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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Well them do it Broncos Country tonight. But with all
bright Dick Ferguson, Grant Smith, shout out to the Great
American Beer Fest for having us out last night. Had
a pretty good time out there. Got to see some
fantastic mullets.

Speaker 2 (00:11):
Well it looked like you had a pretty good time.

Speaker 3 (00:14):
I don't know what you're talking about, sir, I'm just.

Speaker 4 (00:16):
Saying it looked like also those in attendance.

Speaker 3 (00:19):
Yes, had I had a great time, Yes I did.
There was there so many.

Speaker 2 (00:24):
People walking by with what I call the Benjamin Alright special.

Speaker 3 (00:30):
But would you would you.

Speaker 4 (00:31):
Care to explain that?

Speaker 2 (00:31):
Were you talking about food on the next No, That's
not what I'm talking about. I'm talking about the elaborate
upwards jackets.

Speaker 1 (00:40):
There were silver sequins. Somebody had a magenta and black
tuxedo jacket. There were costumes out. We had some nuns.
We had the Ghostbusters. We well technically they.

Speaker 4 (00:50):
Were not none.

Speaker 1 (00:51):
They were male nuns. I guess I don't know, but
they weren't fathers. They were in nut guard, but they
were dude. We had We had some people that we
still haven't confirmed whether.

Speaker 3 (00:58):
They were police or not. Nick Nick challenged them and
they're like, yeah, word in costing. I'm like, don't pull
that taser up.

Speaker 4 (01:04):
Wait, don't say that. I challenge them.

Speaker 1 (01:06):
That makes it if you're a real cop, you won't
taste bed in the face.

Speaker 5 (01:10):
And uh.

Speaker 3 (01:10):
And at that point I was like, you guys need
to move on beach.

Speaker 4 (01:13):
He did kind of peer around and gave it kind
of wink.

Speaker 2 (01:17):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:17):
He was like yes, so he didn't it's more than
this to tase you.

Speaker 3 (01:22):
Right, Well, he doesn't want to taste it. I want to.

Speaker 1 (01:24):
I see my face in the mirror every morning and
I want to taste me. I have a very punishable face.

Speaker 3 (01:28):
I told you.

Speaker 4 (01:28):
That's not a good thing. I'm just did you see
your own face?

Speaker 1 (01:32):
I look in the mirror and I'm like, I did
that guy, I'm punch right this argant face.

Speaker 5 (01:36):
What's the lies that from step brothers? Some not your
face just makes me want to punch it. That's how
much people feel about bad I look.

Speaker 1 (01:43):
In the mirror every morning, I like, I would totally
kick that guy's good self censor.

Speaker 2 (01:48):
And that's different when someone else says it to you.
But when you wake up in the morning and you
look in the mirror and you say it to yourself.

Speaker 3 (01:56):
That's different. Yeah, you gotta be talking positive to yourself.

Speaker 5 (01:59):
But maybe after Ben had all those Shilling siders last night,
he was just like, man, I might need to punch
myself in the face to wake up from this hangover.

Speaker 3 (02:06):
They were delicious.

Speaker 4 (02:07):
I'm not gonna lie. They were delicious, full of disclosure.

Speaker 2 (02:10):
Grant then you know, I don't drink of the adult nectar,
but I would have to say Ben and mister Shilling
was kind of putting it in the glass and just like,
go ahead and smell that. You smell the cinnamon in that,
you smell the apple, the nutmeg, And for a second
I was like, now I know what Ryan Evers feels

(02:32):
like when he's drinking those pumpkin spice.

Speaker 3 (02:35):
I touch that particular beverage.

Speaker 4 (02:37):
I drank all the others though. It was very enticing,
but I didn't give in.

Speaker 3 (02:42):
He didn't. I tried my best. I was doing.

Speaker 1 (02:43):
I was being the devil on the one shoulder and
the devil on the other shoulder.

Speaker 3 (02:46):
I'm told that you're supposed to have an angel. I
just can't find mine.

Speaker 5 (02:49):
So I just can't believe you are at Great American
Beer Festival and had zero drinks.

Speaker 3 (02:54):
That shows some real, real willpower.

Speaker 5 (02:56):
Man.

Speaker 3 (02:56):
It was it was you.

Speaker 1 (02:58):
Best believe if we're going to the Great America Barbecue Fest,
I'm eating everything on the menu, everything.

Speaker 3 (03:03):
All of it. Yes, whatever that is, give me? Was it? Ryan?
Like right?

Speaker 1 (03:07):
It was like two weeks after he went vegan and
he had to go to the one.

Speaker 3 (03:10):
Remember that tear.

Speaker 1 (03:13):
Tear is rolling down his face. Is everybody's walking by
with these plates And did wow he all this meeting?

Speaker 3 (03:26):
You said?

Speaker 1 (03:26):
He said, the smells he was killing me because I
was going through you was going through the withdrawal portion
of it at the time. And yeah, He's like, the
smells were killing me. And he's not gonna sit there,
just like carrots stages, just mad as hell. Oh, Broncos
Country and I got a big show tonight, five six,
six times. It was text on you guys, want to
get valve Daniel Popper from the Athletics. You got to
join seven o five, Ryan Harris to join us seven

(03:47):
thirty five.

Speaker 3 (03:48):
Uh, we had a lot of stuff to get through.

Speaker 1 (03:50):
Picking the game's NFL six pack a little bit later,
Uh as well Thursday Night Football last night, and we
once again I'm pulling the Bernie Sanders meme out.

Speaker 3 (03:58):
I am once again asking.

Speaker 1 (03:59):
You to please run the ball, Seahawks, because you were
killing me with this Gino Smith throwing fifty times a game.

Speaker 2 (04:07):
Well, even though ken Walker had his moments in the game,
San Francisco for the most part kept the Seahawks running
game in check right, and there were some opportunities in
the passing game they they just could not connect, Like
when dk Metcalf was in the end zone, he just
couldn't get that right foot.

Speaker 3 (04:27):
What is it with that that big toe on the
right foot.

Speaker 2 (04:29):
That's what we saw with Isaiah Likely of Thursday night
football against Kansas City. It's something do they need to
kind of shrink their you know, shoes gotta wear tire.

Speaker 3 (04:40):
Cleats, so that's all you can do. You can't wear
those clowns shoe cleats out there. But you're gonna go.

Speaker 2 (04:45):
You look at and you point out what Geno Smith
was doing as far as they but the Seattle defense
when it was on the line with I think maybe
the fourth string running back for the forty nine ers, and.

Speaker 3 (05:01):
He just busts off. This were like sixty yards Bernardo, Yeah,
it's just like a seventy six yard run.

Speaker 4 (05:06):
Do you know what it is? All you have to
do is slow them down and stop them, you win
the game.

Speaker 3 (05:10):
Yeah, so I'm not.

Speaker 2 (05:12):
I'm not going to blame Geno because sometimes I'm not.

Speaker 3 (05:15):
Blaming the situations. I'm not blaming Geno.

Speaker 1 (05:17):
I'm just saying that it's amazing how the Seahawks offense.
He's completely unbalanced, and for a defensive head coach like
Mike McDonald, you figure that that's that just doesn't make sense.
I mean, we're we're basically a third of the way
through the season for those teams right, six games. It's
the seventeen game schedule, so not you know, a little
bit more than a third way through the season, and
Gino Smith already has more than half the passing attempts

(05:40):
he had all last year.

Speaker 2 (05:42):
But sometimes that changes, Like you said, looking at where
Seattle's last year and where they are now, it's always
an evolution, Like look at okay, case of point. Here
are the different Broncos. Right, we're waiting for the evolution
to take place. Now what we saw on Sunday.

Speaker 3 (05:59):
I don't want to go this throwing fifty times a game.
I know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (06:01):
I don't I don't I don't want that, But what
happens when you face a team and that happens.

Speaker 4 (06:07):
And I'm going to take you back just a little
rewind the clock.

Speaker 2 (06:12):
When I played for the Denver Broncos, we were one
of the better teams against the run. Statistically, when you
look at us against the pass, we were, you know,
middle of the pack, right, And that was because we
were top five against the run.

Speaker 4 (06:26):
So teams had to throw the.

Speaker 2 (06:28):
Ball at a large volume, right, So it made our
defense look a little unbalanced. Sometimes it all depends on
who you're facing against. If they're stuffing the run, you
can't keep running into a brick wall.

Speaker 4 (06:40):
You just can't do it.

Speaker 2 (06:41):
And sometimes you may have to throw thirty thirty five,
forty five, fifty whatever.

Speaker 3 (06:46):
Fifty two times in the game.

Speaker 1 (06:47):
But it's not just been them, It's been all year
with Gino Smith. I mean, they just they just keep
doing it. They just keep throwing the football and not
running it. I mean the game against the Broncos where
he had the least to passing attempts at twenty five,
then against New England forty four attempts, Miami thirty four attempts,
Detroit fifty six attempts, New York Giants forty attempts, Sam

(07:09):
Fan fifty two attempts.

Speaker 3 (07:11):
They're throwing the ball with me too much.

Speaker 2 (07:14):
Okay, well, once again, let's look at last night. The
Seahawks rush twenty times. I mean, in comparison to the
fifty two attempts.

Speaker 1 (07:25):
One of those was gene Au. Don't count that, but yeah,
Sharbonay run at five times. He had Walker run at
fourteen times. Charbonday got twenty yards on five carries night,
of which came on one carry. Walker forty two yards
on fourteen Carries's long over eight. That's a two point
three average. That's not getting it done. I mean, don't
get it wrong. That's not getting done.

Speaker 3 (07:40):
It's not.

Speaker 2 (07:40):
But you still gotta give Fred Warner and the forty
nine ers credit.

Speaker 3 (07:43):
Oh yeah, quick defense. I'm not trying to take away
from the Niners.

Speaker 1 (07:47):
I'm trying to talk about this this in putting a
ball on Thursday football, Seattle is in a horrifying trend
of throwing the ball an absurd number of times.

Speaker 3 (07:56):
Gino Smiths already been sacked nineteen times on the season.

Speaker 1 (07:57):
He's on pace for sixty sacks this year.

Speaker 4 (08:00):
They're gonna get that man killed.

Speaker 2 (08:03):
Well, that says a lot about the overall strategy now,
the inability to run the ball effectively. And I'm with you, like,
if Kenneth Walker cannot run the ball, Zach Sharbon at
show last night that he's got a punch his chance,
So maybe he wants to get him a little more involved.

(08:25):
And once again I always go back to this, this.

Speaker 4 (08:28):
Is my carner rule.

Speaker 2 (08:29):
It's not about how many carries you give your running back.
It's the amount of touches, which is entirely different.

Speaker 1 (08:37):
You can use the swing pass, the screen game, those
kinds of things is an extension of the run game.
And I would love to see them do a little
bit more of that Walker.

Speaker 3 (08:47):
Had they did with Walker?

Speaker 1 (08:48):
They did it was eight catches thirty seven yards, eight
catching on eight targets, and they did go to him
a little bit sharpa hily got one target and turned
that into a fifteen yard game. And it felt like
Walker maybe he was back a little too early from
the injury. Maybe Scharbonnage should have been the guy with Walker.
Pepperd in a little bit less. But yeah, and then
DK Man, what a burtally bad night eleven targets on
the night, but only three receptions for.

Speaker 3 (09:09):
Forty eight yards.

Speaker 4 (09:11):
Well, I mean, I love that.

Speaker 2 (09:13):
As a fantasy owner because I was planning against that.

Speaker 1 (09:17):
I have already interested in that regard, but it was
one of those things and I picked the Niners to win.
But I just looking at this thing, like what the
Seattle is doing with Ryan Grubb. We've had this conversation
several times, like they're throwing too much, and it's so
bizarre because you've got a defensive guy as your head coach,
which normally when you get these defensive guys, you feel
like you're going to have.

Speaker 3 (09:36):
A somewhat conservative offense.

Speaker 1 (09:38):
But I guess we're seeing in Seattle, and I guess
we're seeing in Washington different degrees of having a more
aggressive offense.

Speaker 3 (09:43):
In Washington, it's working. In Seattle, you're not winning games.

Speaker 2 (09:48):
Well, the reason is working in Seattle. It goes back
to Jane Daimes in his skill set. Like I don't
know about two, but I'm not a.

Speaker 4 (09:57):
Fan of stationary targets.

Speaker 2 (10:00):
Guys who stay inside that tackle box and sit at
six to eight yards to me playing against in the
scheming against that guy, I love that.

Speaker 4 (10:10):
Because you know he's not gonna run.

Speaker 2 (10:12):
But when you have a guy that's mobile, who can
break down the pocket and navigate it, that changes things.

Speaker 4 (10:17):
And Gino is not that type of guy.

Speaker 2 (10:20):
This is why I always say that if your off
as a coordinator, and you have a guy that's really dynamic, right,
not a guy who can run, because we often run,
especially if Cheetera was chasing us. But I need a
guy that's dynamic that can impact the game in multiple ways.

Speaker 3 (10:34):
Look, if a Cheeta's chasing me, I don't have to
be the fastest out running, I just have to be
the not slowest.

Speaker 1 (10:39):
So between you, Zach and Grant back there that I
have one he is getting kneecapped.

Speaker 4 (10:43):
Well, well, first of all, I'm not getting caught. I'm
gonna be the one that told tell us.

Speaker 2 (10:47):
I'm just saying, man, you're not gonna believe what Ben did,
man cab.

Speaker 5 (10:54):
Getaway. You've moved with your knees nowadays, Nick, I don't know.

Speaker 2 (10:57):
Hey, hey, you know what, even though you see me
get up by this chair and it looks a little slow,
if there's a teata coming, I'm gonna hit that burst.

Speaker 3 (11:05):
That's so say with life for death res all the line.
They'll have the turbo button.

Speaker 2 (11:08):
And in Madden Football, what is that is that the
whole button is the right trigger?

Speaker 3 (11:12):
You know you hit the right triggers.

Speaker 5 (11:15):
I just figured you'd take the hit stick and hit
me and Zach knock us both.

Speaker 3 (11:18):
Out of it.

Speaker 4 (11:19):
I look like Benjamin, No, I'm would do that.

Speaker 3 (11:23):
Yeah, keep telling.

Speaker 1 (11:24):
Thrust he's trying to save the whole party. Here this trail,
somebody's dying a dysentery. It's just not gonna be me.

Speaker 3 (11:29):
Hey, trying to save the whole party. That's how everybody gets.
That's what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (11:32):
Right, So we're all in agreement. We would trip Ben
and then we go free. Yes, okay, there you go.
You gotta outrun.

Speaker 3 (11:39):
One of you is gonna have to outrun Smith and Wesson.
At that point, I'm just saying I'm.

Speaker 1 (11:43):
Shooting ankels im, shoot knee caps, Thank you boy, and
surviving me and breathing.

Speaker 3 (11:47):
You're cool.

Speaker 1 (11:48):
We went to Hooters, split and play of wings last week.

Speaker 4 (11:51):
You gonna put out your little pistol, but I think.

Speaker 3 (11:55):
You can run. Huh and knees are hurt you now
you think to hurt?

Speaker 2 (11:57):
Now?

Speaker 3 (11:57):
We love them.

Speaker 1 (12:00):
Reminds scene from uh William Shatner from Boston. Legally, you
didn't want to defend the guy, so like he shoots
him in the heat. Captain said he was trying to
attack him, so you didn't have to wrap him as
a lawyer.

Speaker 2 (12:09):
See, that's that's Bason in all Bright special article three.

Speaker 4 (12:14):
Dash one, I am the devil, you know, yes, and you.

Speaker 3 (12:16):
Know like I make no bones about it. I'm not.
I'm just saying I am going to survive.

Speaker 4 (12:21):
You don't want to know? How about that?

Speaker 3 (12:23):
Yeah? I always love that scene from uh, what is.

Speaker 1 (12:26):
It The Vengers or whatever where Captain and Tony are
arguing and he's like, what do you what do you
know about laying down on the wire for somebody else?
And it's like, I think I just cut the wire.

Speaker 3 (12:35):
Cut the wire.

Speaker 1 (12:37):
Absolutely to Stark in that scenario, like your your captain
are You're altruistic and you're like, yeah, I got you, man,
don't worry about it. I'm like, I'm just gonna solve
the problem. Like I'm not gonna you know, how about
nobody blows up?

Speaker 2 (12:50):
Well that's two ways to solve a problem. But just
approach in a different manner.

Speaker 1 (12:54):
Right, Yes, I tried valor. I tried being humble once
it didn't take it.

Speaker 2 (12:59):
Yes, you know what, I want to strain myself here.

Speaker 1 (13:05):
Five six six huns zeros in textall I gotta look good.

Speaker 3 (13:07):
Questions coming in. We'll get to goose here a little
bit already mentioned.

Speaker 1 (13:09):
Daniel Popper going to join us top of the hour
from the Athletic Good chance to preview the charges. Ryan
Harris he'll join us in the next hour as well.
Get a chance to uh to talk to him. We've
got some heroes thank you stuff coming out here soon.
They're gonna be uh gonna be getting into that. You
guys want to pay attention to all that kind of stuff.
And there's a there's already wood Radio himself right over there.
I think I showed him in the knee cap. He
looks like, you know, he looks like the guy that
could could fight off the cheetah.

Speaker 4 (13:30):
See, now now you.

Speaker 3 (13:31):
Lost, you know, now he started something.

Speaker 2 (13:33):
Now you're you're allowing more of your true self to
come out about who you were to.

Speaker 4 (13:38):
Yeah, that's what I'm doing.

Speaker 3 (13:39):
I'm literally I'm all in the room.

Speaker 1 (13:40):
Like which one of these guys am I shooting in the
knee camp here. That's that's what I'm doing right now.
This is this is what my life has devolved to.

Speaker 2 (13:45):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (13:45):
We got interesting games coming.

Speaker 1 (13:46):
Up this week at tough games, tough defensive games for
Colorado football, where they see you with Kansas State here
at home, you got the Denver Broncos, you got the
Chargers coming to town. It's gonna be an interesting slate
of football for the for Denver and for Colorado football fans.
Which team do you think I think I know the
answer here, But which team do you think has the
better chance of coming out of this unscathed?

Speaker 2 (14:08):
Obviously it's the Broncos. I think that there's more to
digest with the Cu Buffs. That's not to say that
they can't pull it off at home, but when you
just look at what's going on with the Chargers and
the injuries and being banged up, I'm not gonna say
that that's an easy win, because there's no such thing
as easy wins, but just looking at it on paper,

(14:30):
this is a game that the Broncos should come out
and they should come out smelling like roses.

Speaker 3 (14:37):
Well, he's going.

Speaker 1 (14:37):
To be a tough, physical football game with them, and
then you got another game with others to Kansas State
coming to town.

Speaker 3 (14:43):
That's going to be interesting. You've got a CU team.

Speaker 1 (14:46):
That I think people didn't believe we're gonna be able
to go down to Florida and do what they did
to Central Florida, who has an arguably better rushing attack
than Kansas State.

Speaker 3 (14:54):
But Kansas State is a strong run team.

Speaker 1 (14:57):
They've got kind of a three headed attack with their
quarterback and running backs, one of which used to be
here at CU. And I wonder if there's gonna be
any sort of revenge angle there as well.

Speaker 2 (15:06):
Dylan Ewards, Well, there's always a revenge angle no matter
what lovel the football. Every guy facing a former coach
or teammate wants a little get back.

Speaker 4 (15:16):
But I'll say this about you know SeeU. They have
done a better job.

Speaker 2 (15:22):
Defending this year than they did last year, and they've
done a better job in the second half of games
than they did earlier in this season. I know Shallo
Sanders has not been a participant for the team, and
I'll say this the defense, especially in the secondary, they
have performed well without Shallow.

Speaker 4 (15:44):
So whenever Shallow comes back, he's going to have to Now.

Speaker 2 (15:49):
Elevate his level play to be where there was a
defensive player right now. But the defensive coordinator, Robertlifinson man,
he has done a hell of a job and it
looks different from what Charles Kelly ran last year.

Speaker 4 (16:01):
So to me, it's gonna be a great game.

Speaker 2 (16:03):
But this would be a game that I would say
this casey game could be closed, but I still give
it to see you at home because of the momentum
and the skilled players they had.

Speaker 3 (16:13):
Well, it'll be interesting to see for sure. Wet we
come back.

Speaker 1 (16:15):
We're talking a little bit about the Nuggets, while the
Russell Restbook edition has another added benefit. Plus some comments
from KCP. This is Broncos Country Night right here on Kiawa.
Welcome back to it, Broncos Country Tonight. Benjamin Olbrighten, Nick Ferguson,
Grant Smith here with you. I didn't know it his
festive shirt Friday that we're doing around here.

Speaker 4 (16:33):
It's just a regular shirts.

Speaker 3 (16:35):
If it's colorful, it's festive. They have festive shirt. Saw
its festive shirt Friday. We just don't live by the
Ben Albright role of either gray or black. Only if
they're paying me to put the other stuff on. I will,
so I don't even wear I don't wear logos either.

Speaker 1 (16:48):
That's not anything looks festive next to the rumpled waffle shirt.

Speaker 3 (16:52):
Fair we need what logo do I wear? You won?
Tim Jenkins and the Okay, that's my buddies. I don't
care it counts.

Speaker 1 (17:02):
I'm a human billboard, like they gotta pay me if
they want to put advertising on this. You want to
put advertising on all this right here, you start paying me.

Speaker 2 (17:11):
Wait a minute, did you see Ben just rub his
hand like around his chest, like if they want to
put something right here, all around here, like he was
rope rubbing like a big paper rub on his chest.

Speaker 3 (17:24):
This chestp wass to be brought to you by vix.

Speaker 1 (17:26):
They can show me the money just saying I will absolutely.

Speaker 4 (17:31):
Oh, you know, it reminds me of gave you with
the healing powers, you.

Speaker 2 (17:36):
Know, the introductions to NFL games when the players like, hey,
Nick Ferguson from Georgia Tech. I was dying with my
son one day because a guy got up there and
he said, well, I can't remember what his name, but
let's just say Raf Singletary body by tackle bell Yes, right,
I just dial left And I was like there's no
way they allowed him to say that on live TV.

Speaker 3 (17:59):
And he probably could paid for it.

Speaker 1 (18:00):
No, he wasn't see I'm like Petie Pablo talking about
the Seacrems Gin on the end of the song I
Love Secrets Gin, because I'm just saying, even though Grant
didn't know what Petty Pablo was, I know who pet
Pablo was.

Speaker 5 (18:12):
I just didn't recognize him at a Red Hot Chili's
Peppers concert.

Speaker 3 (18:15):
That's the last place I ever expected him. Did you
give your wife his poncho? Yes, he did. He take
it off and spend it like a helicopter around his head.
Because I like it and.

Speaker 4 (18:28):
They're paying me for it.

Speaker 3 (18:29):
I'm just saying.

Speaker 1 (18:30):
I'm just saying, like, you know, I'm like it have
been that way since since like high school, So you
want to be a walking billbo. No, what I'm saying
is just like in high school, you know, I brought
it back in the night and.

Speaker 3 (18:39):
They've been in a giant tummy.

Speaker 1 (18:40):
He'll figure shirts and all that kind of stuff, And
I'm like.

Speaker 3 (18:42):
Bro, why you like, are they paying you to put
their logo on you?

Speaker 4 (18:45):
Then what are you doing?

Speaker 2 (18:46):
Like? What what do you know?

Speaker 3 (18:47):
You're repping them? You give your free advertising for them.
You're there, this is your commercial space.

Speaker 1 (18:52):
So you have a price point. Everybody has a price point.
Everyone has a price point. Some people are higher than mine.

Speaker 2 (19:00):
How much would I have to pay you to go
to a Broncos game with kind of a Neon sign
on your back that kind of constantly goes by like
a ticker that was that would say you.

Speaker 3 (19:11):
Know, Nick was right? Oh, Nick was right.

Speaker 1 (19:14):
That's gonna be too. What were you right about? It
doesn't make a difference. Well, you have to be right
about something first.

Speaker 4 (19:19):
Well, I mean I've been writing about let me.

Speaker 3 (19:23):
Get away with that too.

Speaker 6 (19:24):
I really thought you let me get away with almost pass.
I thought you were gonna I would do that like Punch.
I would do that if I lost to Betsy, I
would totally do that. I know you're not a way
drink man to punishment wheel.

Speaker 4 (19:38):
Yes, yes I am.

Speaker 3 (19:40):
Okay, Yes we might we might work something out with that.

Speaker 1 (19:43):
We'll talk a little bit about the the Denver Nuggets man.

Speaker 3 (19:46):
And you know, we talked about what Russell Westbrook, what
he brings to this team.

Speaker 1 (19:50):
But you think there's an additional benefit Dan being Well yeah,
I mean, listen to some.

Speaker 2 (19:54):
Comments that were made by Jamal Murray where murvys like man,
there's a lot of guys currently on the Nuggets roster
who grew up watching Russell Westbrook and knowing, as though
Jamal words and paraphrasing here, that when Russell comes to practice,
it uplifts everyone.

Speaker 1 (20:15):
Right.

Speaker 4 (20:15):
I think that's a.

Speaker 2 (20:16):
Good thing because with Jamal speaking that into the universe,
I think we're going to get the best version of
Jamal because not saying that Russell Westbrook is Jamal's idol,
but the fact that he looked up to him coming.

Speaker 4 (20:31):
Up from Kentucky.

Speaker 2 (20:33):
That we're going to see that that kind of dynamic
twin ship take place on the court and it's going
to elevate both Jamal's game and it's going to have
the potential to elevate Westbrook's game.

Speaker 3 (20:47):
Yeah, I think it is.

Speaker 1 (20:49):
And I think having that having somebody like that who
can also push you, you know, I mean the way
that and we know how I think people know how
Russell Westbrook is. I think that you can have a
friendly rapport and a collegiality as a teammate, but also
have somebody push you to be better at the same time.

Speaker 3 (21:05):
And I do think he brings that to the table.
For me, I look at it this way.

Speaker 2 (21:09):
It is going to make Jamal's attitude much better. Because
Jamal is a hell of a player. Has he received
the recognition from around the.

Speaker 4 (21:18):
League and outside of Denver as though he should. No,
But I feel as though Jamal lacks that killer instinct
and something that I believe coach Malon was trying to
give and inspire his entire team.

Speaker 2 (21:31):
But bringing a guy in like Jamal when they brought
in Boogie Cousins that that changed a lot for the team.
But bringing a guy like westbrookid it should tough it
up this team and definitely tough enough Jamal too as well.

Speaker 1 (21:46):
And I think that's the one thing they need. I
love I love Joker, I love this team. I love
the way it's construct They don't have a lot of
killer instinct guys. They don't have a lot of I'm
gonna I'm gonna finish you off guys. They seem a
little bit more passive. Part of that, I think is
Jokic's personality. He's willing to give up the shot and
make the play, and there's a little bit of a
passiveness to him, not that you know, it's worked out
for him in his game.

Speaker 3 (22:05):
But I don't want some killers too, you know, I
want some We do need some dogs.

Speaker 1 (22:08):
We need somebody who's like games on the line. I'm
taking it to the rack, you know. Yeah, every true.

Speaker 2 (22:14):
Like last year when we saw Jamal throw the heating
pack on the court, right, I gave him a little
strife for that because that was uncharacteristic of Jamal.

Speaker 4 (22:27):
Now, I'm not.

Speaker 2 (22:28):
Saying that Westbrook is going to rub off on Jamal
in the way that he's going to become like a
loose cannon. But I do believe, as a coach once
told me, if you're going to play sports, you gotta
have a little that.

Speaker 4 (22:45):
Donky in you.

Speaker 3 (22:47):
That's me.

Speaker 4 (22:47):
You're giving you the PC version. Yeah, yes, yeah, you.

Speaker 1 (22:50):
Gotta, you, Gottau, there's times you're gonna have to be
the north end of the southbound horse.

Speaker 3 (22:54):
Yes, right you.

Speaker 2 (22:55):
And for me, when you look at the Nuggets, they
don't have too many guys who possess that attitude.

Speaker 3 (23:02):
That's exactly what I'm getting. I'm saying, I want I
want some of that. I want some.

Speaker 1 (23:06):
Dear Lord David Jesus, playing there in your Major eight
pounds six ounces. I've seen this for other people that
I wanted for myself.

Speaker 3 (23:15):
Yes, why not?

Speaker 2 (23:17):
Because with the offensive talent that the Denver Nuggets possess,
if they were able to harness that and give that
to every single guy, just imagine what they will be
able to do.

Speaker 4 (23:30):
Because most teams around the league, they know that.

Speaker 2 (23:33):
The Nuggets are a defensive juggernaut on the defensive side.
They can play at times, but they don't embrace that.
They don't embrace that culture.

Speaker 3 (23:43):
Right, and it feels like that.

Speaker 1 (23:45):
I mean, I think we're both trying to say the
same thing and want a little nasty attitude sometimes, you know,
we want a little bit of that. The Nuggets are
not really viewed as that team by anybody around the league.

Speaker 3 (23:55):
They're not.

Speaker 2 (23:56):
And so for me, instead of Jamal throwing the hot
pack on the court, I want to see.

Speaker 3 (24:01):
Him in someone's face. I want to see him throw
bow underneath going for a rebound, I inadvertently hit you
in the nose.

Speaker 2 (24:09):
WHOA.

Speaker 4 (24:09):
Well, I'm not advocating for Dennis Robins.

Speaker 1 (24:13):
Look, I'm not trying to I'm not trying to to
to get Jamal Murray to commit felonious assault on the court.

Speaker 3 (24:19):
But I wouldn't mind if they got a little scrappy.
I wouldn't mind it, and I would love it if
we had Donis Robin. Yeah, well yeah, just saying we
don't have that guy bad as he wants to be.
He don't.

Speaker 2 (24:29):
You can think about when you know Edwards, Anthony Edwards
last season, the attitude that he took.

Speaker 3 (24:36):
On exactly and he wos team does have that or
did have that edge. I guess I should say I
haven't seen the new team on the new look team,
but they did have that edge and I didn't.

Speaker 2 (24:43):
I didn't feel as though Jamal kind of stepped into that,
like he should have embraced it, but he didn't embrace it.
But I think with Westbrook being on the team, Westbrook
is going.

Speaker 4 (24:54):
To tell him, hey, man, you know who you are.
You know what you did.

Speaker 2 (24:58):
You guys brought a title to den when it hasn't
been one in forty seven years.

Speaker 3 (25:03):
Embrace that.

Speaker 2 (25:03):
Had that attitude every time you have the ball in
your hand, think that you're going to score and all
that you're going to score.

Speaker 4 (25:09):
And also too if you got to talk that trash
talking and walking at the same time.

Speaker 2 (25:14):
So this is why I feel as though the Nuggets
are gonna look a lot different this year opposed to
year's past, because you have Westbrook sitting on the bench
coming off the bitch, but he's gonna have that attitude.

Speaker 3 (25:27):
Yeah. And one of the Texters, Bill Lambert, Yeah, that's
I'm not saying I need the.

Speaker 1 (25:31):
Bad boy Pistons, but like twenty I'll take them, but
twenty percent of that I'd be certainly happy with.

Speaker 4 (25:36):
I bet you coach maclone would take the absolutely coach.

Speaker 3 (25:39):
With the that's what he's trying, That's what his ideal world.

Speaker 1 (25:42):
Coach blow would have the Nuggets being the bad boy
Pistons as far as that kind of stuff.

Speaker 2 (25:45):
But this is why I feel as though he wants
more veterans opposed to Kevin guys one and more young guys.

Speaker 3 (25:53):
Yeah, and that's something we can get into a little
bit a little bit later. We my six sixt nine
zero is the text line.

Speaker 1 (25:58):
You guys want to get involved in the in the conversation,
watch a little Dodgers podres so he dodgers up one
nothing on the dads. You wanted to talk about some
comments a KCP made didn't have time to squeeze that
in last segment, but KCP out there saying the quiet
part out loud.

Speaker 2 (26:13):
Nick, Yeah, he did, and basically he took a couple
of shots at I would dare say, his former Nuggets teammates.
And he had this to say a couple of days ago,
this is the first team that I've been on that
everyone everybody likes to defend. And now KCP is playing

(26:35):
with the Orlando Magic. And the first thing I thought
about was, like, what's he actually telling the truth? Because
we know Gochmlan wants his team to have more of
a defensive presence. But it seems as though KKCP was
talking about someone in particular.

Speaker 4 (26:54):
Was he talking about maybe Jamal or even Michael Porter Jr.

Speaker 3 (27:01):
Like I'm just saying that's what I thought. He the
quotes handy. Yes, So the quote here is like I just.

Speaker 2 (27:11):
Read, this is the first team I've ever been on
that everybody likes to defend.

Speaker 4 (27:15):
Right, And to his credit, when.

Speaker 2 (27:18):
You look at the Nuggets, the Nuggets looked at CACP
as being the defender of the team. Both he and
Aaron Gordon was kind of like specialists. Right when he
comes off the bench, was like a lot of energy,
but he wasn't like Okay, like Aaron Gordon is he
has the category of being able to guard the other

(27:39):
team's best player.

Speaker 1 (27:41):
That's that's that's his sility exactly.

Speaker 2 (27:45):
So they only had two of those guys KCP and
Aaron Gordon and Nicola Jois. I mean his defense has
improved over the years, being able to get his hands
into the pass and raining deflecting passes starting off the break.

Speaker 1 (27:59):
I would call him a good defender, now would ca
him a great one? Like okay, he's above average. So
a keem Elija wan great morning, the kim named Tombo.

Speaker 3 (28:09):
Yes, yeah, but.

Speaker 2 (28:09):
That's not that's not really Nikola Jokicic's game. But he
can actually defend when you need to. Now, he's not
like a Joelle and b being that rim protector. That No,
that's nice game.

Speaker 5 (28:20):
He's not.

Speaker 3 (28:21):
Yeah, he's not.

Speaker 1 (28:21):
You know, I'm trying to think, who are some of
a couple of those rail thin guys that you would
get block shots every once a while, but they're actually
terrible defenders. Remember like Sean Bradley, you know, George Muir.
Yeah he's not that, No, he's not. You know, he's
a better defender than the guys most people give him
credit for.

Speaker 2 (28:37):
Right, But looking at Caseyp's comments, obviously, automatically my mind
went to Michael Porter Jr.

Speaker 3 (28:45):
Yeah and Jamal Yeah.

Speaker 1 (28:47):
And I mean it's claringly obvious. I mean, those two guys,
that's not their game. They don't enjoy doing it. Where
I think Eric Gordon Joyce locking down guy, you know,
the best guy. I think he takes pride to Michael
Porter Junior is like, oh, this is the thing I
have to do when I'm not getting the ball right.

Speaker 2 (29:03):
And there's not too many players in the NBA right
now who you can consider to be two way players.
And for me, I'm always going to go back because
I grew up watching these two players. I grew up
watching Michael Jordan, I grew up watching Scottie Pippen, I
grew up watching Kobe Bryant, who emulated everything that Michael did.

(29:25):
And there are not too many guys in the NBA
who are two way players. Like Kawhi Leonard was kind
of considered to be a two way player, but he's
essentially kind of falling off offensively, right. So when I
look at the different nuggets and the challenges, that are
gonna happen to the West. They're gonna need to be
better defensively as a unit. Even if individually Jamal and

(29:49):
Michael Porter Junior never get to that particular level, they
can do it from a group standpoint, being able to defend.

Speaker 3 (29:56):
Yeah, and there's I mean, finding those those players.

Speaker 1 (29:58):
I mean, that's that's a lot with this league is
about finding those guys, those two way guys, you know anymore.
I mean Jordan Elijaa, we talked about earth Him, Duncan, Garnett,
Kobe obviously, those kind of guys historically that we grew
up playing it.

Speaker 3 (30:09):
Who are of those guys in the league now?

Speaker 2 (30:10):
I mean to Jonathan Murray, Giannis, Well Yannis is one
of those guys. When Byama is one of those guys
in a bio, Yes, Jaron Jackson, I'm just trying to
run down the list of people. I think.

Speaker 3 (30:25):
Jamond Jr. Holliday, I'm just trying to run down the
list of people that did follow the Jimmy Butler, that's
a good one. Jimmy Buckets, you know why it used
to be the guy.

Speaker 1 (30:33):
I think Jimmy Moore used to be that guy than
he used Well, you used to be that guy once again.

Speaker 2 (30:38):
They are not too many guys in the NBA who
are considered to be that lockdown guy. Like one guy
that is a pain in the behind of so many people,
but I love his game is Patrick Beverley.

Speaker 3 (30:51):
Yeah, I love p Bev. Now is his day's back
at Arkansas. I love p Beev.

Speaker 4 (30:54):
Yes, like I wouldn't love to have seen Pet Bell.

Speaker 1 (30:57):
He's the Roman of the modern era and he guards
guys bigger than much fager than he is.

Speaker 3 (31:03):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (31:04):
Yes, But I wonder how the Nuggets players feel about
what KCP said.

Speaker 4 (31:12):
You think there there's a little animosity there from their part.

Speaker 1 (31:16):
Feels like it, I mean, gosh, and it feels like
there's some you know, CACP. It felt like an unnecessary shot.
Was he like though coming back? Oh, he's not wrong, okay,
but it felt unnecessary.

Speaker 3 (31:26):
A little bit.

Speaker 1 (31:26):
And that's why I'm like, Okay, I wonder if there's
a little bitterness there in terms of guys that they paid,
like Michael Porter Jr.

Speaker 3 (31:33):
That kept him from being able to be able to
stick with the Nuggets.

Speaker 1 (31:36):
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