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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hall of Famers, Steve that Water six sixty nine zeros
a tax line. I've been talking about different you know,
personality types and coaching and that kind of stuff and
soaking this up when you're at this this stage right here,
and it's a little bit different now because you've got
expanded practice squad, so it's not as like vital to
make the fifty three as it well it's still matter
prior to make the fifty three, but there's like a
twenty man practice squad. They're rotating you up all year,
(00:20):
so you still sort of make the team. If you
make the practice squad, you're probably going to be active
part of the game. Is do you think that that
changes the nature of roster competition?
Speaker 2 (00:34):
I would say not.
Speaker 3 (00:35):
I say I would say that the people who really
want to play and who's out there giving it, they're
all they're going to do that regardless, you know, you know,
it doesn't matter.
Speaker 2 (00:45):
They're trying to be a starter.
Speaker 1 (00:47):
Let me give you for instance, like Lil Jordan Humphrey
right in any normal ten years ago, when we didn't
have the practice squad the way it is now, Lil
Jordan Humphrey's making the fifty three right, just by virtue
of what he does.
Speaker 2 (00:58):
But on this roster, is he making the fifty three?
Speaker 1 (01:01):
Probably not, because you've got the big four at Cortland,
Tim Patrick, h Marvin Mamams and Josh Reynolds. Right then
you got the two guys you drafted that you're probably
not giving up and in davaval At and Troy Franklin,
and Troy's been getting coach pretty hard out there, pretty
pretty vocal by John Morton.
Speaker 2 (01:16):
So are you keep that's six right there? Are you
keeping seven wide receivers?
Speaker 1 (01:19):
Or you putting a guy like little Jordan on the
practice squad where you could keep calling him up over
and over and then figure it out as it goes along.
And so that's the reason I asked that, does it
change the mentality the competitive fire when you know you've
got a fallback plan like the practice squad?
Speaker 3 (01:34):
Just talk about the mentality of woods they player, coaching player.
Speaker 2 (01:37):
I'm talking about players because I mean you've got twenty.
Speaker 1 (01:39):
Extra spots where you're technically making the team now instead
of you know, fifty three.
Speaker 3 (01:44):
I think the dogs, the guys who really wanted to
get there, they're gonna they're gonna play their best regardless,
And I would hope that all the players are like that,
that they're not just playing to make.
Speaker 2 (01:55):
The practice squad. All right, I'm probably.
Speaker 1 (01:58):
Ask the rong guys because you two guys both had
the same mentality, like they're saying like I'm gonna make
it mentality, you know kind of.
Speaker 2 (02:02):
I mean, I don't know anybody.
Speaker 3 (02:04):
Well, maybe there were some guys who we all know.
Guys want to go by everyone. We just want to
be on the team. But man, hey, Mike Shannon, they
like those players, right hey.
Speaker 2 (02:15):
And I don't think Sean Pagne like those type of
players either.
Speaker 3 (02:17):
Probably those guys who want to compete, who are gonna
come out and they show up every single day.
Speaker 2 (02:22):
They're gonna give it there off.
Speaker 3 (02:24):
And if you if you're not, hey, if you keep
those kind of guys around, it's what your whole your
whole team is gonna have that attitude. So you know,
other guys gonna have they have that attitude.
Speaker 4 (02:34):
You know.
Speaker 2 (02:35):
I think it's that eighty twenty.
Speaker 5 (02:36):
Rule, because you're gonna get eighty percent.
Speaker 2 (02:39):
Of the guys trying to make the team.
Speaker 5 (02:41):
But to your point, you're gonna get guys who look
around the room and they said, Well, last season, the
Broncos kept eight receivers a couple of guys on the
practice squad, So maybe I can be that rotational guy,
still collecting the track, riding your ideas, still adding to
the pitsion.
Speaker 2 (02:59):
But I really don't have to really be in.
Speaker 5 (03:01):
It goes back to the conversation you and I had
last week when I say, Okay, would you rather be
on the championship team and compete and lose, or be
on a championship team win a ring and you didn't
really contribute it anyway?
Speaker 2 (03:15):
Yeah, would you either get.
Speaker 1 (03:16):
The star of a non championship team or win the
ring and not not have done anything.
Speaker 2 (03:19):
That's a good question. I said, I rather have a ring.
Was people who are saying, just give me a ring.
But see, see I went over the weekend.
Speaker 1 (03:26):
I thought about that because I'm like, well, wait a minute,
I'd rather have the ring because I'd rather have the ring, But.
Speaker 2 (03:31):
Me as a person wants to be I don't want
to be on the sideline. Put me in coach.
Speaker 3 (03:35):
Maybe if you started for several years and you know
one year you had off year.
Speaker 2 (03:38):
And you didn't start, Yeah, I take it that time.
Speaker 1 (03:40):
But I don't tell me about you don't contribute, and
your Melvin Gordon on the Chiefs, guess.
Speaker 2 (03:47):
What you got ring. He's not going to turn it down.
Was on the Chiefs too.
Speaker 1 (03:55):
But it's one of those kind of situations where I'm like, well,
you know, I want a ring.
Speaker 2 (03:59):
I want that hard, don't get me wrong.
Speaker 1 (04:01):
And if my team's good enough to get there and
they're carrying me, okay. But at the same time, like
I got to think about this weekend, I'm like, you
know what, I need to change my answer. Yes, I mean,
like as much as I joke about sustained mediocrity, even
for the.
Speaker 2 (04:12):
Bushes, you haven't. You can say it right now. I
have said it. I was, I was, I was.
Speaker 1 (04:19):
It won't come out I was mistaken.
Speaker 2 (04:23):
I'm just saying I'm not wired that way. Like I
got to thinking about it this.
Speaker 1 (04:26):
Weekend, I'm like, man, I am Actually, I'm like, I
was full of crap the other night because you know what,
I wouldn't want the ring.
Speaker 2 (04:30):
I mean I want the ring or put me on
the field. I want to play. I'm gonna get it.
I'm gonna go get it myself. Okay. I'm not saying like.
Speaker 1 (04:37):
As much as I joke about you guys know how
I am like a joke about stuff, but in reality,
like dude, I am hyper competitive.
Speaker 2 (04:42):
I winned it. I'm winning everything.
Speaker 1 (04:43):
I'm winning it to walk into the walking through the
gates to practice, I'm winning that.
Speaker 2 (04:47):
Like I'm hyper competitive.
Speaker 5 (04:48):
It's just like if you're flipping coins trying to get
close to the wall, you.
Speaker 2 (04:52):
Want to win. You're playing paper football, you would have win.
I played Monopoly to win.
Speaker 3 (04:56):
Yes, oh yeah, I asked my cousin. Look, I'm when
I go back to Saint Louis, we got to the
little spot that's called a little social place where they
have game back basketball, always shoot basketball.
Speaker 1 (05:05):
Yes, the punch power bag. I'm winning the punch power bag.
Speaker 2 (05:12):
Okay, what just saying like I'm don't do stuff to
not win.
Speaker 5 (05:15):
You know, Ben wants to win so much, but he's
learning to lower the bar to win.
Speaker 2 (05:21):
But I think that the.
Speaker 3 (05:22):
Players they want to win, even they go out there
and give it.
Speaker 2 (05:26):
They're all they want to win. But moosth teams can't win.
Everybody can't wait. I understand that.
Speaker 5 (05:31):
But once against things, it's one thing to go out
there and give it your all and lose. It's another
thing just not to give anything and just kind of
be a guy on the squad.
Speaker 2 (05:41):
You just a jag. Yeah yeah, yeah, Well I'll tell
you what I ain't saying. Not my rookie year.
Speaker 3 (05:47):
We go to the Super Bowl and we play San
Francisco forty nine ers and we get be fifty five
to ten, And that was like one of the worst
days of my life. After the game, you know, people
wanting to go man, I don't want to go out.
I don't want to go anywhere. I just want to
go to my room and I want to see what
the heck happened here and what can we do next
year to be better?
Speaker 2 (06:08):
But I'm I'm the same way, man.
Speaker 1 (06:10):
Is the thay we When I was in the Army,
we used to have like we had flag football to
our flag football.
Speaker 2 (06:14):
It was good, right, but they're just faces though good.
I would have rather want to ring though, well yeah I.
Speaker 3 (06:22):
Would yes, yes, yeah.
Speaker 2 (06:28):
That's what if somebody was calling me and we could
have want to ring a How difficult was that halftime?
Oh man, it was. It was terrible.
Speaker 3 (06:34):
And half time I was like, bro, we we cooked.
Speaker 2 (06:38):
They got out number bro.
Speaker 1 (06:41):
At least we were honest, you can't see Steve's face
right now.
Speaker 2 (06:49):
Man, I'll just imagine the joke. Steve Outwater is just
sitting like we done. They got our number. Hey, we're
gonna fight now. I'm gonna play, but man, they got
our numbers.
Speaker 5 (07:00):
We got a quarter in this thing, right, he's going
down cry.
Speaker 2 (07:09):
Hey man, bro I'm gonna believe. Gentlemen, we can kind
of believe. I believe what the school was that all time?
But it was unbelievable. He hadn't be like that all season.
Speaker 3 (07:21):
Right, we just shot and we just we're just looking
at each other, like, well, how's this happening?
Speaker 2 (07:26):
What's going on? Everybody got a plan? Take you punch
in the mouth? Boy, we got placed in the mouth
and the jaws.
Speaker 4 (07:34):
I just.
Speaker 2 (07:36):
I was just picturing Russ and Russ going, we just
gotta believe job, And if you go to the.
Speaker 1 (07:40):
Clap and stuff, I'm like, man, that's what not to
get all Not to get off on a tangent because
I like Russ, but he's a gork and and that
kind of stuff like that.
Speaker 2 (07:48):
That's what I think everybody was talking about.
Speaker 1 (07:50):
When want to see emotion from him and I don't
talk about about he's going now, all the kind of stuff.
Speaker 2 (07:53):
But I think that's what everybody was talking about. When
they're saying it felt inauthentic because that's the kind of
stuff he was doing.
Speaker 1 (07:58):
You'd beat down fifty five to ten and sitting there club,
we just gotta believe job no, no, but believe they
carrying us through this.
Speaker 3 (08:04):
But would you rather have your quarterback say that or
always say, hey, guys, we're cooked, let's go out there
and just lay down.
Speaker 2 (08:11):
Oh see, I don't say that, like if it's me
and I'm giving the speech at my minute that they
got us. Let's let's give him something to remember on
the way out the door. Let's just spoil the night
for him. Right now, they're not going they're not going
out partying to.
Speaker 5 (08:20):
Night without remembering they played the demmo box and see
what you wanted them to say?
Speaker 2 (08:23):
Yeah, Ben, you know what, maybe if you.
Speaker 5 (08:25):
Would have caught that last third down, we would have
done in that situation.
Speaker 2 (08:29):
Right, Yes, Steve, I'm sorry, I got a hand right exactly.
So once again, what type of leader do you want
to be? Like? You call?
Speaker 5 (08:40):
Yes, you caught between a rock and a hard place,
because if you overly criticize your teammates, you're wrong. If
you are like where Russ was and people thought he
was not authentic.
Speaker 2 (08:50):
Then you will. I'm not.
Speaker 1 (08:51):
I don't have to criticize my teammates at that point
across right, I don't have to do like I don't
have to be like Ferguson.
Speaker 2 (08:56):
You have to drop them, you know, I don't have
to do that.
Speaker 1 (08:57):
I'm just saying, like, look, guys, we're losing, but I'm
let's let's see if we can't call Away back in
this thing.
Speaker 2 (09:02):
We're going to make them. Remember they played us at
minimum and after the game, this is what I learned
to want to go to the club.
Speaker 3 (09:09):
I got this fro Ronnie Lot he said, you playing
for exactly. You know, so after the game, you know,
after the game, when you go by and you shake people,
you know, guys who gave up, you're like, man yet
face exactly versus a guy who gave it.
Speaker 2 (09:26):
We got. I'm walking up, you have all.
Speaker 1 (09:30):
I'm expected looking at him in the eye, expecting to
hear back, Hey, I got to hit the tell before
I hit the club later, you know, like they That's
what That's what I'm talking about.
Speaker 2 (09:38):
That kind of thing.
Speaker 5 (09:38):
And you know what, that's why I love playing against
Philip Rivers and Tom Brady. You know, even even though
Philip Rivers his way of swearing was more hilarious than
damage yourself laughing more than anything. Yeah, but like with Tom,
Tom will come up to you and he'd be like, hey, man,
that's a great game. So it's kind of a real,
recognized real. But when you're saying, if you playing against
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an opponent and you're getting a beat down, certain players
that'll come up to even in that loss and be like, dude,
you were exactly those guys. You like, whatever, man move
on when he could go to the next person trying
to remember who it was it was.
Speaker 1 (10:12):
It was a game a couple of years ago where
the Raiders end up running the same play like seventeen
or twenty two plays a run play. The Raiders were
beating and there was one player on the Broncos defense.
Speaker 2 (10:21):
It was still sitting there.
Speaker 1 (10:22):
Most of the guys had kind of packed it in
and it was one guy out there and it was
it was interesting to watch at the end of the
game where the defense from the rate they would over
made a point to go to him like, hey, we
were going to say you're still out there, you're still exactly.
Speaker 2 (10:33):
They respect that.
Speaker 5 (10:34):
Yeah, this is why I know we in Broncos country,
but really recognized real. So I'm gonna speak it through
the power. This is why I like Max Rosby because
he's one of those guys.
Speaker 2 (10:44):
He doesn't care.
Speaker 5 (10:48):
Yes, he's given everything, he is going to exhaust himself
and it's just like, well, that's how I want to
see players play, even if you play for an opponent. Dude,
I got mad props for you able.
Speaker 2 (11:00):
To do that.
Speaker 1 (11:00):
Yeah, we don't have props to tell the whistle blow
final whistle of course, then we got for you.
Speaker 2 (11:04):
No, that's it, and it's fun.
Speaker 1 (11:05):
I mean cross against right, right, that's and it costs
me a hell of a player on top, so that's fun
to watch. But but on top of that, yeah, we
will recognize real kind of thing like when you see
that and they see that level of respect and and
to tie that back to trading camp here, it feels
like there have been years and it's not been the
last two years, but there have been years here where
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you have seen guys and you know they're coasting and
you sort.
Speaker 2 (11:30):
Of see it accepted. You don't really see that now.
You know, I haven't seen that the last two years.
And you know three years ago, three years ago, I
could have gone out in the field run a oute.
Nobody would have cared. Now you have a real you know,
like then you won't come out Sure what Now you
got you have an organized accountability man?
Speaker 5 (11:45):
Right?
Speaker 1 (11:46):
And then I think that's the biggest thing is Sean
brought here is there is a professional standard down.
Speaker 2 (11:50):
Not that not that Vic didn't do it.
Speaker 1 (11:52):
Uh And I'm gonna skip over the guy after him,
but it was you know there there's the return from
the clown show in a sense has been jarring to me.
Speaker 5 (12:01):
This is why both George Payton and Sean Payton tried
to do or trying to do a great job of
bringing in guys who they feel that they want to
build the culture around who they are culture building type
of pieces.
Speaker 2 (12:15):
And when you look at this team, this team is.
Speaker 5 (12:17):
Really young, and you look at Vegas odds they don't
have the team winning more than four games. But for me,
I'm just like, you, Steve, the way that the guys
should approach it is because yes, take that on as
a challenge. No one's giving you an opportunity and you
can there's a possibility there is a couple of wins,
maybe three to four, that you can catch a couple
of people slipping.
Speaker 3 (12:38):
Yeah, you're going to catch a couple people because they're
they're underestimating absolutely and don't need to don't run in
your mouth talking about all. We're going to turn them
up and keep crying, keep cryeting and kick their.
Speaker 2 (12:50):
Butts only six six. There is a text line. Yes, man,
my little league teams.
Speaker 3 (12:55):
Bro, those teams just be talking so much that boy,
we went out and put it on them.
Speaker 2 (13:03):
Yeah, I'm I'm the worst about that too. I love it.
I love it talk. I love to talking video game.
Oh I'm chirping. I even talk to Steve about that. Yeah,
playing because I've be the new college football game. Yeah.
Well I've been playing his army with the triple option
and making people running on the flex bone. You happen
to wear the two backs again, Yeah, the flex bone
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and then you hand it to the back. Yes, that again.
Are you talking about that pistol? Play on the veer
off pistol? Yeah, the veer dude, I'm playing againt.
Speaker 1 (13:34):
I'm an army playing against Alabama and I'm winning, like
you know, I'm winning twenty and these guys are so
mad at they had because these kids ain't never seen
the flex bone.
Speaker 2 (13:40):
They're too young, they never they never saw it. So
these kids don't know how to stop.
Speaker 1 (13:44):
And they were yelling at me through the head stamps,
calling calling me every like I can't even say half
of the stuff on the air. They're calling me every
name under the sun. And I'm I'm chewing. I'm waiting
till the one second of the play clock to snap
it like I am. They are so guy, man, I'm
playing with This is like Ohio State, LSU, Alabama and
I'm oh and I'm wing.
Speaker 2 (14:02):
They're so mad. Yeah, brings to you out of my
life five six, six, nine zeros of text. And by
the way, Will says.
Speaker 1 (14:07):
Juicy fruit gum was the first product to ever have
a barcode. Interesting bit of trivia there, if you ever wondered, Uh,
just because you're not playing doesn't mean you're not contributing.
You're making the starters better just by practicing.
Speaker 2 (14:19):
Sometimes you good player.
Speaker 1 (14:20):
Sometimes sometimes sometimes Wait, there's some guys who are on
a roster just because they have the adequate size to
be on a roster.
Speaker 2 (14:29):
That's it. I've seen it. Okay, five six sixth nine
zers of text.
Speaker 1 (14:34):
Im sorry, guys, there's a bunch of people here, and
I wish I could have gotten all of you some
of you.
Speaker 2 (14:37):
The text lineost being weird. Uh, Stacy from Utah says,
if there's.
Speaker 1 (14:40):
Anybody you want cut or want to trade, just let
me know. I will buy their jersey and believe me,
it will happen. That's been the motif. Go Broncos.
Speaker 2 (14:47):
I guess every time Stacey buy the Broncos jersey that
player gets cut or traded.
Speaker 4 (14:50):
Really, he's like telling us right now, you know the
lot of a lot of numbers. Okay, I'm sorry, but
if he's got the lot of yeah, Stacy, if youve
got some numbers, we don't need absolutely or actually if
we play them then you know, yeah, he plays to lose.
Speaker 1 (15:07):
Maybe should give him the stations. Well he gives us
that we go the opposite. Ye, that's the way that works.
So anyway, uh, five six six nine zero. Any anything else?
Speaker 2 (15:14):
You guys noticed real quick for we gotta hit to
break anything else? You guys notice ot there tranking?
Speaker 5 (15:18):
Well. The one thing about the run game based on
what we've seen in practice. You can tell the Broncos
this year want to be committed to running the ball. Now,
who's going to get the bulk of those carries? We
don't know. But as far as my eyes can see,
the guy that some in the media criticized last year
and say he lost the step, Davonte Williams, I mean do.
Speaker 2 (15:40):
Yeah, the report his obituary was pretty mature.
Speaker 3 (15:43):
Yes, And I don't understand because I don't. I don't
understand how that people don't understand. I don't understand how
people don't understand. That makes sense, Yeah.
Speaker 6 (15:52):
Makes sense that players after you have a severe invere
injury to and thee Israel that the first year back
you're not going to be really one hundred percent.
Speaker 2 (16:03):
Now was he was he healthier year? Yes? But was
he back to Javonte?
Speaker 5 (16:08):
No?
Speaker 3 (16:08):
He will normally takes a couple of years, and it
took the second year afterwards normally is that year And man,
he looks great out there and he goes.
Speaker 2 (16:16):
He looks phenomenal.
Speaker 1 (16:17):
So it'll be good to see guys Kwait trading camp
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Hall of Famers, Steve that Water six sixty nine zeros
a tax line. I've been talking about different you know,
personality types and coaching and that kind of stuff and
soaking this up when you're at this this stage right here,
and it's a little bit different now because you've got
expanded practice squad, so it's not as like vital to
make the fifty three as it well it's still matter
prior to make the fifty three, but there's like a
twenty man practice squad. They're rotating you up all year,
(00:20):
so you still sort of make the team. If you
make the practice squad, you're probably going to be active
part of the game. Is do you think that that
changes the nature of roster competition?
Speaker 2 (00:34):
I would say not.
Speaker 3 (00:35):
I say I would say that the people who really
want to play and who's out there giving it, they're
all they're going to do that regardless, you know, you know,
it doesn't matter.
Speaker 2 (00:45):
They're trying to be a starter.
Speaker 1 (00:47):
Let me give you for instance, like Lil Jordan Humphrey
right in any normal ten years ago, when we didn't
have the practice squad the way it is now, Lil
Jordan Humphrey's making the fifty three right, just by virtue
of what he does.
Speaker 2 (00:58):
But on this roster, is he making the fifty three?
Speaker 1 (01:01):
Probably not, because you've got the big four at Cortland,
Tim Patrick, h Marvin Mamams and Josh Reynolds. Right then
you got the two guys you drafted that you're probably
not giving up and in davaval At and Troy Franklin,
and Troy's been getting coach pretty hard out there, pretty
pretty vocal by John Morton.
Speaker 2 (01:16):
So are you keep that's six right there? Are you
keeping seven wide receivers?
Speaker 1 (01:19):
Or you putting a guy like little Jordan on the
practice squad where you could keep calling him up over
and over and then figure it out as it goes along.
And so that's the reason I asked that, does it
change the mentality the competitive fire when you know you've
got a fallback plan like the practice squad?
Speaker 3 (01:34):
Just talk about the mentality of woods they player, coaching player.
Speaker 2 (01:37):
I'm talking about players because I mean you've got twenty.
Speaker 1 (01:39):
Extra spots where you're technically making the team now instead
of you know, fifty three.
Speaker 3 (01:44):
I think the dogs, the guys who really wanted to
get there, they're gonna they're gonna play their best regardless,
And I would hope that all the players are like that,
that they're not just playing to make.
Speaker 2 (01:55):
The practice squad. All right, I'm probably.
Speaker 1 (01:58):
Ask the rong guys because you two guys both had
the same mentality, like they're saying like I'm gonna make
it mentality, you know kind of.
Speaker 2 (02:02):
I mean, I don't know anybody.
Speaker 3 (02:04):
Well, maybe there were some guys who we all know.
Guys want to go by everyone. We just want to
be on the team. But man, hey, Mike Shannon, they
like those players, right hey.
Speaker 2 (02:15):
And I don't think Sean Pagne like those type of
players either.
Speaker 3 (02:17):
Probably those guys who want to compete, who are gonna
come out and they show up every single day.
Speaker 2 (02:22):
They're gonna give it there off.
Speaker 3 (02:24):
And if you if you're not, hey, if you keep
those kind of guys around, it's what your whole your
whole team is gonna have that attitude. So you know,
other guys gonna have they have that attitude.
Speaker 4 (02:34):
You know.
Speaker 2 (02:35):
I think it's that eighty twenty.
Speaker 5 (02:36):
Rule, because you're gonna get eighty percent.
Speaker 2 (02:39):
Of the guys trying to make the team.
Speaker 5 (02:41):
But to your point, you're gonna get guys who look
around the room and they said, Well, last season, the
Broncos kept eight receivers a couple of guys on the
practice squad, So maybe I can be that rotational guy,
still collecting the track, riding your ideas, still adding to
the pitsion.
Speaker 2 (02:59):
But I really don't have to really be in.
Speaker 5 (03:01):
It goes back to the conversation you and I had
last week when I say, Okay, would you rather be
on the championship team and compete and lose, or be
on a championship team win a ring and you didn't
really contribute it anyway?
Speaker 2 (03:15):
Yeah, would you either get.
Speaker 1 (03:16):
The star of a non championship team or win the
ring and not not have done anything.
Speaker 2 (03:19):
That's a good question. I said, I rather have a ring.
Was people who are saying, just give me a ring.
But see, see I went over the weekend.
Speaker 1 (03:26):
I thought about that because I'm like, well, wait a minute,
I'd rather have the ring because I'd rather have the ring, But.
Speaker 2 (03:31):
Me as a person wants to be I don't want
to be on the sideline. Put me in coach.
Speaker 3 (03:35):
Maybe if you started for several years and you know
one year you had off year.
Speaker 2 (03:38):
And you didn't start, Yeah, I take it that time.
Speaker 1 (03:40):
But I don't tell me about you don't contribute, and
your Melvin Gordon on the Chiefs, guess.
Speaker 2 (03:47):
What you got ring. He's not going to turn it down.
Was on the Chiefs too.
Speaker 1 (03:55):
But it's one of those kind of situations where I'm like, well,
you know, I want a ring.
Speaker 2 (03:59):
I want that hard, don't get me wrong.
Speaker 1 (04:01):
And if my team's good enough to get there and
they're carrying me, okay. But at the same time, like
I got to think about this weekend, I'm like, you
know what, I need to change my answer. Yes, I mean,
like as much as I joke about sustained mediocrity, even
for the.
Speaker 2 (04:12):
Bushes, you haven't. You can say it right now. I
have said it. I was, I was, I was.
Speaker 1 (04:19):
It won't come out I was mistaken.
Speaker 2 (04:23):
I'm just saying I'm not wired that way. Like I
got to thinking about it this.
Speaker 1 (04:26):
Weekend, I'm like, man, I am Actually, I'm like, I
was full of crap the other night because you know what,
I wouldn't want the ring.
Speaker 2 (04:30):
I mean I want the ring or put me on
the field. I want to play. I'm gonna get it.
I'm gonna go get it myself. Okay. I'm not saying like.
Speaker 1 (04:37):
As much as I joke about you guys know how
I am like a joke about stuff, but in reality,
like dude, I am hyper competitive.
Speaker 2 (04:42):
I winned it. I'm winning everything.
Speaker 1 (04:43):
I'm winning it to walk into the walking through the
gates to practice, I'm winning that.
Speaker 2 (04:47):
Like I'm hyper competitive.
Speaker 5 (04:48):
It's just like if you're flipping coins trying to get
close to the wall, you.
Speaker 2 (04:52):
Want to win. You're playing paper football, you would have win.
I played Monopoly to win.
Speaker 3 (04:56):
Yes, oh yeah, I asked my cousin. Look, I'm when
I go back to Saint Louis, we got to the
little spot that's called a little social place where they
have game back basketball, always shoot basketball.
Speaker 1 (05:05):
Yes, the punch power bag. I'm winning the punch power bag.
Speaker 2 (05:12):
Okay, what just saying like I'm don't do stuff to
not win.
Speaker 5 (05:15):
You know, Ben wants to win so much, but he's
learning to lower the bar to win.
Speaker 2 (05:21):
But I think that the.
Speaker 3 (05:22):
Players they want to win, even they go out there
and give it.
Speaker 2 (05:26):
They're all they want to win. But moosth teams can't win.
Everybody can't wait. I understand that.
Speaker 5 (05:31):
But once against things, it's one thing to go out
there and give it your all and lose. It's another
thing just not to give anything and just kind of
be a guy on the squad.
Speaker 2 (05:41):
You just a jag. Yeah yeah, yeah, Well I'll tell
you what I ain't saying. Not my rookie year.
Speaker 3 (05:47):
We go to the Super Bowl and we play San
Francisco forty nine ers and we get be fifty five
to ten, And that was like one of the worst
days of my life. After the game, you know, people
wanting to go man, I don't want to go out.
I don't want to go anywhere. I just want to
go to my room and I want to see what
the heck happened here and what can we do next
year to be better?
Speaker 2 (06:08):
But I'm I'm the same way, man.
Speaker 1 (06:10):
Is the thay we When I was in the Army,
we used to have like we had flag football to
our flag football.
Speaker 2 (06:14):
It was good, right, but they're just faces though good.
I would have rather want to ring though, well yeah I.
Speaker 3 (06:22):
Would yes, yes, yeah.
Speaker 2 (06:28):
That's what if somebody was calling me and we could
have want to ring a How difficult was that halftime?
Oh man, it was. It was terrible.
Speaker 3 (06:34):
And half time I was like, bro, we we cooked.
Speaker 2 (06:38):
They got out number bro.
Speaker 1 (06:41):
At least we were honest, you can't see Steve's face
right now.
Speaker 2 (06:49):
Man, I'll just imagine the joke. Steve Outwater is just
sitting like we done. They got our number. Hey, we're
gonna fight now. I'm gonna play, but man, they got
our numbers.
Speaker 5 (07:00):
We got a quarter in this thing, right, he's going
down cry.
Speaker 2 (07:09):
Hey man, bro I'm gonna believe. Gentlemen, we can kind
of believe. I believe what the school was that all time?
But it was unbelievable. He hadn't be like that all season.
Speaker 3 (07:21):
Right, we just shot and we just we're just looking
at each other, like, well, how's this happening?
Speaker 2 (07:26):
What's going on? Everybody got a plan? Take you punch
in the mouth? Boy, we got placed in the mouth
and the jaws.
Speaker 4 (07:34):
I just.
Speaker 2 (07:36):
I was just picturing Russ and Russ going, we just
gotta believe job, And if you go to the.
Speaker 1 (07:40):
Clap and stuff, I'm like, man, that's what not to
get all Not to get off on a tangent because
I like Russ, but he's a gork and and that
kind of stuff like that.
Speaker 2 (07:48):
That's what I think everybody was talking about.
Speaker 1 (07:50):
When want to see emotion from him and I don't
talk about about he's going now, all the kind of stuff.
Speaker 2 (07:53):
But I think that's what everybody was talking about. When
they're saying it felt inauthentic because that's the kind of
stuff he was doing.
Speaker 1 (07:58):
You'd beat down fifty five to ten and sitting there club,
we just gotta believe job no, no, but believe they
carrying us through this.
Speaker 3 (08:04):
But would you rather have your quarterback say that or
always say, hey, guys, we're cooked, let's go out there
and just lay down.
Speaker 2 (08:11):
Oh see, I don't say that, like if it's me
and I'm giving the speech at my minute that they
got us. Let's let's give him something to remember on
the way out the door. Let's just spoil the night
for him. Right now, they're not going they're not going
out partying to.
Speaker 5 (08:20):
Night without remembering they played the demmo box and see
what you wanted them to say?
Speaker 2 (08:23):
Yeah, Ben, you know what, maybe if you.
Speaker 5 (08:25):
Would have caught that last third down, we would have
done in that situation.
Speaker 2 (08:29):
Right, Yes, Steve, I'm sorry, I got a hand right exactly.
So once again, what type of leader do you want
to be? Like? You call?
Speaker 5 (08:40):
Yes, you caught between a rock and a hard place,
because if you overly criticize your teammates, you're wrong. If
you are like where Russ was and people thought he
was not authentic.
Speaker 2 (08:50):
Then you will. I'm not.
Speaker 1 (08:51):
I don't have to criticize my teammates at that point
across right, I don't have to do like I don't
have to be like Ferguson.
Speaker 2 (08:56):
You have to drop them, you know, I don't have
to do that.
Speaker 1 (08:57):
I'm just saying, like, look, guys, we're losing, but I'm
let's let's see if we can't call Away back in
this thing.
Speaker 2 (09:02):
We're going to make them. Remember they played us at
minimum and after the game, this is what I learned
to want to go to the club.
Speaker 3 (09:09):
I got this fro Ronnie Lot he said, you playing
for exactly. You know, so after the game, you know,
after the game, when you go by and you shake people,
you know, guys who gave up, you're like, man yet
face exactly versus a guy who gave it.
Speaker 2 (09:26):
We got. I'm walking up, you have all.
Speaker 1 (09:30):
I'm expected looking at him in the eye, expecting to
hear back, Hey, I got to hit the tell before
I hit the club later, you know, like they That's
what That's what I'm talking about.
Speaker 2 (09:38):
That kind of thing.
Speaker 5 (09:38):
And you know what, that's why I love playing against
Philip Rivers and Tom Brady. You know, even even though
Philip Rivers his way of swearing was more hilarious than
damage yourself laughing more than anything. Yeah, but like with Tom,
Tom will come up to you and he'd be like, hey, man,
that's a great game. So it's kind of a real,
recognized real. But when you're saying, if you playing against
(10:00):
an opponent and you're getting a beat down, certain players
that'll come up to even in that loss and be like, dude,
you were exactly those guys. You like, whatever, man move
on when he could go to the next person trying
to remember who it was it was.
Speaker 1 (10:12):
It was a game a couple of years ago where
the Raiders end up running the same play like seventeen
or twenty two plays a run play. The Raiders were
beating and there was one player on the Broncos defense.
Speaker 2 (10:21):
It was still sitting there.
Speaker 1 (10:22):
Most of the guys had kind of packed it in
and it was one guy out there and it was
it was interesting to watch at the end of the
game where the defense from the rate they would over
made a point to go to him like, hey, we
were going to say you're still out there, you're still exactly.
Speaker 2 (10:33):
They respect that.
Speaker 5 (10:34):
Yeah, this is why I know we in Broncos country,
but really recognized real. So I'm gonna speak it through
the power. This is why I like Max Rosby because
he's one of those guys.
Speaker 2 (10:44):
He doesn't care.
Speaker 5 (10:48):
Yes, he's given everything, he is going to exhaust himself
and it's just like, well, that's how I want to
see players play, even if you play for an opponent. Dude,
I got mad props for you able.
Speaker 2 (11:00):
To do that.
Speaker 1 (11:00):
Yeah, we don't have props to tell the whistle blow
final whistle of course, then we got for you.
Speaker 2 (11:04):
No, that's it, and it's fun.
Speaker 1 (11:05):
I mean cross against right, right, that's and it costs
me a hell of a player on top, so that's fun
to watch. But but on top of that, yeah, we
will recognize real kind of thing like when you see
that and they see that level of respect and and
to tie that back to trading camp here, it feels
like there have been years and it's not been the
last two years, but there have been years here where
(11:27):
you have seen guys and you know they're coasting and
you sort.
Speaker 2 (11:30):
Of see it accepted. You don't really see that now.
You know, I haven't seen that the last two years.
And you know three years ago, three years ago, I
could have gone out in the field run a oute.
Nobody would have cared. Now you have a real you know,
like then you won't come out Sure what Now you
got you have an organized accountability man?
Speaker 5 (11:45):
Right?
Speaker 1 (11:46):
And then I think that's the biggest thing is Sean
brought here is there is a professional standard down.
Speaker 2 (11:50):
Not that not that Vic didn't do it.
Speaker 1 (11:52):
Uh And I'm gonna skip over the guy after him,
but it was you know there there's the return from
the clown show in a sense has been jarring to me.
Speaker 5 (12:01):
This is why both George Payton and Sean Payton tried
to do or trying to do a great job of
bringing in guys who they feel that they want to
build the culture around who they are culture building type
of pieces.
Speaker 2 (12:15):
And when you look at this team, this team is.
Speaker 5 (12:17):
Really young, and you look at Vegas odds they don't
have the team winning more than four games. But for me,
I'm just like, you, Steve, the way that the guys
should approach it is because yes, take that on as
a challenge. No one's giving you an opportunity and you
can there's a possibility there is a couple of wins,
maybe three to four, that you can catch a couple
of people slipping.
Speaker 3 (12:38):
Yeah, you're going to catch a couple people because they're
they're underestimating absolutely and don't need to don't run in
your mouth talking about all. We're going to turn them
up and keep crying, keep cryeting and kick their.
Speaker 2 (12:50):
Butts only six six. There is a text line. Yes, man,
my little league teams.
Speaker 3 (12:55):
Bro, those teams just be talking so much that boy,
we went out and put it on them.
Speaker 2 (13:03):
Yeah, I'm I'm the worst about that too. I love it.
I love it talk. I love to talking video game.
Oh I'm chirping. I even talk to Steve about that. Yeah,
playing because I've be the new college football game. Yeah.
Well I've been playing his army with the triple option
and making people running on the flex bone. You happen
to wear the two backs again, Yeah, the flex bone
(13:24):
and then you hand it to the back. Yes, that again.
Are you talking about that pistol? Play on the veer
off pistol? Yeah, the veer dude, I'm playing againt.
Speaker 1 (13:34):
I'm an army playing against Alabama and I'm winning, like
you know, I'm winning twenty and these guys are so
mad at they had because these kids ain't never seen
the flex bone.
Speaker 2 (13:40):
They're too young, they never they never saw it. So
these kids don't know how to stop.
Speaker 1 (13:44):
And they were yelling at me through the head stamps,
calling calling me every like I can't even say half
of the stuff on the air. They're calling me every
name under the sun. And I'm I'm chewing. I'm waiting
till the one second of the play clock to snap
it like I am. They are so guy, man, I'm
playing with This is like Ohio State, LSU, Alabama and
I'm oh and I'm wing.
Speaker 2 (14:02):
They're so mad. Yeah, brings to you out of my
life five six, six, nine zeros of text. And by
the way, Will says.
Speaker 1 (14:07):
Juicy fruit gum was the first product to ever have
a barcode. Interesting bit of trivia there, if you ever wondered, Uh,
just because you're not playing doesn't mean you're not contributing.
You're making the starters better just by practicing.
Speaker 2 (14:19):
Sometimes you good player.
Speaker 1 (14:20):
Sometimes sometimes sometimes Wait, there's some guys who are on
a roster just because they have the adequate size to
be on a roster.
Speaker 2 (14:29):
That's it. I've seen it. Okay, five six sixth nine
zers of text.
Speaker 1 (14:34):
Im sorry, guys, there's a bunch of people here, and
I wish I could have gotten all of you some
of you.
Speaker 2 (14:37):
The text lineost being weird. Uh, Stacy from Utah says,
if there's.
Speaker 1 (14:40):
Anybody you want cut or want to trade, just let
me know. I will buy their jersey and believe me,
it will happen. That's been the motif. Go Broncos.
Speaker 2 (14:47):
I guess every time Stacey buy the Broncos jersey that
player gets cut or traded.
Speaker 4 (14:50):
Really, he's like telling us right now, you know the
lot of a lot of numbers. Okay, I'm sorry, but
if he's got the lot of yeah, Stacy, if youve
got some numbers, we don't need absolutely or actually if
we play them then you know, yeah, he plays to lose.
Speaker 1 (15:07):
Maybe should give him the stations. Well he gives us
that we go the opposite. Ye, that's the way that works.
So anyway, uh, five six six nine zero. Any anything else?
Speaker 2 (15:14):
You guys noticed real quick for we gotta hit to
break anything else? You guys notice ot there tranking?
Speaker 5 (15:18):
Well. The one thing about the run game based on
what we've seen in practice. You can tell the Broncos
this year want to be committed to running the ball. Now,
who's going to get the bulk of those carries? We
don't know. But as far as my eyes can see,
the guy that some in the media criticized last year
and say he lost the step, Davonte Williams, I mean do.
Speaker 2 (15:40):
Yeah, the report his obituary was pretty mature.
Speaker 3 (15:43):
Yes, And I don't understand because I don't. I don't
understand how that people don't understand. I don't understand how
people don't understand. That makes sense, Yeah.
Speaker 6 (15:52):
Makes sense that players after you have a severe invere
injury to and thee Israel that the first year back
you're not going to be really one hundred percent.
Speaker 2 (16:03):
Now was he was he healthier year? Yes? But was
he back to Javonte?
Speaker 5 (16:08):
No?
Speaker 3 (16:08):
He will normally takes a couple of years, and it
took the second year afterwards normally is that year And man,
he looks great out there and he goes.
Speaker 2 (16:16):
He looks phenomenal.
Speaker 1 (16:17):
So it'll be good to see guys Kwait trading camp
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