05-06-24 Hour 1 of Broncos Country Tonight

Episode Transcript

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Welcome to it Broncos Country tonight.But with all Brian Dick Ferguson, Grant
Smith, I could tell how manyof you guys do not watch roasts by
some of the comments that were thatwe're out there on Twitter, listen man,
because I love this. I loveit. I love it and I
love not being the person on stagebecause I love being the target of it.
They go ham and the person who'smade a I guess living out of

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this is uh, what was ita Jeff Ross? Yeah, Ross,
he's made a living out of this. Greg Giraldo passed away. He kind
of the torch was passed to kindof Jeff Ross is like the roastmaster general.
Okay, So I was talking tomy cousin who's obviously older than me,
and he was just like, well, yeah, man, you guys
are talking about the roast of TomBrady. I remember when I was a
kid and Dean Martin used to dothis all the time. I said,
what, Dean Martin back in theday, did you ever watch those all

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got started? Yeah? Those thingsgot started, you get Yeah, there's
some good ones. There's some goodones on there. Some of them are
a little dated, but there's somegood ones on there. I never knew
that, and he threw something out. I was like, I know,
Dean Martin, the singer and beingin the movies, but not doing roast
of any sort. But the roastof Tom Brady. It was very interesting.

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And I'm telling you, man,I was dying laughing the entire time.
Kevin Hart did a great job ofhosting. I felt for Drew Bletsoe.
He got up there, he didhis part. But I don't know
if I could put myself and DrewBletsoe's shoes, because Tom is winning in
every aspect of his life, youknow, according to Drew all except for
one marriage. Wait a minute,but when you Tom Brady and you have

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what was it? Fox is payinghim three under seventy five million dollars to
do the broadcast, and now he'sopened the date and he's got great,
great looks. I know, Benslowed down, don't say anything, but
he has some hand some good looks. How bad could life be for Tom
Brady, Let's be totally honest.Well, that's why he's got to get
people to make fun of him becauseeverything else is so great. Well,
but that's so here's the thing,and this is the thing about roasts,

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is we do that to PE's.It's almost like a car wash. It's
what we do to people to rinsethe grime off so they can get back
to you know, to the Ohthat's what it is. It kind of
get the off. Think about itthough, like that's what we think about
the roasts that have happened over thelast few years, and the people that
are David Hasselhoff, Alec Baldwin,Justin Bieber, people who needed a rehabilitation

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of their image. So we allgot all the jokes out on him,
and then all of a sudden we'recool with them again. I don't know,
because they were going ham on himabout that divorce and his wife with
we all would hate it because he'slike the most successful person ever. He
married a supermodel, He won themost Super Bowls, he made millions of
dollars. It wouldn't make you.So we make fun of him and we
all feel better. At the endof the day. He still wins because

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he married a supermodel. Yeah,he got divorce, but he married a
supermodel and now he's just gonna hookup with mare Supervis. But I think,
you know, as a former TomBrady hater. I do like him
more after this row. That's thewhole idea. That's the whole idea.
It's it's it's a it's a prmove that all of a sudden you like
the guy again. It makes itmore human now, right, because we

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tore him down. Now it's nowit's okay, we got all we got
all our Now now he's one ofus. It's like it's like the per
except for jokes. Right, It'slike the pers but for jokes. I'll
tell you what, man, itwas great. They did a great job
Tom to get on the chain.But there's some highlights last night, and
I think, like Nicky Glazer,I love her stand up, but when

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you talk about holding nothing back anddoing it in a very eloquent way and
being the only female woman on thestage, it was it was a thing
of beauty. Yeah, and she'sbeen doing it for a while. I
mean she's you know her and uh, the two best ones I thought were
her and Tony Hinchcliffe and and butthey do that professionally, so that's what

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they do, and so you wouldexpect them to be that much better.
I mean, you guys know howto set program is so strict. But
if you follow it exactly as hedoes, you two can lose to your
family. And seriously, you canlost so much family it works. How

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also lost thirty million dollars in cryptos? How did you fall for that?
I mean even Gronko was like,I need no, that's not a real
mummy rock prob Actually the big point, which is where he was chew my

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handful of nipples. But I gottago, but I just I have one
more thing to say, and Ipromised to keep it. Kevin Harder,
Yeah, I mean, look,I love those things. That was the
cleaned up you know, tamer versionand all that kind of stuff. But
I love those things. I've beenI've been keeping a file if we ever

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have a media roast. First mean, you've been keeping the five as they
would say today, you have receipts, purchase orders, purchase the things that
haven't even been bought yet. Youknow, that would be really interesting to
have a Denver meteor roast. Scottthe Huff put a put a tweet out
and the three biggest names that cameup was like me, merrill At and

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uh and I'm like, yeah,I'm here, what are you going to
say about me that I haven't alreadyheard exactly, So are you going to
say about me that I haven't alreadyheard? Man? That that would be
great. You know what the NFLshould do that, like after the season.

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I know they have all these awards, the NFL Honors should be a
roast. Well yeah it should.I know sometimes it feels that way with
the comedians that are up there.But just imagine what that would look like,
especially for teams and players and coacheswho didn't perform well the previous year,
right, I mean, ain't ableto laugh at yourself? And I
have to say, man, I'vematured a lot because I wasn't one of

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those types of individuals that could laughat myself. And the reason I couldn't
fall transparency because when I was akid, I used to get teased a
lot, right, So but nowI've kind of I grew out of that
aspect of it, and I justsay, you know what, tell what
people say. They're gonna say whateverthey want to say. That's and so
like I grew up, but that'swhat prepped me for it, you know,

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like I grew up getting te He'slike, Tom, I'm ready for
what do you get. I mean, like, what are you gonna tell
me? I'm gonna get You cantell whatever, you can say, whatever
you want. Just remember I getto go to see that's interesting. I
would I would sign up to uhwatch that media growth. I wouldn't make
it happen. Let's do it forcharity. I'm saying, get it all

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together. I'm somebody who's good atplanning things. You know what you need
to do when you get Drotar becausehe was always good at planning things.
When you get Sean Drotar, likelike, so somebody who's good at logistics
because I'm the idea is man,I'm not. I don't want to plant
it. I'll tell you what Iwant to do and then you go plant.
Like do we left Jeff Ross hosted? I think we'll probably not be

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able to afford that. But he'snot doing that much out. I'm just
saying I don't know what his feeis, but well, let's do this
for we do it for charity.I'm here for it. What was the
cause we were talking about a coupleof weeks ago. Prostag Yeah, get
cancer. The finger, Yes,that linds up perfectly. It's one finger.
It's kind of point less than whatyou think it was. But you

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know, I'm just saying, like, I am absolutely one percent totally in
favor of doing this well, andI'm not going to have hurt Some people
might get hurt feelings by this.I'm not the kind of guy who's ever
going to have hurt feelings by it. Well, if everyone's willing to do
that. I mean, last yearI tossed out the whole idea of these
media Olympics or like like kind oflike the combine. The reason I suggested

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that because so many times players areoften criticized by those in the media who
don't fully underst damn what it's liketo be on that side. So my
idea was this, put them inthat world of an athlete and just see
what that's like when you are beingoverly judged and criticized, sometimes on things
that you can't really control. Yeah. Look, I feel like a roast

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has significantly less chance for media membersto get severely injured other than their pride,
which probably needs to be knocked outa few anyway, speaking for myself,
but I'm hereful. Why not let'sget all this stuff together, Let's
do it. It'll be fun,it's good content. Would you be into
allowing this to happen if some ofthe individuals doing the roasting are some of

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those who have I guess been trollson social media? Fine with it?
Just remember I get to fire back. And we have such a great comedy
scene here in Denver that we couldget some local comedians to join in as
well, like they did with theTom Brady w Yeah, we'll get Perna
the host of thing, you know, I mean, like we could,
we could, we can work thisout. Yeah, that that'd be interesting,

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that'd be sweet. I'm just I'mjust saying make sure tonight obviously we
got Nuggets t Wolves game too,must win game for the Denver Nuggets.
Uh tip off I believe it schedulefor eight o'clock, which means it'll tip
off at like eight fifty, buteight fifteen. Well, you know,
and by the time they get withthe time they get them with the star
spangled banner and the lineups and allthat kind of thing, were left in
the nice sweats singing that tonight.Yeah that's gonta be a good twenty minutes

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or whatever, so big thing therewon't Vidy Benedetta on top of the hour
to it's kind of preview that talkabout that. I I'm concerned for the
Denver Nuggets. I knew that theTimberwolves were gonna be a tough matchup for
him. But but I watched thatgame, and I'll tell you, they
didn't look hungry. And I don'tknow if you've ever looked at me,

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but I know what hunger looks like. See, I'm already started. Wait,
wait, wait a minute, Ijust roasted myself for I've seen you
eat before. That's what I getthat, right, wasn't that one thirteen
tacos I put away that one day? Yeah? Then everybody got mad.
They're like where where It was almostdisgusting to watch. Oh no, No,
it was disgusting because he washed itdown with some powdered donuts, did

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a two weeks of coke. Thatwas I was always like, Okay,
we're getting healthy tomorrow, but tonightwe're getting down. And that's kind of
what happened in the game with theNuggets and the Timberwolves. And I know
why you have cause to concern.And it was the same for me as
well, because Minnesota and this iswhy you win during the regular season.

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Them winning and splitting with the Nuggetsgave them a little confidence and doing that
without having Big Cat in the mixthat that made Minnesota fields as though we
can win those types of games.And then once again that has been the
advantage for the Nuggets over the pasttwo years, hosting that first playoff game
and being able to win and forcethe other team to chase. So now

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the Nuggets are chasing and Coach Maloneis saying, okay, well, he's
gonna be able to tell by maybethat first quarter what his team is made
of. When we've heard coach Malonespeak of his team like this in the
past before they actually won the championship, and this is not one of those
things where now your team now hasto act tough. That's one of those,

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I guess overrated things like you haveto be that guy. You can't
go out there and manufacture a levelof toughness. You can't really do it.
And for the first time this season, I guess outside of playing well,
okay, see in Minnesota, thenext guy pussing them out, they
did. We'll get to we'll getto more of that top of the hour
of vide but that I want toget I want to get deep dive into

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that because I'm I'm a little concernedthey need this win to night to get
this thing back to Zeros and thenas an equalizer and then and then go
from there. You see to Shawthis reportment floating around last couple of days
at Denver Broncos draft board, SeanPayton and George Payton listened to the quarterbacks
and a random order on the boardin order to hu keep it secret who
they really liked. Have you seenthis? Yeah? God, okay,

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I have some thoughts. He hadsome thoughts. Who saw it? Who
was gonna see it? Do youthink it was gonna see it's a locked
room? What do you thing ofthe scouts was gonna sneak in there?
It was gonna fly this. Youknow the doors all have badges on them,
and you could see who badged init out right right exactly. Wasn't
Janitor gonna come in there and callup the Vikings and be like, hey,

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they're not on McCarthy. Maybe thiswas Sean Payton seeing if George Peyton
was a leak. Maybe I knowhere's the thing. I know who they
had in order not looking at theboard. Caleb Williams Jake Daniels Boonex was
third. Does it really make adifference how the names were actually arranged?

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Oh, and this is like whowas gonna see it? And we had
a great text in here because it'sa seven too. Oh or the Broncos
draft board not listed in order tokeep it secret. Bronco's out here playing
chess while everyone else was playing football. Well done. I like that because
even Sean Payton said said it himselfthat he during the whole draft process,

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its comments were alluding to the factthat the Broncos wouldn't move up. Note
as though that and you and Italked about it that hey, there was
no way that they could, rightand what they would have to give up
to actually move. So it's oneof these things that during this draft process
that a lot of things that aresaid about, hey, this may be
our guy. You talk a lotabout a particular player, you make all

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the fan base or other outside mediathing. Okay, well now you in
on this guy and then you goget another guy. Let's think about that
Atlanta Falcons. They didn't bring MichaelPanis in for a visit. No,
they flew out there, right.So it's kind of one of those things.
You got to be careful about theinformation you receive and what's the purpose
in the tempt that someone's trying toget you to kind of go into.

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Paul Allen came here to den Refect. He was in this building, uh,
doing some doing some work, andSean Payton, you know, leaked
to him that he really love JJMcCarthy and got that room. That's where
that rumor got going was because ofthat. And le Broncos had no intention
of drafting JJ McCarthy. They wereon bow Nicks. I just like,

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I don't even understand the purpose ofthis part of the whole. We put
on a random on the on theboard inside the you know, inside the
room, who was gonna tell onyou? Well, then the idea of
putting something out like that is creatingmore dialogue after the fact to possibly cast
maybe his shadow of a doubt inthe Broncos process or the fact of taking

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and selecting bon Nicks in the firstplace. Well, but I mean,
like, what the you fooled nobody? You didn't, You didn't fool anybody.
We've no I mean I've had I'vegot tweets out here since January.
You're talking about bon Nix as theguy is their dude, Like, well,
who are we fooling here? Like? What what? What purpose does

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this service you? When you geta snuff out of leak if you had
a random order with Petix at threeand then they hear that and they go,
okay, well now we know,but how would you have known who
saw that? Then? Like it? It just doesn't mean there's no there's
no scenario here where this makes anysense. It doesn't make logical sense to
do that. What's the It's tocause doubt to who, confusion to who

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to those things? You and areyou and I are rolling? Mind?
You know the war room over there? Hey, you see you see it?
They changed up the quarterback quarder today. If nobody can see it,
it's locked away. There's no windowsin that room unless, like Grant saying,
you're trying to cass someone drysing thisshow internally, But how are you
going to do that? See,if it were me, we would have

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done that, except every group thatwe had taken through would be a different
order, and then I would narrowit down to one of those, you
know, like I would take differentpeople and I would know because the orders
would got out there, I wouldknow. But this doesn't Just putting it
in once randomly doesn't narrow it downfor you. You'd either have a snitch
you you don't well the idea.In order to catch someone seeking very,

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very value of information, you putit out there. And sometimes you might
leave the door just the jar enoughso someone could come in and just see
what's on the board and see whothey're gonna leak it to. Who's gonna
be the first person outside of thebuilding to say something. Guilty is charged?

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To quote Ryan Edwards's favorite Dave Matthewsong, But I've been all on
ben guilty is charge. But Imean, like, at the end of
the day, just just changing upthe order on a board on that nobody's
gonna see doesn't solve anything to me. And so that's why I thought that
was a little weird. There wassome other weird comments that came out.
We'll get into those next on theon the Russ and Sean Payton relationship and

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why Rush isn't here is the BroncosCountry like KWA welcome back to it Broncos
Country tonight, Benjamin ol Brighten,Nick Ferguson, Grant Smith here with you,
talked a little bit about Russell WilsonSean Payton's relationship and the comments.
I first saw them when Zack Segerswrote that piece on Let's Talk Broncos,
but they were they're attributed to somethingelse. I guess add that I can

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never pronounce her last name. Myuncle is called her a d K because
I can never pronounce for last name. Don't work. I know who she
is, yeah, uh. Weused to be a beat reporter for the
Steelers. I think she just kindof covers a league now, but we
used to be a beat reporter forthe Steelers for a long time. And
she had some comments in I guessa podcast appearance where she talked about the

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reason that it didn't work between Russand Sean. And as I started reading
this, my first thought was,Denver has moved on Sean. We don't
have to keep putting this stuff outthere, because this stuff wasn't coming from
the Rost side of the house.All these he was paint Russell Wilson a
bad leg. There's only one personthis leaking this stuff out because it only
benefits one person, basically saying thatthe Broncos had to go to a wristband

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system, which they did, andthen they had to start going to two
word play calls for different personnel groupingsand all that kind of stuff. Well,
they were doing that anyway, becausethat's what Sean Payton does with the
personnel groupings because they shuffle in itout all the time. That does anything
to do with RUSS and play calls. But the implication was that Russell Wilson
was too dumb to be able toget verbose play calls and RUSS had plenty

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of problems, and yeah, hehad issues with that offense last year.
He struggled. He couldn't get it. He can't read the middle of field.
Okay, fine, but the ideathat Russell Wilson can't get verbos play
calls is frankly stupid. Russell Wilsonhad his best season under Brian Schottenheimer,
who has famously long verbos play callsold school through. You don't believe me,

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asked Tim Jenkins. Shotty was theoc up there with the Rams when
the Rams were to say lowis withTim Jenkins was in training camp. He
had to learn those play calls.Here's my two cents as it pertains to
this, I'm going to add itfrom a coaching standpoint and everyone out there

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listening, they should be able tounderstand this. Each individual person has a
very unique way of learning any subjectmatter. We don't all learn the same.
Some are faster than others. Iam more of a hands on visual
learner. I want to see it, I want to walk through it,
I want to do those types ofthings. Some individuals have photographic memory where

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you put it on the board,boom, they remember it whatever. We
also know that there are players whoare great on the board. They're great
on the whiteboard, answering every singlequestion, but once you put them on
the field, they can't do anything. Same thing with what was in the
army. It's not just football.Applies to a lot of things in life.
Well, a lot of guys weregreat in the classroom and they got

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out the field and they were Ican't say that. Well, okay,
to be fair, those are twoentirely different things, because yeh, yes,
there are ben being in the classroomas a football player going on the
field. It's you know, youstill have to worry about being hurt right
there. There's still the element whereyou could die. But it's the mission,

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and there's there's a chance of beingwounded, but military, but it's
fine. And sometimes that had changeda person's perception right away. Okay for
you maybe, but for others it'sdifferent. When when I when I heard
it, did Decay's you know claims, and I watched the podcast because it
was Cleveland podcast. They were talkingabout the NFC North and in the NFC

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North, the Pittsburgh stire was apart of that, and so is Russ
and I'm listening to it and here'swhat I know from a coaching standpoint.
It is your job as a coachto get the best out of your players,
and that's recognize both their strengths andtheir weaknesses, and you want to
accentuate the strengths by decreasing the amountof weaknesses. Russell was not the first
quarterback to have to wear a riskband, and there's nothing wrong with wearing

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a risk band. And sometimes theidea is that if a player has to
wear a risk band, that meansthat they lack the IQ. No,
I mean defensive players wearing offensive playerswear them, and we see so many
guys use them all the time.It helps speed things up, but once
again, it goes back to arate of understanding something. If you are
on offensive coordinating, you've been doingsomething for let's just say twenty years and

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one particular system, chances are you'regonna know that system better than any other
player who's gonna run that system.Your hope is that he's gonna come in
and you're gonna have him geared up, ready to go, and you'll be
able to call certain plays. Butthere's nothing wrong with that. Look,
I know this for a fact,and I've been around players like this.
There are Hall of fame players whomay have struggled to graft the concept maybe

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in an offense, or your jobis to make it easier on that particular
player, and there's no slide.If a guy says that, hey,
listen, I'm not getting this asquickly as you would like for me to
get it, most people on theoutside say, well, that guy is
not smart. Me, for one, I don't believe that we all have
a certain way that we learn andjust because a guy may not have adapted

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as quickly, because it's be totallyhonest, When you go into a new
offense for a first time, mostlikely things are going to be moving slow
motion, and usually whether it's arookie a veteran quarterback or any player,
you're better in that second and thirdyear in that scheme of post in the
first year. Yeah, And Imean some guys it takes a while to
learn someone. Once it clicks forhim, it clicks really well. And

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Derek Carr was famously a slow learner. But once it clicks for me.
You know, That's why if youever look and when he gets in year
two a year three in a system, his numbers go way up. You
know, your one system is bad, then year two it gets decent,
then your three it's good. Youknow, Drew Locke was a guy who
struggled to learn in me, butwhen it clicked for him, you know,
there were times where it was nice. And there have been examples that
not everybody's Andrew luck that picks itup on the first you know, the

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first go round. So I'm withyou on that. I just there were
two things that stuck out at me. I'm like, why is this coming
out now? Like why do wecare? Like does everybody's turned the page
on this? And Pittsburgh's gonna findout, you know, what russy is
in Arthur Smith's system and whether ornot he can execute it from from you
know, seeing it there, andthen who does this benefit? Who does

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it benefit to put this stuff outthere? Now? I mean, are
we at the point where we're justslannering people just to be slandering people?
To me, that was kind ofmy first thought, because the Broncos essentially
have already turned turned the page,the moment rusts on with the Steelers that
it was a dundee, it wasa rep yeah, but you know,
having these slow drip stories come out, to me, it's like, what

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are we fishing for? I mean, it's it's over right now. The
Broncos have moved on. Boat Nixis their guy in the future. They're
trying to see if maybe Zach Wilsoncould either prepare him or push him.
Either way, the team has movedon, so everyone else just needs to
do the same thing, turn thepage and move on. And That's where
I'm at with it too, Like, I just don't I don't think there's

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anybody clamoring for more Russell Wilson's stories, positive or negative in the Denver fan
base. I think they're concentrated onbon Knicks. I think they're concentrated on
the new quarterback of the Denver Broncos. Maybe some people are on Zach Wilson
jareds didn't, but I think byand large it's Bonnick and they know it's
Bonix's show. So why are weeven why is this stuff even relevant anymore?
Sean Payton and Russell Wilson didn't getalong. Cool, Russell Wilson is

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somewhere else. Sean Payton got hisguy. Why is this an issue?
Because once again it's great when peopleare talking about quarterbacks, because it seemed
as though the quarterback conversation constantly offseason, during the season, whatever it
is, dominates the landscape. Butnow it's time to move on, focus
on bone Knicks. How to helpthis kid learn this system and get better.

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So now the Broncos can actually competefor a playoff spot and progress to
getting to another Super Bowl. Welcomeback to it, Broncos Country Tonight.
Benjamin Olbrighten, Nick Ferguson, GrantSmith here with you. Talk a little
bit about Sean Payton Russell Wilson thatget along as another media leak comes out
or whatever, but uh, wedidn't need a media leak for this one.

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Pat Riley not the town kind ofon Jimmy Butler basically told him if
he wasn't on the court, heshould probably shut his mouth. Had a
few other choice words, Jimmy Butlergonna be a Miami Heat. What would
you do if a coach told youto shut your mouth? I would tell
him shut his mouth, and probablycoach he's like the general manager. But

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well, I mean it depends onwho it came from, though, Like
if it's Bill Parcells telling you toshut your mouth, well, it all
depends on what is he telling meto shut my mouth about? Because remember,
I'm a grown ass man. Youwant to hear the clip from pat
Riley, Yeah, I platon Yeahfor him to say that, you know,
I thought, is that Jimmy trolling? Or is that Jimmy serious?

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You know, if you're not onthe court plane against Boston or on the
court playing against the New York nextyou should keep your mouth shut and your
criticism of those things. Okay,Okay, So I feel what he's saying.
I mean, he's an old schoolcoach. I can back in my

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time playing for Bill Parcels and NewYork Jets, I could easily see Bill
Parcells saying something like that. Butwe would know as players how to handle
that base on who our head coachis, because he's going to set the
culture already as far as how werespond, we're not going to give ammunition

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to our opponent. But pat Rowley, to a certain degree, has a
point. If you're not out thereon the field of quart or whatever it
is, you can't really comment becauseyou were not there. You were not
there out there to change anything.But I understand things from a player standpoint
because I was. I felt thesame way when I was a part of
the Broncos. I got hurt orinto my knee. We didn't we didn't
win against the San Francisco forty nineers, we got knocked out of the

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playoffs, And I'm thinking like,if I played in that game, the
outcome would have been different. Right, That's how we always think as a
player. So to Jimmy Butler's credit, I want my players to boss up
like that, to say, ifman, if I was in the game,
that guy wouldn't have made all thoseshots in the gym against Bismin Albright,
right, if I played right onfire, right right. So I

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can understand both sides of it.But with pat Riley being an old school
coach, It's one of those thingslike when you think about the old Knicks
and the Lakers, a lot ofthose guys didn't really talk. Now,
the guys who played for the Knicks, they they didn't talk. They were
just brought us a different sense ofphysicality on the court. But Jimmy wasn't
there, so it's hard for himto say that. But I understand both

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sides of it. But like toanswer your question, if a colt said
something to me, I mean,I'm gonst say something bad, Well,
pat Riley wasn't on the court.Should he keep his mouth shut? Well,
he make it, make it veryvalid play. I'm just saying that's
that would have been my rust.Okay, allow me to retort, Yes,
Jimmy could have clapped back just likethat bus out of respect for pat

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Riley. Most likely pat Riley.And I'm not saying that's pat Riley just
murder me. Sleep. Uh.I get it. I think I get
it from both sides here, becausepat Riley is defending the other players.
Because if Jimmy Butler says that thereis that there is that inherent arrogance.
If I had been out there,that it wouldn't have happened. Right in
that belief himself. But at thesame time, you're insulting the guy who

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was out there. There was abuzzy guy. When you're insulting the guy,
you're insulting the guy who was hewas working in your stand right there,
your teammate. You're saying he's he'snot good enough. Well, let's
be totally honest. I'm a heatfan. I can say this. There
are other guys who are there.They were out there, but they were
not out there, right, Sowhat I'm saying and so yeah, I
mean, I can understand you whatyou were talking about. But sometimes,

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man, you got to keep itone hundred. If you're going to be
out there and you know that you'replaying against a division rival that has a
long standing history, man, yougot to show up and representive. I'm
not out there, then I needyou to step up. So if you
don't, then I'm gonna say,Look, we didn't win. I'm not
gonna say we would have won.Well, we might have fared a lot

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better if I were playing. Ithink there's a fine line to navigate there
between having the confidence in yourself thatyou are the piece, you are the
missing piece, and making sure youdon't throw your teammates out of the bus.
And for Jimmy Butler, who franklyhas not come up in some of
the big moments that he needed to, I'm not sure he's the messenger of
I am the missing piece. That'sprobably what pat Rally was trying to say

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in very subtle words, that hey, listen, we relyed on you being
the guy. In some moments youwere Jimmy Buckets. You showed up,
and then other moments you kind ofdisappear. You were Jimmy busted exactly.
So the heater at the cross roadsright now where they have to not look
at this this incident because it's nota major incident and just it just words

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whether Jimmy could actually lead the Heatto where they need to go. It's
just almost like the way the Lakersare right now. Yes, is it
enough or do we need to retoolthis thing? That's right, because we
all know that Lebron James is acoach killer. Let's find out if the
Denver Nuggets have enough we come backand any betterdetto Just to Rucco's Country Night, ka Wait