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Speaker 1 (00:00):
I am not Ben all Bright filling in for Ben
who's out tonight. I am a rod Anthony Rodriguez. Happy
to be with you my safety night, if you will.
To my left is none other than former Broncos safety
and man of doing everything across the board in the
Denver media and national landscape, the one and only Nick Ferguson,
rolling along well as well with all of y'all here
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with you on KOA, the official radio home of the
Denver Broncos. Speaking of the Denver Broncos coming up on Thursday. Yes,
the Denver Broncos play Thursday night or this week if
you're living under some rock, get it together playing in
New Orleans Saints Sean Payton's fifteen year former squad and
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three eighty five eighty five. Nick Ferguson. Fifteen years Sean
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Payton spent with the New Orleans Saints, and here he
was chatting today about playing against his former square.
Speaker 2 (02:01):
I think on a short week, you're forced to, like
in other words, like right from here, it's it's and
so there's really and I say this like there's zero time.
Last week ahead of time. There were a few things
that you know, she was able to handle, but on
a short week, there just isn't enough time in the day.
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And look, I'm sure there'll be some emotions at some point,
but more importantly, it's about our team, you know, because
really we go to stadiums with players that man, this
means something to me. I used to be a chief
or charger, raider or ego, you know, and to that
individual having spent time there, that that matters. And so
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but I think because of the week and because of
the schedule, I haven't really had a chance to I mean,
I get it, but but what's most important is is
finding a way to win.
Speaker 1 (02:59):
January of twenty twenty two is when Sewn announced his
then retirement Nick Ferguson from the New Orleans Saints, now
obviously coming out via the trade with the Denver Broncos
returning back to New Orleans. Reception of Sean in New Orleans,
how do you think it should go? And how do
you anticipate it actually.
Speaker 3 (03:20):
Going the way that it should go. It should be
a mixed bag. And it also bleeds into how I
think it's gonna go. It's you're gonna have fans who
are going to cheer. Some are going to somewhat boom
because they don't like how the team was left in
that retirement year, financially strapped when coach Payton retired, But
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there's there's gonna be a handful of fans who are
going to root for him based on what he was
able to achieve with bringing a title to New Orleans
for the first time with Drew Brees at the helm.
So it's always difficult when you go back as a
play year, it's viewed different differently because you played in
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fans of purchased jerseys. They've rooted for you. As a coach.
It's a little different for most coaches, But because coach
Peyton spent an enormous amount of his coaching career there
as the head coach, not the offensive coordinator, but the
guy in charge, it's gonna be something to see. And
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listening to that audio, it seems as though he's kind
of down playing a little but rest assured. These players
understand what that means. And I'll give you personal experience
for my own. When I came here from the Jets,
I didn't really understand that whole Broncos Raiders rivalry until
I played in that first game, and then I understood
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it very well. There is and there never should be hatred,
but there is some hatred for both teams, and knowing
as though I knew the story or I learned the
story because Koachhanahan never told me as to why the
beef is so thick. Because Al Davis owed Mike money
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and told Mike, you know what, sue me for it.
You end up spending more money suing me for it
than I actually owe you. So every time we touched
the field, whether it was home or away, we just
wanted to lean into the Raiders just a little. But
in between plays when the ref wasn't looking, hey man,
tell Al Davis to take that. So these players want
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to win because they want to get back on the
winning side of things, but they also want to win
for coach Peyton.
Speaker 1 (05:39):
I think on the Saints fans side, well, first of
all any fans, but I'll narrow it down to NFL fans.
Other team, regardless of who it is, on any given Sunday,
they're gonna root against the other squad. There's those We'll
put those aside because they're going to do it regardless
of who's playing, who's coaching, whatever. Fifteen years and they're
one and all. Super Bowl victory I think should be
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much more heavily taken into account than the last couple.
Credit card was definitely open, salary cap not the greatest
there in the last couple of years, which you know,
obviously people have kind of really really heard for certain
now don't think we ever will exactly why Sean decided
to step away, but I think just the situation New
Orleans obviously drew everything going on. I think all played
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together collectively about why he stepped away. But even those
last couple of seasons, I don't think for Saints fans
should outweigh what he did for those fifteen seasons, all
that fun, all that dominance their one and only Super
Bowl appearance and victory against Peyton, Mannings, Colton and nine.
I think he should get a resounding happy reception. I
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personally think so, just because of what he did there
with that squad. Now the other thing too, I think
fans New Orleans fans are probably be a lot quicker
to give him that reception if they were kind of
in a better place right now, if they were, say
four and two, five and one Derek Carr, and that
offense is rolling. Dennis Allen has everything clicking on both
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sides of the ball. I think that there's a decent
chance it goes either way where they say, ah, we
don't need you anymore, Sean, whatever we're gonna we're move
on from you. Or they could also be on the
flip side. You know, we're doing really really good without you,
but we honor you what you did. We're in a
good place. I think them now being without Derek Carr
two and four possibly about to drop their fifth straight,
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could be a bit of man, this is all your
fault somehow you put us in this position Sean, even
though it's opinion plenty of years. But that's how I
see it.
Speaker 3 (07:45):
I mean, fandom is very fickle, and you have fans
who remember what you did from a pro stand on
certain things, but he also remember from a negative stance.
But I think on Thursday night, the you're already of
the stadium, they're going to stand up and they're going
to cheer, because it's hard to be in the place
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fifteen years and not have.
Speaker 4 (08:10):
A devotion from a fan base.
Speaker 3 (08:13):
But once they do, whatever introduction and I think Drew
Brees is going in to the Ring of Fame.
Speaker 4 (08:20):
They're going to celebrate that.
Speaker 1 (08:22):
Is that this game? Yes, Oh of course it is.
Speaker 4 (08:24):
Yes. So after that, no, you are an enemy in
our home.
Speaker 3 (08:29):
You're trying to put your drink on my nice wooden
table without a coaster, right, So they're going to yell
and scream and they're going to bool because they have
to energize their team, especially after that Debaco against Tampa
Bay when they gave up fifty one points. So they're
looking to get back on the right track. And think
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about it, I mean Dennis Allen who coached with Sean Payton.
Speaker 1 (08:56):
Yeah, it would be great for him.
Speaker 3 (08:57):
To know that there was an enormous amount of coaches
who are currently on the Broncos coaching staff who Dennis
Allen coached with the New Orleans to know that he
handed them another defeat. That's another notch in his or
feather in his cap. And that's what the fans in
New Orleans want to give back. We want to acknowledge you,
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coach Payton, for everything you gave us over fifteen years.
Speaker 4 (09:21):
But we want you to take an ale on the
way out.
Speaker 3 (09:23):
That is how the fans and New Orleans are going
to think about the situation.
Speaker 1 (09:27):
By the way, it was just for one year. But
Dennis Allen also former Broncos coach, I head coach, he
was the DC here in twenty eleven. But you know,
it's not a whole lot of room for animosity there
because it really wasn't a long stint. But what do
you guys think again, our Common Spirit Health text Line
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a warm reception from the Saints faithful there in New Orleans?
We also talk a little trade talk, which we were
talking about a bit earlier on regarding all these trades
that went down today, specifically wide receiver with a Mari
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skill it what's going on?
Speaker 5 (10:12):
Skin it not too much?
Speaker 1 (10:16):
How's a good impression, wasn't you guys?
Speaker 5 (10:17):
They're coming in good out here in Arkansas.
Speaker 1 (10:20):
Have you heard it, man, what's going on?
Speaker 5 (10:22):
Well, I'm just was listening to what you guys were saying. Now,
I think the game plan for Thursday is eighty percent throwing,
twenty percent running because they're inside. You got two rookies
going at it at quarterback, and I just think that
everything would be right. I mean, you've got a passing
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contest possibly going on, and just just put these two
rookies against each other and make them try to catch
up with each other and throw about throw everything. Don't
even run the ball, just just throw it all night long.
Speaker 4 (10:58):
And that's the baby, Jack. I'm on a f.
Speaker 1 (11:03):
Oh scale. It never changed, my friend. I appreciate you calling,
and I gotta tell you Skille is one of the
best sports radio callers. But he's got a good point,
especially for the fact that I think he was clearly
watching either a good chunk of the game or the
highlights of what that Tampa Bay offense was able to
do against that New Orleans defense. Because man, the Broncos
and film Roo have gotta be foaming at the mouth
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knowing that they absolutely wanted to get this offense rolling,
especially early. Number one. You see rid the Satins defense
doing like I just mentioned number two. Just pretend that
you're in the fourth down a couple scores and we're
often rolling. What's the problem, Nick, that's a good.
Speaker 4 (11:43):
Way to get going. Just pretend that's an excellent way
to get going.
Speaker 3 (11:48):
For me, the first thing I would do is the
first play, I'm taking a shot.
Speaker 4 (11:54):
I like it taking a shot, being aggressive.
Speaker 1 (11:57):
So not run, run, pass, no, no, Because.
Speaker 3 (12:01):
What we're seeing is though you have to try to
live outside of the box. You have to change things
up because every coach, when you coach long enough, there
is a playbook on every single coach. If you coach
long enough, it's like a player scouting report. Well, what
are some of the coaches tendencies in these particular predicaments,
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you know, first and.
Speaker 4 (12:24):
Fifteen or backed up or in.
Speaker 3 (12:28):
Situations where it's Thursday night, they either won a game
or they lost games.
Speaker 4 (12:34):
What are those tendencies.
Speaker 3 (12:35):
So that's when you use the analytics and try to
use it to your favor. But sometimes you have to
go off script. You have to do something that the
other team is not prepared for you. They're not anticipating
and why not. The Broncos haven't been known to take
shots down the field. When you think about where the
Broncos are on first down and third down, they're near
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the bottom of the NFL on first down. Successful on
first down and third down, those are the two downs
you need the most because third down gets you closer
to getting that first down right. And also if you
are positive or get positive y'alls on first down, now
you are second and manageable. Well, that means they're not
doing those two things well. And that's why, or that's
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part of why the offense is struggling.
Speaker 1 (13:21):
Broncos needed to win big time in Week three oh
and two going to Tampa. You asked for this upcoming
game for that first play to be a deep shot
first and ten Broncos thirty deep past the Courtland signed
for twenty two yards? Was that first play of that game?
And then obviously we know what happened the rest of
the game, including that drive itself off and rolling big
big boy play.
Speaker 3 (13:41):
Would that play a back show to fade or something
like that?
Speaker 4 (13:44):
Was Was that that play?
Speaker 3 (13:46):
Because I know the Broncos went went in that direction,
but we don't really see that much a back show
to phase with Courtland sudden, we don't we don't even
see sluggs, which is a slant and go. We don't
see that in Broncos offense. So you got to do
something to make the defense try to defend everything.
Speaker 1 (14:10):
Those first three plays it was past pass pass. By
the way, those first three plays in that game do
exactly what you did against a much lesser defense in
New Orleans.
Speaker 3 (14:18):
Okay, well, we have to be really careful in context
when we say pass pass pass. That's just like like
like talking.
Speaker 4 (14:26):
A big gal. Run the ball, run the ball.
Speaker 3 (14:28):
Okay, well you can run the ball, but is it
strategic and what kind of run plays are you running?
Because just because you're running the ball doesn't necessarily mean
you're going to be effective for this offense.
Speaker 4 (14:38):
I'm thinking they need to get outside.
Speaker 3 (14:40):
If you got Jilil McLoughlin, and I know sometimes they
don't put him in based on his side, so the
defense go.
Speaker 4 (14:46):
Oh, we know what they're doing. Get him outside.
Speaker 1 (14:48):
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He is Nick Ferguson. I am a Rod filling in
for Ben. We're breaking down this Broncos sand scan, getting
more in depth as we roll along right here on KOA,
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coming out firing or changing the script, changing something to
get rolling faster. Broncos Country Night. We're rolling along at
a decent pace, a really good pace here on KOA,
the official radio home of the Denver Broncos. He is
Nick Ferguson. I am a Rod, Anthony Rodriguez filling in
for Ben. Tonight. That was Bo Nicks, Denver Broncos starting quarterback,
chatting about trying to start faster, just like Nick and
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I were talking about with that, oh the beautiful drive
getting things off rolling in Week three against the Tampa
Bay Buccaneers of a team that just decimated the New
Orleans Saints defense, just as last week. Nick, There's a
lot of different components, and you sent me something earlier
that could be part of how Bo Nicks gets this
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offense Roland. But we've also talked in addition that, we've
also talked just about how important it is for the
supporting cast, namely Sean Payton and the coaching staff to
set Bow up for success going into the seventh start.
Speaker 4 (16:31):
All of that is great.
Speaker 3 (16:34):
And the way that you start fas is based on
the play setup, because most coaches script their first twenty
to twenty five plays so they can get a feel
for the game. And one thing that we know or
I've learned about Bo over this season is that he
works well.
Speaker 4 (16:54):
When there's up tempo.
Speaker 3 (16:56):
And that was one of the things that what was
said about Bo and why Coach Payton was so in
love with him as a quarterback was how quickly and
how well he processed information and how well he went
out there on the field and actually duplicated what he
had seen on a.
Speaker 4 (17:14):
Short period of time.
Speaker 3 (17:16):
What that being said is like you lean into that,
and when you look at the Seattle game, I want
to start there first, when the Broncos offense seemed a
little stagnant at that particular point, the Broncos hadn't rushed
for over twenty yards, not by a single player, until
Bowl rushed for twenty three yards. Then his first touchdown
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wasn't a pass thrown. It was a run right off
of a Bootlook, he said, oh, end zones, there, no
one's going to stop me.
Speaker 4 (17:49):
Ran in. So I started to say, okay, well, there's
something to this. Guy. Because you go back.
Speaker 3 (17:54):
And you look at Bowl from his days in Oregon,
he still had that he could play in the pocket,
he could play outside the pocket. But if you look
at today's game, it's dynamic quarterback play. That is a
game changer, right go back to I think with Pittsburgh
still his game.
Speaker 4 (18:10):
Guess what he scrambled.
Speaker 3 (18:12):
You look at the game on Sunday, it was at
the fourteen nine mark. He's backed up, but Dupre comes
off the edge humming. He makes a miss. Two plays later,
Durwin James same thing makes him miss. Right on the
play that Bo scrambled to find. I believe it was
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either Vla. I believe it was Vala or he's scrambling
to the right and he could have taken off and
got five more y'alls, but he decided to let the
ball go.
Speaker 4 (18:45):
Nice soft touch. That's who that kid is.
Speaker 3 (18:49):
So if you see more of that, you're going to
see more expansion in the offense, but more up tempo
is where he lives and where he thrives.
Speaker 1 (18:59):
Couple things said going into the season, how this kid
is cerebral. He is a guy that just puts it
together extremely well in terms of like like you just
mentioned in terms of his UH is his ability to
make great reads, to stay mobile in the pocket, that athleticism,
which what you had said earlier in terms of his
ability to use that, and no knowing when to get out. Now,
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a couple of things is you don't want it to
be too much by necessity in the sense when Garrett
Bowles misses a couple of blocks and makes up for
some of those amazing runs that shouldn't have been as
necessary as they were in those moments, but great that
he turned into what it was. But the other thing too,
And Ben Albright, he usually has a spot right here
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on the show, has chatted about these latent games where
it's the up tempo like you just talked about, and
also going a little easy on those substitutions and keeping
things rolling with that no huddle, knowing that you have
a significant sample size of that work. Now with a
baby asterisk in the sense that there's some there's some
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element to the defense playing back that the prevent defense
a bit which opens things up and allows for that
a little bit that that's an element of it. But
you have a significant sample size of what is working
late in games with this offense I am at times
struggling to answer the question of why aren't we doing
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that earlier in games, that specific game plan of rolling along,
keeping the defense back and putting on, putting them on
their toes, going up tempo, like I said, chilling out
on the substitutions and rolling quick. Why I want to.
Speaker 4 (20:39):
Back up forth?
Speaker 3 (20:40):
Something you just said that piqued my interest into something
that I've heard a lot of individs here in this market.
Mentioned that the Chargers were in the prevent defense, which
allowed the Broncos to do what they did. This was
the opportunity to shut the Broncos out do something that
had never happened in franchise history, right where the home
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team was shut out at home. So this whole idea that, well,
the Broncos were effective because the Chargers were playing prevent defense.
Speaker 4 (21:11):
No, I don't subscribe to that.
Speaker 3 (21:13):
Watching the game, I'm not going to say that the
Broncos got into a rhythm. And what I saw and
the game on Sunday was something I've seen similar this season,
and what I've seen similar to what we saw last
season when Russell was a quarterback. In the fourth quarter
in tight situations, the Broncos went up tempo, hurry up,
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however you want.
Speaker 4 (21:37):
To call it.
Speaker 3 (21:37):
But they were able to move the ball down the
field with efficiency.
Speaker 4 (21:40):
I'll take you back for just a second.
Speaker 3 (21:42):
Remember I think it was a Sunday night game against
the Patriots.
Speaker 4 (21:45):
The Broncos were down.
Speaker 3 (21:47):
Russ moved the ball down the field not once, but twice,
and the Broncos converted to two point conversions and everyone
was scratching their head, going like where was this earlier?
So some of the same things we saw last year
were seeing this year. And here's a great thing about
going two minute offense a rod. When you look at
that play sheet by any coach in the NFL, it
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looks like a restaurant menu. When you go to minute,
it reduces the amount of calls that you can actually make.
It reduces the amount of constantly exchanging the personnel from
the sideline. So now everything is go, go go. Receivers
got to be spot on. The quarterback's got to be
spot on with going through his progressions where he wants
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to go to ball, go with the ball before the
ball is snapped. Also, the offensive line, it forces them
to be able to block with a sense of urgency.
This is going to happen quickly so I don't have
to be in the long set.
Speaker 4 (22:40):
This is why you do it now.
Speaker 3 (22:42):
I'm not saying that you make this ninety percent of
your offense. I'm not saying that. But what you want
to do, you want to what we call on defense.
When I played in a coach NASCAR, having the ability
to speed it up when you need to, and slow
it down and bring it back when you need to
as well, that's where the Broncos office needs to be.
Speaker 1 (23:03):
So then answer me this. Then, when we see it
run so successfully and efficiently, and in moments where you
would say a young team essentially rushing along the offense
late in games, you would think, oh, well, this is
where you would get more false starts, this is where
you would see illegal formations whatnot. But we've seen it
so efficiently. So why has it only been by necessity
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and not their bread and butter early in games? Why
have they not given it a whirl earlier on? What's
the reasoning behind not given that a go early in games?
Speaker 3 (23:36):
Well, I don't know the reason why, but I'm going
to tell you what Coach Payton said when he was
asked this very question in the first quarter, there was
a penalty was I believe it was a false start.
In the second quarter it was Devonte, the ball was
knocked out. There was a fomble. So the idea was that, okay,
well they're trying to do that, but a fomble and
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a penalty took them out of it. Those things are
going to happen. The idea is that you have to
go back to the well and you have to trust
your players.
Speaker 4 (24:07):
You have to make it a point of emphasis in practice.
Speaker 3 (24:10):
Right my time planned for Mike Shanahan, we couldn't practice
every single scenario, but for the majority of our practices,
especially on Thursday and Friday, we went through situation in
football so everyone is aware of it. To give you
a quick synopsis, we practiced this play where we had
to rush our offense off the field, rush the field
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goal team on the field with very limited time to
kick the game winn the field goal. We practiced that
every single day and we were wondering when the hell
are we gonna run We're gonna be in this situation
in a game until we were in that situation up
in Buffalo right playing against Terrell Owens. Owens and Marshawn Lynch,
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we had about three to four seconds to get our
offense off the field. Jason Ingraam on the field, kick
the game, win a field goal. You got to practice
these things well.
Speaker 1 (25:03):
Lebroncos have had a plethora of learning experiences through these
first six weeks. Here is what Bonix said today about
those very learning experiences so far this season.
Speaker 6 (25:14):
Yeah, I think it's really important. You know, there's all
kinds of experiences, new experiences going on, you know, for me,
and it's important to treat each and every one of
them like like it's different, and you know, learn as
much as I can and grow as much as I
can from them. You know, we've been in you know,
literally almost every situation you know possible at this point.
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So we just got to continue to battle and take
it one game at a time and keep learning when
our opportunities are there and not make the same mistakes
over and over.
Speaker 1 (25:43):
Something both said there actually is a really good point
in the first six weeks. They kind of have seen
the full gamut of all different kinds of stuff. I
think in terms of obviously wins and losses, you know,
three and three, you would hope to have won a couple more. Again,
you're still three and three. It's still I think I'm
extremely pleased with it. But six weeks outside of wins
and losses, Nick, would you agree that this team, in
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terms of wanting to kind of see everything get bo
all these different opportunities, you know, different two minute drills,
coming from behind, playing on offense with the lead. They've
kind they've kind of run the gambit already in six
weeks so far, of all these different experiences that you
want to see BO kind of kind of collect.
Speaker 4 (26:24):
Yeah, they have.
Speaker 3 (26:24):
I mean, go from starting the season playing on the road,
hustle environment very loud in Seattle as a rookie, and
getting to a point where the Broncos had an opportunity
to do to go to win that game, and then
being in a situation where you are playing from behind
and trying to close out a game and then also
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playing with a lead. Yes, you've gone through this gambit
of situations. So this is why when individuals criticize BO,
I tell those individuals go pound on sand and go
kick rocks, because what we're seeing is that the growth
and maturity of bow knicks take place right before our eyes.
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And you said you have to grow. It's about growth,
not wins, and coming into this season, yeah, Bronco's country
was optimistic. They found their quarterback, but the biggest thing
was are you going to grow? And for me, yeah,
you want the wins, but I want to see the
team grow and develop. You already have a great defense.
We just need an offense to come pull however you
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need to do it, come drag and pull along and
things will get better towards the end of the season.
Speaker 1 (27:36):
Collection of experience is another one coming Bow's way. Is
the first opportunity to play on a short week. Here
was Bo Nicks chatting about playing on a Thursday night.
Speaker 6 (27:47):
Well, it's definitely a nick I've never played in you know,
just under four days like this, So it's been a
fun challenge. You know, you kind of have to cram
everything all at once and just learn a lot at
one time. But that's you know, part of you know
the game. You know, a lot of guys have to
do that. It's part of the fund of playing on
a Thursday night. So we'll be ready to go and
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we'll have a good plan and we just got to execute.
Speaker 1 (28:10):
And I bring that up because on the opposite side,
Nick is a quarterback in Spencer Ratler, who, unlike Bo Nicks,
who now has six weeks under his belt in his
NFL career, Spencer Rattler goes from preparing for his first
week to immediately going to a short week. So there's
no consistency in terms of what that experience has been
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like for Spencer. And I bring that up because Spencer
Ratler now has to go against this Denver Broncos defense,
whereas bow Knicks seeing now what that New Orleans defense
just had to face off with with Tampa a fifty burger.
Advantage Bow in this offense on Thursday.
Speaker 4 (28:50):
Well, I would say advantage Bow.
Speaker 3 (28:52):
But also what comes along with that, a rod is
there's more pressure on the Broncos players in the staff
opposed to Dennis Allen in Spencer Ratler, Right, I mean,
no one and I haven't looked at the odds, but
I don't think anyone is probably picking the Saints to
win playing with the rookie quarterbacks, short week and the
possibility of not having too your top wide receivers in
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the game, that's a problem. So for Spencer Rattler, he
can just kind of go out there and just play free,
right because everything is looking up for him, it is.
Now it becomes a challenge when when you look at
the Denver Broncos going into New Orleans and having to
play on a short week. So the pressure is not
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on Spencer Spencer Ratler. No, no, no, he's going to
go and I'm not saying that his game is gonna
be flawless, but he's not playing with a lot of pressure.
Speaker 4 (29:42):
But this is he sees this as an opportunity. But
here's the other thing.
Speaker 3 (29:46):
We have Clint Kopiak who wants coached here right his
father we know about, you know, Gary Kubiak, But now
Clint's offense is going to be coaching against Sean Payton.
And for Clint, he's not gonna have all his key players,
so he's gonna have to become more creative because Taysom
Hill isn't playing at all. So that's why going back,
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if the Saints pulled this game out and beat the Broncos,
that's another reason why would be so disappointing.
Speaker 1 (30:14):
Those first two weeks. The creativity what we saw on
that States offense was unreal. Now obviously full throttle all pieces,
Derek Carr totally different now going into Week seven. But
if there's someone now a short week with a guy
that's just about to make his second start in really
a week and a half as a starter in Spencer Ratler.
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But man Clint Kobiack, he has the potential to really
show off here if he's able to put together a performance,
a game plan for Ratler and the pieces that they
do have playing against this defense, likely, Sayans Patsertan, that'll
be impressive and I'll be worried. And that is we're
gonna talk about next because we want to chat about
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if there is a loss coming up here on Thursday
for the Broncos is to add more or less pressure
for the Denver Broncos and for Sean Payton moving forward,
because then you're talking about going back on a five
hundred three and four. Yeah, I know it's possible. Hopefully not.
Hopefully the Broncos take care of business against the beat
up Saints, and we saw against that defense coming up
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on Thursday, But what if?
Speaker 4 (31:22):
What if?
Speaker 1 (31:23):
We're gonna talk about that coming up here in the
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three eighty five eighty five. Nick Ferguson. Fifteen years Sean
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Payton spent with the New Orleans Saints, and here he
was chatting today about playing against his former square.
Speaker 2 (02:01):
I think on a short week, you're forced to, like
in other words, like right from here, it's it's and
so there's really and I say this like there's zero time.
Last week ahead of time. There were a few things
that you know, she was able to handle, but on
a short week, there just isn't enough time in the day.
(02:24):
And look, I'm sure there'll be some emotions at some point,
but more importantly, it's about our team, you know, because
really we go to stadiums with players that man, this
means something to me. I used to be a chief
or charger, raider or ego, you know, and to that
individual having spent time there, that that matters. And so
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but I think because of the week and because of
the schedule, I haven't really had a chance to I mean,
I get it, but but what's most important is is
finding a way to win.
Speaker 1 (02:59):
January of twenty twenty two is when Sewn announced his
then retirement Nick Ferguson from the New Orleans Saints, now
obviously coming out via the trade with the Denver Broncos
returning back to New Orleans. Reception of Sean in New Orleans,
how do you think it should go? And how do
you anticipate it actually.
Speaker 3 (03:20):
Going the way that it should go. It should be
a mixed bag. And it also bleeds into how I
think it's gonna go. It's you're gonna have fans who
are going to cheer. Some are going to somewhat boom
because they don't like how the team was left in
that retirement year, financially strapped when coach Payton retired, But
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there's there's gonna be a handful of fans who are
going to root for him based on what he was
able to achieve with bringing a title to New Orleans
for the first time with Drew Brees at the helm.
So it's always difficult when you go back as a
play year, it's viewed different differently because you played in
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fans of purchased jerseys. They've rooted for you. As a coach.
It's a little different for most coaches, But because coach
Peyton spent an enormous amount of his coaching career there
as the head coach, not the offensive coordinator, but the
guy in charge, it's gonna be something to see. And
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listening to that audio, it seems as though he's kind
of down playing a little but rest assured. These players
understand what that means. And I'll give you personal experience
for my own. When I came here from the Jets,
I didn't really understand that whole Broncos Raiders rivalry until
I played in that first game, and then I understood
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it very well. There is and there never should be hatred,
but there is some hatred for both teams, and knowing
as though I knew the story or I learned the
story because Koachhanahan never told me as to why the
beef is so thick. Because Al Davis owed Mike money
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and told Mike, you know what, sue me for it.
You end up spending more money suing me for it
than I actually owe you. So every time we touched
the field, whether it was home or away, we just
wanted to lean into the Raiders just a little. But
in between plays when the ref wasn't looking, hey man,
tell Al Davis to take that. So these players want
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to win because they want to get back on the
winning side of things, but they also want to win
for coach Peyton.
Speaker 1 (05:39):
I think on the Saints fans side, well, first of
all any fans, but I'll narrow it down to NFL fans.
Other team, regardless of who it is, on any given Sunday,
they're gonna root against the other squad. There's those We'll
put those aside because they're going to do it regardless
of who's playing, who's coaching, whatever. Fifteen years and they're
one and all. Super Bowl victory I think should be
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much more heavily taken into account than the last couple.
Credit card was definitely open, salary cap not the greatest
there in the last couple of years, which you know,
obviously people have kind of really really heard for certain
now don't think we ever will exactly why Sean decided
to step away, but I think just the situation New
Orleans obviously drew everything going on. I think all played
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together collectively about why he stepped away. But even those
last couple of seasons, I don't think for Saints fans
should outweigh what he did for those fifteen seasons, all
that fun, all that dominance their one and only Super
Bowl appearance and victory against Peyton, Mannings, Colton and nine.
I think he should get a resounding happy reception. I
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personally think so, just because of what he did there
with that squad. Now the other thing too, I think
fans New Orleans fans are probably be a lot quicker
to give him that reception if they were kind of
in a better place right now, if they were, say
four and two, five and one Derek Carr, and that
offense is rolling. Dennis Allen has everything clicking on both
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sides of the ball. I think that there's a decent
chance it goes either way where they say, ah, we
don't need you anymore, Sean, whatever we're gonna we're move
on from you. Or they could also be on the
flip side. You know, we're doing really really good without you,
but we honor you what you did. We're in a
good place. I think them now being without Derek Carr
two and four possibly about to drop their fifth straight,
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could be a bit of man, this is all your
fault somehow you put us in this position Sean, even
though it's opinion plenty of years. But that's how I
see it.
Speaker 3 (07:45):
I mean, fandom is very fickle, and you have fans
who remember what you did from a pro stand on
certain things, but he also remember from a negative stance.
But I think on Thursday night, the you're already of
the stadium, they're going to stand up and they're going
to cheer, because it's hard to be in the place
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fifteen years and not have.
Speaker 4 (08:10):
A devotion from a fan base.
Speaker 3 (08:13):
But once they do, whatever introduction and I think Drew
Brees is going in to the Ring of Fame.
Speaker 4 (08:20):
They're going to celebrate that.
Speaker 1 (08:22):
Is that this game? Yes, Oh of course it is.
Speaker 4 (08:24):
Yes. So after that, no, you are an enemy in
our home.
Speaker 3 (08:29):
You're trying to put your drink on my nice wooden
table without a coaster, right, So they're going to yell
and scream and they're going to bool because they have
to energize their team, especially after that Debaco against Tampa
Bay when they gave up fifty one points. So they're
looking to get back on the right track. And think
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about it, I mean Dennis Allen who coached with Sean Payton.
Speaker 1 (08:56):
Yeah, it would be great for him.
Speaker 3 (08:57):
To know that there was an enormous amount of coaches
who are currently on the Broncos coaching staff who Dennis
Allen coached with the New Orleans to know that he
handed them another defeat. That's another notch in his or
feather in his cap. And that's what the fans in
New Orleans want to give back. We want to acknowledge you,
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coach Payton, for everything you gave us over fifteen years.
Speaker 4 (09:21):
But we want you to take an ale on the
way out.
Speaker 3 (09:23):
That is how the fans and New Orleans are going
to think about the situation.
Speaker 1 (09:27):
By the way, it was just for one year. But
Dennis Allen also former Broncos coach, I head coach, he
was the DC here in twenty eleven. But you know,
it's not a whole lot of room for animosity there
because it really wasn't a long stint. But what do
you guys think again, our Common Spirit Health text Line
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a warm reception from the Saints faithful there in New Orleans?
We also talk a little trade talk, which we were
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that went down today, specifically wide receiver with a Mari
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skill it what's going on?
Speaker 5 (10:12):
Skin it not too much?
Speaker 1 (10:16):
How's a good impression, wasn't you guys?
Speaker 5 (10:17):
They're coming in good out here in Arkansas.
Speaker 1 (10:20):
Have you heard it, man, what's going on?
Speaker 5 (10:22):
Well, I'm just was listening to what you guys were saying. Now,
I think the game plan for Thursday is eighty percent throwing,
twenty percent running because they're inside. You got two rookies
going at it at quarterback, and I just think that
everything would be right. I mean, you've got a passing
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contest possibly going on, and just just put these two
rookies against each other and make them try to catch
up with each other and throw about throw everything. Don't
even run the ball, just just throw it all night long.
Speaker 4 (10:58):
And that's the baby, Jack. I'm on a f.
Speaker 1 (11:03):
Oh scale. It never changed, my friend. I appreciate you calling,
and I gotta tell you Skille is one of the
best sports radio callers. But he's got a good point,
especially for the fact that I think he was clearly
watching either a good chunk of the game or the
highlights of what that Tampa Bay offense was able to
do against that New Orleans defense. Because man, the Broncos
and film Roo have gotta be foaming at the mouth
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knowing that they absolutely wanted to get this offense rolling,
especially early. Number one. You see rid the Satins defense
doing like I just mentioned number two. Just pretend that
you're in the fourth down a couple scores and we're
often rolling. What's the problem, Nick, that's a good.
Speaker 4 (11:43):
Way to get going. Just pretend that's an excellent way
to get going.
Speaker 3 (11:48):
For me, the first thing I would do is the
first play, I'm taking a shot.
Speaker 4 (11:54):
I like it taking a shot, being aggressive.
Speaker 1 (11:57):
So not run, run, pass, no, no, Because.
Speaker 3 (12:01):
What we're seeing is though you have to try to
live outside of the box. You have to change things
up because every coach, when you coach long enough, there
is a playbook on every single coach. If you coach
long enough, it's like a player scouting report. Well, what
are some of the coaches tendencies in these particular predicaments,
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you know, first and.
Speaker 4 (12:24):
Fifteen or backed up or in.
Speaker 3 (12:28):
Situations where it's Thursday night, they either won a game
or they lost games.
Speaker 4 (12:34):
What are those tendencies.
Speaker 3 (12:35):
So that's when you use the analytics and try to
use it to your favor. But sometimes you have to
go off script. You have to do something that the
other team is not prepared for you. They're not anticipating
and why not. The Broncos haven't been known to take
shots down the field. When you think about where the
Broncos are on first down and third down, they're near
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the bottom of the NFL on first down. Successful on
first down and third down, those are the two downs
you need the most because third down gets you closer
to getting that first down right. And also if you
are positive or get positive y'alls on first down, now
you are second and manageable. Well, that means they're not
doing those two things well. And that's why, or that's
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part of why the offense is struggling.
Speaker 1 (13:21):
Broncos needed to win big time in Week three oh
and two going to Tampa. You asked for this upcoming
game for that first play to be a deep shot
first and ten Broncos thirty deep past the Courtland signed
for twenty two yards? Was that first play of that game?
And then obviously we know what happened the rest of
the game, including that drive itself off and rolling big
big boy play.
Speaker 3 (13:41):
Would that play a back show to fade or something
like that?
Speaker 4 (13:44):
Was Was that that play?
Speaker 3 (13:46):
Because I know the Broncos went went in that direction,
but we don't really see that much a back show
to phase with Courtland sudden, we don't we don't even
see sluggs, which is a slant and go. We don't
see that in Broncos offense. So you got to do
something to make the defense try to defend everything.
Speaker 1 (14:10):
Those first three plays it was past pass pass. By
the way, those first three plays in that game do
exactly what you did against a much lesser defense in
New Orleans.
Speaker 3 (14:18):
Okay, well, we have to be really careful in context
when we say pass pass pass. That's just like like
like talking.
Speaker 4 (14:26):
A big gal. Run the ball, run the ball.
Speaker 3 (14:28):
Okay, well you can run the ball, but is it
strategic and what kind of run plays are you running?
Because just because you're running the ball doesn't necessarily mean
you're going to be effective for this offense.
Speaker 4 (14:38):
I'm thinking they need to get outside.
Speaker 3 (14:40):
If you got Jilil McLoughlin, and I know sometimes they
don't put him in based on his side, so the
defense go.
Speaker 4 (14:46):
Oh, we know what they're doing. Get him outside.
Speaker 1 (14:48):
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coming out firing or changing the script, changing something to
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Nick Ferguson. I am a Rod, Anthony Rodriguez filling in
for Ben. Tonight. That was Bo Nicks, Denver Broncos starting quarterback,
chatting about trying to start faster, just like Nick and
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I were talking about with that, oh the beautiful drive
getting things off rolling in Week three against the Tampa
Bay Buccaneers of a team that just decimated the New
Orleans Saints defense, just as last week. Nick, There's a
lot of different components, and you sent me something earlier
that could be part of how Bo Nicks gets this
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offense Roland. But we've also talked in addition that, we've
also talked just about how important it is for the
supporting cast, namely Sean Payton and the coaching staff to
set Bow up for success going into the seventh start.
Speaker 4 (16:31):
All of that is great.
Speaker 3 (16:34):
And the way that you start fas is based on
the play setup, because most coaches script their first twenty
to twenty five plays so they can get a feel
for the game. And one thing that we know or
I've learned about Bo over this season is that he
works well.
Speaker 4 (16:54):
When there's up tempo.
Speaker 3 (16:56):
And that was one of the things that what was
said about Bo and why Coach Payton was so in
love with him as a quarterback was how quickly and
how well he processed information and how well he went
out there on the field and actually duplicated what he
had seen on a.
Speaker 4 (17:14):
Short period of time.
Speaker 3 (17:16):
What that being said is like you lean into that,
and when you look at the Seattle game, I want
to start there first, when the Broncos offense seemed a
little stagnant at that particular point, the Broncos hadn't rushed
for over twenty yards, not by a single player, until
Bowl rushed for twenty three yards. Then his first touchdown
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wasn't a pass thrown. It was a run right off
of a Bootlook, he said, oh, end zones, there, no
one's going to stop me.
Speaker 4 (17:49):
Ran in. So I started to say, okay, well, there's
something to this. Guy. Because you go back.
Speaker 3 (17:54):
And you look at Bowl from his days in Oregon,
he still had that he could play in the pocket,
he could play outside the pocket. But if you look
at today's game, it's dynamic quarterback play. That is a
game changer, right go back to I think with Pittsburgh
still his game.
Speaker 4 (18:10):
Guess what he scrambled.
Speaker 3 (18:12):
You look at the game on Sunday, it was at
the fourteen nine mark. He's backed up, but Dupre comes
off the edge humming. He makes a miss. Two plays later,
Durwin James same thing makes him miss. Right on the
play that Bo scrambled to find. I believe it was
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either Vla. I believe it was Vala or he's scrambling
to the right and he could have taken off and
got five more y'alls, but he decided to let the
ball go.
Speaker 4 (18:45):
Nice soft touch. That's who that kid is.
Speaker 3 (18:49):
So if you see more of that, you're going to
see more expansion in the offense, but more up tempo
is where he lives and where he thrives.
Speaker 1 (18:59):
Couple things said going into the season, how this kid
is cerebral. He is a guy that just puts it
together extremely well in terms of like like you just
mentioned in terms of his UH is his ability to
make great reads, to stay mobile in the pocket, that athleticism,
which what you had said earlier in terms of his
ability to use that, and no knowing when to get out. Now,
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a couple of things is you don't want it to
be too much by necessity in the sense when Garrett
Bowles misses a couple of blocks and makes up for
some of those amazing runs that shouldn't have been as
necessary as they were in those moments, but great that
he turned into what it was. But the other thing too,
And Ben Albright, he usually has a spot right here
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on the show, has chatted about these latent games where
it's the up tempo like you just talked about, and
also going a little easy on those substitutions and keeping
things rolling with that no huddle, knowing that you have
a significant sample size of that work. Now with a
baby asterisk in the sense that there's some there's some
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element to the defense playing back that the prevent defense
a bit which opens things up and allows for that
a little bit that that's an element of it. But
you have a significant sample size of what is working
late in games with this offense I am at times
struggling to answer the question of why aren't we doing
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that earlier in games, that specific game plan of rolling along,
keeping the defense back and putting on, putting them on
their toes, going up tempo, like I said, chilling out
on the substitutions and rolling quick. Why I want to.
Speaker 4 (20:39):
Back up forth?
Speaker 3 (20:40):
Something you just said that piqued my interest into something
that I've heard a lot of individs here in this market.
Mentioned that the Chargers were in the prevent defense, which
allowed the Broncos to do what they did. This was
the opportunity to shut the Broncos out do something that
had never happened in franchise history, right where the home
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team was shut out at home. So this whole idea that, well,
the Broncos were effective because the Chargers were playing prevent defense.
Speaker 4 (21:11):
No, I don't subscribe to that.
Speaker 3 (21:13):
Watching the game, I'm not going to say that the
Broncos got into a rhythm. And what I saw and
the game on Sunday was something I've seen similar this season,
and what I've seen similar to what we saw last
season when Russell was a quarterback. In the fourth quarter
in tight situations, the Broncos went up tempo, hurry up,
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however you want.
Speaker 4 (21:37):
To call it.
Speaker 3 (21:37):
But they were able to move the ball down the
field with efficiency.
Speaker 4 (21:40):
I'll take you back for just a second.
Speaker 3 (21:42):
Remember I think it was a Sunday night game against
the Patriots.
Speaker 4 (21:45):
The Broncos were down.
Speaker 3 (21:47):
Russ moved the ball down the field not once, but twice,
and the Broncos converted to two point conversions and everyone
was scratching their head, going like where was this earlier?
So some of the same things we saw last year
were seeing this year. And here's a great thing about
going two minute offense a rod. When you look at
that play sheet by any coach in the NFL, it
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looks like a restaurant menu. When you go to minute,
it reduces the amount of calls that you can actually make.
It reduces the amount of constantly exchanging the personnel from
the sideline. So now everything is go, go go. Receivers
got to be spot on. The quarterback's got to be
spot on with going through his progressions where he wants
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to go to ball, go with the ball before the
ball is snapped. Also, the offensive line, it forces them
to be able to block with a sense of urgency.
This is going to happen quickly so I don't have
to be in the long set.
Speaker 4 (22:40):
This is why you do it now.
Speaker 3 (22:42):
I'm not saying that you make this ninety percent of
your offense. I'm not saying that. But what you want
to do, you want to what we call on defense.
When I played in a coach NASCAR, having the ability
to speed it up when you need to, and slow
it down and bring it back when you need to
as well, that's where the Broncos office needs to be.
Speaker 1 (23:03):
So then answer me this. Then, when we see it
run so successfully and efficiently, and in moments where you
would say a young team essentially rushing along the offense
late in games, you would think, oh, well, this is
where you would get more false starts, this is where
you would see illegal formations whatnot. But we've seen it
so efficiently. So why has it only been by necessity
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and not their bread and butter early in games? Why
have they not given it a whirl earlier on? What's
the reasoning behind not given that a go early in games?
Speaker 3 (23:36):
Well, I don't know the reason why, but I'm going
to tell you what Coach Payton said when he was
asked this very question in the first quarter, there was
a penalty was I believe it was a false start.
In the second quarter it was Devonte, the ball was
knocked out. There was a fomble. So the idea was that, okay,
well they're trying to do that, but a fomble and
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a penalty took them out of it. Those things are
going to happen. The idea is that you have to
go back to the well and you have to trust
your players.
Speaker 4 (24:07):
You have to make it a point of emphasis in practice.
Speaker 3 (24:10):
Right my time planned for Mike Shanahan, we couldn't practice
every single scenario, but for the majority of our practices,
especially on Thursday and Friday, we went through situation in
football so everyone is aware of it. To give you
a quick synopsis, we practiced this play where we had
to rush our offense off the field, rush the field
(24:32):
goal team on the field with very limited time to
kick the game winn the field goal. We practiced that
every single day and we were wondering when the hell
are we gonna run We're gonna be in this situation
in a game until we were in that situation up
in Buffalo right playing against Terrell Owens. Owens and Marshawn Lynch,
(24:53):
we had about three to four seconds to get our
offense off the field. Jason Ingraam on the field, kick
the game, win a field goal. You got to practice
these things well.
Speaker 1 (25:03):
Lebroncos have had a plethora of learning experiences through these
first six weeks. Here is what Bonix said today about
those very learning experiences so far this season.
Speaker 6 (25:14):
Yeah, I think it's really important. You know, there's all
kinds of experiences, new experiences going on, you know, for me,
and it's important to treat each and every one of
them like like it's different, and you know, learn as
much as I can and grow as much as I
can from them. You know, we've been in you know,
literally almost every situation you know possible at this point.
(25:34):
So we just got to continue to battle and take
it one game at a time and keep learning when
our opportunities are there and not make the same mistakes
over and over.
Speaker 1 (25:43):
Something both said there actually is a really good point
in the first six weeks. They kind of have seen
the full gamut of all different kinds of stuff. I
think in terms of obviously wins and losses, you know,
three and three, you would hope to have won a couple more. Again,
you're still three and three. It's still I think I'm
extremely pleased with it. But six weeks outside of wins
and losses, Nick, would you agree that this team, in
(26:05):
terms of wanting to kind of see everything get bo
all these different opportunities, you know, different two minute drills,
coming from behind, playing on offense with the lead. They've
kind they've kind of run the gambit already in six
weeks so far, of all these different experiences that you
want to see BO kind of kind of collect.
Speaker 4 (26:24):
Yeah, they have.
Speaker 3 (26:24):
I mean, go from starting the season playing on the road,
hustle environment very loud in Seattle as a rookie, and
getting to a point where the Broncos had an opportunity
to do to go to win that game, and then
being in a situation where you are playing from behind
and trying to close out a game and then also
(26:46):
playing with a lead. Yes, you've gone through this gambit
of situations. So this is why when individuals criticize BO,
I tell those individuals go pound on sand and go
kick rocks, because what we're seeing is that the growth
and maturity of bow knicks take place right before our eyes.
(27:08):
And you said you have to grow. It's about growth,
not wins, and coming into this season, yeah, Bronco's country
was optimistic. They found their quarterback, but the biggest thing
was are you going to grow? And for me, yeah,
you want the wins, but I want to see the
team grow and develop. You already have a great defense.
We just need an offense to come pull however you
(27:31):
need to do it, come drag and pull along and
things will get better towards the end of the season.
Speaker 1 (27:36):
Collection of experience is another one coming Bow's way. Is
the first opportunity to play on a short week. Here
was Bo Nicks chatting about playing on a Thursday night.
Speaker 6 (27:47):
Well, it's definitely a nick I've never played in you know,
just under four days like this, So it's been a
fun challenge. You know, you kind of have to cram
everything all at once and just learn a lot at
one time. But that's you know, part of you know
the game. You know, a lot of guys have to
do that. It's part of the fund of playing on
a Thursday night. So we'll be ready to go and
(28:08):
we'll have a good plan and we just got to execute.
Speaker 1 (28:10):
And I bring that up because on the opposite side,
Nick is a quarterback in Spencer Ratler, who, unlike Bo Nicks,
who now has six weeks under his belt in his
NFL career, Spencer Rattler goes from preparing for his first
week to immediately going to a short week. So there's
no consistency in terms of what that experience has been
(28:34):
like for Spencer. And I bring that up because Spencer
Ratler now has to go against this Denver Broncos defense,
whereas bow Knicks seeing now what that New Orleans defense
just had to face off with with Tampa a fifty burger.
Advantage Bow in this offense on Thursday.
Speaker 4 (28:50):
Well, I would say advantage Bow.
Speaker 3 (28:52):
But also what comes along with that, a rod is
there's more pressure on the Broncos players in the staff
opposed to Dennis Allen in Spencer Ratler, Right, I mean,
no one and I haven't looked at the odds, but
I don't think anyone is probably picking the Saints to
win playing with the rookie quarterbacks, short week and the
possibility of not having too your top wide receivers in
(29:13):
the game, that's a problem. So for Spencer Rattler, he
can just kind of go out there and just play free,
right because everything is looking up for him, it is.
Now it becomes a challenge when when you look at
the Denver Broncos going into New Orleans and having to
play on a short week. So the pressure is not
(29:34):
on Spencer Spencer Ratler. No, no, no, he's going to
go and I'm not saying that his game is gonna
be flawless, but he's not playing with a lot of pressure.
Speaker 4 (29:42):
But this is he sees this as an opportunity. But
here's the other thing.
Speaker 3 (29:46):
We have Clint Kopiak who wants coached here right his
father we know about, you know, Gary Kubiak, But now
Clint's offense is going to be coaching against Sean Payton.
And for Clint, he's not gonna have all his key players,
so he's gonna have to become more creative because Taysom
Hill isn't playing at all. So that's why going back,
(30:07):
if the Saints pulled this game out and beat the Broncos,
that's another reason why would be so disappointing.
Speaker 1 (30:14):
Those first two weeks. The creativity what we saw on
that States offense was unreal. Now obviously full throttle all pieces,
Derek Carr totally different now going into Week seven. But
if there's someone now a short week with a guy
that's just about to make his second start in really
a week and a half as a starter in Spencer Ratler.
(30:36):
But man Clint Kobiack, he has the potential to really
show off here if he's able to put together a performance,
a game plan for Ratler and the pieces that they
do have playing against this defense, likely, Sayans Patsertan, that'll
be impressive and I'll be worried. And that is we're
gonna talk about next because we want to chat about
(30:59):
if there is a loss coming up here on Thursday
for the Broncos is to add more or less pressure
for the Denver Broncos and for Sean Payton moving forward,
because then you're talking about going back on a five
hundred three and four. Yeah, I know it's possible. Hopefully not.
Hopefully the Broncos take care of business against the beat
up Saints, and we saw against that defense coming up
(31:20):
on Thursday, But what if?
Speaker 4 (31:22):
What if?
Speaker 1 (31:23):
We're gonna talk about that coming up here in the
next segment. Again, get involved in the conversation. Common Spirit
Health text line is five six six nine zero. We
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Well three oh three seven one three eighty five eighty five.
He is Nick Ferguson. I am A Rod filling in
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