04-18-24 Hour 2 of Broncos Country Tonight

Episode Transcript

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Welcome to it Broncos Country tonight.But with all bright Dick Ferguson, Grant
Smith, it's a little hungry.I had to get a pizza. I
thought you were going to bring inChipotle. Oh that Chapole you talk you
had earlier this week. I alreadyI had lunch with Ryan Edwards after the
presser. So what was I gottado with now? Now you're hungry?
Yeah, I'm hungry, Yes,so you should have I should order Chapole
again. Too much Chapole I eatalready. So you had Chipotle for dinner

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last night, yes, and thenagain for lunch today. Yes, and
tried to get it the day beforethat too, Right, Well, I
wouldn't have had it last night ifi'd had it the day before. Okay,
that's where you draw the line.Look, man, as long as
it's not doing one or two No, as long as it's not giving you
cause apation or give you diarrhea,it's all good. It's better than other

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things I could eat. Yeah,of course, like this pizza we're ordering.
Yeah, it was exactly like thispizza we just we just ordered five
six, six nine Yeros text line. Daniel Jeremiah was on Kioway Sports earlier
today and he talked with Ryan andbig Al about what the Broncos should do
at twelve. They stay put.For the Broncos, if they stay put,

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what do you think is going tobreak around that area that you think
would be a good target. Well, I think they you know, if
they if they don't get out ofthere, and if they're sticking and ticking,
you know, if they decide thatthey want to take a flyer on
it, like a Spencer Ratler,maybe they want to, you know,
try and maneuver around the board andslide back and maybe that can give him
a quarterback option. But let's justassume that they don't have a grade that

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matches these quarterbacks. I think itwould be pretty tempting there, you know,
when you're staring at the top cornerand potentially one of the top two
edge rushers that would be, thatwould be pretty tempting. As directions,
I would lean And I personally loveTerry and Donald. I know he didn't
run as fast as other people wouldhave loved, but his GPS numbers are

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fine. In game, he goesup against the best receivers in the country
in that conference, and he heldup really well, and he's just to
me, he's a ballhawk. He'sgoing to get a lot of attention.
With who's on the other side.I think he'd I think he'd be an
incredible plaintmaker on that defense. SoDaniel Jeremi a big fan of either edge
your corner there at twelve for thenever Broncos. I'm not opposed to it.

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I'm not in it. I amnot when we started, when we
first started talking about this, whowas my guy, Jared Verse? Yes,
you know or at the time Isaid kol Ag just for the name.
But I was fine with either Alabamacorner. Look, I'm not a
policy. I know Broncos fans seemto melt down we talk about corner at
twelve and I'm still pro trade back, but I'm not mad if they do
any of those things now. Terryand Honor was a guy who I thought

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would fit well with the Broncos.But for me, would it boils down
to it's looking within your conference,looking on your team first, what's positions
of need depth and how will yoube competitive or remain competitive with the indivision

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in the conference. Look around,most of the teams in the AFC talented
quarterbacks, talented young quarterbacks. Thatmeans that they're not going anywhere, ben
So how do you neutralize them?Two ways? Right? I know the
idea is score more points, obviousanswer. But there's another way to score
more points, and let's hold themthe fewer points exactly, and it's being

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able to get after that quarterback someoneto neutralize them. And I think big
Al was saying this that if I'mnot mistaken, hopefully them get this wrong.
I think Ryan was asking him,like, are you satisfied with where
the Broncos are from and the dresserstandpoint? And I think he said he's
okay with it. I am noteither, And to me, that's no
shade towards anyone on the Broncos inthe addresser room. But the more guys

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that you have to throw at thatopposing quarterbacks, you wear those tackles down.
So the same thing when we hadwe had coached Pigano sitting in here
on the show, we talked aboutthat, you know, and he's like,
yeah, He's like, you know, you got Nick Benito and he's
a starter. Maaron Browning has beentoo injured to really render a grade there
in terms of what you what youwant, you know, going for the
future. Drew Sanders has just madethe conversion. And Koopus is a rotational

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guy. Who's your third or fourthguy you know on any other team.
Yeah, he sets the edge welland you know he picks a few sacks.
But these kind of rotations, youget a stud in there and it
changes the complexion of things. TheBroncos were terrible at generating pressure last year.
If anyone wants any example to lookat, look at the Kansas City
game. When the Broncos won thatgame, Think about that was kind of
a team game. Everyone contribute offhis defense and special teams. But being

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able to put Patrick Mahomes in toughsituations. You can say he was sick
and all that. I don't giveyou Nicholas about that. He played Yeah
right, you feel you don't wantto be out there. Everybody's everybody's exactly,
everybody's sick. So if you're ableto add a guy opposite a Nick
Benito, because we saw when NickBenito wasn't in the lineup, it wasn't

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great for the Broncos defense. Andthere was he was in the lineup,
but he was rushback and he wasn'thealthy. So he wasn't the same person,
and they recognized that right away.They started sliding protection to his side.
We saw how that worked. Youknow, the only one on ones
were coming from the other side.They started doubling him up because they knew
there wasn't anything coming from the otherside. With all due respect to Coop
and Brown, Yeah, if youdon't have an elite pass rusher, and

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I'm going to say two of them, you were in trouble. You go
back to Super Bowl fifty if youdon't. If you don't want to go
back that far, go back tothe Broncos last game on the row when
they play the Raiders. Max Crosbyby himself right the Broncos offense look at

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if you really want an ample ofthis, and to back your point up,
Vance Joseph scheme relies on pressure upfront to be able to keep the
guys on the back end clean.Now, Vance was running a variant of
Vic's work, but vic scheme wasat its best when they had good edge
rushing coming in. You go backto Chicago when they had Khalil mack uh

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I think the other restaurant on theother side of his name escapes me right
now. But you go back toeven when Vick was in San Francisco,
when they have Olden Smith and JustinSmith, right, yes, like they
had great edge rushers and that's whatthey was it Leonard Floyd Floyd DIDs right
because I kept kind letter Willams,I knew that wasn't right. Thank you,
letter Floyd. You know vic schemehas thrived when you have that that

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it's a little bit different setup becausethe back end holds up till the pressure
gets it. But still, ifyou've got great they're gonna get there a
lot faster. And so that that'sin the end of the day, it
doesn't matter which philosophy you subscribe to. As long as you've got the horses
to be able to get there,you're you're gonna be You're gonna be fine.
And the Broncos don't have that.An idea is that Okay, well,
d J. Jones still here,Zach Allen is still here, and

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I thought Zach had a pretty goodyear last year exactly so. And then
they pick up Malcolm Roach so andthey added an Angela Blackson right. So,
so once again, if you adddominant edge pressure, that means they're
gonna have slab protection. One oftwo ways, they're gonna have to double
someone. So that means is though, you're going to create one on ones

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across the board, and you haveto win those one on ones to win
in this league. Yeah, andthe entire premise behind what Vance does is
getting, uh, those those guysup front, the three guys up front
to tie up those blockers so youget the one on ones on the outside,
whether you know or a shooting insideback or Todd Davis used to fill
that role for us when Vance wasthe head coach. But I mean that's

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that that's what that does. Youknow, guys like Zach Allen or you
know Roach or TJ. They're thereto tie up those other blockers. Now
it's actually a pretty good penetrator too. But you know, DJ, Malcolm
Roads, those guys are those guystie up blockers. That's what they do.
That's that's her that's your job andcreating these one on ones. Now
you need the bodies to be ableto get home. And what it does.
If you are a defensive coordinator,you can do so many things in

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the back end to really dictate tothe offense what they can and can't do.
And the best formula. Man,when you can get pressure with just
your front four guys and you don'thave to add anyone else into the mix,
it helps out. So once youget a Lamar Jackson, Justin Herbert,

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a Josh Allen, the list goeson to Patrick Mahomes trying to scramble
out of the pocket, you cansend that second level defenders say go hit
him, Yeah, go eat.You have the option of doing different things
like running a spy. You havethe option of doing different things like a
mush rush or contained because you havethe ability to get home with those kinds
of things. The Broncos just didnot have the ability to get home with
those things. And once again,we're not saying don't take a quarterback.

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We don't hate quarterbacks on the Broncoscountry tonight. No. All we're trying
to say is if you go getone, then you build around him,
and if Jared Stenham is your guyfor right now, you give him help
and you give him defensive help.I think the best way for me to
phrase this is if you want thequarterback, cool, I'm here for that.

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Just don't sell out the team toget the quarterback. Does that make
sense? Like, so this tome, don't sell the team out,
because, as I talked about onthe show last night, like we're losing
games at this point nineteen to sixteen, you know, stuff like that over
the last couple of years. What'sthe difference in losing nineteen sixteen than losing
games the way we're going to belosing If you got the team, got
the draft picks, you got thequarter right, Okay, we're putting up
we're putting up twenty one points agame now, and now we're losing every

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game like we did in Miami becausewe got no defense, no nothing to
be able to replace them at all. Now, so now we're losing fifty
to thirty. Okay, there's morepoints, But is that really better?
No, it's not. And itmay sound biased because I'm a defensive player,
but I know how this game isplayed. I know what offensive teams
want to do. Well. Moreimportantly, the idea is how to neutralize

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those individuals and give your offense anopportunity. I would say that if you
want an example of what that whathappens is when you catch the quarterback there,
but then you got the team andeverything, and then you don't have
a defense. Look at the KansasCity Chiefs and the Trent Green era.
I'd've given anything for a defense.They were scoring points left and right.
They couldn't it couldn't do anything inthe playoffs. They get it, get

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to the playoff, they couldn't doanything there. See, I said,
I put this out on social mediaearly today. You can follow me at
Nick ferguson unscored twenty five. Isaid, a quarterback without a support system
is like an individual being out inthe middle of the ocean without a life
preserver. That that's kind of thecomp for me. When you think about

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a quarterback, you need support aroundyou. Well, what better support than
having maybe another corner opposite passer tento help out the pass rush. If
you don't go get a guy,or go and get in the rush guy.
Maybe two right early and later thatcan compliment one another, like von
did DeMarcus wear and offset this thingand set it off. Well, we've

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had a comparison before, We've hada metaphor before the work. It's like
having that Lamborghini with the Honda engine. You know what I mean. It
looks out the shell, it looksgreat, it looks pretty. You can
wax it up. Well, itlooks pretty. Yeah, you know it's
flashy, catch some eyes, butcome on, let's be honest, it's
gonna lose the performance. But whenyou roll up against another you know,
Lamborghini Honda, just sounds like it'slike, with all the respect the christ

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the three hundred next to rolls.Yeah. The people that were talking about
the Prist three hundred looking like aBetley when I was like, no,
it doesn't you like Bentley. That'swhat it's like. Man, looks like
a Betley. The people have neverseen a Betley. Yes, yes,
I'm just saying, yeah, thatis funny. By the way, I

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was talking about Zach Zack Allen beinga spirit penetrator and there there's several people
wanted to know about the quality ofZach's penetration. Look, Zach is gonna
penetrate. He's gonna pound it intheir hard. It doesn't matter if you
double team him or not. He'sabsolutely gonna gonna put it in there.
The idea for me then, isthat that one and tell your mom it's
a player where you feel the dumbleteam coming on both shoulders. The idea

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is stay within that double team andpress to make sure there is a running
back. You're going to make him. Try to bowl around him, he's
gonna lose ground. So even ifyou don't defeat the double team, you
have to the structure of the play. Yes, you have to alter the
structure of the play. But rightnow, it's about the number of impact
players. If we weren't to gotake the Broncos roster and compared to anyone

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else's roster and say, okay,well, what's the number of impact players?
Perfect questions? So right where Iwas going with this. Al Al
asked me this question before I cameon the Kiowi Sports show this afternoon to
show me the money. How manybricks? Then, Broncos have, how
many bricks? How many players youbuild around? How many impact players do
they have? Are you damn Mason? I mean maybe I don't know,

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brick. This is like he's saying, how many things you get to build
around? Right? And it's agood question because at the end of the
day, I'm like, well,what four maybe? How many? How
many impact players right now? Dothey have minitos? Are tanners? I
said Marvin Mims, Well that wasmy I was working maybe and Mims maybe

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no, no, no, no, there's no Maybe with Man's I don't
know what he is as a receiveryet we've seen flashes. I know he's
a returner. You can't really buildaround in turn unless he's Stevin Hester.
But you know what I mean,Like I'm just saying like it's it's Marvin
Mims would be I would put himin that camp. But I'm saying I'm
leaning that way, but he's notthere yet. Well I don't know by
so where you leaning, I'm alreadysticking him in that camp on what he's

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able. So you got four,he got four unless you got another one
beyond that? Is there another impactplayer? Do the Broncos have another impact
player? You know, A partof me wants to throw Alex Singleson in
there because he may not seem tobe the impact player when you look at
the linebacker position, But that dudeman is always around the ball. He

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got a nose for it. Yeah, there's There was a couple of games
I didn't like the way that hetackled some some run fits, but he
always but he always wound up makingthe tackle. I get it, it
happens to you as a player,But for me, there was more pros
to Alex Singleton than come. I'llsay that, but there's several guys I
can say that. But you know, if I was going, like the

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next guy like probably probably Zach Allen'sprobably the next guy on that list if
I start running down the list ofyou know, because it used to be
Justin Simmons, he's not here anymore. Man. That still hurts every day
and I get tired. You wantto get tired of as I get tired
of the same question I get onTwitter all the time. So Justin Simmons
there's no market. Oh, bro, he's got plenty of options. He's

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waiting for the draft. You knowwhat way you could go sign to a
team right now, wait till afterthe draft of the dust settles and it's
whoever missed out on safety you maximizeyour market. Yeah, that's something that
we're definitely get into. Uh atsome point, I think that needs some
discussion. But right now, therethere are not a lot of players currently
on the Broncos roster that we cansay are impact players. And to have

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any discussion about getting that last seedin the playoffs, you're gonna need multiple
impact players. I think there wasan interesting comment from George Payton in that
presser where he talked about it ifit changes the landscape of what you're doing,
like a quarterback who changes the landscapeof what you're doing specifically, And
I think that is the litmus testthat we need to hold up if we're

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saying we want to get a quarterback. Just trading everything for JJ McCarthy changed
the landscape of this football team,because I don't believe the answer to that
is yes. I don't believe thatadding JJ McCarthy as with this roster turns
this team into a contender for theperennial division winner, super Bowl contender.

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So I don't believe it changes thelandscape. It just gives you. It
just quinches that first of being ableto say that, hey, the Broncos
now have a first round quarterback,but the Broncos have found themselves in that
situation before. Yeah. Right.And not that I'm trying to say JJ
McCarthy's packs and Lynch, but everybodybelieve packs and Lynch was going to be

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the next big thing when they draftedhim. They did puff see the tweets
I remember, But that's this,that's the belief just because you take a
quarterback in the first round that makesthat team potentially a super Bowl contender,
and that player perennial Pro bowler.Everybody believes it's every draft pick is going

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to be the next star. Justask every fan of every team. I
can tell you that's not true.Well, I'm being hyperbolic. By the
way, the textline made a goodpoint. Ja Quon McMillan. Yeah,
I would put him as the nextguy. That's five. Yeah, that's
five. That's five. So butI mean, you know, you're talking
about a fifty three meters roster I'mtalking which would talk about less than ten
percent of players being impact players.That ain't That ain't the formula for winning

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a Super Bowl. This is whyyou move back the NFL six packs next.
Yeah, I would just say,if it's a player you think can
change the landscape of your organization movingforward, like a quarterback, then you
do whatever you take to get them. Welcome back to it, Broncos Country
tonight. Benjamin Albrighten, Nick Ferguson, Grant Smith here with you. I
don't even know what I just adjustedthe microphone and relatively and literally off the

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stand. This is happening in realtime. Grats, just looking at me
like, what did you do?I wonder is it? Is it the
pizza, because before you ate thepizza, you know you were looking a
little you know, weak, andyou know, not yourself. Then all
of a sudden, he takes acouple of bytes off the pizza and now
he is a pot pot is sellingman, just ripping the mic off the

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hinges. Look, you wouldn't likeme when I'm hungry. Basically is it
a reverse like when I get lesshungry? I turned into the Hulk and
then start ripping equipment apart that chickenand onion pizzas man still slaps. I'm
telling it does so good getting pepperonichicken, chicken, red onion and basil
pizza? Does it? Slaps?Like everybody makes fun of me until they
try it, Then they're on board. So you know what, I'm gonna

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try it mentally right I'm taking aslice right right now, mentally because I'm
trying to cut down on my carbintake. Yeah, I quit carbs,
you know, back in January.But the I'm gonna tell the makeup sex
has been phenomenal. It's time forthe NFL sick Pat. I'm gonna take
the last year in insight information youcan't find anywhere else. No the top

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six NFL headline. What Sean Patonsays, It looks like we need to
draft a quarterback, but it hasto be the right fit. Rouncles obviously
picking twelve in the first round ofnext week's draft. All of the talk
here in Denver has been on thequarterback position. Sean Bateen agreed the makeup
of the roster leaves the position asa clear need for both He and George

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Payton stressed the need to answer thequestion correctly rather than just providing an answer.
Sean Payton said, quote, yousay, it sure looks like we
have to draft a quarterback, andyet it's got to be the right fit,
the right one. If we hadtip sheets as to what everybody else
was picking, it would be easierto answer that question. So that's a
puzzle here. George Payton said,you don't want to, but you don't
want to do is force it?Otherwise we'll be in this position next year,

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the year's after. You don't getthe right player at twelve our first
pick. And notice he said rightplayer at twelve our first pick, we've
got to hit on whether it's aquarterback, whether it's a tackle, receiver,
you name it. We need toget an impact player. But that
is true. This does not soundlike the language of people trading up desperately
to get a quarterback. No,listen, both Peyton's George Payton, Sean

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Payton. They know what's at stakehere. I mean, you can't no
longer put duct tape on this thingand think that you're going to sell to
the playoffs. Promise Land, youhave to start hitting on some of these
picks. Now they moved on fromJerry Judy, and there's a lot to
unpact. There's why that it happened. But you don't want to draft any
more players in the first round.Can those players go unproductive? You need

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guys that come in who can makean instant impact right now in year one,
and if not, you load upwith guys who will help you out
in year two. But this isa very important draft for the Denver Broncos
to get correct. That absolutely istrue impact players. Broncos wide receiver Courtland
Sun is not participating the team's voluntaryoffseason program Sotton has two years left on

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a four year your sixty million dollarextension that he signed in November of twenty
twenty one and wants a new extension. He has only two million dollars of
guaranteed money left in the twenty sevenpoint six million total remaining money. Roccos
though not sweating Sutton's absence from theoff season program, General manager George Peyton
said Thursday, when he was asked, he said it's one hundred percent voluntary.

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He said, it's the first weekof the off season program. Sean
Payton has talked to Courtland. I'vetalked to Courtland. He's in a good
place. We'll just leave it atthat. He was asked by Parker Gabriel
of the Denver pulsed, how dowe feel about the situation with Courtland Sutton?
Why so serious? Maybe a jokernow, because I feel like if
anybody's on this show is the joker? Well, well mean, yes,

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he could be the joker in acouple of accounts. And you are a
Robin. I'm not rob I'm notrobbing, yes, But the whole idea
is that, man, let's nottake this too serious. It's the beginning
of voluntary workout. If this waskind of like mandatory OTAs or something,
like this after the draft, thenthis cause would concern and I'm sure,

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I mean, both sides know what'sgoing on at this particular moment, so
it's not a problem. Robin,I hate you, and I refuse to
respond with and get and dignify thatwith a response free. The Troit Lions
unveiled new uniforms for twenty twenty four. Everything Old is New again. The
Lions began working on new uniforms backduring the twenty twenty two offseason. They

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working Nike to adopt a Richard toneof Honolu blue markening back to the lions
early nineteen nineties look true silver alsoback in the uniform, which has various
outlines and stripe elements, as wellas the team's traditional pan. Don't know
if you've seen the uniform or not. They've got a like a blue helmet
with black stripes running down the middle. The black uniform is pretty cold.
It looks a little a little Carolinapanthers e to me, but otherwise it's

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a pretty cold looking uniform. Ithink it looks sweet. Look man,
ab my new favorite uniform in theNFL. Yeah, anytime you throw dark
colors into what teams already have italready takes it up a not and once
again, the Detroit Alliance definitely needit a boost because over the past couple
of years, man, they haveshot so many people. So let's just

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see at the end of the day, how a lot of these teams where
they come up with these new uniforms, what they really look like. Yeah,
I've taken a peek at the Broncosuniform. I'm not the world's biggest
fan, but then again, mytaste in close, I think everybody knows,
and so I wouldn't trust my adviceon that anyway. No responsible,
Okay, that's right for Brad Holmeson not taking the all in approach,

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saying we are seeking sustained success.Lions came close to the Super Bowl in
twenty twenty three as they ever have, will a big lead to the Niners
the NFC Championship game, and ofcourse they're among twelve teams to never have
won a Super Bowl. Allion's heand Brad Holmes doesn't want to hear about
a quote super Bowl window. Theywant it has to staying success as the
Patriots did and the Chiefs are doing, rather than going all in for one

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title like the Rams did back intwenty twenty one, s quote, I
understand the question because you're like,Okay, all right, the rosters at
a certain point, the guys shouldbe contenders heading into the season. So
how do you operate this way?And that's why Dave Burkett of the Detroit
Free Press, but he said,quote, but again, I just think
if we just keep improving every singleyear through doing it through our process,
that's what we've been doing. That'swhat we'll continue to do. And I

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think when you start getting into well, we've got this window, that's when
I think you get into a littlebit of trouble. Allion's built through the
draft with Petty Sewell on the offensiveline, a receiver I'm on Bress,
Sat Brown, edge rush Rated Hutchinson, tackle Y McNeil, Jimi or Gibbs,
the running back Titan san Laporta,et cetera. Quarterback Jerreed Goff obviously
obtained in trade with the Rams intwenty twenty one, and the Lions added

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defensive back Carlton Davis, defensive tackleDJ Reader at offensive guard Kevin Zeitler this
offseason. They have the twenty ninthpick in the draft and Homestead. It's
important the team stick to the sameprocess and conceded the Lions could trade out
of the first round, saying jokinglythat he hopes fans will forgive them if
they do. Interesting comment, though, suggesting that he doesn't want to push
all in on something at all.He wants to continue to do the same
process that has gotten them there andcontinue to build out through that. Yeah,

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it's like a great relationship with agreat marriage. Whatever you did to
attract that person and make that persondecide to marry, you want to continue
to do that. But you stillwant to take things up a notch.
And Brad Holmes did a great jobin building this team out and the team
was really competitive. Like no onethought that he would go out and get

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Jamiro Gibbs when he did. Butthat is, I guess a risk of
some may call it that that actuallypaid off. So you stick to your
guns and what got you to thatpoint, or like my father would say,
you dance with the one you brought. Trust the process. Yes,
five aris Alta Cardinals are going tohave a popcorn ready for what goes on

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before them in the first round.Not a lot will be going on before
them in the first rounds. Andsay on the fourth pick, but Cardinals
general manager to austin Ford said thatcalls were starting to pick up from teams
that might be interested in trading forthe fourth overall pick, and one imagines
the phones will continue to ring printysteadily leading up in the last week.
Here a number of quarterbacks expected todraw interest at the top of the draft.

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Obviously, the Cardinals are set withKyler Murray, but teams that might
be calling to look up include theGiants, Vikings, Raiders, and possibly
the Denver Broncos. Some of thatinterest may be predicated on what the Bears,
Commanders, and Patriots wind up doingwith those three picks. Austin Ford
said he's prepared to listen to offfirst to the pick, right down to
the wire, saying quotes the wayI look at it, I love my
house, I love where I live, my wife loves where I live.

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But if all of a sudden,I'm at my door and someone's gonna offer
me something, I'm gonna look backand see what they're offering me. I
open that up and it's not somethingI'm not expected. I'm like, hey,
Shannon, it's sound to pack upand roll. Shannon of course,
being money os sports wife. Sothat happens beforehand, it happens on the
clock. But I think different teamshave different motivations. We'll see how that
plays out. The Cardinals traded downfrom three to twelve last year and twenty
twenty four first rounder from Houston inthe process. They then moved back up

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from twelve to six to draft ParisJohnson. The office to tackle holding on
to that extra first So be interestingto see if the Cardinals move up and
down on the board in this draft. You know, that's an interesting take
that I never thought about until now. Like we know there's a lot of
reason why GM and coaches make certainmoves when it comes to draft picks.
How about making it based on doI love my wife or I want to

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keep my job? Right, Like, if I make a bad pick here,
that means that we're gonna have tomove. So maybe that were prompt
guys to make more logical decisions,to know that this could not only cause
me my job, but we couldbe moving and this could cause my marriage.
I mean maybe, you know,I think in this particular case,
the metaphor was more about somebody comingto try and buy his house that he

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hadn't thought about selling, but still, uh yeah. I mean you should
look at everything through the lens ofUSNA, not just mine either, my
kid's school, all that. KushZack I didn't even get to finish his
basement, didn't even get a chanceto finish it. Six quarterback Trevor Lawrence
till reporters there's been some conversations betweenhis representation the Jags about a potential contract

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extension. Today, general manager TrentBalky noted that the talks are ongoing between
the two sides. Say, quote, you try not to force anything we
got. We've had some great talks, great conversations. I spoke with his
agency last night working but you can'tforce this stuff. That was preceded by
Trent Balkey forcing one out on liveTV passing gas in the middle of a
press conference that was loudly recorded bymultiple media houses. Sorry, I had

(27:30):
to get this story. We're workingat it, We'll continue to work at
it. Ownerships involved, obviously,coaches involved. I'm gonna put a best
foot forward, hope to get somethingaccomplished here. Jacksonville will obviously pick up
the fifth year option to get thatdone. With Trevor Lawrence. But Trent
Balky flatulating on live television while talkingabout a contract extension was probably the weirdest

(27:53):
presser moment today. Well gives awhole meaning to uh blowing hot air,
right, you have to say,and as though it said it is better
out than and and this is asituation that's better at out or better end
and out is Trevor Lawrence and beingable to give him a new deal.
Because when you look at Trevor Lawrenceand the year he was drafted, there

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are not too many of those quarterbackswho remain on the same team. Mac
Jones, if I'm not mistaken,was in that same draft class and now
he is a teammate of Trevor Lawrenceand now he's the backup. So Trevor
has done a phenomenal job with whathe had. The only thing I'm disappointed
that Trent Bulky didn't do. Hedidn't keep Calvin Ridley in the fold and

(28:37):
bringing in Gabriel as maybe wide receiverone. I don't think that's a great
idea either. Kind of tips meoff they might be going receiver in the
draft. Maybe is able to getthere or at was it picked twenty one
to pick an eye. I don'tknow, but I did. If once
again, Bill tallon around your quarterbackand you're prosper Yeah, you have an
opportunity. There you go, that'syour N four six. I want to

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get into a discussion that you andI were having during the break. A
lot of talk going around about thesalary that Caitlin Clark is drawing at the
WNBA. It's in the seventy thousanddollars range for the season. And I
posted something on Twitter because I sawa lot of people talking about this,
and I don't think people out therethere, well, she deserves more the

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number one pick in the NBA draft. You know, Webby's twenty million for
the year. And I'm like,well, well, first of all,
deserves carrying a lot of water there. Deserves is a tricky word, do
I. I'm all for women beingpaid more. I'm all for women in
the WNBA being paid more. Butthe reality is that the WNBA hemorrhages money.

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It loses money. Oh it's somethinglike twenty five percent of it it's
revenue, which is only fifty milliondollars I believe is subsidized by the NBA,
which makes in the tens of billionsof dollars in revenue per year.
Basically, the WNBA does point doessix tenths of one percent of the revenue
of the NBA. They also playhalf the schedule, right, they play

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thirty something games, thirty eight games, I think, versus eighty two in
the NBA. If you take therevenue, divide that and use that proportionally,
and then divide that out by thenumber of games that they play.
Kempric Cark is making roughly what sheshould be making. Well. The WNBA,
their income is about sixty million dollars. They play forty games. They

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only have twelve teams. So whenyou look at the NBA that's been established
for for a while, they haveTV revenue, they have more teams,
and here's the bigger thing, it'sthe venues that you're playing. Grant sent
me something that talked about when theIndiana Fever plays against the team in Vegas,

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the Aces, they have to movethat to a much larger venue because
it normally holds twelve. Now theytrying to move to twenty at twenty two.
Right, and the Indiana Fever isa WNBA basketball team, and in
fact, even aerial disease being passedaround with Patrick Blue groupies. Right,
it's not. And here's some ofthe things I think people need to take
into consideration. I would like forthem to take into consideration. Here's the

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issue that you run into. Yourun into only having twelve teams. That
is a problem. You only playforty games. So the revenue that the
NBA generates by every game that's beingplayed, and we've seen that the NBA
change a lot of the rules,requiring a lot of guys to play.
None of this thing of sitting outbecause you lose out on postseason awards.

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But also the bigger thing is howthe star power. Maybe they can generate
some movement based on Kidler Clark,Angela Reis and a lot of these women
coming in from the WNBA. Butfor me, you got to use that
WWE philosophy, and if I seeit all the time, you need heroes

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and you need villains, right,Yeah, So Angela res is the same
with every sport. Yeah, SoAngela Reese is a villain to Kaitlin Clark.
So when those two teams play,guess what, that's big dollars right
there. And maybe that's the rivalrythat sparks the attention in the WNBA,
they gets it to the broadcast becausethat's to be honest. If you want
women to be paid more than theWNBA, go watch their games on TV

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because at the end of the day, broadcast right revenue is what is going
to get those people paid more,which you only could build the broadcast revenue.
Ben if you have more teams rightnow you only have twelve. Well,
yeah, you need the ratings,but you need you do need all
that, You need a larger league, you need all that kind of stuff,
but you need ratings, You needpeople watching it interest. You need

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verifiable interest so that people will buythe broadcast rights at exorbitant rates and that
people advertise on that and so thatthat's my solution. Like if you want
them to getai more, start watchingtheir games, quit telling me on Twitter
that they need to get paid moremoney and do the very free thing that
you can do and support it.Or if you really want to put some
buy some merch at a time.You know how many times how many times

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have you seen somebody rolling around ina WA NBA logoed merchandise? Because I
count I cannot remember. I thinkI saw somebody with the LAS Vegas Ace's
shirt one time, one time.So if those are the way to do,
you don't have to get on Twitterversus signal. You can just you
know, there are real things youcan do, and you know at the

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end of the day that the marketwill dictate whether or not they get paid
more by the attention that they get. I hope that that that they're able
to develop a hero villain narrative similarto Magic and Bird. You know that
rivalry you need that. I'm totallywith you. But if I am the
I guess commissioner of the w nb A, I am not promoting that,

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but I'm going to encourage. Rightif there was a college rival that
you now playing against in a ina w n b A, let's talk
that up. Let's see more trashtalking about the guests. It's gotten to
a point where we see our daughters, our sisters, and we see women
in a certain way, but wedon't like to see him in that way
where they're dominant and they're talking trash. No, no, no, I

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want to see that, because thebest production comes out when you're talking trash
to your opponent. By the way, Kaitlyn Clark just signed a deal with
Nike today that is supposed to beupwards of twenty million dollars for her signature
shoe. So I think she'll bedoing okay. Yeah, I mean you
know she's fine. The salary isn'twhere. What he's to do with the
endorsement deals are? We got RyanLeaf when we come back Broncos Country Night.

(34:27):
Kwa. So got a couple ofdays going through coaching. I haven't
sat down and go, excuse megoing through the final board yet