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Speaker 1 (00:00):
As with all bright Nick Ferguson, Shannon Scott out here, Nick,
it's better minute.
Speaker 2 (00:03):
You look totally different. So you've you've you've changed this.
Speaker 1 (00:06):
Week that that I've been out, I don't even.
Speaker 2 (00:08):
Recognize you anymore.
Speaker 3 (00:09):
Yeah, I've gone the bismin button way.
Speaker 4 (00:14):
I've gotten younger.
Speaker 1 (00:16):
I uh no, yeah, for those listening, been out a
little bit and a little under the weather. And uh,
you know, hoping the voice holds up as we we
roll back through this tonight.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
We'll see how it goes. May need you guys.
Speaker 1 (00:25):
Help a little bit on that broncos of course, coming
off the big win on Thursday night against In Orleans Saints,
big win against the Saints, thanks a little was shorthanded
in that one, so I don't want to sit there,
and you know, and and too to our own horn,
a little too too much on that one. But uh yeah,
I still it's good. Good to get a big win
on the road like that. And then you come back.
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You got the Carolina Panthers coming up a week from yesterday.
Get to see your old friend General Averell running the defense.
Speaker 4 (00:53):
There, toty jewel.
Speaker 2 (00:55):
But I was gonna say our old friend Josie Jewel
as well.
Speaker 1 (00:59):
You know, I Carolina, I think most Broncos fans would
look at that as an eminently winnable game. I would
say that you don't want to look past anybody in
this league, but I would say that you would think
that would be a winnable game.
Speaker 3 (01:12):
That's the understatement of the year. If there was one
game on the Broncos schedule moving.
Speaker 4 (01:19):
Forward that you could circle and say, well, that should
be a guarantee.
Speaker 3 (01:23):
When I did it last week with the Saints based
on how banged up they were and how their defense
was just kind of Swiss cheese.
Speaker 4 (01:31):
They couldn't stop the nose fleet.
Speaker 3 (01:33):
But yes, absolutely, when you look at the red rifle
Andy Dalton right coming in here to Denver and trying.
Speaker 4 (01:41):
To get a w. Yeah, that's a very winnable game.
Speaker 3 (01:45):
And if the Broncos continue to play like they played
on both sides of the ball, it should be no contest.
And then should it's kind of in their hopes and
that being the Panthers early in the game, if they can.
Speaker 1 (01:57):
Get that win, that gets them out to five and
three to the first half of the season and basically
needing one more win to best the sportsbooks who has
us at five and a half wins? I said the
over was a mortal lock. Hope you guys got those
in there, those bets in there.
Speaker 4 (02:11):
But that puts you at five and.
Speaker 1 (02:12):
Three going into what looks like the meat of the schedule.
You go back to back games against the Baltimore Ravens
who are playing to night Monday night football, against the
Tampa Bay Bucks. You get the Kansas City Chiefs and
our own head in there. You know, back to back games.
That is a that is a tough back to back
stretch that I think really could kind of shape the
identity of this team and tell us what we are
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going into the back half of the season.
Speaker 3 (02:34):
See, hello, how you reference the meat of the schedule?
Speaker 2 (02:39):
Would you rather I talked about the potatoes?
Speaker 3 (02:40):
Well, yeah, I would, because that would be the meat
and the potatoes of the schedule. Because you got two
back to back road wins that are really pivotal and
showing the development of this team.
Speaker 4 (02:53):
But more importantly bow Nicks.
Speaker 3 (02:56):
The first game is on the road against Baltimore, very
physical team both on offensive defense side of the ball.
Speaker 4 (03:01):
But then it's the.
Speaker 3 (03:02):
Kansas City Chiefs and they just continue to find ways
to win games. There were two plays yesterday by Patrick
Mahomes and I know we're talking about Broncos, but this
is a team that the Broncos will have to face
where he kind of juked a couple of guys on
the sideline, and then it was another play where he
just ran a guy over and just.
Speaker 4 (03:20):
Kind of looked at him.
Speaker 3 (03:21):
And it's just like, I know, there's a mataration process
of every quarterback, but we're seeing the Kansas City Chiefs
win in ways that we've never seen them win before
in years past.
Speaker 4 (03:32):
And for me, that that bothers me just a little.
Speaker 1 (03:34):
They had the league's arguably best quarterback and they're still
winning on defense.
Speaker 2 (03:38):
They're winning on defense.
Speaker 4 (03:40):
And look at the wide receivers. No Sky Moore, they
have nkoforms anybody.
Speaker 2 (03:45):
Less appropriately named than Skymore.
Speaker 3 (03:47):
Yes, and the exhibit you're worthy And you say, okay, well,
how are they finding ways?
Speaker 4 (03:53):
But that's what championship teams do.
Speaker 3 (03:57):
He's not gonna be perfect, but you just find ways
to win football games.
Speaker 4 (04:01):
And that's what the Broncos are trying to get.
Speaker 3 (04:03):
And over the past couple of weeks, we've seen them
struggle at times, but we've seen some signs that show
that they have the potential to move in the right
direction if there continues to be this evolution with the offense.
Speaker 1 (04:15):
Yeah, and you know, until someone to thrownes Kansas City,
they are going to be the owner of the AFC West,
the owner of the division. Someone has to come along
with their own. Now, we snapped the streak last year,
but we haven't moved to trying to take ownership yet
of the division.
Speaker 2 (04:30):
Tough Chargers team.
Speaker 1 (04:31):
As well, and they smoked them obviously this past weekend
as well. Any of the games from this past weekend
that really jumped out at you, well.
Speaker 3 (04:38):
The game with the Commanders because you had Jaydon Dais,
who was having successful a rookie campaign goes out with
what appears to be somewhat of a rib injury and
income the veteran Marcus Mariota. And this is the one
thing I love about the NFL, because guys get drafted
and more important quarterback position very and there's a lot
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of expectations and some guys meet those expectations, some guys
fall off, and there's a lot of things, a lot
of contributing factors that determine whether got is successful or not.
But we see a lot of former first round draft
quarterbacks who are now in backup roles. Think about what's
happening with Jamis Winston, who's now going to be thrust
into the role now that Deshaun Watson is out for
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the year, and Joe but Flacco.
Speaker 4 (05:25):
This is the year of the backup quarterback.
Speaker 1 (05:27):
Yeah, and it bothers me. That game jumped out of
me too. I don't know if you watched the Colt
game at all. Anthony Richardson does not look like a
starting caliber quarterback in this league. They find ways to
get big plays and they're winning off the defense, but
Anthony Richardson does not look like he belongs as the
starter right there. Joe Flacco looks significantly better, and I mean,
I guess he should have as a multi tenured veteran.
But at the same time, you're a team that it's
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looking to make a playoff run.
Speaker 2 (05:52):
It looks to look to make hay in.
Speaker 5 (05:53):
The division, and you're turning back to a guy who clearly.
Speaker 3 (05:57):
Needs more seasonal Well, sometimes simple is better, and a
lot of these situations you have teams who.
Speaker 4 (06:05):
Draft quarterbacks, like I said, in the first round and
you try to force him into action.
Speaker 3 (06:09):
And I know the idea is to let them learn
on a job, but you got to think with Richardson,
he's coming off of a major shoulder injury, and I
wonder how that impacted him. And obviously he got all
those reps before Joe Flacco got there. But still at
the same time, there are certain things that may be
a little off.
Speaker 4 (06:28):
And keep this in mind in mind too when we
look at.
Speaker 3 (06:30):
The Colts, and so we look at any quarterback situation,
the first thing I go to is line protection, and
then the next thing I go to is what skilled
players do they have to help them out. And when
you think about Richardson being, you know, as athletic gains
he is, maybe he kind of relied on that entirely
too much. But Joe Flacco knows that he doesn't have
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the athleticism.
Speaker 4 (06:53):
He's not as.
Speaker 3 (06:54):
Fast as he once was, and still even that is
not fast. So he has a really on these other
skill sets. So maybe that's probably the problem and the solution.
Speaker 1 (07:04):
One of the other big games of the weekend the
Sunday night football game, in which I was blasting Mark
Morrison at full volume in return of the mac Russell
Wilson comes back.
Speaker 5 (07:13):
And people were kind of savaging him a little bit early.
Speaker 1 (07:16):
He had that one pass out there to the flats
that you know, he kind of dirt darted through a
couple of word burners early, but it certainly picked it
up as it went along and was making some great
place on some deep throws.
Speaker 2 (07:26):
George Pickens was making some great catches on some deep balls.
Speaker 1 (07:30):
What did you think about Russ's return and the Steelers
trouncing the Jets.
Speaker 3 (07:34):
Well, I was happy about what I saw, and I
knew the fact that you miss six weeks.
Speaker 4 (07:41):
He hited a lot of preseason from Russell.
Speaker 3 (07:44):
He was going to be no pun attended rusty, and
that's what we saw coming out of the gate.
Speaker 4 (07:50):
And then he started selling down.
Speaker 3 (07:52):
You know, once again, I look at it like this,
and I related back to basketball. The first time you
see a ball go through the net, the more confidence
you started to see Bill and we saw some of
that Vinus Russ come up the well. He made one
play off the off the naked bootleg. The defender was
right in his face and he just kind of whipped
it really quickly out into the flat. That was vintage
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Russell Wilson, but it was good to seem, you know,
to Stillers get a win at home, George Pickens, you know,
start to emerge.
Speaker 4 (08:23):
And here's another thing.
Speaker 3 (08:24):
I mean, when I was watching the game and I'm
scratching my head, I was like, wait a minute, I've
kind of seen this movie a little before, right, Russ
developing chemistry with another wide receiver wearing another fort and
I was just like, well, that's great. And look and
no one's was shots down the field, h shots down
the field. So those things in that chemistry to a
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quarterback and wide receiver man can never be underestimated.
Speaker 2 (08:48):
Makes a lot of sense.
Speaker 1 (08:48):
Nick called me last night and just started doing the
little John shots shots shots, you know, balls down the
field shots, and then hung up on me.
Speaker 2 (08:55):
Before I could saying it's kind of weird.
Speaker 1 (08:57):
Actually five six, six nine year old text on you
guys would get well of the conversation.
Speaker 2 (09:01):
Uh.
Speaker 4 (09:01):
A couple other couple.
Speaker 1 (09:03):
Of the games that I thought were interesting. You had
the Lions and the Vikings. O that was that was
a fun, fun, fun game to uh to watch and uh,
you know, I mean a back and forth. You had
a double digit lead by the Vikings and then a
double digit lead by the Lions and the Vikings working
the way all the way back and they couldn't get
the two point conversion. That that you know it's that
was That was fun football right there, Jared Goff, she's
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got more touchdowns and incompletions over the last four games.
Speaker 4 (09:27):
Well, once a game man.
Speaker 3 (09:28):
That should be evidence that you never judge a book
by cover, because most people had written Jared golf Off uh,
Steve uh Coach Fisher did when he was with the Rams,
and then Sean McVay came and they went to the
super Bowl, and then most perceived, okay, with that run
is over now and let me go trade for a
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more adequate quarterback.
Speaker 4 (09:51):
But when you believe in.
Speaker 3 (09:52):
Yourself, you got a coaching staff like they have with
their Detroit Lions, and a coach like Dan Campbellman, I
would love to of play for a coach like Dan
Campbell to trying to run through a wall because the
love of excitement that he has.
Speaker 4 (10:05):
Remember when he first had the first interview.
Speaker 3 (10:08):
And he talked about and everyone made fun of him,
but he has those guys in that Detroit.
Speaker 4 (10:14):
Locker role buying into what he's selling.
Speaker 1 (10:16):
It's kind of funny because a lot of the stuff
that gets laughed at of the national media that the
bite Meecass and Dan Campbell.
Speaker 2 (10:22):
Remember those videos that John Gannon came out early and
it's all these.
Speaker 4 (10:26):
Guys to get clown for.
Speaker 2 (10:27):
And then you go watch during the season.
Speaker 4 (10:28):
You got that they got these teams playing out.
Speaker 2 (10:30):
Of their minds.
Speaker 3 (10:31):
Well, the reason that happens is because players want to
play loose and free.
Speaker 4 (10:36):
They don't want to play tight. The game is a lot.
Speaker 3 (10:40):
Of pressure within its own right, but allowing guys to
just play free and understand, okay, well do you.
Speaker 4 (10:46):
Want to make mistakes? I did, though I don't want
you to make the same mistake.
Speaker 3 (10:49):
Over again, while allowing guys to play play really comfortable.
Speaker 4 (10:53):
I mean, we're gonna probably see.
Speaker 3 (10:55):
That tonight with Baker Mayfield, Lamar Jackson, Kyler Murray and Herbert.
When you think about Kansas City is like Andy Reid
allows to mean Patrick Mahomes who play that freely and
going back to Thursday Night game, they just seemed for
the first time of the season, bow Knicks was given
the reins to just go out there and just be you.
Speaker 5 (11:16):
What did you think about Kansas City game?
Speaker 2 (11:18):
What did you think? What did you think about that one.
Speaker 4 (11:20):
It was very interesting, very very talent.
Speaker 3 (11:23):
Once again where Kansas City is right now, but also
where the San Francisco forty nine ers are struggling. And
they were a favor to make the not just the playoffs,
but vis back in.
Speaker 4 (11:37):
The super Bowl against Kansas City.
Speaker 3 (11:39):
But man, they have been derailed by injury here and there.
They moves in Brendan, I you for the season, I
believe in acl. If you think about Deebo Samuels, I
think he's going to the hospital because of some kind
of pneumonia or something in his lungs, and you know
see him. See he's been going off season long. So
how many more weapons than you lose as an organization?
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And Kyle Shannyhan can still be able to do it.
But I'll tell you this, if they are somehow able
to overcome this and still make it to the playoffs
and make a lot of noise, gotta say a lot
about both John Lynch and Kyle shney Hill's not a.
Speaker 1 (12:17):
Lot of people talking about the Niners window whether or
not that's closing because you have the imminent payday for
Brock Party coming up. But I'm like, look if brock
Party is the plan and Kyle.
Speaker 2 (12:27):
Shanahan's the coach, then you're always in the window.
Speaker 4 (12:29):
Right.
Speaker 3 (12:30):
No, See that is speaking to something that I don't
really subscribe to the whole idea that everything rests with
the quarterback. I don't really think so, because every quarterback
needs a supporting cast, and that's what we saw yesterday.
Speaker 4 (12:46):
With Brock Purdy. His supporting cast wasn't around him.
Speaker 3 (12:50):
As much as he needed to, and it kind of
exposed a lot of things about him. Let's not not
say that he I don't believe.
Speaker 4 (12:57):
That he is a good quarterback. I truly believe that.
Speaker 3 (13:01):
But you're only as good as the weapons around you.
In case in point, I mean John Elway, hell of
a quarterback, Hall of Fame quarterback? How good with John
Elway before Mike Sheneyhan, before to Row Davis and before
the lot of changes on that Broncos offense?
Speaker 2 (13:17):
Good but not as great as he could have been.
Speaker 3 (13:18):
See see what you just said, good but but not great? Right,
It's like keating of State. Maybe that I.
Speaker 2 (13:25):
Cooked right, Yeah, it's over overcooked.
Speaker 5 (13:28):
It's good, but not gonna overcooked.
Speaker 1 (13:30):
We we got a Benjamin Button at steak, get it,
get it back? Get it back the other way exactly.
Broncos Country Tonight, Benjamin all Bright, Nick Ferguson live down here,
Sporty Pickle. That brings me to the last thing I
want to talk about this opener here before we deep
dive on some stuff, and that would see you trousing Arizona,
going on the road, trouncing Arizona. And you know the
thing about Colorado, the reason they're winning this year and
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all the hype is on Travis and Shadour, but they're
winning because Livingson's got that defense playing at a level
that it should be, playing at a level they did
not achieved last season. You saw them shut the run
down in Central Florida, you saw them shut everything down
in Arizona. To me, the defense is the reason this
thing is turning around. And Colorado has some nine wins
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over the course of two seasons for the first time
since Gary Barnett was in charge.
Speaker 3 (14:17):
Well, I mean, this has been a long time since
the Buffs have been in this situation.
Speaker 4 (14:21):
And just consider this.
Speaker 3 (14:23):
I mean twenty twenty was the last time the Buffs
were in the Bowl game, and I believe that was
against Texas and they lost like twenty three fifty five, right,
and there was about ten thousand people in attendance. I mean, look, transparency,
We have more people like that at a high school
game that I played in a play.
Speaker 4 (14:42):
So the whole idea is that things.
Speaker 3 (14:44):
Have definitely changed around and Robert Livson is a huge
part of that. But I would say this, the Buffs
had players this year that they didn't have last year.
And when you think about Levonte Bentley at that linebacker position.
Speaker 4 (14:57):
I mean he was there last year, but it's like.
Speaker 3 (15:00):
He's playing entirely different now and you had to say, well,
coach Libison is putting him in position to make plays
and then making plays. And look, this may not be
as popular, but Simon Craig, look, I love watching his
kid play. And when Shallow Sanders was out, he stepped
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up to the plate and I felt like to see
you Buff's secondary was playing much better with.
Speaker 4 (15:27):
Shallow Sanders wasn't in the game.
Speaker 1 (15:29):
I agree with that, and that's a tough call for,
you know, for coach Prime. I think when when you
look at that, I thought they were playing better without
him in there too, And that's something that needs to
be looked at because you you have a a sort
of conflict of interest between you know, coach and dad
in that scenario. That's something that I really do believe
we needs to be looked at. I thought, so you
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played very well, and they've sort of positioned themselves now
to be in the thick of this thing down the stretch.
I don't know if they're necessarily gonna, you know, gonna
wind up making the playoffs or any that kind of stuff,
but they sort of positioned themselves really well as they
head into the second half of the season.
Speaker 3 (16:03):
Well, the biggest things for them is focusing on winning
the next game and being bowl eligible because coach Bribin
talked about it before that he's trying to get MS
Peggy to a bowl game, not just any bowl game
like a Big Bull game, right, and understanding that this
team had been both to a bowl game since twenty twenty,
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it is very important and it is definitely vied to
and I think they're capable of getting the winz necessary
to qualify for a bowl, but it would be great
if they were able to get into the twelve team
now college football playoffs.
Speaker 4 (16:39):
So it definitely would be interesting for them to do that.
Speaker 1 (16:41):
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Speaker 5 (16:48):
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We want to get into a little bit about bo Nicks.
Speaker 4 (17:07):
Something.
Speaker 1 (17:07):
I've noticed that it's wrong with bon Nicks and I've
got a plan to fix it so that we're not
starting to slow Yes to Brocos Country to night right
here on Kaway.
Speaker 2 (17:16):
Well Mark Morrison there.
Speaker 1 (17:17):
Return of the mac songs always gets you hyped up.
Man says, that's a windows down in the summertime song.
Speaker 4 (17:23):
Wait a minute, that song doesn't get you hype this
it does? So it does it?
Speaker 6 (17:28):
Or did you listen to Shania twain pregame it makes
you more relaxed?
Speaker 4 (17:31):
You just said you listen to that song with the windows.
Speaker 2 (17:34):
Sometimes you need to get high.
Speaker 1 (17:35):
Sometimes you need to get relaxed in order to be
more hype, which segues right into what I want to
talk about about our nervous nelly quarterback there Bo Nicks,
who comes out with way too much energy right there
at the beginning of games.
Speaker 2 (17:45):
You could tell he's so high strung.
Speaker 1 (17:47):
You saw that ball he airmailed in between was it
vele and crawl I think or whoever was out there
at the time, And you know, as I watch Bo,
this is a correctable thing. But he comes out almost
two jacked.
Speaker 2 (17:59):
Up for games two high strung. It would be getting
to me.
Speaker 3 (18:02):
I could one be too jacked up, too, too high,
strong too, you're pressing early because you you're too energetic.
Speaker 1 (18:09):
It's like he drank too many red bulls before he
goes out there, and he takes him into settle down.
Speaker 2 (18:13):
He sails passes, he's throwing behind guys.
Speaker 1 (18:15):
And until he settles down, which we usually see, you know,
midway through the second quarter, we see a quarterback who
looks like he's just he's got nerves.
Speaker 6 (18:24):
Whether that's nervous sat wait wait, wait, put that in context.
He got nerves, what.
Speaker 4 (18:30):
Does that mean?
Speaker 2 (18:31):
It means he's in a translation to him, I'm trying
to my best explace.
Speaker 1 (18:34):
He's again his jittery, he's high, strong, he's he's like,
he's just too energetic to start the game.
Speaker 3 (18:39):
You're talking about bowl as though he is someone's pet
that's been locked up in the garage time like two
weeks and then you let him out and he's running
all over or no, he's not kind of, that's not true.
Speaker 4 (18:54):
No, no, no, I'm not gonna let lot sit here
and allow you to say that.
Speaker 3 (18:59):
Now, can't we say that maybe both needs to be
better with his footwork, yes, but trying to take a
little edge off. No, I want my players to play
with the edge all of the time.
Speaker 4 (19:13):
Because here's what you I know this about football, as
I know this about acting right, that it's.
Speaker 3 (19:19):
Best if someone has to turn you down instead.
Speaker 4 (19:23):
Of turning you up.
Speaker 2 (19:24):
I agree with that.
Speaker 3 (19:25):
So for me, I want him to just go out
there and play with that energy and play with that Bob.
The only thing is is just be sound fundamentally, that's.
Speaker 1 (19:33):
It, okay, But the problem is he seems to be
forgetting those fundamentals again because he's too dialed up, and.
Speaker 4 (19:39):
You can you can see it.
Speaker 1 (19:41):
You can see how frenetic he's playing early on before
he finally settles into it, Like I don't know if
it's the second wind or whatever it is at that
moment where he kind of settles in and then we
all of a sudden we see bon X be effective.
Speaker 2 (19:53):
This is the reason the Broncos aren't scoring.
Speaker 1 (19:55):
Her, It's the reason they're looking it's early quick drive.
He just he's not accurate with the football. He loses
his fundamentals early. And for me, I'm like, there's a
solution for this.
Speaker 2 (20:06):
I learned some read options stuff.
Speaker 1 (20:07):
Get him to expend energy early and burn that stuff
off real quick, and then you can kind of, you know.
Speaker 4 (20:11):
Work him in.
Speaker 3 (20:12):
Wait, wait, man, I know we all almost close to Halloween,
but you talk about bowl once again to make a
comp as he's like a five year old kid hopped
up on cotton.
Speaker 4 (20:23):
Candy and I'm out new Yeah, absolutely no, it's not.
Speaker 3 (20:28):
His problem is that he needs to stay within the foundation, in.
Speaker 4 (20:34):
The framework of his footwork.
Speaker 3 (20:37):
That is this problem where he was missing those throws.
He's not stepping into him, he's not transferring his weight
from the back foot to the front foot and following
through that has nothing to do with his industry.
Speaker 2 (20:49):
We both agree that he's losing his fundamals. Let's start there.
Speaker 1 (20:51):
Fundamentally, what I'm saying is is that the reason that
he loses his fundamentals is because he's gotten to this
point where he's so energetic and frantic of whatever else.
Early on, he's just he's not remembering the things he
should be remembering and playing within himself at that point
until he settles down later in a game.
Speaker 3 (21:07):
Well, for me, watching Bold, it's about setting him up,
and I would agree.
Speaker 4 (21:13):
With the part of getting him comfortable.
Speaker 3 (21:16):
What are some of the plays that are the go
to plays for both? Now, hence what I'm saying, the
go to plays for Bold the quarterback. So for me,
I would always go back and look at what made
both special at Oregon and then try to tell her
the system to fit what he was able to do
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instead of vice versa. Because we're all creature of habit,
and once we do certain things that we're familiar with
that we get into a rhythm. Now we get able
to woo Sah in a way because now things are
a faun. So for me, it's not the thing of Bold.
I've heard people say, well, he's overthinking it. I've even
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heard people say well he can't make NFL throws.
Speaker 6 (22:03):
To disagree with those, I say, cow chips to all
of that. I'm with you on that page.
Speaker 1 (22:08):
I just say, like what I see as a guy
who looks a little too jacked up early in games.
It looks like he's a little too ready to go,
too energetic whatever.
Speaker 4 (22:16):
And I'm with you.
Speaker 1 (22:17):
They're not one to dial it down versus that, you know,
dialing it up and all that kind of stuff.
Speaker 2 (22:20):
I'm with you on that. I just I don't know.
Speaker 1 (22:22):
For me, it's it's finding a way, and I guess
you just phrased it the right way. They're getting him
comfortable early in games. For me, that's do something that's
going to cause him to expand to energy early, like
like run run, a couple of readoptions, get him to
do something to where he's okay, now I'm in the now,
I'm in the group, you know how. You know what
we're talking about, Like that first play when you're on
a field. Maybe it's different for defenders for something, but
that first play where you're too geek that you've listened
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to music, you did you stretching you were.
Speaker 5 (22:45):
It's that first play. You are amped and ready to go,
and there's a.
Speaker 2 (22:48):
Little bit of sometimes a penchant for being over energetic
on that first play.
Speaker 1 (22:53):
It's like a it's like an inexperienced boxer, you know,
and they're out there spending haymakers in the first round
and they're out of energy by the.
Speaker 4 (22:59):
Time they to the middle round.
Speaker 1 (23:00):
So you got a guy here who you need to
bring in and you know, kind of chill.
Speaker 2 (23:03):
And hamp him off.
Speaker 4 (23:05):
Well, for me, defensively, that that's that's different. For me.
Speaker 3 (23:09):
It's about being amped up and trying to exert that
that energy that you have by running through someone's freaking face. Yeah,
that's what you want to do, and that was one
of those things for me. I needed to get that
first hit to kind of work that.
Speaker 4 (23:23):
Energy off, you know. Okay, so if I couldn't, I'm
running around.
Speaker 3 (23:26):
I'm pushing teammates out of the way, Sae, I'm trying
to hit somebody in the face.
Speaker 1 (23:29):
See, okay, we're on the same page here. It's a
little bit different for the offense because you don't get
to do that. You're trying to run away from the
guys hitting you. But more or less like.
Speaker 4 (23:35):
That's the thing.
Speaker 1 (23:36):
I just see a guy who uh looks like it
takes him a minute to sort of get to that
that settled down place, like that first hit whatever it is.
Speaker 2 (23:44):
Maybe he needs to take his first hit early.
Speaker 1 (23:47):
Maybe he maybe we need to like you know, run
like I said, run some run, some read option stuff
at the beginning there where he's got a chance to
pull the ball and go burn a little bit of
energy and and then sort of settle in earlier.
Speaker 4 (23:57):
No, I mean to settle boat in earlier. Here's what
you have to do.
Speaker 3 (24:01):
Go back to Thursday night game against the Saints. We
saw the Broncos offense doing several things that they haven't
done all season along and dare I say they didn't
even do or in attempt last year. But Russell was
the quarterback when you saw Troy Franklin on those kind
of orbit motions and then trying to dumb it to
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him in the flat.
Speaker 4 (24:24):
To me, those are the things that you.
Speaker 3 (24:27):
Want to do because now and not only gets your
receivers into somewhat of a rhythm, it settles down on
the offensive line, It settles.
Speaker 4 (24:34):
Down your quarterback because now you're seeing a positive play
that's the whole thing. Can we see positive plays?
Speaker 2 (24:42):
Well, I think that's part of it. You just stacking
that stuff early as well. I just I don't know.
Speaker 5 (24:46):
Watching Bow and watching him in the Saints game, I'm
looking at it.
Speaker 4 (24:48):
I'm like, man, does this guy just does he need
to settle down for.
Speaker 1 (24:51):
A couple of plays and then and then because I
watched him drop into a rhythm shortly thereafter, you treating
him like a toddler.
Speaker 4 (24:57):
Maybe he's your rookie house.
Speaker 2 (24:59):
We're gonna treat him.
Speaker 3 (24:59):
No, don't treat him like an NFL quarterback and treat
him with respect, holds him accountable for the mistakes that
he makes, but also understand what he's capable of doing.
Speaker 2 (25:09):
Well, I see what he's capable of doing. I just
want to get in there earlier in the game.
Speaker 3 (25:12):
Well, once again, it's slow rhythmic throns and it's real simple.
Like the Broncos have not used their tight end even
though it's tight ends on the roster. Here's something that's
really simple that gets them into a flowing a quarterback.
You block out the outside pass Russia one one thousand
and two, one thousand and then you slide off right.
You can run a stick bottle and then know what
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it sets up later on in the game. You go,
why shape?
Speaker 4 (25:36):
Right? All these things it's rhythmically.
Speaker 2 (25:39):
Don't run why stick?
Speaker 1 (25:39):
And I would be I would be running, you know,
pitch and catch? Why sticks is pitch and catch? Yes,
pitch and catch. Like the other thing we don't run
really is shallow crossers. If you're going to have compressed
sets like that, why aren't we running shallow cross.
Speaker 4 (25:50):
It's the easiest throwing them.
Speaker 2 (25:51):
It's the easiest thrown. It's the easiest throw.
Speaker 3 (25:53):
The Broncos have run versions of shallow crossers, but they
have been run where I am kind of familiar with,
because you get a shaller crosser from my idea to
tight end and the receiver opposite him and the cut
and split. But also you still have somewhat of a
drive route where you have someone pushing up feel and
turn around from eight to twelve on the number on
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the I guess the hashes flashing their numbers. So now
the quarterback has easy reads one two, three, progression of reads.
Speaker 4 (26:22):
Oo, I mean and I should be a quarterback? No?
I should you? No? No?
Speaker 2 (26:29):
I should Yeah, I don't know if you're I don't
know if you're ready for that. I'm ready for that.
I want to see it. I want to see Nick
Ferguson quarterback.
Speaker 3 (26:35):
See see I'm the wrong person because they may be
telling me to throw it.
Speaker 4 (26:39):
I'm pulling it.
Speaker 3 (26:40):
Down, running, running into ball carriers.
Speaker 4 (26:44):
I'm looking for the content.
Speaker 5 (26:48):
I send you that clip, I said you, I know
I said that one of the clip.
Speaker 2 (26:51):
No, they said they were running a lead that I
sent you that one. No, they were in a pistol
g lead at where it was and I can't remember
what the school was.
Speaker 1 (26:58):
I said that, I'll show you the clip or the
break it to Steve and he's like, oh, somebody actually
ran the stupid play and it had success.
Speaker 4 (27:04):
So I'm like, here it is.
Speaker 3 (27:06):
Well, you know what, Listen, the whole thing is outside
of the box, thinking right, trying to be as creative
as one can. Because the game, just like life, is
an evolution. Why we we we can't continue to share.
I always say this, and I say this to my
son today. If someone bites this, you've got to give
Nick Ferguson credit for it. You can't become the person
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you were meant to be by remaining who you are.
That that rule in that phrase, I use it and
when I go on and talk to people, because you
can apply that to anything in life, and the same
thing is can be used when you're looking at the
game of football. But we're all creatures of habits. But
sometimes we have to break habits.
Speaker 6 (27:49):
And you a guy like that that love numbers, Yes,
break in tendency, Yes, why I can't?
Speaker 4 (27:55):
You can't.
Speaker 2 (27:56):
You can't run the same play?
Speaker 1 (27:57):
No, right unless you're me and you know you didn't
cla football and you could definitely run the same play
over and over laughing.
Speaker 2 (28:05):
While you do it. Maniahically I know, I mean, you're
you're absolutely right.
Speaker 4 (28:08):
You don't need to.
Speaker 1 (28:09):
Break tennenancies and all that kind of stuff. I just
I thought it was hilarious. It's like, you know what,
you know, who'd be the perfect quarterback.
Speaker 2 (28:14):
For my offense.
Speaker 4 (28:15):
It would be Nick.
Speaker 2 (28:16):
A quarterback that seeks.
Speaker 1 (28:17):
Out contact, just like the kid from I don't know,
if you have a chance to watch me up in
an army, which by way is ranked now, but Army
is ranked now. That brings a tear to my eye.
You know it's a quarterback that seeks out contact.
Speaker 2 (28:30):
Oh I love it.
Speaker 4 (28:31):
Well, see listen.
Speaker 3 (28:32):
If you love that whole idea, then the guy you
need a quarterback is Steve Atwater who played.
Speaker 1 (28:37):
Well yeah, boy, Sir Cam Newton, Josh Allen, you know
any one of those guys to run what it is
that I now like?
Speaker 3 (28:44):
You like that throwback old school nineteen eighty Oklahoma.
Speaker 4 (28:49):
Full house backfield. Yes to Mail Holloway, we got so.
Speaker 1 (28:52):
Many best back there I could accommodate you all come
to my school exactly, exactly.
Speaker 3 (28:58):
Okay, So with that being sad, you were not here
when I brought this up. When we're looking at the
fact that I think it's fifteen days until the tread
deadline November fit, and I said, well, here's what I
would love to see the Broncos do. And I brought
up a guy by the name of Levisius Formal heard
of him, Yes, yes, yes, he saws a pharmacy you
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bought them like, Look, he would be great as one
of those gadget players.
Speaker 4 (29:24):
A joker, a joker.
Speaker 3 (29:26):
Something that Sean Payton said that he doesn't have that
gives the Broncos a joker. If you wanted to run
design quarterback keepers, he can do that. You want in
the rounds you want to put a guy running back.
Speaker 4 (29:36):
He can do all of those things for you for
a moderate price.
Speaker 2 (29:41):
I have everything's for a price.
Speaker 4 (29:43):
That was a moderate price. You don't even have to
pay him that much money.
Speaker 1 (29:46):
Well, it doesn't cost that much to go getting me though,
Like Siantle's just sitting there, burn up, burning him up
using it and ben all I've.
Speaker 4 (29:51):
Been thinking about. Okay, we're talking about boat Nicks and
his development is footwork, all those things. It had come
along at some point, but.
Speaker 3 (29:58):
It's all about building weapons around him to make him
successful a rah like Dan Lanning had at Oregon.
Speaker 1 (30:07):
Which, by the way, you know we're drafting his college
tests company. We all were all agree on this, right,
we're all agreed, like this is gonna be the Broncos
and drafted testis like we're all agreed on Hey.
Speaker 3 (30:17):
Man, listen, if you want to call them the Broncos Ducks,
I'm okay with it.
Speaker 1 (30:21):
Well they're the Saint Ducks. They're the Ducks Saints one
of the two cod. Yes, because we got little Jordan
and all the all these sports Saints guys he brings
over and then the organ Ducks were because we.
Speaker 3 (30:30):
Got and it is no you're the Storting Division talking
about Saint Ducks. No, we are the Denver Broncos. So
it is the Broncos Ducks, the Saints stuff. Yeah, you
have a bunch of.
Speaker 5 (30:44):
Coaches, We've got all the coaches and players and everything else.
Speaker 3 (30:47):
Yes, but but but we are the Denver Broncos. This
is Broncos Country. This is not New Orleans.
Speaker 2 (30:52):
It's not I think he's knowledge.
Speaker 3 (30:54):
Well know LANs No Orleans now Laters, I don't care
what you call it.
Speaker 4 (30:58):
This is the Broncos Country.
Speaker 2 (31:00):
Five six six zeros the text slide. I yeah, that
is a It is a funny thing.
Speaker 5 (31:04):
Somebody that was talking to the other day about the
Ducks and they were.
Speaker 2 (31:06):
Like, yeah, we're n you know, we're drafted.
Speaker 1 (31:07):
We have to draft him because like all the other
Ducks that we already had between Forsyth at Balceski and
Nicks and Franklin.
Speaker 5 (31:12):
And it's just, uh, you know, Broncos had been a
team that.
Speaker 1 (31:16):
Uh it drafts several players out of big time schools.
You look at Duffers Ohio State. We took Baron Brawning
and Jonathan Cooper at the same school at the same time. Uh,
we've we've We've never had a problem going after Ohio
State players. And uh, there was a thing a long
time about John Elway not taking Alabama players, although we
certainly took Jerry Judy and we brought in uh Kareeine Jackson,
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Patzer Tan obviously we drafted from from Alabama.
Speaker 2 (31:41):
So the Broncos really have not had uh.
Speaker 1 (31:42):
They had to break their tendencies. Maybe maybe that's what
it was. I do And you know what, I think,
Steve at one and I'd be be happy if they would.
Speaker 2 (31:49):
Break the tendencies bring in some razorbacks. I'm just saying,
just saying, by the.
Speaker 1 (31:53):
Way, at quarterback they got down there at Georgia Tech
kings King, I like him.
Speaker 4 (31:56):
Yes, he's got a little little some tools, he's got
a little he's got.
Speaker 2 (31:59):
A litt we'll shoot me in and shake to him.
I'm just saying, I like I like his game.
Speaker 4 (32:02):
We're going to a chance to get into that here
Speaker 1 (32:04):
In the next segment, we'll talk a little bit about
CEU and where they go from here, what this road
is paid for them, Because there were some games that
looked a little bit more difficult for them, They now
all of a sudden looked very winnable based on the
performances they put together and the way the defenses come together,
just in a Broncos country tonight right here on kit
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