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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Well, come to it Broncos Country tonight. But with all Bride,
Dick Ferguson, Grant Smith, guys, you know what I mean.
I think all four of us here kind of had
it upbringing that was maybe less than affluent. Right, well,
we all had a little, well a little bit of
a hard scrabble upbringing, and we all en grew up
in baller neighborhoods with gated communities. What was Butler, Chauncey?
Speaker 2 (00:21):
What was he like?
Speaker 1 (00:22):
I wish Chauncy Smacklehaney. I was just thinking the reason
I say that, at what point did you realize that
you got soft? Because I just realized a minute ago,
and I refused to put those headphones on because the
phone padding is worn out on one side and the
metal kind of digs into my head a little bit.
So I went all the way around and stole this
other pair of headphones from Grant and came back in here,
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and I'm like, the whole way back, I'm.
Speaker 2 (00:44):
Realizing, you know how soft I've gotten. I'm getting so
soft that I can't use those headphones anymore. I have
to use these cushy headphones. You've gotten boozy, your diva,
I did I went and got soft. I'm just saying, like, you.
Speaker 1 (00:56):
Know, you guys, at what point did you did you
realize you wouldn't get solved?
Speaker 3 (00:59):
Me when you when you do this just about every
day and you got to put on headphones. Yeah, that's
that's important to you. Like there was a last a week,
so I don't mind putting those.
Speaker 2 (01:08):
You don't want to put this on. I'm just like
you trying to. I don't know why, but that just
struck me. As I'm walking back, I'm like, man, I
would have got soft. Let me see your hands, you
see turn them around? Yeah? Yeah, is it? No callousies,
no callouses on that. No callous callous is on no callus.
Speaker 4 (01:26):
Since I've done a real, actual manual lab, I'm glad.
Speaker 2 (01:30):
You put that out there for people so they actually
know the last time I did.
Speaker 1 (01:34):
Like I can tell you the last time I did
when I threw those boots up in the tree in
April fifteenth to twenty thirteen.
Speaker 2 (01:39):
I know exactly the date. The last time I'm the
form manual labor wow moving or something like that.
Speaker 1 (01:44):
You know hel about buddy move. It's a little different,
but yeah.
Speaker 2 (01:46):
Last time I did, you hit it on the head,
Steven got a little boogie. Yeah, man, little boozy.
Speaker 4 (01:51):
I'm I'm coming on the gate saying, I'm asking you
guys when you first got soft that you guys are
trying to deny it.
Speaker 2 (01:57):
Here, look at my hand. Do you see that? What
do you see?
Speaker 1 (02:02):
He went from the bar? Yeah, listen, that's what it
used to be, my homie night. You act like you
don't know me. I mean, I don't know myself anymore.
That's what I'm getting my six sixth.
Speaker 2 (02:18):
Had zeros and text line. Guys.
Speaker 1 (02:20):
We're coming off Thursday at football primetime win against in
New Orleans. We got the NFC South coming up here
at the Carolina Panthers. And you know, there's not too
many games in the NFL where you say, well that's
a gimmey, but.
Speaker 2 (02:34):
This certainly looks like a winnable game for the Denver
broncos Man. We better blow them boys out the way
we did New Orleans. Well, I mean, keep this in mind.
I'm not gonna say that because you know.
Speaker 5 (02:47):
That, oh yeah, well it might be Bryce Young Mike
is playing this game. I'm not certain on that because
I don't know if you guys saw it earlier today
there was a report from Carolina Panthers that Andy Dalton
and it's we got into a car accident and luckily
with their reporting that the injuries don't seem to be
(03:07):
that major, but they did go to the hospital, so
that may.
Speaker 2 (03:12):
Be something that may change the game for Sunday.
Speaker 5 (03:15):
Or let's just say Andy Dalton does play. Every team
is always looking for something to inspire them. That could
be something that could inspire them. And hopefully the Broncos
are not tipping and allow Andy Dalton and to kill
down the Panthers to try to steal a win.
Speaker 2 (03:34):
No, no, no, no tipping, no tipping. No.
Speaker 3 (03:37):
Everything they know, they know, anything can happen.
Speaker 2 (03:44):
I'm not taking anything for anything to the Jarro Averro
revenge shangle, any of that. I don't think so Chelsea
Jewell coming back.
Speaker 5 (03:54):
No, every time a player comes back, usually the storylines
and narratives or someone built that way.
Speaker 2 (04:01):
But is it really a revenge game?
Speaker 5 (04:04):
Because if I'm not mistaken, both individuals, I mean, they
didn't leave the way they wanted to leave, but I
don't think that there was no there's any bitterness associated
with their departure.
Speaker 2 (04:18):
That might have been a little there might have been
a little bit of animosity there with the verrel. That
might have been because of the entire situation the interview.
You know what I'm talking about. You know something that
we don't. I don't give a if going on things
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people man think, let's.
Speaker 1 (04:42):
See what movie was that? Many things that you don't Now,
I'm not gonna pill that to you. I'll just say
the interview that he had for head.
Speaker 2 (04:53):
Coach here, because he was given an interview, did not
go very well.
Speaker 1 (05:00):
Okay, Now keep in mind he turned down the interim
tag and let Rosburg take that.
Speaker 2 (05:06):
Yeah, yeah, I mean that the interview at the end
of the season did not go particularly well.
Speaker 3 (05:13):
Sources, Well, if you turned down the interim coaching job,
you would think that I would think if you turned
on in the interim.
Speaker 2 (05:22):
Job, you never hired the interne coach man, you never
do that. You don't do that.
Speaker 6 (05:27):
You only.
Speaker 2 (05:29):
Now whatever happened.
Speaker 3 (05:31):
But what I'm saying, though, is at the end of
the season, what's changed.
Speaker 2 (05:35):
Well, I'm just.
Speaker 1 (05:36):
Saying like he he didn't take the interim job, and
I think there was a reason for that. He said
it was out of respect to his buddy Nate Hackett,
for getting fired in the middle of his first season
as head coach, and then the interview apparently really really
got a little warm in that room.
Speaker 5 (05:53):
I like the words that you choose to use to
describe because you're like, Brad is there right now and
Jinger Rodgers was just tap toying around the situation. But
you know what, could there be some leftover residual frustration, probably,
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But I think right now everyone's kind of focused on
what he needs to do from his standpoint to kind
of keep that team moving in the right direction.
Speaker 2 (06:23):
I don't think he he's.
Speaker 5 (06:24):
Coming in just kind of really pissed off at the
Denver Broncos organization out. Would it be great for him
if they were to come in and still the game, Absolutely,
But I don't believe he's gonna use that as somewhat
of a motivating factory.
Speaker 2 (06:36):
Yeah, he got he got bigger problems. Worry about bigger
fish to fry, not win a freaking game. Yeah, I
mean that's yeah. Uh.
Speaker 1 (06:44):
The Panthers, of course, head coach Dave Canalis in his
first year, Braden sixty offensive coordinator there Tracy Smith, a
special team Severo is the defensive coordinator that they carried
over from the previous staff. Uh, they've had, they've been
hit with the spain of injuries they've got. By the way,
Josie's one of those. I don't know he's even playing
this one. Davian Clowney has been hurt, a Shawn Robinson, Radigan,
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the injured reserves got Jordan Fuller on a feeling, Shack Thompson,
Derek Brown, Anthony Brown.
Speaker 2 (07:10):
H They've just they've got a ton of players. It
sounds like the Saints game all over.
Speaker 1 (07:15):
It might be a Saints two point oh, except these
guys weren't talented to begin with.
Speaker 4 (07:24):
I'm just saying that's terrible, But I mean, let's be
real here.
Speaker 2 (07:28):
It's not like the Panthers were gonna like the world
on fire. No, it's not like they were going to
do that.
Speaker 5 (07:34):
For for for a brief moment, they they look like
a shiny new toy. Andy Dalton came in and they
beat the Raiders, I.
Speaker 1 (07:41):
Believe, and everyone's the Raiders, like beating the Ravens or whatever.
Speaker 2 (07:46):
Okay, what's going on here?
Speaker 5 (07:49):
The red Rifle, and then all of a sudden they
settled back into reality.
Speaker 2 (07:53):
Yeah, right, So we'll have to see how things play out.
Speaker 5 (07:57):
But I like the storylines just for the conversational purposes.
But you gotta go out there and you got to
play against the.
Speaker 2 (08:03):
Teams you have to face every Sunday.
Speaker 5 (08:05):
And the Broncos had a great win last week on
Thursday Night. They need to follow that up by beating
teams that they need to win because I have a
sneaky suspicion that losing that truck.
Speaker 2 (08:19):
Huh, when you win the games they need to win, well, yeah,
I mean this is a game they need to win. Now.
Speaker 5 (08:25):
Baltimore and Kansas City, that's a whole different animal. They
need to win those games. But those games are gonna
be tough. The Carolina Panthers, that's the game they should win.
Speaker 2 (08:34):
They should win. Carolina has lost four straight. They have
been competitive in any of them. I'm telling you, I'm
telling you. I'm telling you. I'm telling you. I've seen
it too many times. You cannot they cannot have that attitude.
We can have it, we can say it on air,
but the players in the light room they can oh, yeah,
we go these boys. They can't do that. They can't
do it. Did you do that when you play? Well,
y'all had the team that y'all were supposed to be.
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Y'all said, man, we're gonna we're gonna bro. Yeah. That
was kind of my mentality because here's the thing. Here's
what we gotta understand. I understand.
Speaker 5 (09:04):
Who was my coach before I arrived here to Denver.
Remember there's a guy who coached it New York, and
he had that mentality. I had that mentality even in
games that we didn't win.
Speaker 2 (09:18):
The mentality was we're gonna win. Ericson. Yeah, I mean, yeah,
you gotta have that mentality. But not taking them for granted.
Speaker 5 (09:25):
Oh no, no, no, no, no, okay, see that that's that's that.
That's Grants podcast. You know, take that podcast. I will
never take a team you're confident.
Speaker 2 (09:35):
I confident.
Speaker 1 (09:36):
Yes, scored ten or fewer points in four of their
seven games.
Speaker 5 (09:44):
Mmm, now you put that those numbers messed up with
the Broncos defense.
Speaker 1 (09:51):
They've also given up thirty points in every game they've
played this season, except for the Chargers, who won twenty
six to three. Give up forty seven, twenty six, thirty six,
thirty four, thirty six, thirty eight.
Speaker 2 (10:03):
And forty And I like that. I like that from
this perspective, I like that. I'm sure a Gerald Farron
doesn't like that.
Speaker 1 (10:09):
Oh boy, I know, I'm sure he's at a little
upset about that. They are the worst team in the
game in terms of points against. They allow thirty four
point seven points a game. They are twenty eighth in
the league in scoring at fifteen point seven points per game. Basically,
they average getting doubled up every game.
Speaker 2 (10:26):
And it wasn't again, this would be a great game.
That ain't good. No, it's not. This is they don't
gain the ball very well. They run the ball even worse.
Speaker 5 (10:34):
Great game for the Broncos offense to continue trending upward. Right,
This is one of those games where you look on
the schedule, you win.
Speaker 2 (10:45):
At Padri stats, this is the game.
Speaker 1 (10:48):
They are thirty second league and rushing yards against per game.
But they also when when you look at that, one
thing that they also don't do well is get any pressure.
They're thirty first in sacks, so they can't stop anybody.
They can't pressure anybody, they can't score on their own,
they can't run the ball, they can't throw them, they
can't do anything.
Speaker 2 (11:05):
And you said about Jerro being the head coach here what.
Speaker 1 (11:09):
I said he was that that interview a while back
did not go particularly well.
Speaker 2 (11:15):
I don't think that.
Speaker 1 (11:16):
I don't think that the Carolina defense being so poor
this year is on to Gerald Vera. I mean, you
look at the injuries that they have, They're missing a
whole team.
Speaker 2 (11:23):
Then they trade Brian Bury. They traded Brian Giants idiot.
In fact, they've done them all. They're good players. They
trade all the players away and get nothing back. Why
are they doing that? Their owners, their owners and idiot.
Speaker 1 (11:36):
It's weird because their owner, who by the way, is
named Dave Tepper, is a moron. So what you would
say here is that Dave Tepper is a moron, Not
that Dave Tepper, that Dave Tepper.
Speaker 2 (11:45):
Oh the other one, the other one.
Speaker 1 (11:46):
Important distinction to make, just in case he's listening right now,
what the.
Speaker 2 (11:49):
Heck is going on there talking about it.
Speaker 4 (11:51):
I would never say that Dave Tepper is a moron,
But I would say that Dave Tepper's when.
Speaker 5 (11:55):
You say that, don't say we I'm a little big of.
Speaker 1 (12:01):
You in his collective decision here to do this right
now when he comes in here during the break and
absolutely just like pointed me, it was Bed's idea Yeah,
it's funny because.
Speaker 2 (12:15):
Like on Twitter, like I'll tag our Dave Tepper.
Speaker 1 (12:17):
And be like to address all your Carolina Panthers complaints
to take.
Speaker 2 (12:22):
That. That's kind of stuff you do.
Speaker 1 (12:24):
Though, here's the kind of stuff like that. They quit
tagging him on I'm not let to tag him anymore.
Speaker 2 (12:30):
And I broke missed up.
Speaker 1 (12:31):
That's why I texted you the g Lea play the
other day instead of putting on Twitter. Thank you, because
I knew your mentions. We're gonna get destroyed if I
did that.
Speaker 2 (12:40):
Man, that pay work. I told you that one time.
Well that's not a great play. It's not a great play.
That was a great play. Teams are running all the time.
Speaker 5 (12:53):
Very true, but all Ben these is one successful Sam
like you like to.
Speaker 1 (12:59):
Go on fan it's thirty percent success, right, Teams run.
Speaker 2 (13:02):
All the time. I like it sometimes, Yeah, I like it.
If it works, it's good over the corner, of course.
You know what I mean. What I'm saying is you
can't you.
Speaker 1 (13:13):
Said logical fallacy, Well it was better be if the
teams will work.
Speaker 2 (13:16):
Teams will run out of the eye formation up until
all the shot cut works. They said that stuff was
never going to work, and now look at the league.
So you want them to go back to that old
play that didn't work. That play did work. I sent
you a clip of it working. It worked one time.
I only sent you one copy of the play because
you sent me ten cops. It's still one play. It
did it work all ten times one time. That's the
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only thing. Once you run that play, you can't run
it again. I think you can't think I was gonna
send you guys. I was gonna send you a bunch
of those slow mesh clips too.
Speaker 1 (13:48):
Have you seen that the Wake Forest offense no slow
mesh where they have the mesh point.
Speaker 2 (13:52):
And then they're walking with the ball. Have you seen this?
Speaker 1 (13:55):
It was like two years and it's so effective, Like
it's maddeningally effective.
Speaker 5 (14:00):
Theyone because defensive players are taught when you play office
like that to try to.
Speaker 2 (14:07):
Like, don't try to penetrate through the line. Read out, Well,
why you not trying.
Speaker 5 (14:12):
To penetrate and create some kind of disruption with the levels?
You allow them to take their time and dictate to
you what they're.
Speaker 1 (14:18):
Gonna do and play like Shane Falco and replacements.
Speaker 2 (14:20):
I remember when I said, don't.
Speaker 5 (14:21):
Hit Red, go hit I would go hit every single
person quarterback.
Speaker 2 (14:29):
And the running back waiting for them to come out.
They give people.
Speaker 1 (14:38):
Offense is hilarious as they're sitting there like three or
four seconds, just just walking and you're sitting.
Speaker 2 (14:43):
There like this should never work, and it works.
Speaker 1 (14:46):
It's magically effective. I was gonna send you guys some
of that just because I know you're just sitting there
like like grining your teeth.
Speaker 2 (14:55):
It happen. Come on, man, I'm gonna, but I'm gonna
make this happen.
Speaker 1 (14:58):
I'm gonna I'm gonna research every time that place and
run for the last two years.
Speaker 2 (15:01):
Just send you every cry believe because he knows.
Speaker 4 (15:08):
Actually he is gonna go find those and then of
course gonna blow up all night exactly what you would
do that. You'll be getting pictures from little league football,
high school. There's the third out here misplaying exactly eight
year old running pop mortar football.
Speaker 2 (15:28):
Boy. You can well, I will find those clips. If
it's on a huddle, I'll find it. Don't do it,
don't worry about it. I believe you. I believe.
Speaker 1 (15:35):
I'm gon put together like a YouTube playlist's favorite favorite.
Speaker 2 (15:43):
Hey, after last night where we said because.
Speaker 1 (15:45):
Nick was like, you can never make me the quarterback
because I'm seeking out contact. And I'm like, oh, you
sound like you'd be the perfect quarterback for the Benjamin
I'll run offense. But then but then we then I
thought about it. I thought about and.
Speaker 5 (15:59):
I said, you know what, you know who would be
better for this offense better than I would be.
Speaker 2 (16:04):
Kend No, I said, you, Steve, you play You played
quarterback in the college. Yes, yes, I was a passing quarterback.
And that's how we found out I.
Speaker 7 (16:13):
Could play safety. What do you mean that's how I
found out if you're passing the ball? How did they
find out you could? You could be with the interceptions.
And I went down there and made the talk. I
would get mad at them except my past.
Speaker 5 (16:26):
That's exactly why you would be great for Ben's office
because you were a physical quarterback.
Speaker 2 (16:32):
But I don't like to get hit. I like to hit. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (16:35):
The things I could the things I could have done,
was like Cam Newton and Josh Allen.
Speaker 2 (16:38):
Though I set football back fifty years. I took the
forward pass on sea.
Speaker 5 (16:43):
Ben likes like that old school Oklahoma full house backfield
with Jamil Holloway.
Speaker 2 (16:49):
That's what all your running backs we played. You know,
it was an.
Speaker 5 (16:55):
Option quarterback that I didn't know was an option quarterback.
You would know, like watching him play in his career. No,
Treyman like he was Oklahoma. He went, that's why, that's
why he Yeah, I forgot about that.
Speaker 2 (17:12):
Yeah. McNab was an option guy too, Yes, but that
was uh.
Speaker 3 (17:15):
Yeah, we're just in the cotton bowdout feel that, man?
Speaker 1 (17:24):
You know, I guess I feelings about that lsu whoping
we took this past week. I was upset about that.
I'd been that upset in a while. My hopes were up,
you know, halftime where it's a close game, Okay, the
boot's coming home.
Speaker 2 (17:33):
But dope, But did you put something on it?
Speaker 5 (17:35):
No?
Speaker 2 (17:36):
Why not?
Speaker 1 (17:37):
Because you never melt me heart on the belt your head?
Speaker 5 (17:38):
Well, I mean I would figure at this point you
would know how to push your emotions aside.
Speaker 2 (17:43):
Not well enough to do that? Apparently not, I guess not.
Although I am rinking money on Arvy every game. I mean, undefeated, bro,
Now all they do is run the ball, run, run, run.
That's crazy. They are undefeated and ranked. They know what
they can run? Run? Can we stopped?
Speaker 1 (18:01):
They got two games just this year that basically, you
gotta beat Notre Dame in Navy. You do that, you're
in the College FOOTBA playoffs. They they gonna be up
against like Bama running the option.
Speaker 2 (18:09):
I mean it's Texas run option, going back to old school. Baby.
Speaker 1 (18:12):
Oh, they'll need a break. We need a break. Rockus
Country that rolls on after this?
Speaker 2 (18:17):
Guys, how do you go? How do you not overlook
a team like the Carolina Panthers? To me, how do
you not overlook them? How do you keep focused? I
mean because I mean you look at this and on paper,
if we don't win by double digit, something wrong.
Speaker 3 (18:28):
Because everybody's played a game where they thought they were
gonna win and they lost.
Speaker 2 (18:33):
Everybody play that game where.
Speaker 3 (18:36):
Oh man, we're gonna we gonna get these guys. Yeah,
guess what. They come up with that energy and they
get you.
Speaker 2 (18:43):
So what was that game for you?
Speaker 5 (18:45):
M man?
Speaker 2 (18:46):
I'm sure I had a few of them. I don't know.
I can't remember when off the top of my head though,
But it has happened because the question was coming right
to you asked it has into this because you know
this has happened. I'm just like, all right, now I
get a chance to get those guys to tell themselves
a little bit. Well it happened to us.
Speaker 5 (19:04):
I think it was a Monday night or Sunday that
game against the Chargers, and man, when I say they went,
they they ran hogwile on us.
Speaker 2 (19:14):
I'm trying to remember who rang, Yeah, what was it?
I think what Mike Mike Michael Turner.
Speaker 1 (19:22):
I think he was the Falcons Chargers, Michael Michael Turner.
Speaker 2 (19:30):
Turner that game, that game against.
Speaker 5 (19:34):
US helps him get the contract he would later get
in the off season with the Falcons.
Speaker 2 (19:40):
You're the reason that he spent so much saying you
are the reason. You're like singling me out because he
got all that money and then became Michael and it
was hey, Yeah, the boys used to call him something
else after he.
Speaker 5 (19:57):
Got that bag from the Falcons because he had it
was straight to his gut.
Speaker 2 (20:01):
Yes, you think that money go to wool It did not? Yes, Yes,
So did he go to like he was like two fifteen,
he was like two forty five. Oh he was, he was.
Speaker 5 (20:11):
He was huge, and he was slow when he got
there because you look more like T. J.
Speaker 2 (20:16):
Dunckett.
Speaker 5 (20:17):
Yes, Like he spent too many nights at the waffle
House that the same guy. Yes, that slower to the
molasses in January, that's the same way I looked at it.
But it was that game on that that Monday Sunday
night that he just he just took off and it
was just one of those games. And to teach us
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properly a lesson, Mike Shanahan put us back in pads.
Oh no, he put us back in pads. And we
had like two periods of like nine o seven forget seven,
forget seven o seven, forget one on ones. It was
just like, you know what, we're gonna put the pads
back on because I believe that you guys need to
(20:59):
learn to tackle. And it was nine o seven.
Speaker 2 (21:01):
Oh yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (21:02):
He was two twenty by the way he came in
the league and was it was listed at to forty
seven when he missed, but.
Speaker 2 (21:09):
He was about he's about road. That's crazy. That's a
way for running back. And these were his good years too.
Atlanta was when he put on it when he was
give him three hundred and seventy, three hundred and fifty
carries a year.
Speaker 5 (21:22):
But that was one of those games for us where
you know, we were riding high and it was like, okay,
well we're gonna go in, We're gonna dominate this team.
Speaker 2 (21:30):
And it was like one thing after another. Roll that's
what we were talking about earlier. But was talking about earlier. Yes,
you guys say you'll were confident going in, Yeah, and
we and we should have been. Were you over confident?
You know what?
Speaker 5 (21:50):
Maybe a little, But I think the thing that got
us was that there were things that were taking place
in that game that we didn't predict.
Speaker 2 (21:59):
Like like Turner running for.
Speaker 5 (22:01):
Those yards the way that he did, and they were
running inside and outside.
Speaker 2 (22:05):
It was just like, oh, they would just run outside.
So it was just one of those young things. Somebody
gonna be written well because they stay at LT.
Speaker 7 (22:13):
Yeah they had L but it wasn't LT that up.
Speaker 5 (22:18):
It was that guy and you get to the sideline
and you're looking at each other like na, not that guy. Yes,
And after that, man, it was just like everything fell
apart and we just had to regroup that week later.
Speaker 2 (22:33):
But it is possible to happen, you.
Speaker 1 (22:35):
Know that what I said, Like, okay, and to dive
into that a little bit further, like when you see
things going wrong in a game, most of you guys
have been to this before.
Speaker 2 (22:41):
You you scattered pat of blah blah blah.
Speaker 1 (22:43):
You think you got a good game plan and then
you get in the game and something's going wrong. How
do you correct that on the fly? Because in that game,
you guys didn't right. Obviously it didn't happen, but there
have been games where you turned it around, corrected it.
Speaker 2 (22:53):
How do you correct it on the fly?
Speaker 3 (22:55):
I'll tell you many times. Because we're down there in
the battle, we can't see it. But the coaches up
top who are in the press boxes, they can see
what's going on. They can see who's not getting to
their gaps, who's not doing the things that they need
to do, and they make it.
Speaker 2 (23:12):
We make adjustments and sometimes hey, you may be getting
out physical.
Speaker 5 (23:17):
You know, hey they're too physical for you, or or
the alternative. You can go in the halftime and there's
some it's a coming to Jesus meeting and some furniss
and then the halftime you come out with the right
Because we had one of those games when we play
against Buffalo and Tarall Owens was.
Speaker 2 (23:38):
On that team, and Marshall Lynch was on.
Speaker 6 (23:40):
The team, and I remember Fred Jackson, I remember the
first run play, and I remember what happened on the
second run play.
Speaker 5 (23:52):
John Lynn said, hey, hey, Nico almost almost tells you
exactly what he said. I'm sorry, but get the plea.
Let me just gotta clean this up for radio. He
was just like, hey, Nico, we're gonna have to hit
this dude. That's not exactly how we said it, but
that was ian PLI like, we're going to have to
really hit this dude to make him turn down, because he.
Speaker 2 (24:15):
Was one of those he was one of those guys that.
Speaker 5 (24:18):
You hit him and he was like, oh, Willy, okay,
we go is this is what we're doing?
Speaker 1 (24:25):
And once John told me that it was one of
those games, and uh, it is funny everyone. I don't
know if you guys listen to Marshaw's podcast or whatever,
but he is that dude. He's absolutely he's still that guy.
He's just wired different as far as he's like, oh,
oh you get in the way of my applebee's.
Speaker 2 (24:39):
Yes, and and and he was a physical runner.
Speaker 5 (24:41):
But that was one of those games where we had
to hunker down as a defense collectively, especially at safety,
and said, well, we got to get to this dude
before he gets going.
Speaker 2 (24:50):
If we don't. It's gonna be a long day. Don't
get past the line of the tax lines.
Speaker 1 (24:56):
Got some some great texts and the three three you're right, Yes,
the shotgun has modified single wings.
Speaker 2 (24:59):
Some other time. We'll get into that a little bit more. Yeah,
some of the time.
Speaker 1 (25:01):
The four O one, though, it has an interesting counterpoint
to this. As we are talking about trying to stay
focused and not look past Carolina, the four the four
one O here says, I live in Baltimore and all
Baltimore fans are looking past the game against us.
Speaker 2 (25:17):
Yeah, that's what we want. That, that's what we want.
We want you want that, you want to get slept
on right?
Speaker 1 (25:22):
Yeah, this time you see these guys inventing these ridiculous
narratives in order to make sure they stay dial They
like the one the Patriots. Nobody believed we could get
here whatever the Patriots everybody picture of the preseason you're.
Speaker 5 (25:33):
Talking about, you know what that that happens because in
all due respect to Baltimore right now, they're playing great football.
Speaker 2 (25:45):
They are. But do you want to say who's the call?
It was the caller's name us out of the four
when I was Aria code exer, Okay, that's his take
on it. Well, he is a Baltimore he says, they're
looking Broncos faan living in Baltimore. This is a show.
Speaker 1 (25:58):
Yeah, but Arno Rave is doing that because the great
teams he just said, the fans are looking past.
Speaker 2 (26:06):
Okay, yeah the fans. Yeah, fans, I'm telling them right now.
Speaker 1 (26:10):
Hey encourage that that that permeates the city of Baltimore
to my passions, because I'm gonna be honest with you,
Lamar Jackson and Dereck Henry, that's the one two punch.
Speaker 2 (26:18):
I would love to look past us.
Speaker 5 (26:19):
What was he don't don't eliminate the human element in
this because on any game football team on there's.
Speaker 2 (26:26):
Twenty two starting guys. And I did that.
Speaker 5 (26:29):
Every guy on on either side of the ball is
going to study for a team that they are perceived
to be able to beat.
Speaker 2 (26:38):
I trust me, I've been there.
Speaker 1 (26:39):
I think Baltimore is gonna get up for it because
and the reason I think they are is gonna look
at this defense. And you got Todd Mounkin back there,
who doesn't feel like he gets enough respects an offensive coordinator.
You have Lamar Jackson who doesn't believe he gets enough
respect as a quarterback. And you've got Derek Henry, who
everybody's calling old man Henry at thirty years old. Meanwhile,
this guy's ripping off eightyr runs at twenty two miles
an hour at thirty plus years old.
Speaker 5 (26:59):
And if I'm not miss taking the last time the
Broncos playing Balston More, they won.
Speaker 2 (27:02):
Lamar Jackson got injured in that.
Speaker 5 (27:04):
Game, I believe, and they hotly came in he did,
and Justine Simmons had.
Speaker 2 (27:08):
What like two interceptions or something like that in the game.
Believe that's correct. Yes, so they made won a little mellow,
little vengeance. I don't know.
Speaker 3 (27:17):
But though the good teams they don't they don't get
they don't have those type of games.
Speaker 2 (27:21):
They're our favorite games. Well that's what Nick Saban's hyping
up everything.
Speaker 1 (27:24):
It didn't matter if they were playing Tulsa Welding School,
all the greatest football team.
Speaker 2 (27:28):
You know, we got to I said, you gotta do it.
Can't let him look past it. What do we think
we're not gonna do. We're not gonna look past traffic
right now with dave O Bryant.
Speaker 1 (27:35):
On six six nine zeros of text line by the way,
we were incorrect. The Broncos actually lost that game of
the Ravens ten to nine when Snoop put Lee came on.
So some reason I just thought the Broncos won that game.
I think it's because it was close.
Speaker 2 (27:47):
At that point. We were counting close at Pyric victories.
It was close. It's really we're taking it. That's a victory.
Were count as a dope. Boy, we're putting it in
the moral.
Speaker 1 (27:57):
We'll put it in the orange slices. Victory category five
six sixty nine zero is the text line. Thanks to
Brian for pointing that out. By the way, as as
we as we headed to this thing, Pats are Tan
come back off the concussion. I talked to Nick about
this a little bit yesterday. I think he and I
are the same mind. Would you send him.
Speaker 2 (28:13):
This game against Carolina? Said it again, Pats or Tan
coming back off the concussion? Would you sit him against Carolina? Well,
it just it depends on what the docs say. Yeah,
I mean, well, even if he's healthy, would you, like I's.
Speaker 1 (28:24):
Say he's healthy, would you still sit him?
Speaker 2 (28:27):
Uh No, I don't think he would want to sit.
It's not about what he wants.
Speaker 3 (28:33):
I'm saying, though, if if he's good, why did you
send him twofold one?
Speaker 1 (28:39):
You don't need him, and you want to make sure
that he's fully recovered for the Baltimore game.
Speaker 2 (28:42):
Has coming up next to.
Speaker 1 (28:44):
Mathis he's good, we might sprink him out there for
a few plays, but I like, I'm probably protecting Him'm
probably put him in bubble wrap. And I'm saying, look,
I'm gonna get the Mamurray Matthewson last year.
Speaker 2 (28:55):
Get this attitude that hey, we're gonna blow him out.
That's that's why this would you do with attitude?
Speaker 1 (28:59):
That's why I said, We'll start him into the game
for a few plays and then once we get that lead,
then I'm.
Speaker 5 (29:04):
Like, no, don't don't do it at all, because once again,
this is one of those games that you don't want
to say is a sure fire win. But you should
be able to take care of this team and also
to give some of the some of the younger guys
who are going to rely on later in the season
an opportunity. And you want him to have one more week,
one more week to make sure that he's all good,
(29:26):
because if he getting nicked up here now you lose
him against Baltimore, you lose him against Kansas City, and
those games are really vital for confidence boosting. But if
you lose somebody else, whether you lose one of the
other starters. Okay, well, I was in the secondary anywhere.
Speaker 2 (29:48):
If you're good, you're good.
Speaker 3 (29:50):
Well, but the doctors have the playmi and say, yeah,
he's you shouldn't have any more impact from that concussion.
Speaker 2 (29:58):
Now, if if he has any back, yeah, absolutely don't
play him. But if he's.
Speaker 1 (30:02):
Good, man, is their value in getting reps for a
guy like the Murray mathis or getting this defense some
of these other guys in the second air reps?
Speaker 2 (30:09):
There's always value to get reps. Okay, but when the
starter is available, the starter plays.
Speaker 5 (30:14):
Okay, let's me see it goes back to availability, right, Okay,
And you know we both know how this works. If
the doctor says, are you good, and you go through
your medical protocols, even if you're.
Speaker 2 (30:26):
Not, oh great, I'm ready to go. We're good. It's
like the same thing when they called me up to
it to come in here. Yeah, I would say, but
there's a certain process you got to go through right now.
Speaker 3 (30:38):
Anyway, we have concussions, yes, and if he's going through
that process, and he says, I'm good and everybody else
I'm saying, and he's honest about it, and I'm sure he.
Speaker 2 (30:48):
Will be something.
Speaker 1 (30:49):
Nick and I gonna get to the next segment got
a few minutes on this when speaking to guy's coming
back from concussion to trying to come back and play
right now, says he's not gonna wear the Guardian cap.
Speaker 2 (30:58):
Now, to be fair, the Guardian cat.
Speaker 1 (31:01):
There's not a lot, a whole lot of data that
says that they prevent concussions out there. I mean, there's
just not there's something.
Speaker 2 (31:07):
It's better than nothing.
Speaker 1 (31:07):
Maybe you know, he says he's coming back and he's
not gonna wear it, And I'm looking at this and
I'm like, bro, I don't understand, Like at this point,
I wouldn't.
Speaker 2 (31:15):
Hit him to kill him.
Speaker 5 (31:20):
Tell you so, you saying if its outside the pocket,
you yeah, bliss, you're not gonna it.
Speaker 2 (31:25):
Would I would tack him? I would. I would do
something other than hug him and put him on the ground.
Speaker 3 (31:34):
I would do something other than put my put my
helmet in his chain through his chest.
Speaker 1 (31:38):
Just look at him. I'm just looking at him a
point and you want to get down. You want to
get down, bro, you know, like awful, let this guy
come back and play, but he wants.
Speaker 2 (31:51):
To and he wants to come out and play.
Speaker 1 (31:54):
Sometimes sometimes you got to have people say you gotta
save people from themselves.
Speaker 2 (31:58):
But the thing is, I think he made a huge
mistake by trying to run to mar Hamon. Why would
you do that?
Speaker 1 (32:04):
Anyway?
Speaker 2 (32:05):
No one looked acussion is did you put that? But
that's what he does like he he just does not
know he can't pay you the way he ever he should.
I know he should never think about you to take
that instinct out of the player though, Amen slide and
the exactly you don't get the first time you think.
(32:25):
Mike the Gain has been sitting there saying I tol
him already.
Speaker 4 (32:28):
Yeah, because if they put that dude to judo classes,
they take you about to.
Speaker 2 (32:31):
Fall better, they better get a third ball college. Ben help.
I'm not saying it doesn't I'm saying I'm saying it's effective.
But what I'm saying it is like they had to
teach that guy how to fall. He didn't use it.
You talk about judo, you need a third base coach
to teach him how to slide. Well that too, slide ye,
get on the ground. Yeah all go find Chuck Knoblock.
He didn't do anything these days, slide you would hit him?
What everything you got? Oh yeah, he's he volunteers. He volunteers.
(32:58):
He's put himself in the game.
Speaker 5 (32:59):
And they said, you're on the field, I'm not supposed
to run up to you and just kind of tap you.
Speaker 3 (33:04):
Now, I'm saying this in the steve Now, back in
the day, if Friday would be exactly.
Speaker 2 (33:10):
He volunteered to line up back there my fault. You know,
it's clean ten years from now, ten years from now.
I help him up the stairs, just like cash is clear. No,
but come on, man, go down. Oh you wrong for that.
That's where that's where he's going. Oh he's so wrong
for that. We'll talk about how long. We'll talk about
how wrong I am. During the break Braactast Country Old
Blood
Well, come to it Broncos Country tonight. But with all Bride,
Dick Ferguson, Grant Smith, guys, you know what I mean.
I think all four of us here kind of had
it upbringing that was maybe less than affluent. Right, well,
we all had a little, well a little bit of
a hard scrabble upbringing, and we all en grew up
in baller neighborhoods with gated communities. What was Butler, Chauncey?
Speaker 2 (00:21):
What was he like?
Speaker 1 (00:22):
I wish Chauncy Smacklehaney. I was just thinking the reason
I say that, at what point did you realize that
you got soft? Because I just realized a minute ago,
and I refused to put those headphones on because the
phone padding is worn out on one side and the
metal kind of digs into my head a little bit.
So I went all the way around and stole this
other pair of headphones from Grant and came back in here,
(00:43):
and I'm like, the whole way back, I'm.
Speaker 2 (00:44):
Realizing, you know how soft I've gotten. I'm getting so
soft that I can't use those headphones anymore. I have
to use these cushy headphones. You've gotten boozy, your diva,
I did I went and got soft. I'm just saying, like, you.
Speaker 1 (00:56):
Know, you guys, at what point did you did you
realize you wouldn't get solved?
Speaker 3 (00:59):
Me when you when you do this just about every
day and you got to put on headphones. Yeah, that's
that's important to you. Like there was a last a week,
so I don't mind putting those.
Speaker 2 (01:08):
You don't want to put this on. I'm just like
you trying to. I don't know why, but that just
struck me. As I'm walking back, I'm like, man, I
would have got soft. Let me see your hands, you
see turn them around? Yeah? Yeah, is it? No callousies,
no callouses on that. No callous callous is on no callus.
Speaker 4 (01:26):
Since I've done a real, actual manual lab, I'm glad.
Speaker 2 (01:30):
You put that out there for people so they actually
know the last time I did.
Speaker 1 (01:34):
Like I can tell you the last time I did
when I threw those boots up in the tree in
April fifteenth to twenty thirteen.
Speaker 2 (01:39):
I know exactly the date. The last time I'm the
form manual labor wow moving or something like that.
Speaker 1 (01:44):
You know hel about buddy move. It's a little different,
but yeah.
Speaker 2 (01:46):
Last time I did, you hit it on the head,
Steven got a little boogie. Yeah, man, little boozy.
Speaker 4 (01:51):
I'm I'm coming on the gate saying, I'm asking you
guys when you first got soft that you guys are
trying to deny it.
Speaker 2 (01:57):
Here, look at my hand. Do you see that? What
do you see?
Speaker 1 (02:02):
He went from the bar? Yeah, listen, that's what it
used to be, my homie night. You act like you
don't know me. I mean, I don't know myself anymore.
That's what I'm getting my six sixth.
Speaker 2 (02:18):
Had zeros and text line. Guys.
Speaker 1 (02:20):
We're coming off Thursday at football primetime win against in
New Orleans. We got the NFC South coming up here
at the Carolina Panthers. And you know, there's not too
many games in the NFL where you say, well that's
a gimmey, but.
Speaker 2 (02:34):
This certainly looks like a winnable game for the Denver
broncos Man. We better blow them boys out the way
we did New Orleans. Well, I mean, keep this in mind.
I'm not gonna say that because you know.
Speaker 5 (02:47):
That, oh yeah, well it might be Bryce Young Mike
is playing this game. I'm not certain on that because
I don't know if you guys saw it earlier today
there was a report from Carolina Panthers that Andy Dalton
and it's we got into a car accident and luckily
with their reporting that the injuries don't seem to be
(03:07):
that major, but they did go to the hospital, so
that may.
Speaker 2 (03:12):
Be something that may change the game for Sunday.
Speaker 5 (03:15):
Or let's just say Andy Dalton does play. Every team
is always looking for something to inspire them. That could
be something that could inspire them. And hopefully the Broncos
are not tipping and allow Andy Dalton and to kill
down the Panthers to try to steal a win.
Speaker 2 (03:34):
No, no, no, no tipping, no tipping. No.
Speaker 3 (03:37):
Everything they know, they know, anything can happen.
Speaker 2 (03:44):
I'm not taking anything for anything to the Jarro Averro
revenge shangle, any of that. I don't think so Chelsea
Jewell coming back.
Speaker 5 (03:54):
No, every time a player comes back, usually the storylines
and narratives or someone built that way.
Speaker 2 (04:01):
But is it really a revenge game?
Speaker 5 (04:04):
Because if I'm not mistaken, both individuals, I mean, they
didn't leave the way they wanted to leave, but I
don't think that there was no there's any bitterness associated
with their departure.
Speaker 2 (04:18):
That might have been a little there might have been
a little bit of animosity there with the verrel. That
might have been because of the entire situation the interview.
You know what I'm talking about. You know something that
we don't. I don't give a if going on things
(04:39):
people man think, let's.
Speaker 1 (04:42):
See what movie was that? Many things that you don't Now,
I'm not gonna pill that to you. I'll just say
the interview that he had for head.
Speaker 2 (04:53):
Coach here, because he was given an interview, did not
go very well.
Speaker 1 (05:00):
Okay, Now keep in mind he turned down the interim
tag and let Rosburg take that.
Speaker 2 (05:06):
Yeah, yeah, I mean that the interview at the end
of the season did not go particularly well.
Speaker 3 (05:13):
Sources, Well, if you turned down the interim coaching job,
you would think that I would think if you turned
on in the interim.
Speaker 2 (05:22):
Job, you never hired the interne coach man, you never
do that. You don't do that.
Speaker 6 (05:27):
You only.
Speaker 2 (05:29):
Now whatever happened.
Speaker 3 (05:31):
But what I'm saying, though, is at the end of
the season, what's changed.
Speaker 2 (05:35):
Well, I'm just.
Speaker 1 (05:36):
Saying like he he didn't take the interim job, and
I think there was a reason for that. He said
it was out of respect to his buddy Nate Hackett,
for getting fired in the middle of his first season
as head coach, and then the interview apparently really really
got a little warm in that room.
Speaker 5 (05:53):
I like the words that you choose to use to
describe because you're like, Brad is there right now and
Jinger Rodgers was just tap toying around the situation. But
you know what, could there be some leftover residual frustration, probably,
(06:14):
But I think right now everyone's kind of focused on
what he needs to do from his standpoint to kind
of keep that team moving in the right direction.
Speaker 2 (06:23):
I don't think he he's.
Speaker 5 (06:24):
Coming in just kind of really pissed off at the
Denver Broncos organization out. Would it be great for him
if they were to come in and still the game, Absolutely,
But I don't believe he's gonna use that as somewhat
of a motivating factory.
Speaker 2 (06:36):
Yeah, he got he got bigger problems. Worry about bigger
fish to fry, not win a freaking game. Yeah, I
mean that's yeah. Uh.
Speaker 1 (06:44):
The Panthers, of course, head coach Dave Canalis in his
first year, Braden sixty offensive coordinator there Tracy Smith, a
special team Severo is the defensive coordinator that they carried
over from the previous staff. Uh, they've had, they've been
hit with the spain of injuries they've got. By the way,
Josie's one of those. I don't know he's even playing
this one. Davian Clowney has been hurt, a Shawn Robinson, Radigan,
(07:05):
the injured reserves got Jordan Fuller on a feeling, Shack Thompson,
Derek Brown, Anthony Brown.
Speaker 2 (07:10):
H They've just they've got a ton of players. It
sounds like the Saints game all over.
Speaker 1 (07:15):
It might be a Saints two point oh, except these
guys weren't talented to begin with.
Speaker 4 (07:24):
I'm just saying that's terrible, But I mean, let's be
real here.
Speaker 2 (07:28):
It's not like the Panthers were gonna like the world
on fire. No, it's not like they were going to
do that.
Speaker 5 (07:34):
For for for a brief moment, they they look like
a shiny new toy. Andy Dalton came in and they
beat the Raiders, I.
Speaker 1 (07:41):
Believe, and everyone's the Raiders, like beating the Ravens or whatever.
Speaker 2 (07:46):
Okay, what's going on here?
Speaker 5 (07:49):
The red Rifle, and then all of a sudden they
settled back into reality.
Speaker 2 (07:53):
Yeah, right, So we'll have to see how things play out.
Speaker 5 (07:57):
But I like the storylines just for the conversational purposes.
But you gotta go out there and you got to
play against the.
Speaker 2 (08:03):
Teams you have to face every Sunday.
Speaker 5 (08:05):
And the Broncos had a great win last week on
Thursday Night. They need to follow that up by beating
teams that they need to win because I have a
sneaky suspicion that losing that truck.
Speaker 2 (08:19):
Huh, when you win the games they need to win, well, yeah,
I mean this is a game they need to win. Now.
Speaker 5 (08:25):
Baltimore and Kansas City, that's a whole different animal. They
need to win those games. But those games are gonna
be tough. The Carolina Panthers, that's the game they should win.
Speaker 2 (08:34):
They should win. Carolina has lost four straight. They have
been competitive in any of them. I'm telling you, I'm
telling you. I'm telling you. I'm telling you. I've seen
it too many times. You cannot they cannot have that attitude.
We can have it, we can say it on air,
but the players in the light room they can oh, yeah,
we go these boys. They can't do that. They can't
do it. Did you do that when you play? Well,
y'all had the team that y'all were supposed to be.
(08:55):
Y'all said, man, we're gonna we're gonna bro. Yeah. That
was kind of my mentality because here's the thing. Here's
what we gotta understand. I understand.
Speaker 5 (09:04):
Who was my coach before I arrived here to Denver.
Remember there's a guy who coached it New York, and
he had that mentality. I had that mentality even in
games that we didn't win.
Speaker 2 (09:18):
The mentality was we're gonna win. Ericson. Yeah, I mean, yeah,
you gotta have that mentality. But not taking them for granted.
Speaker 5 (09:25):
Oh no, no, no, no, no, okay, see that that's that's that.
That's Grants podcast. You know, take that podcast. I will
never take a team you're confident.
Speaker 2 (09:35):
I confident.
Speaker 1 (09:36):
Yes, scored ten or fewer points in four of their
seven games.
Speaker 5 (09:44):
Mmm, now you put that those numbers messed up with
the Broncos defense.
Speaker 1 (09:51):
They've also given up thirty points in every game they've
played this season, except for the Chargers, who won twenty
six to three. Give up forty seven, twenty six, thirty six,
thirty four, thirty six, thirty eight.
Speaker 2 (10:03):
And forty And I like that. I like that from
this perspective, I like that. I'm sure a Gerald Farron
doesn't like that.
Speaker 1 (10:09):
Oh boy, I know, I'm sure he's at a little
upset about that. They are the worst team in the
game in terms of points against. They allow thirty four
point seven points a game. They are twenty eighth in
the league in scoring at fifteen point seven points per game. Basically,
they average getting doubled up every game.
Speaker 2 (10:26):
And it wasn't again, this would be a great game.
That ain't good. No, it's not. This is they don't
gain the ball very well. They run the ball even worse.
Speaker 5 (10:34):
Great game for the Broncos offense to continue trending upward. Right,
This is one of those games where you look on
the schedule, you win.
Speaker 2 (10:45):
At Padri stats, this is the game.
Speaker 1 (10:48):
They are thirty second league and rushing yards against per game.
But they also when when you look at that, one
thing that they also don't do well is get any pressure.
They're thirty first in sacks, so they can't stop anybody.
They can't pressure anybody, they can't score on their own,
they can't run the ball, they can't throw them, they
can't do anything.
Speaker 2 (11:05):
And you said about Jerro being the head coach here what.
Speaker 1 (11:09):
I said he was that that interview a while back
did not go particularly well.
Speaker 2 (11:15):
I don't think that.
Speaker 1 (11:16):
I don't think that the Carolina defense being so poor
this year is on to Gerald Vera. I mean, you
look at the injuries that they have, They're missing a
whole team.
Speaker 2 (11:23):
Then they trade Brian Bury. They traded Brian Giants idiot.
In fact, they've done them all. They're good players. They
trade all the players away and get nothing back. Why
are they doing that? Their owners, their owners and idiot.
Speaker 1 (11:36):
It's weird because their owner, who by the way, is
named Dave Tepper, is a moron. So what you would
say here is that Dave Tepper is a moron, Not
that Dave Tepper, that Dave Tepper.
Speaker 2 (11:45):
Oh the other one, the other one.
Speaker 1 (11:46):
Important distinction to make, just in case he's listening right now,
what the.
Speaker 2 (11:49):
Heck is going on there talking about it.
Speaker 4 (11:51):
I would never say that Dave Tepper is a moron,
But I would say that Dave Tepper's when.
Speaker 5 (11:55):
You say that, don't say we I'm a little big of.
Speaker 1 (12:01):
You in his collective decision here to do this right
now when he comes in here during the break and
absolutely just like pointed me, it was Bed's idea Yeah,
it's funny because.
Speaker 2 (12:15):
Like on Twitter, like I'll tag our Dave Tepper.
Speaker 1 (12:17):
And be like to address all your Carolina Panthers complaints
to take.
Speaker 2 (12:22):
That. That's kind of stuff you do.
Speaker 1 (12:24):
Though, here's the kind of stuff like that. They quit
tagging him on I'm not let to tag him anymore.
Speaker 2 (12:30):
And I broke missed up.
Speaker 1 (12:31):
That's why I texted you the g Lea play the
other day instead of putting on Twitter. Thank you, because
I knew your mentions. We're gonna get destroyed if I
did that.
Speaker 2 (12:40):
Man, that pay work. I told you that one time.
Well that's not a great play. It's not a great play.
That was a great play. Teams are running all the time.
Speaker 5 (12:53):
Very true, but all Ben these is one successful Sam
like you like to.
Speaker 1 (12:59):
Go on fan it's thirty percent success, right, Teams run.
Speaker 2 (13:02):
All the time. I like it sometimes, Yeah, I like it.
If it works, it's good over the corner, of course.
You know what I mean. What I'm saying is you
can't you.
Speaker 1 (13:13):
Said logical fallacy, Well it was better be if the
teams will work.
Speaker 2 (13:16):
Teams will run out of the eye formation up until
all the shot cut works. They said that stuff was
never going to work, and now look at the league.
So you want them to go back to that old
play that didn't work. That play did work. I sent
you a clip of it working. It worked one time.
I only sent you one copy of the play because
you sent me ten cops. It's still one play. It
did it work all ten times one time. That's the
(13:38):
only thing. Once you run that play, you can't run
it again. I think you can't think I was gonna
send you guys. I was gonna send you a bunch
of those slow mesh clips too.
Speaker 1 (13:48):
Have you seen that the Wake Forest offense no slow
mesh where they have the mesh point.
Speaker 2 (13:52):
And then they're walking with the ball. Have you seen this?
Speaker 1 (13:55):
It was like two years and it's so effective, Like
it's maddeningally effective.
Speaker 5 (14:00):
Theyone because defensive players are taught when you play office
like that to try to.
Speaker 2 (14:07):
Like, don't try to penetrate through the line. Read out, Well,
why you not trying.
Speaker 5 (14:12):
To penetrate and create some kind of disruption with the levels?
You allow them to take their time and dictate to
you what they're.
Speaker 1 (14:18):
Gonna do and play like Shane Falco and replacements.
Speaker 2 (14:20):
I remember when I said, don't.
Speaker 5 (14:21):
Hit Red, go hit I would go hit every single
person quarterback.
Speaker 2 (14:29):
And the running back waiting for them to come out.
They give people.
Speaker 1 (14:38):
Offense is hilarious as they're sitting there like three or
four seconds, just just walking and you're sitting.
Speaker 2 (14:43):
There like this should never work, and it works.
Speaker 1 (14:46):
It's magically effective. I was gonna send you guys some
of that just because I know you're just sitting there
like like grining your teeth.
Speaker 2 (14:55):
It happen. Come on, man, I'm gonna, but I'm gonna
make this happen.
Speaker 1 (14:58):
I'm gonna I'm gonna research every time that place and
run for the last two years.
Speaker 2 (15:01):
Just send you every cry believe because he knows.
Speaker 4 (15:08):
Actually he is gonna go find those and then of
course gonna blow up all night exactly what you would
do that. You'll be getting pictures from little league football,
high school. There's the third out here misplaying exactly eight
year old running pop mortar football.
Speaker 2 (15:28):
Boy. You can well, I will find those clips. If
it's on a huddle, I'll find it. Don't do it,
don't worry about it. I believe you. I believe.
Speaker 1 (15:35):
I'm gon put together like a YouTube playlist's favorite favorite.
Speaker 2 (15:43):
Hey, after last night where we said because.
Speaker 1 (15:45):
Nick was like, you can never make me the quarterback
because I'm seeking out contact. And I'm like, oh, you
sound like you'd be the perfect quarterback for the Benjamin
I'll run offense. But then but then we then I
thought about it. I thought about and.
Speaker 5 (15:59):
I said, you know what, you know who would be
better for this offense better than I would be.
Speaker 2 (16:04):
Kend No, I said, you, Steve, you play You played
quarterback in the college. Yes, yes, I was a passing quarterback.
And that's how we found out I.
Speaker 7 (16:13):
Could play safety. What do you mean that's how I
found out if you're passing the ball? How did they
find out you could? You could be with the interceptions.
And I went down there and made the talk. I
would get mad at them except my past.
Speaker 5 (16:26):
That's exactly why you would be great for Ben's office
because you were a physical quarterback.
Speaker 2 (16:32):
But I don't like to get hit. I like to hit. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (16:35):
The things I could the things I could have done,
was like Cam Newton and Josh Allen.
Speaker 2 (16:38):
Though I set football back fifty years. I took the
forward pass on sea.
Speaker 5 (16:43):
Ben likes like that old school Oklahoma full house backfield
with Jamil Holloway.
Speaker 2 (16:49):
That's what all your running backs we played. You know,
it was an.
Speaker 5 (16:55):
Option quarterback that I didn't know was an option quarterback.
You would know, like watching him play in his career. No,
Treyman like he was Oklahoma. He went, that's why, that's
why he Yeah, I forgot about that.
Speaker 2 (17:12):
Yeah. McNab was an option guy too, Yes, but that
was uh.
Speaker 3 (17:15):
Yeah, we're just in the cotton bowdout feel that, man?
Speaker 1 (17:24):
You know, I guess I feelings about that lsu whoping
we took this past week. I was upset about that.
I'd been that upset in a while. My hopes were up,
you know, halftime where it's a close game, Okay, the
boot's coming home.
Speaker 2 (17:33):
But dope, But did you put something on it?
Speaker 5 (17:35):
No?
Speaker 2 (17:36):
Why not?
Speaker 1 (17:37):
Because you never melt me heart on the belt your head?
Speaker 5 (17:38):
Well, I mean I would figure at this point you
would know how to push your emotions aside.
Speaker 2 (17:43):
Not well enough to do that? Apparently not, I guess not.
Although I am rinking money on Arvy every game. I mean, undefeated, bro,
Now all they do is run the ball, run, run, run.
That's crazy. They are undefeated and ranked. They know what
they can run? Run? Can we stopped?
Speaker 1 (18:01):
They got two games just this year that basically, you
gotta beat Notre Dame in Navy. You do that, you're
in the College FOOTBA playoffs. They they gonna be up
against like Bama running the option.
Speaker 2 (18:09):
I mean it's Texas run option, going back to old school. Baby.
Speaker 1 (18:12):
Oh, they'll need a break. We need a break. Rockus
Country that rolls on after this?
Speaker 2 (18:17):
Guys, how do you go? How do you not overlook
a team like the Carolina Panthers? To me, how do
you not overlook them? How do you keep focused? I
mean because I mean you look at this and on paper,
if we don't win by double digit, something wrong.
Speaker 3 (18:28):
Because everybody's played a game where they thought they were
gonna win and they lost.
Speaker 2 (18:33):
Everybody play that game where.
Speaker 3 (18:36):
Oh man, we're gonna we gonna get these guys. Yeah,
guess what. They come up with that energy and they
get you.
Speaker 2 (18:43):
So what was that game for you?
Speaker 5 (18:45):
M man?
Speaker 2 (18:46):
I'm sure I had a few of them. I don't know.
I can't remember when off the top of my head though,
But it has happened because the question was coming right
to you asked it has into this because you know
this has happened. I'm just like, all right, now I
get a chance to get those guys to tell themselves
a little bit. Well it happened to us.
Speaker 5 (19:04):
I think it was a Monday night or Sunday that
game against the Chargers, and man, when I say they went,
they they ran hogwile on us.
Speaker 2 (19:14):
I'm trying to remember who rang, Yeah, what was it?
I think what Mike Mike Michael Turner.
Speaker 1 (19:22):
I think he was the Falcons Chargers, Michael Michael Turner.
Speaker 2 (19:30):
Turner that game, that game against.
Speaker 5 (19:34):
US helps him get the contract he would later get
in the off season with the Falcons.
Speaker 2 (19:40):
You're the reason that he spent so much saying you
are the reason. You're like singling me out because he
got all that money and then became Michael and it
was hey, Yeah, the boys used to call him something
else after he.
Speaker 5 (19:57):
Got that bag from the Falcons because he had it
was straight to his gut.
Speaker 2 (20:01):
Yes, you think that money go to wool It did not? Yes, Yes,
So did he go to like he was like two fifteen,
he was like two forty five. Oh he was, he was.
Speaker 5 (20:11):
He was huge, and he was slow when he got
there because you look more like T. J.
Speaker 2 (20:16):
Dunckett.
Speaker 5 (20:17):
Yes, Like he spent too many nights at the waffle
House that the same guy. Yes, that slower to the
molasses in January, that's the same way I looked at it.
But it was that game on that that Monday Sunday
night that he just he just took off and it
was just one of those games. And to teach us
(20:37):
properly a lesson, Mike Shanahan put us back in pads.
Oh no, he put us back in pads. And we
had like two periods of like nine o seven forget seven,
forget seven o seven, forget one on ones. It was
just like, you know what, we're gonna put the pads
back on because I believe that you guys need to
(20:59):
learn to tackle. And it was nine o seven.
Speaker 2 (21:01):
Oh yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (21:02):
He was two twenty by the way he came in
the league and was it was listed at to forty
seven when he missed, but.
Speaker 2 (21:09):
He was about he's about road. That's crazy. That's a
way for running back. And these were his good years too.
Atlanta was when he put on it when he was
give him three hundred and seventy, three hundred and fifty
carries a year.
Speaker 5 (21:22):
But that was one of those games for us where
you know, we were riding high and it was like, okay,
well we're gonna go in, We're gonna dominate this team.
Speaker 2 (21:30):
And it was like one thing after another. Roll that's
what we were talking about earlier. But was talking about earlier. Yes,
you guys say you'll were confident going in, Yeah, and
we and we should have been. Were you over confident?
You know what?
Speaker 5 (21:50):
Maybe a little, But I think the thing that got
us was that there were things that were taking place
in that game that we didn't predict.
Speaker 2 (21:59):
Like like Turner running for.
Speaker 5 (22:01):
Those yards the way that he did, and they were
running inside and outside.
Speaker 2 (22:05):
It was just like, oh, they would just run outside.
So it was just one of those young things. Somebody
gonna be written well because they stay at LT.
Speaker 7 (22:13):
Yeah they had L but it wasn't LT that up.
Speaker 5 (22:18):
It was that guy and you get to the sideline
and you're looking at each other like na, not that guy. Yes,
And after that, man, it was just like everything fell
apart and we just had to regroup that week later.
Speaker 2 (22:33):
But it is possible to happen, you.
Speaker 1 (22:35):
Know that what I said, Like, okay, and to dive
into that a little bit further, like when you see
things going wrong in a game, most of you guys
have been to this before.
Speaker 2 (22:41):
You you scattered pat of blah blah blah.
Speaker 1 (22:43):
You think you got a good game plan and then
you get in the game and something's going wrong. How
do you correct that on the fly? Because in that game,
you guys didn't right. Obviously it didn't happen, but there
have been games where you turned it around, corrected it.
Speaker 2 (22:53):
How do you correct it on the fly?
Speaker 3 (22:55):
I'll tell you many times. Because we're down there in
the battle, we can't see it. But the coaches up
top who are in the press boxes, they can see
what's going on. They can see who's not getting to
their gaps, who's not doing the things that they need
to do, and they make it.
Speaker 2 (23:12):
We make adjustments and sometimes hey, you may be getting
out physical.
Speaker 5 (23:17):
You know, hey they're too physical for you, or or
the alternative. You can go in the halftime and there's
some it's a coming to Jesus meeting and some furniss
and then the halftime you come out with the right
Because we had one of those games when we play
against Buffalo and Tarall Owens was.
Speaker 2 (23:38):
On that team, and Marshall Lynch was on.
Speaker 6 (23:40):
The team, and I remember Fred Jackson, I remember the
first run play, and I remember what happened on the
second run play.
Speaker 5 (23:52):
John Lynn said, hey, hey, Nico almost almost tells you
exactly what he said. I'm sorry, but get the plea.
Let me just gotta clean this up for radio. He
was just like, hey, Nico, we're gonna have to hit
this dude. That's not exactly how we said it, but
that was ian PLI like, we're going to have to
really hit this dude to make him turn down, because he.
Speaker 2 (24:15):
Was one of those he was one of those guys that.
Speaker 5 (24:18):
You hit him and he was like, oh, Willy, okay,
we go is this is what we're doing?
Speaker 1 (24:25):
And once John told me that it was one of
those games, and uh, it is funny everyone. I don't
know if you guys listen to Marshaw's podcast or whatever,
but he is that dude. He's absolutely he's still that guy.
He's just wired different as far as he's like, oh,
oh you get in the way of my applebee's.
Speaker 2 (24:39):
Yes, and and and he was a physical runner.
Speaker 5 (24:41):
But that was one of those games where we had
to hunker down as a defense collectively, especially at safety,
and said, well, we got to get to this dude
before he gets going.
Speaker 2 (24:50):
If we don't. It's gonna be a long day. Don't
get past the line of the tax lines.
Speaker 1 (24:56):
Got some some great texts and the three three you're right, Yes,
the shotgun has modified single wings.
Speaker 2 (24:59):
Some other time. We'll get into that a little bit more. Yeah,
some of the time.
Speaker 1 (25:01):
The four O one, though, it has an interesting counterpoint
to this. As we are talking about trying to stay
focused and not look past Carolina, the four the four
one O here says, I live in Baltimore and all
Baltimore fans are looking past the game against us.
Speaker 2 (25:17):
Yeah, that's what we want. That, that's what we want.
We want you want that, you want to get slept
on right?
Speaker 1 (25:22):
Yeah, this time you see these guys inventing these ridiculous
narratives in order to make sure they stay dial They
like the one the Patriots. Nobody believed we could get
here whatever the Patriots everybody picture of the preseason you're.
Speaker 5 (25:33):
Talking about, you know what that that happens because in
all due respect to Baltimore right now, they're playing great football.
Speaker 2 (25:45):
They are. But do you want to say who's the call?
It was the caller's name us out of the four
when I was Aria code exer, Okay, that's his take
on it. Well, he is a Baltimore he says, they're
looking Broncos faan living in Baltimore. This is a show.
Speaker 1 (25:58):
Yeah, but Arno Rave is doing that because the great
teams he just said, the fans are looking past.
Speaker 2 (26:06):
Okay, yeah the fans. Yeah, fans, I'm telling them right now.
Speaker 1 (26:10):
Hey encourage that that that permeates the city of Baltimore
to my passions, because I'm gonna be honest with you,
Lamar Jackson and Dereck Henry, that's the one two punch.
Speaker 2 (26:18):
I would love to look past us.
Speaker 5 (26:19):
What was he don't don't eliminate the human element in
this because on any game football team on there's.
Speaker 2 (26:26):
Twenty two starting guys. And I did that.
Speaker 5 (26:29):
Every guy on on either side of the ball is
going to study for a team that they are perceived
to be able to beat.
Speaker 2 (26:38):
I trust me, I've been there.
Speaker 1 (26:39):
I think Baltimore is gonna get up for it because
and the reason I think they are is gonna look
at this defense. And you got Todd Mounkin back there,
who doesn't feel like he gets enough respects an offensive coordinator.
You have Lamar Jackson who doesn't believe he gets enough
respect as a quarterback. And you've got Derek Henry, who
everybody's calling old man Henry at thirty years old. Meanwhile,
this guy's ripping off eightyr runs at twenty two miles
an hour at thirty plus years old.
Speaker 5 (26:59):
And if I'm not miss taking the last time the
Broncos playing Balston More, they won.
Speaker 2 (27:02):
Lamar Jackson got injured in that.
Speaker 5 (27:04):
Game, I believe, and they hotly came in he did,
and Justine Simmons had.
Speaker 2 (27:08):
What like two interceptions or something like that in the game.
Believe that's correct. Yes, so they made won a little mellow,
little vengeance. I don't know.
Speaker 3 (27:17):
But though the good teams they don't they don't get
they don't have those type of games.
Speaker 2 (27:21):
They're our favorite games. Well that's what Nick Saban's hyping
up everything.
Speaker 1 (27:24):
It didn't matter if they were playing Tulsa Welding School,
all the greatest football team.
Speaker 2 (27:28):
You know, we got to I said, you gotta do it.
Can't let him look past it. What do we think
we're not gonna do. We're not gonna look past traffic
right now with dave O Bryant.
Speaker 1 (27:35):
On six six nine zeros of text line by the way,
we were incorrect. The Broncos actually lost that game of
the Ravens ten to nine when Snoop put Lee came on.
So some reason I just thought the Broncos won that game.
I think it's because it was close.
Speaker 2 (27:47):
At that point. We were counting close at Pyric victories.
It was close. It's really we're taking it. That's a victory.
Were count as a dope. Boy, we're putting it in
the moral.
Speaker 1 (27:57):
We'll put it in the orange slices. Victory category five
six sixty nine zero is the text line. Thanks to
Brian for pointing that out. By the way, as as
we as we headed to this thing, Pats are Tan
come back off the concussion. I talked to Nick about
this a little bit yesterday. I think he and I
are the same mind. Would you send him.
Speaker 2 (28:13):
This game against Carolina? Said it again, Pats or Tan
coming back off the concussion? Would you sit him against Carolina? Well,
it just it depends on what the docs say. Yeah,
I mean, well, even if he's healthy, would you, like I's.
Speaker 1 (28:24):
Say he's healthy, would you still sit him?
Speaker 2 (28:27):
Uh No, I don't think he would want to sit.
It's not about what he wants.
Speaker 3 (28:33):
I'm saying, though, if if he's good, why did you
send him twofold one?
Speaker 1 (28:39):
You don't need him, and you want to make sure
that he's fully recovered for the Baltimore game.
Speaker 2 (28:42):
Has coming up next to.
Speaker 1 (28:44):
Mathis he's good, we might sprink him out there for
a few plays, but I like, I'm probably protecting Him'm
probably put him in bubble wrap. And I'm saying, look,
I'm gonna get the Mamurray Matthewson last year.
Speaker 2 (28:55):
Get this attitude that hey, we're gonna blow him out.
That's that's why this would you do with attitude?
Speaker 1 (28:59):
That's why I said, We'll start him into the game
for a few plays and then once we get that lead,
then I'm.
Speaker 5 (29:04):
Like, no, don't don't do it at all, because once again,
this is one of those games that you don't want
to say is a sure fire win. But you should
be able to take care of this team and also
to give some of the some of the younger guys
who are going to rely on later in the season
an opportunity. And you want him to have one more week,
one more week to make sure that he's all good,
(29:26):
because if he getting nicked up here now you lose
him against Baltimore, you lose him against Kansas City, and
those games are really vital for confidence boosting. But if
you lose somebody else, whether you lose one of the
other starters. Okay, well, I was in the secondary anywhere.
Speaker 2 (29:48):
If you're good, you're good.
Speaker 3 (29:50):
Well, but the doctors have the playmi and say, yeah,
he's you shouldn't have any more impact from that concussion.
Speaker 2 (29:58):
Now, if if he has any back, yeah, absolutely don't
play him. But if he's.
Speaker 1 (30:02):
Good, man, is their value in getting reps for a
guy like the Murray mathis or getting this defense some
of these other guys in the second air reps?
Speaker 2 (30:09):
There's always value to get reps. Okay, but when the
starter is available, the starter plays.
Speaker 5 (30:14):
Okay, let's me see it goes back to availability, right, Okay,
And you know we both know how this works. If
the doctor says, are you good, and you go through
your medical protocols, even if you're.
Speaker 2 (30:26):
Not, oh great, I'm ready to go. We're good. It's
like the same thing when they called me up to
it to come in here. Yeah, I would say, but
there's a certain process you got to go through right now.
Speaker 3 (30:38):
Anyway, we have concussions, yes, and if he's going through
that process, and he says, I'm good and everybody else
I'm saying, and he's honest about it, and I'm sure he.
Speaker 2 (30:48):
Will be something.
Speaker 1 (30:49):
Nick and I gonna get to the next segment got
a few minutes on this when speaking to guy's coming
back from concussion to trying to come back and play
right now, says he's not gonna wear the Guardian cap.
Speaker 2 (30:58):
Now, to be fair, the Guardian cat.
Speaker 1 (31:01):
There's not a lot, a whole lot of data that
says that they prevent concussions out there. I mean, there's
just not there's something.
Speaker 2 (31:07):
It's better than nothing.
Speaker 1 (31:07):
Maybe you know, he says he's coming back and he's
not gonna wear it, And I'm looking at this and
I'm like, bro, I don't understand, Like at this point,
I wouldn't.
Speaker 2 (31:15):
Hit him to kill him.
Speaker 5 (31:20):
Tell you so, you saying if its outside the pocket,
you yeah, bliss, you're not gonna it.
Speaker 2 (31:25):
Would I would tack him? I would. I would do
something other than hug him and put him on the ground.
Speaker 3 (31:34):
I would do something other than put my put my
helmet in his chain through his chest.
Speaker 1 (31:38):
Just look at him. I'm just looking at him a
point and you want to get down. You want to
get down, bro, you know, like awful, let this guy
come back and play, but he wants.
Speaker 2 (31:51):
To and he wants to come out and play.
Speaker 1 (31:54):
Sometimes sometimes you got to have people say you gotta
save people from themselves.
Speaker 2 (31:58):
But the thing is, I think he made a huge
mistake by trying to run to mar Hamon. Why would
you do that?
Speaker 1 (32:04):
Anyway?
Speaker 2 (32:05):
No one looked acussion is did you put that? But
that's what he does like he he just does not
know he can't pay you the way he ever he should.
I know he should never think about you to take
that instinct out of the player though, Amen slide and
the exactly you don't get the first time you think.
(32:25):
Mike the Gain has been sitting there saying I tol
him already.
Speaker 4 (32:28):
Yeah, because if they put that dude to judo classes,
they take you about to.
Speaker 2 (32:31):
Fall better, they better get a third ball college. Ben help.
I'm not saying it doesn't I'm saying I'm saying it's effective.
But what I'm saying it is like they had to
teach that guy how to fall. He didn't use it.
You talk about judo, you need a third base coach
to teach him how to slide. Well that too, slide ye,
get on the ground. Yeah all go find Chuck Knoblock.
He didn't do anything these days, slide you would hit him?
What everything you got? Oh yeah, he's he volunteers. He volunteers.
(32:58):
He's put himself in the game.
Speaker 5 (32:59):
And they said, you're on the field, I'm not supposed
to run up to you and just kind of tap you.
Speaker 3 (33:04):
Now, I'm saying this in the steve Now, back in
the day, if Friday would be exactly.
Speaker 2 (33:10):
He volunteered to line up back there my fault. You know,
it's clean ten years from now, ten years from now.
I help him up the stairs, just like cash is clear. No,
but come on, man, go down. Oh you wrong for that.
That's where that's where he's going. Oh he's so wrong
for that. We'll talk about how long. We'll talk about
how wrong I am. During the break Braactast Country Old
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