05-30-24 Steve Atwater with Broncos Country Tonight

Episode Transcript

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Welcome to it Broncos Country tonight.But with all Bride, Dick Ferguson,
Grant Smith. Still getting used tothat face, man tall Favor, Steve
Atwater, Yeah, I'm getting usedto that face too. It's it's throwing
in. It still throws me likeit makes just smile like even more high
wattage, you know, because thebeard isn't like high wattage. You have
a high watted smile. Dude,you have like an infection. I'm just

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saying your face wasn't dirty at first, but you look but your face looks
really clean. Okay, but youguys didn't look dirty before, but you
look clean the way that you gotthe way that you guys are describing this
like, uh, Steve, itdoesn't look dirty. No, your face

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differends look dirty. I'm minderstand,but you look cleaner now than you have
in the past. It just itjust sounds wild to hear you guys say.
But listen to your point. Iwas out at practice today there was
some individuals who were seeing me forthe first time and they were shot.
There are some individuals who saw melast week when I attended practice who said
that they had to do a doubletake because they were they were not sure

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it was me, So listen,I get it. But just how you
guys describe it, it's hilarious.Why did you do that? Well last
week we were asking, wow,Greg, you can't do it too loud
over there. Yes, it was. It was the heart, that's that's

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what we call it. Like everyonewas wondering why, because Temper came in
and asked me, well, didyou do it because you screwed something up
when you were trying to track itand I was like no, and everyone
else was thinking I lost a betor something like that. Yes, I
planned it. This was something thathas been in the work for about a

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year, and I just every timeI got in the mirror with the clippers,
I would have a change of mindbecause I was like, oh,
I like how this looks, soyou know what, I'll do it in
two weeks. But I never didit. And then it took me a
year to make up my mind asfar as what I wanted to do.
Because when you grow, for me, I mean naturally, I have a
young looking face. So I grewI told Grant, I grew out my

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beard because I got tired of beingcarted that's why I grew it out.
Now he wants to be carted again, so ship off. No, no,
yeah, no one's carding me anymore. But everyone seems to uh like
like to look so uh the onlyone person, the only person who first
and foremost who needs to like it. She told me, don't cut it.

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I'm not cutting which which way doesshe go after your shaves? No,
she's still cool with it when Icame obviously okay really because there's not
the worst, like, hey,you should do it, and then you
do it, and then and thenit's like I kind of like it.
Look well, when I did itand I and I walked out of the
bathroom, her fate first facial expressionwas kind of like shocked, like she

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couldn't believe that I that I didit, But she was welcoming to it.
It was just the kids who werestill trying to come to grip.
Who is that He kind of lookslike that, Yeah, my six year
old. He's only he's only seenwith a beard. It's just new to
him. Yeah, but it's great. You know what, we all need
to change a little spice of life, you know, every now and again,

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right, yes, five, six, six, nine, Zeros text
line. A lot of stuff goingon. Uh, you know, can't
we sports spent a lot of timeon this Trump verdict stuff. I think
we're going to pass on that.We got Steve here in studio for an
hour. I do want to talkto you guys about the NFLPA proposal.
Everybody I've talked to hates it sofar, so I want to hear what
you guys have to say on Now. We've got Ryan Michael joining us seven
thirty five, George Shorty eight'll five. Of course the NFL six pack.
A little bit later, Uh,the NFLPA came out and proposed and extended

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off season where they sort of getrid of the OTAs and all that and
basically make training camp even longer.Right, And at first, I mean
there was a lot of media peoplewho were all over this, but everybody
I talked to around the league kindof hated the idea. Most of them
liked the idea of having June offbeing able to take their families get away
from football for a month even earlyCrossly, you know that having that unplugged

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time, as far as that goes, the NFL is a grind, as
you guys well know, the NFLgrin, and you know, I got
to thinking about a couple of differentthings. First of all, remember when
Vic first took over as head coachhere in Denver, and we also had
the whole so you got two extraweeks of practice, but then we had
the Hall of Fame if he hadan extra one. And you remember how
the veterans were by mid August.They they were they were mad, like
you could tell they were upset.And you know, I talked to some

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players, They're like, yeah,you know, if you've got especially if
you get like an old school coachthat rides you pretty hard, you kind
of want the time away to clearyour mind. I talked to some coaches,
I talked to some front office people, and they're like, yeah,
I like getting away. I likebeing able to unplug, get with my
fight. You know, I'm awayfrom my family all season. I'd like
to be able to get with myfamily and have a good solid month.
We can all go on vacation somewhereand just be around each other, reconnect.
So you know, in the sensethat this might be a good idea

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for body science, in the sensethat hopefully it produces fewer injuries the way
it's structured so far. Everybody I'vetalked to me, well, are they
saying that that's the reason why theywant to try it in terms of hopefully
reducing the number of injuries. That'sthe way it was presented to me and
Nick. Obviously you work with theNFLPA. Do you know do you have
any additional information on why this proposalis being proposed in the first place.

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The biggest issue has to do withhelp because the league is put a heavy
emphasis over the past couple of yearson the protection of players. This is
why they wanted to technically reduce thepreseason games and move them to a regular
season game. I had my ownopinion as far as why they did that,
and for me that was for morefinancial reasons. But they're saying this

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has a lot to do with whatthey did this past offseason when it came
to the hip drop tackle, whichfor me, in my time, I
had never heard of that before.So they're saying due to the information and
the research that they've done, they'retrying to move to do everything they can
to better help the player play longer. I mean they also it was this

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introduction of the Guardian caps right whichwe haven't even gotten into that conversation of
yet, but they feel as thoughdoing this would allow for more cohesiveness with
the players. But more importantly,think about the players who were switching teams
that allowed those guys to get groovedin right away. Because if you go
back to when Gene Upshaw was aliveand they first came up with this idea,

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I think back in eighty three thathey, they wanted to do something
that was different, but Jeane said, okay, well let's call it OT
eights And if we do that,I want to make sure that there's no
contact, the guys are well compensatedfor it, and it's voluntary and you
and I know Steve volunt Yes,yes, voluntary mandatory. So if you

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don't show up, it's going tolook bad on you. And we've seen
a lot of that take place.But this is still an ongoing conversation.
Like you said, Ben, someguys who are Ford, some guys who
are posted. I would like tohear some of the guys who are forward
what the pros of it are intheir opinions. Have you heard have you

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spoken to anyone who who's for itand heard their take on it? No,
I haven't, But I would onlythink that maybe they may be for
it because they may think if you'rea veteran player, it might allow you
an opportunity to make a roster whenyou probably wouldn't because now you have some

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time to showcase your ability and changethe minds of those evaluators and people making
the decision. That's the only thingI can come up with. Other than
that, I think it's real difficultbecause now you are kind of pushing things
to a point where guys like totake vacation and you're kind of taking that
off the table, and I feellike that that's great for players. I
think there's something to be said formentally unplugging a little bit, and whether

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that's players, coaches, front office, whatever, unplug it from the game
and reconnecting to to those around you. But I guess they're saying, hey,
you can unplug, specially if you'renot in the playoffs or Super Bowl
January January to July, You're you'reunplugged. I mean, isn't that,
like this the harshest way to saythat and make the playoffs? You're unplugged
anyway, Yeah, you're unplugged.And also guys coming back, don't.

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They don't have to be integrateds toshape when they get the camp because they
got a long camp. They don'tget the shape from camp. Here.
Here's the other things that talking toa couple of guys smoking cigarettes at training,
did you ever see somebody fire upa cigarette? Turns yes, sir,
yes, sir. Listen. Ican say when I first arrived here
from New York City, our firsttraining camp, I'm coming through the parking

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lot. I'm not gonna say whothis was, but I saw one of
my teammates in his car smoking Blackand Miles, and I'm like, we
are in Denver, Colorado, whereyour lungs are so important, especially that
first couple of weeks of off seasonconditioning, and he's smoking Black and Mile
and I was like, that's notsick, it doesn't count because that makes

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a difference. Serious right now.So once again, it's it's kind of
crazy how that works. But here'ssomething that talking to you know, former
players and a couple of current playersabout this this new move. If you
want to kind of increase training campjust a little, right, here's what

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happens. How do you control andout of control coach who wants to rap
things up right, like like thereare certain phases, this phase, one
phase soon, it's kind of abuild up. So what happens if you
were starting training camp a little earlierand you got a coach who's just like,
well, listen, I'm gonna takeadvantage of this time. And we

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know, like you go back acouple of years when Denny Green was alive
and he was in Arizona, playerswere draw sundition because they were in OTAs
and they had pads on it.It's like, how do you handle that
from p a standpoint, controlling thatcoach from getting out of control? Now,
the players report, I mean,that's that's what you have to have
to you have to have the playersreport that stuff, report the violations.
You've seen that Baltimore. It happensat Baltimore, happened in Jacksonville for the

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last couple of years, it happenedhere Denver. Oh yeah, players aren't
now let this stuff happen. Iput that stuff on Uh uh okay,
coach, We'll go ahead and dothis. See what happened to them all.
But see, see that's easy tosay, I mean with us sitting
in the chairs, because when you'reon the field and coaches are saying this
is what we're gonna do. Imean, I don't know about you,
Steve, Come on you. Evenif I protest, I'm gonna put that.

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I'm gonna put the pads on.I'm gonna put them on. Anyway.
You were a player rep, soI know you were in the locker
room. It don't put those padson up. No, I'm listen.
I'm just say, look, weare all grown in in this room.

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You make the best decision for youand you own it, and I'm out
see I'll go out there with mypads. So if there's a bunch of
people out there with their pads on, hey, that's what the group has
decided. Now, if some guyscome out there and as a majority that

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don't have their pads on, I'mgonna take mine off. You can got
a roll with a majority, youknow, in the locker room. Before
we get out there, I'm gonnasaying, who get out there. I'm
not putting on a Magic Mike showtrying to get rid of pads and whatever.
No, you just got your pads. You're looking around and see what
guys who decided to do and followwhat you know, you might have recommended.
If not, then you might aswell go ahead. But on we

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had we've seen the violation, thenthey do they lose practice days or trading
camp dat or whatever it is thatyou know, in the end, it's
it's not worth it to try todo it anymore. Anyway, it's such
a rare occurrence anymore. I thinklast time Kyle Shanahan got popped with it
once or twice. Hardball I thinkwas the last one to get popped with
it in Baltimore, not not inwith the Chargers. Yeah, I think
I have a problem with it becauseyou still wouldn't get a chance to really

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evaluate guys until close to the seasonbecause they still aren't going to play the
preseason games until that same time.And that will be when you really be
able to evaluate Keny these guys,especially defenders and you know, running backs
and uh, you know some ofthe linemen. You know, that's when
you'll really be able to tell.When they go against other guys who are

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in past going full speed, youwon't be you won't know anything from the
time they report the camp up tothat first game. But still at the
end of the game, a lotof questions. Proposal ostensibly is to quote
unquote help prevent injuries, which Iassume there is some data behind. At
the same time, it feels likeit'll grind people down. I'm gonna have
that, know, what's that I'mgonna have that on it. They've never

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done well, That's what I'm saying. I'm assuming there's some data. I
haven't seen any, so I don'tknow. I'm assumed. I'm assuming that
somebody somewhere has some data that suggeststhat this would be better for interview.
Yes, someone has some data thatwill not be with the public because because
that data may not be full ofproved back. This is the perfect way
to go for me. Here's what'sgonna happen. Everything is a build up

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to what the league is one tofour years. They're gonna get it that
they're gonna gets us. So isthat your is that your give and take?
Like, is there is there somekind of bargaining chip in here for
the players in order to give theowners that eighteen game season because the owners
want that. I don't think theplayers do your salaries getting divided by one
more game, you're not. Youdon't get more money, get less The

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players don't want more, right,because it doesn't mean as that they're making
more money. But remember what happenedwith the last cb A. Right,
the players said, okay, wellhere's what we want. Give up the
testing, yes, okay, ifyou want to find us for week fine,
but don't suspend us for week right, and the league is just like,
okay, if you want that,here's our we want an extra game,

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right, And foolishly the players gotwith yeah. And I was like,
man, yeah, you didn't getyou didn't get enough back, Yes
you didn't right, yes, right, you want right, you wanted some
of that mile held magnet. Right, what did you receive in return?
Like that was a perfect opportunity forthe players Association to say, look,

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if we're gonna do this, we'regonna give an extra game, why don't
we just go ahead and say,well, add more players for the roster,
or give more health benefits monetarily forwhen you retired, because we know
you're gonna have injuries. Right,That's what they should have done, and
that's what they still should be doing. And that's why this came out of
left field. And I'm like,well, wait a minute, I think
come out of left field. Itcame out back in February, but it

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really seems like the ramp up tothis came out of left field, and
I'm like, this doesn't feel likea bargaining chip here. Well, that's
the way he wants it, Sowhat are we doing exactly? In the
PA, they negotiate the current CBAfor ten years, so I think it's
still six years remaining on the CBA. So this new proposal, it still
needs to get to I proved bythe owners, which the owners are gonna
say, Okay, if this iswhat you want to do, here's what

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we wanted to retire, right.So it's a give and take, and
the league should know. The PAshould know from years past, you're not
going to get something from the ownersunless you're willing to give up something they
want. Eighteen nineteen games. Well, one of the things that I don't
necessarily agree with is that it seemslike when the NFL paid negotiates with the

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NFL and the NFL said, Okay, what do you guys want, it
seems like it's always less practice,less pads le's physicality, and that is
maybe good for individuals, but forthe team and teams getting better better football.

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I don't think it improves the gameoverall. It doesn't. And I've
said this for years because there's ahandful of individuals who come up with this
decision that the NFLPA makes, andideas like once that group decides, is
therefore disseminated to every player rep onour team and say, okay, listen,
here's what we decided. And I'mlike, whoa, whoa, wait

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a minute, we didn't decide anything. Yeah, And if the owners get
together, Palm Beach, wherever theyget together. I've always said this and
people looked at me crazy when Iplay. I'm like, well, if
the owners are getting together, theplayers should get together. And the argument
was, well, how do youget every single player in the same room.
The other part of this seat isnot every player has the same agenda,

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right, And this is something Itried to explain in the last CBA.
You have guys like von Miller orJJ Watt who at the time at
the last CBA or at the topof the craft and get paid pay a
lot of money, hey, andthe agenda for them is a lot different
than guys who are at the bottomof the roster are trying to make trying
to make you know, make thingswork or whatever else. They've got tons
of money, so some of thosebenefits don't affect them in the same way

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that it affects other guys. Andso that's the thing that ownership always has
on the players. Ownership is aunified front. They're just trying to print
money. And at the end ofthe day, the players are trying for
have all different issues and they arenot as unite it even though they should
be. And when you think aboutit, most of the players who have
the most influenced are the guys whoare made in the money, and there's
some of the things that they comeup with are not beneficial the guys who

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aren't making the money. And it'scrazy to be in the room when those
decisions are being made because the waythat it is being presented to players,
current players, there's a sum ofmoney and we have to choose between us
and them and them being the retiredplayers, and I'm sitting in the room
like idiots. At some point,you a here, now, you will

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definitely be over here, label well, you could be over there come training,
can you can be on that time. So it's just like you you
need to sit in the room andthink not as a current player, but
as a former player. But theydon't have that. They got that JG.
Wentworth mentality. It's my money andI want to know and that and
that is something that's hurting a lotof players in the form of negotiations,

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right, Like I don't think evenhurts the players because they are not unified.
And that's that's that's always been mygripe. It's the weakesh negotiating body
in professional sports because they're not unified. You have people. The income disparity
in football is huge, and that'swhy the NBA Players Association is more powerful.
That's why I say, well,Troy guaranteed contracts. They're getting their

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money. Yes, years ago,after Genum Sharp passed, Troy Vinson threw
his name in the head as faras being the leader of the PA.
They didn't vote him in because theysay, well, he didn't have enough
experience. So you know what Troysaid the other side, right, And
I'm like you idiots, he's aformer player. We need someone in the

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room fighting for us. But thisis where the leadership is always concerned me.
For years, are you thinking aboutthe group as a whole or a
small amount, because if there's adecision that's going to affect every single player,
every single player should be in theroom to make that decision. Slowly,
Guys, Steve Foley, Riley Odomsintroducted to the Broncos Hall of Fame.

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We're talking about that we came backplus the Super Bowl in London that
we wanted. This is Broncos CountryNight. Ka wait, welcome back to
it, Broncos Country Tonight. BenjaminAlbrighten, Nick Ferguson, Grant Smith here
with you. Hall of Famer SteveAtwater, Steve Foley, Riley Odoms getting
into the Broncos Ring of Fame.They will be I believe the thirty thirty

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eighth members of the Broncos Ring ofFame. How do we feel about those
two making it and who's the biggestsnubs so far? Uh? I feel
great about both of those guys.Man Steve Foley, everyone around town knows
who he is. He's active inthe community. It's one of the nicest

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guys you ever want to meet.In his chain, I got a beautiful
family, uh, and they werethere along with them today their practice and
it was such such a beautiful sightman. I love seeing him with this
grand kid, his kids, hiswife, everybody was there, and you
know, Steve only forty four interceptions. That record will stand forever, probably,

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especially because the way Phrazy is nownow. In the future, they
may change it to where, youknow, players are staying with teams longer.
Again, I don't think so,but I think that record will be
here forever. Probably. He wasforty four, forty three was a Goose
Gonsolin and Bill Thompson had forty.Champ Bailey had thirty four. Champ Bailey

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it was ten interceptions short of that. Uh, Steve, you were twenty
interceptions short of that at twenty four. I probably dropped twenty five. Yeah.
Oh, it's funny. Justin Simmons, by the way, who he
specifically singled out of saying I wantedJustin to break it. Uh, his
seventh all time as a Bronco withthirty interceptions. That's wow. Still for

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Justin Simmons was fourteen interceptions and shortbasically half his career, half his interception
short of hitting that market. Itis that that that indicates that back in
that time when Steve Foley was playing, quarterbacks were horrible. I was kidding,
well, no, because there's seventysix to eighty six. He played

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in the in the in the youknow, the Martyren era. Very much
volume passing though. Well, thegame was there, but it wasn't as
prevalent as it might have been inyear's pass Well, it wasn't thinking dunk
passing. I mean we were takingforty yard shots, you know. I
mean you had twenty passing attepts ofgame and for forty yard shots. Yeah,
they weren't passing the ball the waythey're passing it, right. It
was vertical shots. I mean theywere play action vertical shots. Yeah.

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But I'm just saying they were tryingto get the run game going most of
the time and then passing when theyhad to. It wasn't running gun,
No, it wasn't. And thisis not to take away from what Steve
Foley accomplished, which is marvelous feet. But when you when you think about
the fact that Randy Gratishaw is goinginto the Pro Football Hall of Fame and

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we have these two guys going intothe Broncos Ring of Fame, that says
a lot about what that team wasin the in the seventies and how great
the Orange Crush and how dominant thatthey were. That you you, you
take away everything that team's trying todo underneath, and you force them into

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some of this tonne of where you'regonna you're gonna throw the ball. And
by the way, if you do, we got guys in the back end
that's gonna take it away from you. So praises to all those guys who
are not in the Ring of Famewho were part of the Orange Crust,
because every time someone goes in theHall of Fame, someone goes into Ring
of Fame, it is paying homageto those guys and what they were able

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to accomplish. And uh, Iknow that they're so happy you. Bonnie
Chavis just went into the Colado SportsHall of Fame earlier this year, earlier
this year, and everybody celebrated that. And you know everybody's going to be
back to celebrate Randy gratishar Riley Oldhamsand my man Steve Foley. So have

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for all those guys. I haven'tgotten a chance to meet Riley Oldis.
Have you met Riley Oldom No?I haven't. Yeah, I haven't met
him yet, but I'm looking forwardto meet him. He's had heck of
a career and I heard he's aone one, very nice guy as well.
You know what, Steve, here'ssomething that's interesting. And I don't
know if you feel this way,but I've had a chance to be around
a lot of professional athletes and beingaround a lot of NFL teams I either

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playing and coaching, and this isthis is not me trying to be a
home or whatever, but it it'ssomething unique about being a part of the
Broncos organization. I go back towhen Shaves went into the Colorado Hall of
Fame. When I looked on stage, I saw Louis Wright, I saw
Tom Jackson, Billy Thompson, right, I saw all these individuals who I

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was like, wow, these dudeswere dogs in their desks and just they
all came back for Barney Chaves.And to me, that was symbolic of
family. And I said at thetable and Mark Jackson was around me,
Ron Egloff and some other players,and I looked on stage and I looked
at the table that I was sittingat it I was like, this is

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nuts. I say, wow,if I could go back in time and
tell the young and Nick Ferguson.He would be in the company of these
people, he wouldn't believe right,right, And that's the thing that's kind
of you know, fanboys for meto be a part of something like that.
What's funny is you guys mentioned BartiChaves because that was my pick for
the Ring of Famer that should bein the Ring of Fame. He's not
in the Broncos Ring of Fame.And I had either him or Ruben Carter

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I thought were the big two biggestnames that now obviously vonnal get in when
Vaughn you know, retires and allthat kind of stuff, but the two
biggest names besides that, they're notan active player to me, or Ruben
Carter and Barney Chaves. You know, it's funny that you bring up those
two names because I'll go offense.I think about McCaffrey, I think about
Steve Watson, right, those twoindividual extraordinary within their time. But once

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again, it's almost like a Hallof Fame. How do you get everyone
in? Right? That's that's verydifficult. How do you vote everyone in?
And what's what's the criteria do youhave to Because Coach Peyton said it
today that when he goes to certainstadiums, he looks around at their ring
of fame, and he brought oneteam in particular in that being the Washington

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Commanders, and like, well,I mean all these guys and they hadn't
been to that many Super Bowls?Right, which makes you so what goes
into that criteria? And you guysdid give me your point? Watching committee
each team has when Dave Logan,I believe is on the isn't he on
the Are you involved in that twostatement? The criteria though? What is

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it? I'm asking you? You'rethe Well, the criteria is one,
uh, they had to be withthe organization for minimum of four year years.
That's the unofficial POL rule. Yeahyeah, and that's that's the same
thing here and just have been agreat player, had to have made an

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impact. And obviously that's subjective.Otherwise, if it was something that was
you know, you you have tocheck certain box, it will be more
or objective. But it's the processis it's subjective because well, I think
Al Wilson, yes, he shouldhave been in a long time ago,

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but the same movie feel about RileyOldholms and Steve holy and I think if
he's not the next one to goin. I'd be surprised how much room
you got to think. I mean, I have to go back and look
at the statment, how much roomthat they have to put more guys in?
Are you just yeah, you gotplenty of room for that. You've

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got to us. You got GeraldPhipps uh and Pat Bowland. You've got
Red Miller, Mike Shanahan uh andDan Reeves uh. And then you've got
Champ, John Lynch, Simon Fletcher, Jason elm Rick up Church, Gene
Mingo, Tom naland Rod Smith,Shannon Sharpel Davis, Steve, Gary Zimmerman,
Dennis Smith, Carl Mecklenberg, Johnl Way, Uh Lewis Right,
Tom Jackson, Randy Gratis, sharCraig Morton, Haven Moses, Jim Turner,

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Billy Thompson, Charlie Johnson, PaulSmith, Franked Puka Uh, Goose
Gonsol and Rich Jackson, Floyd Littleand Lionel Taylor. That's the that's the
ring thing. Wow. And yougot some guys coming up, Chris Harris
h Key, Jamari Damarus. Yeah, you got some guys. That's see,
that's really crazy because you think aboutthat, no flies home. You

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just say, Chris Harris, youmentioned a key, and it's just like
if you could only choose one ofthose guys, which one of those guys
you choose in? I think Damariusto me, Vaughn and Damarius. I
think of the next two, Ithink, but what do I know?
Oh Man, not that I expectyou guys. Yeah, the Mary's first.

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I think Vaughn he's he's still playing, gonna get playing, He's he's
been playing in Buffalo. Yeah,it has to be what I think four
years or five years after. Yeah, you have your tired on that.
Marius was twenty eighteen, so Iguess he would technically be eligible. Now,
how do you give over a McCaffreythough, Oh yeah, yeah,
is he not in? He's notI should be in. But yeah,

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the guys like Party Chavis, RubertCarter for me, kem Lanair, Met
Lapsus. You know, there's someguys I think that have been overlooked over
the years that were great broncos thatthat got overlooked for various different reasons.
H Trevor Price. You know,probably a name that belongs Al Wilson,
probably a name that belongs in there. You know what I was yes,

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of course, but he screamed atme one time before. Yeah, office
couldn't stay on the field. Sowe were on the field against Kansas City
and uh Monday night football. Theymoving the ball. I had like sixty
yards and penalties by myself, andhe what, it's one of those nice
one of the knights. Man,come on sixty yards man. I hit

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Trick Green. I felt as Ihit him on time. The ref felt
as though after he threw the ball. I was like, that's a bang
bang playing ref. So that yes, I was fifteen yards of the spirits
there type of dable. Yeah,the textually I really want to know there
were There's like several people like,do you get a jacket like the whole

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thing? Yeah? You an orangejacket? No one one. You don't
get an upgrade to it, butan upgrade? What are we talk about?
The boss was a surprise, Hey, little trig that walmup money,
get an up hear, Yeah,said, let me upgrade you. They

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already they're already nice. They fitso comfortable. But I'm seeing the war
jacket. I didn't know if thatwas just like a you singer, if
it was like the ringing frames.Okay, all right, you got two
jack, that's say, how doyou decide there was a mustard yellow,
that orange? Like, how doyou decide which one? When you're like,
I'm in so many Ring of fames, I don't know which jacket to
wear. This's not like sometimes Iput all that, Yes you got when

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you got it like that. Youcan say that for ero sneeze too humble,
the flex. Yes, I'm saying, yeah, sneeze too humble.
For they never let me get ina Ring of fame though, never let
me get in one because oh mygoodness, oh for the jacket with no
shirt underneath it, like an RNBCfor the nineties, what arm pits on

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sweating all looking like I'm looking likeI'm about to go a new edition Iman
drew Hill one shoulder. You knowyou're singing, wind flowing, knowing you
been you would put some wow nameon the back of your jacket. I'd
put like gold embossing on it orsomething like. I would make the jacket
ridiculous by the time I was done, it would be ridiculous. But the

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front to back page in between whatwas a four page pull out? You
know what it would say on theback of his shirt would say, I'm
busyman on bright and I'm better thanyou. Oh my goodness, speak of
something trying to be better than us. Those stupid British people are back in
the news again. The London Mayorwants to host the Super Bowl. It's

(31:33):
not enough that he gets us tofly out there. Yeah, games there
at Wembley, which by way,did have a good time out there,
other than twist of my ankle onone of their cobblestone streets. But the
stuff that came up today London Mayorsaid he wants to host a Super Bowl.
He says, we have a numberof American games. I wanted to
come here because we want American sportsfans in Europe to come to London and
watch them, not just go toAmerica. The biggest problem here, however,

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is the time difference. Super Bowlin London, Uh would start The
game starts around six thirty Eastern right, that's eleven thirty PM in London,
and it's about a four hour game, so you'd have Wembley emptying out about
three thirty in the morning. Andif you've never been to London, they
shut down early, like they shutdown like an eleven PM. I was
trying to like have a good timeover there, and they're shutting the bars
down at like eleven p and I'mlike, uh, I'll just get started.

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Well, see that's not an opposite. Well you saw me the one
you saw one of those nights,man at Yeah, you turned over there.
You think that that is kind ofsomewhat of a hurdle. But knowing
as though this is the biggest sportingevent around, those pubs are going to
stay open. That's they can.I don't think they can. Why not.

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I think it's just like here wherethey got to shut down the sort
time. There's no such thing asgot to shut down. You know why,
because cash rules everything around me,and that changes a lot of opinions.
I don't know, man, I'mjust I think there's like some kind
of rules or something. There werea few places like some uh, there
was a I ended up a matterof fact, I think I still have
it. I had to go geta membership to the Palm Beach Casino in

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order to keep drinking at night becausethe casino was a twenty four hour deal.
They got you. I'm just sayingthat I still have the I still
have the membership card. Yeah,Well, listen, good for you know,
London trying to put that out there, and who knows, the league
might just bite if it's enough money. I don't think I think too many
American football fans out Let's be totallyhonest weekly one of our biggest games sporting

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advanced, but let's be totally honest. At a given super Bowl, the
ticket prices are higher than a giraffe, you know what. So most of
the time we see people in sponsorsand entertainers at those games, So do
not act as though they are regularpeople. Still super Bowl, for I
have two questions. First of all, why is the draft ring a top
hat? Second all you know whyis like I still think people will be

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outraged, like people will have thatOh no, we can't let it be
in London. Why would we dothat? You know what I can tell
you, if it's there, itwill sell out. You can have it
in the middle of Cornfield and Iowa. It's gonna sell out. I'm just
saying exactly. And you answered yourown question. It's dollars dollars, but

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is it worth more to have itover there? It's okay. The NFL
is trying to go global, right, They're doing that in certain ways they
want to go global, like theNBA. If you do that, you
don't just get an influx of Americanfans, you get fans everywhere else.
I'm wondered why they haven't put itin some of the bigger college football stadiums

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because the seating capacity. Yeah,because the seating capacity is way more.
I mean, the biggest NFL stadiumshave what eighty thousand. I mean you're
talking about like one hundred thousand andsome of these collegiates. Wembley seats ninety
thousand. So I can understand sortof you get more seats out of it,
that's more money. But you know, I just I don't know.
Yeah, I mean, I guess, but most of the money comes to
broadcasting anyway, the commercial space.It doesn't come from. That doesn't make

(34:58):
it. They make a difference.Is it more money At the end of
the day, if it's more money, yes, you did well, you
know what the man says, moremoney, more problems. Broncos Country Night
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