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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Wellcome do it Broncos Country tonight. But with all Brian Dick, Ferguson,
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Grant Smith five six sixty nine zeros.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
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here in just a few minutes. Do a little early.
Speaker 1 (00:08):
Had to switch them things around in order to make
sure we could accommodate our our guy. Ryan Hasse will
join us in the next segment. Thanks to Zach for
helping out with the Pickham segment there as well. Let's
get too without any further ado your NFL six pack.
Speaker 2 (00:20):
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Speaker 3 (00:24):
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Speaker 4 (00:29):
No.
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Six the top six NFL headlines.
Speaker 1 (00:33):
What Last November twentieth, the Buffalo Bills beat the Jets
thirty two to six at high Mark Stadium chippy fourth quarter,
there was a skirmish of the tunnel leaving the field
between the Bills offensive tackle d On Dawkins and Jets
defensive end Michael Clemens.
Speaker 2 (00:47):
In the locker room after the game, Dawkins had some.
Speaker 1 (00:49):
Choice words for the Jets and I'm not a fan, man,
I'm not a fan of the Jets very disrespectful players.
But then he took an unusual shot at Jets defensive
line coach Aaron Whitecotton, saying, quote, there's a lot of
emotion guys over there, very emotional guys, even their d
line coach, very emotional.
Speaker 2 (01:04):
Unmanly.
Speaker 1 (01:05):
Calling another team's assistant coach unmanly is not something you
hear very often. Kind of a bizarre comment to make
about another team's assistant coach. That should be noted that
white Cotton was an assistant in Buffalo from twenty seventeen
to twenty nineteen Dawkins first three years with the Bills,
so they do know each other. White Cotton, who has
been the Jets defensive line coaches twenty twenty one. It's
pretty highly regarded and popular with his players.
Speaker 2 (01:27):
What do you think about, Yeah, Dawkins calling.
Speaker 1 (01:29):
Another team's coach unmanly and does that add a little
fuel to the Monday night fire.
Speaker 5 (01:35):
I've never heard that before.
Speaker 4 (01:37):
I've heard of the players refer to coaches and other
derogats or ways. That's brand new, But yes, does it
add a little fuels to the game between the Bills
and the Jets At so freaking Litely.
Speaker 5 (01:50):
And that's the visional game.
Speaker 1 (01:53):
You think that d Lion is gonna want to like
get a little cheap shot on Dawkins.
Speaker 4 (01:57):
I'm sure, because that's what guys do. I mean, that's
what it's called playing the game between the game, or
as I learned from a defensive player, you played the
game between the listeners.
Speaker 1 (02:09):
There you go neave a little maybe a little cut
action when he's not looking.
Speaker 4 (02:12):
I mean, it's not like a cut action, and it's
just like, hey, buddy, I'm here.
Speaker 5 (02:16):
I'm just letting you know I'm here.
Speaker 2 (02:17):
Okay, that's all.
Speaker 1 (02:18):
So not gonna be like John Franklin Myers and Bill
parm poking each other in the eyes.
Speaker 5 (02:22):
No, that's not gonna be any pokey in the eyes.
Speaker 4 (02:24):
But I can't promise you that's not gonna happen underneath
the pot.
Speaker 1 (02:27):
Captain Ensano shows no mercy two.
Speaker 5 (02:33):
No injury designation for Justin Herbert.
Speaker 2 (02:35):
Joey Bolsa and Rayshawn Slater are questionable.
Speaker 1 (02:37):
Chargers quarterback Justin Herbert moved up to full practice participation
on Friday. The team has no doubt about his availability
for Sunday's game against the Broncos. Herbert has no designation here.
His ankle the Week three left the game, but played
against the Chiefs a week four used to buy we
took it close to full health remains to be seen
if left tackle Rayshawn Slater will.
Speaker 2 (02:54):
Be available to protect him.
Speaker 1 (02:55):
Slater was limited by a pectoral injury all week still
listed as questionable. Ed rusher Joey and his hip return
to practice on Friday is also this is questionable. Cornerback
Christiane Fulton as a knee, corner Dan Leonard as a hamstring,
and linebacker Ncnieban as a hamstring round out the group
of players in that group. Running back Gus Edwards, corner
Sante Samuel Junior, corner just Heir Taylor have all.
Speaker 2 (03:17):
Been ruled out.
Speaker 1 (03:19):
As the Chargers come limping into this thing, I know
I've been cautious about it being physical, but then you
look at how depleted that roster is and that's something else.
Speaker 5 (03:27):
Well it is And I know you've been talking about.
Speaker 4 (03:29):
Physicality, but how physical will this team be With some
of their marquee players a little banged up? This is
a good, excellent opportunity for the Broncos to take advantage
all of the Chargers and do that, and do it
as a physical standard.
Speaker 5 (03:44):
They should. I truly believe that.
Speaker 4 (03:47):
I mean, look, Davante has been well, doing well from
the passing game and the one game standpoint. Why not
double down with a short week against the Why not?
Speaker 2 (03:59):
I'm not a fun Yes.
Speaker 3 (04:01):
Sorry.
Speaker 2 (04:02):
Last night, the NFL.
Speaker 1 (04:03):
Blew a call on the muff of a punt by
the Seahawks. The league admitted the mistake.
Speaker 2 (04:07):
Today.
Speaker 1 (04:08):
Fordnite's coach Kyle Shanahan was asked whether he received an
apology from the league office, and she had a head
sold reporters. No, you don't get any apologies. Apologies aren't
that big of a deal. Once it happens, you got
to move on with your life. Apologies don't make it better.
I'm just glad it all worked out and moved on.
The league and their transparency here, I think is a
little bit refreshing. It helps that the forty nine as
still want to end covered to spread that. As explained
by the NFL, the key angle from Amazon Prime game
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production did not arrive until after the replay process resulted
in a ruling that the ball had not touched Seahawks part.
Speaker 2 (04:37):
Return Dee Williams.
Speaker 1 (04:38):
It should have been San Francisco's ball because the angle
that showed up too late showed the ball touching Williams's finger.
Of course, it was easy for the league to admit
the mistake when in the same breath it blames a
broadcast partner for it. The deeper question is where the
league should be relying on network televising the game or
have its own array of cameras to determing these kinds
of things. In Week one, NBC you f had a
key shot of Ravens tight end Isaiah like this so
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clearly and obviously on the white line in the back
of the end zone, wiping out what could have been
a two point try game winning touchdown at Kidsa City
on Opening night. That game had been within the cluster
of one pm Eastern games, fewer camera angles would have
been deployed by the networks and you.
Speaker 2 (05:11):
Might not change the outcome of the game.
Speaker 1 (05:13):
Leagues should have static cameras the blanket the field at
every stadium.
Speaker 2 (05:16):
People like Bill Belichick had argued for it for years.
Speaker 1 (05:18):
The only apparent reason for not doing this is, frankly,
an unwillingness to spend the money. Seahawks had won last
night's game or covered the spread after that this month,
there could have been plenty of pressure for the NFL
to peel off some of that money that they make,
can do the right thing they should have done years ago.
Speaker 4 (05:31):
Wait a minute, the league makes billions of dollars. They
got games billions, Yes, games on Peacock, games on Amazon.
Speaker 5 (05:39):
I mean they plan.
Speaker 4 (05:40):
You have to pay an arm in the leg to
watch the YouTube for directing what direct to.
Speaker 5 (05:44):
B used to be.
Speaker 4 (05:45):
So they had the money for what do you mean
you can't get the technology to understand? Yes, that was
clearly the San Francisco forty nine ers ball.
Speaker 5 (05:54):
I mean, look, I don't have the technology.
Speaker 1 (05:56):
That they have, but even I knew that ben Nick
Ferguson's eyes been any four kkn does exactly.
Speaker 5 (06:02):
I saw that in full.
Speaker 2 (06:04):
Gay.
Speaker 1 (06:05):
I'm with you on this said, I do believe the
league needs to there's some things they need to do.
I think digital chains there's something the league needs to
look into. I do believe they need to be televising
the replay process and they definitely need more camera angles
in there. If you're going to allow people to wager
on this stuff, you have to have it clean and
above board because if you have a situation like that
and hundreds of thousands of dollars change hands, people change
hands on that, and you're eventually going to ruin the
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product when people believe the integrity of the product is
not there.
Speaker 4 (06:28):
But I thought that was the goal to keep the
idea of the integrity intact it is.
Speaker 2 (06:34):
And so that's what they need to do. They need
to start putting those cameras in.
Speaker 1 (06:36):
So if they can do that, because you know, if
they don't, they get something wrong.
Speaker 4 (06:39):
What would have happened if the forty nine ers would
have lost that game?
Speaker 1 (06:42):
I think that what you I think you'd had a
lot of people that were talking about, hey, wait a minute,
you know we've got this replay or something that went
the wrong way. People would be less likely to wager
on it. You're revenue stream start drying up?
Speaker 4 (06:54):
Would that mean that you know the league was started
sending out stimulus checks, like I said, refund checks.
Speaker 2 (06:59):
Yes, I'm just saying four.
Speaker 1 (07:01):
Last year, ABC televised all the Monday night football.
Speaker 2 (07:04):
Games due to Hollywood work stoppages.
Speaker 1 (07:08):
This year, ABC's adding more simulcasts because frankly, pro football
performs better than anything Hollywood can create Via the Associated Press.
Six more games will be televised by ESPN and ABC.
The extra games will happen on October twenty first Ravens Bucks,
November fourth, Bucks at Chiefs, November eighteenth Texans Cowboys, number
twenty fifth Ravens at Chargers, and December twenty third, Saints
at Packers. In other words, ABC will have a Monday
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night game every week for the rest of the regular season,
except November eleventh, that's Dolphins at Rams and December second
that's the Browns here at Broncos.
Speaker 2 (07:38):
The move is all about ratings.
Speaker 1 (07:39):
It's good for Disney, which owns both ABC ADESPN, for
the NFL benefits for the lower audience that it hurts
NFL's broadcast partners NBC, CBS and Fox, which now face
stiffer three letter competition on Monday nights. What do you
guys think about the ABC simulcasts the.
Speaker 2 (07:57):
On Monday night football.
Speaker 4 (07:59):
I don't really like that because you're your own direct
competitive and for me, it divides the audience.
Speaker 5 (08:07):
Now most people now.
Speaker 4 (08:09):
If you equipped, you have pictuer and pitcher, or you're
able to have multiple televisions going at one particular time.
Speaker 5 (08:15):
But for me, I don't like when the league gets
into that.
Speaker 4 (08:18):
I want to be able to sit there and focus
on one game and dissect the game, because in my
household they don't watch television.
Speaker 2 (08:26):
Which, so is it the exact same broadcast. It's just
Joe Buck and Troy Aikman on ESPN and ABC.
Speaker 5 (08:34):
They do the same thing with the Maning cast.
Speaker 2 (08:36):
Yeah, I mean that's different. That's like the Manning cast
and versus this is.
Speaker 1 (08:40):
I mean, which, by the way, the numbers for all
the people who say they love the Manning cast, it
really must be only those people ever talking about our social.
Speaker 2 (08:47):
Ratings for they're terrible. But like the the that's the thing,
and this is just.
Speaker 1 (08:51):
The same broadcast on multiple networks and sort of splits
the audience between multiple channels. We had something like that here.
We used to broadcast games on the Fox and KOA.
Now we just just do it all on.
Speaker 2 (08:59):
Ko I don't really have a problem with it as
far as that goes.
Speaker 1 (09:04):
My problem is more with the double headers they have
on Monday night.
Speaker 2 (09:07):
They have two games on Monday Night, Like, what are
we doing here?
Speaker 1 (09:10):
We're now we really are competing against ourselves.
Speaker 3 (09:12):
Oh, you know.
Speaker 4 (09:12):
The idea is it's the art of the double dip right,
even though we know we shouldn't double dip the chip.
The league is double dipping because two games more advertising dollars.
Speaker 1 (09:22):
Should we be insulted or not that the Broncos are
one of two games that don't.
Speaker 2 (09:25):
Get this treatment.
Speaker 1 (09:27):
I think it's a I mean, I understand it even
as a process fan.
Speaker 2 (09:31):
I mean, the Brown's the way they're playing right now.
Who wants to see them on a Monday night? Fair enough?
Speaker 1 (09:37):
Five five days and Atlanta just after four pm Easter
on a Friday.
Speaker 2 (09:41):
But the NFL and NFLPA should a joint statement defending.
Speaker 1 (09:45):
The process that allowed Bill's quarterback Josh Allen to return
to action a fourth quarter Week five game against the
Texans after striking his head on the ground and appearing
to be in some degree of distress.
Speaker 2 (09:54):
He missed two minutes and thirty.
Speaker 1 (09:55):
Seconds of game time, six minutes six seconds of real time.
Someone offered Allen smelling before he re entered the game.
The statement was issued to Tom Pelisero of NFL Network,
and as far as we could tell, it wasn't widely
distributed because almost nobody got an except Tom. The NFL
and NFLPA have reviewed the reports of the unaffiliated neurotrauma
consultant and Boost Spotters, and those reports confirmed that the
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steps required by the concussion protocol were followed and the
evaluation and clearance of Bill's quarterback Josh Allen and last
Sundays game protocol has been jointly developed or the administered
Pelisero added a supplement which isn't in the statement saying quote.
Both the league and union reviewed video of the play
came to the same conclusion as the unaffiliated neurotrauma consultant,
Boots Spotters, and team medical staff that there was no
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loss of consciousness. Loss of consciousness obviously isn't a threshold
for removal from play, but the concern was and still is,
whether the evaluation was performed slowly and deliberately enough to
come to a conclusion that Allan should have had a
locker room evaluation or that he shouldn't have returned. The
late John Madden advocated for patients imprudence with players who
are suspected of suffering concussions. League and Union contented ulus
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the process that will both permit and five days later
ratify what we saw on Sunday.
Speaker 2 (11:03):
I don't know if you guys saw this. I saw
that play. To me, it looked like he had a concussion.
Speaker 1 (11:07):
Now again, I'm not a licensed medical professional. I am
someone who has suffered a concussion, and I can spot
the symptoms thereof you.
Speaker 4 (11:16):
Don't have to be a neurologist to know when someone
is cancutting.
Speaker 2 (11:19):
Well, I'm not a chef, and I know what a
bad stake tation exactly.
Speaker 5 (11:22):
I'm going to college.
Speaker 4 (11:23):
I've seen guys getting tussles.
Speaker 5 (11:25):
And at the bar and gett knocked out. I didn't
need on here neurologists to know that dude is out cold.
Josh Allen was out cold.
Speaker 2 (11:33):
Yeah, you could tell, Yes, you could tell that.
Speaker 4 (11:35):
To me, this was wrong by the league and the
union who continues to push for better health for players.
To me, he said, not have been allowed to return
to that football game.
Speaker 2 (11:46):
And Ben, you know what a bad steak looks like,
looks like rue Chris go to shoe leather. Dick Ferguson says,
I like that, extremely well done. Please, but you send
me a plate of ash. That would be great. A
little ridiculous. We've got we've gotta get get you on
the rare steak thing. It just has to happen.
Speaker 3 (12:07):
Six.
Speaker 2 (12:08):
Sam Hartman wasn't gone from Washington for long.
Speaker 1 (12:11):
Hartman was waived by the commanders yesterday, cleared waivers today
re signed with Washington's practice squad.
Speaker 2 (12:17):
Hartman was the odd man out in.
Speaker 1 (12:18):
Washington when Marcus Mariota was declared one hundred percent healthy
and the Commander's decided they no longer needed four quarterbacks
from their fifty three man roster. We thought carrying three
in Denver was a lot. The depth chart now consisted
of Jayden Daniels starting, Marionta backing him up, and Yes,
Jeff the Sundial Driscoll as the third quarterback, nicknamed the
sun Dial because the processor in his head when viewing
the field is akin to roughly a sun dial. The
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Commanders think Hartman has promised, perhaps to be number two
behind Daniels someday. I ain't gonna keep developing him. In
the meantime, he'll just be that guy with fabulous hair.
Speaker 4 (12:49):
Well, I'll say this, he does have fabulous hair and
a beard to boot. But I think this is the
right thing that Adam Peters is doing because they are
projecting in the future. Obviously, Jane Dames is the guy
but Marcus Mariota is not one of those guys who
are going to be a plug and player. He is
just there to mentor Jane Dames to get him through
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the rough matches, which is even as though Daves is
doing a great job himself. But having Hartman there, obviously
you need a guy at the number two spot.
Speaker 5 (13:20):
In Hartman and Prudebut.
Speaker 1 (13:21):
I'm still trying to figure out why Jef Driscoll is
on that roster, as the Bengals converted him to a
wide receiver, the Texans made him a tight end, and
now he's back as a quarterback and third string backup.
We all saw his action here in Denver, where I
believe he lasted a few quarters after throwing a couple
of interceptions to the Buccaneers.
Speaker 2 (13:37):
Not good, Bob, Yeah, not good.
Speaker 3 (13:39):
Well.
Speaker 4 (13:39):
Usually in the realm of football, we normally say, if
a guy's in that situation, he must have pictures.
Speaker 1 (13:45):
Though some day, Yeah, they got some dirt, They got
some dirt on that staff somewhere. We need to touch
our guy Pagatto and figure out what's going on.
Speaker 2 (13:50):
That's the NFL six pack. Always love getting to run that.
Ryan Harris is.
Speaker 1 (13:55):
Going to join us here in just a few minutes
on the other side as well.
Speaker 2 (14:00):
Nick, before we get to Ryan anything, any.
Speaker 1 (14:02):
Other thoughts you want to get into on this Broncos
Chargers game. I still believe the Broncos are gonna win,
but as the week has gone on, I've gotten a
little bit more, a little bit more case of the
tight cheeks here as I worry about worry about that team.
Speaker 4 (14:17):
Well, hey, man, keep your tight cheeks and your tight
jeans to yourself. I know that the Chargers have played
great defense in the first two weeks, and when you
look at the average scores, they lost game spot, it's
been pretty close. So I can understand why you feel
that way. But I go back to the fact of
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knowing that Joey.
Speaker 5 (14:38):
Bosa really finishes games.
Speaker 4 (14:41):
He's coming in with the hip injury, so he's not
going to be full speed, right. And then also you
lose Santi Samuel Junior, who is the key part of
that secondary. So if coach Payton can expose that by
using either there I say, Troy Franklin or Arvin Mims Junior,
now you have an opportunity because you are able to
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take shots down the field.
Speaker 5 (15:06):
But will it actually happen, and I don't know.
Speaker 2 (15:10):
That is the big question.
Speaker 1 (15:11):
I really do believe that in order to win this game,
first of all, you need to get out to a
lead and force the Chargers to play from behind. And
then one of the other things I do want to
see is I do want them to try some things out.
Speaker 2 (15:21):
I do want them to try some shots.
Speaker 1 (15:23):
I do want them to start to figure out the
vertical aspect of this offense, because as they continue to go.
Speaker 2 (15:29):
Horizontal, this thing is going to be predictable.
Speaker 1 (15:33):
It's going to be something that defenses camp on and
it's going to make it more difficult to do the
things that Bonnicks does well around the line of scrimmage
and with the horizontal game.
Speaker 4 (15:41):
But this is why, based on the past two weeks
what Davonte has been able to do, this would be
an excellent opportunity for play action. And what I'm visualizing
in my mind, I don't know if it's going to happen.
What I'm visualizing is almost like Jake Plummer. I have
boot Row stop fold the ball down the field because
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we know from the second level to the back end
the charges are going.
Speaker 5 (16:07):
To be aggressive.
Speaker 4 (16:08):
They're coming downhill Darwin James is going to be somewhere
around the box where there's a cover two look and
he's dropping inside.
Speaker 5 (16:16):
But that will allow the Broncos.
Speaker 4 (16:18):
To take advantage both the middle of the field and
I'm going to say the outside of the field as well.
Speaker 1 (16:23):
Yeah, I think that. I think you're right. You know,
a strong run game like they've had last two weeks,
he's definitely going to help out with with building that
pass game.
Speaker 2 (16:30):
I just you know, I want to see it, you know.
And again, I think we would be having.
Speaker 1 (16:34):
A wildly different conversation and a different confidence level if
Troy Franklin hung on to that ball and they score
that touchdown.
Speaker 2 (16:41):
We're all talking about how Boat gets it.
Speaker 1 (16:42):
He's able to make those passes, and he made the pass,
it just wasn't caught. But I think the conversation and
the narratives are probably different at that point.
Speaker 4 (16:49):
Well here's the biggest narrative. Even though Troy did not
catch the pass. Now, the other defenses around the league,
they know that the Broncos have the capability and.
Speaker 5 (17:00):
They will take that shot. So it is enough to
back them off.
Speaker 4 (17:03):
But all the Broncos need to do is have one
attempt to start out the game, and it's gonna back.
Speaker 1 (17:09):
The Charges off and that's what Let's let's go first
play of the game. Chuck it deep, Barvin Mims put
them on the bang nine. Let's let's just let it
rip right there off the bat.
Speaker 5 (17:16):
Yeah, and even if he doesn't catch it, guess what
you do.
Speaker 4 (17:19):
You put Mams in that same position, flip the formation,
have him run deep, and guess what they're gonna have
to do.
Speaker 5 (17:24):
They're gonna have to back.
Speaker 2 (17:25):
The hell off.
Speaker 1 (17:25):
Yeah, keep those safeties back and allow you to kind
of work the underneath.
Speaker 2 (17:29):
I'm I'm definitely here for it. I'm looking forward to that.
This weekend.
Speaker 1 (17:32):
We got Ryan Harris coming up next right, you're on
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Speaker 2 (17:42):
Ryan, how are you doing this evening?
Speaker 3 (17:44):
That is doing great? Thanks for having me.
Speaker 2 (17:46):
Absolutely man, and I always love having you on.
Speaker 1 (17:48):
We got a got a tough game coming up here
against the a reeling injured Chargers team. But you look
at the Charges how they played this year. They've been physical,
They've run the ball incredibly well. JK Dobbins averaging an
absurd six yards per CA. As we look at this,
the Broncos got a couple of injuries along that offensive line.
It's set a position at the right tackle position going
into this division game. What do you think about about
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the lines for both these teams?
Speaker 3 (18:13):
Well, I think the.
Speaker 6 (18:14):
Big challenge is going to be on the.
Speaker 3 (18:15):
Broncos defensive line. No question.
Speaker 6 (18:18):
The Broncos defense has been able to get after the pass.
Speaker 3 (18:21):
And being able to defend against it with the secondary,
but you are going to get a consistent doseph run
and JK. Dobbins has that high average because they will
run the ball thirty five thirty times a game and
not a lot of players want to sit in there.
Berg will tell you not a lot of defenders want
to sit and MCA.
Speaker 6 (18:42):
So that's what the challenge is for the Broncos defensively.
Can they stop the run? And if I'm the vance Joseph,
now I'm looking at this as a huge opportunity to
make up for last year's you.
Speaker 3 (18:54):
Know, big loss against Miami by shutting down the Chargers
and getting a second consecutive division and a win based
on the strength of your defense and helping and helping
your while you're off.
Speaker 1 (19:08):
I think we lost Ryan there. We'll see if we
can't get that connection back. But yeah, I mean he
was making a point there for one of the big things.
One of the one of the tough things about facing
a physical, smash mouth running team like that is is
having to be in there every play for the run.
Speaker 4 (19:21):
Well, the one thing you want to do from a
defensive standpoint is make sure that everyone is on the
same page. And I am of a friend of mine
that defenders need to know where the run fits need
to be. You can figure out the past though, but
if you can't fit up on the run.
Speaker 2 (19:35):
But even more, we saw that against Man. I think
we got Ryan back.
Speaker 3 (19:37):
Now, Ryan you're there, I'm here, you got me there?
Speaker 2 (19:40):
Yeah, I gotcha. No, no worries at all.
Speaker 1 (19:42):
Man, Uh you you were cut off there or toward
the end of your answer, do you want to finish
that one out?
Speaker 6 (19:47):
Well, I'm just saying that you know that defense, the
challenges on.
Speaker 3 (19:49):
The defense to stop the run and really put themselves
on the map as one of the best defenses in
the league.
Speaker 4 (19:55):
Well, let's talk about the offensive line, because you have
Luke Wattenberg, who who is injured and Pochesky who has
an injury himself, as a guy that played on the
offensive line, how difficult is it to go into a
game like this with this magnitude. It's a divisional game
and we're talking about you're playing against a Chargers defensive
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line that's been playing pretty well thus far this season.
Speaker 3 (20:19):
Well, don't play if you want to hide, that's the
first part, right. I mean, if you are not looking
for this opportunity, then you got the wrong guys on
your offensive line. So it's not good to have injuries.
I think Alex Kelcewski played fantastic while he was in
but that means that somebody else is going to get
an opportunity, right, I Mean we won the Super Bowl
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and Matt Parodis hadn't started a game yet and then
ended up starting nineteen in a row and win the
Super Bowl.
Speaker 6 (20:45):
So offensive line is.
Speaker 3 (20:47):
The easiest place to make good players great if you
have technique taught at a consistent level. And so that's
Zach Street's going to have his work cut out for
him this week. And if the players are being pros,
they're gonna ask questions. That's the biggest thing any one
of us can do in a situation where we have
opportunity is ask questions to make sure you know it
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inside and out. Nobody's gonna get mad at you for
trying to find out as much information as you can
so you can play, or you can act, or you can.
Speaker 6 (21:15):
Do as fast as.
Speaker 3 (21:16):
You can to complete the objective.
Speaker 2 (21:18):
Broncos have started the season three and two. How surprised
are you by that?
Speaker 1 (21:23):
And as you look ahead to this second quarter of
the season, you don't want to overlook anybody, but this
thing is setting up pretty nice for the Broncos to
get to the halfway mark with a decent chance at
a winning record or better.
Speaker 3 (21:36):
Well, I'm not surprised because I got to see bow
Knicks play last year at Oregon when USC was there,
and I saw he had all the talent, and I
know that, you know, coach Payton has an offensive mind.
I've seen that that skill, the play calling. So it's
not as surprising, but surprising as they won two games
up to spending two weeks with each other. I mean,
I don't know if you guys could do that on
the show, right, if you had to lock yourselves away
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for two weeks and then get together and do a
good show. You might be tired of each other they're
up there in Virginia, but they put it together and
they're learning that to win, you have to play together
and for each other. And that's not a surprise because
the game of football teaches you to do that.
Speaker 4 (22:11):
As a guy who is the number one receiver for
the Broncos and as Courtland said, we haven't really seen
Courtland involved in the offense that much.
Speaker 5 (22:21):
What do you think is the reason as to want
that hasn't happened.
Speaker 3 (22:28):
We'll say it again one more time. Sorry, you talk
broke up there.
Speaker 4 (22:31):
Brother Corland sudden supposed to be the number one wide
receiver for the Denver Broncos and we haven't really seen
him involved in the Broncos offense. Why do you think
that is the case? And what do you think they
should do to change that?
Speaker 3 (22:45):
Their bracket coveraging him because they know that's where Bonix
wants to go with the football anytime he doesn't know
what he's looking at. And offensively, you got to be
prepared for that. And Josh Reynolds has to step up.
He did last week. Let's see it again. You know,
you got to find some production at the tight end position,
it has to happen for an offense. You can't shoot
yourself in the foot like that, and you got to
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convert on third down. But Corland Sutton, you know, he
has turned a corner this year. His routes, his want to,
his willingness, all of the things that you want your
receiver to be he has. He just doesn't have anybody
anywhere else on the field that's a pass catching threat
that's consistent enough to get him to at least get
man coverage.
Speaker 6 (23:24):
Thirty percent of the time.
Speaker 1 (23:26):
Well to that end, and I completely agree with you
in the tight end position. Why are we not using
our perhaps most explosive athlete in Marvin Mims. More, we've
got Troy Franklin out there, guy who struggled a little
bit in the in the preseason in camp both beating
the press and with you know, I with drops. So
we saw the drop of a well placed Bonix pass
a deep ball in the Raiders game.
Speaker 2 (23:45):
But Marvin Mims, who is I.
Speaker 1 (23:48):
Don't think it's even debatable that he's our most explosive
athlete can't find the field well.
Speaker 3 (23:54):
To be honest, I think it's a situation where you
have a very calm demeanor of soft spoken player and
sometimes in an environment like the NFL, that's seen as
maybe disinterested board or with an attitude. But you know,
Mems is an amazing person in addition to being a
great player and with speed. But I think his demeanor
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makes it so the coaches don't trust trust him as
much or know what to do with them in the
same time, so it's an opportunity for him to show
up every day at the right mindset and and show
the coaches that he wants to be there. And I
think his time's coming. You know, he's a little bit
more straight line speed than you need in an offense,
but I think he's willing to do the work to improve.
Speaker 4 (24:36):
Well, speaking of a guy who is stepping up to
and living up to the bill Riley Moss. Now Ben
has coined a difference a name for Roley Moss and
Ben you call.
Speaker 2 (24:48):
You got ps two and next Moss three sixty.
Speaker 4 (24:50):
So watching Roley come of age, what have you thought
about his style of play up to this point?
Speaker 6 (24:57):
Well, I love that Riley Moss made the improvement week.
Speaker 3 (25:01):
After week, right, I mean the two weeks ago he's
against the Jets. He gives up the.
Speaker 6 (25:06):
Pass interference late in the game and then the.
Speaker 3 (25:08):
Very next turns around and gets a pick on the
same play, right, So that willingness to learn, I mean,
that's something that you need from a corner. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (25:16):
Absolutely. You know. One of the other things about this defense.
Speaker 1 (25:19):
It's really kind of stuck with me as we watched
this thing early in the season, like how well they're playing.
But you have one first round pick and the starters
that's patser ten. You've got six guys that are Day
three or undrafted picks that are out there starting on
this defense right now, and that really speaks to me.
It talks a lot about first of all, the Broncos
scouting staff and how they're able to evaluate players, and
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then second of all, how these players are making the
most of opportunity.
Speaker 3 (25:44):
Well and especially making the most of playing with Patrick,
Sir Tam you know, I mean, he allows you to
put a baseball shift on against the offense. And I
mean to think that justin sanad is starting at linebacker
and they really haven't skipped a beat is something that
only anybody expects to have happened. But I think there's
a I think to your point, Ben, I think the
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gms want to get guys in there who are willing
to study the game and who want to learn the game.
Speaker 6 (26:12):
You can have talented, talented players who do not want
to pay attention.
Speaker 3 (26:16):
To x's and o's, and it might work for them.
But you get five to six hack eleven guys that
are willing to put in that work, you win many games,
and not only that, you improve while winning, which is
a sign of great players and great character in those players.
Speaker 4 (26:31):
Right, is there something schematically that you would like to
see the Broncos explore on Sunday that we haven't seen
thus far.
Speaker 3 (26:40):
Erg I want them to use the tight end.
Speaker 6 (26:42):
I want to put that defense in a grinder. I
want two.
Speaker 3 (26:46):
Tight ends, and I want to put them in a
wing formation on the week side twice. You know what
I mean.
Speaker 6 (26:50):
I just you have to have not only do you have.
Speaker 3 (26:53):
To have the tight ends to do it, but.
Speaker 6 (26:55):
You need your offense and know how.
Speaker 3 (26:57):
Confident it can be when you have.
Speaker 6 (26:59):
That tight end position and not just blocking.
Speaker 3 (27:01):
On all, especially against the blitz, which that's coming for Bonick.
Speaker 6 (27:07):
You say it's a little bit of blitz, but with
the vikings.
Speaker 3 (27:10):
And vance Joseph's defense doing so well in blitzing. I mean,
these teams, the defenses want to be talked about too,
So the blitzes are coming and I'd love to see something.
I'd love to see a six yard pass over the
middle on second to eight, you know what I mean,
and then run it for a first down and on
third down. So that's the kind of place that the
players have to be willing to work in. And to
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be honest, there's thirty percent of the NFL teams this
year they don't got rosters that are willing to grind
it out like that. And that's what you need to do.
If you're the Broncos, you need to teach the young
players and inexperienced players on your team how hard it
is to work and win every single week. And I
think they have a great they're on the right path,
and they're doing things the right way, and they're and
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they're being patient and creating urgency at the same time.
Speaker 1 (27:55):
You know, you mentioned the Broncos and the Vikings, you know,
with the high blitz numbers, and they are. Is that
the modern is that the new blueprint we've seen the
league basically pivot to the Vic Fangio defense, which is
you know that tight front and quarters match on the
back end, and it's dropping everybody back and hoping your
pressure gets home with three or four. And now we're
seeing success with guys like Vance Joseph and Brian Flores
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who are blitzing on Dvance's case forty plus percent of
the time, putting the corners on an island, playing center
field back. There is the league pivoting back to perhaps
the Wade Phillips style of defense.
Speaker 3 (28:27):
Well, that's how bad quarterbacks are right now in the NFL.
I mean, let's be clear. You can blitz your face
off against Tom Brady and you'll lose by fifty. Right.
Do you blitz your face off against Patrick Mahomes, You're
gonna lose by fifty. You do it to Josh Allen,
you're gonna lose by fifty. So I think that this
is I think what people miss is it's great for defenses,
right because if forces offenses to communicate and to study
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and to pay attention to meetings, if you don't do that,
you're gonna get beat, especially.
Speaker 6 (28:54):
In key moments. But it's also indicative of the fact
that there are.
Speaker 3 (28:58):
About five quarterbacks in the NFL that can change the
play at the line of scrimmage and or change a
route to get the guy open against the blitz. So
defenses are having their heyday because they don't have the
same quality across the board as maybe ten years ago
or even five years ago.
Speaker 4 (29:14):
In the NFL, if you're are offensive lineman on le
Broncos roster right now, what would be your words to
bow Knick's pro com What would you say to him
with him being your starting quarterback?
Speaker 3 (29:29):
I love the social media video. Let's make one in January.
That's what I say to him, you know, And I
think that it's so easy, and and Ford you've been
there too. I mean, it's so hard to explain to
people when you are in the NFL and you're winning games,
and you.
Speaker 6 (29:46):
Win your first game at home in front.
Speaker 3 (29:48):
Of the fans, you're on a little streak and go
to the I mean, it's so hard to pay attention
to the bigger goal because it feels so good in
the moment for that week, but you've got to pay
tention to the fact that it's a seventeen game regular
season and that if you want to win, you got
to win nineteen of them. And it's just such a
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monstrous haul. That's what I would say. I would say, Hey,
I'm so thrilled we're winning. Let's make sure we're winning
so that we can win in January too.
Speaker 1 (30:18):
That was Ryan Harris, former Broncos offensive tackle, Super Bowl
champion alumnus of Notre Dame. I want to switch gears
to the college football ranks. I get first of all,
at an eyeball question. See if you know anything about this.
You know about the quarterback from UNLV who with the
nil agreements and decided to take a red shirt.
Speaker 2 (30:37):
It doesn't look like.
Speaker 1 (30:38):
UNLV's missed a beat because they have forty something points
in the first half against Utah State right now.
Speaker 2 (30:42):
As a matter of fact, they've been putting points ever
since he did that.
Speaker 1 (30:45):
That situation perflects me a little bit, because on the
one hand, I want everybody to get the money.
Speaker 2 (30:50):
I want a kid to get his money. Anything that
was promised, I want to get that. And on the
other hand, it felt sort.
Speaker 1 (30:54):
Of like he was quitting on his team, and I
didn't really know what to do with that. I guess
it's the old school of me that doesn't know what
to do with some of this new school.
Speaker 2 (31:00):
In il money.
Speaker 3 (31:03):
Well, lesson learned for the player, right. I mean, look,
there's all kinds of ways to go about business, but
we all understand what it's like to be human. And
clearly that coach told this player that he was going
to get more money than he was. They were winning,
players stepped out to renegotiate. Now the player knows his
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value went down. The price just went down, right.
Speaker 6 (31:26):
So I love that NIL holds coaches.
Speaker 3 (31:28):
Responsible and more enshrines the individual rights of players, right,
because now you can transfer if your coach lies to you.
I know kid who and Berg's got stories too. We
know people who they commit to a school and one
kid I know they after he committed, they told him
to cut all his hair. He couldn't show up on
campus with it, and he couldn't study for the degree
he wanted. It was literally the week later. So NIL
(31:52):
is great get young people introduced to money and contracts
as early as possible so that they make their mistakes
as young as possible. And that quarterback just learned that
he's going to be known for whatever people's opinions are
of him stepping out on this team versus hed he
kept playing and been the starting quarterback of a F
four and oh or five and oh un l VV
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team in Las Vegas and shock in the world and
maybe transferring somewhere next year where he's gonna get some shine.
Speaker 5 (32:20):
As an offensive lineman.
Speaker 4 (32:22):
I got to ask this question, which quarterback would you
love to play for or play with? A guy who
is your premier pocket passer or that guy who has
the ability to manipulate the pocket wants it starts to
break down which guy would you rather block for?
Speaker 3 (32:40):
The third guy, the one who can do both, and
I'm talking about Jaden Daniels and or Patrick Mahomes. I mean,
you need both, you need the What people fail or
remember is that when you have a quarterback that's a
dual threat quarterback that everybody knows what they're gonna do.
They want to run early like a Lamar Jackson, even
though he is a great pocket passers twisted. However, when
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you sing in the pocket, you force the defense to
play its natural pass defense. And the more you can
sit in the pocket, even eight nine times in a row,
the more that they're gonna start doing drop coverages, especially
if you're getting some yards and first down through the pass.
But if you don't have a guy that can break
out in those team moments and still get a downfield.
You're gonna lose a lot of football games. So I'll
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take the guys that can do both. I'm gonna throw I'm.
Speaker 6 (33:24):
Gonna throw Josh Allen on that list too.
Speaker 3 (33:25):
Now, I don't put it. He's earned that too. So
I'm the three guys in the NFL who can do
it right now. I'll take those three because they can
do both.
Speaker 1 (33:32):
I'm with you, man, Hey, Ryan, we really appreciate you
taking some time out for us tonight and joining us.
Speaker 2 (33:36):
We always appreciate having you on the show.
Speaker 3 (33:38):
Brother Bell as fun as always, peace.
Speaker 1 (33:41):
Yep, take care Ryan Harris super Bowl winning offensive tackle
for your Denver Broncos.
Speaker 2 (33:46):
And always enjoy his insights on everything you enjoy.
Speaker 1 (33:49):
Listen to him call games too, does a great job
with that you and you and him now are the
same fraternity there calling games there, mister, if you please.
Speaker 4 (33:56):
Well, Ryan has a little more experience than I doing
to enjoy listening to him.
Speaker 5 (34:01):
Uh, And it's great, you know, to be in the booth.
For me, it was with the Rick Lewis and Dave Logan.
I really enjoyed it. So it was a hell of
an experience.
Speaker 1 (34:10):
Yeah, I you know, I enjoyed listening til we had
it on. I was over in the Sweet. We had
it on the Sweet, so I could hear you guys,
you were in the suite. I was in the Sweet.
Speaker 2 (34:17):
Well, why are you tell me that you were in
the booth. I didn't need to tell you that.
Speaker 5 (34:20):
I mean, at some point I had to come out
of the booth. But you didn't tell me you were
in a suit.
Speaker 2 (34:24):
No, you needed to know that comes up. I thought
you were coming this week. I had to know, all right,
you didn't disclosing the site. Okay, sweet, all right, but
let me he.
Speaker 5 (34:33):
Didn't tell me. What's sweet? You notice he told.
Speaker 4 (34:36):
Me he would be in us, I said the.
Speaker 2 (34:42):
Keeping it deliberately vague for the air wish. Now I'll
get you the info.
Speaker 1 (34:45):
You did have a question on the text line, did
Ben get his khaki suit? I have not got the
khaki suit, but I do have a special suit for
this weekend, and.
Speaker 2 (34:56):
It is in charge of Yellow. We're running it.
Speaker 1 (34:57):
We're still running the jicks because every time I've worn
the teams colors, Broncas have won the opposing team's colors.
The Bronks won, So we're running the reverse jinks with
a charger yellow suit this weekend.
Speaker 5 (35:07):
Okay, I'm here.
Speaker 2 (35:08):
For that one. I'm keeping the junks alive.
Speaker 5 (35:11):
Man, Is it yellow? Is it like canary yellow?
Speaker 1 (35:14):
It's like a it's like a chargers powder yellow charges
powdered powdered blue.
Speaker 2 (35:18):
But it's never powdered yellow. It's more of a powdered yellow.
You'll see what I mean. I also have the powdered
blue pocket square chack.
Speaker 5 (35:26):
I'll see on Saturday.
Speaker 2 (35:27):
I'll check you. I'm jinking this happened. Broncos Country to Night.
You can't wait
Wellcome do it Broncos Country tonight. But with all Brian Dick, Ferguson,
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Grant Smith five six sixty nine zeros.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
The text line, We're gonna do the NFL six pack
here in just a few minutes. Do a little early.
Speaker 1 (00:08):
Had to switch them things around in order to make
sure we could accommodate our our guy. Ryan Hasse will
join us in the next segment. Thanks to Zach for
helping out with the Pickham segment there as well. Let's
get too without any further ado your NFL six pack.
Speaker 2 (00:20):
It is time for the NFL sick Path.
Speaker 3 (00:24):
I'm gonna train a lot of beer, insight and insight
information you can't find anywhere else.
Speaker 4 (00:29):
No.
Speaker 2 (00:30):
Six the top six NFL headlines.
Speaker 1 (00:33):
What Last November twentieth, the Buffalo Bills beat the Jets
thirty two to six at high Mark Stadium chippy fourth quarter,
there was a skirmish of the tunnel leaving the field
between the Bills offensive tackle d On Dawkins and Jets
defensive end Michael Clemens.
Speaker 2 (00:47):
In the locker room after the game, Dawkins had some.
Speaker 1 (00:49):
Choice words for the Jets and I'm not a fan, man,
I'm not a fan of the Jets very disrespectful players.
But then he took an unusual shot at Jets defensive
line coach Aaron Whitecotton, saying, quote, there's a lot of
emotion guys over there, very emotional guys, even their d
line coach, very emotional.
Speaker 2 (01:04):
Unmanly.
Speaker 1 (01:05):
Calling another team's assistant coach unmanly is not something you
hear very often. Kind of a bizarre comment to make
about another team's assistant coach. That should be noted that
white Cotton was an assistant in Buffalo from twenty seventeen
to twenty nineteen Dawkins first three years with the Bills,
so they do know each other. White Cotton, who has
been the Jets defensive line coaches twenty twenty one. It's
pretty highly regarded and popular with his players.
Speaker 2 (01:27):
What do you think about, Yeah, Dawkins calling.
Speaker 1 (01:29):
Another team's coach unmanly and does that add a little
fuel to the Monday night fire.
Speaker 5 (01:35):
I've never heard that before.
Speaker 4 (01:37):
I've heard of the players refer to coaches and other
derogats or ways. That's brand new, But yes, does it
add a little fuels to the game between the Bills
and the Jets At so freaking Litely.
Speaker 5 (01:50):
And that's the visional game.
Speaker 1 (01:53):
You think that d Lion is gonna want to like
get a little cheap shot on Dawkins.
Speaker 4 (01:57):
I'm sure, because that's what guys do. I mean, that's
what it's called playing the game between the game, or
as I learned from a defensive player, you played the
game between the listeners.
Speaker 1 (02:09):
There you go neave a little maybe a little cut
action when he's not looking.
Speaker 4 (02:12):
I mean, it's not like a cut action, and it's
just like, hey, buddy, I'm here.
Speaker 5 (02:16):
I'm just letting you know I'm here.
Speaker 2 (02:17):
Okay, that's all.
Speaker 1 (02:18):
So not gonna be like John Franklin Myers and Bill
parm poking each other in the eyes.
Speaker 5 (02:22):
No, that's not gonna be any pokey in the eyes.
Speaker 4 (02:24):
But I can't promise you that's not gonna happen underneath
the pot.
Speaker 1 (02:27):
Captain Ensano shows no mercy two.
Speaker 5 (02:33):
No injury designation for Justin Herbert.
Speaker 2 (02:35):
Joey Bolsa and Rayshawn Slater are questionable.
Speaker 1 (02:37):
Chargers quarterback Justin Herbert moved up to full practice participation
on Friday. The team has no doubt about his availability
for Sunday's game against the Broncos. Herbert has no designation here.
His ankle the Week three left the game, but played
against the Chiefs a week four used to buy we
took it close to full health remains to be seen
if left tackle Rayshawn Slater will.
Speaker 2 (02:54):
Be available to protect him.
Speaker 1 (02:55):
Slater was limited by a pectoral injury all week still
listed as questionable. Ed rusher Joey and his hip return
to practice on Friday is also this is questionable. Cornerback
Christiane Fulton as a knee, corner Dan Leonard as a hamstring,
and linebacker Ncnieban as a hamstring round out the group
of players in that group. Running back Gus Edwards, corner
Sante Samuel Junior, corner just Heir Taylor have all.
Speaker 2 (03:17):
Been ruled out.
Speaker 1 (03:19):
As the Chargers come limping into this thing, I know
I've been cautious about it being physical, but then you
look at how depleted that roster is and that's something else.
Speaker 5 (03:27):
Well it is And I know you've been talking about.
Speaker 4 (03:29):
Physicality, but how physical will this team be With some
of their marquee players a little banged up? This is
a good, excellent opportunity for the Broncos to take advantage
all of the Chargers and do that, and do it
as a physical standard.
Speaker 5 (03:44):
They should. I truly believe that.
Speaker 4 (03:47):
I mean, look, Davante has been well, doing well from
the passing game and the one game standpoint. Why not
double down with a short week against the Why not?
Speaker 2 (03:59):
I'm not a fun Yes.
Speaker 3 (04:01):
Sorry.
Speaker 2 (04:02):
Last night, the NFL.
Speaker 1 (04:03):
Blew a call on the muff of a punt by
the Seahawks. The league admitted the mistake.
Speaker 2 (04:07):
Today.
Speaker 1 (04:08):
Fordnite's coach Kyle Shanahan was asked whether he received an
apology from the league office, and she had a head
sold reporters. No, you don't get any apologies. Apologies aren't
that big of a deal. Once it happens, you got
to move on with your life. Apologies don't make it better.
I'm just glad it all worked out and moved on.
The league and their transparency here, I think is a
little bit refreshing. It helps that the forty nine as
still want to end covered to spread that. As explained
by the NFL, the key angle from Amazon Prime game
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production did not arrive until after the replay process resulted
in a ruling that the ball had not touched Seahawks part.
Speaker 2 (04:37):
Return Dee Williams.
Speaker 1 (04:38):
It should have been San Francisco's ball because the angle
that showed up too late showed the ball touching Williams's finger.
Of course, it was easy for the league to admit
the mistake when in the same breath it blames a
broadcast partner for it. The deeper question is where the
league should be relying on network televising the game or
have its own array of cameras to determing these kinds
of things. In Week one, NBC you f had a
key shot of Ravens tight end Isaiah like this so
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clearly and obviously on the white line in the back
of the end zone, wiping out what could have been
a two point try game winning touchdown at Kidsa City
on Opening night. That game had been within the cluster
of one pm Eastern games, fewer camera angles would have
been deployed by the networks and you.
Speaker 2 (05:11):
Might not change the outcome of the game.
Speaker 1 (05:13):
Leagues should have static cameras the blanket the field at
every stadium.
Speaker 2 (05:16):
People like Bill Belichick had argued for it for years.
Speaker 1 (05:18):
The only apparent reason for not doing this is, frankly,
an unwillingness to spend the money. Seahawks had won last
night's game or covered the spread after that this month,
there could have been plenty of pressure for the NFL
to peel off some of that money that they make,
can do the right thing they should have done years ago.
Speaker 4 (05:31):
Wait a minute, the league makes billions of dollars. They
got games billions, Yes, games on Peacock, games on Amazon.
Speaker 5 (05:39):
I mean they plan.
Speaker 4 (05:40):
You have to pay an arm in the leg to
watch the YouTube for directing what direct to.
Speaker 5 (05:44):
B used to be.
Speaker 4 (05:45):
So they had the money for what do you mean
you can't get the technology to understand? Yes, that was
clearly the San Francisco forty nine ers ball.
Speaker 5 (05:54):
I mean, look, I don't have the technology.
Speaker 1 (05:56):
That they have, but even I knew that ben Nick
Ferguson's eyes been any four kkn does exactly.
Speaker 5 (06:02):
I saw that in full.
Speaker 2 (06:04):
Gay.
Speaker 1 (06:05):
I'm with you on this said, I do believe the
league needs to there's some things they need to do.
I think digital chains there's something the league needs to
look into. I do believe they need to be televising
the replay process and they definitely need more camera angles
in there. If you're going to allow people to wager
on this stuff, you have to have it clean and
above board because if you have a situation like that
and hundreds of thousands of dollars change hands, people change
hands on that, and you're eventually going to ruin the
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product when people believe the integrity of the product is
not there.
Speaker 4 (06:28):
But I thought that was the goal to keep the
idea of the integrity intact it is.
Speaker 2 (06:34):
And so that's what they need to do. They need
to start putting those cameras in.
Speaker 1 (06:36):
So if they can do that, because you know, if
they don't, they get something wrong.
Speaker 4 (06:39):
What would have happened if the forty nine ers would
have lost that game?
Speaker 1 (06:42):
I think that what you I think you'd had a
lot of people that were talking about, hey, wait a minute,
you know we've got this replay or something that went
the wrong way. People would be less likely to wager
on it. You're revenue stream start drying up?
Speaker 4 (06:54):
Would that mean that you know the league was started
sending out stimulus checks, like I said, refund checks.
Speaker 2 (06:59):
Yes, I'm just saying four.
Speaker 1 (07:01):
Last year, ABC televised all the Monday night football.
Speaker 2 (07:04):
Games due to Hollywood work stoppages.
Speaker 1 (07:08):
This year, ABC's adding more simulcasts because frankly, pro football
performs better than anything Hollywood can create Via the Associated Press.
Six more games will be televised by ESPN and ABC.
The extra games will happen on October twenty first Ravens Bucks,
November fourth, Bucks at Chiefs, November eighteenth Texans Cowboys, number
twenty fifth Ravens at Chargers, and December twenty third, Saints
at Packers. In other words, ABC will have a Monday
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night game every week for the rest of the regular season,
except November eleventh, that's Dolphins at Rams and December second
that's the Browns here at Broncos.
Speaker 2 (07:38):
The move is all about ratings.
Speaker 1 (07:39):
It's good for Disney, which owns both ABC ADESPN, for
the NFL benefits for the lower audience that it hurts
NFL's broadcast partners NBC, CBS and Fox, which now face
stiffer three letter competition on Monday nights. What do you
guys think about the ABC simulcasts the.
Speaker 2 (07:57):
On Monday night football.
Speaker 4 (07:59):
I don't really like that because you're your own direct
competitive and for me, it divides the audience.
Speaker 5 (08:07):
Now most people now.
Speaker 4 (08:09):
If you equipped, you have pictuer and pitcher, or you're
able to have multiple televisions going at one particular time.
Speaker 5 (08:15):
But for me, I don't like when the league gets
into that.
Speaker 4 (08:18):
I want to be able to sit there and focus
on one game and dissect the game, because in my
household they don't watch television.
Speaker 2 (08:26):
Which, so is it the exact same broadcast. It's just
Joe Buck and Troy Aikman on ESPN and ABC.
Speaker 5 (08:34):
They do the same thing with the Maning cast.
Speaker 2 (08:36):
Yeah, I mean that's different. That's like the Manning cast
and versus this is.
Speaker 1 (08:40):
I mean, which, by the way, the numbers for all
the people who say they love the Manning cast, it
really must be only those people ever talking about our social.
Speaker 2 (08:47):
Ratings for they're terrible. But like the the that's the thing,
and this is just.
Speaker 1 (08:51):
The same broadcast on multiple networks and sort of splits
the audience between multiple channels. We had something like that here.
We used to broadcast games on the Fox and KOA.
Now we just just do it all on.
Speaker 2 (08:59):
Ko I don't really have a problem with it as
far as that goes.
Speaker 1 (09:04):
My problem is more with the double headers they have
on Monday night.
Speaker 2 (09:07):
They have two games on Monday Night, Like, what are
we doing here?
Speaker 1 (09:10):
We're now we really are competing against ourselves.
Speaker 3 (09:12):
Oh, you know.
Speaker 4 (09:12):
The idea is it's the art of the double dip right,
even though we know we shouldn't double dip the chip.
The league is double dipping because two games more advertising dollars.
Speaker 1 (09:22):
Should we be insulted or not that the Broncos are
one of two games that don't.
Speaker 2 (09:25):
Get this treatment.
Speaker 1 (09:27):
I think it's a I mean, I understand it even
as a process fan.
Speaker 2 (09:31):
I mean, the Brown's the way they're playing right now.
Who wants to see them on a Monday night? Fair enough?
Speaker 1 (09:37):
Five five days and Atlanta just after four pm Easter
on a Friday.
Speaker 2 (09:41):
But the NFL and NFLPA should a joint statement defending.
Speaker 1 (09:45):
The process that allowed Bill's quarterback Josh Allen to return
to action a fourth quarter Week five game against the
Texans after striking his head on the ground and appearing
to be in some degree of distress.
Speaker 2 (09:54):
He missed two minutes and thirty.
Speaker 1 (09:55):
Seconds of game time, six minutes six seconds of real time.
Someone offered Allen smelling before he re entered the game.
The statement was issued to Tom Pelisero of NFL Network,
and as far as we could tell, it wasn't widely
distributed because almost nobody got an except Tom. The NFL
and NFLPA have reviewed the reports of the unaffiliated neurotrauma
consultant and Boost Spotters, and those reports confirmed that the
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steps required by the concussion protocol were followed and the
evaluation and clearance of Bill's quarterback Josh Allen and last
Sundays game protocol has been jointly developed or the administered
Pelisero added a supplement which isn't in the statement saying quote.
Both the league and union reviewed video of the play
came to the same conclusion as the unaffiliated neurotrauma consultant,
Boots Spotters, and team medical staff that there was no
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loss of consciousness. Loss of consciousness obviously isn't a threshold
for removal from play, but the concern was and still is,
whether the evaluation was performed slowly and deliberately enough to
come to a conclusion that Allan should have had a
locker room evaluation or that he shouldn't have returned. The
late John Madden advocated for patients imprudence with players who
are suspected of suffering concussions. League and Union contented ulus
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the process that will both permit and five days later
ratify what we saw on Sunday.
Speaker 2 (11:03):
I don't know if you guys saw this. I saw
that play. To me, it looked like he had a concussion.
Speaker 1 (11:07):
Now again, I'm not a licensed medical professional. I am
someone who has suffered a concussion, and I can spot
the symptoms thereof you.
Speaker 4 (11:16):
Don't have to be a neurologist to know when someone
is cancutting.
Speaker 2 (11:19):
Well, I'm not a chef, and I know what a
bad stake tation exactly.
Speaker 5 (11:22):
I'm going to college.
Speaker 4 (11:23):
I've seen guys getting tussles.
Speaker 5 (11:25):
And at the bar and gett knocked out. I didn't
need on here neurologists to know that dude is out cold.
Josh Allen was out cold.
Speaker 2 (11:33):
Yeah, you could tell, Yes, you could tell that.
Speaker 4 (11:35):
To me, this was wrong by the league and the
union who continues to push for better health for players.
To me, he said, not have been allowed to return
to that football game.
Speaker 2 (11:46):
And Ben, you know what a bad steak looks like,
looks like rue Chris go to shoe leather. Dick Ferguson says,
I like that, extremely well done. Please, but you send
me a plate of ash. That would be great. A
little ridiculous. We've got we've gotta get get you on
the rare steak thing. It just has to happen.
Speaker 3 (12:07):
Six.
Speaker 2 (12:08):
Sam Hartman wasn't gone from Washington for long.
Speaker 1 (12:11):
Hartman was waived by the commanders yesterday, cleared waivers today
re signed with Washington's practice squad.
Speaker 2 (12:17):
Hartman was the odd man out in.
Speaker 1 (12:18):
Washington when Marcus Mariota was declared one hundred percent healthy
and the Commander's decided they no longer needed four quarterbacks
from their fifty three man roster. We thought carrying three
in Denver was a lot. The depth chart now consisted
of Jayden Daniels starting, Marionta backing him up, and Yes,
Jeff the Sundial Driscoll as the third quarterback, nicknamed the
sun Dial because the processor in his head when viewing
the field is akin to roughly a sun dial. The
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Commanders think Hartman has promised, perhaps to be number two
behind Daniels someday. I ain't gonna keep developing him. In
the meantime, he'll just be that guy with fabulous hair.
Speaker 4 (12:49):
Well, I'll say this, he does have fabulous hair and
a beard to boot. But I think this is the
right thing that Adam Peters is doing because they are
projecting in the future. Obviously, Jane Dames is the guy
but Marcus Mariota is not one of those guys who
are going to be a plug and player. He is
just there to mentor Jane Dames to get him through
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the rough matches, which is even as though Daves is
doing a great job himself. But having Hartman there, obviously
you need a guy at the number two spot.
Speaker 5 (13:20):
In Hartman and Prudebut.
Speaker 1 (13:21):
I'm still trying to figure out why Jef Driscoll is
on that roster, as the Bengals converted him to a
wide receiver, the Texans made him a tight end, and
now he's back as a quarterback and third string backup.
We all saw his action here in Denver, where I
believe he lasted a few quarters after throwing a couple
of interceptions to the Buccaneers.
Speaker 2 (13:37):
Not good, Bob, Yeah, not good.
Speaker 3 (13:39):
Well.
Speaker 4 (13:39):
Usually in the realm of football, we normally say, if
a guy's in that situation, he must have pictures.
Speaker 1 (13:45):
Though some day, Yeah, they got some dirt, They got
some dirt on that staff somewhere. We need to touch
our guy Pagatto and figure out what's going on.
Speaker 2 (13:50):
That's the NFL six pack. Always love getting to run that.
Ryan Harris is.
Speaker 1 (13:55):
Going to join us here in just a few minutes
on the other side as well.
Speaker 2 (14:00):
Nick, before we get to Ryan anything, any.
Speaker 1 (14:02):
Other thoughts you want to get into on this Broncos
Chargers game. I still believe the Broncos are gonna win,
but as the week has gone on, I've gotten a
little bit more, a little bit more case of the
tight cheeks here as I worry about worry about that team.
Speaker 4 (14:17):
Well, hey, man, keep your tight cheeks and your tight
jeans to yourself. I know that the Chargers have played
great defense in the first two weeks, and when you
look at the average scores, they lost game spot, it's
been pretty close. So I can understand why you feel
that way. But I go back to the fact of
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knowing that Joey.
Speaker 5 (14:38):
Bosa really finishes games.
Speaker 4 (14:41):
He's coming in with the hip injury, so he's not
going to be full speed, right. And then also you
lose Santi Samuel Junior, who is the key part of
that secondary. So if coach Payton can expose that by
using either there I say, Troy Franklin or Arvin Mims Junior,
now you have an opportunity because you are able to
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take shots down the field.
Speaker 5 (15:06):
But will it actually happen, and I don't know.
Speaker 2 (15:10):
That is the big question.
Speaker 1 (15:11):
I really do believe that in order to win this game,
first of all, you need to get out to a
lead and force the Chargers to play from behind. And
then one of the other things I do want to
see is I do want them to try some things out.
Speaker 2 (15:21):
I do want them to try some shots.
Speaker 1 (15:23):
I do want them to start to figure out the
vertical aspect of this offense, because as they continue to go.
Speaker 2 (15:29):
Horizontal, this thing is going to be predictable.
Speaker 1 (15:33):
It's going to be something that defenses camp on and
it's going to make it more difficult to do the
things that Bonnicks does well around the line of scrimmage
and with the horizontal game.
Speaker 4 (15:41):
But this is why, based on the past two weeks
what Davonte has been able to do, this would be
an excellent opportunity for play action. And what I'm visualizing
in my mind, I don't know if it's going to happen.
What I'm visualizing is almost like Jake Plummer. I have
boot Row stop fold the ball down the field because
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we know from the second level to the back end
the charges are going.
Speaker 5 (16:07):
To be aggressive.
Speaker 4 (16:08):
They're coming downhill Darwin James is going to be somewhere
around the box where there's a cover two look and
he's dropping inside.
Speaker 5 (16:16):
But that will allow the Broncos.
Speaker 4 (16:18):
To take advantage both the middle of the field and
I'm going to say the outside of the field as well.
Speaker 1 (16:23):
Yeah, I think that. I think you're right. You know,
a strong run game like they've had last two weeks,
he's definitely going to help out with with building that
pass game.
Speaker 2 (16:30):
I just you know, I want to see it, you know.
And again, I think we would be having.
Speaker 1 (16:34):
A wildly different conversation and a different confidence level if
Troy Franklin hung on to that ball and they score
that touchdown.
Speaker 2 (16:41):
We're all talking about how Boat gets it.
Speaker 1 (16:42):
He's able to make those passes, and he made the pass,
it just wasn't caught. But I think the conversation and
the narratives are probably different at that point.
Speaker 4 (16:49):
Well here's the biggest narrative. Even though Troy did not
catch the pass. Now, the other defenses around the league,
they know that the Broncos have the capability and.
Speaker 5 (17:00):
They will take that shot. So it is enough to
back them off.
Speaker 4 (17:03):
But all the Broncos need to do is have one
attempt to start out the game, and it's gonna back.
Speaker 1 (17:09):
The Charges off and that's what Let's let's go first
play of the game. Chuck it deep, Barvin Mims put
them on the bang nine. Let's let's just let it
rip right there off the bat.
Speaker 5 (17:16):
Yeah, and even if he doesn't catch it, guess what
you do.
Speaker 4 (17:19):
You put Mams in that same position, flip the formation,
have him run deep, and guess what they're gonna have
to do.
Speaker 5 (17:24):
They're gonna have to back.
Speaker 2 (17:25):
The hell off.
Speaker 1 (17:25):
Yeah, keep those safeties back and allow you to kind
of work the underneath.
Speaker 2 (17:29):
I'm I'm definitely here for it. I'm looking forward to that.
This weekend.
Speaker 1 (17:32):
We got Ryan Harris coming up next right, you're on
KA listen Broncos Country to Night. We go right after
the Kaway Common Spirit Health Hotline and bring on our guy,
Ryan Harris.
Speaker 2 (17:42):
Ryan, how are you doing this evening?
Speaker 3 (17:44):
That is doing great? Thanks for having me.
Speaker 2 (17:46):
Absolutely man, and I always love having you on.
Speaker 1 (17:48):
We got a got a tough game coming up here
against the a reeling injured Chargers team. But you look
at the Charges how they played this year. They've been physical,
They've run the ball incredibly well. JK Dobbins averaging an
absurd six yards per CA. As we look at this,
the Broncos got a couple of injuries along that offensive line.
It's set a position at the right tackle position going
into this division game. What do you think about about
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the lines for both these teams?
Speaker 3 (18:13):
Well, I think the.
Speaker 6 (18:14):
Big challenge is going to be on the.
Speaker 3 (18:15):
Broncos defensive line. No question.
Speaker 6 (18:18):
The Broncos defense has been able to get after the pass.
Speaker 3 (18:21):
And being able to defend against it with the secondary,
but you are going to get a consistent doseph run
and JK. Dobbins has that high average because they will
run the ball thirty five thirty times a game and
not a lot of players want to sit in there.
Berg will tell you not a lot of defenders want
to sit and MCA.
Speaker 6 (18:42):
So that's what the challenge is for the Broncos defensively.
Can they stop the run? And if I'm the vance Joseph,
now I'm looking at this as a huge opportunity to
make up for last year's you.
Speaker 3 (18:54):
Know, big loss against Miami by shutting down the Chargers
and getting a second consecutive division and a win based
on the strength of your defense and helping and helping
your while you're off.
Speaker 1 (19:08):
I think we lost Ryan there. We'll see if we
can't get that connection back. But yeah, I mean he
was making a point there for one of the big things.
One of the one of the tough things about facing
a physical, smash mouth running team like that is is
having to be in there every play for the run.
Speaker 4 (19:21):
Well, the one thing you want to do from a
defensive standpoint is make sure that everyone is on the
same page. And I am of a friend of mine
that defenders need to know where the run fits need
to be. You can figure out the past though, but
if you can't fit up on the run.
Speaker 2 (19:35):
But even more, we saw that against Man. I think
we got Ryan back.
Speaker 3 (19:37):
Now, Ryan you're there, I'm here, you got me there?
Speaker 2 (19:40):
Yeah, I gotcha. No, no worries at all.
Speaker 1 (19:42):
Man, Uh you you were cut off there or toward
the end of your answer, do you want to finish
that one out?
Speaker 6 (19:47):
Well, I'm just saying that you know that defense, the
challenges on.
Speaker 3 (19:49):
The defense to stop the run and really put themselves
on the map as one of the best defenses in
the league.
Speaker 4 (19:55):
Well, let's talk about the offensive line, because you have
Luke Wattenberg, who who is injured and Pochesky who has
an injury himself, as a guy that played on the
offensive line, how difficult is it to go into a
game like this with this magnitude. It's a divisional game
and we're talking about you're playing against a Chargers defensive
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line that's been playing pretty well thus far this season.
Speaker 3 (20:19):
Well, don't play if you want to hide, that's the
first part, right. I mean, if you are not looking
for this opportunity, then you got the wrong guys on
your offensive line. So it's not good to have injuries.
I think Alex Kelcewski played fantastic while he was in
but that means that somebody else is going to get
an opportunity, right, I Mean we won the Super Bowl
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and Matt Parodis hadn't started a game yet and then
ended up starting nineteen in a row and win the
Super Bowl.
Speaker 6 (20:45):
So offensive line is.
Speaker 3 (20:47):
The easiest place to make good players great if you
have technique taught at a consistent level. And so that's
Zach Street's going to have his work cut out for
him this week. And if the players are being pros,
they're gonna ask questions. That's the biggest thing any one
of us can do in a situation where we have
opportunity is ask questions to make sure you know it
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inside and out. Nobody's gonna get mad at you for
trying to find out as much information as you can
so you can play, or you can act, or you can.
Speaker 6 (21:15):
Do as fast as.
Speaker 3 (21:16):
You can to complete the objective.
Speaker 2 (21:18):
Broncos have started the season three and two. How surprised
are you by that?
Speaker 1 (21:23):
And as you look ahead to this second quarter of
the season, you don't want to overlook anybody, but this
thing is setting up pretty nice for the Broncos to
get to the halfway mark with a decent chance at
a winning record or better.
Speaker 3 (21:36):
Well, I'm not surprised because I got to see bow
Knicks play last year at Oregon when USC was there,
and I saw he had all the talent, and I
know that, you know, coach Payton has an offensive mind.
I've seen that that skill, the play calling. So it's
not as surprising, but surprising as they won two games
up to spending two weeks with each other. I mean,
I don't know if you guys could do that on
the show, right, if you had to lock yourselves away
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for two weeks and then get together and do a
good show. You might be tired of each other they're
up there in Virginia, but they put it together and
they're learning that to win, you have to play together
and for each other. And that's not a surprise because
the game of football teaches you to do that.
Speaker 4 (22:11):
As a guy who is the number one receiver for
the Broncos and as Courtland said, we haven't really seen
Courtland involved in the offense that much.
Speaker 5 (22:21):
What do you think is the reason as to want
that hasn't happened.
Speaker 3 (22:28):
We'll say it again one more time. Sorry, you talk
broke up there.
Speaker 4 (22:31):
Brother Corland sudden supposed to be the number one wide
receiver for the Denver Broncos and we haven't really seen
him involved in the Broncos offense. Why do you think
that is the case? And what do you think they
should do to change that?
Speaker 3 (22:45):
Their bracket coveraging him because they know that's where Bonix
wants to go with the football anytime he doesn't know
what he's looking at. And offensively, you got to be
prepared for that. And Josh Reynolds has to step up.
He did last week. Let's see it again. You know,
you got to find some production at the tight end position,
it has to happen for an offense. You can't shoot
yourself in the foot like that, and you got to
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convert on third down. But Corland Sutton, you know, he
has turned a corner this year. His routes, his want to,
his willingness, all of the things that you want your
receiver to be he has. He just doesn't have anybody
anywhere else on the field that's a pass catching threat
that's consistent enough to get him to at least get
man coverage.
Speaker 6 (23:24):
Thirty percent of the time.
Speaker 1 (23:26):
Well to that end, and I completely agree with you
in the tight end position. Why are we not using
our perhaps most explosive athlete in Marvin Mims. More, we've
got Troy Franklin out there, guy who struggled a little
bit in the in the preseason in camp both beating
the press and with you know, I with drops. So
we saw the drop of a well placed Bonix pass
a deep ball in the Raiders game.
Speaker 2 (23:45):
But Marvin Mims, who is I.
Speaker 1 (23:48):
Don't think it's even debatable that he's our most explosive
athlete can't find the field well.
Speaker 3 (23:54):
To be honest, I think it's a situation where you
have a very calm demeanor of soft spoken player and
sometimes in an environment like the NFL, that's seen as
maybe disinterested board or with an attitude. But you know,
Mems is an amazing person in addition to being a
great player and with speed. But I think his demeanor
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makes it so the coaches don't trust trust him as
much or know what to do with them in the
same time, so it's an opportunity for him to show
up every day at the right mindset and and show
the coaches that he wants to be there. And I
think his time's coming. You know, he's a little bit
more straight line speed than you need in an offense,
but I think he's willing to do the work to improve.
Speaker 4 (24:36):
Well, speaking of a guy who is stepping up to
and living up to the bill Riley Moss. Now Ben
has coined a difference a name for Roley Moss and
Ben you call.
Speaker 2 (24:48):
You got ps two and next Moss three sixty.
Speaker 4 (24:50):
So watching Roley come of age, what have you thought
about his style of play up to this point?
Speaker 6 (24:57):
Well, I love that Riley Moss made the improvement week.
Speaker 3 (25:01):
After week, right, I mean the two weeks ago he's
against the Jets. He gives up the.
Speaker 6 (25:06):
Pass interference late in the game and then the.
Speaker 3 (25:08):
Very next turns around and gets a pick on the
same play, right, So that willingness to learn, I mean,
that's something that you need from a corner. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (25:16):
Absolutely. You know. One of the other things about this defense.
Speaker 1 (25:19):
It's really kind of stuck with me as we watched
this thing early in the season, like how well they're playing.
But you have one first round pick and the starters
that's patser ten. You've got six guys that are Day
three or undrafted picks that are out there starting on
this defense right now, and that really speaks to me.
It talks a lot about first of all, the Broncos
scouting staff and how they're able to evaluate players, and
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then second of all, how these players are making the
most of opportunity.
Speaker 3 (25:44):
Well and especially making the most of playing with Patrick,
Sir Tam you know, I mean, he allows you to
put a baseball shift on against the offense. And I
mean to think that justin sanad is starting at linebacker
and they really haven't skipped a beat is something that
only anybody expects to have happened. But I think there's
a I think to your point, Ben, I think the
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gms want to get guys in there who are willing
to study the game and who want to learn the game.
Speaker 6 (26:12):
You can have talented, talented players who do not want
to pay attention.
Speaker 3 (26:16):
To x's and o's, and it might work for them.
But you get five to six hack eleven guys that
are willing to put in that work, you win many games,
and not only that, you improve while winning, which is
a sign of great players and great character in those players.
Speaker 4 (26:31):
Right, is there something schematically that you would like to
see the Broncos explore on Sunday that we haven't seen
thus far.
Speaker 3 (26:40):
Erg I want them to use the tight end.
Speaker 6 (26:42):
I want to put that defense in a grinder. I
want two.
Speaker 3 (26:46):
Tight ends, and I want to put them in a
wing formation on the week side twice. You know what
I mean.
Speaker 6 (26:50):
I just you have to have not only do you have.
Speaker 3 (26:53):
To have the tight ends to do it, but.
Speaker 6 (26:55):
You need your offense and know how.
Speaker 3 (26:57):
Confident it can be when you have.
Speaker 6 (26:59):
That tight end position and not just blocking.
Speaker 3 (27:01):
On all, especially against the blitz, which that's coming for Bonick.
Speaker 6 (27:07):
You say it's a little bit of blitz, but with
the vikings.
Speaker 3 (27:10):
And vance Joseph's defense doing so well in blitzing. I mean,
these teams, the defenses want to be talked about too,
So the blitzes are coming and I'd love to see something.
I'd love to see a six yard pass over the
middle on second to eight, you know what I mean,
and then run it for a first down and on
third down. So that's the kind of place that the
players have to be willing to work in. And to
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be honest, there's thirty percent of the NFL teams this
year they don't got rosters that are willing to grind
it out like that. And that's what you need to do.
If you're the Broncos, you need to teach the young
players and inexperienced players on your team how hard it
is to work and win every single week. And I
think they have a great they're on the right path,
and they're doing things the right way, and they're and
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they're being patient and creating urgency at the same time.
Speaker 1 (27:55):
You know, you mentioned the Broncos and the Vikings, you know,
with the high blitz numbers, and they are. Is that
the modern is that the new blueprint we've seen the
league basically pivot to the Vic Fangio defense, which is
you know that tight front and quarters match on the
back end, and it's dropping everybody back and hoping your
pressure gets home with three or four. And now we're
seeing success with guys like Vance Joseph and Brian Flores
(28:17):
who are blitzing on Dvance's case forty plus percent of
the time, putting the corners on an island, playing center
field back. There is the league pivoting back to perhaps
the Wade Phillips style of defense.
Speaker 3 (28:27):
Well, that's how bad quarterbacks are right now in the NFL.
I mean, let's be clear. You can blitz your face
off against Tom Brady and you'll lose by fifty. Right.
Do you blitz your face off against Patrick Mahomes, You're
gonna lose by fifty. You do it to Josh Allen,
you're gonna lose by fifty. So I think that this
is I think what people miss is it's great for defenses,
right because if forces offenses to communicate and to study
(28:51):
and to pay attention to meetings, if you don't do that,
you're gonna get beat, especially.
Speaker 6 (28:54):
In key moments. But it's also indicative of the fact
that there are.
Speaker 3 (28:58):
About five quarterbacks in the NFL that can change the
play at the line of scrimmage and or change a
route to get the guy open against the blitz. So
defenses are having their heyday because they don't have the
same quality across the board as maybe ten years ago
or even five years ago.
Speaker 4 (29:14):
In the NFL, if you're are offensive lineman on le
Broncos roster right now, what would be your words to
bow Knick's pro com What would you say to him
with him being your starting quarterback?
Speaker 3 (29:29):
I love the social media video. Let's make one in January.
That's what I say to him, you know, And I
think that it's so easy, and and Ford you've been
there too. I mean, it's so hard to explain to
people when you are in the NFL and you're winning games,
and you.
Speaker 6 (29:46):
Win your first game at home in front.
Speaker 3 (29:48):
Of the fans, you're on a little streak and go
to the I mean, it's so hard to pay attention
to the bigger goal because it feels so good in
the moment for that week, but you've got to pay
tention to the fact that it's a seventeen game regular
season and that if you want to win, you got
to win nineteen of them. And it's just such a
(30:10):
monstrous haul. That's what I would say. I would say, Hey,
I'm so thrilled we're winning. Let's make sure we're winning
so that we can win in January too.
Speaker 1 (30:18):
That was Ryan Harris, former Broncos offensive tackle, Super Bowl
champion alumnus of Notre Dame. I want to switch gears
to the college football ranks. I get first of all,
at an eyeball question. See if you know anything about this.
You know about the quarterback from UNLV who with the
nil agreements and decided to take a red shirt.
Speaker 2 (30:37):
It doesn't look like.
Speaker 1 (30:38):
UNLV's missed a beat because they have forty something points
in the first half against Utah State right now.
Speaker 2 (30:42):
As a matter of fact, they've been putting points ever
since he did that.
Speaker 1 (30:45):
That situation perflects me a little bit, because on the
one hand, I want everybody to get the money.
Speaker 2 (30:50):
I want a kid to get his money. Anything that
was promised, I want to get that. And on the
other hand, it felt sort.
Speaker 1 (30:54):
Of like he was quitting on his team, and I
didn't really know what to do with that. I guess
it's the old school of me that doesn't know what
to do with some of this new school.
Speaker 2 (31:00):
In il money.
Speaker 3 (31:03):
Well, lesson learned for the player, right. I mean, look,
there's all kinds of ways to go about business, but
we all understand what it's like to be human. And
clearly that coach told this player that he was going
to get more money than he was. They were winning,
players stepped out to renegotiate. Now the player knows his
(31:23):
value went down. The price just went down, right.
Speaker 6 (31:26):
So I love that NIL holds coaches.
Speaker 3 (31:28):
Responsible and more enshrines the individual rights of players, right,
because now you can transfer if your coach lies to you.
I know kid who and Berg's got stories too. We
know people who they commit to a school and one
kid I know they after he committed, they told him
to cut all his hair. He couldn't show up on
campus with it, and he couldn't study for the degree
he wanted. It was literally the week later. So NIL
(31:52):
is great get young people introduced to money and contracts
as early as possible so that they make their mistakes
as young as possible. And that quarterback just learned that
he's going to be known for whatever people's opinions are
of him stepping out on this team versus hed he
kept playing and been the starting quarterback of a F
four and oh or five and oh un l VV
(32:13):
team in Las Vegas and shock in the world and
maybe transferring somewhere next year where he's gonna get some shine.
Speaker 5 (32:20):
As an offensive lineman.
Speaker 4 (32:22):
I got to ask this question, which quarterback would you
love to play for or play with? A guy who
is your premier pocket passer or that guy who has
the ability to manipulate the pocket wants it starts to
break down which guy would you rather block for?
Speaker 3 (32:40):
The third guy, the one who can do both, and
I'm talking about Jaden Daniels and or Patrick Mahomes. I mean,
you need both, you need the What people fail or
remember is that when you have a quarterback that's a
dual threat quarterback that everybody knows what they're gonna do.
They want to run early like a Lamar Jackson, even
though he is a great pocket passers twisted. However, when
(33:01):
you sing in the pocket, you force the defense to
play its natural pass defense. And the more you can
sit in the pocket, even eight nine times in a row,
the more that they're gonna start doing drop coverages, especially
if you're getting some yards and first down through the pass.
But if you don't have a guy that can break
out in those team moments and still get a downfield.
You're gonna lose a lot of football games. So I'll
(33:22):
take the guys that can do both. I'm gonna throw I'm.
Speaker 6 (33:24):
Gonna throw Josh Allen on that list too.
Speaker 3 (33:25):
Now, I don't put it. He's earned that too. So
I'm the three guys in the NFL who can do
it right now. I'll take those three because they can
do both.
Speaker 1 (33:32):
I'm with you, man, Hey, Ryan, we really appreciate you
taking some time out for us tonight and joining us.
Speaker 2 (33:36):
We always appreciate having you on the show.
Speaker 3 (33:38):
Brother Bell as fun as always, peace.
Speaker 1 (33:41):
Yep, take care Ryan Harris super Bowl winning offensive tackle
for your Denver Broncos.
Speaker 2 (33:46):
And always enjoy his insights on everything you enjoy.
Speaker 1 (33:49):
Listen to him call games too, does a great job
with that you and you and him now are the
same fraternity there calling games there, mister, if you please.
Speaker 4 (33:56):
Well, Ryan has a little more experience than I doing
to enjoy listening to him.
Speaker 5 (34:01):
Uh, And it's great, you know, to be in the booth.
For me, it was with the Rick Lewis and Dave Logan.
I really enjoyed it. So it was a hell of
an experience.
Speaker 1 (34:10):
Yeah, I you know, I enjoyed listening til we had
it on. I was over in the Sweet. We had
it on the Sweet, so I could hear you guys,
you were in the suite. I was in the Sweet.
Speaker 2 (34:17):
Well, why are you tell me that you were in
the booth. I didn't need to tell you that.
Speaker 5 (34:20):
I mean, at some point I had to come out
of the booth. But you didn't tell me you were
in a suit.
Speaker 2 (34:24):
No, you needed to know that comes up. I thought
you were coming this week. I had to know, all right,
you didn't disclosing the site. Okay, sweet, all right, but
let me he.
Speaker 5 (34:33):
Didn't tell me. What's sweet? You notice he told.
Speaker 4 (34:36):
Me he would be in us, I said the.
Speaker 2 (34:42):
Keeping it deliberately vague for the air wish. Now I'll
get you the info.
Speaker 1 (34:45):
You did have a question on the text line, did
Ben get his khaki suit? I have not got the
khaki suit, but I do have a special suit for
this weekend, and.
Speaker 2 (34:56):
It is in charge of Yellow. We're running it.
Speaker 1 (34:57):
We're still running the jicks because every time I've worn
the teams colors, Broncas have won the opposing team's colors.
The Bronks won, So we're running the reverse jinks with
a charger yellow suit this weekend.
Speaker 5 (35:07):
Okay, I'm here.
Speaker 2 (35:08):
For that one. I'm keeping the junks alive.
Speaker 5 (35:11):
Man, Is it yellow? Is it like canary yellow?
Speaker 1 (35:14):
It's like a it's like a chargers powder yellow charges
powdered powdered blue.
Speaker 2 (35:18):
But it's never powdered yellow. It's more of a powdered yellow.
You'll see what I mean. I also have the powdered
blue pocket square chack.
Speaker 5 (35:26):
I'll see on Saturday.
Speaker 2 (35:27):
I'll check you. I'm jinking this happened. Broncos Country to Night.
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