04-29-24 Tim Jenkins with Broncos Country Tonight

Episode Transcript

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I'm gonna go right on out tothe kwait Coms Spiral hotline and bring on

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the QB Whisperer. Former NFL quarterback, Pride of thunder Ridge and promiser of
merchandise, Tim Jenkins. Tim,how you doing, buddy? I'm doing
great. I'm doing great. Howare you guys doing? Doing pretty well?
Saw some photos of the what isit the remodel going on there?
Yeah, we got an absolute grindof it. It's a grind where you're
in. You know, there's acouple of memes on Instagram where it's like

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Drake cry and saying he's got awarrior spirit in the middle of RELs.
That'll be my wife feel like.But no, it's it's good. It's
good. We're pumped up. Andthen you know, we have a little
seven year old baseball game tonight thatran a little late, but the Raptors
pulled it out thirteen to twelve.So exciting stuff all the way around.
Love it you guys. Putting thenew film room in the house. Is
that that's what the impetus behind theremodel is. Yeah, that's that's the

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real the real heart of it is. Uh, you know a little bit
of thin brick for the wife andthen a film room for the boys.
I love it well, Tam.We got a quarterback, Man bow Nick's
quarterback in Oregon the Broncos draft inthe first round, twelfth overall pick,
drafted just just slightly ahead of whereyou were taking, you know, in
the NFL draft, and so Uyou know, first I got to ask,

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you know what that moment is likeas a young I'm bested with you,
man, how did you how didyou like the Bonnicks pick? Yeah,
just a little bit, just alittle bit in front of me,
just like seven thousand picks. Butno, I think, yeah, so
one, I'm not gonna lie.I was shocked, right, I wasn't
even watching the draft. I figured, hey, I'm going to catch up.
And then all of a sudden,it's like a QB friend Frenzy up

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front and then Boonick's at twelve.I think, I mean, I don't
know, I mean, I didn'treally expect that to happen. But you
know, I know you had textedMario about it. You're you're dialed then
I'm not, you know, onthe outside looking in. So I think,
listen, I turned on his tape. What I'll tell you is this
is I did a breakdown on himand kind of how I think he fits

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with the Broncos, and I didthe same on Caleb Williams. What I
will tell you is bo Nick doesn'tnot have a lot of turnover worthy place
like you watch his film and froma risky with the football perspective, it's
pretty boring, right, Like there'snot a lot of high risk throws,
Like he's not putting the ball inharm's way, which I think a lot

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of that is probably what Sean Paytonfell in love with after dealing with what
he dealt with this year. Notsaying, you know, not a dig
at Russ, but I do thinkwe're putting the ball in harms way a
little bit. So to me,it's like, I think you see why
he fell in love with his tape. Obviously you don't see the kind of
crazy armability. But if you reallythink back of what Shawn's made successful in

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this league, you know, nobodysits there and goes you know who I
think had the greatest arm tilt ofall time as Drew Brees. Right,
That's not what people say about him. People say a lot of other stuff
which I'm guessing is kind of whatthey were getting the feeling of when they
were at the organ facility talking aboutbo Nick. So to me, I
think it makes a lot of sense. I think my only hesitation is how
early you got to put the kidout there? Right? It doesn't seem

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like our quarterback room is super deepand super geared towards giving him time,
which I think is kind of themore interesting story is how this whole thing
plays out throughout the preseason and thengoing into Week one of the season.
Well, Tim, it is goodto have you back on the program.
Before I get into my football question, I do have to ask, where's

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the Tim Jenkins Elite gear that Iknow I think Bend promised us. Where
is that? There's no doubt I'mbehind on that. I listen, the
guy that we really got to feelabout, you know, I'm going to
get you guys here. You knowthat the guy that we really got to
feel bad for is Grant. Imean this, you can see the tech.
It's like, I'm like one hundredand eighty unread textief right now.

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And then every time I like lookat I see it from Grant and I'm
like, oh shoot, it's likemy real issue though, honestly, is
the Apple Watch. I don't knowif you guys have him, but it's
like what happens is I look atit on my watch and I respond in
my head and what I just neverActually, I'm like, I'm like Grant,
It's like one of my favorite guysactually deal with too, because you

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guys know what it's like and theindustry some people are like real hard to
work with the best, and I'mlike ghost in him. So, yeah,
the real guy, I gotta makeup to his great I gotta take
him. I'm hoping him the houseis done, I can have over and
just like I'm hoping we can goenough like brecking Ridge Brews deep to where
he forgets all these texts he sentme. But yeah, no, I

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got to get you guys some gear. I gotta get, you know,
a great a reasonable response time.I'm just kind of failing the all fronts
right now. Hey, all good, Tim, I'll just cost you a
Jenkins's Elite hat and a couple ofBroncos palaoffs talking with Tim Jenkins qub whispered
Jackens Elite. All right, Tim, So when we look at the fact

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that the Broncos now have a stackedquarterback room and two of those guys are
very young. And Zach Wilson,who people have said some negative things about
in his Jets days, and youlook at bow Knicks coming in. Are
these two quarterbacks right now? AndI know they don't know the system,

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but just looking at what they didpreviously, Oh, who stands to have
the advantage. Is it Zach Wilsonor is it bow Knicks. Yeah,
if we're talking Zach Wilson out ofcollege, I probably would have told you
Zach Wilson, because I think outof college I would have bet his ceiling
was a little bit higher. Afterseeing him in the league and seeing some
things not shake his way. Partof you thinks bo Nicks because you know

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what, we all like hate talkingabout this, but scar tissue isn't always
great scar tissue, right, Like, you can have bad scar tissue on
you going into it. And notto say that Zach can't overcome it.
I just think there are some thingsthat crept up on him when he was
a rookie, his second is thirdyear in the league, and then all

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of a sudden, it just doesn'tseem like he's a wrecked mesh with kind
of what I think Sean wants froma quarterback. So I tell you,
I think bon Nick simultaneously years inthe league are going to help you learn
a system. Right. We allknow they run the same stuff. It's
not like coach Payton stuff is completelydifferent than what he had in New York,
Right, it's going to be it'sgonna be all the same concept.

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We're just gonna call him a differentthing. So Zach's gonna have the leg
up when it comes to learning toplaybook because he's been around the pro game
longer. With that being said,I think we sometimes, I think on
the outside, we undervalue how muchit means to be someone's guy, right,
And anyone who's been around Sean Paytonfor a millisecond of time, though,

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the dude is hyper competitive. SoSean Payton is not going to let
bon Nicks look like a bad draftpick, right, He's going to make
sure. I mean, this isthe same guy that made you know,
Taysom Hill an NFL quarterback, Right, Like you call spade a spade,
Taysom Hill doesn't belong in the leagueas a quarterback, and somehow he's carved
out a you know, almost aslike Sean Payton's like middle finger to everybody

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of like, oh, I'm gonnamake this guy even quarterback, right,
Like that's you know, he's ahyper competitive guy. So to me,
it's like with bo Nix being hisguy, I think, you know,
all roads kind of lead to himeventually taking over. I think the interesting
thing is going to be how they'regoing to play it out, because part
of me thinks, hey, youroll in with Zach or Sidham or whoever,

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right, and then you kind oflet them, you know, play
right, and then you you turnit over to Bow. But then the
other side of me is like,if you're going to get to Bow,
there's so few reps to begin withnow in training camp in the preseason,
and it's like you hate to wastethem, not on the on the young
kid. So it's like that's whereI think this it's going to be really

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interesting. I think that first Broncostraining camp to kind of see that first
practice, Hey, what do thereps look like, how are they dividing
them, what are they trying todo? You know, they'll get a
good gauge of how fast Bow canactually pick everything up at rookie Minnie Camp
and then from there it's probably youknow how fast he can act with me
as how fast he's going to getin talk with Tim Jenkins Jenkins the league
Tim, I know that sort ofoverlaps. I guess a bit with the

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next question that I want to ask, because this, is there a real
chance here for Zach Wilson because youknow le Bronks are going to decline that
fifth year option. Honestly, there'sno reason to keep him a round.
Does he have a chance as areclamation project? Or do you lean more
towards Jared Stidham as the veteran who'sbetter out of the league in a mentorship
role in a scenario where you're probablyonly keeping to maybe Sean Payton does throw
up a finger and and keeps threequarterbacks, But it feels like that the

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odds are more in the favor ofkeeping two. Is is that's the way
rosters are constructed these days? Isthere a real shot for Zach Wilson or
is this a guy that's just goingto get lost in the wash? Yeah,
we really do need to bring thatthird quarterback though, because I'm thinking
there's a couple of teams I couldkind of latch on too late as coming
back coach their quarterback. So Ithink we should kind of start that campaign
to bring the third QB back.But no, I think listen, to

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be honest with you, I thinkyou're dead on about I think he gets
lost in the wash. I thinkI get just if they didn't take Bonix
at twelve and we were talking thisweek, I think there'd be a huge
conversation around you know, is ZachWilson that kid that you can throw in
and potentially have yourself like a RyanPanahill in Miami right or or Tennessee right
where it's you know, hey,they didn't work out your first stop,

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you get a little bit of scartissue, you move on, you you
kind of resurrect your career. CouldI see something like that happening for Zack
Wilson? Sure in the current environmentnow, Like it's so hard for me
to see a world in which ZackWilson is the better two right, It's
just like it doesn't seem like itseems like he could be the two like

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he was in New York, whereit's like the guy in front of you,
no one is going to talk aboutbenching right. No one was talking
about Aaron Rodgers not playing, Sothen you can have a guy like Zack
Wilson as the two. When youhave a young quarterback or rookie quarterback,
to me, that's when it's reallyhard to have a guy like Zach Wilson

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in here too, because it's almostlike you create this competition inside the locker
room, whereas Jared Stidham there's notgoing to be that same competition inside the
locker room. That's not a knockagainst him, it's just the reality of
their you know, perceived ceilings mayberight or floors or kind of whatever you
want to call it. So tome, it's, yeah, I think

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he gets lost in the wash.I think it's just unfortunately bad timing for
the kid. I think, youknow, they go grab boonicks at twelve,
all of a sudden, the kindof writing's on the wall, they
go a different position, or theytrade back or anything like that. Then
I think, you know, heprobably has a shot, but I just
think unfortunately he'll get lost in thewash. I do think he's one of
those guys that it's gonna be.He's someone I want to keep my eye

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on because I don't think he's necessarilydone in the NFL. I do think
he's gonna have to find that rightshot to where he can either fit for
a little bit or he can kindof get plugged in where he doesn't have
to, you know, feel like, hey, I've got to go make
every single throw on playing Earth.But yeah, I just think it's going
to be tough for him to kindof crack into the line up here.
How difficult is it really for aquarterback who played in somewhat of a different

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system being able to quickly learn theverbiage of a new system, Because in
my time playing for Mike Shanahan,they used to have these elongated plays that
seem like they took like forever forthe quarterback to be able to disseminate it
to everyone in a huddle. Sohow difficult is it going to be for

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a Zach Wilson or bow Nicks tobe able to master that language of a
Sean Payton play. Yeah, Ithink Zach will haven't left right just because
of the years in the league.But I think bo it's a real thing.
I think nowadays it's almost you know, the harder. You know.
I jokingly say this, but It'slike when you're doing draft prep with some
of these college kids, it's almostlike you need to spend half your days

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on just being in the huddle,right, because you know what it's like,
Nigga, It's not enough to justsay, you know, hey,
twins right, gun scot right,Hey F ship X, comeback Z posts
right. That's not enough, liketo just spit it out. You need
to look at your X right,hey X, comeback F ship, and
then look at your Z right,hey Z on the post. Because you
know how it is. Half therookies in there they have no idea how

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they actively the damn Z right.They don't know right, So it's like
you got to remind them too bylooking at them and making sure they know,
hey, we're gonna jump the tigerright here. You're the jump guy,
right, You got to remind themin the huddle. I think a
lot of times we take for grantthat aspect. Right. We see them
play on Saturdays and we think,oh, hey, you know you're gonna
see those kind of skill sets showup. But shoot, if your eyes

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aren't in the right spot, andif you can't command a huddle, it's
hard to even get to the physicalaspect of it. You know, I
joke with our quarterbacks all the time, like the only reason I got to
smith the NFL was because of themental side of it, Right. I
was the opposite of most rookies.Most rookies, you hope they survived to
where their physical stuff shows up.Man, I'd get us lined up,
get us in the right look,but I'd hit the will linebacker in the

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chest. Right. That's the differencething to me and all these other guys.
You know, I think you knowthat's gonna be the biggest hurdle is
Hey, can he can he fitthe verbage out? Can he you know,
can he can he handle the huddle? Can he get out? Those
are the kind of things that he'sgoing to have, you know, hopefully
he's been working on for the lasttwelve weeks. Right, That's what you
kind of hope for in a draftprep when you have a kid who physically

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is probably gonna check out his filmchecks out. Hopefully they've been talking through.
Hey, here's how a you know, typical NFL playbook structure. Here's
what you're gonna see. It's goingto be you know, formation, motion
or shift then formation. So hopefullythey've been talking through all that. If
not, I think Sean will gethim caught up. But it's really it's
tough nowadays. Man, you reallygot to hit the ground running in rookie
camp. And I think you know, from everything you hear both say at

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the podium, and and you thinkhe's a kid who's probably prepped, right.
He says all the right things.He he kind of carries himself the
right way, so you would thinkhe's probably got it. He's probably you
know, going to be ahead ofthe game there. But you just never
know until that first playbook install,on that first walkthrough, and hey,
did we get to blitz adjustment?Did we move the mic? Those are
all the kind of things that thatshow up at that first practice, and

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we all like to say, man, it's the developmental League. It's just
not anymore. And I think,uh, he's got to kind of hit
the ground running, and I thinkSean will will We'll make sure he uh
has the best shot at it ofanybody till we uh, we always appreciate
it. It always goes too fast, and except when you're you know,
responding to grant, but otherwise italways goes too fast. Look forward to

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chat with you again here real soon. I appreciate you guys. Thank you
so much. Absolute brother. Takecare, Tim Jenkins Jenkins Elite