05-02-24 Hour 2 of Broncos Country Tonight

Episode Transcript

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Welcome to it Broncos Country Tonight,but with all bright, Nick Ferguson,
Grant Smith, those of you wholisten to our two part interview with Executive
VP of Football Operations Troy Vincent.That will be up at Broncos Country Night
dot Com slash podcast here sooner whereveryou get your podcasts Apple, iTunes,
Spotify, the Totally Free and alsomy Heart Radio app, or you can

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get to Take It for Granted podcastas well. I believe you have a
new episode coming out. I do. I dropped a new episode this week.
A lot of people in Denver radiowill know him well, Scott DeHoff
from one of our former competitors.Yeah, we talked a lot about his
time in radio. But he hasa new podcast he started a couple of
years ago called de Huff Uncensored.Yeah, it's freaking hilarious. And yeah,

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he's really good and it was agreat conversation. He's absolutely good.
Listen and yeah. So I havenot listened to that episode of the Take
It for Granted podcast yet, butit is on my to do list after
Wrong One, after I finish Obasusally watching Fallout and then apparently now I
have to watch Shogun. Now forNick, well, listen man. Gret

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and I talked about this before becauseI know he watches certain programs with his
wife, and I encourage whether youare just dating for the first time of
fiance girlfriend, look, do thesame things that intrigue your significant other.
Man. They would bring you guysclose together. And I know Showgun doesn't
sound like the show that should bringcouples together, but it's something that my

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wife and I watch and it's avery intriguing show. Now, I have
to tell you, if you don'tlike to read dialogue, this is not
for you because you're gonna have tobe able to follow the action and read
the subtitles on the screen. Butit is a great movie, a great
series to watch. I put subtitleson every show I watch anyway. I

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don't mean yeah, I don't Ilove it. I mean I don't mind
reading subtitles if they're there, butI don't want them clutter up the screen
if i'm unless that's sports, Ihave the subtitles on. Really yep,
that was something my wife transitioned tome over to in case you missed a
piece of dialogue or something. Yeah, and there's so many like little silent
things, especially in some of themovies we watch that you don't even hear,

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but when the subtitles come on,you're like, oh, that's what
they said. So yeah, veryinteresting because I'm not that type of person
where I want to see the words. I wouldn't listen to the dialogue,
but in the show gun, obviouslyyou have to because they're speaking a different
language. But that's really interesting.Grant, I wonder if others do the

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same thing, turn on the captionso they can read it. Yeah,
well, we've converted many of ourfriends to do the same thing. Five
six sixty nine zeros the text linewill we being gonna join us in the
next hour? Had a lot ofcontroversy surrounding Colorado, see you the buffs

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beyond Shador. Over the last weekand a half or so. You had
the article in the Athletic. You'vehad Shador's tweets, which I you know,
the article in the Athletic didn't coverany new ground. It was just
the same, you know. Itwas. It was people leaving and not
happy with the way things go.Okay, fine, It didn't break any
new ground or anything like that.I think there are some people that read

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it and thought, you know,love his things, and I agree to
a point. I think there aresome things in there that I'm like,
well, you know, I wouldn'tdo that if I were a head coach,
but that's me. I didn't likeShador's tweets. I feel like an
article complaining about people feeling like theydidn't get listened to, and then Shador
a quote tweeting the article and saying, and I'm paraphrasing here, I'd have

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to go back and look at exacttweet, but I don't even remember.
This guy must have been mid kindof validates the article, you know,
when you got a running back who'syou know, who's transferring and saying I
couldn't get my voice heard out there, you know at all, couldn't get
their attention. I tried to,you know, it's it's Prime's program to
run how he wants. But Ifelt like that tweet sort of validated the

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crux of the complaint that's going around. Am I wrong in that? No,
it's you're absolutely right, because everyonewants to be heard, but let's
be totally honest, not everyone's goingto be heard. And we can look
at any college program across the country. We're going to see some of the

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same things play out. The onlydifference is that from above standpoint, they're
constantly in the news because because here'swhat they decided to do, and they
kind of, in my opinion,cornered the college sports in this way.
Why rely on someone else will reporton us when we can report on ourselves

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camps exactly, and we're going todictate what we want to right, regardless
of what everyone else on the outsidemay think we're gonna show. Now,
I do agree with you as faras your door being somewhat of a leader
on that team as a quarterback anda guy who is looking as his dad
is projecting that he's going to bea top five pick in the twenty twenty

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five draft. I would have tothink that GMS who may look at your
door in that particular way, maybethey give it a decide because when we
start to evaluate players, there's noposition scrutinized more so than the quarterback position.
Because ideas that you are the leaderof our team, Now, would

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you do the same thing if you'rea part of our team and the guy
leaves? Would you now have thisback and forth on social media? Name
me any other quarterback in college footballhistory who has gone out of his way
to call one of his former teammatesmid Not that I know of. I'm
not aware of anyone. It's justa bad look. And I'm not like,

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I get it. I get you'retrying to stand up for your dad,
you trying to stand up for theprogram. I get it. I'm
not mad at it from that regard. I'm just like, man, you're
no wrong messenger, dude. Sometimesyou have to do what's really tough,
Ben, And I'm talking to theright person when I say what I'm saying.
Put Twitter now. Yes nobody knowsthis. Well, like I didn't

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want to say that, but likenobody knows this. Sometimes you just got
to put it down. Just putthe phone down, kick it over in
the corner because someone is going tosay something to try to elicit a response
from you, and you can eitherbe a participant or say I'm not going
to partake and the non sistic thingsthat you're doing. But from door standpoint,

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I understand it from a slight standpoint, because we all have family.
I met your mom a couple ofweeks ago, and it's just like there's
certain things that are off limits.I had to get her in here before
Zach Wilson came. Exactly. I'mnot going to handle it now Zach Wilson
is here. But the idea isthat you don't go after family. Once

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you go after family, all betsof the gloves off, all bets of
It's like when Jamal Adams went afterthat reporter's wife or whatever place. Yeah,
bro, you there's a proportional response, and then there's the nuclear option.
You went nuclear. Yes, SoI understand defending your father, but
some of these things just have tostop. And I know in college athletics
there are going to be things thatare done with players and coaches that are

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going to not fair with everyone.Think about remember Kim Munky, remember the
article and it was threatening. Okay, well, here are these disgrunted players
who have said these things about you. So we know in every program across
these United States there is a playeror players who may not have liked how
they were treated or whether they weregetting their proper playing time or not.

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We know that happens. So whenI look at this whole situation, we'll
see you as some of the players. I understand that there's going to be
discrowned players. Well, we haveto do a better way of handling the
situation where like I said, thenput the phone down and kick it in
the corner. There's one thing I'velearned over time. It's that not everybody's
going to like you. It doesn'tmatter what you do. There's going to
be someone that dislikes you. Andeven if they don't actually dislike you,

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they're going to try to troull you. Because there are people out there dissatisfying
with their own lives, that that'swhat they're going to do. And it's
been a hard lesson for me becauseI've always lived with the well I can
convince them if they just meet me, I'm going to convince them to like
me. I've always lived like that. Everybody I've ever known, like the
people who know me in real life. I think, by and large get
a kick out of me. Imay be overstating it a little bit,
but most of the time, Imean I can be obnoxious. Sometimes they

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get a kick out of me.The people online don't. They don't,
and so I think that that's Ithink there's you know, there's a disconnector
one of the other things that Iwanted to Harpott is Uh. I read
this book a while back, andI can't read the title of the book,
But in the book, there wasthis this group of people and they
didn't believe in giving their names outright, like they their their name was

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like a closely held secret right.And the reason for that was, like
they're like nickname or their government name, their real name, the government agg
your birth name. We wouldn't bea governed name for these people with their
birthname right, because if you gaveyour name out it gave someone power over
you. It gave them the powerto command your attention. It's just like
Samson Delight the cutting of the hairtoo. We'll sort of bear with you
for a minute, Like if Isay, Nick, I've got your attention,

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right, No, so I havepower over you and that concept sort
of think about that for a minute. I have the power to command your
attention if I call your if Iknow your name, I have the power
to get your attention. I havethe power to call in response, right,
And so I think that that Shadorprobably needs to learn that about Twitter.
Don't don't let them have power overyou to compel you to respond.
It's a lesson. I had tolearn the hardest of ways because and people.

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You know, there's still stuff thatgets under my skin when people try
to challenge like my service record orsomething, you know, And I'm like,
bro, you weren't even in themilitary. You don't even you don't
have any idea what you're talking about. Making up things about my service record
is never gonna you know. Butpeople try to troll me anyway because they
know it gets a response, right, So I've had to learn the hardest
of ways not to let that havepower over me. I can't control people's

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opinions of me. And I thinkthat Chador and I think Colorado having put
themselves this is the first time thatPrime and Chador have really had adversity.
I mean, if you think aboutit, dating back to at least before
Dion was a pro player. Well, see, I feel as though this
puts added an unwanted pressure on thepeople we're talking about. Yeah. I

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think it does too, because Ithink they've been successful everywhere they've ever It's
with everything they've ever done, everywherethey've ever been, They've been successful,
and they wanted to smoke. Theywanted the attention coming in. Cool.
Hey, I'm mad at it.Colorado's relevant for the first time in three
decades. But this is why.And once again, we're in the media
business. So it's been said thateven bad publicity is good publicity because people

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are talking. I mean, let'sbe Toeljana Cu hasn't really had, like
you said, this amount of attentionin some time. So whether people like
what's going on and what's being saidand taking place over x the Twitter space
doesn't make a difference. It's inthe news, it's become newsworthy. People

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are talking about it. Colorado isthe center of the college football world,
whether winning games or not right now. And there were four to eight because
of the spectacle exactly. So,even with the record not being what you
know, some that see you hopefor it to be. But if you're
Rick George, you're looking at thislike someone's talking about us. We're in

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the news, they're talking about uslocally, and they're talking about us from
a national standpoint. Now, likeyou said, you mentioned about that smoke.
Once these games start accounting for real, now you have to show up
because I can tell you I talkedto a handful of people this morning and

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most of those people are not rootingfor the cu bus to be successful.
There's a lot of people rooting againstit. There are nationally, there are
a lot of people rooting against Colorado, which I hate that. Whatever I
think of whatever he's doing, Ihate it when people root against something,
root force something, don't root againstsomething, but from their people that want
to see him failed. Yes,the individuals I spoke to today, they

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feel as though they're sick and tiredof it. They feeling that it's controlling
too much of the narrative in collegefootball for a program that hasn't really done
too much. And they just feelas though both Toms, his son,
the program, it is too much. And they are even talking about and
I know you are one for takingvictory labs, but the football is not

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gonna spike itself. But these individualswant the victory lab. They're ready for
the ticket, take parade right forfailure exactly. They're rooting. And there's
a variety of reasons for that.Some don't like his brashness and his out
you know, some people are justplaying racist. Some people are you know,
they don't like the spectacles, youknow, they just have to There

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are a variety of reasons why peoplewant to see you fail. I just
I don't. I can't. I'mnot wired to root for failure, right,
even even Miamies like, I'm notwired to root for failure, Like
I don't. I don't root forthem to fail. I root for me
to out succeed them, right,you know, And I mean, I

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guess that's I guess that's just maybethe way that I'm I've never been.
I've never been wired to root forsomebody to fail. But mostly negative people
think in that particular aspect, Likelike, I'm an optimistic person by nature
and is due to the hardship thatI live as a kid growing up.

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But I want to see everyone succeedin whatever way they can. So if
see you actually succeeds, believe itor not, it works well for college
football, even if you don't likethem. It's good to have a villain,
yes, hero every right, that'sthe mystery man. Let's just what
got to captain amazing killed in thefirst place? You try to bring Castanova

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Frankenstein back. It's a deep cutfor you guys right there. I like
the fact that like Seelo Green andthen played the not so Goodie Mob.
Yes, it was ridiculous, butyou do. I mean, think about
it. Football was better when thePatriots were good because we all had the
villain right there in front of us. Right, this man Belichick was going
like, it was better when wehad a villain. It's better when we

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got a villain. It's better whenKansas City is good because we got a
villain. Yes, Like like whenvictory you taste that much sweeter. It
definitely does. Like when you thinkabout the forty nine Ers back in the
day and the Dallas Cowboys when theyruled everything. I mean, it made
sports great because you wanted to rootagainst those particular teams. Right. That's

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why when you look at rivalries,you know, the Celtics and the Knicks,
right, those types of riles,I'm not rooting against them. I'm
rooting for my team to beat them, you know what I mean? Like,
Okay, so I was a Pacersfan. Girl. I love Reggie
Miller, loved this game, right, So I was kind of a Pacers
fan even though any kids, youhate it the Nicks there you go,

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yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I called him the Knickerbockers. Did
you also give Spike Lea the chokesignal too? He tells you. But
that was the thing. So Iwanted to be I didn't root for the
Knicks not to make the playoffs.I wanted him to make the playoffs.
I wanted to beat him in theplayoffs. See that's the whole idea.
And I think this is kind ofwhat the environment that coach Prime is setting

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up. But he's setting it upin his only coach Prime way. It
is he's telling this kid is athletes. It is us against the world.
So every time we go out there, we're going to get the best of
the security guards. And we're workingat concessions. You get the best of
everybody from everyone. So we haveto go out there and show up.
And I know this. Every coachcan't keep every single kid. And people

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may not like this, but thisis why I like Bill Parcells. You
never had to guess where you stood. He was always going to tell you.
Even if you didn't want to know, ben he would tell you.
So for me being around on thatand seeing that as a young player in
New York, I want you totell me. I don't want you to

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sugar cold me. I don't wantyou to put your arm around me and
hug me. I don't want that. Don't be false. No, No,
that's true, even if it's anugly truth. Right, So I'd
rather have I really have hard truthsand easy lives. Yeah, it's like,
keep them damn participating in trophies.I don't want it. Just tell
me what it is. Yeah,And that's why I like the fact of
being able, whether it's a NickSaban, whether it is coach Prime telling
kids, look, man, Iknow it's hard, but this may not

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be the place for you. Whykeep a kid in your program when you
know they're not gonna play, right? Why do that? Yeah, you're
just holding them hostage. Find sixsix nine zeros a text line. A
lot of people in here talking toagree with Grant on the subtitles. By
the way, subtitles are the wayI told you guys, it's just uh,
let's see my brother say, man, I want to do all that

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damn reading. It's just reading somany, so many I'm reading so many
subtitles. Somebody saw doing two inthe movie theater. The captions on.
At first they were not loving it, but then they but they then they
knew half what was going on.That's have wait, you spend money to
watch a movie that's almost three hours, and you up and down between the
screen trying to see cinema because youtry to read this thing like it's a

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book. I'm with you on thatone man, bab You've been rooting for
me to fail for years. BrianRedwoods love it. I think, guys.
Text on, we get back withour little Broncos Broncos Country Night.
Can wa welcome back to it,Broncos Country Tonight. Benjamin ol Brighten,
Nick Ferguson, Grant Smith here withyou. I'm brown haired, Nick,
not white. People like people likewhat converse conversation during the break. I

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got dark hair, Yes, Granthas kind of like a brown There's there's
a copper in there. I thinkmaybe copper. Yeah, sandy blonde.
Okay, sandy blond. Yes,I was. I was completely like white
blonde hair as a kid. It'sjust gotten darker as I've gotten older.
That's like my brother, man,My brother was like shockingly blonde as a

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kid, saying has a picture orsomething. Years all of a sudden it
became like dark brown. Were youborn in a house of dragons? I
mean, let me try aware ofmustaches? First name? Oh so like
the Dame of Thrones, right,and just saying my brothers like that though,
like all of my family's like darkhair, right, and then my

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my middle brother the ones closest inage to me, like you have blonde
hair growing up and then like allof a sudden, about fifteen sixteen years
old, boom, it just changedto like dark brown, just like that.
Would you guys believe me if Itold you when I was fine my
hair was blonde. I'm not wellnow I will now that you said that,
but I've been now okay, Iwas like, what are you nast's

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blonde? Not true. I'm justgonna see if I just kind of now
that you said me. I mean, you're one of those honest people I
know. I was like, well, maybe you did. I don't know.
I don't know. I didn't haveme here. I don't know what
at all fairness I did because Idid go through this phase like because of
hip hop, where I just kindof wind of dye my hair a little
blonde. But I wasn't born thatway. Yeah, five six six nine

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zeros a text line and I'm sevenElsa's. I have to say this,
this is the first time i've reallylistened to your show. I don't have
to say I really enjoy it.Keep up the good work. Well,
we appreciate you listening. Thank you. Uh two and four. I think
if you're going to tell a kidthat you're not okay to play at the
school, you don't announce it ontelevision. You have private conversation. I
don't know how I came in theprogram calling people use furniture. I'm still
kind of stuck on that. Yeah, I think that's I think that's the

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thing with Coach Prime. I thinkthat's the thing that it rubs a lot
of people the wrong way. It'sjust like kind of the way, you
know, I get to Brenandoshio,right, I get the I get that
when you've had success your whole life. I get that. And when you
come in with the attitude we're gonnahave the championship mentality, we're gonna I
get that. What I don't getis sort of kind of the almost dehumanizing

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language you use on some people.Right, But is this part of the
whole idea that well, walking intothe bus program, this is reality TV.
You know what you're signing up for, So everything that happens is gonna
happen in a real time that someof the people were already here didn't sign
up for that. You know,Coach prop came in and they didn't sign
up for that. So I sortof I sort of get that portion of

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it right, Like, I'm notI'm a rooting four for succeed. I
want to see a successful Colorado Buffaloesfootball program. I like being the center
of the college football universe. Youknow, it's kind of fun. I
come from SEC Country, which isalready the center of the college football universe.
You know. Well, hey man, and I say like, look,
I was going to use this line, but I decided against it.

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Okay, because I was gonna Iwas gonna use it, but I didn't
because I love you. And Iwas like, you know what that's like,
y'all you had to do is lookright up the root in college.
I thought you were gonna say GeorgiaTech. And I was like, that's
not the center. That was thepoint. Do I have a bullseye on
my back because I'm taking a lotof trees right right now, taking more

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strange than Joel Ostein did. Andthat in the h Lamar dis track,
man Joe Loos Stein's a grifted weirdo, you know whatever. But Haley Haailey
Joel Osmond confusion line, fire didyou see did you? Did you see
that there's a lot of beef that'sgoing on out here? He so kender,
you know, they held this wholemanufactured beef thing going on, and

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Jake Cole just like dropped out.He said, this is cringe. I'm
not doing this good for Jake Holebecause like the rat beefs now are so
like silly compared to like rat beasts. When we came up, when it
was like pocket Pa those that wasedition, like that was beef. What
they got now, man, it'slike it's like it's like a star steak
beef. It's like fast food restaurantbeef. It's like Nick's cold beef.

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But it's only like what did Ido to your man? And all of
a sudden mic night and blocos Man, Yeah I was, I'm just saying
so anyway, he fired back,and he had this line where he was
talking about uh and and mentioning thingsthat Haley Joel Osmon had started, but

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he accidentally said Joel Oast being oldlike the grifter from down in Texas,
you know who lives in the youknow, the fifty billion dollar mansion or
whatever, and wouldn't open the doorsof the church for refugees when they had
the hurricanes and all that, Likeit needs you to give me more money.
Yeah, that's what he says.He said. No, I was
like, what, Yeah, OralRoberts said that one time, like back

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in the eighties. He was like, God's gonna said, I'm gonna die
if we don't get like a milliondollars or something. But anyway, I
don't want to get into all that. But yeah, they take it straight.
It's like that was Sorry, wegot de railed and out there on
a tangent one thing. I don'twant to get derailed on those quarterback conversation
that never Broncos this year? Arewe Where is our confidence level in this
quarterback room? Which it's it's what'sfor dinner? Yes, it is,

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keep it going. Listen you gotbone Yx, Yes, Zach Wills.
They just traded four Watch your MomsJared Stidham, the spark the returning starter
right over, Yeah, the returningstarters say that with a question mark at
the end. I don't know.Uh. And then of course Bendinucci,

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who I think is the most hilariousof the four on Twitter. That's a
totally different story. It would bea disappointment if bo Knicks was not the
starter this season, if not dayone, then very Why would it be
so disappointed because you spent a twelfthoverall pick on you spen a first round
pick on a quarterback you're expecting tostart. Well, listen, see that's
the problem within of itself. See, everyone wants to draft a quarterback and

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they don't want to give him timeto develop. And that doesn't necessarily mean
that it's going to take a longtime for that particular player to develop.
But it's just this idea that whenyou make that type of move, you
have to go all guns of blazingand rush that person into the mix.
I'm with you on that. PatMaholmes staff for a year. However,
Pat Maholmes is up against Alex Smith, Bo Knicks is up against again,

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Zach Wilson, Jared the Spars.Listen, it doesn't matter, not gonna
be here anymore anyway. Okay,Listen that for me, that doesn't matter
because it's about making sure when thatguy goes out in this case we're talking
about bow Knicks, that he hasthe utmost confidence that is sustainable, not
to put a guy out there forthe sake of putting him out there and

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then wreck his confidence and they go, oh, well, yeah, well
he's a boss, but you can'tplay. I'm with you. I think
the question, though, is thatif bo Knicks can't beat out Zach Wilson,
Jarreted Stidham and Ben Denucci, thatI think you got a problem.
I mean, bon Knicks comes intothis as the second oldest first round quarterback
ever drafted, but behind Brandon Wheaton. What does a's have to do with

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it? It shouldn't have anything todo to say, Okay, well,
I know one part of is like, well he should be able to overtake
these guys, because statistically quarterbacks tocome in at twenty three years of age
year older don't work out at apretty high rate. There. Why is
it? See the thing that we'reavoiding here is why does it not work
out for those particular guys. Usuallythey're topped out. Usually there were men

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playing with boys back in college.Did you talking about guys who hit played
a long time and they hit thebenefit of being a man playing amongst always.
Okay, that part of it Ido see and is partially true.
Well, once a guy graduates fromthe collegiate love where he's in the pros,
and you felt as though either yougave up draft capital to acquire him

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or he fell to you at theright place, it seems what happened with
the Denver Broncos man. You pushall your chips to the center of the
table. I don't play the poniesanything in Vegas, but you not as
well. All Right, so youunderstand this metaphor, you pushed all your
chips to the center of the tablebecause all the success rides on that particular
player becoming the player that everyone projectshim to be. Yeah, and I'm

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not even getting into the projection ofwhat he used or isn't. What I'm
saying is he's at the end ofthe day. If he's not starting Week
one, how disappointed are we becausewe spent the twelfth overall pick on this
guy. So that's Sean wait,wait, hand picked quarterba. So that
means every other quarterback that was selectedbefore the Broncos picked at twelve, those
guys should be starting quarterback. Butwe also should look at well, this

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will be right, right, Solook at a situation with Drake May with
the Patriots, but he might notbe because you got Jakobe Brissett there,
who's don't you cab me wit aminute? But Drake May was perceived as
being one of the best quarterbacks inhis draft second and some even had him
above Caleb Williams. Well, Idon't know, maybe had that. Jayden
and Caleb were by most people Italked to around Lee were one and two.

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I would suggest that Jayden Daniels wasnumber one on people's boards more than
he was number three. See.I think the conversations should be switched to
not just a player being a startingquarterback week one, but that player also
playing well because by default you canmake both nicks the starting quarterback right,
and you can't buy part one tothe conversation is at the end of the

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day, are we forcing that oris he earning it? And do we
believe that that's what's going to happen, Because there's let's let's say it,
this is Denver. There's always pressureon the quarterback. You have such a
lineage to live up to, whetherthat's John Elway, who, by the
way, was both drafted and retiredtoday, whether that was forty one or
twenty five years ago, Jake Plummer, Peyton Manning, and for one brief

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season, the ghost of Tim Tebow. Well, you have to miss in
bow quart a grant. He's holdingup a sign says yet we have to
mention Tim Tebow at least once pershow. But but what I'm getting at,
it's like there is a lineage here, there is an expectation here,
and you've got a fan base that'sbeen thirsting for a quarterback since Peyton Manning

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retired, whether you've got Trevor Simeonor Drew Locke, Flacco, keenum Bridge,
what whatever, they've been thirsting forthe guy since Peyton Manning retired.
Is there going to be additional pressureto thrust bow Nicks out there rather than
wasting more time on someone who isn'tthe future in Jarrett Stidham, Zach Wilson

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or heaven forbid at Ben Denucci.Absolutely, the pressure is always going to
be there, because once again we'retalking about the Denver freaking Broncos. You
just laid out a list of quarterbacks. Some of those guys have won and
apperiod in playoff games. Some havenot, So there's a certain level of
expectations just being on the Broncos rosterto begin with, but to know that

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it's been such a playoff drought andthe playoff position hasn't hit over the past
couple of years, and we've hadto watch other teams draft quarterbacks to go
win super Bowls, like Patrick Mahomes. I mean, he's been the four,
he's won three, so it makesthe situation that much more die.
But I say, don't look atthose parameters and force both knicks into a

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situation. You know you don't haveto. You can wait and say,
well, when he's ready, wefeel as though he can go out there
and put his best foot forward.That's when you do that. You shouldn't
feel outside pressure from a fan baseand say, well we want Boa,
we will both shut the hell up. We're gonna put him out there when
he's when we think he's ready.Well, we had people that were doing

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that for Chad Kelly. You rememberChad Kelly was mister Irrelevant. You had
case Catum out there and you hadpeople chatting that for Chad friggin Kelly.
Remember that. Remember the one gamehe came in and had got the kneel
down. It was like before halftimeand people were applauding the knee. The
kneel down heard around the world.But that's that's out of desperation. Never

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mind the fact that Chad Kelly lookedterrible in practice. Yes, I mean
terrible. But the fan base,you know how, it is so that
that That's what I'm trying to getat. It is like with bone Nicks,
I mean, I want to seehim. We see a lot of
these analytical study, analytical studies thathave come out now about you know how
he was one of the more hyperaccurate quarterbacks in college football, and you
know those kinds of things. Iwant to see Boneicks as much as the

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next guy. But my question is, at what point do you put him
in? At what point do youput him in? Is he gonna be
ready? Do we think he's gonnabe ready? I know we need to
get to training, can't to seethese guys throw, but I think there
will be a palpable sense of frustrationfrom this fan base if he is unable
to quickly and effectively beat out guysthat we've seen before in Zach Wilson,
Jarrett Still, and Bendinucci. Butthis is why fans are fans and coaches

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are coaches, right. Coaches getpaid to evaluate, and sometimes during the
valuation process, some coaches don't doa great job. There's a little bias
associated with it. Fans are fans. The idea is that you made this
move when the fan base was clamoringfor the Broncos that have a quarterback of
their own, someone that the fanbase can cling to. You now essentially

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have that guy, so you haveto allow him to kind of work himself
into that role. I know theidea. You want the plug and plan
right away. You want to puthim in the microwave hit thirty seconds go,
being done. But that's not BenI'm here to tell you that's not
how this freaking works. No,it's it's not. But I think at

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the end of the day, likeI said, I think the fan base,
I think they're going to be antsyto get him into play, and
I think the worst thing you cando is rush somebody out when they're not
ready. I'm with you, I'mone hundred percent with you on that.
At the same time, he's justa fan base that's going to be patient
enough to let Sean Payton, developthis guy into what he needs, because

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if he's not the guy right awaywho is, well, only time would
tell. And the only way thatyou can see that is by putting bo
out there when he is ready.And even if you feel as though,
okay, well, we want tothrow him in and we want to see
how he adjusts to the rigors ofprofessional football, be prepared for what you're

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introducing him too. And once again, like it. I love it.
Sean pay was hired to do acertain job, and his job is to
carry forward the legacy of this organization, regardless of what the fan base wants
him to do. Far too manytimes seeing coaches in this league, and
I can tell you it happens listeningto pressure from the media, listen to

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pressure from the fans, and makinga mistake when they should Because let's go
back to Paxxi Lynch. One packsLynch should have never been drafted here.
Yeah, let's be totally on.That was a desperation move after Brock.
You know, they didn't expect Brockto do what he did. It was
a desperation, but they didn't eventhey didn't even fully vet Paxton Lynch in
that draft. There in lies partone of the problem. So you take

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a guy to Memphis and put himin a system that does not fit his
skill set, now debilitating him rightand kind of taking away his confidence,
and then from Pakistan's standpoint, notbeing a student of the game, studying
your place. So there's fault onboth sides. But when you take a
guy, it is your job asa coach set him up because you want

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to highlight him because if that guyplays well, that only validates the decision
that you made, would which Ithink Gary Kobia did for Trevor Simeon.
I think we all remember him notpulling the plug on Simeon at halftime when
you're supposed to, and Simeon waskind of like better he's got and better,
yes, frankly better, you know. At the end of the day,

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it's I think that Sean Payton hasgot to find the way to mitigate
expectation early so this fan base doesn'tcrush this kid coming in before you know,
and who knows, maybe he comesin a balls out, but I
think you need to put the backstopin there to make sure that this fan
base doesn't, you know, ruinhis confidence ahead of time. Trying to

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roll him out there and rush himout there. We come back. We
got Roamy be this in Broncos CountryNight, Kawa, Denver's football first nap
of overtime here tied at twenty threeElinus scrimmage. The Bronco twenty shotgun for
Tim Tebow. Short motion is thathe Royal Tim playfakes in the pocket,
sets throws past Tom Demry's Thomas outthe forty five mid deal. Here we

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go forty thirty five foot race twentyfifteen ten touch down. Denver is over,
gets over in Denver