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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome to it, Broncos Country tonight. But with all Brian
Dick Ferguson, Grant Smith, it's a hall of Famer, Steve
that or do we call you?
Speaker 2 (00:05):
Do we call you coach? Ferg Do we call you?
Do we call your Scotty? We just call you intern.
Speaker 1 (00:09):
I don't really know what the title game is here.
I want to make sure we get this right.
Speaker 3 (00:13):
No, you call me Nick Ferguson, Nick Ferguson. That's what
my mom aka doctor love, Yes, doctor feel good, doctor.
Speaker 2 (00:19):
Feel I'm not calling you that, Nicholas. I'm not calling you.
You don't call you that. I don't know. I'm not
calling you that. That's not happened. It's like a cool jay.
But it was like you call me just a good barn.
Speaker 3 (00:31):
But no, Yes, most people, even though my government name
is Nicholas, no one calls me that. Anyone who's played
with me, they don't even call me Nick.
Speaker 2 (00:41):
They call me Nico's.
Speaker 3 (00:42):
Because John Lance started calling me that and everyone since then.
Speaker 2 (00:47):
That's how they referred to me. So what do you prefer?
Speaker 3 (00:51):
I mean, as long as you don't call me out
my name, I mean I'll take anything.
Speaker 1 (00:56):
Yeahs I never read an issue with that Ben and
Benjamin like it was all right so much because football
was always all right. That army it was all bright.
So it was always like my last name. Most people
call him my last name, then by my first name, but.
Speaker 2 (01:07):
Most people can not for very long. I don't.
Speaker 1 (01:11):
I'll tell you what I smiled out either, So cut
that Benchi stuff out of you.
Speaker 2 (01:15):
Ladies.
Speaker 3 (01:15):
You get upset if someone calls you Benny because that
goes well with the Elton Johnson Benny.
Speaker 2 (01:19):
And the Jets. Yeah, I ain't on the Jets. I
ain't writing and hit songs. Don't say that one again.
I ain't Benny. Ain't Benny. He didn't. Then that's a
little little little sensitive because I don't know.
Speaker 3 (01:32):
My teammates would call me, you know, fur delicious, right,
and usually you think you don't never want to refer
to another man and issues.
Speaker 2 (01:41):
Yes, I called him Steve delicious. Ones next week they
called me lumba.
Speaker 4 (01:53):
Yes, yes, for the longest time my whole career, bro,
I thought I thought it was something good, but love
it Lumba.
Speaker 2 (02:00):
Yeah that is.
Speaker 4 (02:04):
They meant like lumbered around though, No, yeah, when they
when I when Dennis retired, he told me that man,
we call you.
Speaker 2 (02:12):
Lomba because you was stiff.
Speaker 4 (02:14):
Come on, wow, man, bro I heard too right, brother,
bring in the woods man.
Speaker 2 (02:23):
I would think some of your safety. And they said
one lumbering man. I didn't know something because when they
was saying a couple of old on man, you laugh
a little too much. Going on five sixty sixty nine zeros.
Speaker 1 (02:41):
The text line Steve at Water in studio with us,
So we gotta Brenda Crstal little later as well.
Speaker 2 (02:47):
Nick, I mean you been the listeners may not know
this because I kept it under reps.
Speaker 1 (02:51):
Okay, but Nick's been doing a scouting internship here with
the never Broncos.
Speaker 2 (02:55):
Yeah, you know what, You're gonna spill all the secrets
right now on this show. Where is your loyalty? Nick? No,
I'm not gonna do that. You don't want to get
You don't want to get your Pierce lip right.
Speaker 1 (03:05):
Now Inroncos Park spirit, right now, sitting here trying to
try to get state secrets.
Speaker 2 (03:09):
It's never gonna happen. A window. Well, I really looked
for Steve looked right.
Speaker 3 (03:22):
Well.
Speaker 2 (03:22):
But big shout out to.
Speaker 3 (03:23):
You because there wasn't too many people who knew about that,
and you kind of kept it on the raps.
Speaker 2 (03:28):
You and I talked about it, but it's been great, man.
Speaker 3 (03:32):
And this is a different way to see the game
of football because when we look at it, it's it's
football business and then there's a business of football. And
you know, most fans, and I'll say this for most
people who cover this team in this media, you figure
out how much they don't know the right They think
they know, but they really don't know because there's so
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many things that go into it.
Speaker 2 (03:57):
Not only don't they know, they don't know what they
don't know. Yes, you know, that's the biggest thing.
Speaker 1 (04:01):
I think that's one of the things because I mean,
you know, there's there's already as players, there's already you.
Speaker 2 (04:06):
Guys know the media, they know a little here, they
know this.
Speaker 1 (04:09):
They don't really understand this kind of stuff that you know,
But then you get inside on the other side of
it and both you know, it's a Brandon bastard.
Speaker 2 (04:15):
Now just gotta intern all that kind of stuff.
Speaker 1 (04:16):
Like you there's there are other aspects of that that
you see that that and you could start.
Speaker 2 (04:20):
To look around the market, but that guy's full of crap.
Speaker 4 (04:23):
Oh yeah, oh yeah, I will say yeah, you can tell,
you can tell.
Speaker 3 (04:26):
Yeah, I will say this. I had a love of
football before. To get you, it's kind of rapped it
up even more. It through the light of flame.
Speaker 2 (04:35):
You've always been like this though, yeah, I have. But
this is different. Is different. The reason is.
Speaker 3 (04:45):
Different because well, you're not playing, but you are watching film.
You're breaking other people down. So the evaluation part of
it goes to a whole different love when you find
out how different you know, the coaching side of it,
which I've done that before, in the scouting side, they're similar,
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but at the same time it's still kind of different.
Speaker 1 (05:09):
I won't want to say this real quick, because we
did get a text message in that said, guys, you
need to rename the show Benny and the Jets because
Nick and Steve are Jets legends.
Speaker 2 (05:18):
No, I'm wow, that's that's from hold On. They get
the name that is from That is from Ryan in Parker. Okay, Ryan,
I'm come to see you, miss Ryan. That Ryan? Okay?
Speaker 3 (05:33):
Ryan?
Speaker 2 (05:34):
All right? Yeah? Teams like all right, I see you
practice tomorrow. Look at what was that? What would you
say that again? What would what would you say? Though?
Speaker 1 (05:44):
It is like the biggest misconception, Uh, you know about
you're inside the building now you know you're doing that.
Speaker 2 (05:49):
Kind of stuff, and you know, I see at the
practice and all that kind of stuff.
Speaker 1 (05:52):
Was what's the biggest misconception that media people have when
tried to cover this team, because I you know.
Speaker 2 (05:56):
I look at this and I see everybody's obsessed with
the quarterback thing right now.
Speaker 1 (06:00):
Obviously so right, but there are certain aspects of playing quarterback.
I think that the media doesn't even focus so out
there this seed to throw in the catch and all
that kind of stuff, and that's a final part of
being a quarterback. I'm looking at this, I'm like, Okay,
who's setting the table right right down?
Speaker 2 (06:15):
We're down there doing team Who's set the table at
this one?
Speaker 1 (06:17):
Is this guy just is this guy having the coach
come over here point this stuff out? Is this guy
seeing what's says and little things like that? And for me,
that's that's the difference that that I look at. But
being on what are things that you're noticing that maybe
fans media aren't.
Speaker 2 (06:31):
Picking up on. We're not getting into specifics. You can't
get it too well.
Speaker 3 (06:34):
When you look at the quarterback position, everyone falls in
love with the guy.
Speaker 2 (06:37):
That's drafted in the first round and there's.
Speaker 3 (06:39):
A significant amount of pressure put on that guy to
go out and perform well. And I know, coming into
the season idea it was like, well, if bo Nicks
doesn't start, then he's a bus right out.
Speaker 2 (06:50):
Of the gate.
Speaker 3 (06:51):
And I'm like, well, that's the stupidest thing I've ever heard,
because we've seen quarterbacks fail because it's not just about
what they're do on the field, but it's what happens
above the neck, and that's confidence.
Speaker 2 (07:03):
Every player needs to play with confidence.
Speaker 3 (07:05):
And for me, I think the best thing for Bo
would be to kind of let him gradually ease into
the stag. And so what if Steadam starts the first
preseason game. What if Steadham is named the starter for
the road game against Seattle.
Speaker 2 (07:19):
I think that's a good tickets. That's great.
Speaker 3 (07:21):
Yes, you want your quarterback to play with confidence, right,
and even if that means you got to bring him
alone slowly.
Speaker 2 (07:27):
That's fine.
Speaker 3 (07:27):
But because this fan base has been thirsty quarterback thirsty
for so many years, they're like.
Speaker 2 (07:35):
Let's take him and throw him out there. Yeah, we
did both. He's a waste of reps. Yes, It's like no, and.
Speaker 3 (07:40):
They say, even if you do it any fails, it's
okay because it's a growing process.
Speaker 2 (07:44):
Real quick.
Speaker 1 (07:45):
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Speaker 2 (07:54):
All you gotta do right.
Speaker 1 (07:55):
Now is called threell three someone three eighty five eighty five.
And let Grant know what Steve's nickname was in the
locker room.
Speaker 2 (08:02):
He just told it to you. You should know it
unless you weren't this so they weren't paying attention. Got
me be listening.
Speaker 1 (08:07):
And the next chance the win's gonna be tomorrow morning between
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Speaker 2 (08:12):
We do have a game coming up this week. How
are you? How are you?
Speaker 1 (08:16):
Coach Payton obviously a notorious Preppers, he prepping for this one.
And the reason that I asked that is because we
play the Colts in the regular season as well.
Speaker 2 (08:25):
Yeah, no, this is preseason. This is.
Speaker 3 (08:30):
Because the whole idea is that you this is evaluation
carry over from training camp. You want to see if
those guys can actually go out and play. Don't forget
that this team is full of young guys. I want
to see guys cut a loose on Sunday. Just go
out there and make plays. And even if you make
a mistake, so what, move on to the next play.
But it's about making sure the guys can go out
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and they can play fast and you have something to
evaluate them from.
Speaker 1 (08:53):
Do you guys remember your first preseason game? How nervous
were you first NFL person game.
Speaker 4 (08:58):
I wasn't too nervous, but I got a chance to
get some confidence in that game.
Speaker 2 (09:05):
To no, today, man, I can play at this level.
You know.
Speaker 3 (09:07):
Let me let me see what was your confidence that
you received. Was you smacking someone?
Speaker 2 (09:12):
Yeah, yeah, exactly.
Speaker 1 (09:15):
Was there a nervousness that you made the first hit
and settle in or were you already settled in?
Speaker 2 (09:19):
It was pretty much settling. You know.
Speaker 4 (09:21):
It's the same thing kind of as it was in college.
You know, you kind of have your rituals. You know
your things you go through before the game, listen to
your music and you know certain stretches and you know
what you're doing the field.
Speaker 2 (09:34):
You run down to the end, do some stretches running back.
Speaker 4 (09:37):
You know, everybody has their own pregame rituals, but that
hopefully gets them ready to play.
Speaker 2 (09:44):
Bro I was different from ivous.
Speaker 3 (09:49):
Throw up.
Speaker 2 (09:51):
No no, no, no, I didn't I didn't throw up. You know.
Speaker 3 (09:53):
It's almost like some of the lyrics from uh the.
Speaker 2 (10:01):
Sweaty.
Speaker 3 (10:03):
It was something like that because well, yes, because and
you didn't want to do that. You didn't want to
get out there and forget plays. But sometimes that would
happen because you look at the stadium.
Speaker 2 (10:16):
You start to look around.
Speaker 3 (10:17):
And you see guys who you were just in college
and you watch them play Monday night football and Sunday
night football, and you're like, I'm I'm I'm actually here.
So you you forget that you are there and you
start spectating, right, and being in safety, playing far away
from the ball, you could spectate, but if you spectate
too long, they're going deep, right.
Speaker 2 (10:39):
So it was kind of one of those things like.
Speaker 3 (10:40):
Man, wow, I mean, oh oh, they almost threw one.
Speaker 2 (10:43):
To the house. And then now you come back to.
Speaker 3 (10:45):
Where your feet are, like, I need to get into
a groove to make sure that I remain with the team.
But I look, man, I'm really excited for a lot
of these young players.
Speaker 2 (10:54):
Von I want to see and a half.
Speaker 1 (11:00):
He started to put it out there over the back pilot.
He went up one hand and pulled that thing in.
I was like, well, you know it really quickly.
Speaker 3 (11:05):
You know who he reminds me of, and not saying
that he's going to grow to beat this guy to
be great.
Speaker 2 (11:12):
If he did. Keenan Allen, you know, was a bit
possession guy like that and all that. Yeah, I think
he's got a little bit more vertical than Kean. But yeah, yeah,
because Keenan wasn't that fast, right, but.
Speaker 3 (11:21):
He was getting out of his brain he geared down. Yeah,
you could definitely get in and out of his breaks.
Speaker 4 (11:27):
I heard that Vele When he was in college though,
he didn't really have great quarterbacking, so he couldn't really
showcase his skills. Now hopefully he'll get a chance to
really show what he can do.
Speaker 1 (11:37):
Yeah, aged for a rookie, like a fine one, yeah
something like that, six years old. But you know, yeah,
I'm looking for I think, I mean, outside of the
big four. I think he's the next guy.
Speaker 2 (11:48):
You know.
Speaker 1 (11:48):
I mean, he's looked just as good as impressive as
a guy's like little Jordan, And to my eyes, that
I've seen out there. I think Troy has kind of
been slower to get started. Looks like he struggled with
a jam a little bit. But and certainly get getting
an air fol from John Morton out there on the field.
Speaker 2 (12:03):
You know, here's the thing.
Speaker 3 (12:05):
I remember when John Morden first kind of made his
presence known.
Speaker 2 (12:11):
And let me tell you so, John Morton announces himself.
Speaker 1 (12:14):
Yes, you know he's out there, like you knew Alex
Gibbs was out there, like you knew Bill Kohlar was
out there.
Speaker 2 (12:19):
You know, when John Morton is out there, I'll say this.
The first time that.
Speaker 3 (12:22):
Happened, you know, media immediately went to their phones and saved,
you know, comments about how coach Morton is on Sorry Franklin,
but it is with good love that he's doing that.
It's with the purpose. He sees something unique and special
in Troy. And I mean I had Bill Parcells and
for me, I think the heavens that I did go
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through New York and I experienced that end of around
so many veteran guys. But yeah, help because yes, because
you get pressed so much to perfection that you have
no choice but to come through.
Speaker 2 (13:00):
I think the other part of that is.
Speaker 1 (13:04):
Knowing that the coach values you enough to give you
that hard coaching.
Speaker 4 (13:09):
Yeah, but I can also say this last seeing it
go the other way where coaches are on players, but
some players don't have that thick skin.
Speaker 2 (13:17):
But that's the player, though, I'm saying, you have to
develop that mindset.
Speaker 1 (13:22):
He's coaching me hard because he sees something in me
and I'm not getting there.
Speaker 2 (13:27):
But what if the player doesn't see it like that?
Speaker 4 (13:28):
If the player instead of like the NFL not for long,
he's picking on me like me, you know, I mean
not to be a.
Speaker 5 (13:37):
Jerk, but you understand I've seen that before.
Speaker 4 (13:39):
Though, Sorry the Michigan Panthers where the players just they
didn't buy into that, you know, they didn't take any criticism.
Speaker 2 (13:47):
But that's the thing I see.
Speaker 1 (13:49):
I think that's the thing that applies universally whether you're
in business.
Speaker 2 (13:51):
I mean, in business, the office a little diff you
can't talk like that. But when I was in the army,
you know, I mean I had when I was you know, little.
Speaker 1 (13:58):
Private Benjamin rolled around some sergeants that had to you know,
they had to get on me at times. And it
may be better for it because I recognize they saws
all ment me and they want to make me recognize
that at the time. Yeah, I'm like, I respond, I've
always responded. Well, I mean I may I may have
had a sassy comment or two under my breath.
Speaker 2 (14:15):
I'm not saying I think we all know that I
might have.
Speaker 1 (14:17):
I might have had a little little fireback under my breath.
But like I've always been like that. I've always been
the coach me hard because when I see you putting
effort into me, whether that's even if it isn't that matter.
If you put effort into me, I'm like, Okay, they
see something to put effort into.
Speaker 2 (14:31):
I got a reward that by being my best self.
Speaker 3 (14:33):
It reminds me of when you start saying that the
opening scene of Full Metal Jacket. Yeah, you have to
be able to push through. And I think, Steve, this
is where some of the players today. And it's gonna
sound like, you know, hey, I'm you know, get off
my long guy, But it is true. Some guys don't
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adhere to that type of coaching.
Speaker 2 (14:59):
Just like we've you guys on a team like that. Yeah,
I mean we say that.
Speaker 1 (15:02):
I'm not trying to say every players like that just
said if you're going to succeed, you're gonna have to
be like that.
Speaker 2 (15:06):
No, I have to find it.
Speaker 1 (15:07):
You either have to have talent that that allows you
to get away with having that attitude but you're not
like that.
Speaker 2 (15:12):
Yeah, or you gotta be you gotta have that. Yeah,
you gotta be. You gotta be your dog.
Speaker 3 (15:18):
Here's something that I don't I both know that Steve
and I can speak to. Right, we were both in
New York with Parcel and Parcels is an acquiet taste.
Speaker 2 (15:31):
Right. That's just one way of putting in because I
always say that there's there's two people. It's Bill and Coach.
Speaker 3 (15:38):
See now Bill is cool, it's all get out well,
Coach Parcels, you're gonna be like, Man, I don't want
to deal with that.
Speaker 2 (15:45):
But you know what tho.
Speaker 4 (15:46):
From my experience with Coach Parcels, he's fairy.
Speaker 2 (15:55):
Tough but fair.
Speaker 4 (15:55):
If if you you come out there and work, he's
gonna get your problems, not even coach you up some
of course, but it's not like he treats some of
the rookie That's how some of the rookies man oh man,
coach who this is heavy? But hey, you got you
gotta have to dix head with him.
Speaker 3 (16:11):
Yeah, if you're not, if you're not ready for it
with him, you might as well grab your ball and
go home.
Speaker 2 (16:17):
Right.
Speaker 3 (16:18):
But that was kind of his test because he knew
the game situation, the in game situations, we're gonna be tough.
Speaker 2 (16:26):
Just think about it, Steve and I play safety.
Speaker 3 (16:28):
If someone throws one over your head, are you still
gonna be thinking about the two plays later or you try.
Speaker 2 (16:32):
To move on? You gold fishing it and moving on.
Speaker 3 (16:35):
That's what he was trying to get out, but a
lot of players could not get with that.
Speaker 4 (16:40):
You should be thinking about that, somebody throwing over your head,
You should be thinking about.
Speaker 1 (16:44):
That for the rest of the game, fishing that. I'm
gonna go fishing. Fifteen seconds later, that's gone and I'm
not letting another one over.
Speaker 3 (16:50):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (16:50):
The reason you better let it go because how does
that happen? Though?
Speaker 1 (16:54):
Change your instincts though, Because if you're harping on that now,
so you're gonna just your.
Speaker 2 (16:57):
Play and you're gonna get me, You're gonna be moving
your depth, Look, get you up underneath. How does that
happen though? How does what happened? You forget it. You know,
how does a guy get b you just let me explain.
Let me see what a man loves a woman? How
fast he roll as ask what was it? What was it? Beefs?
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And here your rugs ran? You remember that. But if
you know that fast you look.
Speaker 3 (17:27):
At tape, you can let us Steve think about what
you're saying. You said if you look at tape, like
we know Johnny Manziel didn't look at tape. We know
Packs and Legend didn't look at DeMarcus Russell tape. So
so you are hoping that these guys look at tape
and also playing in the secondary. The one thing is
that our is our biggest ally is our biggest enemy.
Speaker 2 (17:50):
Our eyes. Oh you see too much. You're looking at
the backfield. They run and play accident.
Speaker 1 (17:55):
Receive it right right, Pack, He's gonna suck you up
on the n p A, try to get you down
on the you know, get you down in or he's
got the receiver gearing down at you know, at twelve yards.
Speaker 2 (18:04):
He takes off. If you don't know what you're looking at,
you cooked.
Speaker 4 (18:07):
Anyway, The coach probably know it already, so you're probably
not gonna be in the game.
Speaker 2 (18:10):
If you don't know what you're looking at that. But
that's why we've always.
Speaker 3 (18:14):
Seen and we will see this, you know, on Sunday,
hopefully not for the Broncos, but for the Colts. Two
DB's in the end zone with their hands up.
Speaker 2 (18:22):
Yeah, looked at each other, like look at each other,
you know you each other? Oh, both of them hoping. Man,
I hope that tape shows it's him. Oh, some of
the games on TV they're like, man, that was my fault.
I remember you telling me about that. Broncos Country tonight
here on KOA. We'll be back after this.
Speaker 1 (18:43):
Welcome back to it, Broncos Country Tonight, Benjamin Albrighten, Nick Ferguson,
Grant Smith here with you. It's like the guy at
the therect center of the court yelling. He gave me
the business man. That dude yelled out something. He yelled
up Popper Dovish. I don't even know what that means. Hey,
this guy had to be I mean this is a
while back, all right. This is like I was in
my twenties. This dude was is mid forties, early fifties.
Speaker 2 (19:01):
You know the way he was seending it up to
be told, you're not making any better. I'm not trying
to make it better. And it was.
Speaker 1 (19:08):
It was literally I got the I got the I
got it headed to me by I mean, I'm in
my athletic prime.
Speaker 2 (19:13):
I'm in my mid twenties.
Speaker 1 (19:14):
This guy was in his late forties, early fifties. Braddy
Gray T shirt whatever, long right tube socks. Yeah, at
the shorty shorts on, at the John Stockton shorts on on.
Speaker 2 (19:26):
Yeah, brotop this dude, No, this wasn't stop bag. This
was the height of like short top.
Speaker 1 (19:32):
This is you know, this is this is the nineties,
two thousand, this is early two thousands. This guy is
yelling out names I've never heard of before, draining everything
from anywhere.
Speaker 4 (19:44):
Anybody understand that, I mean, just like just making it rain.
Speaker 1 (19:51):
Yelling out stuff I never heard of, just and I'm like,
I don't even.
Speaker 2 (19:54):
Know what to do with this.
Speaker 1 (19:55):
Yeah, this guy's beating the brakes up. And he wasn't
I mean, he was taller than me. I mean, you know,
he's like six four, but it wasn't like appreciably you know,
it wasn't like tall.
Speaker 2 (20:03):
But it was like six eight where I couldn't get
a get a hand up. Wait.
Speaker 3 (20:06):
See see those the details you didn't throw in last
time you told me this story.
Speaker 2 (20:11):
He was about six thirty six four, So so now
he's six three six four. Yeah, and then you think
about his.
Speaker 1 (20:15):
Wingspan, but I might mean my arms are long for
my high done.
Speaker 3 (20:20):
Like I'm saying, wait, hold on, hold on, man.
Speaker 2 (20:24):
The way you extended.
Speaker 3 (20:26):
Your arms like you were six six wingspan, but I'm.
Speaker 2 (20:30):
Like sixty two this way. So I'd say, it's not
like you know, we'll get a measures tape out. You see,
you good with numbers. The math is not mathing right now,
I'm five ten vertically and six two with the wingspan.
That's why my arms hang out of my knees.
Speaker 1 (20:41):
That's why I always like, have you ever see me
like when I'm walking, my arms are at an angle.
Speaker 2 (20:44):
That's why, because arms hang out real long.
Speaker 3 (20:46):
Okay, So you couldn't get a hand in his face
or I still couldn't.
Speaker 2 (20:49):
I still couldn't stop him. I'm I get a hand
up in his face, but I could. I mean, you know,
he was definitely tall, but he was just age. It
did not matter.
Speaker 1 (20:55):
This dude was crossing me over. I'm like just shooting,
just just only threes. He never took me to the rim.
It was only three point and he was crossing me over,
just just effortless and lovell whall had fall down.
Speaker 5 (21:10):
But I said I hadn't made my dignity, steve my pride,
my pride and then took my sould that day at
the point I would have went old school Dennis Rodman and.
Speaker 2 (21:22):
Just found Oh I did, and did work man. He
got up there and shot. He shot the free throws.
Speaker 1 (21:27):
Rick Perry stout like Grandy Bucket style and was sitting
I'm just sitting there like.
Speaker 2 (21:32):
I was like, this is woragging to day, this is
literally worse. He sent up there shooting free throws underhanded
and then making them, making the spin back and spin backwards.
It hit and I'm like, man, did did did you
walk home? And did you drive? Oh?
Speaker 1 (21:44):
I put a I put a hoodie on with a
half hole low and I drove.
Speaker 2 (21:48):
Out of there as quickly as like. I was like, man,
I can't go back here. I can't come back to
the gym.
Speaker 3 (21:51):
I'm sure when Ben walked back or after he left,
they put one of those bolo signs on looking out for.
Speaker 2 (21:57):
I was on, I was on milk, I was on
every cart and milk at that gym us Barren five
six sixth times. Here I got two great dvs here.
Speaker 1 (22:06):
What do you think the Broncos defensive back situation? Obviously
with a Kayen Stearns go, he latches on immediately. In
Carolina they took him with the first waiver claim. There
every nights with the geral Verel. But you know, you
look at you look at camp this year and some
of the bodies that we've got mi Jelle Skinner looked
like he's put together a little bit of a little
bit of a camp.
Speaker 2 (22:21):
Of course, you got PJ, you got Brandon Jones, you're
brought in. What do you think of What do you
think of this? De key? Yeah, key, you're bik admit him.
I got to quit doing that. Well, I'll say this.
Speaker 4 (22:32):
If you're saying he's the defense, no, no, I'm saying
that he's.
Speaker 2 (22:37):
In a running.
Speaker 4 (22:38):
He's in a running. He's a smart player. Yeah, well,
if he's here, he's making making us a play.
Speaker 2 (22:42):
And uh hey, that's another position we got to watch.
Speaker 4 (22:45):
I know it's not nearly you're not talking about nearly
as much as a quarterback position, but there's some competition there.
Speaker 2 (22:51):
Yeah, And that's what you want at every position, to.
Speaker 3 (22:56):
Have to make those such decisions when coach is sitting
in the room trying to put the team together.
Speaker 2 (22:59):
But that's another guy. Tanner mcallis place too, the Ree
Taylor kid. All those guys are making some place.
Speaker 3 (23:07):
The great thing about rees Reese reminds me of Chris Harris,
and the reason he mind reminds me of Chris Harris
because Chris didn't give two Nichols. He had already heard
what everyone said about him negatively, of what he was
unable to accomplish, and he just went into practice and
he just took it to cart And when you look
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at Reese, Reese is not one of those guys you figure, okay,
well he's he can play outside. I mean his body
position in the way that he anticipates works well for
playing inside.
Speaker 2 (23:37):
So I mean that that could be a guy who
can back up you know, Jaquan. Is there any scenario
here where you maybe he moved j Jaquan outside. Are
you gonna Kuan slot Man play? Absolutely?
Speaker 1 (23:50):
I call him Jaquon making millions because every time he
out there, he's about to make himself.
Speaker 2 (23:53):
Some more MAXs millions. Yeah, yeah, man, I think that's
a great position.
Speaker 4 (23:58):
I think that's one of the more difficult positions to
play on defense, is that slot cornerback position.
Speaker 2 (24:03):
It's super tough.
Speaker 4 (24:04):
Man, you got to know zone, you got to no man,
you gotta be able to blitz.
Speaker 1 (24:07):
There's an art to it, and Chris really, I think
helped revolutionize the position. You know, there is an art
to It's funny because Chris was a former safety. You know,
I'm used to safety Kansas dropped down the slot here,
you know, in the pro game.
Speaker 2 (24:19):
But there is an art to it.
Speaker 1 (24:20):
And we saw guys like Wes Welker revolutionize the receiver side,
and now we're seeing the CounterPunch with that with cornerside
Chris and Jakwan who has great instincts.
Speaker 3 (24:29):
Yeah, you know, to play in that position in the slot,
you have to be a grown man because you were
simply a linebacker with a smaller body, but you're still
relied on to do those same type of qualities and
bring that same type of physical type of game in
that spot.
Speaker 1 (24:48):
I thought that's why I thought it was so impressive
when Bryce Callahan yeah yeah, he was, I mean he
was my size, said he was five ten, a buck
seventy dripping wet. He was literally my size out there.
And that dude, you know, you got to be fearless
because he saw again.
Speaker 2 (25:03):
Friend's coming here five teen, five nine, five ten, Yeah
he was. And then he's liked buck seventy two. He
was like, right up my weight. He was like, I've
gotten under up one seventy two now thanks to dieting.
But I'm just saying, you know, wils was great and
I was around him in San Francisco. He was in
our day one ka. I was just gonna yeah, Kawan
was upsetting man. That's a one fit dude. Like he
just got too hurt. He was too hurt. Wise it
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was the thing.
Speaker 1 (25:25):
And Rice honestly got hurt too much while he was here.
But both those guys had had a note. Like Price
squared up on Derek Henry one time, remember that game,
the first game of the season or whatever it was.
Speaker 2 (25:32):
He squared up on Derek Henry. I was like, oh,
oh my honor, got running for my life day.
Speaker 4 (25:37):
I'm telling you there are guys on the field who
they may look small, but they have hearts like lying,
oh you.
Speaker 2 (25:42):
Got to hit the dog in Yeah, he might have
three of them, three dogs in him. I'm just saying
that concentrated that's what you.
Speaker 3 (25:48):
Need to have when you are seeing as an undersized
guy in this say, someone saying that you may not
be as big, you may not be as fast.
Speaker 2 (25:59):
Well, what do you make up having that blue collar
work ethic Arizona. Our big is Buddha Baker.
Speaker 1 (26:05):
Yeah, that's another tyred Matthew, you know, exactly call him
honey Badger for a reason, you know, fearless.
Speaker 2 (26:12):
Interesting.
Speaker 1 (26:13):
Justin Simmons went down there for for a dinner and
I think that was a little bit of letters play,
trying to get the indie to put put foot to
gas there and then we'll see you with Justin signs
here shortly.
Speaker 2 (26:22):
But that would I still can't believe it's been this long.
Stu Sason.
Speaker 1 (26:26):
Part of it was him, I part of it was,
you know, he wanted to spend some time with his family.
He had had a real summer to spend with his
family and he kind of enjoyed that. Some of that
was him, some of that was him maybe overestimating his
Mars tag on the market.
Speaker 4 (26:37):
Yeah, yeah, the marketing for safety's right now good, Yeah,
you've seen now you've seen.
Speaker 1 (26:42):
What guys at Quander and getting and stuff like that,
so you you don't really need to be coming in
there looking for you know, three years twenty four, Mili,
you're not gonna get it.
Speaker 3 (26:49):
The league is now doing to the safety position what
they did to the running back.
Speaker 2 (26:55):
Here's the thing. They did it already the safety position.
Speaker 1 (26:57):
Remember when Eric Reid was a free agent, he couldn't
buy Look, even though he'd just been to the Pro Ball.
They did it, and then all of a sudden, this
whole swoop of safetyes got paid again when they when
the league started shifting back to cover tow cover four
and now you're starting to see the league pivot back
to one high and so the safety all the side.
Speaker 3 (27:11):
Well with Eric is it was a little different too,
because he was coming off the whole taking the knee
Colin Kaepernick, that's right situation.
Speaker 2 (27:18):
A lot of people were a little apprehensive amount that.
Speaker 3 (27:20):
But we've seen the undermining of the safety position while
we seeing the tie end position now glorified.
Speaker 2 (27:28):
Right, He's like, well, you have to have safeties who
are able to cover. And this is why when you
look at Tyrn Matthew.
Speaker 3 (27:34):
On the smallest side but he had that work ethic
where he was able to climb the ladder gains some
of those biggest tight ends.
Speaker 1 (27:42):
Welcome back to it, Broncos Country tonight, Benjamin Albrighten. Nick Ferguson,
Grant Smith here with you, scouting use the shouting director
nowt of the Artyenations promoted you.
Speaker 2 (27:50):
All the way at the top. Nick Ferguson, Just Nick Ferguson,
that's the mister Ferguson. If you.
Speaker 1 (27:57):
Five six six zeros of text line. We're going close
to the first preseason game Indianapolis Colts. There's a lot
of sort of cautious optimism in Broncos Country.
Speaker 2 (28:07):
I think state of the quarterback position and all that is,
Jared Stone is probably gonna be starting this game. I
think we know that. You would just with that.
Speaker 4 (28:19):
I think almost every person I've talked to it's like
Zach Wilson's not even in it.
Speaker 2 (28:26):
I don't think that's the case. I think Zach Wilson
is still in the mix.
Speaker 1 (28:29):
Man.
Speaker 2 (28:30):
Yeah, I'll tell you, I do what is he doing
in the quarterback room because he's not doing it on
the field. I'm saying, well, we'll see, we'll see.
Speaker 1 (28:36):
I mean and he's got the best tools, he's got
the strongest army, he is the most athletic of the three.
Speaker 2 (28:41):
But the dude that he is and the dude that
he could be are farther apart than the other two.
But see, I told you.
Speaker 3 (28:46):
This before, and I truly believe is what Zach Wilson
should be aiming for is being the backup. Because here's
the biggest misconception about the quarterback position. And we've heard
it before. If you have more than one quarterback, you
don't have none, right, that's what we've been told. But
here's what we've seen, right, and we have to be
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honest with ourselves. We've seen starting quarterbacks get injured. Then
when that starting quarterback gets injured, now the team is
scrambling for what our backup replacement. So that backup is
I would say, not as valuable as a starter, but
that person is valuable.
Speaker 2 (29:22):
So Zach still has value.
Speaker 3 (29:26):
He's fighting for the number two spot and I don't
know if the Bronco is gonna keep three quarterbacks to
two quarterbacks. But Zach is in a perfect opportunity. No
one is really expecting anything from him.
Speaker 1 (29:36):
Right, So he goes into this game, he lights it up.
All of a sudden, you get some you know, hey,
I'm a gamer. I may not be showing it practice,
but I put it on in the game.
Speaker 2 (29:43):
But I mean he's had some practice where he's done well.
I mean, yeah, I thought today, did he has some
good throw? Here's some throw to make you go okay,
I see why they drafted a number two.
Speaker 1 (29:54):
And then you see some other throws you said, oh see,
I see why they why they traded him for six rounder.
Speaker 2 (29:59):
You know, it's a mixed bag. It's just inconsistent.
Speaker 1 (30:02):
If you could, if you could kind of harness him
and get like finals, find his twelve best throws out
there and be like, hey, dude, I need you to
do this all the time.
Speaker 2 (30:08):
How do we get there?
Speaker 3 (30:09):
But this is why for Zack, and this is the
way I see it for Zack to have success in preseason,
it's going to be a team effort based on what
kind of cause they call form. But more importantly are
the receivers running to get open. Because at the beginning
of the camp something happened where Zach ran on a
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seven h seven drill and I'm standing around people in
the media this was doing like OTA's medi caamp and
they were like, oh, you got to throw the ball
somewhere in seven o seven. I'm just like, okay, well, yeah,
you want that to happen. But coaches, yes, don't throw
the ball into the dirt. But are the receivers winning
at that particular point. So the receivers need to go
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out there and win, and they need to say, okay, listen,
if we win for Zak, we know he's capable of
getting us a ball. If we want to make the team,
we need to make him look good because now he's
going to showcase us in these preseason games.
Speaker 2 (31:03):
I make him look good. I'm opening he's gonna get
me the ball now I look good. That's right. Huh.
Speaker 3 (31:07):
And if you're catching more balls than the other guys
in your receiver court room, guess what your status is
now elevated?
Speaker 2 (31:16):
Yeah, I'm just you know, I I get the impression
they're gonna keep all three. We'll see. I don't think you.
I don't think I would like for them to do that.
I would.
Speaker 1 (31:25):
I mean, and I think from a Sean Payton perspective,
it adds to what it is that he's trying to do.
You know, he's trying to try to shore up that legacy.
He knows he needs to win a Super Bowl with
the Denver Broncos or to make the Hall of Fame,
you know, and do something nobody else has done.
Speaker 2 (31:37):
When Super Bowl two different teams.
Speaker 1 (31:40):
I think if you, if you are the guy who
builds Zach Wilson or what everybody thought he could be,
all of a sudden, you've got that quarterback whisper reputation
and and he reads got on top of it. I'm
telling you that vaults you right to the front of
the line.
Speaker 3 (31:51):
You know.
Speaker 2 (31:52):
I mean we look at there's there's coaches out there
right now that want to make the Hall.
Speaker 1 (31:55):
Got two super Bowls that you know, You're said, you're
sitting behind George Seffert. You're saying, Hi, Mike Shanahan. You said,
Tom Coughlin, You're Sean Paige. You believe you belong in
that Hall of Fame. A couple of things you got
to do to shore that up, because youve got some
readin your ledger from you know, from some other things
that is.
Speaker 3 (32:09):
Able to happen, and he's able, Sean Payton, that is
to revitalize Zach Wilson, to make him look decent average,
whatever you want to say.
Speaker 2 (32:21):
Then now you are the quarterback.
Speaker 3 (32:23):
Whispering no matter what everyone said, because everyone threw Zach
Wilson away, right, I.
Speaker 2 (32:29):
Mean they hate him in New York. I mean it's
not his fault. I mean they could have helped him.
Speaker 3 (32:33):
But this is the best situation for Zach Wilson to
be in a quarterback competition. But you're not competing for
the starting job. You're not, and there's nothing wrong with that.
Who's the player, as I see Steve's Yeah, that's the guys.
Who's the player we're gonna be talking about.
Speaker 1 (32:51):
You know who's player we're gonna be talking about on
Monday that we're not talking about right now.
Speaker 2 (32:54):
Okay, not quarterback or not quarterbacks, just skip the quarter
a Stewigi.
Speaker 1 (32:58):
Who's the player we're gonna be talking about on my
then we're not talking about right now.
Speaker 2 (33:01):
Mike Watson, beg Watson, Big Watson. That's Blake Watson running back.
Speaker 1 (33:06):
Yeah, he's been coming back off that Andrew look pretty
good out there.
Speaker 2 (33:09):
I know he's got a third gear too, Yeah he does.
Speaker 3 (33:11):
There's two guys for me, Greg Dosage, because we haven't
seen helps anywhile.
Speaker 2 (33:16):
With audric estimate. I'm really excited about what he said.
He doesn't have that third gear, but that second gear
is a powerful gear. Yes, but idreke, I think, barring
something crazy, he's he's on the squad. Well, yeah, he's.
Speaker 1 (33:30):
Watson makes the squad because I think you put him
on kick return and then you give him kind.
Speaker 2 (33:34):
Of the squad. Whoa, whoa, wait a minute running backs.
Speaker 3 (33:37):
If you're putting Blake Watson on this roster, what's happening
to Jeelil McLoughlin.
Speaker 1 (33:42):
He's on a rush. You and keep himour running backs? Okay, Atkins,
you keep as an h back. You punt on Burton
because you keep Akins can play has been and he's
been out there playing that H back. You put him
as an H back full back and.
Speaker 2 (33:51):
You give it hi nah Burton.
Speaker 3 (33:53):
I don't see it, and I don't see it that
that's a New Orleans Saints son Peyton guy that you're
kicking to the curve.
Speaker 2 (34:00):
I am no three person. I don't think he will.
I am you.
Speaker 1 (34:04):
I mean I guess you can skimp on receiver, okay,
because I'm trying to think where else you can skimp.
Speaker 2 (34:09):
You're gonna come up, you.
Speaker 1 (34:10):
Come up one short on the old line. I mean,
when we're doing there's roster math here. If you're gonna
keep four, you gotta come up. You gotta okay, in
my in.
Speaker 2 (34:17):
My in my career in the league.
Speaker 3 (34:19):
See, they always keep more offensive linemen, even though those
guys will play on Sunday when they even when they
dress right.
Speaker 2 (34:24):
And so that's what I'm saying. That's the one place
you can you skimp, I guess.
Speaker 3 (34:27):
Because when but when you do that, they take away
from the skilled players, which is always DB's.
Speaker 1 (34:31):
Always say like, if you're doing that, you put the
offensive lineman. You used to call use a practice squad,
call ups that. That's how you get around it. You
call up, you call up an extra body or too
off practe squad if you if you need them.
Speaker 3 (34:42):
See the offensive line once again, those guys are gonna
be in place because John Payton has already said that
he wants to be able to run the ball. I mean,
Drew Brees had a lot of success in the walls
because they were able to protect him up front.
Speaker 2 (34:56):
So they're gonna keep as many as they need to keep.
Maybe maybe you cut Hall of Fame Titan Lucas Croll.
Speaker 3 (35:02):
Nah, nobody believes that Lucas is great. But you're gonna
pull from either the DBS or the wide received.
Speaker 1 (35:14):
It's the thing because if you're keeping him, and I think,
like Trey Mohon, looks like a special team's player. Don't
look him as a corner, but he looks like a
special teams player. It looks like he could be on
kick returns. So you got to keep him, and you
are probably you have to. You put him on the
you could probably sneak him to.
Speaker 3 (35:28):
Practice, because what we're talking about is what we're talking about.
You cannot be a wat trick pony. No no, no, no, no,
not the way that things are now. And remember Russell's contract.
What would the Broncos have this year opposed to what
they don't. So with Raman, you need to prove that
you can be a corner.
Speaker 2 (35:45):
And that's the thing. He's a core special teamer. But
I don't know. If I don't know, we'll see, we'll
see how it checks out. Steve.
Speaker 1 (35:50):
We've got our first game coming up this weekend, guys.
Speaker 2 (35:52):
You guys looking forward to that.
Speaker 1 (35:53):
Obviously you can listen to it right here on KOA
Broncos Country Tonight rolls on after this
Welcome to it, Broncos Country tonight. But with all Brian
Dick Ferguson, Grant Smith, it's a hall of Famer, Steve
that or do we call you?
Speaker 2 (00:05):
Do we call you coach? Ferg Do we call you?
Do we call your Scotty? We just call you intern.
Speaker 1 (00:09):
I don't really know what the title game is here.
I want to make sure we get this right.
Speaker 3 (00:13):
No, you call me Nick Ferguson, Nick Ferguson. That's what
my mom aka doctor love, Yes, doctor feel good, doctor.
Speaker 2 (00:19):
Feel I'm not calling you that, Nicholas. I'm not calling you.
You don't call you that. I don't know. I'm not
calling you that. That's not happened. It's like a cool jay.
But it was like you call me just a good barn.
Speaker 3 (00:31):
But no, Yes, most people, even though my government name
is Nicholas, no one calls me that. Anyone who's played
with me, they don't even call me Nick.
Speaker 2 (00:41):
They call me Nico's.
Speaker 3 (00:42):
Because John Lance started calling me that and everyone since then.
Speaker 2 (00:47):
That's how they referred to me. So what do you prefer?
Speaker 3 (00:51):
I mean, as long as you don't call me out
my name, I mean I'll take anything.
Speaker 1 (00:56):
Yeahs I never read an issue with that Ben and
Benjamin like it was all right so much because football
was always all right. That army it was all bright.
So it was always like my last name. Most people
call him my last name, then by my first name, but.
Speaker 2 (01:07):
Most people can not for very long. I don't.
Speaker 1 (01:11):
I'll tell you what I smiled out either, So cut
that Benchi stuff out of you.
Speaker 2 (01:15):
Ladies.
Speaker 3 (01:15):
You get upset if someone calls you Benny because that
goes well with the Elton Johnson Benny.
Speaker 2 (01:19):
And the Jets. Yeah, I ain't on the Jets. I
ain't writing and hit songs. Don't say that one again.
I ain't Benny. Ain't Benny. He didn't. Then that's a
little little little sensitive because I don't know.
Speaker 3 (01:32):
My teammates would call me, you know, fur delicious, right,
and usually you think you don't never want to refer
to another man and issues.
Speaker 2 (01:41):
Yes, I called him Steve delicious. Ones next week they
called me lumba.
Speaker 4 (01:53):
Yes, yes, for the longest time my whole career, bro,
I thought I thought it was something good, but love
it Lumba.
Speaker 2 (02:00):
Yeah that is.
Speaker 4 (02:04):
They meant like lumbered around though, No, yeah, when they
when I when Dennis retired, he told me that man,
we call you.
Speaker 2 (02:12):
Lomba because you was stiff.
Speaker 4 (02:14):
Come on, wow, man, bro I heard too right, brother,
bring in the woods man.
Speaker 2 (02:23):
I would think some of your safety. And they said
one lumbering man. I didn't know something because when they
was saying a couple of old on man, you laugh
a little too much. Going on five sixty sixty nine zeros.
Speaker 1 (02:41):
The text line Steve at Water in studio with us,
So we gotta Brenda Crstal little later as well.
Speaker 2 (02:47):
Nick, I mean you been the listeners may not know
this because I kept it under reps.
Speaker 1 (02:51):
Okay, but Nick's been doing a scouting internship here with
the never Broncos.
Speaker 2 (02:55):
Yeah, you know what, You're gonna spill all the secrets
right now on this show. Where is your loyalty? Nick? No,
I'm not gonna do that. You don't want to get
You don't want to get your Pierce lip right.
Speaker 1 (03:05):
Now Inroncos Park spirit, right now, sitting here trying to
try to get state secrets.
Speaker 2 (03:09):
It's never gonna happen. A window. Well, I really looked
for Steve looked right.
Speaker 3 (03:22):
Well.
Speaker 2 (03:22):
But big shout out to.
Speaker 3 (03:23):
You because there wasn't too many people who knew about that,
and you kind of kept it on the raps.
Speaker 2 (03:28):
You and I talked about it, but it's been great, man.
Speaker 3 (03:32):
And this is a different way to see the game
of football because when we look at it, it's it's
football business and then there's a business of football. And
you know, most fans, and I'll say this for most
people who cover this team in this media, you figure
out how much they don't know the right They think
they know, but they really don't know because there's so
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many things that go into it.
Speaker 2 (03:57):
Not only don't they know, they don't know what they
don't know. Yes, you know, that's the biggest thing.
Speaker 1 (04:01):
I think that's one of the things because I mean,
you know, there's there's already as players, there's already you.
Speaker 2 (04:06):
Guys know the media, they know a little here, they
know this.
Speaker 1 (04:09):
They don't really understand this kind of stuff that you know,
But then you get inside on the other side of
it and both you know, it's a Brandon bastard.
Speaker 2 (04:15):
Now just gotta intern all that kind of stuff.
Speaker 1 (04:16):
Like you there's there are other aspects of that that
you see that that and you could start.
Speaker 2 (04:20):
To look around the market, but that guy's full of crap.
Speaker 4 (04:23):
Oh yeah, oh yeah, I will say yeah, you can tell,
you can tell.
Speaker 3 (04:26):
Yeah, I will say this. I had a love of
football before. To get you, it's kind of rapped it
up even more. It through the light of flame.
Speaker 2 (04:35):
You've always been like this though, yeah, I have. But
this is different. Is different. The reason is.
Speaker 3 (04:45):
Different because well, you're not playing, but you are watching film.
You're breaking other people down. So the evaluation part of
it goes to a whole different love when you find
out how different you know, the coaching side of it,
which I've done that before, in the scouting side, they're similar,
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but at the same time it's still kind of different.
Speaker 1 (05:09):
I won't want to say this real quick, because we
did get a text message in that said, guys, you
need to rename the show Benny and the Jets because
Nick and Steve are Jets legends.
Speaker 2 (05:18):
No, I'm wow, that's that's from hold On. They get
the name that is from That is from Ryan in Parker. Okay, Ryan,
I'm come to see you, miss Ryan. That Ryan? Okay?
Speaker 3 (05:33):
Ryan?
Speaker 2 (05:34):
All right? Yeah? Teams like all right, I see you
practice tomorrow. Look at what was that? What would you
say that again? What would what would you say? Though?
Speaker 1 (05:44):
It is like the biggest misconception, Uh, you know about
you're inside the building now you know you're doing that.
Speaker 2 (05:49):
Kind of stuff, and you know, I see at the
practice and all that kind of stuff.
Speaker 1 (05:52):
Was what's the biggest misconception that media people have when
tried to cover this team, because I you know.
Speaker 2 (05:56):
I look at this and I see everybody's obsessed with
the quarterback thing right now.
Speaker 1 (06:00):
Obviously so right, but there are certain aspects of playing quarterback.
I think that the media doesn't even focus so out
there this seed to throw in the catch and all
that kind of stuff, and that's a final part of
being a quarterback. I'm looking at this, I'm like, Okay,
who's setting the table right right down?
Speaker 2 (06:15):
We're down there doing team Who's set the table at
this one?
Speaker 1 (06:17):
Is this guy just is this guy having the coach
come over here point this stuff out? Is this guy
seeing what's says and little things like that? And for me,
that's that's the difference that that I look at. But
being on what are things that you're noticing that maybe
fans media aren't.
Speaker 2 (06:31):
Picking up on. We're not getting into specifics. You can't
get it too well.
Speaker 3 (06:34):
When you look at the quarterback position, everyone falls in
love with the guy.
Speaker 2 (06:37):
That's drafted in the first round and there's.
Speaker 3 (06:39):
A significant amount of pressure put on that guy to
go out and perform well. And I know, coming into
the season idea it was like, well, if bo Nicks
doesn't start, then he's a bus right out.
Speaker 2 (06:50):
Of the gate.
Speaker 3 (06:51):
And I'm like, well, that's the stupidest thing I've ever heard,
because we've seen quarterbacks fail because it's not just about
what they're do on the field, but it's what happens
above the neck, and that's confidence.
Speaker 2 (07:03):
Every player needs to play with confidence.
Speaker 3 (07:05):
And for me, I think the best thing for Bo
would be to kind of let him gradually ease into
the stag. And so what if Steadam starts the first
preseason game. What if Steadham is named the starter for
the road game against Seattle.
Speaker 2 (07:19):
I think that's a good tickets. That's great.
Speaker 3 (07:21):
Yes, you want your quarterback to play with confidence, right,
and even if that means you got to bring him
alone slowly.
Speaker 2 (07:27):
That's fine.
Speaker 3 (07:27):
But because this fan base has been thirsty quarterback thirsty
for so many years, they're like.
Speaker 2 (07:35):
Let's take him and throw him out there. Yeah, we
did both. He's a waste of reps. Yes, It's like no, and.
Speaker 3 (07:40):
They say, even if you do it any fails, it's
okay because it's a growing process.
Speaker 2 (07:44):
Real quick.
Speaker 1 (07:45):
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Speaker 2 (07:54):
All you gotta do right.
Speaker 1 (07:55):
Now is called threell three someone three eighty five eighty five.
And let Grant know what Steve's nickname was in the
locker room.
Speaker 2 (08:02):
He just told it to you. You should know it
unless you weren't this so they weren't paying attention. Got
me be listening.
Speaker 1 (08:07):
And the next chance the win's gonna be tomorrow morning between
eight thirty nine on Colorado's Morning News.
Speaker 2 (08:12):
We do have a game coming up this week. How
are you? How are you?
Speaker 1 (08:16):
Coach Payton obviously a notorious Preppers, he prepping for this one.
And the reason that I asked that is because we
play the Colts in the regular season as well.
Speaker 2 (08:25):
Yeah, no, this is preseason. This is.
Speaker 3 (08:30):
Because the whole idea is that you this is evaluation
carry over from training camp. You want to see if
those guys can actually go out and play. Don't forget
that this team is full of young guys. I want
to see guys cut a loose on Sunday. Just go
out there and make plays. And even if you make
a mistake, so what, move on to the next play.
But it's about making sure the guys can go out
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and they can play fast and you have something to
evaluate them from.
Speaker 1 (08:53):
Do you guys remember your first preseason game? How nervous
were you first NFL person game.
Speaker 4 (08:58):
I wasn't too nervous, but I got a chance to
get some confidence in that game.
Speaker 2 (09:05):
To no, today, man, I can play at this level.
You know.
Speaker 3 (09:07):
Let me let me see what was your confidence that
you received. Was you smacking someone?
Speaker 2 (09:12):
Yeah, yeah, exactly.
Speaker 1 (09:15):
Was there a nervousness that you made the first hit
and settle in or were you already settled in?
Speaker 2 (09:19):
It was pretty much settling. You know.
Speaker 4 (09:21):
It's the same thing kind of as it was in college.
You know, you kind of have your rituals. You know
your things you go through before the game, listen to
your music and you know certain stretches and you know
what you're doing the field.
Speaker 2 (09:34):
You run down to the end, do some stretches running back.
Speaker 4 (09:37):
You know, everybody has their own pregame rituals, but that
hopefully gets them ready to play.
Speaker 2 (09:44):
Bro I was different from ivous.
Speaker 3 (09:49):
Throw up.
Speaker 2 (09:51):
No no, no, no, I didn't I didn't throw up. You know.
Speaker 3 (09:53):
It's almost like some of the lyrics from uh the.
Speaker 2 (10:01):
Sweaty.
Speaker 3 (10:03):
It was something like that because well, yes, because and
you didn't want to do that. You didn't want to
get out there and forget plays. But sometimes that would
happen because you look at the stadium.
Speaker 2 (10:16):
You start to look around.
Speaker 3 (10:17):
And you see guys who you were just in college
and you watch them play Monday night football and Sunday
night football, and you're like, I'm I'm I'm actually here.
So you you forget that you are there and you
start spectating, right, and being in safety, playing far away
from the ball, you could spectate, but if you spectate
too long, they're going deep, right.
Speaker 2 (10:39):
So it was kind of one of those things like.
Speaker 3 (10:40):
Man, wow, I mean, oh oh, they almost threw one.
Speaker 2 (10:43):
To the house. And then now you come back to.
Speaker 3 (10:45):
Where your feet are, like, I need to get into
a groove to make sure that I remain with the team.
But I look, man, I'm really excited for a lot
of these young players.
Speaker 2 (10:54):
Von I want to see and a half.
Speaker 1 (11:00):
He started to put it out there over the back pilot.
He went up one hand and pulled that thing in.
I was like, well, you know it really quickly.
Speaker 3 (11:05):
You know who he reminds me of, and not saying
that he's going to grow to beat this guy to
be great.
Speaker 2 (11:12):
If he did. Keenan Allen, you know, was a bit
possession guy like that and all that. Yeah, I think
he's got a little bit more vertical than Kean. But yeah, yeah,
because Keenan wasn't that fast, right, but.
Speaker 3 (11:21):
He was getting out of his brain he geared down. Yeah,
you could definitely get in and out of his breaks.
Speaker 4 (11:27):
I heard that Vele When he was in college though,
he didn't really have great quarterbacking, so he couldn't really
showcase his skills. Now hopefully he'll get a chance to
really show what he can do.
Speaker 1 (11:37):
Yeah, aged for a rookie, like a fine one, yeah
something like that, six years old. But you know, yeah,
I'm looking for I think, I mean, outside of the
big four. I think he's the next guy.
Speaker 2 (11:48):
You know.
Speaker 1 (11:48):
I mean, he's looked just as good as impressive as
a guy's like little Jordan, And to my eyes, that
I've seen out there. I think Troy has kind of
been slower to get started. Looks like he struggled with
a jam a little bit. But and certainly get getting
an air fol from John Morton out there on the field.
Speaker 2 (12:03):
You know, here's the thing.
Speaker 3 (12:05):
I remember when John Morden first kind of made his
presence known.
Speaker 2 (12:11):
And let me tell you so, John Morton announces himself.
Speaker 1 (12:14):
Yes, you know he's out there, like you knew Alex
Gibbs was out there, like you knew Bill Kohlar was
out there.
Speaker 2 (12:19):
You know, when John Morton is out there, I'll say this.
The first time that.
Speaker 3 (12:22):
Happened, you know, media immediately went to their phones and saved,
you know, comments about how coach Morton is on Sorry Franklin,
but it is with good love that he's doing that.
It's with the purpose. He sees something unique and special
in Troy. And I mean I had Bill Parcells and
for me, I think the heavens that I did go
(12:45):
through New York and I experienced that end of around
so many veteran guys. But yeah, help because yes, because
you get pressed so much to perfection that you have
no choice but to come through.
Speaker 2 (13:00):
I think the other part of that is.
Speaker 1 (13:04):
Knowing that the coach values you enough to give you
that hard coaching.
Speaker 4 (13:09):
Yeah, but I can also say this last seeing it
go the other way where coaches are on players, but
some players don't have that thick skin.
Speaker 2 (13:17):
But that's the player, though, I'm saying, you have to
develop that mindset.
Speaker 1 (13:22):
He's coaching me hard because he sees something in me
and I'm not getting there.
Speaker 2 (13:27):
But what if the player doesn't see it like that?
Speaker 4 (13:28):
If the player instead of like the NFL not for long,
he's picking on me like me, you know, I mean
not to be a.
Speaker 5 (13:37):
Jerk, but you understand I've seen that before.
Speaker 4 (13:39):
Though, Sorry the Michigan Panthers where the players just they
didn't buy into that, you know, they didn't take any criticism.
Speaker 2 (13:47):
But that's the thing I see.
Speaker 1 (13:49):
I think that's the thing that applies universally whether you're
in business.
Speaker 2 (13:51):
I mean, in business, the office a little diff you
can't talk like that. But when I was in the army,
you know, I mean I had when I was you know, little.
Speaker 1 (13:58):
Private Benjamin rolled around some sergeants that had to you know,
they had to get on me at times. And it
may be better for it because I recognize they saws
all ment me and they want to make me recognize
that at the time. Yeah, I'm like, I respond, I've
always responded. Well, I mean I may I may have
had a sassy comment or two under my breath.
Speaker 2 (14:15):
I'm not saying I think we all know that I
might have.
Speaker 1 (14:17):
I might have had a little little fireback under my breath.
But like I've always been like that. I've always been
the coach me hard because when I see you putting
effort into me, whether that's even if it isn't that matter.
If you put effort into me, I'm like, Okay, they
see something to put effort into.
Speaker 2 (14:31):
I got a reward that by being my best self.
Speaker 3 (14:33):
It reminds me of when you start saying that the
opening scene of Full Metal Jacket. Yeah, you have to
be able to push through. And I think, Steve, this
is where some of the players today. And it's gonna
sound like, you know, hey, I'm you know, get off
my long guy, But it is true. Some guys don't
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adhere to that type of coaching.
Speaker 2 (14:59):
Just like we've you guys on a team like that. Yeah,
I mean we say that.
Speaker 1 (15:02):
I'm not trying to say every players like that just
said if you're going to succeed, you're gonna have to
be like that.
Speaker 2 (15:06):
No, I have to find it.
Speaker 1 (15:07):
You either have to have talent that that allows you
to get away with having that attitude but you're not
like that.
Speaker 2 (15:12):
Yeah, or you gotta be you gotta have that. Yeah,
you gotta be. You gotta be your dog.
Speaker 3 (15:18):
Here's something that I don't I both know that Steve
and I can speak to. Right, we were both in
New York with Parcel and Parcels is an acquiet taste.
Speaker 2 (15:31):
Right. That's just one way of putting in because I
always say that there's there's two people. It's Bill and Coach.
Speaker 3 (15:38):
See now Bill is cool, it's all get out well,
Coach Parcels, you're gonna be like, Man, I don't want
to deal with that.
Speaker 2 (15:45):
But you know what tho.
Speaker 4 (15:46):
From my experience with Coach Parcels, he's fairy.
Speaker 2 (15:55):
Tough but fair.
Speaker 4 (15:55):
If if you you come out there and work, he's
gonna get your problems, not even coach you up some
of course, but it's not like he treats some of
the rookie That's how some of the rookies man oh man,
coach who this is heavy? But hey, you got you
gotta have to dix head with him.
Speaker 3 (16:11):
Yeah, if you're not, if you're not ready for it
with him, you might as well grab your ball and
go home.
Speaker 2 (16:17):
Right.
Speaker 3 (16:18):
But that was kind of his test because he knew
the game situation, the in game situations, we're gonna be tough.
Speaker 2 (16:26):
Just think about it, Steve and I play safety.
Speaker 3 (16:28):
If someone throws one over your head, are you still
gonna be thinking about the two plays later or you try.
Speaker 2 (16:32):
To move on? You gold fishing it and moving on.
Speaker 3 (16:35):
That's what he was trying to get out, but a
lot of players could not get with that.
Speaker 4 (16:40):
You should be thinking about that, somebody throwing over your head,
You should be thinking about.
Speaker 1 (16:44):
That for the rest of the game, fishing that. I'm
gonna go fishing. Fifteen seconds later, that's gone and I'm
not letting another one over.
Speaker 3 (16:50):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (16:50):
The reason you better let it go because how does
that happen? Though?
Speaker 1 (16:54):
Change your instincts though, Because if you're harping on that now,
so you're gonna just your.
Speaker 2 (16:57):
Play and you're gonna get me, You're gonna be moving
your depth, Look, get you up underneath. How does that
happen though? How does what happened? You forget it. You know,
how does a guy get b you just let me explain.
Let me see what a man loves a woman? How
fast he roll as ask what was it? What was it? Beefs?
(17:23):
And here your rugs ran? You remember that. But if
you know that fast you look.
Speaker 3 (17:27):
At tape, you can let us Steve think about what
you're saying. You said if you look at tape, like
we know Johnny Manziel didn't look at tape. We know
Packs and Legend didn't look at DeMarcus Russell tape. So
so you are hoping that these guys look at tape
and also playing in the secondary. The one thing is
that our is our biggest ally is our biggest enemy.
Speaker 2 (17:50):
Our eyes. Oh you see too much. You're looking at
the backfield. They run and play accident.
Speaker 1 (17:55):
Receive it right right, Pack, He's gonna suck you up
on the n p A, try to get you down
on the you know, get you down in or he's
got the receiver gearing down at you know, at twelve yards.
Speaker 2 (18:04):
He takes off. If you don't know what you're looking at,
you cooked.
Speaker 4 (18:07):
Anyway, The coach probably know it already, so you're probably
not gonna be in the game.
Speaker 2 (18:10):
If you don't know what you're looking at that. But
that's why we've always.
Speaker 3 (18:14):
Seen and we will see this, you know, on Sunday,
hopefully not for the Broncos, but for the Colts. Two
DB's in the end zone with their hands up.
Speaker 2 (18:22):
Yeah, looked at each other, like look at each other,
you know you each other? Oh, both of them hoping. Man,
I hope that tape shows it's him. Oh, some of
the games on TV they're like, man, that was my fault.
I remember you telling me about that. Broncos Country tonight
here on KOA. We'll be back after this.
Speaker 1 (18:43):
Welcome back to it, Broncos Country Tonight, Benjamin Albrighten, Nick Ferguson,
Grant Smith here with you. It's like the guy at
the therect center of the court yelling. He gave me
the business man. That dude yelled out something. He yelled
up Popper Dovish. I don't even know what that means. Hey,
this guy had to be I mean this is a
while back, all right. This is like I was in
my twenties. This dude was is mid forties, early fifties.
Speaker 2 (19:01):
You know the way he was seending it up to
be told, you're not making any better. I'm not trying
to make it better. And it was.
Speaker 1 (19:08):
It was literally I got the I got the I
got it headed to me by I mean, I'm in
my athletic prime.
Speaker 2 (19:13):
I'm in my mid twenties.
Speaker 1 (19:14):
This guy was in his late forties, early fifties. Braddy
Gray T shirt whatever, long right tube socks. Yeah, at
the shorty shorts on, at the John Stockton shorts on on.
Speaker 2 (19:26):
Yeah, brotop this dude, No, this wasn't stop bag. This
was the height of like short top.
Speaker 1 (19:32):
This is you know, this is this is the nineties,
two thousand, this is early two thousands. This guy is
yelling out names I've never heard of before, draining everything
from anywhere.
Speaker 4 (19:44):
Anybody understand that, I mean, just like just making it rain.
Speaker 1 (19:51):
Yelling out stuff I never heard of, just and I'm like,
I don't even.
Speaker 2 (19:54):
Know what to do with this.
Speaker 1 (19:55):
Yeah, this guy's beating the brakes up. And he wasn't
I mean, he was taller than me. I mean, you know,
he's like six four, but it wasn't like appreciably you know,
it wasn't like tall.
Speaker 2 (20:03):
But it was like six eight where I couldn't get
a get a hand up. Wait.
Speaker 3 (20:06):
See see those the details you didn't throw in last
time you told me this story.
Speaker 2 (20:11):
He was about six thirty six four, So so now
he's six three six four. Yeah, and then you think
about his.
Speaker 1 (20:15):
Wingspan, but I might mean my arms are long for
my high done.
Speaker 3 (20:20):
Like I'm saying, wait, hold on, hold on, man.
Speaker 2 (20:24):
The way you extended.
Speaker 3 (20:26):
Your arms like you were six six wingspan, but I'm.
Speaker 2 (20:30):
Like sixty two this way. So I'd say, it's not
like you know, we'll get a measures tape out. You see,
you good with numbers. The math is not mathing right now,
I'm five ten vertically and six two with the wingspan.
That's why my arms hang out of my knees.
Speaker 1 (20:41):
That's why I always like, have you ever see me
like when I'm walking, my arms are at an angle.
Speaker 2 (20:44):
That's why, because arms hang out real long.
Speaker 3 (20:46):
Okay, So you couldn't get a hand in his face
or I still couldn't.
Speaker 2 (20:49):
I still couldn't stop him. I'm I get a hand
up in his face, but I could. I mean, you know,
he was definitely tall, but he was just age. It
did not matter.
Speaker 1 (20:55):
This dude was crossing me over. I'm like just shooting,
just just only threes. He never took me to the rim.
It was only three point and he was crossing me over,
just just effortless and lovell whall had fall down.
Speaker 5 (21:10):
But I said I hadn't made my dignity, steve my pride,
my pride and then took my sould that day at
the point I would have went old school Dennis Rodman and.
Speaker 2 (21:22):
Just found Oh I did, and did work man. He
got up there and shot. He shot the free throws.
Speaker 1 (21:27):
Rick Perry stout like Grandy Bucket style and was sitting
I'm just sitting there like.
Speaker 2 (21:32):
I was like, this is woragging to day, this is
literally worse. He sent up there shooting free throws underhanded
and then making them, making the spin back and spin backwards.
It hit and I'm like, man, did did did you
walk home? And did you drive? Oh?
Speaker 1 (21:44):
I put a I put a hoodie on with a
half hole low and I drove.
Speaker 2 (21:48):
Out of there as quickly as like. I was like, man,
I can't go back here. I can't come back to
the gym.
Speaker 3 (21:51):
I'm sure when Ben walked back or after he left,
they put one of those bolo signs on looking out for.
Speaker 2 (21:57):
I was on, I was on milk, I was on
every cart and milk at that gym us Barren five
six sixth times. Here I got two great dvs here.
Speaker 1 (22:06):
What do you think the Broncos defensive back situation? Obviously
with a Kayen Stearns go, he latches on immediately. In
Carolina they took him with the first waiver claim. There
every nights with the geral Verel. But you know, you
look at you look at camp this year and some
of the bodies that we've got mi Jelle Skinner looked
like he's put together a little bit of a little
bit of a camp.
Speaker 2 (22:21):
Of course, you got PJ, you got Brandon Jones, you're
brought in. What do you think of What do you
think of this? De key? Yeah, key, you're bik admit him.
I got to quit doing that. Well, I'll say this.
Speaker 4 (22:32):
If you're saying he's the defense, no, no, I'm saying
that he's.
Speaker 2 (22:37):
In a running.
Speaker 4 (22:38):
He's in a running. He's a smart player. Yeah, well,
if he's here, he's making making us a play.
Speaker 2 (22:42):
And uh hey, that's another position we got to watch.
Speaker 4 (22:45):
I know it's not nearly you're not talking about nearly
as much as a quarterback position, but there's some competition there.
Speaker 2 (22:51):
Yeah, And that's what you want at every position, to.
Speaker 3 (22:56):
Have to make those such decisions when coach is sitting
in the room trying to put the team together.
Speaker 2 (22:59):
But that's another guy. Tanner mcallis place too, the Ree
Taylor kid. All those guys are making some place.
Speaker 3 (23:07):
The great thing about rees Reese reminds me of Chris Harris,
and the reason he mind reminds me of Chris Harris
because Chris didn't give two Nichols. He had already heard
what everyone said about him negatively, of what he was
unable to accomplish, and he just went into practice and
he just took it to cart And when you look
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at Reese, Reese is not one of those guys you figure, okay,
well he's he can play outside. I mean his body
position in the way that he anticipates works well for
playing inside.
Speaker 2 (23:37):
So I mean that that could be a guy who
can back up you know, Jaquan. Is there any scenario
here where you maybe he moved j Jaquan outside. Are
you gonna Kuan slot Man play? Absolutely?
Speaker 1 (23:50):
I call him Jaquon making millions because every time he
out there, he's about to make himself.
Speaker 2 (23:53):
Some more MAXs millions. Yeah, yeah, man, I think that's
a great position.
Speaker 4 (23:58):
I think that's one of the more difficult positions to
play on defense, is that slot cornerback position.
Speaker 2 (24:03):
It's super tough.
Speaker 4 (24:04):
Man, you got to know zone, you got to no man,
you gotta be able to blitz.
Speaker 1 (24:07):
There's an art to it, and Chris really, I think
helped revolutionize the position. You know, there is an art
to It's funny because Chris was a former safety. You know,
I'm used to safety Kansas dropped down the slot here,
you know, in the pro game.
Speaker 2 (24:19):
But there is an art to it.
Speaker 1 (24:20):
And we saw guys like Wes Welker revolutionize the receiver side,
and now we're seeing the CounterPunch with that with cornerside
Chris and Jakwan who has great instincts.
Speaker 3 (24:29):
Yeah, you know, to play in that position in the slot,
you have to be a grown man because you were
simply a linebacker with a smaller body, but you're still
relied on to do those same type of qualities and
bring that same type of physical type of game in
that spot.
Speaker 1 (24:48):
I thought that's why I thought it was so impressive
when Bryce Callahan yeah yeah, he was, I mean he
was my size, said he was five ten, a buck
seventy dripping wet. He was literally my size out there.
And that dude, you know, you got to be fearless
because he saw again.
Speaker 2 (25:03):
Friend's coming here five teen, five nine, five ten, Yeah
he was. And then he's liked buck seventy two. He
was like, right up my weight. He was like, I've
gotten under up one seventy two now thanks to dieting.
But I'm just saying, you know, wils was great and
I was around him in San Francisco. He was in
our day one ka. I was just gonna yeah, Kawan
was upsetting man. That's a one fit dude. Like he
just got too hurt. He was too hurt. Wise it
(25:25):
was the thing.
Speaker 1 (25:25):
And Rice honestly got hurt too much while he was here.
But both those guys had had a note. Like Price
squared up on Derek Henry one time, remember that game,
the first game of the season or whatever it was.
Speaker 2 (25:32):
He squared up on Derek Henry. I was like, oh,
oh my honor, got running for my life day.
Speaker 4 (25:37):
I'm telling you there are guys on the field who
they may look small, but they have hearts like lying,
oh you.
Speaker 2 (25:42):
Got to hit the dog in Yeah, he might have
three of them, three dogs in him. I'm just saying
that concentrated that's what you.
Speaker 3 (25:48):
Need to have when you are seeing as an undersized
guy in this say, someone saying that you may not
be as big, you may not be as fast.
Speaker 2 (25:59):
Well, what do you make up having that blue collar
work ethic Arizona. Our big is Buddha Baker.
Speaker 1 (26:05):
Yeah, that's another tyred Matthew, you know, exactly call him
honey Badger for a reason, you know, fearless.
Speaker 2 (26:12):
Interesting.
Speaker 1 (26:13):
Justin Simmons went down there for for a dinner and
I think that was a little bit of letters play,
trying to get the indie to put put foot to
gas there and then we'll see you with Justin signs
here shortly.
Speaker 2 (26:22):
But that would I still can't believe it's been this long.
Stu Sason.
Speaker 1 (26:26):
Part of it was him, I part of it was,
you know, he wanted to spend some time with his family.
He had had a real summer to spend with his
family and he kind of enjoyed that. Some of that
was him, some of that was him maybe overestimating his
Mars tag on the market.
Speaker 4 (26:37):
Yeah, yeah, the marketing for safety's right now good, Yeah,
you've seen now you've seen.
Speaker 1 (26:42):
What guys at Quander and getting and stuff like that,
so you you don't really need to be coming in
there looking for you know, three years twenty four, Mili,
you're not gonna get it.
Speaker 3 (26:49):
The league is now doing to the safety position what
they did to the running back.
Speaker 2 (26:55):
Here's the thing. They did it already the safety position.
Speaker 1 (26:57):
Remember when Eric Reid was a free agent, he couldn't
buy Look, even though he'd just been to the Pro Ball.
They did it, and then all of a sudden, this
whole swoop of safetyes got paid again when they when
the league started shifting back to cover tow cover four
and now you're starting to see the league pivot back
to one high and so the safety all the side.
Speaker 3 (27:11):
Well with Eric is it was a little different too,
because he was coming off the whole taking the knee
Colin Kaepernick, that's right situation.
Speaker 2 (27:18):
A lot of people were a little apprehensive amount that.
Speaker 3 (27:20):
But we've seen the undermining of the safety position while
we seeing the tie end position now glorified.
Speaker 2 (27:28):
Right, He's like, well, you have to have safeties who
are able to cover. And this is why when you
look at Tyrn Matthew.
Speaker 3 (27:34):
On the smallest side but he had that work ethic
where he was able to climb the ladder gains some
of those biggest tight ends.
Speaker 1 (27:42):
Welcome back to it, Broncos Country tonight, Benjamin Albrighten. Nick Ferguson,
Grant Smith here with you, scouting use the shouting director
nowt of the Artyenations promoted you.
Speaker 2 (27:50):
All the way at the top. Nick Ferguson, Just Nick Ferguson,
that's the mister Ferguson. If you.
Speaker 1 (27:57):
Five six six zeros of text line. We're going close
to the first preseason game Indianapolis Colts. There's a lot
of sort of cautious optimism in Broncos Country.
Speaker 2 (28:07):
I think state of the quarterback position and all that is,
Jared Stone is probably gonna be starting this game. I
think we know that. You would just with that.
Speaker 4 (28:19):
I think almost every person I've talked to it's like
Zach Wilson's not even in it.
Speaker 2 (28:26):
I don't think that's the case. I think Zach Wilson
is still in the mix.
Speaker 1 (28:29):
Man.
Speaker 2 (28:30):
Yeah, I'll tell you, I do what is he doing
in the quarterback room because he's not doing it on
the field. I'm saying, well, we'll see, we'll see.
Speaker 1 (28:36):
I mean and he's got the best tools, he's got
the strongest army, he is the most athletic of the three.
Speaker 2 (28:41):
But the dude that he is and the dude that
he could be are farther apart than the other two.
But see, I told you.
Speaker 3 (28:46):
This before, and I truly believe is what Zach Wilson
should be aiming for is being the backup. Because here's
the biggest misconception about the quarterback position. And we've heard
it before. If you have more than one quarterback, you
don't have none, right, that's what we've been told. But
here's what we've seen, right, and we have to be
(29:06):
honest with ourselves. We've seen starting quarterbacks get injured. Then
when that starting quarterback gets injured, now the team is
scrambling for what our backup replacement. So that backup is
I would say, not as valuable as a starter, but
that person is valuable.
Speaker 2 (29:22):
So Zach still has value.
Speaker 3 (29:26):
He's fighting for the number two spot and I don't
know if the Bronco is gonna keep three quarterbacks to
two quarterbacks. But Zach is in a perfect opportunity. No
one is really expecting anything from him.
Speaker 1 (29:36):
Right, So he goes into this game, he lights it up.
All of a sudden, you get some you know, hey,
I'm a gamer. I may not be showing it practice,
but I put it on in the game.
Speaker 2 (29:43):
But I mean he's had some practice where he's done well.
I mean, yeah, I thought today, did he has some
good throw? Here's some throw to make you go okay,
I see why they drafted a number two.
Speaker 1 (29:54):
And then you see some other throws you said, oh see,
I see why they why they traded him for six rounder.
Speaker 2 (29:59):
You know, it's a mixed bag. It's just inconsistent.
Speaker 1 (30:02):
If you could, if you could kind of harness him
and get like finals, find his twelve best throws out
there and be like, hey, dude, I need you to
do this all the time.
Speaker 2 (30:08):
How do we get there?
Speaker 3 (30:09):
But this is why for Zack, and this is the
way I see it for Zack to have success in preseason,
it's going to be a team effort based on what
kind of cause they call form. But more importantly are
the receivers running to get open. Because at the beginning
of the camp something happened where Zach ran on a
(30:29):
seven h seven drill and I'm standing around people in
the media this was doing like OTA's medi caamp and
they were like, oh, you got to throw the ball
somewhere in seven o seven. I'm just like, okay, well, yeah,
you want that to happen. But coaches, yes, don't throw
the ball into the dirt. But are the receivers winning
at that particular point. So the receivers need to go
(30:50):
out there and win, and they need to say, okay, listen,
if we win for Zak, we know he's capable of
getting us a ball. If we want to make the team,
we need to make him look good because now he's
going to showcase us in these preseason games.
Speaker 2 (31:03):
I make him look good. I'm opening he's gonna get
me the ball now I look good. That's right. Huh.
Speaker 3 (31:07):
And if you're catching more balls than the other guys
in your receiver court room, guess what your status is
now elevated?
Speaker 2 (31:16):
Yeah, I'm just you know, I I get the impression
they're gonna keep all three. We'll see. I don't think you.
I don't think I would like for them to do that.
I would.
Speaker 1 (31:25):
I mean, and I think from a Sean Payton perspective,
it adds to what it is that he's trying to do.
You know, he's trying to try to shore up that legacy.
He knows he needs to win a Super Bowl with
the Denver Broncos or to make the Hall of Fame,
you know, and do something nobody else has done.
Speaker 2 (31:37):
When Super Bowl two different teams.
Speaker 1 (31:40):
I think if you, if you are the guy who
builds Zach Wilson or what everybody thought he could be,
all of a sudden, you've got that quarterback whisper reputation
and and he reads got on top of it. I'm
telling you that vaults you right to the front of
the line.
Speaker 3 (31:51):
You know.
Speaker 2 (31:52):
I mean we look at there's there's coaches out there
right now that want to make the Hall.
Speaker 1 (31:55):
Got two super Bowls that you know, You're said, you're
sitting behind George Seffert. You're saying, Hi, Mike Shanahan. You said,
Tom Coughlin, You're Sean Paige. You believe you belong in
that Hall of Fame. A couple of things you got
to do to shore that up, because youve got some
readin your ledger from you know, from some other things
that is.
Speaker 3 (32:09):
Able to happen, and he's able, Sean Payton, that is
to revitalize Zach Wilson, to make him look decent average,
whatever you want to say.
Speaker 2 (32:21):
Then now you are the quarterback.
Speaker 3 (32:23):
Whispering no matter what everyone said, because everyone threw Zach
Wilson away, right, I.
Speaker 2 (32:29):
Mean they hate him in New York. I mean it's
not his fault. I mean they could have helped him.
Speaker 3 (32:33):
But this is the best situation for Zach Wilson to
be in a quarterback competition. But you're not competing for
the starting job. You're not, and there's nothing wrong with that.
Who's the player, as I see Steve's Yeah, that's the guys.
Who's the player we're gonna be talking about.
Speaker 1 (32:51):
You know who's player we're gonna be talking about on
Monday that we're not talking about right now.
Speaker 2 (32:54):
Okay, not quarterback or not quarterbacks, just skip the quarter
a Stewigi.
Speaker 1 (32:58):
Who's the player we're gonna be talking about on my
then we're not talking about right now.
Speaker 2 (33:01):
Mike Watson, beg Watson, Big Watson. That's Blake Watson running back.
Speaker 1 (33:06):
Yeah, he's been coming back off that Andrew look pretty
good out there.
Speaker 2 (33:09):
I know he's got a third gear too, Yeah he does.
Speaker 3 (33:11):
There's two guys for me, Greg Dosage, because we haven't
seen helps anywhile.
Speaker 2 (33:16):
With audric estimate. I'm really excited about what he said.
He doesn't have that third gear, but that second gear
is a powerful gear. Yes, but idreke, I think, barring
something crazy, he's he's on the squad. Well, yeah, he's.
Speaker 1 (33:30):
Watson makes the squad because I think you put him
on kick return and then you give him kind.
Speaker 2 (33:34):
Of the squad. Whoa, whoa, wait a minute running backs.
Speaker 3 (33:37):
If you're putting Blake Watson on this roster, what's happening
to Jeelil McLoughlin.
Speaker 1 (33:42):
He's on a rush. You and keep himour running backs? Okay, Atkins,
you keep as an h back. You punt on Burton
because you keep Akins can play has been and he's
been out there playing that H back. You put him
as an H back full back and.
Speaker 2 (33:51):
You give it hi nah Burton.
Speaker 3 (33:53):
I don't see it, and I don't see it that
that's a New Orleans Saints son Peyton guy that you're
kicking to the curve.
Speaker 2 (34:00):
I am no three person. I don't think he will.
I am you.
Speaker 1 (34:04):
I mean I guess you can skimp on receiver, okay,
because I'm trying to think where else you can skimp.
Speaker 2 (34:09):
You're gonna come up, you.
Speaker 1 (34:10):
Come up one short on the old line. I mean,
when we're doing there's roster math here. If you're gonna
keep four, you gotta come up. You gotta okay, in
my in.
Speaker 2 (34:17):
My in my career in the league.
Speaker 3 (34:19):
See, they always keep more offensive linemen, even though those
guys will play on Sunday when they even when they
dress right.
Speaker 2 (34:24):
And so that's what I'm saying. That's the one place
you can you skimp, I guess.
Speaker 3 (34:27):
Because when but when you do that, they take away
from the skilled players, which is always DB's.
Speaker 1 (34:31):
Always say like, if you're doing that, you put the
offensive lineman. You used to call use a practice squad,
call ups that. That's how you get around it. You
call up, you call up an extra body or too
off practe squad if you if you need them.
Speaker 3 (34:42):
See the offensive line once again, those guys are gonna
be in place because John Payton has already said that
he wants to be able to run the ball. I mean,
Drew Brees had a lot of success in the walls
because they were able to protect him up front.
Speaker 2 (34:56):
So they're gonna keep as many as they need to keep.
Maybe maybe you cut Hall of Fame Titan Lucas Croll.
Speaker 3 (35:02):
Nah, nobody believes that Lucas is great. But you're gonna
pull from either the DBS or the wide received.
Speaker 1 (35:14):
It's the thing because if you're keeping him, and I think,
like Trey Mohon, looks like a special team's player. Don't
look him as a corner, but he looks like a
special teams player. It looks like he could be on
kick returns. So you got to keep him, and you
are probably you have to. You put him on the
you could probably sneak him to.
Speaker 3 (35:28):
Practice, because what we're talking about is what we're talking about.
You cannot be a wat trick pony. No no, no, no, no,
not the way that things are now. And remember Russell's contract.
What would the Broncos have this year opposed to what
they don't. So with Raman, you need to prove that
you can be a corner.
Speaker 2 (35:45):
And that's the thing. He's a core special teamer. But
I don't know. If I don't know, we'll see, we'll
see how it checks out. Steve.
Speaker 1 (35:50):
We've got our first game coming up this weekend, guys.
Speaker 2 (35:52):
You guys looking forward to that.
Speaker 1 (35:53):
Obviously you can listen to it right here on KOA
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