04-11-24 Hour 2 of Broncos Country Tonight

Episode Transcript

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Welcome to it Broncos Country tonight.But with all Brian Dick, Ferguson,
Grant Smith, que to Kay ComminsprailHotline, Bring on Roby Bean from CBS
romy How are you doing this evening? I'm doing great. Are you trusting
anybody with your banking information? LikeShowhi did with his U with his interpreter.
Look, all I'm saying is,even if you're getting a seven hundred

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million dollar paycheck, you're not gonnanotice that even five is gone. Yeah,
the whole thing is real. Literally, he lost the entire Oakland Athletics
payroll at gambling. No, Imean it's just there's there's no way he
didn't know. And Major League Baseballwill make sure that show he stays in
the league and nothing happens. Imean, come on right, like this

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is the face of baseball. Butthe whole thing is very fishy, very
fishy. Well was dettally on isroamy. And when professional sports started to
get into bed with these sports bookagencies, what did they think was gonna
happen? Look at what was happeningwith the NFL, and now the trickle
down of the fact of what's happeningin the NBA and the possibility of player

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maybe I guess I want to saythrowing games based on you know what people
were wagering from the over and under. I mean, didn't we anticipate that
this was gonna happen when you openedPandora's Box? I mean yeah, I
think it's I think that they've donetheir best, if you will, to
regulate it. And the NFL iscertainly levied some very heavy fines on guys.

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I mean that are suspended right forseasons or Oasriquez just indefinite, right,
I mean that, but you openup Pandora's box. It's the same
thing with nil guys, Like howdo you You can't reel it back in?
Right? Like you hear the storyabout at Point Guard or the Center,
whoever it was at Kansas who wentand said he wanted a million bucks

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and Kansas said we'll give you sevenhundred and fifty k. Like it's out
the bag now. I don't knowhow you reel it in. I don't
know how you regulate it, andso it's I mean, I don't know,
you know, I think they levythose heavy punishments. Maybe guys will
listen, but apparently they don't soI think the CAB is just alp.
Yeah, the NFL has guidelines thatthey put out. It wasn't Riquez eligible

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for reinstatement in July, I believe, But it's you know, it's it's
it's it's permeating the league and thereare to me, I don't understand not
being clear on the rules, butapparently there are players who are unclear on
the rules. We saw, youknow, Calvin Ridley and all that kind
of stuff happen as well. Atthe end of the day, I mean,
I go, who am I totell somebody what to do with their

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money. We get a lot oftext on here, well why do you
guys advocate for it? And I'mlike, I don't have the kate for
any of it. I mean Idid. I did endorse BET and GM,
I had an in the interest ofold disclosure. I had an endorsement
to deal with them for a while. But I don't advocate for anything.
You do what you want with yourmoney. I'm not gonna tell you what
to do or don't do. Don'tdon't tell me what to do or don't
do with mine, and we'll keepit even. But the only thing I
think that we're concerned about is whathas happened with for instance, Michael Porter

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Junior's little brother, John Tae Porter, where he found the one way to
game the system for your boys,and that's tell your buddies to go put
a bunch of money on the underson things. I'm gonna fake an injury
and I'm get out of here andall the uners are gonna cash. Yeah.
I mean, at the end ofthe day, you're depending on guys
to, you know, uphold theintegrity of the game as they call it.
You're you know, there's you canlay out the rules and you can

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tell these guys not to do it, and I think most of them won't,
but there's really nothing you can dowhen it comes to human nature and
that you know, ninth guy outof ever, the one guy out of
every ten, thinks he can bendthe rules or get away with it.
And it is mind boggling to mewhen you're making that much money and you
have that much opportunity to just throwit all away. But you know,

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they don't think they're going to getcaught. And I think again, you're
just you're to use the trite word, you're gambling on them to do the
right thing. Yeah, not topivot too hard here, but this has
been an interesting month for sports overall, as women's college basketball eclipsed the basketball
world. You look at the ratings, and Caitlin Clark's certainly largely responsible,

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though I think great teams from areSouth Carolina and Daniel LSU and the rivalry
there. I think that all helpBOOI that a little bit. But does
that carry forward because we have aw NBA team that is already changing venues
and locations to try to make surethat Caitlin Clark games are larger venues to
cash in on this. You know, this is so funny. I was
talking about this with someone today andI'm curious to see if it's going to

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continue forward or not. I thinkinitially it will, right like you see
that the Aces are moving over toT Mobile Arena for that game already,
and everyone's announcing. I mean,the CBS just announced it renewed partnership with
WNBA and the ESTN and ABC.I think thirty nine of the forty Fever
games are gonna be nationally televised orsomething like that. So I think initially

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it will doesn't have staying power Imean that's always the question, right.
I think it's like anything else,this is this is a moment for the
WNBA, for women's basketball specifically,and it's what you do going forward,
right. You have to keep Youcan't just sit on your laurel, so
to speak. Right, So,what are they going to do next to
keep intentifizing people to keep wanting tokeep watching the game, or does it

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just have enough star power now thatit's only going to keep building. I'm
very curious. I don't know whatthe answer to that is. Right now,
it certainly has a great amount ofstar power and it's a whole lot
of fun, and you hope theycan continue it. I just think it's
going to be interesting to see,like mid season, when you revisit this
the WNBA, is there's still asmuch hype. I don't know, but

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you know, I hope there willbe speaking to that. I think every
hero needs a villain, and whenyou look at women's basketball, that's kind
of one of those things that propelledit to the forefront. But last night
here in Denver, there was somevillains coming into you know, the ball
arena, and that was the tWolves, and there was this simulcas as

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ESPN. They do all the time, but it was on ESPN two and
Kevin Hart was sitting with the entertainerand he has some very interesting things to
say about NICOLEA. Yaks. Iwant you to take a listen. They
cannot give Joker anymore VP no,no, no, get a Joker anymore
m VPS. It's not good inthe ND. Joker cannot win another let's

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just v P. That's different.That's playing, that's that's playing the game.
But but the league m v P. I feel like you're right,
like they can't really do that atthis moment. And a great year,
but it doesn't it doesn't feel likethat dominant the year the way I would
say says you made a very greatman. You know what I decided with

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you, Kevin, you just didit. You just sold me anybody everybody
else with Now that that was KevinHard talking with Cedric Entertainer. But I
found that really interesting because the mv P is one of those most talked
about, you know, accolades thatare given the sports athletes. And I
feel, and maybe I've made feela little biased, and you tell me,

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based on what I've seen Kis dohere, right, Kevin Hart,
excuse me on point when he justsaid, well, it's not going to
be a good thing for the NBAto give it to Nikole Jokic over Shy
Gilds Alexander. No, he's absolutelywrong. The definition of an MVP is,

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first of all, you can lookup at Jokic's numbers, right,
I think he just passed well foryou know, however, I think he
starred most now on a six alltime for senators. I mean he's always
doing something. You know, He'salways in the history books for this,
that or the other. But thedefinition of an MVP is someone who makes
everyone around him better. And youlook at last night and you have got
Christian Brown doing these crazy dugs andPeyton Watson having big games, and you

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know who was ever on the floorof Nikolaiokic looks like a superstar? Right,
What does Christian Brown look like onanother team? I still think he's
talented, but he met Nicole makesevery single person on that team better.
Look at Aaron. Aaron Gordon's careerwas like almost dying out in the Magic
came Here. He's the perfect fit. He's got this incredible chemistry with Nakoliokic.

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I mean, there's it's undeniable tome that I think that what gets
lost in the MVP is who makesIt's not just the individual numbers, but
it's who makes everyone around them better. And that's why I think Nathan mckinn
should win the MVP too, becauseif you look at the other guys that
are in contention for Art Trophy,the difference is Mac has his whole line

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is super productive as well. Everyonearound him is getting better, is doing
better, is putting up big numbers. That to me, is such a
big piece of what an MVP shoulddo and should be. So I think
that there's some other things to this. I think Kendrick Perkins started a whole
thing last year and if there wasso much just hate and vitriol and it

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it was terrible. But I don'tknow. I don't know how you can
watch Nikoliogic on a daily basis.And again I think this is usually people
who don't watch Nikola Jokic on adaily basis because you can't get it and
it's hard to see it on TVand this that or the other. But
when it comes to the playoffs,everybody's watching him. And then all of
a sudden. Ever, really,oh wow, he's the best player in
the world, so I think it'sit's part of that as well. But

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no, I like Kevin Hart.You do not like this take it off?
Well? Who knew could Kevin Hartcould be hilarious? You know,
I think it was that funny.And they said that. I was like,
wow, okay, oh, I'mbeing told he's not joking. First
of all, MVPs are earned.They're not They're not given, you know,
they're awarded, but they're awarded basedon and Nicola Jokic continues to earn
it, and I don't know,he's saying it's bad for the NBA for
a player, Oh, it's badfor the NBA to think that you have

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to force the award to someone whodeserves it less. And then to me,
it felt like, uh, withwith the embiid situation, they almost
did that because they didn't want backto back to back Nicola Jokic because you
know of the of the connotation there, And I feel like that's stupid.
I mean, at the at theend of the day, that's hearing the
award, give it to him andmove on about your day, right,

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I don't know why, you're aright it should go to the best player
in the league, and it's veryclear who the best player in the league
is. So I'm not sure whythat would be bad for the league in
any ways. It's just it's reallynot a good take. Well, it
is what n and I were kindof going back and forth, and you
know, he let the cat outof the bag, and I think he

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just changed his answer for the sakeof the conversation. But I asked him,
I said, well, with theMasters of you know, being played,
what's just harder to do winning aMaster's or winning a gold jacket and
becoming a Hall of Famer in football? Well, I don't know how many

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people have won the Masters historically?How many years as the Master there's three
hundred something Hall of Famers. Iguess you could look at it that way.
Yeah, I think I don't know. That's that's that's really tough.
That's that's debating. I don't know, that's actually really really tough. I
think the thing one thing with golfthat's so tough is it's such a mental

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game because you're by yourself, right, I mean, yeah, you got
your caddy, but you got towin that all by yourself a lot of
times. The Hall of Famer whocertainly lifts his team up a lot,
but you do have the team aroundyou right to support you a lot of
time. So I think in thatessence it's it's really hard. But I
don't know. I don't feel likethere's a right answer to this one.

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I thought you were gonna ask me, like, I don't know, I
don't know. That's yeah, Ikind of it took me a minute there.
I'm like front by the math.I think, you know, maybe
statistic if it's the same way ifsomebody asked you if winning the lottery or
climbing Mount Everest was harder, Like, obviously physically climbing Mount Everest is is
more difficult, but statistically speaking,it's more difficult to win the lottery than

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climb Mount Everest. Yeah. Ijust think sometimes you'll watch these guys,
like some of the best golfers inthe world, and you can just see
them like mentally crumble. It's golf. It's the individual part of it,
I think makes it a little bitmore challenging to win on your own.
But there's no one's trying to hityou roby, No one you're just out

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there on the green with people watchingsweating. If you have you know,
you're familiar with the Georgia heat.Yes a minute, that's just like you're
gonna tell me, like the sportsindividuals, those are actual athletes. That's
what you have, athlete as anas driver. I'm actually gonna amend my
answer, but for a different reason. Okay, it's harder to become a

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Hall of Famer because even if youhave the best career, you are now
at the liberty of this voting committee, so you can put everything at golf.
You win that message because you wonand you've had the best you know,
four rounds out of anyone. Butwith the Hall of Aamer, we
see this a lot. There's alot of guys that probably should be in
there, but it's up to themercy of a committee, and it's out

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of your hands once you've retired.So that is a whole nother wrench in
things that I think makes it harderbecause they're so many pieces you can't control.
So you're saying this a gold jacket, right, I'm gonna say it's
the gold jacket. Thank you,Thank you, Robbie. I see you
year two under coach Prime if theysold something like eighteen thousand, I think

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tickets for the for the spring game. Is this Is this a year where
CU has to deliver on wins?Or is this you know, is this
still just a building project for forghost Prime At this point. I don't
think the building projects because I thinkit's a very real question of how long
he may stay for and nobody reallyknows that answer. But the way he's
constructed this team, which is primarilythrough the transfer portal, has been is

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a win now model, and he'snot been hasn't been shy about that.
He said, that's exactly why itis. That's why he doesn't have a
lot of freshmen. So if you'regoing to go by that model, then
yeah, you got to win now. That's the whole essence of the way
this team was constructed. And Ithink off of last year you went in
and filled a lot of holes fromthat wasn't there, particularly in the trenches.

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The wide receiver room is obviously stackedan insane level, so you seem
to have a lot more pieces.I think it is it's a win this
year type of the thing. Doesthat mean how many you got to win?
More than last year for sure.But this is not this is not
really a long term building project.This is certainly a win now model,

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right, and we look forward toseeing that along with kind of the cultural
epicenter that coaches created here in Coloradoand seeing if that translates into wins.
Whether or not that will er won'tremains to be seen. Romy We appreciate
the time, Romy Bean, sportsanchor reporter at CBS News Colorado. Always
appreciate having you on. Hey,before you let me go, how about
them piles for the national title.Let's go most in college hockey history.

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There we go. That's right,go piles. So appreciate it. Talkhleter
romy Be CBS. We come back, Hall of Famer Toil Davis, Brocos
Country to night. Oh worry m. It's just still in good shape.
All you gotta do is just dapingin. Just dap it in third and

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three from midfield, Broncos again withthree receivers out, McCaffrey in motion on
the left side as Lway with along snapcount. It's on his way.
Davis handoff first down, Terrell Davisa forty five. Holy oh, look
out, goodbye TD for TD fiftyyards on the kerry for Terrell Davis.

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Now he is greeted by some happyteammates who are saluting him in the end
zone. Welcome back to it,Broncos country tonight. Benjamin Albrighten, Nick
Ferguson, Grant Smith here with you. You're gonna go right out to the
KWA Common spiritalf hotline number thirty inyour programs, number one in your heart.
Bring on, Hall of Fame runningback Torel Davis TD. How you
doing, baby go on? I'mdoing doing pretty well, man, doing

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pretty well. Good to hear yourvoice. We're uh. We've been having
a lot of discussion about these theseDenver Broncos these days and the direction that
they're heading. I just wanted tostart off by getting your general thoughts about
the state of the team now inthe direction that it could be heading.
I don't think it's a secret,man. I think we all kind of

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you know, you should be cleared. Yeah, I think we all kind
of feel the same way. Youknow, it's been rough the last eight
years. I believe, so,you know, you let you bring in
Sean, you know, Peyton comesin and I believe he's the man.
I think he's gonna do what's necessaryto get this team turned around. I

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mean, you know, it's been, it's been, it's been a while.
You know, obviously as the Broncos, you know, not only a
fan, but as you know,former player, it kind of it hurts
a little bit to kind of seethe team struggling the last couple of years
and I was a disappointment and Russellcoming over and not not panning out.
I rooted for him to be theanswer for us. It wasn't. So

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now it's time to turn the page. And and if I'm a team,
if I'm a player on that team, it's more like, hey man,
you know, we certainly need tofind that guy, whether he's in the
draft, and I pray that there'sa guy that Sean loves that he wants
to either move up for or hashis eyes on, that he can bring
in that fits what he's looking for. I'm not saying going to reach for

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any quarterback, but you got tofind that signal caller that's just a bottom
money. You got to find one. You got to get somebody in here
who can stabilize this program and thentry to get this thing rebuilt and see
what happens from there. Man.But it's it's all task. It's not
gonna be easy. I think we'vegot to be patient because it's not gonna
happen overnight. You know, Rebuildingthe program is not not easy, trying

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to get all the pieces that youneed him to get this thing going.
So, you know, I'm likeeverybody else, I'm anxious to see what
happens in about two weeks. Ibelieve that's when of the draft is.
Yeah, you curious all that stuff, and uh, you know too,
that happens, man. But everysingle year we have so much talk about

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the quarterback position. And that's great, you know, yeah you need one
of those guys. But I feel, especially being a defensive guy and having
to stop running backs, we keepseeing that the valuing of the running back
position. But I want you totell the listeners, why is it that
having a great running game is kindof like the best medicine for any quarterback

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that you have? No it isit is? Nick? I mean,
it's the obvious. Well maybe it'snot obvious, but I also think that
it's it's tough when you don't havethat that quarterback, you know, running
running back is he really is aquarterback best friend? You know, and
he's a defensive you know, defensiveplayer's best friend and all the you know,

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he can can really bring a lotof value to a team. But
the challenge with running back in today'sfootball, it's there's a number of challenges.
Number one, when do you everpractice running the football? You can't
do it, nick when you play, you know how it is, man,
you can't simulate running the ball.You have to put pads on.

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You have to get lineman actually hitting. They don't do that anymore. So
that's the problem. The other thingis that most linemen aren't built now to
run block. They're all pass blockers. When they come from college, they're
all in two point fans. Soyou have to really commit on a whole
different level if you want to bringin and have a sustainable run game.

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It's just a different mindset for ateam and a lot of you know,
I guess the other I mean,another point I would to make is that
a lot of coordinators aren't getting headcoaching jobs because they got a great running
game. They're trying to get youknow, five wide. They want to
throw the ball forty times a game. They want to show how dynamic their

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passing game is they want to showhow create if they are and you know,
getting the ball downfield. So it'snot that's the part of the game
to have a running game when Ibut I know, believe me, I
know the value of having a runninggame. But it does require you to
go all in with all different positionsand kind of change the whole dynamics of

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your team. And I don't thinka lot of coaches or gms or the
presidents or owners are that's not affectedthem anymore. You know, the Niners
do it. They did a reallygood job with that. But if you
see how they do it in SanFrancisco with you know, Kyle, it's
it's Christian, but it's also youknow, it's receivers getting getting involved and

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everybody's involved. There's a lot ofeye can a lot of misdirections, just
you know, deceptive kind of concepts. But yeah, I don't know,
man, it's just it's a differentgame. It's a different game. But
I certainly do believe that you needa running back, but I don't.
Maybe you're insinuating build, build arunning game and then for the quarterback and

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this, which is what you're saying, is what I'm hearing well for me,
I know the value of that therunning back position. But I look
to San Francisco as being one ofthose teams, like they didn't go get
a first round draft choice, butthey have a combatant signal caller and they
just kind of build around that guyand they were successful. And I think
that that's the idea of model.Yeah. No, I think there's two

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philosophies if you want to take theoppost right. There's one where you build
everything around until you find that quarterback, and that's that's what the forty nine
ers have done. And the otherphilosophy is we're gonna we're gonna get a
quarterback and build around him. Butwell, here's what I'm saying. I'm
standing at if Sean if he likesthe guy he loves a quarterback in this

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draft and he said that's my guy, then I hope he gets that guy.
But if he does and he's justgetting a quarterback to grab one,
then obviously I'm not. I don'tthink that's the route you should go.
You know, I'm praying that heloves somebody and that we don't know about
it. They had us. Hehas his eyes on that and he's saying,

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this is my guy. I'm goingto go get him. And that's
where I feel like he's going tobe the guy that that fits what I'm
looking for. It's either that oryou just don't. Yeah, I'm with
you. I don't. I don'tbelieve you go to reach for a guy
just because you need one. Idon't believe in that either. But I
also just believe that I hope.I'm hoping that behind the scenes that it's

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either I don't know, you knowwhat, I heard a lot of rumors
about Bownicks being the guy that helikes. I don't know if McCarthy's going
to be there when when we pickat twelve or if they move up,
or Michael Pennix. I don't.I'm not sure what, you know,
who he has his eyes on.But I do hope that he likes somebody.
I hope that he knows not theylike. Hope he loves one of
his quarterbacks. But if not,then I'm with you, man. Let's

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trade down, Let's get some value, Let's build a roster around. Let's
build a roster and then you know, be a little bit more strategic,
you know, strategic about a quarterbackdown the line. But man, it's
your looks. It don't look goodright now. You know, when you
don't have anybody that you really like, who really makes you excited about this

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franchise in terms the quarterback position,and that's what I'm saying. I'm saying,
you know you and we know whodrives at the end of the day,
who drives you're really getting your teaminto a position to make that run,
You got to have a quarterback.Yeah, I would agree, and
I think I agree on just aboutevery point there. And in the sense
that if you love somebody, goget him. If you don't, then
don't don't force it. Uh,don't don't tie yourself to somebody just to

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tie yourself to somebody. That's howyou wind up with the Packs and Lynch
type situation as well. I've been, you know, an advocate of if
the quarterback isn't there, if youif you can't get the guy you love,
whatever, build a bully. It'sbeen a long time since a Denver
Brocklear. You're hearing the highlights,you know, coming in before we brought
you on, you know, hearingthe highlights and everything. It reminds me
back before I lived in Denver,everybody viewed the Denver Broncos as a bully.

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And I've been here since twenty twelve. I mean, you know,
Peyton and then put up a lotof points, but it was the last
time the Denver Broncos were a bully. And I feel like that a return
to that, a return to theculture and the roots of what made the
Broncos the Broncos are the best thingin this case? Or am I am
I way off face here? No? No, no, no, no,
you're not. You're not You're notbitch. But I And so when

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you say that, it's so you'resaying build an office blind, right,
you're saying I don't believe you're saying, God, go get a fullback.
I'm not advocating for taking a fullback necessarily, but I'm not saying the
offense could use one. But maybeyou are. But maybe I don't know.
But to me that that's a bully. Right when you start getting throwbacks

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and you say, all right,we're gonna get an old line, we
don't get ourselves a of And mostpeople don't even know what a fullback is.
Probably, ladies and gentlemen, isa guy that linds up in the
back here right and turn the runningback. Okay. He weighs anywhere between
two hundred and twenty five to twohundred and sixty pounds. Okay, the
guy Nick Ferguson still has nightmares aboutYeah, yes, wow, yes,

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where's the next He wears the nextrole like a break around his neck.
Okay. He's very squatty. He'svery thousand squatty, and he's all he
does. His whole job is torun up into the lines and pit linebackers,
defensive linemen you know, doesn't mattertackles. That's his job. It's

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just to commit that act of justviolence and clearing the past. But are
running back if you want to bringhim back, we can do that too.
You're talking about double up on tightend and they're not past catching tight
ends. Ain't some of the guyswho are you know, hybrids who look
like look like receivers, but they'retight ends. No, we're not.
We're not talking about those guys.We're talking about some some some tight ends

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will look like left hackles. Yeah, that's bullyball, yes if you if
you're talking about that again, it'sjust it's a different era. And are
those guys out there. I justdon't even know if they exist anymore.
But if you if you decide toplay a little different football, I think
you'll have success doing it because that'sslid football. It definitely works. It's

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just again, how much are youpracticing it? Now? You have to
go get them. You have togo get personnel that fits what you want
to do, and you got tobe committed to it. You know,
you can't say, all right,we're going to play bullyball and then we're
halfway in and the mindset of theplayers don't fit what you what you want
to do. So I mean,it's it's not it's not simple. I

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think it's little. It's it's complicated. But yeah, man, I'm I'm
just I just want to see whathappens. I want to see how how
these next couple of weeks ago andin terms of you know, kind of
reachtocking this roster and see what directionwe want to go in. As a
guy who has a gold jacket,my biggest thing in one of the things

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that comes comes up a lot,and I get frustrated. You know,
every single year it's a guy thatboth you and I played for, even
though we didn't play it at thesame time, but we played for him,
Mike Shanahan, what the hell needsto be done to get this guy
his moment, his flowers, hisgold jacket. Well, who do we
need to talk to? Man?That's they do. That's another something.

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That's a track. That's a toughone. Man. There is there is
like there's not one person you needto talk to. I think there's a
room of people you need to talkto. And they're all the voters.
They I believe there's forty something.Don't quote me on this one, but
I believe there's about forty something voters. I know each team has a represented

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that vote, and then it's probablya couple other couple of other voters as
well. But now I'm with you, man, I think I think for
a long time, the first hurdlefrom Mike was that, remember, Mike
wasn't even in the Ring of Famehere in Denver, and I think that
that kind of hurt him a littlebit early on, where people are like,
wait a minute, Denver doesn't evenput him in a Ring of fame,

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So why are we gonna put himin the Hall of Fame? And
so now that he's in and Iknow he's getting a little bit more traction
now. But yeah, Mike,two Super Bowls. You know, we've
always said this man at Denver,was any any city that was on the
West Coast, in la or inNew York, we have more people in
the Hall of Fame, Mike wouldbe in. And so now we were

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getting him. Man Ranny's in,So that's that's awesome. We're starting to
get more more Broncos in. Butyeah, man, Mike might have to
get the next one to get tothe Hall of Fame. His resume is,
you know, you put his upagainst a lot of other coaches who
are in, it's clearly that thathe need is going, especially now that
you start to seeing what college isdoing. You see because other quarterbacks doing

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on the floor. I mean allthese quarterbacks who kind of spun off of
the Shanahan tree. I'm not quarterback, I'm sorry coaches first spun off the
San Shanahan tree. You kind ofsee Mike genius and how great he was
as a coach. He was thebest coach I've ever played for, by
far, and I ended up Iplayed for another Hall of Fame coach and
Georgia Allen. Most people don't evenknow that in college. But Mike was

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my best It was my best coach, my favorite coach, just because his
coaching style was more of a teacherand he understood the nuances of the game.
He was more Everything he did forus was like the why. It
wasn't just I'm telling you to dothis because I'm telling you. He was
like, all right, here's whyI'm telling you that. And just yet

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he made you think differently when youplayed this game. And uh, you
know we won forty six games ina three years span, two Super Bowls,
and you know we won fourteen youknow, I'm fourteen eighteen straight games.
I believe so and that that isnot you know, obviously it's not
easy to do. But he justhe knew the buttons to push and everything.

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Man. So yeah, Mike,He's definitely going in, hopefully sooner
rather than later. Man. ButMike, Mike definitely is Hall of Faper.
Absolutely, I think you would beU. Did you you know a
serious question here, something that hasweighed heavily on the minds of I think
every listener of the show. Ifyou and and Nick were to square up
like pros versus joes, who wouldget the better of that matchup. And

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why would you stiff arm Nick throughthe earth speaking of pushing buttons. Yeah,
yeah, yeah, let me see. Well here's the why. Because
I wasn't a one trick pony.Most people might think I was one trick

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pony, but I think the whatallowed me to really have success was that
I gave you a whole life.Like I run like I'm gonna run you
over, but I had them wiggle. I had to wiggle, so it
kind of kept you on your toes. Like Nick might come up thinking I'm
gonna run him over. So nowyou know he's gonna drop his head,
come in low, You're gonna tryto take my knees out. But yeah,

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I'm a blessing. I'm a blessed. I get him with the little
take the bait. Nick gonna takethe bait. I'm gonna go ahead and
kiss them when I think kiss me, putting my my you know, palm
of my hand on the back ofit. Just put your head. Wow,

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man, gosh, absolutely, I'mgonna get one of these crack animators
around here, the thing out,this thing. I'll put the video out
there on TV. Man. It'salways a pleasure hearing from you, man,
I hope you and you're doing well. Thanks for taking time out of
talks with tonight. Hey, noproblem, that's all right, y'all.
Take it absolutely, take care forall day. It's hall of famer.
You just had. You just hadto ask that question. Look, you

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know, as someone who has beenstiff armed through the earth himself, he
just he just wants to want tobe coserate. All right, you would,
Greg got the glassest thing going on. I needed us to bond over
something. Nick. I needed justto have something that's getting shoved through the
earth. I need bonding together.Was it? Who is it that Jayalen
Ramsey? Was that who just shovedhim through the earth the most disrespectful thing

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a running back could do to asafety TD said, he's just gonna do
that to you. No, no, what put me in there? Like
misery loves company stiff arm before.So now hey they come to him.
I'm a huge man of shining freudand so I'm just saying I delight in
other people get two shirts that saidwe both got stiff armed. And they
told like that was a loud shirt. Like I'm telling you, like,

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I don't know what it would belike for you. For me, it
was like the scene from uh withthe Avengers movie where she hits the Hult
that she just touches the Hulk andhis soul like it was like it was
like when Sonic would get hit inthe rings, you know, everywhere like
it was. It was not youknow, I just needed the I needed
the commiseration when we come back,let's talk talk about injecting a little browns

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into the Broncos run camp. Thisis the Broncos Country Night ka