05-30-24 Hour 3 of Broncos Country Tonight

Episode Transcript

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Welcome to it, Broncos Country Tonight, Budge with All, Brian Dick,
Ferguson, Grant Smith, pure effortingPro Football Focuses. George Cheruri hopefully be
with us here in a few There'san interesting story out there. I don't
know if you are you familiar withDove Cleman no on Twitter, the Aggregator
account. I've known Dove for afew years. He started off as a

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as a forum poster or whatever.And there's apparently the guy who used to
run the account, the original actualDove Cleman or whatever, sold the account
back in February, and all thisstuff is starting to come out. There's
a whole bunch of stuffer. We'llget to do it in the NFL six
pack. But I was just Iwas curious if you've kind of seen any
or all this stuff out there sofar. But let's go out to the
KA with Commas Sparrel Hotline and welcomeback our good friend George Cheruri from Pro

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Football Focus. George, how youdoing? Are you doing pretty well?
It's been too long so we've heardyour voice, sir, But you know,
New York Giants camp is in fullswing and we wanted to get a
full report on their starting quarterback,Drew Locke. I think we lost George
New York hearing. Oh there wego. Okay, okay. You know

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what it might have been is thebandwidth here is being used up by by
something else. There's another New YorkGiant that did something really tremendous today,
and so you know, it's allof the bandwidth is being sucked up in
my area by the Darren Waller musicvideo. For those of you who haven't
seen it, but where's where's thatposted? Because I've seen it? Has

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anybody else seen this? You sawit? Yeah? I saw it on
the Instagram. Yeah, it's it'salready. It's so me worthy. There's
like so many parts of that thatare me worthy. What's your what's your
favorite? I mean the splashing wateron the flinching face when he's laying down
on the sand, Like, Ithink that's that's like that is going to
be my go to for the nextyear. It's so funny because I was

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watching literally like five minutes ago.I was watching it for the fiftieth time
today and I noticed how in thatI mean, that last scene on the
each is one of the greatest cinematicachievements of all time. And what I
realized is that when he's in thewhen he's laying down, when when the
waves are slashing up, he likehe's such a bad actor. His eyes
were open and then he's like closingthem and squinting because the waters like you

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know, creening into his eyes.It is, it is really, honestly,
the only thing that could have madeit better is if he wore one
of the really awful New Giants uniformssomewhere in the uh in the music video.
But it's a microcosm of the Giantsas there was everyone. It really
it really that scene, like it'sreally going to down a lifetime achievement of

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war between that director and Frederico Fellini. Uh for for all time, great,
for all time, great cinematic performances. All right, It's it's honestly
like if you when people say thisleague, that's what they This is what
they mean, right, like youjust you could not write this script,
mean, George, I mean Ithought there were there's a point where certain

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things should be off limits, butafter seeing the wall of videos, like,
well, nothing is off limits.You're getting a divorce and you're making
a music video about it. Imean, there's someone I saw one comment
that I felt was funny, whichwas, if you put this much effort

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into the marriage, maybe it's justgoing Wow. I kind of have to
I kind of have to agree.I look, I just I didn't have
a ton of respect for Darren Wallerafter last season, but given what he
had been through and what he hadovercome as a human as a human,
I had some respect for him.That has has gone out the window.

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Unfortunately. Someone needs to check onhim. I hope he's got some friends.
Because the level of auto tune thatwas put into that music video,
he's not right, He's not okay. Yeah, there's so much autotune.
I couldn't tell if it was DarrenWaller singing or Optimist Prime. You know.
I at the uh, at theend of the day, I what

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would possess someone to do that?Like what like if Darren Waller's always had,
you know, some issues and Ihope he gets the help he needs.
But right now, you you putyourself out there. You this isn't
a situation where you you know youyou're off the side, you need some
help. Whatever. You put yourselffront insteader by making a music video.
Yeah, and there's so many opportunity. Here's the thing that I always like

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to think about is like going goingthrough and like thinking about the decisions made
along the way. So how longmust that have taken to put together?
There were so many opportunities to belike, you know what, we're just
let's just not let's just not doit right. This is not something where
like you make a snap decision tostart it and then you you have to
follow through, right. It's notsomething where you did it in one day,

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like you had multiple days and eachday I'd say, for let's say
it took two weeks. Okay,not the greatest song of all time.
Let's say it took two weeks,fourteen straight days. You woke up,
I went to bed, and you'relike, yep, I'm putting this out
there. That's that is the thingthat is so concerning to me. What
a day? What a day?I mean's so much great Twitter today was

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was really on one and for itbeing this much of the off season,
it was great. I mean,we had we had people crowning the Chicago
Bears with the Caleb Williams throw Allyou need is one. We had hard
knocks, news we had a thirtyfour and oh, it's just been an
incredible day on top of all theDarren Waller stuff. Yeah. By the
way, according to Waller's this wholeprocess began on February third, so this

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is like two weeks. God's beengoing on for months. Oh my god.
I mean that is just so sad. It's honestly so sad. I
look, I'm in a happy relationship. I'm getting married in August, and
congratulations, you know, if thankyou, and look, if for some
reason something were to happen, andyeah, obviously you know, I'm sitting

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there, I'm single, and I'myou know, sad. There is there's
a bazillion things I would do beforeI would even consider something like that.
It's honestly, it's incredible. Idon't know, man, I don't know
how to put it into words.Well, here's something I hope that you
can definitely put into words. Withthe NFLPA looking to finalize or proposal that

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would change the way that the offseason is conducted. Are you a fan
of the whole idea of moving awayfrom OTAs in favor for more training camp.
Yeah, I was going to say, could they could they put forward
a rule on the off season aboutwhether you can release music videos because that

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that would probably be a bigger issue. But I think, you know,
generally, I think yes, Ithink OTAs are a little look. I
think the positioning of them is isexciting. It gets fans a little involved,
It gives you a few clips hereand there, gets the team together,

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and I think that's important. ButI'm not sure it contributes a ton
to you know, the play onthe field. I don't think it's a
huge deal either way. I'm verypro player in these things, so I
would really lean on, you know, going to your top players, the
guys that are that are really makingthe league worth watching, and say,
look, what do you guys wantand what's best for you guys, and

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trusting them as people that want tobe at the top of their game.
And then I'm really trying to acquiesceto that, I think being as pro
player on that stuff. Same thingwith the schedule, right like go to
eighteen games given two by weeks,like anything you can do to get the
players in a better position to perform. I am one hundred percent on board
with talk with George Herory Pro FootballFocus. You know, it may not
be the visual poetry that was theDarren Waller music video of which is right

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up there with things like cinematic achievementslike Citizen Kane and the music video for
the Thong song. But hard notis going to feature the Chicago Bears this
year? Is that is hard knocksomething people still anticipate. And where the
Bears the right choice? I thinkthe Bears were one hundred percent the right
choice. Now, look, Ithought last year it over promised and under

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delivered. It was just a hugeyou know, oh look, we're gonna
have to make up for Aaron Rodgersbeing kind of mad about this and and
really, you know, give himthe full treatment, and it was it
was the glazing of the highest proportion. But I think this is the right
move because there's going to be somuch excitement for Bear SAMs. Everyone around

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the league, if you're a Bearsand or not, has some sort of
opinion on Caleb Williams and so Ithink people will be will be engaged and
want to tune in to see that. And I think it's good to have
a younger team, like I justas big of the star as Aaron Rodgers
is. I think getting the youngergeneration into a little bit more is exciting.
I wish they had kind of amore interesting coaching staff, you know,

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to be honest with you, Ijust don't the flues being loose is
not is not getting me too excited. So that's the only kind of downside.
But you know, for you haveto pick a team that's kind of
on the on the come up,and I think they're a great one.
All right, George, I haveto ask you boy this because I saw
this a couple of days ago.According to Pro Football Focus, they had

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the Broncos ranked as one of theworst rosters in the league. So I'm
going to give you an opportunity totell the audience as to why. And
then also with that being said,are there any bright spots to that particular
ranking the right spots? Well?You know, look, I think what
I would recommend is, you know, picking up a PFF subscription differ plus

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subscription. You can see the gratingfor all the players. You can go
look at the lineup for post startinglineup and you can see and you can
compare it. And if there's anargument to be made, you know,
I think the tough thing is youlook kind of across the board and how
many elite players are there, howmany, how many very good players are
there, There's just not a lot. And you know, oftentimes we'll talk

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about teams with really good rosters thatdon't have a great quarterback, and you
say yourself, Okay, well,you know, how much do you want
to knock them for that? Butthis is one of those situations where you
just don't have a very strong rosteracross the board and not a great quarterback.
So I really do think this isrebuilding. Look if boat Mix comes
out and you know, overperforms dramaticallyand you've got you know, you've got

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a guy that's in the running forRookie of the Year, then a lot
of the players around them are goingto look better and the team is gonna
be better. I think the toughthing is that if it's the other way
around, says he's a rookie,Riety struggles a little bit, I think
it's gonna you know, it's gonnalook worse. Now. The one I
think bright spot here would be you'rein a situation where expectations are gonna be

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nice and low, and sometimes youneed right. I think expectations for the
Bronx have been so high recently,and of course they've underperformed them. So
you know, for once, Ithink maybe there'll be a little more reason
and it'll give some guys, youknow, a little bit of an opportunity
to outshine what people think of them. One of our texters suggests that Darren
Waller had a missed opportunity here todo the awesomest thing ever and give Drew

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Locke the rap verse on his thingthat he deserved. Maybe we'll get that
in the remix. Nationally, theBroncos defense has been a bit remixed here.
There's no Kjack, No justin Simmonsvon Miller going a few years ago,
as thing is different top to Bond. What is the national perspective of
where the Broncos defense, which hasbeen much vaunted over the last few years,
is now. Yeah, I don'tthink there's going to be a lot

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of a lot of people worried aboutthem. I think there's going to be
some circling on the calendars. Look, if you're thinking about you know your
your fantasy strict the schedule, right, I think you're looking at the Broncos
as an opportunity to put up putup some points and year they did buckle
down a little bit, you know, in the second half. We talked
about that a lot, but theywere not a good unit last year.

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And to your point, a lotof guys that you're used to seeing are
not going to be there anymore.Look, I think pattic Serutan maybe the
best corner in the league, youknow, And it's going to be kind
of a bummer because I don't thinkit's going to matter. One of the
things, the secondary is that youknow, we've studied and published a lot
of things about, is that it'sa week link system. So if you

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have weak links in it, itdoesn't really matter. If you have a
really strong guy there, you're goingto get you're gonna get cut up.
And so look, I think it'sgoing to be it'll be again to look
on the bright side of this,it's going to force the offense to try
and put up some points. SoI think you're going to see what some
of these guys have, because ifyou're just gonna sit there and run the
ball the whole game, you're gonnalose i, you know, thirty points.

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So I think you'll have to seea passing offense with you know,
with Seohn Payton and bow Nix sortof try and figure itself out. George,
is it safe to say that whiletwenty twenty four there may be a
lot of hurdles and challenges that theBroncos have to endure because they're trying to
revamp the team, they have ayoung quarterback who's really inexperience that twenty twenty

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five is kind of that year forthem where we can see these rankings and
the Broncos jump higher than their thirtysecond ranking. Yeah, I definitely think
it's a year or two out.But remember, you know, the rankings
don't matter, right It ultimately ishow you play on the field, and

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every year there's a couple of thingsthat surprise you. And you know,
if it were if it were justabout how people felt before the year started,
then you know, you wouldn't havethe Lions from a couple of years
ago. You wouldn't have the Texanslast year. There are always some surprises,
and you know, it really comesdown to the quarterback, and at

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least going into the next couple ofyears, there's an unknown there. Right
think for the past past two years, I'm like, hey, we've got
this guy that's kind of washed out, you know, like, do you
think he can turn it around?Here? You've got a guy that's relatively
young, and you know, we'llsee maybe that that is the right mix.
And you know, there's there's guysthat tem Payton has gotten to a

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Hall of Fame level that people necessarilydidn't think would be you know, would
be at that level. And I'mobviously talking about Drew Brees. So we've
seen it happen before, and soI would be you know, it's important
to be optimistic. I want togive these guys a chance. But I
do think in all likelihood it's acouple of years out before your year back
in trying to compete in playoffs,especially with the AFC being as strong as
this. Well, George, ourproducer, just got back from Ohio.

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He did not do any skyline.Chilly was out there so obviously saved a
few years on his life by bydoing so. But as we know from
following your recommendations, but we appreciateyour time as always and and look forward
to getting that Wall or Drew Lockeremix on the books soon. Yeah,
that is a great call shout outto whoever that was. Will Maybe he
can put it together for us.It was on the text line. So

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we'll lead to three zero three toto come back with their their best production
skills to make this happen. George, we appreciate it as always. Absolutely
take care, George Trury. ProFootball Focus, the NFL six pack.
Can we come back? Welcome backto a Broncos country tonight, Benjamin ol
Brighten, Nick Ferguson, Grant Smithhere with you, fabulous mustache. I'm
voting for Grants Smiths mustache for president. That's why im voting. I'm writing

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it in anything other than these twocandidates. All of them, all of
them dumped the whole slates. Wewere having a conversation at Brown and we'll
get into it too much, butwe were having a conversation near the break,
which makes me need an NFL sixpack. It's time for the NFL
six pack. I'm going to traina lot of beer. Insight and insight
information you can't find anywhere else.No the top six NFL headline, What

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well, what an off season theyare having In Kansas City. The Chiefs
defensive lineman Isaiah Bugs turned himself intoTuscaloosa County, Alabama jail on Thursday,
A day after two misdemeanor warrants werefiled against him. He's booked and released
on six one hundred dollars bond a. Bugs now faces a June thirteen court
hearing. The bbr C released thevideo of reporter Brian Henry asking Bugs for

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a comment after his release. Bugsput his hand on the camera and said,
don't walk up in front of me. Susker police accused Bugs of mistreating
two dogs, a gray and whitepit bull and a black Rottweiler, who
found an he screened in back porchwith no access to food or water.
According to court documents, both dogsappeared malnursed and neglected, and the residents
appeared to be abandoned. The pitbull had to be euthanized. Bugs agent

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Trey Robinson has denied the charges.An alleged as client as a victim of
an ongoing subversive campaign to quote forcethe closure of his Hookah lounge. Bugs
signed a futures contract with the Chiefsin February after spending time on their practice
squad. Late last season, KansasCity's had controversy with comments from kicker Harrison
Bucker and from the actionlessly driving incidentfrom Rashi Rice already. When we think

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of a Kansas City Chiefs offseason,why, it is a very extraordinary one
that's brought a lot at tension andthe most negative way that you possibly can
with three players being in the mediaand with bugs. I'm surprised in that
story you didn't lead with Peter somehowgot in by saying something about this particular

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incident and not to throw any shadeto bring up anything from the past.
The moment you mentioned cruelty to animalsand pit bulls, automatically I thought,
Michael Vick, I shouldn't, butmy mind went there right away. Man,
it's crazy that what's happening with theKansas and Chiefs. And I know
everyone talks about when the team winsthe championship about the hangover. This could

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be the worst hangover that the Chiefshave ever experienced, and that could be
one team that's saying we can't waitto get the season started. That way,
we can hear less about the playersoff the field and more about what
they're doing on the field. Yeah, Andy Reid is no stranger to shepherding
a team through a tumultuous offseason witha lot of controversy. The Philadelphia Eagles

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and the whole Tarrell Owens thing wasgoing on. I mean, the attention
was everywhere, so ay Reid's dealtwith it before and certainly knows how to
deal with it accordingly. I justwonder if any of these distractions will end
up ever affecting Kansas City in anyway. Two former Broncos kickers in hot
water. Two women are suing kickerBranda McManus and the Jacksonville Jaguars, alleging

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McManus sexually assaulted durned during the team'soverseas flight to London last year. According
to court documents obtained by ESPN,the two women, identified as Jane Doe
one and two in lawsuit file FridayDuval County, accused McManus of rubbing himself
against them and grinding against them.Also accused of Jaguars the failing to supervise
McManus, failing to create a safeenvironment for staff serving the team. They're
seeking one million dollars and demanding ajury trial. Excess of one million and

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demanding a jury trial. McManus's attorney, Brett Galloway, says that they are
absolutely fictitious, claims de monsterly falseallegations made as part of a campaign to
de fame disparage an NFL player.We intend to aggressively to friend Brennan's rights.
The women all represented by Tony Busby, who, for those who remember,
was the attorney who represented the womenin the DeShawn Watson case. The

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Jaguars acknowledged the lawsuit in the statementMonday night, saying they're aware of the
complaint. They did not resign mcmusthis offseason. He signed a one year,
three point six million dollars deal withthe Washington Commanders back on March fourteenth.
Both women were working as flight attendantson the Jaguars September twenty eighth Atlasa
Air Worldwide charter flight and alleged theflight turned into a party and the McManus

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recruited three other flight attendants to theparty, passing one hundred dollars bills encouraging
him to drink and dance inappropriately forhim. The NFL placed a strongly worded
letter prohibiting alcohol on team flights toand from after Todd Downing got a duy
returning from a game on a flightafter being on a flight where he ostensibly
got all the alcohol a few yearsback. First of all, the private

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flights, you've been on a numberof these chartered flights, how many of
those turned into parties? And doyou think that this is It's tough to
say because we don't want to,you know, we believe, disbelieve,
We don't know the facts. Butdo you think these allegations are credible?
Well, first of all, everyflight when you're coming back in is a
party of some sort, But itdepends on how out of hand that party

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becomes. Only in my in mytime in the league, this is when
you know alcohol was being served insmall amounts. Now, the way the
rules are now, like you stated, things are a little different. But
what happens on the regular commercial flight, it's different. When you're writing on

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the road to flight, it's entirelydifferent. As far as allegations of concerned,
I really don't know, because thisis one of the reasons I'm careful
when I'm around any other female that'snot my wife about hugging someone not knowing
it, because you may hug thatperson and they may feel a little offended
because they didn't agree for you todo that, and they recall that some

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kind of peoples saw and you think, you're like, wait a minute,
I just hugged you. That's it. So I don't know about these allegations.
You hope that they're not true asfar as Brendan McManus is get concerned.
That's the only way that you lookat it. Right. McMahon's obviously
a long time kicker for the rockcous What one of the interesting things that
you were talking about being careful aboutother women that are not your wife.
You gotta reeves, by the way, when he poses for photos, he'll

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take his arm and hold it outbehind so it looks like his arm is
around you for the photo, butwon't actually touch anybody, just to make
sure that he never has any ofthat kind of stuff come up. You
know, it's really interesting too thatBuzzby is the attorney on this particular case
and knowing as though it is anallegation against another NFL player, and we
know how everything worked out with DeshaunWatson in that whole situation. But I'm

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hoping that this is one of thosethings where it was it was red wrong
way and that was it. Ican tell by the look at your phase
that you don't think that that maybe the case, but it's always really
tough when you see guys in thisparticular situation. Yeah, I hope this
situation is adjudicated equitably for everybody.Three quite a little bit earlier, but

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I'm gonna get back into it here. The NFL's media is Tom Pella Sero
is saying the NFLPA finalizing the proposalthat would radically change OTAs as early as
twenty twenty five. The NFL's currentnine week offseason format operates in three phases
and last from early April to midJune. The first two phases largely consists
of strength and conditioning and limited onfield drills, no offense versus defense or

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one B one's OTAs. Organized teamactivities are a series of voluntary, non
padded practices that begin during Phase three, that's mid May to early June.
Mandatory three day mini camps typically takeplace after the final OTA's, but some
teams conduct the practices before the finalweek of activities. Players then go on
summer break sometime in mid June beforereporting back or training camp in late July.

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Purpela Central, the NFLPA wants toeliminate voluntary on field work during the
spring. I favor of a longertraining camp wrap up, Players would report
to the team facilities in mid Juneto early July rather than late July.
Not immediately clear whether all all seasonswould the sessions would be pushed to after
the springer, just OTAs and thework that requires being on the field.

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A formal proposal is expected later thissummer. What do you think again,
where do we come down on thisproposal to report to training camp in mid
June. Yeah, that's always toughbecause both players and coaches kind of a
lot for a certain amount of timeto just kind of decompress and get their
minds ready for training camp. Mybiggest thing is if you allow more time

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from training camp, that's more timeto kind of rap things up. And
that's not to say that every coachis the same, but you have to
wonder what will this PA in theleague agree on when it comes to these
types of issues where a coach maytake things a tad bit too far because
he knows he has more time withthese players and you can just wrap things

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up. That's kind of my ownconcern. Yeah, it'd be interesting.
Everybody I've talked to and did aninformal poll from players to coaches to front
office. People hate the idea becausethey love having that time off right then
to unplug reconnect with their families.So it'll be interesting. I think the
bigger thing here is what is theNFLPA doing here in terms of, Hey,
we might be willing to conceive thesethings in order to get certain other
things back from maybe ownership at thenext collective bargaining. Well, be careful

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what you ask for, because Ijust get them. You just might get
it for Cheams are thinking about lettingsafety justin Reed handle kickoffs, keeping Harrison
Butker from having to make tackles,and the revamped kickoff rules, but Sean
Payton says he has no plans touse a skill position player to do that.
Say quote, I don't want oneof it every four kicks to the
forty yard line though, because hekicked out a bounds, but he's just

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been there to make a tackle.I think you'll see a lot of change
in every one of us. I'mjust as anxious as you are to see
it or trying to go through it. The most jarring aspect of the new
kickoff rules continue to be nineteen ortwenty player standing still after the kick until
it's caught or touches the ground insidethe zone. Special Teams coordinator Ben Kuwika.
Our special team's coaches were practicing it. They had the officials in yesterday.
They kind of went through all therule changes, but specifically spend a

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half an hour on it. Iwould say the one thing for you,
the kick has made no one moves, and when it's caught, we all
move. I would liken it tobe on second base and tagging up you
never tagged up on a fly ball, might be a little bit interesting to
see what timing wise that becomes asyou wait to move. Teams say,
there's gonna be a lot of stuffgoing on with the kickoff role. A
lot of teams are expecting a lotof scoring off this. What do you

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think about the idea of using askill position player, i e. A
linebacker or safety to kick off.I really don't like that concept because for
me, if you have you gothrough the drills and fundamentals of teaching your
kicker, and I guess this wouldbe Will Lutz how to properly place the
ball. You give your team anopportunity to get down and make plays.

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Those guys up front it's can youwin at the point of its time,
get off the blood and actually makea tackle, and you're you're right.
Why put a skill guy in thatposition just with the hopes of, hey,
maybe he's going to save us.No, t's those those kickers how
to kick, some of those guysmaking an enormous amount of money. Put
them on a tackling dummy. Showhim how to kick, show the tackle.

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Yeah. Fair. I thought itwas interesting, And I talked to
a coach who said, if you'rea linebacker of safety, right now is
the time to start practicing kickoff,just a kickoff portion of it. See
if you can make yourself an addedweapon to stick around on a roster.
I mean, I don't like thatbecause now I can see a team going,
oh, we got a safety whocan kick off, Maybe we don't
need a kicker, yeah at all. Well, you still have to kick

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extra points and field goals. Butthey could say, well maybe if the
tip shots, that's probably for two. We're four down to do now.
Brandon Staley, we talked about ita little bit older. The London mayor
wants to host the Super Bowl.The subject came up today because the London
Mayor of course, said he wantsto host the super Bowl, among other
Internet national events. Study con viaThe Athletic said, the super bowls really

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important for us. We have anumber of American football games and I want
it to come here because we wantAmerican sports fans in Europe to come to
London to watch them, not justgo to America. The biggest problem with
playing the super Bowl in London comesfrom, obviously the time difference. The
game would start around six thirty pmEastern, that's eleven thirty pm Eastern in
London and last about four hours.That would be odd to say at least
have Wembley Stadium emptying out about threethirty am local time. Plenty of American

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fans would also regard eleven super Bowlis perhaps a bridge too far and the
effort to globalize the game, althoughonly a small fraction of domestic fans ever
go to a super Bowl in theirlifetime. Anyway, even if it is
a quintessential American event, it's notlike the Olympics at World Cup, where
well, you know, all theteam headquarters in the USA. What do
we think about a super Bowl inLondon. I'm not opposed to it.

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I like the idea because I feelas though regular ticket holders, who are
season ticket holders, those are notthe individuals who are buying the higher priced
tickets to attend this particular sport events. We know those tickets can be anywhere
from ten thousand to twenty thousand plus, right, So usually WHATBC is a
promotion of all the sports celebrities orwho's who in the music industry at these

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particular games. And not to saythat you have to do it every single
year. If the league decided todo it once and they could do it
like four years from now, tome, that'd be awesome because now that
takes that game like globally literally.It was brittil too, who knows.
Dove Cleman's popular NFL adjacent Twitter accounthas posted rumors and occasionally outright falsehoods over

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the years. That happened again Mondaywhen his account congratulated Raiders owner Mark Davis
and his quote girlfriend on her pregnancy. The problem Hayden Hopkins, a former
search to solet dancer isn't dating MarkDavis, the baby isn't his, and
Hopkins called Cleman's claims wildly untrue.After that Now to Lead, a post
went viral Questions began to circle aboutwho actually controls that account, which posts

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nearly two hundred ninety thousand followers.Jack McGuire posted the Cleman had sold his
account this past season. When askedTuesday whether he sold his account and whether
there's somebody else running his Twitter accountvia email, Cleanan told Front Office Sports
respectfully, I can't comment on thatTwitter account. Clemantal Front Office Sports back
in November that aggregating NFL content wasdraining sometimes. Snapback Sports founder and CEO

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Jack Settlement told Front Office Sports thathe received a direct message in December from
Cleman seeking seventy five thousand dollars forthe account. I was curious, Settlement
said it's very hard to grow aTwitter Following of that size, Settlement passed
on the offer and said Cleman counteredwith a lower amount. Settlement said that
Cleman sold his Twitter account earlier thisyear for around seventy five thousand dollars to

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other sources within the NFL aggregator space. Also said that Cleveman sold his account,
although neither provided a number. Onereason Settlement didn't fight is that Twitter's
terms of service bands users from sellingaccounts. So your account wouldet deleted if
you get caught and banned permanently fromselling your account. There are a series
of t transactions back in February throughthe send a Tip icon on the Twitter

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account that shows that Cleanman pocketed nearlytwenty one thousand dollars worth of bitcoin when
it was deposited on February nineteenth,eight days after the Super Bowl. All
the money was quickly offloaded elsewhere onthe blockchain. There's no way to tell
what the payments were for, butthat is a noticeably large figure for a
tip on the Send me a tipfrom that Cleanman, of course, was

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law on Twitter law before Elon Muskbought it and changed his name. Lunched
a monetization program, and two sourcesestimated clean could have pulled in close to
six figures since the program launched.This is post trends so often. I
don't know if you're familiar with thataccount. I am familiar with that account.
In fact, I have direct messagethat account and talked to them several
times before. I don't like aggregators, and I don't know if you know
what that is, but that's thepeople that take all the stories from other

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people and say per so and sowithout adding anything to it. With the
NFL, with the Twitter's new monetizationpolicy, those guys rip it off your
tweets to put even if they putyour name in there. They get paid
for your work. You don't.They don't do anything. Sounds kind of
lazy, yeh, It's extremely lazy. The most notorious aggregate of all time
is Pro Football Talk, where myFlorio takes stories from other people below even

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though he properly credits them, putsthem up on his website and you know,
adds a little content to it atleast, although Florio, to his
credit, doesn't just additional journalism onhis own. These sites like like claiman
and less. I think the mostprobably the most respectable version of that is
my Sports Update with Arimirov, whodoes a good job. And then there

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are some significantly less reputable people outthere. They do it like the mL
Football and NFL RUMs that just makestuff up or steal other people's things.
But do we care if someone isnot who they present themselves to be or
in passing out NFL news, andespecially if it's something that I understanding,
well, well, yeah you breaksome news. Someone else piggybacks off and

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they post it and then if theyare able to monetize them and make money
off of it. Yeah, look, I'm all for someone seeing this and
putting it out there because they thinkit's newsworthy, but if you're making money
off of it, off of someoneelse's content, they should be able to
get something off. For two,it's great to say, well, hey,
Benjamin all Bright said this, butat the same time, if you're

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able to get a little something offof that person using it, it should
be that way. It used tobe that aggregation was good for people like
me because it would say Benjamin andthen your name would be out there.
But now with Twitter's monetization policy basedon the views of your tweets, they're
just stealing my money. At thispoint, that's bad. That's good for
you without the gun and the mass. Right, I'm just saying, Letter

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to Night rolls up after this.A baby giraffe, right, a walk
that's really ridiculous.