07-11-24 Hour 1 of Broncos Country Tonight

Episode Transcript

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Welcome to it Broncos Country tonight,but with all Brian mcferguson Grant Smith Tony
Man has hit on the story duringthe break. Apparently Flavor Flave has agreed
to be the US women's water poloteam's hype Man Flame Course sixty five,
the founding member of hype Man forPublic Enemy, jumped headfirst into his new
duties, literally jumping in a poolwith a twenty four jersey on apparently women's

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water polo I did not know this. He's actually like really dominant as they
are going for their fourth consecutive gold, which is unprecedented in Olympic history.
Oh boy. Flave apparently has beenphilanthropic all over the place lately. Recently,
on Instagram, he ordered one itemoff, one of each item on

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the menu from Red Lobster in aneffort to save them from bankruptcy because he
loves the cheddar Bay biscuits so much. Hey, I'm in post a part
of that one. He posted apicture of himself standing there with a little
bit of everything, saying you boysaid he was going to do everything to
help Red Lobster and save the hadto bake biscuits, order the whole menu.
Red Lobster, to their credit,has now launching the Flavor Flave menu

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after he attempted to do so.It's not officially on the menu, but
you have to ask your your serverwhat flavor flaves faves are at Red Lobster.
You gotta give Red Lobster a try, because the signature meal is hype.
Boy says flave. I don't flavorflav Flavor Flame's like sixty five,
but he's acted like he's still thirtyfive. You know what. I love
everything about this. I know whenwhen Tony brought it up, I was

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just like, wait a minute,flavor flav and water polo in this water
plo something about that doesn't mix.But after looking into it just a little
more, Yeah, I think thisis great because when we think about the
Olympics, there's certain sports that getgone on a lot of attention. Basketball,
yes, it, diving, trackand field skating, yes, but

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but never water polo like that.Even rhythmic gymnastics, right, yeah,
I don't think it the same thing. Right now Will Farrell twirling the you
know and doing the jumps or whatever. You dude, if you ever watch
that, it is fascinating, liketo see the participants throw a little ball
up in the air and catch upat the back of their foot, in

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the back of their head. Mylegs and hamstrings are screaming. But yes,
that's a lot of talent. Ican't I can't do that. I'm
the Olympics because all these sports thatyou never hear about any other time of
the year, you can see thebest of the best. What's the what's
the shuffle board? One? Curling, curling, curling? See, that's
a Canadian thing. And when I'mand I saw that, I was just

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like, man, that's just shuffleboardon ice right, basically Canadian citizens.
So that six zero I was gonnamake a true du Jokelet go the three
h three, says my elementary viceprince or my elementary principal. Excuse me,

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promise to kiss a lama if theyread enough book. They read so
many books. I'm sure they did. Now, Nick Ferguson will not make
no no, I will not makeyour problem. No no, no,
no, baby lama drama. Whatpizza parties, Yaya? I'm here for
the pizza parties for sure. Reallyquickly back on this whole Olympic thing.

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Granted, I love the Summer Olympicsbecause you know, I only get track
and feel. For me, Ilove watching water polo. But one of
the bigger things I love watching Iwatch with my family synchronized swimming. Yeah
to phenomenal because for me, Idon't like heights and I don't like diving,
and they're diving from a platform thatseemed like it's ten stories and then

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you have to hit the water withvery minimal splash. That's like you said,
that's funny. Did you mention that. When I was on my final
tour at Rack, we stayed ata an air Force base in the Wrack
that had an Olympic pool. Thatair Force base, it was an Iraqi
Air Force base, and they hadan Olympic pool diving. The Iraqi team

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had done that right, and sothey had the super high dive and all
that kind of stuff. And itwas hilarious to me how many guys you
had and gals in military uniforms outthere risking their lives diving off they were
afraid to get on the day theywould climb up there like nope, it
came climbing right back down. Man. That's a whole different level of confront

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because first of all, you haveto first climb up, walk out on
a platform, and then you lookdown right on. Usually when you are
of high people always tell you don'tlook down, donnle leok down, But
if you're diving, got no otherchoice you have. Well, and then
you had like the guys that there'sthe people that were afraid, right,
and then you had the people onthe complete other end of the spectrum that

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are idiots and don't have fear whenthey should. Yes, And one of
those guys jumped off and did nothit a dive and landed like on it
knocked the window. They had tobe pulled out of the pool. After
that they put a little like greatthing there locking it. Nobody there on
the on the Olympic high dive,we all had to use like the regular
diving board. You guys ever likejumped off a bridge or anything in your
teenage years, jumped off the roofwell wait, wait a minute, I'm

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sorry jumping off where the bridge abridge the river? See, bridges were
made for you to drive over thewater, not to dive off of.
Used to dive off one in ourat our in my hometown that was like
thirty feet high and we would jumpoff of it. Every summer we had
the cliffs at Griers Ferry in Arkansasused to jump off jump off cliffs.

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This is not not cliff diving.Hey, shout out, Cossa Benita.
I finally got to go, ohdid you Yeah? And man, it
was a blast. It was kindoft the same whatever. But the drinks
are strong. Drinks were very strong. Lords. The drinks are strong.
The entertainment like we went and sawthis like magic show is actually yeh,

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a little downstairs. Yeah, that'sso funny, isn't it? Or whatever
it was, I can't remember itwas. It was pretty funny. So
how were you able to contain yourselfand not try to cliff dive knowing as
though you're diving off of bridges?Well, because they say that you'll be
uh kicked out of Costa beIN forever. Don't they say the same thing if
they get you diving off a bridgesomewhere. Well, yeah, but you

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don't get caught jumping off. Youcan see traffic both ways. Did you
eat the skyline shurely before you doveoff? You got that bad recipe.
I don't know if you guys sawat the Grant and I were talking about
it the U the soccer match betweenColombia and Uganda. Uruguay you're Aguay,
sorry, you're a guy. Andthe Iruguay uh players went up in the

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stands. You've seen this, No, it is so okay, Yeah,
Darwin nouna. They go up throwingpunches, all this kind of stuff.
It was like malicon p oh,it gave that more than a money.
Okay, tell me as to Columbiaone one nothing and Uruguay we I don't
know the Columbia fan were heckling orwhatever, but the Yuguay players went up
into the stands and Darwin unia Isconnected on the only shot that he connected
on that evening by punching a fanthere in the stands. And it just

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brought back memories of Ted Lasso whenIsaac goes into the stands, you know,
after the fan or whatever. Isit ever acceptable to go into the
stands. No, it's not inUS sports, I guess unwritten laws.
But we're talking about soccer, especiallyfrom an international standpoint. I thought everything

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was on the books like that.That was kind of typical behavior that you're
going in the stands like bands weknow are part of the game and they
heckle the players on the field.I mean even there there was a video
I think when when Messi first cameto the United States was down to Florida.
I mean there were fans like jumpingover secure barriers to run and grab

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him. So fans coming out ofthe stands, players going in. That's
typical soccer behavior from international standpoint.Have you ever seen the videos of Messi?
All the compilation videos of Messi's bodyguardkeeping keeping people. Yes, Sar,
he's getting paid. He deserves everyI saw a video that now too,
like a year ago. I thinkthe compilation clips of all the people
trying to get close to him hisbodyguard taking them out as hilarious. Yeah.

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Uh. It was a physical,contentious match, soccer match. Melee
broke out behind the Yuruguay bench afterMexican referees is aar Ramos's final whistle.
The crowd seventy one thousand people inattendance was about ninety percent in favor of
Columbia, but a small patch ofYuruguay fans fought with Columbia supporters. Beverages
were thrown. Nunyas and his teammatesclimbed the staircase into the crowd. Uh

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video shows Nunya is hitting a fan. Uruguay captain was a Menez said the
players went into the crowd to protecttheir families. But anyway it was,
it was it said it was adisaster. There was a disaster. Not
a single police officer security person there. Took more than ten minutes for police
to arrive on scene and restore order. The public couldress. Announcer ask for
fans to leave, but most ofthem stayed. About one hundred Yearuguayan fans

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and members of the Federation staff weremade on the field for their own protection
more than twenty minutes after the game, while Columbia fans made the way out
celebrating. You know what that remindsme of. That reminds me of when
I was playing for the New YorkJets. We went to play the Raiders
in the playoff game and there wasa raucous crowd going in, I mean,
obscene language, throwing the eggs atour bus, going in and going

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out. And I would always tellfriends and family don't come to these games
because if something happens in the stands, I can't help. You. Don't
wear any Broncos gear, don't wearany Jets gear, and the air tells
of individuals being roughed up after thegame, and there's a police present,

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but they feel as though they areoverwhelmed by the individuals going to the game,
that they themselves don't do anything.And a lot of times, you
know, as we get on thebus, you can see things taking place
out in the parking lot, butit's just like you can't do anything about
it. We've seen we've seen evidenceof that over the last couple of years.
I mean, with cell phone videosbeing what they are now, we
see a lot more of the evidenceof those services fighting right their old fans.

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He's utterly ridiculous. Is stupid inthis particular case, I mean,
Darvithgunia has had his kid up.Apparently it was his family, like his
kids, his young kids were therewell, and he was I'm going to
stand I'm sorry, coach, thinkthat's what I was going to is there
was no security at this Uh policetook ten minutes to get there and he
went up there to you know,to go take his family on the U
onto the field to get them security. So just just interesting, uh interesting

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with that one. I I thatfeels like a massive oversight in terms of
what should have happened with security protecting. See, that's different. If my
family is an attendance at a gameand something like that happens, you're gonna
have to find me, You're gonnahave to cut me. I'm going into
freaking stands and whatever I have todo to make sure that my loved ones

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are protected, then I have todo that. Yeah, this was a
little bit, but anyway, there'ssome video out there where somebody's holding his
kid down there on the field afterhe wentness stands to go get him and
console with him and all that kindof stuff. So I felt a little
bit better about that. I didn'twant to talk about this Myke Gundy thing.
I don't know if you saw itor not, money not suspending his
star running back, one of thebest players in college football, the Doc
Award winner, you know, Gordonand cleaning in there, Dug Grant.

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We have the audio and then goahead and run that audio. So I
looked it up on my phone.What would be the legal limit like in
Oklahoma's point eight and Allie was pointone. So I looked it up and
it was based on body weight.Not to get into the legal side of
it, but I thought, really, two or three beers or four,

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I'm not justifying with all he did. I'm telling you what decision I made.
Well, I thought, I've probablydone that a thousand times in my
life, and I'm you know,it's just fine. So I got lucky.
People get lucky. All he madea decision that he wished you could
have done better. But when Italked to Olie, I told him said,
you're lucky you got out light becauseyou make a lot of money to

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play football. As Mike Gundy onthe Ali Gordon situation, and basically the
clip that I was looking for isthe one where he said that he didn't
suspend it because it would be detrimentalto the rest of the team, Like,
what would be the point in suspendingin one game? Is that even
enough punishment? And I could suspendhim six but that just hurts the team
and I have an obligation there.I didn't agree with that. And then
of course there's that clip as wellwhere he basically admits to drunk driving like

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a thousand times, but he alsosaid that I guess his punishment for Ali
Gordon would be giving him a significantamount of carries in a given game.
Now, listen, things have changedon the college landscape where coaches jobs are
in jeopardy. And before college athleteshad four scholarship I mean four year scholarship

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that they renewed every single year.Well, with the introduction to the transfer
portal, nils gods can hop,skip jump and go to another team in
a moment, so coaches have toconstantly recruit their own players. So I
understand the mindset of what coach Gundyis saying, but I don't agree with
the message itself, because if youleft led a guy off the hook,

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and I know we all have mademistakes, it's not a person that is
alive unless you are Jesus Christ himself, which I know none of us are.
We've all made mistakes and we couldtry to kind of warter them down,
like some mistakes are worse than others. No mistake is a mistake,
as a sin is a sin.But you have to put some barriers in
place to make sure that players willnot break the certain rules that you have.

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Well, it's the other thing.The legal system is going to take
care of the legal portion of it. But in football, we've always had
the higher standard. We have acode of conduct. This is what we're
going to do locker rooms like that. And it felt to me like that
Mike Gundhy had created first class citizensand second class citizens. And you,
having been coached by I would toask you specifically, you got coached by
the master Bill Purselves, and hedidn't have second lessons. It was the

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same. How would that affor withBill Parcells, he'd have been out of
there. Yeah, yes, likedone done, done done, see you
sorry? And not because the wholeidea is that you have to dictate your
culture as the head guy the brassbecause there's a saying in sports, either

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you're coaching or you're allowing it tohappen. Right, So if you don't
really do anything to press the buttonon, this type of behavior will not
be tolerated by the guy who's awalk on in the back of the locker
room, the guy who runs outfirst hole in the flag, we are
not going to tolerate it. Whenyou don't put your foot down, you
are saying that, okay, theseguys over here, you're different than everyone

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else. I think the biggest thingfor me was in the limited time that
I played is the big thing withstandards. We have standards, but if
you make exceptions to the standards,then you don't have standards at all,
and that undermines your credibility as acoach because you cut your own legs out
from under you by creating a systemwhere that these people get preferential treatment because
they're good, and those people don'tbecause you haven't seen them play yet.

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You know, this is the thingthat I loved about Bill Parcells. He
had very strict rules and he wasa no holds barred type of coach and
was very terrifying for me as ayoung player coming into the league. But
I grew to understood stand why hewas doing what he was doing because as

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a young player coming in and watchingBill Parcells yell at a Curtis Martin or
Vinny Testaverdi, obviously that sets thepace for the culture because everyone knows if
he's going to do this to thetop guys, everyone else is gonna fall
the line. And this is theone thing that I love about, you
know, Bill Parcells, because hetreated everyone the same. It wasn't kind

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of a difference in how we treatedguys. Yeah, and that's That's the
thing. I wanted to talk toyou about that just because I saw it
and I was like, oh,I bet Nick Ferguson's having a field day
right now. Absolutely, So whenwe come back, Ryan Michael joins us
you listen to Broncos Country Tonight,Kiowa. Welcome back to it, Broncos
Country Tonight. Benjamin ol Bright,Nick Ferguson, Grant Smith here with you.
Good to be back in the fulllive show format. Obviously programming note

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next week we will have full liveshows Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday and Thursday,
although the Republican National Convention, Ido believe is has some stuff going
on Thursday, so there's a possibilitywe may be carrying some of that here
on KOA as well. Where weare in news talk and sports station.
We can go right to the kaComments Sparrel hotline and bring on our guy,
Ryan Michael. Ryan, how's itgoing, Buddy? Doing well?

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Then? Nick, how are youguys tonight doing doing pretty well? We
had an interesting start to the show. A presidential comments sort of derailed the
beginning there that we had going on. But we think we've hit our stride
here and it's good to hear yourvoice back to go a little bit inside
the numbers, and I want toknow what you what you want to start

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with tonight. Well, you know, I think we left off last week.
We're just talking about what are theexpectations should be for the twenty and
twenty four draft class. And I'vesaid this number of times and I'll say
it again. I'm very high onthe twenty twenty four draft class for two
reasons. Essentially. The first isgiven the salary cap call out from letting

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Russell Wilson go, We're obviously fightingwith one arm tied behind our back and
without having a second round draft selection. You know, we went into the
draft itself without a lot of ammunition. And when I look at the players
that we took in the draft,for me, fit is always one of
the most important things. I'm notof the mindset to take a guy just

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for the sake of taking the guy. You want to get somebody who fits
your system and fits the need thatyou have. So you know, bo
Nix was the second highest rated quarterbackon my board after Caleb Williams, and
I understand that I was in theminority for seeing him that way, but
time will tell. We'll see ifthat's a good caller or not. But

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what I especially appreciate about bow isthat his strengths fits on Peyton's strength.
We're coming in as a team whereunder Russell Wilson tintished twenty seventh in tack
percentage. That seemed to be oneof the biggest points of contention, and
so we draft a quarterback who setthe NCAA single season completion percentage mark that
he was also the least sad quarterbackin college football at one point one percent

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of his dropbacks. I looked atour defense as a unit that struggled to
generate pressure, so we bring inJanah Allis, who was seventh in all
of college football in sacks, asecond amongst different two players taken in the
draft. I looked at our team. We finished twenty eighth in rushing touchdowns
last year. We didn't produce onthe ground. So you get Audrick Estimating

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in the fifth round, and he'sa guy who rushed for eighteen touchdowns last
year, eleven of them. We'rein the final five games. So if
you look at the players that wegot, at the spots that we got,
not only do I think that theywere a fantastic fit for the systems
that we're going to be running onboth offense and defense. But I think
we got tremendous value because we gotthe second best quarterback in the draft on

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paper, just my own personal opinion, at the twelfth spot, and I
think Joe Allis is easily a secondround caliber draft prospect, perhaps even first
round wasn't helping. You can't reallyask for anything better on paper than that
then, and that's really all thatwe can talk about until the preseason gets
rugged up, all right, right. I'm glad that you led off with

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that because we've seen since George Paydonhas been here as GM, a lot
of his draft picks play early,and they play in key rows and are
very productive. Of the guys youjust listed right now, just doing a
little forecasting, I know we haven'tseen, you know, any practices yet
or any preseason games, but whowould you forecast is probably at the start
of the season. Let's go smallsymba size week four. Right, that's

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a novel right there that you thinkwill make a larger impact with the Broncos
early on in the season. That'sa great question, Nick, And when
I look at the players that wedrafted. I'm still of the mindset that
I feel Bonnicks will start geting one. I don't think it's a sure thing.
I do think he will be theeventual starter. So is it possible

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that Jared Sidham gets us going weekone? It's possible. I think Jared
as a short term solution. Weall know what the future is going to
be. So Bonnicks if he doesplay Week one, and I don't expect
for him to light the league up. That's not his style of football.
I think he's the kind of playerthat once he gets acclimated to Shan system,
we're eventually going to see that efficiencydown the line, perhaps at the

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end of season one, maybe towardsthe beginning of season two. I'll tell
you, if Jonah Ellis can behealthy, I think that he might be
an early contender for Defensive Lookie ofthe Year. I'm very excited to see
what he's going to be able todo. Advance Joseph As. I mean,
he was just one of the mostexplosive edge rushers on tape of any
player in the drop, one ofthe most explosive players that we've seen in

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years. So if I had topick one, specific player to make an
early impact. I would go JohnAllis if he's healthy. One of the
things that you brought up there,I want to go back to with bo
Nicks, because what you described thequarterback that's efficient doesn't necessarily like the World
on Fire gets in Sean Payton's systemand sort of succeeds. Describes a quarterback
that Broncos fans have already seen.What's the difference between Bo Nicks and Teddy

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Bridgewater The difference between Bonnicks and TeddyBridgewaters. Teddy was very proficient at doing
the simple things with consistency. AndI know that bow has been knocked quite
a bit for his alleged lack ofability to be proficient in the deep passing
game. And if you look ata lot of the Pro Football focus marks

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that we've talked about over the pastfew weeks, you'll see that in the
intermediate game, Balls arguably the mostefficient quarterback in kind of football, and
tearing him obviously with Troy Franklin,I suspect to seven stretch the field,
not down and down out. ButI do see them connecting here and there
anyway that you wouldn't have seen outof Teddy Bridgewater. So Bridgewater brought the

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experience, and you could make theargument that if we could take Teddy Bridgewater
in a time machine from his openingdays as a den le Bronco and paired
him up with Donicks, he mighteven get similar results in the first few
games. Bonix is a long terminvestment, not a short term investment.
I believe his seeling is quite high. Well, Ryan, what did you
stand on this idea that a quarterbackthrowing the checkdown? Because the idea when

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I played was you can't go broketaking a profit. But with the I
guess everyone leaning more towards explosive plays. It just seems as though everyone has
falling away from taking the six yardfive yard checkdown and putting the ball in
your best player's hands. Once again, where do you come down on that
viewpoint? I would say that ifyou have a quarterback who is at the

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very top of the league in termsof efficiency in executing the quick game,
this is what Drew Brees was thegreatest of all time in doing so.
If he looked to his final seasonin twenty twenty, he had arguably the
weakest farm strength of any starting quarterbackI've seen in over a decade, but
he still completed routinely nearly seventy fivepercent of his passes. Now, I

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don't believe that Bunix is Drew Brees. I've affectionately referred to him as Drew
Brees white with a little bit ofdeals. But I do think that he
has the ceiling potential over time todevelop in a similar in a similar vein
to what Drew Brees did the moretime he had in Sean Payton's system.
So if he can reach even apoor man's version of that level and he

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can complete with any kind of regularitysixty nine to seventy seventy one percent of
his passes, it's a very differentstyle of football than the quarterbacks who are
taking the checkdowns just because they're notcapable of doing anything else. It's a
matter of muscle memory, and it'sa matter of experience within the system.
And I think that if he startsweek one or starts early by week four,

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as you had mentioned, that that'sgoing to give him a significant advantage
heading into the year two. That'swhen I think we're going to start to
see the biggest results coming out fromhis development. Talking with Ryan Michael at
the Ryan Michael on Twitter, everybodyfans are always excited about their draft classes,
the top to bottom. We gotall our guys. These guys are

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all going to be stars, areall going to be studs. You know.
There's been some recent articles about oldestme fifth round or one hundred and
forty seventh pick, that he couldmaybe even make a play for the starting
job, you know, things likethat. But how realistic is that when
we look for when we look backat history, what are some historical comps
for players taking kind of at thesame position in the same spot in the
draft. Well as high as Iam on audrich Sma, I see him

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as more of a red zone aguy who may produce rushing touchdowns similar to
what we'll get Blunt did in thePatriot system with Tom Brady. Bear in
mind, bone Nicks is not TomBrady, and our system is not exactly
the system that New England ran withsuch efficiency for so long. We have
to work all way towards that.So I look at a number of the

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players taken in the draft this year. I mean, we took Jay Cutler
at number eleven in two thousand andsix, so that's the closest spot in
terms of a comparison to bon Nicksand Jay Cutler, for whatever happened later
in his career in Chicago, actuallyplayed fairly efficient football during his first three
years, and we started to seehim take off in year three, setting
a Bronco's single season record for passingyards. While Alzado in terms of an

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edge rusher, he has taken seventynine in nineteen eighty five, so we
had join Alice taken at seventy six. If he can perform anywhere close to
the level that Alzato did, thatwould be a very nice ceiling. The
reality is, statistically, at allof the positions, especially quarterback, a
percentage of these draft picks are goingto work out. So as much as

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it's easy to point to one specificstatistic and say, are running back like
audire estimate fills a hole here,let's just start him in RB one,
is it possible. It's certainly possible, But history tells us that a percentage
of these draft picks are not goingto be long term solutions in terms of
starting players playing at a high level. It's just a matter of who's going

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to be the boom, who's goingto be the bust. Now you say
boom and buzz. It's always highrisk, high reward. But when you
look at the idea of starting arookie quarterback, what would you say to
the listening audience as far as whatare your rewards or what do you can
see the risk might be at thistime, and once again speaking and say

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both Nicks is the starter for theDenver Broncos. That's a great question.
I would say the benefits for startingearly if you are a quarterback who has
it in your fabric to develop intothe kind of quarterback you hope to get
taking the guy in the twelve spot, the benefits are you have exposure to
the system, You're acquiring knowledge,You're growing greater familiarity. The muscle memory,

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even athletic muscle memory in terms ofgetting those game time reps, as
you know, is very different fromjust the reps in practice. The spatial
awareness, the on field visual familiarityin terms of what's happening at the next
level. I think it would beimpossible to overstate just how important that is.
The downside this double edged sword,the risk that comes with that is

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if you're a team that isn't preparedto surround your starting quarterback with success the
way that the Chiefs did for PatMahomes in twenty eighteen, you're running the
risk of your quarterback losing their confidencefrom on field failure. I think of
David Carr, I think of JoshRosen as two great examples of quarterbacks who
on paper had the potential to bereally good quarterbacks in the NFL and never

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quite reach that potential, especially inthe case of Josh Rosen. And I
also think that people sometimes underestimate justhow much of a step up it is
in terms of conditioning. You haveto bulk up and condition your body to
take hits at the level. Soif you're not prepared and you're forced into
the starting role too early, you'rerunning the risk of injury and the loss

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of confidence. So that's a decisionthat I'm sure quick State is going to
make them the best interest of theteam, and I'm confident that Bonik is
the quarterback who is ready for thatkind of challenge. We'll think about quarterbacks
in the NFL. We always talkabout developing them, but you can kind
of tell pretty early if a guy'ssort of got it or doesn't got it,
you know, We look over thehistory of the game in the modern

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era and we can sort of tellquarterbacks tend to make a super Bowl pretty
young when they win or to lose. They tend to make a super Bowl
pretty young if they're going to beif they're going to be dominant, you
know, down the line, andthey can continue to make them as they
get older. But it's very rarethat someone comes in and is very old
when they finally make their first SuperBowl. There are occasions of that,
but it's it's really more rare thananything else, especially the playoffs. Too

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young quarterbacks they make the playoffs quick, or they tend not to, and
then they become sort of sort ofjourneyman. We look at booms and busts
among rookie quarterbacks who started early inrecent years. Who stands out to you
in either one of those categories.Well, I would say the two that
stand out to me who would bethe closest comps for Bonnicks and they're not
perfect comparisons, would be Peyton Manningand Matt Ryan. Matt Ryan was excellent

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as a rookie quarterback in Atlanta.Peyton Manning. Everyone talks about the twenty
eight receptions that he fully, butthey talk a little bit less about the
fact that he led the AFC inpassing he was top five and touchdown passes
and really found his fitting towards theend of the year. So I think
for quarterbacks who are with their strengthsare pocket presidents, quick release, information

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processing accuracy. This certainly falls inline with bow Nixes feels they can be
positioned for success over the long run. And then you also have quarterbacks who
boomed early, who were duel threatsRussell Wilson RG three and who luck with
a little bit of bolth Cam Newton, and so quarterbacks like that give defensive

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coordinators nightmares when there isn't a lotof tape to study on them, and
they usually kind of come back downto earth in the following years. What
separates the good ones from the greatones or the ones who can continue to
reinvent themselves and succeed in spite ofthat. That's really been the case for
Russell Wilson for over a decade.When you look at some of the boss
do you see busts who are pocketpathers. You see busts who are dual

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threats like Zach Wilson and Justin Fields. What they typically have in common,
outside of a skill set that mightnot exactly cater itself to the next level,
is the fact that they were surroundedby very tough situations. If you
don't surround your quarterback that support earlyon, it's going to be a nightmare
for almost everybody. So what theBroncos I think you would focus on more

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than anything, it's building the teamaround Bomex and that's for Sean Payton to
feel out whether or not it's thebest move to put him in week one,
week four, or perhaps towards theend of year one. Yeah.
I was talking with Ryan Edwards yesterdayand I said, Okay, Bonus is
either gonna come out and take thejob or it's going to be a situation
where you're running with with Jared Stidhamor Zac Wilson whomever until you're eliminating from

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the playoffs, and then you're gotto see which. In this year is
about finding out. What boat Nicksays as a first round of Ryan,
we we always appreciate the time,man and look forward to talking to you
again next week. Sounds good,Ben, Thanks for having me on.
Take care. That's Ryan Michael atthe Ryan Michael on Twitter. It's a
contributor at the Pro Football Hall ofFame, and obviously we love having him
here on the show. Nick hasgot oh my god face going on?

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Do we need to save that forthe next segment? You like you are?
You like you are in shock?I am literally in shock. It's
something that's happening in the NFL toa player that just kind of blows my
mind. Okay, well, that'sa tease if I if I ever heard
one, we can we can getinto that in the next segment. I
want to get into as well.I want to get into the UH team

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USA VERSUS Canada exhibition games. Murraycontract. I. We'll talk a little
bit about Cooper Flag too, thepresumed number one draft pick. Whenever he
comes out, are we calling remembertank for Tua? Are we calling it
capture the Flag when he comes out? That's a very interesting tagline. There
you go, Broncos Country tonight backafter this