04-10-24 Hour 1 of Broncos Country Tonight

Episode Transcript

(00:00):
Welcome to it, Broncos Country tonight, but with all brid Dick Ferguson,

(00:03):
Grant Smith, I mess Nick,Hey, I didn't recognize him. We'll
walk going on, man, you'reready. I had to reintroduce myself.
Yes, you see this face,not the glasses and yeah right, I
just though I don't even know whatI'm looking at anymore. Oh, he
brought them there it is, hedid, look at it. He's got
them. I feel left out whenyou guys wear the glasses though, I'm
gonna have to get some like someblue light. Yeah. See, I

(00:23):
feel like I'm not as smart.Now does you guys have like like smart
people glasses on? Now? Isit about glasses itself? Visually that makes
individuals look very astute? You literallylook like the villain from Oppenheimer right now
with those glasses. Villain from Oppenheimer, like Robert Donney Junior's character that is

(00:45):
alert. Do you agree with that? Grant? I haven't seen the movie.
So what do I look like avillain? No? Exactly, kind
of like Condy Junior doesn't look likea villain per se, but look like
a smarter Von Miller. Okay,all right, okay, okay, you
know because von Miller instantly looks smarterwhen he has glasses on. Fair enough,
fair enough. Have you guys everdid that going out on a date

(01:08):
or when you met a person forthe first time, just put on glasses
just to give the impression that youwere smarter than you actually were. Well,
I've always had Now, I've neverhad an option to not wear glasses
unless I put my contacts in andit always freaks Ben out. Yeah,
yeah, I thought you recognize hisface? Man? Like, dude,

(01:29):
I swear to God if he ifhe shaved the mustache and didn't wear glasses,
I wouldn't know who he was,right, I do not know who
he was. I do have avery generic white Denver guy face, Like
I have. My friends text meall the time They're like, are you
downtown right now? Because I swearto God, I just average white guy.
That a big show Tonight, wegot Ryan Michael uh Pro Football Hall

(01:55):
of Fame. Man. Let's goto join us for Inside the Numbers.
Of course, the NFL six packpick game to night nugget Te Wolves number
one seed on the line. Istruggled with this one because I got to
think it. I hate it whenplayoff teams just don't even bother for the
last week of the season because itfeels like it never works out, you

(02:19):
know what I'm talking about, Likewhen Andy Reid rest guy, it feels
like it just never works out.Look at like, for instance, Cleveland,
they had all this momentum going inthe playoffs, they sat everybody like
to rest them, and then theycome back in the in the playoffs.
Well, see that goes without sayingbecause depending on what type of team you
have, something like that will notreally hurt your team. And in my

(02:43):
time with the Denver Broncos, andit takes me back where Mike Shanahan wasn't
one of those types of guys wherehe was going to sit everyone, you
know, like certain players he feltas though they needed to keep that momentum
going, so he would and heand some of those guys that most fans
filled as though, so why ishe starting Rod Smith? Well, get
it, get him a couple ofplays, give him a couple of touches,

(03:05):
right, You work on a coupleof plays in practice, you see
if it works in the game,and then maybe start to dwindle his level
of plays as the game went on. But the whole idea of sitting a
guy entirely, it comes down tothe coach and what type of player and
team that you have. And Ican understand not want to risk injury before
the playoffs to sort of get that, but I would still prep the week

(03:25):
like if it's a throwaway game forus anyway, I'm still prepping the week
at full speed. I'm keeping theguys in a rhythm to try to keep
the momentum going, and I'm probablyputting them out there like the preseason for
like two series something like that,you know, just to just to kind
of get the blood flowing a littlebit, keep you in a rhythm.
So so it's not like coming offa bye week or whatever, you know,

(03:45):
completely but see football in basketball,I think it's a little different in
those particular situations. It is becauseI was like, for football, I'm
like I hate it, but forbasketball, I kind of like it,
you know, because it's a it'sa road grader of a season and you
had any two games and you needa whole other season in the playoffs.
Well, see, it's different iflet's just say you already know you have
your seating and your seating is notgoing to change with a win or loss,

(04:11):
then okay, ideally you do that, and that same rules applies with
with football. But as we lookat the Nuggets and where they are with
three games remaining on the season,the game tonight, which I feel is
really important, more important than theKola Yoki stayed And we'll get to that
later. But for me, theseare those types of games that you want

(04:31):
you want to win. And rightnow, where the Nuggets sit, you
could either be the number one seedor you could be the number three seed,
and there's a difference between those seatings. And if you're the number one
seed, you get an easier roadto a championship. You get home court
advantage right throughout right and huge,which is huge. And then also all

(04:55):
the other teams know the paths toa championship has to come to Denver,
and now you have the altitude isyour friend. But if there's a guy
that's even remotely banged up, isit more valuable to get that number one
seed and risk him getting a littlemore injured? Oh listen, listen.
Hundred meaning healthy is seventy five percenthealthy? Well, I mean it depends

(05:17):
on the relative hell that he reallydoes. But at the end of the
day, I think it's more importantto get that number one seed because you
got to take one on your opponent'scourt at some point. If you don't.
Yeah, But I mean like someonelike Jamal Murray, say he twists
his ankle a little bit tonight andyou see him limping around in the next
game, are you playing him?Are you sending him to make sure he's

(05:38):
healthy for the first round of theplayoffs, regardless if it costs you that
number one seed or not. Ifhe's limping, then I gotta brush.
Yeah. If you can obviously seehim laboring that that visual is not going
to buy well. You have totake him out. And this is where
you hope that the games that hehasn't played all he's along, it allows
some of those other guys who havebeen in there playing for him to now

(06:01):
step it up. This is whereyou know, usually when you have an
injury during the season, it hurtsteams, But this is the case where
it would help a team because somany guys who typically wouldn't be on the
court, like like like Reggie forinstance, Reggie Jackson. Reggie had a
lot of time and he worked onhis timing with Nicola Jokic and some of

(06:23):
the other players. So it maynot affect the Nuggets as though it may
affect another team. But if youcan play, and maybe this is just
the football player in me, becausewe had to play both injured and hurt,
and there's a difference between the two. So for me, and I
speak for myself, I played bothinjured and hurt. I played in games

(06:45):
that I shouldn't have played in becauseI'm dealing with issues for playing in those
games right now. That's one ofthe reasons. But at the same time,
and football, we are forced orwe expected who pushed through that particular
injury. But I'm not saying likeif it's Nicola Jokis or Jamal Murray,

(07:05):
you you risk long term injury tryingto capture that number one seed. But
to Ben's point, that number oneseed is so bioding is so important.
Yeah, I mean, you know, and I feel like it to the
football mentality, so it's a littlebit different. So the basketball mentality is
more like the radio mentality. Youknow that I need some load management.
I've got speaker's elbow speak. Youknow, I've got a microphone adjuster's elbow.

(07:27):
I might have to just say afew days, you know, let
that heal. But I know,I mean, I go back and forth
on this, And this is whyI brought the football thing up in the
in the first place, because Ihate it when football teams do it to
you, because it feels like itit interrupts momentum more times than not.
It feels like it's it interrupts something, you know, no more glaring example
in the Cleveland Browns. Cleveland Brownswere red hot in December last year,

(07:49):
right, yeah, they were redhot heading in the play they couldn't lose
it, brought it didn't matter.They've got Joe Flacko out of fort living
room, put him on the fieldand they were there. You know,
he's tearing it up. And thenwhat happened They shacht. Everybody think they're
gonna get arrest and going into thisand it interrupted the momentum that they had
and they just kind of let allthat stuff spiral outward and you saw they
came through it. Put put adout up on the field. But this
is what you do if you werea coach, if you know that there's

(08:11):
certain guys who are not going toplay in that last game. Of those
last two games because you already capturedthe top seed. What you do is
that you run them through a gauntletin practice. I don't mean that you
run him through a gaarlet to breakhim down like his training camp. But
now your starters are some of thoseplayers who were starters that are sitting out

(08:33):
now they're running scout team. They'repreparing the scout team for what they're going
to see during the game. Sowhen you run two minute, we're running
two minute full speed because it keepsyour starters in somewhat of a rhythm,
but it also prepares those backups forwhat they're going to face because they don't
know what that is. They didn'tface that all season long, right right,
I just I know. And thenbasketball being in such a long haul,

(08:54):
I mean, you want you wantto preserve the body to be able
to make it through what is essentiallya second seat. In football, it's
one and done, you know,So I mean, like you gotta have
guys healthy. And I sort ofunderstand the delimit there. In basketball,
you get seven gate you know it'sthe best of seven. Yeah, I
think you rest the guy, butthis is tough. I mean, Minnesota,
you know, you get first firstseating on the line tonight for the

(09:16):
Nuggets. What do you do?Do you rest Jamal Murray? No,
of the game he had the othernight. What about no Minnesota with Carl
Anthony Towns, he's pretty much clearedto play. This is a huge game
for seeding tonight. Okay, butif he doesn't, what if he says,
hey, I'm not I get thatbefore from Minnesota. They're two and
one against the Dinner Nuggets. Theybeating the Nuggets here at home, and

(09:39):
they've done that without Karl Anthony Towns. So if Karl Anthony Towns doesn't play
tonight, I don't think it hurts, you know, a big cat in
Minnesota. No, if he does, it only accentuates it because right now,
Anthony Edwards is the guy you gotto stop. Yeah, that's the
guy you have to stop. AD fifty one last year. Goodness,

(10:00):
it's so good, absurd. That'sthe guy who often gives the Nuggets issues.
And the defensive specialist is Aaron Gordon. Right, he's not just gonna
stop, you know, man byhimself. No, he was a little
love to the weather too. Idon't know is he playing a night I
believe he is playing. Okay,that's another guy you don't want to get

(10:20):
in foul trouble when he's on AnthonyEdwards all night, because Anthony Edwards is
gonna draw fouls. He's just tooathletic not to exactly, And and l
else are you gonna put on anidea? Is oh put ca CP on
him? Okay Anthony Edwards? Well, well, if Aaron Gordon gets an
early is begging the Nuggets to dothat, you're going to have to do
something. And once again, howdo you stop it? And caseyp is

(10:41):
a great defender, but he's justtoo small. I just know, I
mean like you almost have to putPorter on there and just give up the
you know, and hope that heputs some effort in. I think that's
our biggest matchup wor Yes, Andif it's me, I'm putting a guy
like Christian Brown on on On Edwardsas well, just number of guys for

(11:01):
a couple of minutes, all ofthem. Yes, Yeah, he's gonna
have you. He's gonna bruises allover his arms by the time he's done.
If I am coach Malone, Iwould think that way and say,
look, I need you guys collectivelyto be Dennis Rodman, show them Dennis
Robin film bad does I want tobe? Yeah, you just get out
there and just hack him up.Well, it's like trying to guard Shack
Back in the day. You know, teams would get a second and third

(11:24):
center on the roster just to foulhim the day contracts center. It used
to be the strategy the teams apployedagainst Nikola Yokis until he started getting foul
calls. You know, they justthrow big bodies at him and hit him
on the arms a bunch, tryto get the arm bruised up and tired.
You know what this one guy man, And it's funny that you bring
that up by Nikola Joki. It'sjust like every game I look at his

(11:48):
arms and it's just like, man, he was in a fight with the
wolverine or something. Those scratches atthis low whelp across his arms. It
was just like, how was itthat officials don't see that? But I
understand because I'm gonna go back towhat you say Grant about Shaq. Shaq
was so big. Other centers whowere using all their files were able to

(12:11):
just smack him up because It's like, look, that's an unfair advantage,
and I think he is. Whatworks to Jokic's disadvantage is that he's so
good at finishing plays, regardless ifhe's fouled or not. Yeah, you
know, it's kind of like LebronJames when he first came to the league.
He's gonna finish plays that most peoplewon't, so he won't get those
calls when he misses a shot.You know what, I think, Calvin

(12:33):
Booth what they need to do forNicola jokicchen offseason. They need to either
send him to Los Angeles or bringin an acting coach, right or hire
one of those soccer players. Becausethose guys fall on the ground grabbing their
ankle and then they over one eyesee if someone's looking, and then they
get up. You know, they'regonna have to send that acting coach over

(12:54):
to Serbia because Nikola Jokic wants thepostseason's up already. There. You know,
there's Steven Sagall over there too.Steven Sagall really acting. I feel
like he's just himself and there's camerasthat follow him around and they're like,
just do your thing. We're justgonna video he wouldn't know how to get
a call. Because if you haven'tseen Stevens a Gall actually movie man the

(13:16):
way, you just gotta just justI sick with people with the clothes line.
Yes he is a black belt,I think, Yeah he was.
He was a cop for a whileor two. Wouldn't he really? Just
when Steve sagull like a cop?What do you like a sheriff's deputy or
something? Yeah he was. Causeyou imagine being pulled over by Stevens a
Gall and then all of a suddenhe asked you to get out of the
vehicle, and you don't because you'retrying to take a selfie, and then

(13:39):
he actually pulls you out of thevehicle and throws you up against the car
right. You don't even press charges. You know why I just got roughed
up by Stevens a Gall. Yeah, make sure you get it on video.
Chick out that old video that yougot it on video? Going with
you over? You know he wantsto taps on the windows. You know
why I pulled you over? I'ma non non sigling, and I don't

(14:00):
know there is somebody that's unsigull,like two Colorado Rockies man starting the season
three and ten. The old teamworst in Major League Baseball right now is
the Barlins, who have one winto eleven losses. Both teams, by
the way, have a negative thirtythree run differential negative thirty three worst start
through thirteen games and franchise history.You know how, I feel feel really

(14:22):
sorry for and if he were inthe studio right now, I will give
him a big hug. Justin Lawrence, because every time he comes in something
doesn't go right right, something doesn'tgo right, and he's historically a really
good pitcher out of the bullpen.Not so far this season. No,
Yeah, it's just not been uhin the airsh Mike, Why can't we

(14:43):
put it? I get we don'thit as well on the road, but
our pitching are starting. Pitching hasbeen decent the first the last four games.
Pitching isn't. The issue is theguy that's coming in trying to close
it and we are hitting the ball. It's the league game stuff, and
we're looking at guys. I mean, like like Lawrence has headed by.
Tyler Kinley is not pitched well.Freedland had that horrendous start to the season.

(15:05):
I think he's whittled the era backdown at about sixteen. You know,
Anthony Molina came in for a coupleof games, was brutally bad.
I think you give up eleven runsand three innings something like that. I
mean, it's just, you know, for the Rockies, it always comes
down to pitching, and it alwayscomes down to you know, middle to
late relief being able to hold ontothings. Because some of these starters have
come out there put quality innings inthe last time we were talking to Jack

(15:28):
Corrigan about this, you brought upsomething as far as the Rockies going out
trying to find pitchers who can forceground balls, right, and very true.
I would like to see the Rockiesdo that, but finding guys who
can close, because there have beengames where the Rockies have been in command

(15:48):
of the game and then it's justlike when they get to the seven eighth
inning, you're sitting on your hands, like, oh, here we go
again. Yeah. I mean you, Dakota Hudson and Ryan Felder have had
quality, quality pitching this year.I mean they've come on, they pitched
well, even Gomber today. Yeah, but then you they find a way
to snatch defeat from the jaws ofhim to the victory. You know,

(16:10):
and it's it's it's just it's toughto watch. And it's not like the
Rockies bats or have been really helpingout either. I mean, Nolan Jones's
batt in less than two hundred,Brenton Rodgers, Montero totally, Chris Bryant,
They're all bat in less than twohundred. Chris Bryant looks like a
shell of them. So, man, somebody's compared to last year. He's
got to get that guy shot ofconfidence. Okay, Well, first of
all, it's like like today wasgreat for Chris Bryant to be totally honest,

(16:33):
putting his the barrel of the baton the ball. But it just
seemed like in the past couple ofgames he could have been the hero.
And it's like it's the hero moments. As an athlete, you live for
those moments. Those are those impactliver or died moments. And I thought
he was going to have that momenttoday when they had runners on and he
was gonna save the game. Butit's like, uh no, And ball

(16:56):
is one of those sports where likeif you can have one of those moments,
you can carry that with you fora long time. Yes, but
you got I mean, Brian's beento the plate thirty five times this year,
four hits, four walks. Whatdo you think is going through his
head every single time? Because hefinds himself down oh too early. I
wonder if he's got Quicksand man,you know we talked you ever watched you
watch that movie The Replacements? Yes, and Shane Foucle's talk about quick say

(17:18):
everyboy's talk aoutings of ten. He'sa Quicksand he's just like when you start
struggling, you know, and thenyou try to overcorrect that, you keep
struggling, you're digging yourself in deeper. Yeah, And it feels like every
time you watch Chris Bride come tothe plates, what it looks like.
That's a great analogy. It lookslike Quicksand I'm wondering, like, when
he comes to the plate, ishe replaying everything that went bad in previous

(17:41):
games? And the reason I saythat because if you're doing that as an
athlete, it's like like driving yourcar. You're constantly looking in the rear
view mirror so you can't see what'sright through the windshield in front of you
to pay attention, and then yourun into some or you create a car
crash. Yeah, and it justseemed like every time he's at the plate.
Hell, I'm nervous, right,I'm even not at the play,

(18:03):
I'm nervous. I'm like, comeon, man, let's do it.
And I'm like, well, ifI'm feeling that type of anxiety, what
is he going through? Then hegoes down, oh too, And then
now he figures guess what it's likea quarterback, I gotta press. Yeah,
I'm deep in the couch. Yeah, I gotta protect the play,
yes, right, And it's justit's just it's just it's just been bad.
There have been some some uh,some bright spots. Ryan McMahon has

(18:26):
been on a tear No not openingday game. I mean awesome about the
Grand Slam. Like I said,he's riding that wave. Yeah, he's
riding that way. You know you'vehad uh. I think uh, Charlie
Blackman's played better than I think peoplethought he was gonna play for his age.
Just a wonder kind of going on. Diaz continues to show that he's
he's got a little something. Samething with Tovar. I think Brett Doyle

(18:48):
has played better to start this season, but the rest of the rest of
the bats just haven't been there.There hasn't been a lot of power thus
far out of those bats this year. And this is not a team.
This is not a small ball team. It's not a small balladium. With
that being said, I know everyoneloves the home run, that people live
and die with the home run inbaseball, but I mean a couple of
years ago the Kansady Royals one itstitle playing small ball. Well, the

(19:14):
Cardinals played small ball for quite awhile, and I'm thinking, okay,
well, as why is the outfieldis here at coolest? Phil? Yeah,
if you can go yard, godo it. But get the triple,
get the dubleuff. We had ateam full of each ros. It'd
be easy to do, don't Wehad one of those just saying, oh

(19:36):
my goodness, it's great being backhere with you guys. Benefresh Air we
had. Broncos have had some Topthirty visits. Smell Kuiper put his mock
draft out. We're gonna talk aboutwhat all that stuff means next. Broncous
Country Night, Kwei the long ball, Welcome back to it, Broncos Country
Tonight, Benjamin Albrighten, Nick Ferguson, Grant Smith, here with you,
NFL now allowing for a third helmetdesign. To see that a third helmet.

(20:00):
Yeah, they're gonna give their allowteams to wear three different helmets in
a season instead of just two likethey used to. The niicification of of
the league continues to Nike the alternateuniform combos scarification. I like that.
You're welcome. Does that mean thatthe rate of concussions are gonna go down
because of that? Is that whatthat means? I just think it means
you are three different helmets whatever.I think the Broncos can get the old

(20:22):
school you know, Bronco D,and then you can right, and then
you'll have the new helmet and thenyou can have like another alternate version on
top of that. See, Iagree with you, Graham. Some there's
there are some who don't like theold school D with the horse coming out
of it. I absolutely love it. I love that. I love that
helmet. It's really very nostalgic andand visually stunning. Like there's so many

(20:48):
colors that the Broncos can tinker withto to really make that really jump off
the page. There are I'd liketo see, uh, the original,
the original helmet. They were gonnado they had like the frost an over
kind of blue thing. I'd loveto see that, or like a gradient
like white mountaintop kind of old helmetthing. I'm not really into like the
football fashion component of it, butthat that kind of looked cool to.

(21:08):
Okay, how about this, let'stoss this out this even the text us
think about this. How about youknow, teams always looking for ways to
enhance the game, right, sowhy don't we This may sound crazy,
but I just had this visual ofhaving that decal and the helmet look kind
of like three D. Yeah,I'm not a post that, Yes I'm

(21:32):
not. I mean it's you know, it is what it is. I
think you just have you know,you'll have the blue helmet, the white
helmet, the throwback helmet. Ithink it was what you'll wind up having.
I don't know why the league hasso many rules on what different helmets
and socks and all that kind ofstuff you have to do. I never
understood that I would love to seea team or a league mashup. What
I mean is, though AFC NFCteams swap colors just for one game,

(21:59):
right, I know they gave usthe color rush with those Neon Bright uniforms
and everything. Yeah, but Iwould love to see they've swapped colors,
just just just for just just forone game. You think, did Miami's
gonna do that and get away fromyou know, because they got that advantage.
They wear the white uniforms at home, they put the opponent the colors,
and they put him out in thesun. Well, Miami still can
wear their white uniforms, but let'sjust say it is in the Rams color.

(22:23):
That's all I'm saying. Oh,that's see, this is too complicated
for me. I'm not ready forall that. That's way way too much.
It means way too much, becausethen I'm gonna think I'm watching the
Rams. Oh you're not. I'mgonna think I'm watching the Viking and it's
gonna be like the Jets. Okay, what did what did you think you
were watching when you watched the Thursdaynight color Rush games? I thought I
was going nuts because we had theorang and going on. I'm like,
this is stupid. Say Easter hascome twice. I'm just saying I didn't

(22:47):
I didn't like I didn't like thatthat said. I mean, you know,
as far as the Broncos helmets.Go, Yeah, I think we
all love the D. Yes,Yes, let's put the D back at
defense. How about that? Surethat was in no way trying to get
one over on you? And justdid The Broncos have had some top thirty
visits and I think it's showing ussomething distinct here. This team is bringing

(23:10):
in running backs, a bringing intight ends, APT bringing it in corners.
Those are three positions. George Paytonsaid that they wanted to evaluate that
they wanted to address this offseason.They haven't done a whole lot to address
that. I believe that they willbe addressing those things in the draft.
Well. Yeah, here's the thingthat's interesting about the Top thirty visits,
Like, obviously based on the playersthat in the positions that the Broncos have

(23:33):
brought in, these are positions theyfeel are positions of need, and you
get a chance to interview these guys, kick the tires, put them on
the board, ask them a lotof questions. But here's what we also
know to as well that just becauseteams bring in those prospects, they don't
always draft those guys, right,they don't because some down what's that intel?

(23:56):
Things sometimes like for instance and I'llput it to you this way.
I don't think the Broncos are inon Michael PENNOCKX. I do think the
Raiders might be not in the firstround. And if you're the Denver Broncos,
doesn't it be who of you tobring in a guy you think your
opponents might be interested in who mightbe their quarterback and you know, just
skill intel. Yeah, obviously yougot to play the game within the game,

(24:17):
right, So you you get anearly scouting report on that particular guy,
you may give him some of yourdefensive office of concept, not all
of them, not all the goodstuff, but you just give some of
it to see how well he's ableto diagnose and process information. Yeah,
I mean, you know, it'sremember what Belichick used to sign guys right
before they played them. You know, Well Bela was an only guy that

(24:38):
did that. No, but Imean right, so that was Yeah.
In fact, I know of aBroncos receiver that was picked up just for
that purpose who gave them all incorrectinformation, like totally wrong info, even
when they're not a Broncos. TheBronco I think he knew he was coming

(25:00):
back to the Broncos kind of thing. I think he did that. I
think I think the trojan horse stillon purpose. And listen, man,
I get it. Don't bring mein, take all my information and they
kicked me to the curve. Theydo that, you'd give me a one
week paycheck to come in here incell Saty, I'm a rat man me.
No, yes, not doing that. I give them all fake info
too. I totally would everything fake. Oh it would be totally fake,

(25:22):
fake fake. Yeah, well thishandslingle means this knowing it doesn't mean that.
And then guess what, like ifyou're still in the building, yeah,
that would be a problem. Butif they release you, then it's
like there's no love loss. Whatdid you actually lose? I mean yeah,
at that point, I mean,you'll be able to tell if for
a couple of practices, if you'reif you're going to be in that building
or not. Yeah, you know, so, yeah I probably would.

(25:45):
I probably do some stuff like that. But I think the Broncos, I
think the top thirty visitors saying something. I think that did. George Peyton
laid it out at the combine whenhe said they needed to work on linebacker
and corner and running back and tightend, that they were Those are areas
that they wanted to, you know, to improve. But it also helps
the Broncos in the evaluation process becauseobviously by now they put their boards together
and between now and you know twoweeks from now, that information is going

(26:07):
to change. So you may bringin a guy and you may talk to
him. You may see certain attributesthat you didn't really take into account for
a guy that you're looking to playthat position. So speaking to one of
those, you know, the playersthat you're bringing in now, they may
give you something else that you needto evaluate moving forward based on that particular
position. So that's the great thingabout it. Now. One of the

(26:30):
guys who the Broncos brought in itwas Luke McCaffrey, right, and obviously,
you know, think about what hisfather was able to do in the
Broncos uniform. You had to bringin Luke McCaffrey, right, just for
from the legacy standpoint, and howgreat would it be if the Broncos did

(26:51):
select Luke McCaffrey. And I don'thave it pulled up right now, who's
wearing eighty seven? Right now?Do we know who's wearing eighty seven for
the Broncos? Right? Now,right now, right now, because if
no one's wearing eighty seven tight endor wide receiver, it would be great.
And maybe this just me and justnostalgia to see another McCaffrey in eighty
seven wearing a Broncos uniform. DavidSills wears it right now, Oh,

(27:17):
David Sills whatever. Anyway, hewas the wide receiver that used to be
a quarterback of West virgin He wasthe guy that Lane Kiffin offered at thirteen
years old. Yeah, Broncos roster, okay, whatever, no disrespect,
but Luke McCaffrey was remind a lotof Broncos fans of his father because he's
not faster than his father. SoI would definitely love to see that.

(27:38):
Didn't he run like a four tothree something, like I said, faster
than his father, right, Sothat would be great. But once again,
all these guys that the Broncos bringingin the top thirty visits, not
every guy they're going to keep orthey're going looking to draft. But something
you brought up this really interesting,Ben, is the running back position.
And maybe we get to to today, but I think this is a bigger

(28:02):
topic because while we always here bythe quarterbacks and the Broncos really don't have
one at this moment, even thoughStadium's on the roster. I think we
need to kind of take a deeperdive into that because I think the Broncos
still need to I will say upgrade, but add more depth in that area.
Yeah, I think that they.I mean I agree, by the
way, it's a four to fourto two for Luke McCaffrey, not fourty

(28:22):
three. But no, wait,no, for her is not faster than
four three. I'm four six letsfaster than his brother. Yeah, fastest,
fast, fast and fast. AndI think they get all the speed
from their mom. But you know, I think Lisa is the way they
get that. Would agree with mesaying all the speef for mom was least

(28:45):
likely a track star. I thoughtshe played soccer. I thought she I
thought she was like really good attrack too. I don't know wrong,
we'll figure that out to the breakright now, let's go ahead and check
traffic table. Brian, Welcome backto it, Broncos Country tonight. Benjamin
ol Brighten, Nick Ferguson, GrantSmith here with you. Ryan Michael's gonna
be coming up next and going insidethe numbers. It's got some get some
stuff for us. I would lovehaving him on. Man, he makes
data so digestible, it's not boring, you know when he when he gets

(29:07):
on there and does that. Andof course he he's a writer and contributed
to the Pro Football Hall of Fame, does quality work, done him a
long time, so good to havehim on as well. I I talked
a little bit about the Broncos Topthirty visits and what they mean. And
I really do think that the closerwe get to this draft, the less

(29:33):
I am convinced that Bownicks at twelveis a thing that's happening, the less
I'm convinced that they're gonna be ableto move up to get a quarterback.
I had this discussion and uh withwith with Ryan yesterday. I talked to
somebody it's currently employed in the leaguein scouting, evaluating, making decisions,
that kind of thing, and Iwas talking about some of these quarterbacks and

(29:53):
we talk about Boeticks and he said, tell tell me something that Bownicks does
better than Derek Carr. Is thatthe comp for Bonick bo Knicks. Yeah,
And it's not to say that thatDerek Carr is a bad player.
I mean Derek Carr is a perfectlyfirst serviceable starter in this league. But
he had a point. I mean, what does Bonnicks do that that Derek

(30:17):
Carr doesn't? And I couldn't thinkof this single. I mean, maybe
BOE's a little bit more escapables,you know, maybe he's got a little
bit more escapability. But they bothlook to dump it down quick wit a
minute. Okay, so why isthat such a bad thing. That's not
necessarily a bad thing, but sometimes, you know, some of these quarterbacks
come off that don't don't have enoughpatience and they just they're just getting rid

(30:40):
of it quick. The bridgewaters inthe world, right, that comes to
point where you've got to hang inthere and be patient. Sometimes you can't
just take the you know, youcan't just take the freebie, because then
you wind up and you wind up, you wind up after your coach decides
to run the ball, you windup in third and eight taking the guinea
and then it's fourth and two.Man as they say, you can't go
broke taking the prophet. Yeah,but put six yards when you need eight

(31:02):
and a prophet. That okay,some of that is play design too,
right, and it's running by thewide receivers. If you need eight,
you can't cut it off at seven. I'm here and I'm here for that.
And a lot of coaches have triedto throw. You know, we'll
throw at six and you have thereceiver pick up too, and they never

(31:23):
do. But you know, likeTeddy Bridgewater when he's here, had a
historically bad third down conversion rate.His story, he had an old time
completion percentage on third down and anold time low conversion percentage. Okay,
well, Teddy is Teddy, right, let's be totally honest, and it's
fine, and I'm excuse me.But what I'm getting at is that Derek

(31:45):
car is a guy who doesn't stickwith it long enough sometimes. And Boonix
looks like he's kind of that guytoo. See, I don't versus some
guys they only want to play yolow ball. See I don't agree with
that, because now it's like,you damned if you do, you damned
if you don't. At these quarterbackprospects. Well, you gotta find a
balance. Yes, that's the wholething. You gotta find a balance.

(32:06):
You've got to be able to yougot to be able to get rid of
it quickly when you need to,but you got to be willing to hang
in there. Sometimes. Listen whatwe've seen over the past couple of years
in the league. Yeah, Imean like Tua had to learn that.
Okay, over the past couple ofyears, scoring has gone down so and
so that the lead decided, guesswhat, they were going to change the
rules on kickoff to increase scoring becausedefensive units are starting to get a lot

(32:30):
better. Right, So quarterbacks arenot able to take the shots down to
feel that they used to take yearsago. So you have to take that
checkdown. You have to take theeight yard pass or the ten yard pass.
Oh, by the way, thatten yard pass is still an explosive.
Yeah, ten yard passes an explosivenow would have been a checkdown deal
for twenty five years ago. Ifyou can give the checkdown to a guy

(32:51):
like a Bijon Robinson right as acheckdown, you let it make a guy.
He can make a guy miss.That's not a bad decision. I'm
not saying it's not. I justthink you gotta find the bounce. You
gotta be willing to hang in there. If you could merge what we've seen
out of bo Nix and like DrewLocke, you know where you're just sitting
there looking for the hero ball versusget rid of it too quick or early
to who got rid of it tooquick? And that's the problem. See

(33:13):
you guy guys staring standing in thepocket looking forward to make that hero throw
one is just like, well,you know what, there's a guy standing
over here eight yards seven yards away. Yeah, lived to fight another day.
Finding the balance on that. We'regonna get a chance to talk to
Ryan Michael, who has been ananalyst for the Pro Football Hall of Fame.
Collum was animals for the Pro FootballHall of Fame. When we come
back, he list Broncos, Country, Tonight, ka Wait,