, Like I've gotto find a way a second rounder because
like, I don't want to fallout of that tier. See that's the
thing that we've been talking about alot on on Ky Sports, is I
don't want to fall out of thattier of the top seven. And then
say, boy, I'm putting mylot in with the you know, even

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fence to Michael Pratt. But MichaelPratt and Joe Milton. So you're a
cluding Rattler in this though I ama c Ratler. But he's at the
end of it, Okay, he'sthe best. He's the third round right
right, idio is, So ifyou think you can get him on as
a seventy eight that's where the Broncosare drafting seventy six seventy eight, can
you can probably get Spencer Ratler atseventy eight. Okay, you might be
able to get Based on the conversationI had today, this guy seems to

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think you can get Michael Pennox there, But okay, I don't think that's
gonna I don't think that's gonna bethe case either, But you know what
I'm saying, Like like, atthis point, my mindset is I don't
want to fall out of that tier. I don't want to fallow at top
seven. So whatever I have todo trying to get second or not,
I am not taking those quarterbacks thatI view as day two picks at twelve.

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I can't do it. So youare one hundred percent committed to drafting
a quarterback, though not just signinga Tannehill of rolling with Stidem. Absolutely
draft a quarterback. It'll be adevastation if they don't draft one. Devastation.
Okay, I said what I saidthe og Ryan Edwards, appreciate you
taking some time off from the bigtime radio to join us US lesser peons.
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