06-24-24 Hour 1 of Broncos Country Tonight

Episode Transcript

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Welcome to it, Broncos Country Tonight, Benjamin Albright, Grit smith Man,
The Myth, the Mustache Hall ofFamer, Steve Atwater here in studio.
You kind of got me, hypeman. Let's get it up. You
up before the show? Yeah,real quick. The programming, no type
stuff. We have a full liveshow on Wednesday, and then Thursday,

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KAWA will be covering the presidential debateand I will be a part of that
coverage. So it'll be myself rosKaminsky. Whoa, whoa, whoa.
The presidential debate. I think they'rethinking about running for president. It's give
me my coming out. So we'reso, where are you going to be
when this is going on? Righthere? Yeah? Right here? Okay,
okay, all right, you're gonnabe there asking questions at the debate.

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It's the president. Excuse me?Uh yeah, I don't think they
want that. No, we'll behere, we'll be reacting to that.
We'll be live on the air,I think from six to seven, I
believe, and then we have likea Facebook kind of simulcast where you guys
can join us and give my thoughtson it. Ross and Mandy Obvious.
I think everybody knows give their thoughtson it. For a little bit of
background, I think a lot ofpeople don't know. I used to work

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I worked in on two presidential campaigns, the my Co Coulby campaign in the
Wesley Clark campaign. I worked indata and analytics. But I've worked on
on campaigns before, and you know, I have a passion for the stuff.
So for me released well, no, and back then, analytics was
a little bit different than it isnow. But we used to you know,
they would come to us and say, you know, how is this

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polling? How is it You know, there's a lot of different kind of
things. That's oversimplification a little bit, but we provided data on what they
needed to be talking about in theseparticular regions or in this you know that
kind of stuff. And I wasin a high school championship debater, you
know, and those kinds of Ihave a passion for this stuff. So
I'm excited for that. I excitedto maybe get into this. Do you
like arguing? There's a difference.I like both exadly, but I like

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both. But I like the structureof debating that there are formal rules the
arguing. I think everybody's seen myTwitter and we don't need to recount that
six nine zeros a text line.You guys want to get involved in the
conversation. Big Show tonight, obviously, Steve uh here in studio. Cody
Rourke joins us at seven thirty five. Lance Sanderson will join us at the
top of the eight o'clock hour aswell. Get a chance to talk a

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little bit about uh, everything thatthey've seen so far with with OTAs and
and Minnie Camps and all that.Steve, we're in the we're in the
dog days in summer, oh man? Yeah, how how how difficult?
I mean, it's it's a differentera now with social media and when guys
are doing what then I was supposedto be doing, they tend to get
caught a lot easier now, Cameraseverywhere, cameras ever, you can't do

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anything, you gonna get busted.Yeah, if you do it, let
me not supposed to do You goget bust eventually. Will How difficult was
it when you were playing? Didyou, guys? Did you check up
on each other? You know duringthis period? Did you guys? It
was there just an understanding? Imean, how how was that done back
then? Well, when we're thisclose to camp. Most guys were vacation.

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I know I was vacation in uhstill making sure that I got my
workhouse saying wherever I went. Uh, that's a vital part of it of
being a professional athlete. You gottabe a pro You gotta make sure you
stay and shape regardless of where youare. But uh, you may have
a few guys on the team thatyou keep in touch with it, but

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obviously not everyone. If you guyskept in touch with it because you knew
you need to keep a touch withyou guys, you're just your boys.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, okay, I always I just wondered, I
mean, why was somebody you needto keep in touch with something, with
somebody to make sure you're all doingright, you know, like accountabil about
you know what we're talking about,like accountability across the like team captains and
stuff like that, checking on onguys. I know how it was.

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Uh you know, like for instance, when I was in the military and
we had a you know, wehad a four day pass or something like
that. Yeah, I had tokeep it one on the junior listed man
d are going to be up tono good, I'll go check up on
them. So I always wondered ifif it was the same at the at
the professional athlete level, when youknow you've got a gap in time,
you know, everybody's going to hitCabo or going to hit you know,
back the home time. So therewas kind of accountability there. Recall and

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check it up on. There maybe I mean, if you have guys
on the team who you know,uh, tend to get into things that
they aren't supposed to, then theremay be some of that. But I've
never I've never done that. I'mnot the babysit of type anyway. That's
that's fair. That's fair. You'rea grown man. You got to make
sure. You don't know I wouldbe that way, except it was my
backside on the line back when Iwas you know, in the in the

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military. Was you know, myguys get in trouble, I'm getting in
trouble too. So yeah, yeah, yeah, I guess eventually ultimately that's
the way it was for us too, because is a great player. If
you got in trouble and he's notthere, we're going to suffer too,
right, And so that's you know, excuse me, why why I asked
that I'm sneezing over here algy rightnow, five six, six, nine

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yeos and text line. You guysgot questions for uh, Steve, what
are you looking forward to the most? Once training game gets started, No,
everybody was talking about the quarterbacks andall that kind of stuff. They're
a specific thing that you are lookingforward to more than anything else. Well,
Uh, I got I got afew things I'm going to be looking
for. One is the offensive line, that center position, especially to make

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sure that it's nice and secure inthere, because that that pressure in your
face is real and we had someof that even even with Cush. We
we had some pressure right up themiddle there and that's you know, we
gotta gotta gotta stop that. Obviously, Ill looking at the quarterbacks, everybody's

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building the quarterback, so we don'teven mention them. The defensive backs.
As the former defensive back, I'malways looking at that. You're looking at
the play, You're looking at it. Who steps up in the leadership back
him? Now that you don't haveKareem Jackson out, you don't have Justin
Simmons. I mean, these area specific thing you're looking for. Well,
I'm looking at the corners to seewho uh the outside, Yes,

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that outside corner away from pastor Tan. We know Pat's going to be in
there building the slot. You havebeen building a slot. Hey, but
you know, hey, you neverknow. Man. Hey, it's the
players, man, we got it. We got a team full of players.
I think we have multiple positions wherethe competition is going to be tense,

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and they'll be surprised if somebody whoyou think should be starting may not
be starting. That's that's the thingI think that you know, George Peyton
has taken his slings and arrows inthe media, and you have people that
are talking bad about his tenure asgeneral manager. I like George Payton.
I think he's done a pretty goodjob overall. He's it's missus a free
agency, but who hasn't. Ithink for me, the talent level top

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to bottom of this roster is betterthan it was than when you got here.
I think there's I think there's morecompetition now for I think that's a
good thing. I think that's all. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I
mean when when the guys are competingin practice, you know, you want
to have a rougher time in practiceagainst your own guys than you do when

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you get in the game. Nowyou know you got something special. Yeah,
when you got the scout team,that's ball in there. They're really
challenging you and making you a betteryou know, offense or defense, you
know the game. You're going tobe just that much better in the games.
Who gave you the most trouble backin practice back in the day.
Let me see, let me see, I don't I got I had to

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think about that, man. Youknow, I can't think of it anymore.
I used to be able to thinkon the spot. Man, as
I got an older, uh,taking this toll on me, I mean
it was there, was there,somebody was there? Anybody who you know
came up and you're like, youknow, like you just uh you know
everything, Okay, not really,it was nobody like that around of each
repers like the chat like okay,I got you this time, you know.

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Yeah. Sometimes uh, like whenI'd have to cover the tight ends
and you know, uh oh yeah. He was always sorry to cover,
but but hey, we have somegood tight ends. Byron Chamberlain. We
had him on the show too longago. Yeah. Yeah, man,
both those guys man, they werethey were they were to touch to defend

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man. But again, it madeus all better. Well, and that's
and and that's the thing. SoI think that having more talent on the
roster will help make everybody better.The big thing I'm looking for and this
story, I don't know if it'sgone under the radar or if it's because
of the last couple of years.But Tim Patrick looked really good. I
mean really good. Yeah. Isaw him like, kick it up with

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speed. Yeah, he's back,Yeah, he's still he's got that extra
gear. Yeah. And you know, I mean it's again, it's mini
campus OTA's guys don't have pads on, okay, but he looked back And
I don't know if it's a jadedsense of well, Tim's got hurt the
last couple of years. I don'twant to put my heart in on accounting
on this guy, and then allof a sudden he gets hurt again again

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kind of thing. I don't knowwhat it is from the fan base,
but they don't seem to They don'tseem to be resonating with the fact that
Tim Patrick looked like he was thereal deal. But you know what,
it could almost have been a blessingin disguise, because I think most guys
the year after they have an acoinjury, they're not really one hundred percent.
So him tearing that achilles versus havinganother knee injury, it's much easier

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to come back from. And thatalso gives that knee chance to get back
to one hundred percent. So he'llbe that. He'll be like Javonte Williams
knee Yeah is good. Good,He's good. That's the other thing.
There's been some and I don't knowwhere this came from, but I've noticed
it on social media and there's somereport out there somewhere. I have yet
to chase this down as ahead oftime where where there's trying to claim that

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Javonte's washed and about to get cut, And I'm like, I don't know
how you would have got that.I was at every viewing session. I
don't know where you got that fromontIs back okay, And I was amazed
at how well he played last year. He was miraculous in fact, for
his particular injury with the PCO,UCO everything for that particular, there has

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never been a history of any sportwhere any athlete has come back from that
in that time frame, even abaseball, basketball, football, hot He's
soccer, Olympics nothing, even though, what's what's Peterson? And Peterson did
but he did, but his tooklong. He was longer to come back
from that, and it wasn't sohe only had two of the three.
He didn't have the third one.Oh wow, Gavante Davonte's injury was so

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was was brutal and there has neverin history been somebody to come back that
fast and start again. You know, it's crazy. Every time he would
run the ball last year, Ijust please get up. He popped up
every single time. I didn't believe. I didn't think he was gonna be
able to go halfway through the season. I mean, I remember being at
the Combine that year and talking withpeople up there like is Jamont the you're

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gonna play this year? All thatkind of stuff. I'm like, man,
I don't know. I mean,it's a tough injury to come back
for. We saw Baltimore. Somebodyhad the same injury. JK. Dobbins.
He's with the Chargers now, butDobbins had the same injury. Baltimore
took him forevert he was never thesame, you know, the same guy
coming back. So I went withthis Davante stuff like, I like,
what Juils McLoughlin over there looks likeand I love watching him play, But

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but to say that he's going totake on a heavier workload, I think
is a bit ridiculous. I mean, you're talking about eight Ton touch touch
a game guy. Well, thething is Javonte, I mean Joette McLoughlin.
I mean, he's that flash guy. He's that joker type player guy
who can you know, go thedistance at any any any given time.

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But the only thing is he doesn'thave the size to hold up when they're
sending linebackers on blisters, edge rustlon blisters. You got a block officive
lineman. Sometimes he just doesn't havethe size to do that. He has
the heart to do it, hejust doesn't have the size to do it.
All right. It's just like nobodyquestioned Phil Lindsay's heart, right,
it was just if you had ifyou were putting him out there and passport
with Joey Bosa coming down at you, what do we do Trump? You

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can just grab one hand, guessyeah. That's It's like it's like this
set of guy for failure and wedon't do that, right. So I
think that you look at this runningback room, and it is loaded.
I mean, you've got Davonte,you got some j P right who might
might have been the odd rim outdrafts. You've got Blake Watson that was
gonna make de Sase. I thinkhe is. I think he's I think
he's gonna just somebody. And thenyou got mcglopplin, who's gonna make this

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team too, Tyler Bady, whowould probably make any other team except that
you know, he's stuck behind allthese other guys. But that's what I'm
saying. I mean, you lookat the roster. You have several positions.
The wide receiver positions is the sameway. Well, yeah, you
get the rookie. You're just draftingo credit. He's like twenty six years
old. In val A, theywas bawling out in mini camp almost like
man, that's the first year receiver. You kidding me? Yeah, I

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thought it was because the number,you know, was like TP's back,
that's not TP. Yeah, he'slooking looking good man, all of them.
Marvin Manhams, I think he's gonnahave Uh. I think Marvin is
going to be the the the explosivebreakout player this year. I think I
think there's a lot of people thatare sleeping on him. Uh. I
think if they've got in the ballmore last year, he could have been
the typically wide receivers in the NFLthese days, in year two, that's

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when they bust out. You know. It takes you a year to kind
of get your your bearings. You'relearning so much. Drink it too a
firehose a little bit. Wide receiverstend to break out in their second year.
MAM's gonna be on the backside.He's going to be the guy that's
getting one on ones on the backside. He's gonna be open open. Uh.
Josh Reynolds, it looks just lookspretty good. I'm in court if
he's here, especially Tim looks wherethey got over the Yeah. And it's

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crazy because when you line all theseguys up, a majority of them they
have almost the same bill, right, that's the thing. Franklin well Truff,
we had an't gotten there. Yeah, I mean they all did that.
Brandy Johnson a tall, slim,fast, you know, kind of
kind of rangey. You know,it's it's it's gonna be nice, man.

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Uh. I think, come on, he's got he's got the speed.
You know, he's gonna put itall together this year, you got
you got a lot of guys there. I think the question for me is
this, what is at the endof the day, what is this team?
It looks like we've got a lotof pieces. Is can we get
the puzzle together in time? Ithink people are sid because Vegas has the
wind total right now like five anda half, which feels a sert of

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load to me based on what I'mlooking at out there right I mean,
I'm not saying the Broncos are gonnago out and win a Super Bowl this
year. I hope that happens,so do I. But I looking at
this like, this team looks likeit's going to be a lot more competitive
than it has been in previous years. And I thought they were a fairly
competitive team last year. Now theyhad some coin flip games that didn't go
their way. But I don't thinkthey're going to be worse than last year.

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Yeah, I don't either. Iadopted. If they they're worse than
last year, I would be verysorry. Boon Knicks. I mean I
have it right now based on Imean, again, it's many camps and
you're talking about you know, alimited number of practices, but Stidham looks
better, and he should look better. He's got a year in the system,
he knows, he's receivers well.It seems like to me each quarterback

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that was with the first team lookedbetter mostly. I would say that's one
of the case too. I mean, when you got better protection and better
receivers, he's been going to lookbetter. As far as that goes,
I think that Stidham just looks smoother. He looks he just understands the offense
because he's been in it for ayear. Yeah, he should look smoother,
right, But Boone Knicks is notthat far behind him now. Zach
Wilson, I think Zach's got thebest tools. I think he's got the
strongest arm. I think he's gotthe best athleticism. The questionnaires the head

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is because can he put it alltogether upstairs and kind of become the guy
that he was drafted to be whenhe was taking overall by the Jets,
I don't know. I don't knowhow long it takes me to get that.
I would imagine like it may hemay have taken a little bit of
a confidence hit once everything started goingdown in uh with the Jets. The
way that it did with them bringingin Aaron Rodgers and you know, now,

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oh man, I'm I'm I'm I'mthe guy. And now we got
somebody else that's you know, oneof the greatest players of all times that's
here. That puts me a kindof the in the back seat. You
know, I wonder if he tooka confidence hit. They did in several
ways because Greg Knapp was supposed tobe the guy to develop him, and
then Nap had that tragic accident wherehe passed away. Then you had a

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full, a whole offensive staff thathad never developed a quarterback. All those
guys were very young at a youngoffensive coordinator, the younger of the floor
boy was there before hacking. Theynever done any of that, and so
the one guy that you had thathad experience with that was gone. And
so I think that Zach was probablyjust set up for failure. People don't
realize. And it's funny because yousee on social media in there, oh

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they did, Yeah, Zach Wilson'sand all this stuff like that. Wilson
is the same age as Bone nextday they got like five months apart.
Yeah, you know, he's justgot he gotta learn this offense. You
know all the adjustments and he's gottahe gotta study just like bow Knicks does
and the way that Jared Didham hadto study to get it down. Pat.
And you know, once he hasit down, Pat, I believe

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he'll be able to compete and madethe best man win. This is gonna
be a great competition. And Ilove that. You know, our friend
Ryan is not like quarterback competitions.For whatever reason, I love him.
I love him. Made the bestman win. Yeah, you know,
because if you can go through thatknowing that, Hey, at the end
of this, if I play wellenough, I'm going to be the starting

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quarterback for the Denver Broncos. Well, and Russell Wilson did that in Seattle.
He was a third round draft pickwho up ended the high priced veteran
They brought it. They paid moneyfor Matt Flynn. You don't know that
they pay They paid Matt Flynn tocome over from Green Bay a bunch of
money, and Russe Wilson was like, no, I got this, bro,
Yeah, go take seed over theycatch him. I got this,
yeah. I think the competition makesmakes us all better competition, you know

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it all. I guess this isall the upper game a little bit.
I don't care who wins the competition. I don't have a dog in the
fight. I mean, I thinkthe fans want Bonus to win because he's
the first round draft pick, andthere's there's something to be said for our
first round pick and lungevity and allthat. Because I don't care IF's Jared
Stidwater. I don't care who itis Didwater, calm Steadwater because Bridgewater Okay,
okay, and it's stuck, likeI can't stop doing it now,

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like I keep doing I'm doing iton accident now, but I didn't mean
to do it right there, mita Calm Stidham and and so that's because
like I'm worried now that when Iinterview him later to do the Stidwater thing,
he's gonna like just punch me inthe face. Water'll do that one.
Yeah, we'll see, you know, I mean he'll I think sten
him be finey. I don't carewho it is, if it's did,
if It'szack Wilson, if it's youknow, I don't care. I just

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want the best most capable person towin it so that we're not dogged with
quarterback questions, which we have beenin the post Manning era. Yeah,
and hopefully it'll be a situation towhere it's obvious, to where everybody on
the team knows who's playing best.All the coaches see it, and the
players themselves they know, and heall played me. He deserves a job,

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you know. And now I'm shootingfor, you know, backing him
up. So if something happened,he goes, he goes down, I'm
ready to step in and play justas well as he did. Yeah,
but hopeful, hopefully that's the mentalitythey have, especially the guys who don't
win it. And I'm still gonnaI'm still out here every day and work
my tail off because you never know, you never know, what was my
first player of the season. Youknow, somebody can go down, and

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you got to be ready. I'mready. You ready. I don't think
I'm ready, but I think you'reready. Well we'll take a commercial,
right, try to get him ready. Use the Broncos Country to night right
here on Ka Way, Welcome toit. Broncos Country at tonight. Benjamin
Alright, Gret Smith, the man, the myth, the mustache, every
button on his shirt open, justlooking like a magician with the you know

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with how deep that with it?So he does magic for a living.
Look of that. You know,you see the button the buttons, Man,
I've never done that one for youknow what you like? I did
this for Ryan one time because Ryanused to button all the way up.
I'm like, bront you Ryan isright now? Yeah? Well Ryan would
do the button down all the waybutton down shirt, button all the way
to the top. And I'm like, bro, uh, you look like
an accountant right now. Many time, like ease up, you're not wearing

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a necktime. Maybe he's up alittle there, like one button, you
know, okay, I can breathe. Two buttons says I like to live
comfortably. Three buttons says I livedangerously, and anything else on button says
I do magic or I lead singinga rock band for a living. And
so that was the scale of buttondown shirt. I did that that kind
of rock band until you don't talkingabout the eighties, say right you know?
Yeah? So he was uh,he got a kick out of that.

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He was like, wait a minute, what's the scale again? The
where I'm like one to two buttonsthat's your home. One to two buttons
undone that's where you live. That'sit. I'm worse would right two to
three buttons is where I live.Anybody anything more than that? And you
you know you do card tricks fora living. Well, this is only
a two button shirt, so I'vegot both of them on button. Oh,
I just saw some hassle off chesthair smear the top there. You
gotta let the chest hair breathe.Brother, listen, Tom Selleck, you

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gotta do what you gotta do.Man five six six years and text Loan
and I appreciate that from the twofive to two Ben. Statements like that
prove you're a veteran. I hatedwhen someone got in trouble because I was
getting called in drunk at six amto listen to flight chief yell at us
and then the operations officer chew usout, and then the flight commander chew
us out talk about how disappointed heIsn't this That's how it is in the
army, Like every single boss iscoming into chew you out. Before you

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know, everybody up the up theladder's coming into chew you out. It's
never for everybody who they were agood time. Brian texted it and said,
Ben, the Broncos were two andfour against Jim Kelly, the Steve
Atwater, they were one and oneagainst Dan Marino, one of two against
Troy Aikman, zho and two againstSteve Young, one and two against Far,
five and one against Warren Moon,one and three against Joe Montana.
Overall record, I believe it waseleven and fifteen that Water intercepting six passes

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against those guys, two against JimKelly, one each against Moon, far
of Aikman and Marino. You interceptthat, Renal, Did you keep any
of those balls? Literally? Iprobably have someone to get in a game
ball. No, not the exactball. But I never did that.
Never got ball take it over yourhold? It never did. No,
No, but you know I getgame balls. I got a bunch of

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game balls. Is there any isthere any one, like, for instance,
interception that stands out more than it? Like you're like, man,
that one, that's that's my youknow? Uh, the one touchdown I
got about eleventh tenth year, who'dyou was it pick off or fumble?
You know? It was a tiptip pass, okay, and I ran

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it in. But it wouldn't itwasn't really, it wouldn't that spectacular.
But it was. It stands outbecause it's my only touchdown. Well that
I mean, that's that's cool though, I mean one in college. He
had four years and then uh Ihad one NFL in eleven, I had
zero, so in zero so I'mjust saying, yeah, that's I mean

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it was was that was with Denverthough, right, yeah, okay,
all right, yeah, that's alot of stats there. I didn't beat
Montana. I remember, beat beatMontana once once. Okay, Kansas City,
yeah, yeah, but I getthey got us in one game.
Man, last play of the game, just about we run defense. Our

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cornerback and safety had the outside receiverdouble team and he still Guffrey and then
in the corner let him get outside. Who was the receiver? Trying to
think who that would have been backthen with j Burton or one of those
guys, yep, Dawson. Buthe got outside and they scored a touchdown.

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Like come on, man, Igoes sometimes. But Joe, Joe
was nice, man, Joe wasa good quarterback. It looks like,
yeah, let's say, you guys, never beat Steve Young, you beat
all the other You never beat neverbeat stev you beat every you beat all
the other quarterbacks that you played againstthere in the Hall of Fame except Steve
Young, which, by the way, is interestingly enough, Steve Young was
set to become a Denver Bronco.What Steve Young was going to become a

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Denver Bronco and wife talk him intoretiring because of the concussions, No way,
Yeah, he was going to hewas at the end of his career.
Yeah, it was. Did heplay quite a few as to the
back. Look, I can't rememberexactly how many. I mean, he
got drafted what eighty eight I thinkby the Bucks? Okay, so,
and then he played on I meanit was a while, so close to
the close to fifteen years, It'slike eighty eighty five to ninety nine something
like that. It was eighty eightyfive he got drafted by the Bucks and

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yeah, eighty five ninety nine,Yeah, that's right. And then he
was going to come to the Broncosafter Lway. He was going to be
the successor to John Elway. Wow, and uh yeah. Then he ended
up his wife ended up talking toevery joy. Yeah, he was,
he was getting hit, he washaving well. Yeah, he only played
three games at ninety nine because ofthe concussion issues. And all that he
had to play the full season sinceninety four. So I think when the

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fans saw him laying on the groundand they see other quarterbacks getting killed,
that's why the rules a little wherethey are now, Well, yeah,
he's ticking the quarterbacks. You know, a lot of guys complain about it,
but at the same time we understandwe if the quarterback, your quarterbacks
hurt, you're gonna have a lowchance of playing a good football game,
right. And I think it's funnybecause a lot of people credit Tom Brady

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and Peyton Manning and maybe those guyswoofed at the you know, at the
at the competition committee enough that itfinally got over the finish line. But
I really do feel like it wasthe guys like Steve Young with the with
the concussions and Farv and those guysthat I think you look back at the
tape and say, you know what, we got to do a little bit
better job of trying to protect this. We don't want the game to become
flag football. But at the sametime, we can do Uh, there

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is a way to protect this.So I suppose they would protect defense.
That's the way they protect It's funnyto me. There's one of the rules
that that favors the defense and Ilove that gets the most outrage on social
media is the fumbling it through theend zone. It becomes a touchback.
Oh yeah, and everybody, anyonethe offense shouldn't lose the ball. That

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just did lose. They literally lostthe ball. I never understand. And
they try to get people to changeit, and the competition committee every the
tablet every year, okay, andthen they never change it. That's yes,
man, we have no room thatgo go in our favor trying to
take everything away. A five toten one hundred and ninety pounds safety hits
a six six two hundred and seventypound tight end at the goal line,

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hits him, and the offense youget the ball, but high because he
fumbled it. No, they'll callhim like a targeting or something. Yeah.
Yeah, he hit him in hishelmet. Where else is gonna hit
him? Yeah, anywhere else isgonna run over them, bro, But
you know, you know somebody mysize, I'm gonna hit that guy.
It's gonna a mosquito on a windshield. What do you what are we doing
here? Oh? Bullet flags?It was it. The one time I

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saw somebody square up it was ohMan Banjo was the DC. It was
Bryce Callahan when Derek Henry. Whenyou open with the Titans, the games
are locked out, hurt or whatever, or they didn't get hurt, but
they've got hurt. The next gamewith the Steelers, the yeah, Bryce
Callahan squared up on Derek can shuthim down, like set him down.
And I was like, okay,okay, I could do this. And

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then I was like no, no, no, no, no, I
can't do this. Hey, hey, Bryce, Hey he's staying in shape.
He did It's he always something.Yeah, he only ever played like
half a season, I think mostof the time because he was you know's
I mean he literally was my size, like weight, like literally my size.
But man, ide no fear likeI loved I loved it. I
saw I saw square up on hlike I said, on Derreck Henry and

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sit him down. I was like, okay, all right, you just
earn your strike, You just doyou hear your spot. You know how
much courage that things, though,Yeah, because I don't have it,
I know how much it doesn't take. Because I don't have it. I'm
not stopping. I'm not sitting DerrickHenry down. If Derrick can reyturned the
corner, I one on the otherway, be chasing you up. Yes,
I'm fullback leading for him at thatpoint. You never know, man,

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I think you got it. No, I think you got it.
It's like there's like two guys thatI wouldn't ever. It's like handing Mike
Alstott, no way, no bleepingaway Mike. If you like, go
back and watch the highlights of michaeal Stott and I'm like, man,
that dude, h man, thatdude didn't care. He was seeking contact.
No what a guy name from wayback in the day with the Miami

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Dolphins with the funny helmet the runningback. Come on, man, you
know is that mean not Mercury Morrissoccer? Uh? You erming? The
other day he was talking about sowasn't he was in the news the other
day when he was talking about Uh, somebody asked him somebody had done a
rankings or whatever and they ranked theirteam number one, you know all the
time. And he's like, doesthat help solidify that for you? And

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he's like, no, we werenoumble, we are number one. We
were on the got salty okay Ida, I mean they were the old team
that were going defeated. Yeah,so, I you know, soccer was
a beast though. Boy, yeahhe was. The whole team was.
I mean, to be fair,the whole team was was something else.
But Zaca was. He was thatdude back in the day. We're talking.

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You do the break, man,you got uh you got blood.
That's about to be in the Olympics, right yeah. Man. Uh my
cousin, Shelby McEwan. I've onlymet him one time, but man,
I'm super proud of he. Uh. Actually in the twenty twenty Olympics he
got the silver medal, and uh, he's in I guess whatever they're doing
the pre Olympics now US Olympic trials. Yes, Olympic trials. There we

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go, So he has to gothrough that before he can get in the
like actual like the Olympic Olympics.Yeah, but he's already been. He
was in the Olympics in what wasit, twenty twenty It was Tokyo,
my Marana. I was asking Grant, I have no idea. I don't
know. Okay, I'm terrible atthis. I should I should know things
like this, so I should Ireally just don't matter if I'm looking at
a picture of right now, yeahsix, it is not your body type.

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This was three one hundred and sixtyfive. Say he's sixty three my
weight? Yeah, yeah, yourmy weight. You got a pop though.
I'm looking at him here, I'mlike, man, uh, this
is photoshop. There's no way theydo jump that high. But I mean
he really did so. Yes,they were in Tokyo in twenty twenty yea,
it is in twenty twenty four,in just about a month. Yeah,
so he's going to be doing theuh hopefully the men's high jump.

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He got a silver medal in Tokyo. We're pulling for him here. So
now now you guys have somebody toroot for in the olymp Sheldon Q and
U uh, Steve's cousin. Theyhang out every day. Uh you know,
they go to uh, they goto fudd Wreckers on the weekend,
split their fries, which which wasfunny. That conversation got started because we
were like, how much do Olympicathletes make? Because I got curious about
this, and so we start talkingabout this and apparently it is not much

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money at all. Bro. Theygot to have some endorsements. I was
I was saying because I was like, how much does a professional high jumper
make? You know, like howdoes it? You know that kind of
thing. And I'm like, youknow those guys, Yeah, the gold
medal gives what Well, this isthe thing. So he's a professional hydrop
But I'm like, this guy's gotto make what six figures a year to
be a little for training and allthat kind of stuff. Man, you
know what you get for a goldmedal? Fifty dollars? Come on,
man, fifty grand for a goldmedal. And you know he got a

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training, that's supposed to say,he got a silver medal. And when
they were in Beijing, US Olympiaswere paid thirty seven to five thirty seven
thousand, five hundred dollars for silvermedal. He needs where's the other?
Uh? The highest the highest inSingapore. In Singapore, if you uh,
if you have a gold medal,they pay out seven hundred and thirty
seven thousand dollars individual to gout.So, by the way, fifty thousand.

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Imagine you're only on the relay team. Fifty grand gets put four ways,
you get twelve five? How didn'tcover my meals? Yeah? Something.
Say, does he have like asecond job. I'm gonna have like
a second joby dude was talking about, oh go to the Olympics. High
job. I'm sure you are nowbringing my fries. I'm uh, I'm
gonna pay you after I win theOlympic. Yeah, uh huh, you

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can get me back. Get yourgash man, I got you, bro?
How much is your plane ticket overthere? But I'm sure they have
I mean they cover you doors likewhat you have to. I mean you
think about what was it from here? The Jerby bloom and especially how how
large the Olympics are. Come on, man, have you win an Olympic
gold medal or a silver medal orbronze medal. You've done something spectacular that

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a very small percentage of the peoplehave done. I mean very small.
I mean how many people you knowthe one? I know more people that
won Super Bowls and I know havewon Olympic medals. Same. We're in
that uh, we're in that groupof people. It's where what right you
guys? Hee the VP behind theVIP. They don't even let me in
the club. But I'm in thealley out back by the dumps. We're

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we're in the group here, justthe same up the upper echelon of upper
echelonts man, your gold medal superBowls. I mean that's that is no,
no, no, no, I'mtalking about you and I. We're
in this football bubble where I'm surethe track bubble is totally different. I
mean probably, although you and Iare in different bubbles in the bubble here,
like you're in the Super Bowl winnerbubble and I'm in the weird guy

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with a microphone who talks about it. That's a good question, that's a
good point. He's a good pointsometimes looking at it. I'm literally looking
at it now. I've been deepdiving on this now. And apparently there
are like endorsements endorsement deals, andthat's how they do this, like the
shoes and the you know, thegear or whatever like that's that's literally it
because as a high jumper, there'sreally not much. You got like a
span next thing and you got someshoes, yeah, and that's it.

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So there's really not much for youto endorse besides like food, either food
products, supplement beverages or this kindof stuff. And there's guys talking about
how they make ends meet. I'mlike, so down the rabbit hole on
this. Oh man, yeah,man, you took to another level.
I was just letting you know,man, my cousins man, he's I'm
just how old is you cousin?Like is he? I mean he was
in the last Olympics, So he'sin his twenties or something, right,
Uh born nineteen ninety six, sowhat twenty eight? Uh yeah, yeah

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we're twenty Okay, So that's itbecause like I was like, if he
was in college, now he getnil money. Nope, that dope man
missed that nal money. It wastoo late two or three years ago.
Yeah, you gonna get your backcut on that. They spiffy back now.
Only I don't do that, Okay, I wish yeah, yeah,
give me, yeah, give methe send me the checks from the yeah

(32:43):
back in the day that I hthat I'll be missing interest on that that's
been sitting in the sitting in thepot for years. Yeah, just give
me give me five thousand. Yeahabout that. Let's just cut me off
check real quick. He'd be good. Uh five six, six nine zeros.
The text line, you guys gotany more questions for Steve Atwater brianus
to know if I guess how manyinterceptions Dion collected against all those quarterbacks.
I have no idea. Ooh,I have no idea. By the way,

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the seven to zero though, says, I worked with a guy at
home Depot who was a silver medallistin track and field. He worked there
while he was training for the twothousand Olympics. Wow, yeah, this
is I think this is crazy.If I'm gonna go down the rabbit hole
on this next five show, wehave his Wednesday, So I'm gonna go
down the rabbit hole on this alittle bit and sort of figure out,
like an East Olympic athlete, likeyou really have to do it for love

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the sport, if you're picking up, if you're if you're hoping, the
pinnacle of what you can achieve isfifty grand if you get first place every
four years. But the thing isI think also is that they may not
be doing it for the money.Well, I mean you clearly he can't
be doing it for the money.He's a terrible investment. Twelve five a
year if you average it out overthe four year gap in between there,

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I mean, it's a terrible investment. But is this how football used to
be? Yeah? I mean,but David that you may you love the
money that you got, but youweren't necessarily playing just to get a check.
You're playing. And there are allthe guys now that play for for
a check plenty. I mean,I know some guys that play for a
check Nowaday. You know the guyswho make business decisions, Yeah, there
there's a lot of those. Now. There are guys that use football in

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those checks to subsidize other cares,for instance, a rap career. I
know of a specific punter that usedto do that. I think we all
do. But anyway, Steve wasgood to see it again. I'm gonna
go down a rabbit hole on thisand I'll be rooting for your your cousin
man a man man. I appreciateit, but absolutely broucous Country and Night
rolls on after this