05-30-24 Hour 1 of Broncos Country Tonight

Episode Transcript

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Welcome to it Broncos Country tonight.But with all bride, Dick Ferguson,
Grant Smith. Still getting used tothat face, man haull Favor, Steve
Atwater. Yeah, I'm getting usedto that face too. It's it's throwing
in. It still throws me like. It makes just smile like even more
high wattage, you know, becausethe beard isn't like high wattage, you
know, a high watted smile.Dude, you have like an infection.

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I'm just saying your face wasn't dirtyat first, but you but your face
looks really clean. Okay, youguys didn't look dirty before, but you
look clean the way that you gotthe way that you guys are describing this
like, uh, Steve, itdoesn't look dirty. No, your face

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difends look dirty with minderstand but youlook cleaner now than you have in the
past. It just it just soundswild to hear you guys say, but
listen to your point. I wasout at practice today there was some individuals
who were seeing me for the firsttime and they were shot. There are
some individuals who saw me last weekwhen I attended practice who said that they

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had to do a double take becausethey were they were not sure it was
me, so listen, I getit. But just how you guys describe
it, it's hilarious. Why didyou do that? Well, we were
asking, wow, Greg, youcan't do it too loud over there.

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Yes it was. It was theheart, that's that's what we call it.
Like everyone was wondering why, becauseTemper came in and asked me,
well, did you do it becauseyou screwed something up when you were trying
to trick it and I was likeno, and everyone else was thinking I
lost a bet or something like that. Yes, I planned it. This

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was something that has been in thework for about a year, and I
just every time I got in themirror with the clippers, I would have
a change of mind because I waslike, oh, I like how this
looks, so you know what,I'll do it in two weeks. But
I never did it. And thenit took me a year to make up
my mind as far as what Iwanted to do. Because when you grow,
for me, I mean naturally,I have a young looking face.

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So I grew I told Grant,I grew out my beard because I got
tired of being carted. That's whyI grew it out. Now he wants
to be carted again, so shipoff. No, no, yeah,
no, no one's carding me anymore. But everyone seems to uh like like
to look so uh the only oneperson, the only person who first and
foremost who needs to like it.If she told me, don't cut it,

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I'm not cutting which which way doesshe go after your shaves? No,
she's still cool with it when Icame obviously okay really because there's not
the worst, like, hey,you should do it, and then you
do it, and then and thenit's like I kind of like, well
when I did and I and Iwalked out of the bathroom. Her fate
first facial expression was kind of likeshocked, like she couldn't be that I

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that I did it. But shewas welcoming to it. It was just
the kids who were still trying tocome to grip. Who is that He
kind of looks like that. Yeah, my six year old. He's only
he's only seen with a beard.It's just new to him. Yeah,
but it's great. You know whatwe all need to change a little spice
of life, you know, everynow and again, right, yes,

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five six six nine zeros text lineA lot of stuff going on. Uh,
you know, can't we sports spenta lot of time on this Trump
verdict stuff. I think we're goingto pass on that. We got Steve
here in studio for an hour.I do want to talk to you guys
about the NFLPA proposal. Everybody I'vetalked to hates it so far, so
I want to hear what you guyshave to say on Now. We've got
Ryan Michael joining us seven thirty five, George Shorty eight'll five. Of course
the NFO six pack. A littlebit later, Uh, the NFLPA came
out and proposed and extended off seasonwhere they sort of get rid of the

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OTAs and all that and basically maketraining camp even longer. Right, And
at first, I mean there wasa lot of media people who were all
over this, but everybody I talkedto around the league kind of hated the
idea. Most of them liked theidea of having June off, being able
to take their families get away fromfootball for a month, even early cross
of July. You know that havingthat unplugged time, as far as that

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goes, the NFL is a grind. As you guys well know, the
NFL grin, and you know,I got to thinking about a couple of
different things. First of all,remember when Vic first took over as head
coach here in Denver, and wealso had the whole so you got two
extra weeks of practice, but thenwe had the Hall of Fame. He
had an extra one. And youremember how the veterans were by mid August.
They were they were mad, likeyou could tell they were upset.
And you know, I talked tosome players, They're like, yeah,

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you know, if you've got especiallyif you get like an old school coach
that rides you pretty hard, youkind of want the time away to clear
your mind. I talked to somecoaches, I talked to some front office
people, and they're like, yeah, I like getting away. I like
being able to unplug, get withmy fight. You know, I'm away
from my family all season. Ilike to be able to get with my
family and have a good solid month. We can all go on vacation somewhere
and just be around each other,reconnect. So you know, in the
sense that this might be a goodidea for body science, in the sense

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that hopefully it produces fewer injuries.The way it's structured so far, everybody
I've talked to me, Well,are they saying that that's the reason why
they want to try it in termsof hopefully reducing the number of injuries.
That's the way it was presented tome and Nick, Obviously you work with
the NFLPA. Do you know doyou have any additional information on why this
proposal is being proposed in the firstplace. The biggest issue has to do

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with help because the league is puta heavy emphasis over the past couple of
years on the protection of players.This is why they wanted to technically reduce
the preseason games and move them toa regular season game. I had my
own opinion as far as why theydid that, and for me, that
was for more financial reasons. Butthey're saying this has a lot to do

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with what they did this past offseasonwhen it came to the hip drop tackle,
which for me in my time,I had never heard of that before.
So they're saying due to the informationand the research that they've done,
they're trying to move to do everythingthey can to better help the player play
longer. I mean they also itwas this introduction of the guardian caps,

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right, which we haven't even gotteninto that conversation of yet, but they
feel as though doing this would allowfor more cohesiveness with the players. But
more importantly, think about the playerswho were switching teams that allowed those guys
to get grooved in right away.Because if you go back to when Gene
Upshaw was alive and they first cameup with this idea, I think back

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in eighty three that hey, theywanted to do something that was different.
But Jeane said, okay, welllet's call it OT eights And if we
do that, I want to makesure that there's no contact. The guys
are well compensated for it, andit's voluntary and you and I know Steve
volunt Yes, yes, voluntary mandatory. So if you don't show up,

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it's going to look bad on you. And we've seen a lot of that
take place. But this is stillan ongoing conversation. Like you said,
Ben, some guys who are Ford, some guys who are posted. I
would like to hear some of theguys who are forward what the pros of
it are in their opinions. Haveyou heard Have you spoken to anyone who

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who's for it and heard their takeon it? No, I haven't,
but I would only think that maybethey may be for it because they may
think if you're a veteran player,it might allow you an opportunity to make
a roster when you probably wouldn't becausenow you have some time to showcase your

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ability and change the minds of thoseevaluators and people making the decision. That's
the only thing I can come upwith. Other than that, I think
it's real difficult because now you arekind of pushing things to a point where
guys like to take vacation and you'rekind of taking that off the table,
And I feel like that that's greatfor players. I think there's something to

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be said for mentally unplugging a littlebit, and whether that's players, coaches,
front office, whatever, unplug itfrom the game and reconnecting to to
those around you. But I guessthey're saying, hey, you can unplug,
especially if you're not in the playoffsor Super Bowl January January to July.
You're you're unplugged. I mean,isn't that, like this the harshest
way to say that too, andmake the playoffs You're unplugged anyway, Yeah,

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you're unplugged. And also guys comingback, don't they don't have to
be integrateds to shape when they getthe camp because they got a long camp,
they don't get the shap from camp. Here. Here's the other thing
that talking to a couple of guyssmoking cigarettes at training, did you ever
see somebody fire up a cigarette thetrains? Yes, sir, yes,
sir. Listen. I could saywhen I first arriot here from New York

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City, our first training camp,I'm coming through the parking lot. I'm
not gonna say who this was,but I saw one of my teammates in
his car smoking Black and Miles,and I'm like, we are in Denver,
Colorado, where your lungs are soimportant, especially that first couple of
weeks of off season conditioning, andhe's smoking Black and Mile and I was
just like, that's not a schick. It doesn't count because that makes a

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differences right now. So once again, it's it's kind of crazy how that
works. But here's something that talkingto you know, former players and a
couple of current players about this thisnew move. If you want to kind
of increase training camp just a little, right, here's what happens. How

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do you control and out of controlcoach who wants to wrap things up right,
like like there are certain phases,this phase, one phase soon,
it's kind of a build up.So what happens if you were starting training
camp a little earlier and you gota coach who's just like, well,
listen, I'm gonna take advantage ofthis time. And we know, like

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you go back a couple of yearswhen Denny Green was alive and he was
in Arizona, players were draw sunditionbecause they were in OTA's and they had
pads on it. It's like,how do you handle that from p a
standpoint, controlling that coach from gettingout of control? Now, the players
report, I mean, that's that'swhat you have to have. You have
to have the players report that stuff, report the violations. They've seen that
Baltimore. It happens at Baltimore,happened in Jacksonville for the last couple of

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years, it happened here Denver.Oh yeah, players aren't now let this
stuff happen. Put that stuff onuh uh okay, coach, We'll go
ahead and do this. See whathappened to them all. But see,
see that's easy to say, Imean with us sitting in the chairs,
because when you're on the field andcoaches are saying, this is what we're
gonna do. I mean, Idon't know about you, Steve. Come
on you, even if I protest, I'm gonna put that. I'm gonna

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put the pads on. I'm gonnaput them on. Anyway. You were
a player rep, so I knowyou were in the locker room and don't
put those pads on. Don't youup. No, I'm listen. I'm
just say, hey, look,we are all grown in in this room.

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You make the best decision for youand you own it, and I'm
out see. I'll go out therewith my pads. So if there's a
bunch of people out there with theirpads on, hey, that's what the
group has decided. Now, ifsome guys come out there and as a

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majority that don't have their pads on, I'm gonna take mine off. You
can got a roll with a majority, you know, in the locker room.
Before we get out there, I'mgonna saying, who get out there.
I'm not putting on a magic micshow trying to get rid of pads
and whatever. No, you justgot your pads. You're looking around and
see what guys who decided to doand follow what you know you might have
recommended. If not, then youmight as well go ahead. But on

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we had we've seen the violation,then they do. They lose practice days
or training camp, dat or whateverit is that you know, in the
end, it's it's not worth itto try to do it anymore anyway,
it's such a rare occurrence anymore.I think last time Kyle Shanahan got popped
with it once or twice. HardballI think was the last one to get
popped with it in Baltimore, notnot in with the charters. Yeah,
I think I have a problem withit because you still wouldn't get a chance

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to really evaluate guys until close tothe season because they still aren't going to
play the preseason games until that sametime. And that will be when you
really be able to evaluate ken theseguys, especially defenders and you know,
running backs and uh, you knowsome of the linemen. You know,
that's when you'll really be able totell when they go against other guys who

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are in past going full speed,you won't be you won't know anything from
the time they report the camp upto that first game. But still at
the end of the game at thequestions proposal ostensibly is to quote unquote help
prevent injuries, which I assume thereis some data behind. At the same
time, it feels like it'll grindpeople down. I'm gonna have that,
know what's that, I'm gonna havethat on it. They've never done well,

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That's what I'm saying. I'm assumingthere's some data. I haven't seen
any, so I don't know.I'm assumed. I'm assuming that somebody somewhere
has some data that suggests that thiswould be better for interview. Yes,
someone has some data that will notbe with the public because because that data
may not be full of proved back. This is the perfect way to go
for me. Here's what's gonna happen. Everything is a build up to what

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the league is one to four years. They're gonna get it. That's they're
gonna get it. That's so.Is that your is that your give and
take? Like, is there isthere some kind of bargaining chip in here
for the players in order to givethe owners that eighteen game season because the
owners want that. I don't thinkthe players do. Your salaries getting divided
by one more game, you're not. You don't get more money, get

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less The players don't want more,right, because it doesn't mean as though
they're making more money. But rememberwhat happened with the last cb A.
Right, the players said, okay, well here's what we want. Give
up the testing, yes, okay, if you want to find us for
week fine, but don't suspend usfor week right, and the league is
just like, okay, if youwant that, here's our We want an

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extra game, right, And foolishlythe players got within yeah. And I
was like, man, yeah,you didn't get you didn't get enough back,
Yes you didn't right, yes,right, you wanted to smoke,
right, you wanted some of thatmile held magnet. Right, what did
you receive in return? Like thatwas a perfect opportunity for the players Association
to say, look, if we'regonna do this, we're gonna give an

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extra game, why don't we justgo ahead and say, well, add
more players for the roster, orgive more health benefits monetarily for when you
retired, because we know you're gonnahave injuries. Right, That's what they
should have done, and that's whatthey still should be doing. And that's
why this came out of left field. And I'm like, well, wait
a minute, I think come outof left field. It came out back
in February, but it really seemslike the ramp up to this came out

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of left field, and I'm like, this doesn't feel like a bargaining chip
here, well the way he wantsit, So what are we doing Exactly?
In the PA, they negotiate thecurrent CBA for ten years, so
I think it's still six years remainingon the CBA. So this new proposal,
it still needs to get to provedby the owners, which the owners
is going to say, Okay,if this is what you want to do,

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here's what we wanted to retire,right, So it's a give and
take, and the league should know, the PA should know from years past,
you're not going to get something fromthe owners unless you're willing to give
up something they want. Eighteen nineteengames. Well, one of the things
that I don't necessarily agree with isthat it seems like when the NFL paid

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negotiates with the NFL and the NFLsaid, Okay, what do you guys
want, it seems like it's alwaysless practice, less pads le's physicality,
and that is maybe good for individuals, but for the team and teams getting

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better better football. I don't thinkit improves the game overall. It doesn't.
And I've said this for years becausethere's a handful of individuals who come
up with this decision that the NFLPAmakes, and ideas like once that group
decides, is therefore disseminated to everyplayer rep on our team and say,
okay, listen, here's what wedecided. And I'm like, whoa,

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whoa, wait a minute, wedidn't decide anything. Yeah, And if
the owners get together, Palm Beach, wherever they get together. I've always
said this and people looked at mecrazy when I play. I'm like,
well, if the owners are gettingtogether, the players should get together.
And the argument was, well,how do you get every single player in
the same room. The other partof this seat is not every player has
the same agenda, right, Andthis is something I tried to explain in

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the last CBA. You have guyslike von Miller or JJ Watt who at
the time at the last CBA orat the top of the craft and get
paid, pay a lot of money, pay, and the agenda for them
is a lot different than guys whoare at the bottom of the roster are
trying to make trying to make youknow, make things work or whatever else.
They've got tons of money, sosome of those benefits don't affect them

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in the same way that it affectsother guys. And so that's the thing
that ownership always has on the players. Ownership is a unified front. They're
just trying to print money. Andat the end of the day, the
players are trying for set have alldifferent issues and they are not as unite
it even though they should be.And when you think about it, most
of the players who have the mostinfluenced are the guys who are made in
the money, and there's some ofthe things that they come up with are

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not beneficial the guys who aren't makingthe money. And it's crazy to be
in the room when those decisions arebeing made because the way that it is
being presented to players, current players, there's a sum of money and we
have to choose between us and themand them being the retired players, And
I'm sitting in the room like idiots. At some point here now you will

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definitely be over here. Label well, you could be over there come trading
can you can be on that time. So it's just like you you need
to sit in the room and thinknot as a current player, but as
a former player. But they don'thave that. They got that JG.
Wentworth mentality. It's my money andI want to know and that and that
is something that's hurting a lot ofplayers in the form of negotiations, right,

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Like I don't think even hurts theplayers because they are not unified.
And that's that's that's always been mygripe. It's the weaksh negotiating body in
professional sports because they're not unified.You have people. The income disparity in
football is huge, and that's whythe NBA Players Association is more powerful.
That's why I say, well,Troy guaranteed contracts. They're getting their mind.

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Yes, years ago, after GenumSharp passed, Troy Vinson threw his
name in the head as far asbeing the leader of the PA. They
didn't vote him in because they say, well, he didn't have enough experience.
So you know what Troy said doingthe other side right, And I'm
like you idiots, he's a formerplayer. We need someone in the room

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fighting for us. But this iswhere the leadership is always concerned me.
For years, are you thinking aboutthe group as a whole or a small
amount, because if there's a decisionthat's going to affect every single player,
every single player should be in theroom to make that decision. Slowly,
Guys, Steve Foley, Riley Odomsintroducted to the Broncos Hall of Fame.

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We talking about that. We cameback plus the Super Bowl in London that
we wanted. This is the BroncosCountry Night. Ka wait, welcome back
to it, Broncos Country Tonight.Benjamin Albrighten, Nick Ferguson, Grant Smith
here with you. Hall of FamerSteve Atwater, Steve Foley, Riley Odoms
getting into the Broncos Ring of Fame. They will be I believe the thirty

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thirty eighth members of the Broncos Ringof Fame. How do we feel about
those two making it and who's thebiggest snub so far? Uh? I
feel great about both of those guys. Man Steve Foley, everyone around town
knows who he is. He's activein the community. It's one of the

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nicest guys you ever want to meet. In his chag I got a beautiful
family, uh. And they werethere along with them today their practice and
it was such such a beautiful sight. Man. I love seeing him with
this grandkid, his kids, hiswife, everybody was there, and you
know, Steve only forty four interceptions. That record will stand forever, probably,

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especially because the way Phrazy is nownow. In the future, they
may change it to where you know, players are staying with teams longer.
Again, I don't think so,but I think that record will be here
forever. Probably. He was fortyfour, forty three was a Goose.
Gonsolin and Bill Thompson had forty,Champ Bailey had thirty four. Champ Bailey

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was ten interceptions short of that.Uh, Steve, you were twenty interceptions
short of that at twenty four.I probably drop. Yeah, Oh,
it's funny. Justin Simmons, bythe way, who he specifically singled out
of saying I wanted Justin to breakit. Uh, his seventh all time
as le Bronco with thirty interceptions.That's wow. Still for Justin Simmons was

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fourteen interceptions and short basically half hiscareer, half his interception short of hitting
that market. It is that thatthat indicates that back in that time when
Steve Foley was playing, quarterbacks werehorrible. I was kidding, No,
because there was seventy six to eightysix he played at the in the in

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the you know, the Martyren era. Very volume passing though. Well,
the game was there, but itwasn't as prevalent as it might have been
in year's pass Well, it wasn'tthinking dunk passing. I mean we were
taking forty yard shots, you know. I mean you had twenty passing attempts
of game and forty yard shots.Yeah. They weren't passing the ball the
way they're passing it, right.It was vertical shots. I mean they

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were play action vertical shots. Yeah. But I'm just saying they were trying
to get the run game going mostof the time and then passing when they
had to. It wasn't running gun, No, it wasn't. And this
is not to take away from whatSteve Foley accomplished, which is marvelous feet.
But when when you when you thinkabout the fact that Randy Gratishaw is

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going into the Pro Football Hall ofFame and we have these two guys going
into the Broncos Ring of Fame,that says a lot about what that team
was in the in the seventies andhow great the Orange Crush and how dominant
that they were. That you you, you take away everything that team's trying

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to do underneath, and you forcethem into some of this tonne of where
you're gonna you're gonna throw the ball. And by the way, if you
do, we got guys in theback end that's gonna take it away from
you. So praises to all thoseguys who are not in the Ring of
Fame, who were part of theOrange Crust, because every time someone goes
in the Hall of Fame, someonegoes into Ring of Fame, it is

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paying homage to those guys and whatthey were able to accomplish. And uh,
I know that they're so happy.Bonnie Chavis just went into the Colado
Sports Hall of Fame earlier this year, earlier this year, and everybody celebrated
that. And you know everybody's goingto be back to celebrate Randy gratishar Riley

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Oldhams and my man Steve Foley.So happy for all those guys. I
haven't gotten a chance to meet RileyOldis. Have you met Riley Oldom No,
I haven't. Yeah, I haven'tmet him yet, but I'm looking
forward to meet him. He's hadheck of a career, and I heard
he's a one one, very niceguy as well. You know what,
Steve, Here's something that's interesting.And I don't know if you feel this
way, but I've had a chanceto be around a lot of professional athletes

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and being around a lot of NFLteams I either playing and coaching, and
this is this is not me tryingto be a home or whatever, but
it it's something unique about being apart of the Broncos organization. I go
back to when Shaves went into theColorado Hall of Fame. When I looked
on stage, I saw Louis Wright, I saw Tom Jackson, Billy Thompson,

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right, I saw all these individualswho I was like, wow,
these dudes were dogs in their deathsand just they all came back for Barney
Chaves. And to me, thatwas symbolic of family. And I said
at the table with Mark Jackson wasaround me, Ron Egloff and some other
players. And I looked on stageand I looked at the table that I

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was sitting at it I was like, this is nuts. I say,
Wow, if I could go backin time and tell the younger Nick Ferguson,
he would be in the company ofthese people, he wouldn't believe right,
right, And that's the thing that'skind of you know, fanboys for
me to be a part of somethinglike that. What's funny is you guys
mentioned Barti Chaves because that was mypick for the Ring of Famer that should

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be in the Ring of Fame.He's not in the Broncos Ring of Fame.
And I had either him or RubenCarter I thought were the big two
biggest names that now obviously vonnal getin when Vaughn you know, retires and
all that kind of stuff, Butthe two biggest names besides that, they're
not an active player to me orRuben Carter and Barney Chaves. You know,
it's funny that you bring up thosetwo names because I'll go offense.
I think about McCaffrey, I thinkabout Steve Watson, right, those two

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individual extraordinary within their time. Butonce again, it's almost like a Hall
of Fame. How do you geteveryone in? Right? That's that's very
difficult. How do you vote everyonein? And what's what's the criteria do
you have to Because coach Peyton saidit today that when he goes to certain
stadiums, he looks around at theirRing of Fame, and he brought one

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team in particular in that being theWashington Commanders, and like, well,
I mean all these guys and theyhadn't been to that many Super Bowls,
right, which makes you so whatgoes into that criteria? And you guys
didn't give me a point watching committeeeach team has when Dave Logan, I
believe is on the isn't he onthe Are you involved in that two statement?

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The criteria though? What is it? I'm asking you? You're the
Well, the criteria is one,uh, they had to be with the
organization for minimum of four year years. That's the official rule. Yeah,
yeah, and that's that's the samething here. And just have been a

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great player. I had to havemade an impact. And obviously that's subjective.
Otherwise, if it was something thatwas you know, you you have
to check certain box, it willbe more or objective. But it's the
process is it's subjective because well,I think Al Wilson, yes, he

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should have been in a long timeago, but the same movie feel about
Riley Oldhams and Steve Holey, andI think if he's not the next one
to go in, I'd be surprised. How much room you got to think?
I mean, I have to goback and look at the statement.
How much room that they have toput more guys in? Are you just
yeah, you got plenty of roomfor that. You've got to us.

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You got Gerald Phipps uh and PatBowland. You've got Red Miller, Mike
Shanahan uh and Dan Reeves uh.And then you've got Champ, John Lynch,
Simon Fletcher, Jason elm Rick upChurch, Gene Mingo, Tom naland,
Rod Smith, Shannon Sharpel Davis,Steve, Gary Zimmerman, Dennis Smith,
Carl Mecklenberg, John l Way,Uh Lewis Right, Tom Jackson,
Randy Gratis, shar Craig Morton,Haven Moses, Jim Turner, Billy Thompson,

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Charlie Johnson, Paul Smith, FrankedPuka Uh, Goose Gonsol and Rich
Jackson, Floyd Little and Lionel Taylor. That's the that's the ring thing.
Wow. And you got some guyscoming up. Chris Harris, Yeah,
Key Jamar Jamarus, Yeah, yougot some guys. See. That's see,
that's really crazy because you think aboutthat, no flies home. You

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just say, Chris Harris, youmentioned a key. And it's just like
if you could only choose one ofthose guys, which one of those guys
you choose in Damarius to me?Vaughn and Damarius, I think of the
next two, I think, butwhat do I know? Oh man,
not that I expect you guys.Yeah, the Mary's first. I think,

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Vaughn he's he's still playing, gonnaget playing, He's he's been playing
in Buffalo. Yeah, it hasto be what I think four years or
five years after. Yeah, youhave your tired on that. Marius was
twenty eighteen, so I guess hewould technically be eligible. Now how do
you give over a McCaffrey though,Oh yeah, yeah, is he not
in? He's not I should bein. But yeah, the guys like

(28:30):
Party Chavis, Rubert Carter for me, cam lanare met Lapsus. You know,
there's some guys I think that havebeen overlooked over the years that were
great broncos that that got overlooked forvarious different reasons. Trevor Price, you
know, probably a name that belongsAl Wilson, probably a name that belongs
in there. You know, Iwas, yes, of course, but

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he screamed at me one time beforeyeah, office couldn't stay on the field.
So we were on the field againstKansas City and uh Monday night football.
They moving the ball. I hadlike sixty yards and penalties by myself
and he what, it's one ofthose nice one of the one of the

(29:14):
Knights. Man, come on sixtyyards man. I hit Trick Green.
I felt as I hit him ontime. The ref felt as though after
he threw the ball. I waslike, that's a bang bang playing ref.
So yes, fifteen the Spirits tracksthey're talking to Dable. Yeah,

(29:36):
the textually, I really want toknow. There were there's like several people
like, do you get a jacketlike the whole thing? Yeah? You
a orange jacket? That one?You don't get an upgrade to it?
An upgrade? What are we talkabout? That was a surprise. Hey
little triangles that walmup moneys he king, Yeah, let me upgrade you.

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They already they're already nice. Theyfit so comfortable. But I'm seeing the
war jacket. I didn't know ifthat was just like a youth singer,
if it was like the ring hisring frames. Okay, all right,
you got two jack that's say,how do you decide? There was a
mustard yellow that horns, like,how do you decide which one when you're
like, I'm in so many ringof fames, I don't know which jacket
to wear. It's not like sometimesat all that yes you got when you

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got it like that. You cansay that for sneeze too humble the flex
Yes, I'm saying, yeah,sneeze too humble. For they never let
me get in a ring of famethough, never let me get in one,
because oh my goodness, Oh forthe jacket with no shirt underneath it,
like an rbcinger for the nightties,what arm pits of sweating, looking

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like I'm sinking, like I'm aboutto go a new editions, I mean
Drew Hill one shoulder. You knowyou're singing, wind flowing. Knowing you
been you would put some wow nameon the back of your jacket. I
put like gold embossing on it orsomething like. I would make the jacket
ridiculous by the time I was done, it would be ridiculous. But the

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front to back page in between whatwas a four page pull out? You
know what it would say on theback of his shirt. Would I'm busyman
on bright and I'm better than you? Oh, my goodness speaking somebody trying
to be better than us. Thosestupid British people are back in the news
again. The London Mayor wants tohost the Super Bowl. It's not enough

(31:33):
that he gets us to fly outthere. Yeah, games there at Wembley,
which by the way, did havea good time out there, other
than twist of my ankle on oneof their cobblestone streets. But the stuff
that came up today London Mayor saidhe wants to host a Super Bowl.
He says, we have a numberof American games. I wanted to come
here because we want American sports fansin Europe to come to London and watch
them, not just go to America. The biggest problem here, however,

(31:56):
is the time difference. Super Bowlin London, uh would start? The
game really starts around six thirty Easternright, that's eleven thirty PM in London,
and it's about a four hour game. So you have Wembley emptying out
about three thirty in the morning,and if you've never been to London,
they shut down early, like theyshut down like at eleven pm. I
was trying to like have a goodtime over there, and they're shutting the
bars down at like eleven p andI'm like, uh that I'll just get

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started. Well, see that's notan opposite. Well you saw me the
one you saw one of those nights, man a little you turned over there.
You think that that is kind ofsomewhat of a hurdle. But knowing
as though this is the biggest sportingevent around, those pubs are going to
stay open. That's they can.I don't think they can. Why not.

(32:43):
I think it's just like here wherethey got to shut down at the
sort time. There's no such thingas got to shut down. You know
why? Because cash rules everything aroundme and that changes a lot of opinions.
I don't know, man, I'mjust I think there's like some kind
of rules or something. There werea few places like some Uh, there
was a I ended up. Amatter of fact, I think I still
have it. I had to goget a membership to the Palm Beach Casino

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in order to keep drinking at nightbecause the casino was a twenty four hour
deal. They got you. I'mjust saying that I still have the I
still have the membership card. Yeah, well listen, good for you know
London trying to put that out there, and who knows, the league might
just bite if it's enough money.I think too many American football fans out

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Let's be totally honest. Weekly oneof our biggest games sporting advanced, but
let's be totally honest. At agiven super Bowl, the ticket prices are
higher than a giraffe, you knowwhat. So most of the time we
see people in sponsors and entertainers atthose games. So do not act as
though you know, regular people stillsuper Bowl for I have two questions.

(33:47):
First of all, why is thedraft ring a top hat? Second of
all, you know, why islike I still think people will be outraged,
like people will have that Oh no, we can't let it be in
London. Why would we do that? You know what, I can tell
you, if it's there, itwill sell out. You can have it

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in the middle of Cornfield and Iowa. It's going to sell out. I'm
just saying exactly. And you answeredyour own question. It's dollars dollars,
but is it worth more to haveit over there? It's okay. The
NFL is trying to go global,right, They're doing that in certain ways.
They want to go global, likethe NBA. If you do that
you don't just get an influx ofAmerican fans, you get fans everywhere else.

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I'm wondered why they haven't put itin some of the bigger college football
stadiums because the seating capacity. Yeah, because the seating capacity is way more
than the biggest NFL stadiums have,what eighty thousand. I mean, you're
talking about like one hundred thousand andsome of these collegiates. Wembley seats ninety
thousand. So I can understand sortof you get more seats out of it.
That's more money. But you know, I just I don't know.
Yeah, I mean, I guess, but most of the money comes to

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broadcasting anyway in the commercial space.It doesn't come from that. It doesn't
make it. They make a difference. Is it more money at the end
of the day, If it's moremoney, yes, you did well.
You know what, the man says, more money, more problems. Broncos
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