05-08-24 Hour 1 of Broncos Country Tonight

Episode Transcript

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Welcome to It, Broncos Country Tonight, short show Tonight obviously Rocky So We're
Podcast Edition teased a little bit yesterdaythat Ryan Edwards would be joining the show.
We do have that segment that'll becoming up next. Always love getting

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the Godfather the o g back onMiss uh Mis get a chat with Ryan
every night. You know, it'sa lot of fun. You get It's
fun when you get to do thingswith your friends. And for me,
that was that era of this showwas will always hold a special place,
not that uh uh, not thatI don't love Nick, I do,
and and the second iteration of thisshow with him has its own special place

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and special meeting. And as Nickand I have you know, gotten to
work together as radio partners and honestly, you know, become become a friend.
Nick's a really good person. Ithink that's one of the things that
not a lot of people know aboutNick Ferguson. I think you can sort
of get the vibe from him alittle bit, but behind the seeing he
is absolutely the person he represents himselfas. And in this industry, that's

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that's a rarity. It's a rarityfor a guy like me to get to
work with guys like that back toback. You know, two genuine persons
in Ryan and Nick and contrasting stylesobviously, you know, Ryan was was
more of a driver and and nowI drive, and Nick's you know,
kind of the you know the obviouslythe former athlete and all that. But
it's it's it's fun. It's interestinggetting to know those dynamics. So it

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was fun to catch back up withRyan and get a chance to you know,
chat with him about about a fewthings on the state of Denver sports.
We go try and do that,you know, once a week,
give or take. I don't knowthat we'll getting around to it next week,
but we will try to do thatonce a week over the course of
the summer, and you know,and kind of get him back in here
a little bit to you know,to chat about some things. Five six
six nine zeros text line. Youguys want to get involved in this part

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of the show. I got afew things out there I do want to
touch on. We'll get to thosehere in a few Programming note. The
NFL's schedule release is going to benext Wednesday, only, the fifteenth.
The schedule will officially be released atsix pm Local that's mountain time, six

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pm Mountain time, so eight o'clockEastern. Most people who have been listeners
to the show for the last fewyears. No, we have the schedule
in advance. We usually leak itout kind of that day, but the
official release will be a coincide rightat the start of our show, so
we'll have everybody's reactions to it.Dave Logan, Big Alan, Nickferguson,
Bryan Edwards, myself, everybody willget everybody's reactions to the schedules and who

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the Broncos are playing, and whenwe already know who they're playing. We
already know where they're playing, wejust don't know when they're playing, and
that will all be released. Theteams usually get those schedules about Sunday or
Monday, and then the release showis on Wednesday. So looking forward to
looking forward to that, looking forwardto hanging out with you guys and being
able to do that. Next week, Yahoo Sports put out a list of

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the I guess best landing spots,best situations for rookie quarterbacks. I didn't
particularly care for this list, butwe'll go through that here in a bit.
I do want to I do wantto get into that a little bit.
We will get into some Bonux conversationwith Ryan a little bit later,
also some Nuggets conversation, as I'msort of interested to see what he thinks

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about what happened with Jamal Murray,what happened with the team, but what
happened with with Jamal Murray specifically throwingthings out there in the court. I
went back and looked at that,and I am flabbergasted. I cannot see
how. I mean, I getit because the NBA doesn't want teams to

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be shorthanded for their big draws inthe playoffs. That said, you can't
throw items on the court that couetinjured people. You just can't do that.
And Jamal mursh no does no better, not should know better, he
does know better, should have beensuspended for one hundred thousand dollars fives nothing.
And so I, you know,I sort of have a problem with
the way that that has played out. You know, in in in the

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last couple of days, I thisNuggets team doesn't look the same. You
know, last year you saw ateam that was hungry, you saw a
team that felt disrespected. Uh andyou know this this team doesn't feel that
way. They're missing some pieces.I mean, not having Bruce Brown and
having that energy off the bench istough, it is, And you know,

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watching them play, it doesn't feellike a team that's as hungry as
they were. It feels like ateam that's expecting things to be given to
them rather than going out and takingthem. And they took them last year
and they're not really doing that.And I get it. I don't want
to I don't want to denigrate Minnesota. I don't want to downplay what it
is that they've accomplished so far.They swept Phoenix, they're they're up to
and zero against Denver. They havea very good basketball team. The Minnesota

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Timberlves are a very good basketball team, and they've got a lot of length,
they're physical, they give teams problems. So I'm not I don't want
to downgrade them. That said,watching what the Nuggets are doing, they
don't look like they're playing at theirbest. They don't look like a basketball
team that is bringing what they broughtto the table every game last year.

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And it was tough because I wassitting there and I was watching you had
Rudy Gobert out and you still,you know, you still weren't dominating on
the rebounds, and you should havebeen. You should have been. I
mean Gobart is not the world's mostperfect scorer any stretch of the imagination.
But watching watching this team not beable to and certain players not be able

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to rebound the way that they neededto. I mean, Nicola and Jamal
got in there and got there,got their rebounds, even though Jamal Murray
was atrocious from the floor. Theygave up fourteen to nas Reed. Was
that the Nikia Alexander Walker got fourteen. Edwards and Towns went to town I
think they had was twenty seven apieceand they were giving up the rebounds.
I mean the Town's got twelve,Anderson had nine, Reid had five,

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Nikkel Walker had six. You know, if you're Aaron Gordon, coming away
with four boards and at games issad. You know, you had two
players in double figures on rebounds,one of them was your point Guarden,
and it was just, I don'tknow, it just looked listless. It
looked like a team that just Idon't know, they just didn't feel like
that they were there to win inthat regard. Peyton Watson was on the

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court for ten minutes and against zeropoints, one block, two boards,
and zero points. Reggie Jackson wason the court for ten minutes eleven seconds,
got three. Christian Brawn was onthe floor for ten minutes thirty seconds.
I got two points. Holliday wasthe only guy that had put appreciable
points up at thirteen and twenty oneminutes of playing. And then outside of
Aaron, Gordon and Jokic, Imean, you just didn't have any scoring.

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Porter only got nine, Murray hadeight, Pope had four. You
know, it's just it's a teamthat And then you know, you had
the final three and a half minuteswhere the bench came on and Zeke,
you know, got got a point, pick It got a point, Strath
got a couple of points. Butyou just you just had players that that.
And it's your home court, Likeyou got a score on your home

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court, you got a hold courton your own court, and you've got
you got taken oh two. UhSo now you're gonna really have to put
it in. You've got to becomehungry in order to turn this thing around.
And I I just I'm looking atthis team and I don't know,
I don't know if that if thisteam has it. I don't know if
they have what it takes. You'rein a pretty big deficit as it sits
right now. It's gonna be toughto come back for. But we'll see.

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It ain't over till till the falletiestthings. It has happened before,
five times, I believe, uh, since nineteen seventy eighth, give or
takes what it has happened. It'sjust not a regular occurrence. Probably the
best way to put them five sixsix nine zero. I did want to
talk about this article from Charles Robinsonof Y'ah, who's sports senior NFOL reporter
yet who sports. I like CharlesRobinson a lot. He's a he's a

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plugged in guy, and I likethe stuff that he you know that he
he puts out. I think thathe's I think he's a good eye for
football, and I think that youknow that he's plugged in. But some
of the stuff that he put outtoday in this article, I just I
just didn't agree with. And talkedabout the best situations for rookie quarterbacks and

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he goes on to the nuance setat the beginning when he says that what
are truly the best situations. Youknow, we can see failure coming or
process it easily in real time.Look at JaMarcus Russell, who's never going
to have a chance at fully developingwith the Raiders organizational dysfunction later that or
the Houston Texans with David Carr becauseyou could see that that offensive line build
was botched from the get go.Trey Lance's resume and then he was thrown

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out there to the you know,limited resumes, thrown out there to the
Wolves with the Niners and probably shouldhave been a guy that sat for for
a while. You know, MacJones had a defensive coordinator calling his plays,
Kenny Pickett's guy who probably should havebeen redshirted, like Zach Wilson,
et cetera, et cetera. Soget the idea. And so with that,
he ranked the best situation, bestsituations for this year's first round quarterbacks.

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And he goes on a nuance thatsaying we're not saying best team or
best roster, just the best confluenceof factors that can outline a path for
survival and success. And he didall six of the first round quarterbacks and
at number six the worst spot heranked Drake May and I tend to agree

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with this one to a degree.There's a template for him to succeed,
obviously, But Drake May is aguy who's jumping into a place that has
some dysfunction. They don't know theirgeneral manager, they have a brand new
head coach. He's succeeding a Hallof famer. They don't have a lot
of talent on the offensive side.Alex van Pelt, the offensive coordinator,

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has worked with successful quarterbacks before,but he had a very acrimonious departure here
in Green Bay from Mike McCarthy.He and in fact Aaron Rodgers was begging
for him to come back and McCarthywouldn't bring him back. And then he
had his Cleveland Brown's tenure where hewas fired at the end of last year.

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And that was despite having an offensethat had fared fairly successfully and going
through Howard many quarterbacks they went there, four or five of them. So
I get to run his own showin New England without anybody looking over his
shoulder. But that is an interestingsort of scenario there where Drake May and
Alice Van Pelt there in New Englandcoming in at number five. Mo Nicks.

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This is where he placed the DenverBroncos quarterback, saying that Sean Payton
had chosen his quarterback to build around. Nicks obviously has sixty one games of
college experience under his belt, noshortage of adversity on his resume. He's
mature players, saw a lot incollege. Drew some comparisons to brock Purty,

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which is which is certainly interesting.You look at the downsize, he
says is the supporting cast. Evenwith Courtland having a rebound season in twenty
twenty three, there's you know,you don't know what he is uh this
year, or if he's even here. It could get traded. You know,
it's still a possibility, as heheld out, we don't know what
Marvin Mims is. We don't knowif Greig Dulcic can stay healthy. We

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don't know if Tim Patrick can stayhealthy. They added Josh Reynolds, who's
really a rotational piece, and JavonteWilliams hasn't you know, put it all
back together since uh, since theinjury. So he just says Nicks need
to be efficient, limited his mistakes, and you know he doesn't have a
whole, whole heck of a lotof upper tier talent but you don't necessarily

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maybe need that in this uh,you know, in the Sean Payton offense,
you just need to keep the offenseon schedule, because that's that's what
it is. At number four,he has Jaden Daniels with the Commanders.
You know, Daniels obviously has apair of skilled white out else and Tara
McLaurin and Johan Dotson. Zach Ertzis there running back, Austin Eckler.
They added Ben Sinatt, Luke McCaffrey. You know, Cliff Kingsbury has had

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good moments in his career, especiallyearly in seasons. You look at what
he was able to do with KylerMurray, especially in their first season together
in Arizona. But on the downside, probably instant pressure and expectation to be
a day one starter, which Nixonmay may not have may obviously as to
Coby Brissette, Nicks has Jared Stidham, Zach Wilson. He's got to beat

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down in minute, excuse me,in Washington, they don't they don't have
that. There's nobody. It's Daniels. It's gonna be Daniels, and that's
kind of he's going to be forcedto shoulder the load, and that's gonna
be that's gonna be interesting. You'regonna have to figure out a way for
Cliff Kingsbury to get Jayden Daniels totake fewer hits because he does take off
and run, so you're gonna haveto get him to make sure he takes

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fewer hits because he's a guy that, at the end of the day is
going to have some exposure to that. In number three, they put j.
J. McCarthy to Minnesota Viking,so you've got a pieces around him
like Justin Jefferson, Jordan Addison,TJ. Hockinson, running back, Aaron
Jones who can be a receiver outof the backfield, and of course Sam
Darnold is there, so JJ doesn'thave to start right away. He could
sit for a bit and then youknow, kind of get going. You

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know, there's there's the downside ofthis is like you know, if Jefferson
does get the contract extensions back,he's gonna you know, they're gonna expect
to throw the ball to him alot. You kind of force feed him.
I don't know if that's something youwant to do to a rookie quarterback.
And obviously he's jumping into a Shanahanoffense, which is complicated and it
usually takes a starter about two yearsbefore they get to optimal level in that

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any quarterback about two years before theyget to optimal level in that. JJ
obviously very young and may not havekind of the edge that I think Sam
Darnl will have with having experience inthat offense. At number two. He
put Caleb Williams. He says thatyou know, the depth chart obviously is
stacked. You got Dj Moore,Keenan Allen, roll a donze to throw

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to Cole Comite, Jarrett Evert atthe tight end spots, DeAndre Swift,
Roshan john sa Khalil Herbert. Therunning back offensive line is a continuity.
He got a new coordinator in ShadeWaldron. The Bears have a decent defense.
Uh at his back, but comingin as a number one guy with
all that pressure, you are theguy. You're going to have to be
the guy. You have scrutiny likeyou've never faced, you know, and

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it's it's in a quarterback starved franchiselike the Bears, who you know,
they were the justin Fields. Imean, the best quarterback they've ever had
was Jay Cutler by far, it'snot even close. Kayleb Williams could could
break all of the Bears passing recordsand and do it fairly quickly without much

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effort, if he's anything like whatthey'd anticipated when they drafted him number one.
I sort of disagreed with this.He put Michael Pennix and it's this
is not anything about Pannix to me. It's a situation. I mean,
you've already created a situation by havinghim and Kirk Cousins there, and that's
that's gonna be its own, youknow sort of thing. You do have
some young players Drake London, KylePitts, b John Robinson, and that's

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you know, that's it's nice tohave those kinds of skill position players that
are you know, that are alreadythere. That said, you know,
you've got to You've got a quarterbackwho's coming in very celebrated and it's gonna
want to play, and instead he'sgonna be sitting on the pine for at
least two years like he is,unless Kirk Cousins get hurt. He's on
the he's on the bench because youcan't get out from that under that Cousin's
contract at all, it's a hundredmillion. It's just not happening. Uh,

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You're walking into a room with cousins, and that that's gonna be awkward.
His cousins has his pride and andthe way things is sort of played
out publicly, You're gonna have tobuild a rapport with players who are probably
building a rapport with Cousins to me. And then you've got a fan base
that if Cousins at all Falters isgoing to be, you know, pushing
for him to to get out there. They call this the Jordan Love plan,

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but I I mean, he's significantlyolder. Jordan Love was young when
he was drafted. Nick Pennix isone of the oldest quarterbacks ever. One
oft he'd be the oldest quarterback outsideBrandon Wheat, So I mean, I
disagreed with that a little bit.I probably would have put bow Nicks a
little higher, Michael Pennox a littlebit lower. But that's just me.
I feel like the situation here inDenver doesn't have the pressure that a situation
like Atlanta does. Even though youhave two quarterbacks there, you kind of

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created your own controversy by default,so it'll sort of be interesting to see
you know at the end of theday, how they navigate that. Appreciate
you guys been along for the ride. When we come back, we're gonna
check in with the Og the Godfather. Ryan Edwards, host of KIOE Sports,
going to join us, former cohost of Broncos Country Tonight. Get

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a chance to talk Little Bow Nixwith him. Broncos obviously way Ben to
Nucci. Today we'll get a chanceto talk about what that means, if
anything at all. I want totalk with him a little bit about the
Nuggets as well. You listen toBroncos Country Tonight right here on KIAWA take
fifty am ninety four ONEFM News TalkSports. Welcome bout to it Broncos Country
Tonight, as promised, the Og, the Godfather, as it were.

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Edwards rejoins the show, very veryexcited to be here. Your highness.
Well, look, I and I'vegot to I've got to apologize for the
disingenuous nature in which I got youon this show. See Ryan, who
I was basically a genius. Hewas doing a bit. I I called
to see if he wanted to comeon the show, and he did this
whole like bit or he was pretendingnot to know who I was, told

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me to lose the number, blockedmy phone number after that, and it
was It was a hilarious bit,but hilarious. But the block took too
long and I couldn't get back intouch with him, so I went through
the Make a Wish Foundation. Thereis no child named Jordi here wishing to
meet you. I just want toapologize in advance for tricking you into coming
on this segment. Hey man,I'm happy to be here, and I

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certainly appreciate the ny. Any timeBenjamin ol Bright wants me on the show,
I'm here. Well you know,I mean any other Sorry again,
new phone hoo, dis lose thenumber? It was? You know,
the Broncos today whittled down the quarterbackroom. Uh didn't she main is no
longer wrapping from the back in thatquarterback room. It is officially down to

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Zach Wilson, Jarreed' Stidham and ofcourse Bo Nicks. I think we all
sort of expected that, I think, with with what you have and what
you want to do, I thinkgiving Ben Denucci reps was sort of a
fool's error. At this point,you're hoping Zach Wilson is a reclamation project.
You're hoping bo Nicks takes the joband you have Jared Stidham there as
the veteran to kind of guide everybodythrough it. But what does Ben Nucci

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bring to the Danucci bring to thetable. Yeah, well, listen,
I think that it was kind ofa numbers game at this point. And
with Ben Denucci, it's not likeyou didn't understand why he was here.
You wanted to have experience in theroom. But before they added Zach Wilson,
where they have five starts combined inthe quarterback room in the NFL,
between Jared Stidham and Ben Denucci,right, I think it's interesting that Stidham

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is viewed as quote the veteran,but that's because he's been around the league,
whereas Zach Wilson has by far thelittle starts. Well now he does,
I mean, he has thirty threestarts. It's what I'm saying.
Off Up until Zach Wilson got here, it was a quarterback room that obviously
needed to be upgraded, and youupgraded with Zach Wilson. I mean one
way or the other, depending onwhere you come down on what you think
Zach Wilson still could be in theNFL. He's an upgrade, if nothing
else an experience. So you havethat, you added the first round rookie.

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And for Ben Denucci, like,what do you say you do here?
Now, that's the tough thing,and that's like not sure it intended
to be mean, it's just okay. Well, at most teams will keep
three quarterbacks, and most of thetime they prefer to do one on the
practice squad and then two on theactive roster. In this case, I
think that's a fascinating sort of campbattle discussion that we're going to get into

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of who's going to be the backupA and then are they going to keep
three quarterbacks? Because I don't knowif Jared Sidham necessarily is a fit to
be a practice squad player. Youcertainly don't think you could do that with
Zach Wilson. I think a lotof teams would go ahead and take a
run at him, even in oneyear on a one year contract. Well,
listen, we're seeing guys get beingplucked off of waivers right now at

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the quarterback position for fourth and fifthguys on a roster. So you don't
think in training camp somebody might say, you know, I'll take a flyer
on Zach Wilson. So for me, I think that's a fascinating conversation we
get to in this offseason. Yeah, well, I mean, I think
they'll carry all three through the ninetyman. It's when they get to the
cutdowns that we you know, we'llsee some shuffling. I would assume as
far as that goes, and theBroncos are hoping that Zach Wilson becomes a

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reclamation project. Sean pay Sean Paytonis hoping that that's another feather in his
cap. He's trying you know,a lot of what he is doing is
about the resume. It is aboutthe legacy. It is about I know,
I'm not going to make the Hallof Fame because I've got multiple scandals.
You know that I do have asuper Bowl ring. But look,
you got Coughlin and Shanahan, theygot two super Bowls and they're you know
not is So I think he's tryingto do the thing that no one else
has done when a super Bowl twodifferent teams. But I think he's also

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trying to add feathers to his cap. And one thing that Andy Reid got
was the quarterback whisper for all thereclamation project stuff he did, and then
he would ship those quarterbacks out formore draft assets. I you know,
Aj Feeley or Kevin Colber, youknow whomever. And so I think that
they're hoping that Zach Wilson so ofbecomes that. I don't think they envisioned
Zach Wilson as any sort of longterm starter here at Denver. I don't
think that was ever in the cards. I think that was always a reclamation

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project, stop gap starter. Ifwe need him, you know that kind
of thing, and we're gonna sellhim off later or you know, get
get a compensatory pick something like thatlater on if it does happen to blow
up. So I feel like thatthat's sort of the direction that they went
with that. Well, So that'sinteresting that you frame it like that because
and I'm not saying we always takewhat coaches in GMS say a face value,
but Sean Payton said right after thedraft something he'd learned from Bill Parcells

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is you just let him play,right, And so I think we're going
to see a little bit of that. We have. I think this expectation
that bo Nix is probably gonna winthe job if nothing else, because things
are going to be tilted in hisdirection, right, I mean, but
at the same time, if you'reZach Wilson, you have a lot to
prove. I love this opportunity forZach Wilson, Yeah, because where he's

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coming from, with the New YorkJets, with how bad things got there.
I mean last year, all therumors coming out of there about how
he didn't want to play and thecoaches, and he said, you know,
I don't want to play by thatoffensive line, and I I don't
know how much of it's true,but the reality of it is is he's
got a lot to prove. He'sa former number two overall pick. As
we had our discussion yesterday at aBroncos thing, I said, this is

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a guy that even some people,including our guy Tim Jenkins, thought actually
could have been the better quarterback ofthat class ahead of Trevor Lawrence. But
as we oftentimes see, it isabout fifth. It is about the coaching
you get. It's about the planyou have with these guys. And guess
what, in New York they've changedthe plan several times. They've also,
of course, we talked about GregKnapp and how big of a loss that

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was for him, A big lossit was for the committ community as well.
But but my point here is Ilove getting a guy like Zach Wilson,
final year of his rookie deal,and you just see what he does,
you just see what he can dowell, and they will, you
know, I don't know if thisis going to be and I'm using air

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quotes here in the studio, afair competition, the way the Bridgewater Locke
thing was a fair competition. Saidthe same thing about Lynch versus Trevor Simeon,
right, that wasn't no no,but but we said Paxson Lynch is
the first round or Trevor Simeon isthe afterthought. But Trevor just took the
job. He just took the job. So that's what I'm saying, like
Zach, Zach would have to gotake the job. I think that's what
I'm saying, which I'm not opposedto, but I don't think that that's

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I mean, they're fine if thathappens, if he comes out and takes
the job, but I don't thinkthat's their plan. Their plan is,
you know, we got Bonix,we have a reclamation project and we got,
you know, Steady Eddy. Youknow, it's not even a direct
negative on bone Nicks if he doestake the job, and I think,
I mean maybe if if bo playspoorly, then yeah it is. But
but also as a rookie training camp, I mean, drink it, throw

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a fire hose, all those kindsof We have too many guys that that
did come in too fast start andare successful right away anymore. And it
sucks because the art of quarterback developmentis lost. And the Jets even admitted,
they admitted that they made a mistakeplaying Zach Wilson the first year that
once nap, I mean, theycame out admitted they should have just read
shirted him that year and and gonewith But you know, we see too
much success too quickly, unfortunately,and so the art of the quarterback,

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if you don't have it, andit used to be the old Bill Walsh
rule was if you don't have itby three years, you're not gonna have
it. Bill Walsh is trying toconvince you not to waste a fourth year
on a quarterback. If you don'thave it by two years in the NFL,
now you're done. Well, they'relooking and that maybe even that long,
and that timeline is getting shorter.Right, it's a rout that right,
right, That timeline has shortened.It's shortened even for coaches too,

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right, because you're not you're buildingall the assets up for somebody else.
As a coach, you've got twoyears to prove that you belong. A
third year maybe if you've got ayoung quarterback or you're in a transition period,
and that that's it. After that, if you haven't shown that you're
the guy, they're going to findsomebody else who thinks they're the guy.
And once again we're seeing coaches gettingfired after one year or not. That's
not even talking about just the NathanielHackets of the world. That's even guys
like Lovey Smith down in Houston.You know, if it's David Smith,

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Nate Hackett, Urban Meyer, thatwas for cause. But you get the
idea, yeah, or Frank Reich, Yeah, I mean, these are
these are examples some summer vets orsome rookie coaches. But the point of
it is is teams don't have patients. And you know why you held it
because we see too many instances ofhits happening right away. Miko Ryan's coming
in and working out with the HoustonTexas team that didn't expect to have very

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much in CJ. Stroud, righthe came in right away and played well.
So it's a fascinating thing. Thefact is, though, that the
investment they made in Bonnicks a twelfthoverall pick, is enough to give him
a couple of years leniency. Ifhe was a second round pick, like
a lot of us, including myself, thought he was going to be,
that he would not be getting thatthat kind of lead. He'd probably be

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on the roster, but the pressurewould be lower too. There's a balance
here because the twelfth overall pick,there is pressure to show something. This
camp very true, you know,And if you're a second rounder, I
mean it would be like when DrewLock cab it. There wasn't any pressure
right away for you to show.Then you had Joe Flacco and Brandon Allen
and whatever, you know, whateverelse was was on that roster that died.
Shaking my head right now. Actually, the fact that you remember Brandon
Allen's pretty impressive. So you don'tremember the Brandon Allen air? What was

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your what was your favorite? Wasit? The couldn't cut the Winded Buffalo?
Or in Minnesota. Wait when hethrew the ball and in the buffalo
and it went, it went behindhim, went behind him because the wind
was so strong. Have you alreadyhad that with helping the golf shot.
I have. I've played in severeenough wind where I've hit a shot and
it went, you know, kindof straight up and almost back over my
head. Point being and maybe I'mjust a bad golfer, but the point

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being here, I'm not disputing thatI don't I don't think. I don't
think bon Nicks is gonna struggle.This isn't like I don't think we're coming
in here saying prepare for that.But you have to kind of prepare for
all the possibilities and the inevitabilities thatthere are gonna be some rookie moments.
I don't think any quarterback is goingto struggle in this offense. I mean,
you know, even Russ, whocan't do what Sean Payton wants you

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to do. Like I said thatwhen they hired shot him, like rush,
his whole offense is eleven to nineteenyards down the field between the numbers,
and Russ plays outside the night.He just does like that's what he
does. And so they were incompatible, but Russell Wilson was still top five
and touchdowns by the time the endof the season that rolled around. It's
not amazing the idea that yeah andeverybody was talking about he lost his Jay
was he was benched for him waslike he was he had more touchdowns at
patal homes. He wasn't benched forthat. He spentually the Insturr guarantees we
all know what really happened. Wedon't have to dap dance around it.

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Russ wasn't a fit for that offense. Does Russ stink? No? Was
Russ good in this offense? Also? No, that's why he's in Pittsburgh.
But with bon Nicks, like,I don't think anybody should look at
Teddy Bridgewater, even Jameis Winston.I mean, look at guy Taysom Hill
was productive in this offense. Ifyou are able to do the things that
Sean Payton needs you to do,you're gonna be successful in this offense.
And it feels like, you know, bon Nicks might not be a Ferrari

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but but but he's a hot acord. You know, he'll get you
a to B efficiently and hopefully hehas a career like a hand of a
cord. I'm just saying he's not. He's not taking you there. You
know you Nobody's like looking over therelike, man, I need me one
of those. But at the sametime, nobody's looking over there like,
well, I need you know,I need a new car. No,
yeah, I mean you got iton a Cord Toyota Corolla. I mean
you know those Ryan Edwards rental vehicles, if you will. I'm tried to

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rent the Lambeau. You're out there, you know, let's get the Corolla.
But guess what gas vilage and reliabilityany way, and then this is
a true story. Ryan literally didpull up the average gas mileage on this
see look at the right there andpoint that out here. We had a
great niece on Ultima Ultimate. Iwill defy you to really argue against them.
Ryan readed the Ultima and continued toshow me the gas mileedge we got

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out of it, and it wasit was like forty miles to the Gallay.
It was impressive. It was phenomenal. Ben and I'm not going to
go that far, but the goodand actually it was actually nicer of the
car I currently had at the time. One one and then the two very
quickly. Here I didn't have toworry about it. We we go out
at night, I park it onthe street break somebody shattered the window and

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installed the stereo. I don't knowwhy I keep laughing at that joke.
Give it doing that joke and nevernever stops, never never doesn't get a
laugh, which is why I keepdoing it. Anyways, back to bout
X for a second. I'm veryexcited about him. My my initial reaction
on Draft night was not as positive, but I I sat with it for
a second. I realized what itmeant for Sean Payton to make that move,

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the legacy behind it, and nowI'm all in. I'm all in
on it, and and and realityis, I do think he's going to
be successful early on. I saidyesterday to Alfred that I think Sean Payton's
gonna try to find a way toshow off with Bonnicks because he knows about
some of the nonsense that's being saidabout about bo Nicks and about the pick,

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and about the Broncos desperation for aquarterback. And and I mean,
we're gonna play some sound today fromEric Mangini, who talked about starvation,
And there's one sense to talk aboutstarvation. It's probably not Eric Manjeni.
I'm not gonna make jokes about MarkMangino, Eric Manngeni. Those are the
guys that probably not talk about that. You. You and I typically cannot

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make those kind of comments. I'mjust you know, lost weight, wow
on fire? All right? Drakeversus k dot kind of kind of thing.
Yeah, do baking me, Drake. You're Drake? Do you want
to be J Cole and just quit? He's the smartest guy in the room.

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I don't know. I don't knowwhat the demographics of this show to
nobody understand what we're talking about it. I was gonna say, but I
hope there are at least like tenpeople that are chuckling. There's one person
laughing at everybody else is like,I don't know who's what's a k dot?
Want to google? That? Isthat the Kansas Department of Transportation or
use bing? Uh So I'm excitedabout Bonix. I do think Sean Payton
is going to try to find away to show off a little bit with

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him, and you know what,that's cool about it. And then you
kind of touched on this a secondago. This offense thrives on efficiency,
right. It thrives on getting theball out quick. It thrives on knowing
where you're going with it, kindof before the balls even snapped. That
is really kind of Bonnix's game.And that's what Sean Payton is gonna so
to a lesser extent. And I'mmaking this comp because it's the most recent

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one that I think a lot ofpeople can remember. But I don't think
it's gonna be directly like this SeanMcVay Jared Goff when when Sean McVay got
to to LA he realized, youknow what, I can make this guy
work. I'm just gonna have todo a lot of the lifting for him,
right, and you guess what,they went to a super Bowl.
I think early on, as boNix is figuring some things out, I
think you can kind of take asimilar path. I think he could be

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like, hey, Shawn's Shahn's isgonna tell you in the headset, this
is what the design of this playis. To go right over here.
It's gonna be open, so justjust throw the ball over there. And
honestly, that might work for alittle while until while he figures out the
speed of the game, and SeanPayton has not been that guy. Though
he's been the shuffling person, he'snot been the I'm gonna make it hyper
fast so that we can do thiscause of So it'll be interesting to see

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if he adjusts to that. Iwant to get on I want to get
onto another topic here other than theBroncos, that's the Denver Nuggets. I
that watched that game too, andthat was the most embarrassed I've been to
watch a basketball game in my lifetime. That team looked like it did not
want to be there. There wasno hustle, no heart, no effort,
whining you were on your home court. They were without their best big
man. And to be fair,I mean, Gobart's not much of a

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threat to score, but man,he's a he's a rebounding machine, and
he's a shot alter. He's thedefensive heart of the team, right,
I mean, you know, andlike you still couldn't get rebounds. I
watched Aaron Norton stand there and watchrebounds go. You know, he could
have just picked up. It wasa team that looked listless. They looked
lifeless. You know. Michael Malone'sanger at the ref notwithstanding, and then
you have Jamal Murray chucking a heatpack and a towel out there. He

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should have been suspended. He shouldhave been suppen, let's be on,
let's keep it one hundred. Heshould have been If you throw a heat
pack on the court, you deserveto get suspended. I didn't think it's
a little less dramatic than throwing theTV on the court like we used to
do back in the nineties to thenineties. Yeah, well, listen,
nothing you said can be really arguedat this point. It's definitely not a
championship attitude or a championship looking team. And right now, Oh two going

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to their court. They are andI'm fascinated to see the response on Friday
night. But you look at thatgame and you say, well, once
it started a spiral, it justkept spiraling. I'm wondering about Michael Malone
and sort of how he's going tobe able to rally these guys and get
him mentally right. They got afew days I think that helps, you

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know, And initially it's like oneof those like, wow, there's a
lot of days off in between,but it's like, actually a lot of
days off for them to sit withthat is actually not such a bad thing.
I do think there's some soul searchingthat needs to be happening. But
more than anything, I think youhit it right there. Man. You're
you're looking at a team that isa defending champs, and they looked anything.
But have they plateaued with Michael Malone? Oh, I'm maybe a little
early, you know, in thedefense season, in second round when it's

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not over just yet. The biggerthing that I think I'll say, assuming
they don't win this series afterwards,is the the way they didn't address the
bench, probably as much as theyshould have. The fact is that they
kind of lean not They could haveoffered Bruce Brown more money, they couldn't
have. They maybe could have broughtback Jeff Breen Green, but let's leave

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that out for a second. Theywent young. They decided that their youth
was ready to go, Christian Brown, Peyton Watson. They brought Brack Regie,
which is great. Reggie has beengood this year, which is really
good. I think every game ofall of them, he's probably the one
that's been the most proficient. Ithink Braun is good for what he is,
which is a high energy defensive.I'm gonna mess with you, Faul
your physicality kind of thing. Afterfive minutes, you kind of need to
pull him off the course. Theydidn't address it right, They didn't put

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the investment into it, and thatwas such an important thing. You had
five He had six starters. Yeah, with Bruce Brown as six starters last
year. Now right now you havefive and actually because they're injuries, four
and a half, it's more likefour and a half to four. Hey
man, I appreciate you taking sometime out coming in here to you know,
to to to visit and and Bradthe og. We promise we'll get

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the oil painting hung Why that wasturned around facing the wall, I have
no idea. And the darts thatwere sticking out of it that that wasn't
me. I'm grateful behind us.I thought I turned that around on You're
pretty good on Twitter too. Notdone. Oh my goodness, you're gonna
you're gonna make that. You'renna milkthis thing for as long as you can.
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