10-10-24 Hour 2 of Broncos Country Tonight

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Live from the Great American Beer Fest down here downtown Denver.
At the convention said they got a band going on
down there that is quite loud.

Speaker 2 (00:09):
A marching man that is marching around. So if you
guys suddenly hear brass instantments.

Speaker 3 (00:13):
You know what's going on there.

Speaker 1 (00:14):
Thursday night football going on, Niners putting it to the
Seahawks right now. Five six six nine zero is the
text line. The three zero three says Rick, I love
you man.

Speaker 2 (00:23):
The only dree.

Speaker 1 (00:24):
The way to drink that skunky stuff is with the
line learned that high school in the seventies.

Speaker 2 (00:28):
Well, that's that's been a.

Speaker 1 (00:30):
Running bit about the Rick Corona the line thing for
quite a while. So hopefully nobodys think that too too seriously,
but that is that has been a running bit of
Rick for for quite some time.

Speaker 2 (00:40):
Five six there's a text time. You guys, got any questions, But.

Speaker 1 (00:43):
If you're out of here at the Great American Beer Fest,
you're driving on your way out right now.

Speaker 2 (00:46):
Come on by the ka wait to say hi.

Speaker 1 (00:47):
I'm get some some free beer cuzies for you, some
upper stickers, all that kind of stuff.

Speaker 4 (00:51):
Serously. The promotions department.

Speaker 2 (00:52):
Nick, we gotta gave against Chargers coming up.

Speaker 1 (00:54):
Here on Sunday, and I tell you, man, I'm w
Blake and Albright.

Speaker 2 (01:01):
My blankets suddenly dry. I'm optimistic.

Speaker 1 (01:04):
I'm not saying I'm believing, but I'm suddenly optimistic.

Speaker 2 (01:09):
I know the Broncos is get a win here.

Speaker 5 (01:12):
Okay, Well, well, what was it about your new revelation
that gave you that inside that the Broncos could possibly
win this one?

Speaker 2 (01:21):
Well, then think about it. Is that I was born
in Missouri and that is the show me state.

Speaker 1 (01:26):
I needed them to show me that they were capable
of getting some of these wins.

Speaker 2 (01:30):
In the first place, and they have over the last
couple weeks. They found ways to deal.

Speaker 1 (01:35):
Whether it was you know, I mean the Bucks game
was you know, I it was that was a different story.
The Jets game is really the one where I was like, Okay,
they're finding ways to not lose, you know, and you
have to you have to do that before you can
find ways to the way, you gotta find ways to lose.
And yes there is some luck involved there, the missed
field goal by zar Line and all that way.

Speaker 2 (01:55):
We missed the field goal as well.

Speaker 1 (01:58):
To me, you know, I just I see a team
that is on the cusp of figuring out how to win.
The entire offense isn't there yet. They've still got things
that they need to put together on the offensive side
of the ball to play a complete football.

Speaker 2 (02:13):
It's in complete, complimentary football, as it were.

Speaker 1 (02:16):
But they're playing good special teams, they're playing great defense,
and you know, it's if they can get the offense going,
If they can get the offense to a point where
where it is able to consistently score twenty one or
more points, all of a sudden, you're in every football game.

Speaker 5 (02:35):
Well yeah, I mean, that's kind of the idea that
you hope for, especially after seeing the Broncos first offensive
explosion of this year.

Speaker 4 (02:46):
But that's easier said than done, obviously, you know.

Speaker 5 (02:52):
Yeah, but Joey Bosa, who's been nursing an injury. The
bye week may help him get back into the fold.
But you still have to continue and with a good defense.
You got Bud Dupree, you have a Denzel Pairman at
the linebacker, resistant Satiet Samuel Junior at the corner position,
Durwin James, who's arguably one of the better cover safeties

(03:14):
and the player in the league now we will Durwan
James actually finished this game. We don't know because we
know how the league is kind of Kareem Jackson m
So that is something that you definitely have to look
at so that defense can actually get after you. Now

(03:36):
to the Broncos offensive lineman, with the injuries that they
have sustained, They've done a fantastic job protecting bow Knicks.
Only six sacks all season long, and when you look
at Herbert, even though he's nursing an ankle, seven sacks
at the offensive line have given up themselves. So this
is going to be one of those games that I'm
gonna say it's the defense.

Speaker 4 (03:57):
Whichever defense can.

Speaker 5 (03:59):
Get a sack, was fallible or like you saw last
week with PS two, uh pick six, that is what
changes the game.

Speaker 1 (04:08):
Well, was watching some stuff earlier and Nate Tice, the
son of you know, legendary NFL coach Mike Tice, as
uh he.

Speaker 2 (04:17):
Got on there was talking was talking about the the
secret that.

Speaker 1 (04:22):
To the the the Broncos defense has largely been the
fact that their trio of corners has played incredibly well
in man and then the advanced Joseph's ability to ability
to to blitz uh and and ability.

Speaker 2 (04:34):
To bring the heat the way that he has.

Speaker 1 (04:36):
As large appldicated on the fact that those three can
line up and be on an island and hold their
own I'm talking about patri tan Ja Kawi, McMillan, and
of course x Moss three sixty over there, Riley Moss.

Speaker 5 (04:46):
Oh, that's the one thing that changes things for you.
If you're a defensive coordinated it's personnel. That personnel dictates
what you can and can't do it, just like Minnie
Kiffen and those hey days of the Tampa Bay Buccaneers defense.
I mean they were great on both first and second
level of their defense. They played Cover two. They had
Dexter Jackson and John Lynch roaming twelve yards twelve fourteen yards.

Speaker 4 (05:10):
Back and they knew who they were.

Speaker 2 (05:13):
But if they couldn't have done that without a middle
linebacker that.

Speaker 1 (05:16):
Could get to the deep third, well, well you could
and blake Tampa two without an inside backer.

Speaker 2 (05:20):
They could do that, right.

Speaker 5 (05:21):
Derek Brooks was just amazing and he was very athletic guests,
But the Broncos they don't have linebackers that are like
Derek Brooks, and it's not a shot at the Denver Broncos.
Things are what they are and what we're seeing bands
do take what the players are capable of doing and
interweaving that into the fat break of the defense. But

(05:44):
it starts with being able to hold up outside with
PS two and x.

Speaker 4 (05:50):
Moss x Moss one. They'll keep changing it up on me,
but also Dakwan McMillan.

Speaker 5 (05:58):
That helps out a lot, and it helps the guys
up front be able to get home based on the
level of time and it takes from snap to getting
to the depth of the quarterback.

Speaker 1 (06:07):
Well, I think what you're trying to say there is
that with guys like PS two at X Moss three
sixty that you know you can Nintendo switch it up
if you have to.

Speaker 4 (06:15):
Well, yeah, you're gonna have to.

Speaker 5 (06:16):
Nintendo definitely switch this up if the Broncos are to
continue on this great trend that they're on. It's so
much so that here from some of the local media,
they starting to understand that they're starting to give validations
for others. They're a little slow to the party to
give validation not just to the players but the Vans Joseph,

(06:38):
but from a national standpoint, when you look at the.

Speaker 4 (06:41):
News and you read it and you listen to certain people.

Speaker 5 (06:44):
Now they're talking about the Broncos being one of the
hottest teams now. But the craziest thing is they're not
being one of the hottest teams because of the offense.
It's because the trend is the defense that I like
the trend that's happening right now.

Speaker 1 (06:58):
With the and they haven't had any you know, we've
seen guys running free, you know, but the pressure's got there.

Speaker 2 (07:03):
We just you know, they haven't really had much busted plays.
The bust player came in the run game. Really you'd
have the one play with Bowers where they got away
with that.

Speaker 1 (07:10):
They might start to see vance Joseph maybe maybe Sugar
in some things, making it look like they're going to
be back on the island, making it look like they're
bringing that kind of pressure.

Speaker 2 (07:18):
And then starting to drop guys back, you know.

Speaker 1 (07:20):
And I'm wondering if we're gonna see maybe a reversion
on against the Chargers where they kind of, you know,
they're looking like they're bringing all this pressure, but the
reality is they're sort of sort of stepping back and
waiting for you to make a play, waiting for them,
you know, getting the secondary to be able to make
a play on the ball because they've they've shown so
much pressure early.

Speaker 2 (07:39):
Now you can kind of drop back at times.

Speaker 5 (07:41):
So for me watching what the Broncos are doing now defensively,
it takes me back to my time being here as
a member of the different Broncos and being part of
that five o six defense and Larry Corrier was the man,
he was the programmer at that time, and it takes
me back to a game when we play the Philadelphia
Eagles and Donovan nab was there and Terrell Orange's and

(08:03):
wide receiver. Man, it seemed like for like thirteen plays
in a row, we've pitched him. He had no idea
what was happening, and we were watching the Broncos defense
kind of get into that show. Look, it was something
that we did too. Eventually in that game we started
showing the same pressure, but we would drop out. But
he was confused as to what side the pressure was

(08:25):
coming from, what side the guys were dropping from, and
it created a lot of confusion that sped up his
clock as far as getting the ball out, And there
was a lot of disruption with the offense.

Speaker 4 (08:34):
And that's what I'm seeing with the Broncos defense right now.
And in order to run pressures like that, there's a
couple of things then you have to have in place.

Speaker 5 (08:42):
You gotta have guys on the outside who can hold up,
but you gotta have guys who understand what you're trying
to do to the opposing offense.

Speaker 1 (08:49):
Talk a lot about the defense, let's talk a little
bit about the offense here as well.

Speaker 2 (08:54):
What are they gonna have to do? Because you're up
against a good defense too.

Speaker 1 (08:56):
The Chargers defense is very very good, maybe underat in
how good that they are.

Speaker 2 (09:01):
What is this offense going to have to do to
be able to solve that defense?

Speaker 5 (09:05):
We'll allow Bo to play Bow's games, right, don't try
to paint him into a box and say, okay, well,
but what I mean by that restrictions of some sort
saying okay, well, here's what we want you to do,
like specializing. And this one thing and a great thing
that I love about watching Bow play is you know,
he doesn't have to specialize in one particular thing. He

(09:27):
can show you that he has a gambit of skills
that you're going to me not just in the game
against the Charges on Sunday, but moving forward, if the
offense is to have another offensive exposure like they had
on Sunday.

Speaker 1 (09:40):
Yeah, this defense, for those of you who have watched
the Chargers the last few years, this defense attacks a
lot more than they used to, and they had Brandon
Stanley there was largely reactive kind of running a variant
of what Vic Fangio runs. You know, you have the
tight front, you have the quarters match on the back end.
This defense likes to get after you. They do like
to send people, They do like to to blitz you.

(10:00):
They do like the pressure you. It is more predicate
you on getting pressure in the back end holding up
than it is on the back end holding up for
the pressure to get there.

Speaker 2 (10:07):
Like mix defense.

Speaker 5 (10:08):
Well, here's a great thing about knowing your opponent, and
I'm glad you've missed that. As far as having a
defense like that likes to be aggressive, at some point
you have to now use that team's strength as a
weakness to attack them. Because we know Darren James is
gonna come down, He's gonna cover, and the Broncos have
yet to utilize their tight ends an effective way.

Speaker 4 (10:29):
This would be the game to do that, because if
you don't, you're.

Speaker 5 (10:32):
Gonna have Durren James lurking in or around the line
of scrimmage, and he's gonna make running the ball not
as effective as it was last week. So you're gonna
have to Now the corners is Anti samu Ju your
hell of a corner, just like his dad. And what
I mean by that, he's just like his father. If
you want to run double wounds on him, they are there,
but we haven't really seen the Broncos really take advantage

(10:55):
of that to even run it to make the opposing
defense think about it?

Speaker 2 (10:58):
Is this the our father corners? And so are we
revenge of games?

Speaker 4 (11:03):
You talk about PS two and.

Speaker 2 (11:05):
His dad and Samuel Sadi Samuel h No, it's.

Speaker 4 (11:09):
Not that, but you know, some going to look at
it that way. And if you're.

Speaker 5 (11:14):
Either guy PS two is South Samuel Junior, you can't
help but think about what your fathers did before you
uh in a league. But if you want to start
that conversation, ideas doing what you need to do on
that given play, and both guys have definitely excelled well obviously,
you know, looking at what PS two has done in
his career, he's a notch above the dad of Asti

(11:37):
Samuel junior, but knowing the claw that he sement vi
Juias come from, he wants to.

Speaker 4 (11:43):
Come in and he wants to make plays.

Speaker 5 (11:45):
And the idea is that you don't want to give
the charge of defenders guys in the secretary any momentum
to build any kind of confidence.

Speaker 1 (11:52):
Yeah, you know, and it's it's gonna be it's gonna
be fascinating.

Speaker 2 (11:55):
You look at what the Broncos want to do on that.
You mentioned the tight end. We benched right Nelsic this
past week.

Speaker 1 (12:01):
He's a healthy scratch and it wasn't like the tight
end room was getting a ton of production anyway with
Trout and Crowl and Atkins or whatever. How are we
going to harness these tight ends to maximize productivity here?

Speaker 5 (12:14):
Well, the Broncos have someone sitting on their practice squad
who is quite familiar with the personnel.

Speaker 4 (12:22):
Now, he may not be as.

Speaker 5 (12:23):
Familiar with coach Harbar as a coach because it's been
training camp with the team, but Donald parm he's been there,
so he knows how to attack different guys. For me,
this will be an excellent opportunity to just kind of
dust him off and let him get out there see
what he can do, and I'm sure because he's been
sitting on the chef for a bit he wants to

(12:44):
have a little get back against his former team.

Speaker 2 (12:46):
Well that's what's gonna say.

Speaker 1 (12:47):
I mean, you gotta figure this is a get back
against your former team.

Speaker 2 (12:49):
This is the game. If you're gonna roll the game,
You're gonna roll Donald parm out. This is the game
You're roll him out.

Speaker 1 (12:53):
You know, you get the chance to go up against
the team to cut you loose and get the opportunity
to say, hey, you've made a mista.

Speaker 2 (13:00):
You know, we've seen how that's worked out for the players.

Speaker 1 (13:01):
Tim Patrick used to have that if yes at Fire
when it came to the forty nine Ers. I've certainly
seen those those types of games before. Melvin Gordon you
certainly had the chip on his shoulder against the Chargers.
So I'm looking forward to to that. As far as
going I think the key for me in this one
is at Broncos defensive line can't get blown off the ball.

Speaker 4 (13:17):
JK.

Speaker 1 (13:17):
Dobbins is averaging absurd six point one yards per carry.
That is absurd right now as a running back, and
he's the only piece on that offense that is consistently
working well.

Speaker 4 (13:28):
I mean, think about coach Harbaugh and being in Michigan.

Speaker 5 (13:31):
That was the one thing that helped him go to
undefeated season and help him win. And Natty was being
able to run the ball at that time. Blake Korum
was dot in the eye for him. But I mean,
he's got some running backs back there, like Gus etw was.

Speaker 4 (13:45):
Both he and JK.

Speaker 5 (13:46):
Dobbins been some time with the Baltimore Ravens and you
know they're all about down here running. So the Raiders
had a little success in the game on Sunday, and
I'm sure the Chargers are gonna look at that film
and they gotta find ways to maybe split things for
the Broncos defense interior.

Speaker 4 (14:03):
From that standpoint, but if J. K.

Speaker 5 (14:05):
Dobbins is in the game, the first thing I'm thinking,
if I'm a linebacker, I'm thinking about Dobbins beating me outside.

Speaker 2 (14:11):
Yeah, And that's that's the thing.

Speaker 4 (14:12):
I mean.

Speaker 1 (14:13):
Edwards has gotten carries, hasn't been nearly as productive Dobbins has.
They got a Hassan Haskins as well, who played for
Hornball at Michigan, has gotten a few carries and he
figures to factor it as well, the thing about the charges,
you can't.

Speaker 2 (14:25):
Let him blow you off the ball early. You know,
you can't let him get that pin poll stuff and
blow you off the ball earlier. You gotta find ways
to solve that that early.

Speaker 1 (14:32):
Get them playing from behind, because if they're playing from
from from even or not in front, they're gonna run.

Speaker 2 (14:37):
The ball, They're gonna run down your throat. You've got
to get them behind.

Speaker 1 (14:39):
On the game script, you have to have them throwing
because that pass the game is just not geled yet.

Speaker 2 (14:45):
Craig Roman used to design plays for Lamar Jackson. Now
he's trying to design it for Justin Herbert.

Speaker 1 (14:49):
Herbert is the more accomplished passer, but they seem not
to have figured that out yet.

Speaker 5 (14:53):
Well, once the game, think about the quarterbacks that you know,
Greg Roman.

Speaker 1 (14:56):
His coast is Tom Kapperdick Thron, Taylor, Josh Johnson, Alex.

Speaker 5 (15:01):
Smith Smith and then once again, all of those guys
are mobile quarterbacks. Now Herbert is a mobile quarterback, but
once again they're not deploying him in that particular way.

Speaker 4 (15:14):
And here's the other thing. You know, he has a
lower leg injury, so that is hindering things as well.
And once again.

Speaker 5 (15:20):
If the Broncos are able to shut down the run
game for the Chargers and force them to pass, that's
a position that the Chargers don't want to be in
because their franchise quarterback they invested so much money in
and they and you know, he is the guy of
the future. He can't really run right now, right so
it's like he's in the potato sack race when one

(15:41):
leg in the sack and the other leg out.

Speaker 4 (15:44):
So the idea is put them on their heels.

Speaker 5 (15:46):
Let Jonah Ellis, Nick Benito, Jonathan Cooper, let those guys
get after Herbert and just try to get him the
exist stage left.

Speaker 2 (15:55):
Zach Allen as well, Yeah, we've got to. But that's
just the thing. I think if you could shut.

Speaker 1 (15:59):
The run down or get a little bit of a
lead and play from out in front, that you could
cruise to victory. Artists, when we come back, get a
little more into this Broncos Chargers game, talking with people
from Chilli Cider Broncos Country Night Live from the Great
American Beer Fest out here at the Convention Center down
South Denver.

Speaker 2 (16:15):
We'll be back after this.

Speaker 1 (16:17):
Live from the Great American Beer Fest downtown at the
convention center.

Speaker 2 (16:23):
We're having a blast. Yeah, that's right, we're having a
blast down here.

Speaker 1 (16:26):
Come, I say hi to us, Get some bumper stickers,
some beer coosies make fun of me for not looking
like a professional athlete, while Nick DULs looked like a
play The guy from Chilling Sider's gonna be with this
cent event instantly picked out who was the former nfler
and who definitely was not.

Speaker 5 (16:41):
Well.

Speaker 4 (16:42):
I don't even know how to respond to that.

Speaker 2 (16:45):
Because I took one look at both. By the way,
that is a sweet, sweet mullet. He's got to see. Yeah,
he took one look at us, and he's just looking
at Nick and he's like, I'm gonna guess you're the
former NFL player. And I'm like, what gave it away?
You know it was at the uh was it all
five five ten beer?

Speaker 5 (17:00):
You know?

Speaker 2 (17:01):
Whatever is going on here? But it was No.

Speaker 1 (17:04):
He's he's gonna gonna bring some samples back in the
chance talking about shilly Sider.

Speaker 4 (17:07):
Folks.

Speaker 5 (17:07):
You know, we should have done We should have shot
him and we should have just told him.

Speaker 4 (17:12):
We should have.

Speaker 2 (17:12):
Played it off like it was me.

Speaker 1 (17:13):
We should have played it off like it was me.
We have people like right now, swing it up. Look
he's got the cheese sticks hanging down, he's got the
pretzels hanging out, the beefs thing.

Speaker 2 (17:24):
Look at this snack Nicholas. I'll be hey, hats off, sir. Yeah,
gotta keep it going, Gotta gotta keep the uh, gotta
keep him metabolism going.

Speaker 4 (17:33):
This is the guy who is a veteran.

Speaker 2 (17:35):
This is a this is a beer better veteran right here.

Speaker 1 (17:38):
That's a yeah, sixteen years, sixteen years.

Speaker 2 (17:41):
Look at this.

Speaker 1 (17:42):
Yeah, see that's what that's the guy that's the kind
of pro tip.

Speaker 2 (17:45):
Stuff that we need to we need to be on
these guys of things. Five six six guys.

Speaker 1 (17:49):
I've got the the shilling Sider people gonna join us
here in in just a minute.

Speaker 2 (17:54):
Looking forward to that. We got the uh, we got
the the beer fit in Texas. We had some Texas
brewing people showing up here for just a second. Yeah,
bringing it bringing it here. Look at this.

Speaker 5 (18:06):
Yeah, hey, well but these guys don't have o cheese.

Speaker 2 (18:10):
They don't.

Speaker 1 (18:10):
They had like a charcoterie board around his neck as
he was rolling.

Speaker 2 (18:15):
Was like, my hats off to you, sir.

Speaker 1 (18:18):
Just yeah, just they go, you know, the first time
or seeing this is what it is. These guys are wait,
waiting the first time. He's a sixteen year veteran. These
guys are first time.

Speaker 4 (18:26):
That's that's okay. So they don't have to depress his
little cheese sticks and the flimjams.

Speaker 2 (18:30):
So they do have a T shirt.

Speaker 4 (18:31):
They got T shirt.

Speaker 5 (18:31):
Well, look they had they had the drinking glasses conveniently
around their necks.

Speaker 2 (18:37):
Yeah, ready to go, Ready to go.

Speaker 1 (18:39):
Yeah, I don't have a face for radio.

Speaker 2 (18:44):
I have a voice for newspaper. So it's you know,
I mean, somehow they still they still keep being employed
here as we uh, they got a function of the brewery.
People gather around here.

Speaker 1 (18:54):
They had a band going a minute ago to a
marching band rolling through here.

Speaker 2 (18:58):
Of all things. So that was that kind the last day. Quiet.
Now it feels like we're in the eye of the
hurricane a little bit. Now they're realizing that we're live
on the air. Yes, they're literally.

Speaker 1 (19:08):
Live talking about being a beer fest virgin.

Speaker 2 (19:10):
Yes, as they figure out that we were ve got.

Speaker 1 (19:14):
The Chilling Sider people showing up here. In just a second,
we're gonna get a chance to talk to them. By
some of their new offerings. He's bringing some samplespot. That
guy had, I mean, that guy had the sweetest mullet
I've ever seen. Well said, it's gotta grazuy ter. That
guy had the sweetest mullet I've ever seen.

Speaker 2 (19:28):
I'm just saying.

Speaker 4 (19:29):
And he had a color too.

Speaker 2 (19:31):
Yeah, yes, it was feathered out. It was business in
the front, but there was definitely a party in the back.
And you know what I respected in this economy.

Speaker 5 (19:39):
Well, consider the fact that the you know, the beer
fest colors are like orange and like blue.

Speaker 4 (19:45):
His hair seemed to mess the core.

Speaker 2 (19:48):
That is the sweetest mullet I've ever seen.

Speaker 4 (19:50):
Look at this.

Speaker 1 (19:51):
Yes, the feather lethal. It is absolute. It is yes,
it is absolutely. It is absolutely phenomenal. We're gonna get him,
get him in here real quick.

Speaker 2 (20:00):
The Shilling signed, go ahead and put on uh put
on that head. Said right there we go. Look at this.
We got a bunch of bunch of signers here. We
do this all right.

Speaker 1 (20:08):
First of all, introduce yourself with the people you're liable
to here right now, we're on okay away, you're lying
for the Shilling signer.

Speaker 2 (20:13):
And this is Colline Shilling. Yeah, fall show himself save
the name I tried to do. I try to put
my name on things nobody wants to I.

Speaker 1 (20:21):
Uh, he instantly picked out which one of us was
a former NFL.

Speaker 2 (20:24):
We thought about trying to mess with you a little bit,
but uh, you.

Speaker 1 (20:26):
Know, ultimately we realized we're never gonna get away with that.

Speaker 2 (20:28):
I'm with this physique, right, Your physique's not that bad.
It's Cincinnati six.

Speaker 4 (20:32):
It's a lot.

Speaker 2 (20:33):
I love it.

Speaker 1 (20:34):
You got the you got the righteous mullet going on, brother,
and I respected in this economy where you give me.

Speaker 2 (20:38):
Business at the front and business in the back.

Speaker 3 (20:39):
Of these days, Hey, you can't leave the party. We're
now called festival after all. So you want to hear
the quick story of them all? Yes, So my wife
bet me I couldn't rock them all out for four years,
and I won that bat last month. So now she
shows me a trip to Australia. It's in for the
world's largest mullet competition.

Speaker 5 (20:53):
You know what.

Speaker 2 (20:54):
True story.

Speaker 1 (20:55):
But we're able to well just well you could it
stops growing over her.

Speaker 2 (20:59):
So we all saw the bad haircut I had.

Speaker 1 (21:01):
Yeah, nobody wants me to bring that one bad And
I had a really bad haircut.

Speaker 2 (21:05):
It looked like something from nineteen forties Germany. Nobody, nobody
wants that. I tried to shade into the sleet and
he was a bad look. I had to make sure
I didn't get a dirk on the upper lidt it
was real bad. Yeah, so she'll excited.

Speaker 1 (21:15):
Tell us a little bit about the history, how you
guys started this thing off and and where you are now,
and then I want to get to some of the
delicious flavors that looks like you have here.

Speaker 2 (21:22):
Yeah, totally.

Speaker 5 (21:23):
So.

Speaker 3 (21:23):
I grew up in rural Idaho. My parents were making
ciders since the seventies, you know, just small scale stuff.

Speaker 1 (21:28):
They and they were first time they were first generation cider.

Speaker 2 (21:31):
Makers or they I this is the league thing.

Speaker 3 (21:34):
I'm talking a hobby right, like, you know, we're pretty
It was pretty hippy dippy way on the country. Grew
a lout of our own food, that kind of stuff.
You know, we're talking ten twenty gallons a year kind
of thing. But for me it would always been a passion.
I made it since I was, you know, too young
to admit and uh, you know, I went off to
high school college was making it. My doormorm in college
and got my MBA, went to work in the real world.
Worked with Microsoft for five and a half months out

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of grad school. I was like, nope, can't do that.
Love Microsoft, nothing against them. I just wanted to do
my own thing. And you know, alcohol called me and
here we are.

Speaker 1 (22:03):
It sounds you're really similar to my story, except without
the without winding up bicking.

Speaker 2 (22:07):
I was at the it world. I did government. I
was in the army for a while. Then I do yeah,
and I do government it work, and I always like
I hate this, I really hate this. So yeah, so
you out here at you got a bunch of flavors.

Speaker 5 (22:18):
Year.

Speaker 2 (22:18):
What did you guys start off with was who was
a shilly side? What was the starting point there? Then
how did you branch out?

Speaker 3 (22:23):
So yeah, So the early days for us, it was
a it was a couple of innovations that were super
important to us. One was sustainability. So we were the
first sider in the West Coast to use cans. Obviously,
all craft beverages are in cans now, but back in
the day it was a lot of glass and you know,
cans are a more sustainable way to package it. And
then it was all about innovation. So kind of pushing
the boundaries doing new things. You know, we're here at
GABF and a whole bunch of brewers really paved the

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way for that experimental you know, you go back fifty
years and it was three light loggers, and now it's
you know, look at this festival, look at the amazing
things people have brought. So we took a lot of
inspiration for that. So some of our early siders, we
were the innovators on fruited siders. This year, the Excelsior
is actually the first Imperial style sider in a can.
It's really awesible. Definitely taste it here in a minute.
But it is infused with heirloom cider apples that we

(23:05):
bring over from France and then the rest of it
is fresh press Washington apples. So it's got a really
unique flavor. It's got high tannins, which you don't often
see in American style siders. You know, this one wins
a lot of competitions, even with you know, people that
are doing twenty thirty dollars bottles, and you can pick
this up pretty much anywhere good alcohol is sold in
Colorado and beyond.

Speaker 1 (23:22):
That's so I was going to ask you, is this
is Colorado available? Because we've been come to this for
a few years and these guys will so there then
you can't get it here. And I'm like, okay, you guys,
saw do you say the stores and stuff?

Speaker 2 (23:33):
Can you do direct through the website or any of
that or we don't do that.

Speaker 3 (23:36):
You know, we like to support our retailers and distributors,
but you can find this anywhere alcohol sold in Colorado.
You know, we're one of the larger ones now, but
we take that responsibility seriously. We're, you know, very good
stewards are our people. Culture is huge for us, Sustainabilities
huge for us, and we feel like we have a
really unique opportunity to kind of show a different way
of doing business that's important to us.

Speaker 4 (23:54):
So you have four different cants here, Yeah, but what goes.

Speaker 5 (23:57):
Into the process of determining what.

Speaker 4 (24:00):
The mixture is going to be in the boot? Yeah?

Speaker 3 (24:03):
We have a super awesome R and D team And
actually back in the day that was me and now
we got people way smarter with way better palets than
I've got, So I still get to taste it and
sign off, but there's we have an amazing team who's
truly phenomenal. But you know, we got our straight apple.
So this one is just like a traditional style sider.
Like I said, it's got the heirloom fruit in there
as well, all poor sum so you can see it's
got a beautiful color. So those special sight or unique

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apples that we put in there give it a really
dark kind of gold color.

Speaker 2 (24:25):
It looks like a little bit like apple juice coming out.

Speaker 3 (24:27):
Yeah, totally got a really nice flavor, semi sweet on
this one. But we're also known for our innovation. So
moonberries here and we look at the branding that y'all
can't see this, but it's literally unicorn eating berries sitting
on the moon.

Speaker 1 (24:38):
With a grimsh purple type of can't dock at the mulls.

Speaker 3 (24:43):
It was it inspired by, Hey, I don't know, I
don't know what.

Speaker 2 (24:46):
You're too humble, So that is definitely that is I'm
episolutely all on it.

Speaker 3 (24:49):
Yeah, the mall is based on my mod.

Speaker 2 (24:51):
There we go. All right, So this one's super.

Speaker 3 (24:53):
Fun, you know, lower ABV but very fruit forward, still sessionable.
People love fruited stuff as well. I mean you see
now that the beer trends, well, you seeing that in
basically any beverage trends right now. This one's also really cool.
It's a collaboration with a Portland, Oregon based tea company,
so it's our chider. So it's a chai infused cider,
so no fruit in this one, but it's basically like
you're drinking fall in a can downstairs here at Paired.

(25:15):
We're doing this with a spiced baccle Bah Paired and
it's incredible shifted and we're going up for.

Speaker 2 (25:20):
This yea, yeah, yeah yeah.

Speaker 3 (25:22):
Super good food down there, so soaked on that. And
then this one is our all new This is our
hard lemonade. So this is a bit of a departure
from the ciders. But we said, you know, a lot
of folks these days, kind of the newer twenty one
year olds, are looking for something a little less traditional,
gravitating towards things that are full flavor. And this is
really cool because it's actually full fruit fermentation. So a
lot of the hard lemonades and other things out there

(25:43):
and you know, maybe a little bit less crafty, this
is all as crafty as our cider products, so very
high in products, a lot of fresh fruit in this.

Speaker 5 (25:51):
This one here is different because my wife drinks a
lot of Chai.

Speaker 4 (25:55):
Team. I would have never thought to create a hole.

Speaker 2 (26:00):
With the I wouldn't have either.

Speaker 3 (26:02):
I'm gonna try this apple right now, poor porlt on
here and just smell it. You don't even he can.

Speaker 2 (26:06):
Smell the apple in this hold. Smell the apple that.

Speaker 3 (26:10):
I mean, there's so much cinnamon, cardamom, nutmeg, There's just
some incredible flavor in there.

Speaker 2 (26:14):
And you don't drink it.

Speaker 3 (26:15):
Just like smell on that.

Speaker 2 (26:16):
This sounds like drinking apple juice. Yeah, like drinking apple
or it was like the big Martinelli's apple juice. Great
apple juice.

Speaker 4 (26:26):
That's the same kind of does it looks it looks Yes.

Speaker 3 (26:29):
It is eight point four percent, so it may not
have the same effect as regular apple juice. Yeah, I
like that effect.

Speaker 2 (26:34):
Better effect, So, in my opinion, better effect the idea
of putting.

Speaker 3 (26:37):
Would you said, nutmeg, cardamom, cinnamon, all spice. I mean,
this is a bunch of incredible flavors. It's even a
little black pepper here because a little spicy bite.

Speaker 2 (26:44):
It's super fun.

Speaker 4 (26:46):
It sounds very kind of polish.

Speaker 2 (26:48):
Yeah, that's what you're saying about. It's a seasonal for us,
So yeah, it does.

Speaker 3 (26:53):
And then there's lemonade. Pink lemonade is super good.

Speaker 2 (26:56):
Look at the color. It looks like pink lemonade.

Speaker 3 (26:58):
Yeah, and it's it's made for fruit, you know. So
a lot of lemonades it's like a sugar fermentation thing.
This is a whole fruit fermentation.

Speaker 2 (27:04):
So is this the same, the alcohol content the same?
Across the border?

Speaker 3 (27:07):
Very all over their place. You know. We got the
ones that are eight point four, Moonberrys is five point two,
and then the seasonals are usually high sixes. This one
six and a half. But they bounce around a little
bit based on the fermentation, based on the apples, based
on the ingredients. So again, great craft driven, much like
a lot of the great craft years.

Speaker 2 (27:22):
Here, what is your personal favorite? Oh your line?

Speaker 3 (27:25):
You know, honestly it changes. The Moonberrys is probably my
personal favorite, right.

Speaker 2 (27:29):
Know, you know how you have to with them all
hit Yeah, yeah, I.

Speaker 3 (27:31):
Mean it's kind of my character, right. But the most
popular sales wise are the imperials. But like, I'm a
professional drinker, right, I can't drink eight point four percent
all day, every day, but five point two, you know, yeah,
that's a sessionable sider.

Speaker 5 (27:44):
Here's what I'm noticing and noticing the shirt that he
has on matches the Imperial pin eliminade.

Speaker 2 (27:50):
It does he literally has the pink limonade shirting.

Speaker 5 (27:54):
Yes, So once again, here's the biggest thing that I
understand about the cans that I'm looking at. I mean,
you go to the school, you see different brands, but
this brand would be one that kind of jumps out
because visually it's kind of stunned with that part.

Speaker 4 (28:07):
Of the creativity and creating these cans.

Speaker 3 (28:10):
Yeah, you're spot on on that. I mean alcohol at
the end of the day, we're bringing joy, right, We're
bringing fun. You've got to bring the energy. Like the
brand should embody the experience that you're having, Like what's
the need state, what's the occasion? You know, And we
like to bring joy to life's everyday moments, right, that's
what we're all about. So the brand should be super
fun and it should be, you know, something that speaks
to the buyer and speaks to the consumer for it
and should be every bit as awesome as the liquid

(28:31):
it's inside.

Speaker 4 (28:31):
All right, So here's a question. I'm going to give
you two events and you tell me what's would be.

Speaker 3 (28:36):
Oh, we're doing a pairing.

Speaker 2 (28:37):
I love it right here.

Speaker 5 (28:39):
Yeah, so let's just say it was Thanksgiving dinner, right yeah.

Speaker 2 (28:45):
I'm like twenty people over yep, what's what are you
going with?

Speaker 4 (28:48):
Oh?

Speaker 3 (28:48):
I'm doing the chider for sure, okay. And then we
also have an Imperial baked apple, so most of those
will go really well. And if you like to do ham,
you can actually braise it in that cider and it
really gives it that kind of spice. Note if you
do like a spiral hand a little side are brazing
on there?

Speaker 2 (29:00):
Incredible?

Speaker 4 (29:01):
Okay, So now Christmas Eve dinner, look at where are
we going?

Speaker 3 (29:06):
How much family we got?

Speaker 4 (29:08):
Listen?

Speaker 3 (29:08):
How drunk do I need to get.

Speaker 2 (29:11):
With my family? Any one of them shows up?

Speaker 4 (29:15):
Well, this is saying you got about a small intimate okay.

Speaker 3 (29:19):
People, okay, tip people, but nine of them are family,
nine of them okay, yes, So I'm doing the imperials
all of them. And then on top of that, downstairs,
we got a palmo, which is cider that's been distilled
into brandy proof back down with apple juice and then
barrel ad for five years. So it's kind of like
a like a like a very sweet and kind of
approtee feed brand. It's incredible, so I do that. It's

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also twenty percent alcohol.

Speaker 2 (29:42):
Listen, Oh my god, you're trying to get me like
a camera.

Speaker 3 (29:45):
Yeah, I mean it's my Christmas not right. Yeah, you're
driving anywhere.

Speaker 2 (29:49):
I'm hanging out all night.

Speaker 4 (29:51):
O god.

Speaker 2 (29:52):
Yeah, we're talking again with shil excenters. It's s C
H I L Ali and she sil excenters. When you
buy these, when you're gonna go to the.

Speaker 1 (29:59):
Store to look at you know, obviously we've got the
individual cancer from Yeah, how do you produce it?

Speaker 2 (30:03):
A thirty pack pack? What do you six packs?

Speaker 3 (30:05):
For the most part, we do variety, twelve pack. We
do some twelve packs of the Excelsior and Perial Apple
as well. But yeah, look forward to kind of the
cider space or the craft beer space in any store,
you know, convenience store, a lot of bars. House on
Top now in Colorado as well, and you'll find us
basically anywhere on the West coast, you know, Colorado West.

Speaker 4 (30:22):
Do you guys do.

Speaker 2 (30:23):
Tours at all? Like if people come out, do you
do tours as the facility or so?

Speaker 3 (30:27):
We have two cider bars actually, one in Portland, one
in Seattle. And the cool thing about that is, again,
like craft beer, we wouldn't really want to bring up
the whole industry, so we serve majority guest tabs of ciders,
so you can come to our locations and try flights
of all different kinds of siders. And then this month, too,
is actually National Cider Month, so it's a program that's
a really cherished tradition in the sider world. So it's
over one hundred and twenty sideries participating this year during October,

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which is harvest season for us generally, So there's all
sorts of events at bars, there's extra special siders in
grocery stores, places like that, and you go to Nationalsider
Month dot com to check out more things that are
going on there as well.

Speaker 5 (31:00):
I'm still taking it back by the designs on the
game pretty okay, because not to out any warm but okay,
so we're.

Speaker 1 (31:11):
Not gonna say what brand this is, but this is
a very we'll call this kind of the label looks
a little cheaper, right, right.

Speaker 5 (31:17):
So so you look at that label and you look
at yours, your label.

Speaker 4 (31:22):
And I'm not saying this because you're sitting in a
front of us, but it looks a little more invited. Yeah,
we're more inciting. It's almost like the kid is saying, hey,
it's festive taste me right.

Speaker 3 (31:34):
Well, I do think that we make the best liquid
insider for sure. But a consumer looking at what two
hundred choices when they go to the beer insider aile,
you got three seconds to capture it. So not only
are the designs important, but the color choice is super important.
And our design team and marketing team does an amazing job,
and we spend a ton of time getting the colors
just earlier.

Speaker 2 (31:51):
It's funny, as you mentioned it, because I was.

Speaker 1 (31:52):
Watching I Go down the rabbit Hole of these documentaries,
said I try to get to sleep, and it really it's.

Speaker 2 (31:56):
Like color theory on.

Speaker 1 (31:59):
Try to catch your eye and make it pop while
you're sitting there on the aisle, you know, looking at
your choices.

Speaker 3 (32:04):
It really is.

Speaker 1 (32:04):
I've been joining this, this leimonade mirror now how the
Apple one I tried first?

Speaker 2 (32:09):
Also, I'm gonna gonna come back for you ever I
can live for you. I uh, which in the order?
What is the newest one.

Speaker 1 (32:16):
You're rolling out here?

Speaker 3 (32:17):
The one you're drinking? Actually so, but the hard lemonades
are a new family for us this year, and you know,
really that's going after this kind of beyond beer space,
and a lot of consumers are interested in that. In
these days, cider is amazing. It's also very crafty, and
so this is kind of bridging that gap between someone
who may not be as verse an alcohol in general
and kind of the nerdiness of it all. But it's
a truly phenomenal craft product and so we're really proud

(32:38):
of that. We got some new ones that these coming
out in the spring as well, some more flavors and
there's gonna be a variety back.

Speaker 2 (32:42):
Of that as well.

Speaker 1 (32:43):
I love it many Look, I appreciate you taking a
little time, thanks for having me talk to.

Speaker 2 (32:47):
You about the So yeah, that's a terrible haircut. I
head right there. I was talking about nobody nobody wants that.

Speaker 3 (32:52):
Alright, that's not great. It's not going to all agree
with you.

Speaker 2 (32:54):
It was awful haircut.

Speaker 1 (32:55):
It was nobody wants that, um bro the bullet up
bigging it above in the load of the I'm just
so far appreciate you taking some time out to come
join us shilling as shilling.

Speaker 2 (33:04):
Ciders s C H I L L I G. You
can get into to local.

Speaker 1 (33:08):
Brochures or at the you know, the liquor stores wherever
it is. Rocos Country today, Benjamin all Bright, Nick Ferguson,
mister shilling himself here, we gotta run.

Speaker 2 (33:16):
Thank you, Shed and Scott, Thank you.

Speaker 1 (33:17):
Grant Smith back at the station most front time text
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Speaker 2 (33:21):
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