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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Let's go to Kenay Compas for the hot line and
bring on Rob Long.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
He's with the fan there in Baltimore. Rob, how you
doing the cnon so well? You gotta do it doing
pretty well.
Speaker 1 (00:12):
We were just talking about how this Baltimore team isn't
exactly what when we conjure up Baltimore Ravens what you
think of as the Baltimore Ravens, which is an I formation,
grounded palad team with an absolutely suffocating defense.
Speaker 2 (00:24):
This year, the pass defense hasn't quite been there.
Speaker 1 (00:26):
And while they do run the ball exceptionally well with
Derek Henry Lamar Jackson, they also throw the ball very well.
Speaker 2 (00:31):
Uh, kind of a different animal than what we're used to.
Speaker 3 (00:34):
Yeah, you never had a quarterback like Lamar Jackson. That's
what we never had this before. And we're gonna do
a Kyle Bowler, Trent Dilford. Those guys only get a gun.
Joe blackgo at, Tams can go, but not like this.
Labarkagn go. If you step up, stop in the right hill,
throw it over the top. If you back up with
Pat you're running the football. He just missed everything. He's
(00:54):
Superman in the Pearl Uniforse.
Speaker 4 (00:57):
Rob when we look at this Baltimore Ravens team, like
Ben was saying, I mean, they're great against the run,
They're the best in the league against the run, but
against the past.
Speaker 2 (01:06):
Not so much more.
Speaker 4 (01:07):
And when you look at the Broncos of the past
couple of weeks, Charle Payton and both Knicks have been
able to keep the office in somewhat of the group.
So what was Zach order, he was the coordinator have
to do this week to make sure that his secondary
isn't exposed.
Speaker 3 (01:21):
First of all, you and me can get on the
field and trust Martins because that defense. Just throw the
ball at my break and I'll think it to the house.
But this Ravens secondary has been trashed throwing the ball
over the middle. It's looked like the Red season parted
in the middle. I don't I don't get it. I've
never seen a Ravens defense like this before and it's
(01:45):
sad to see. I say, I think it's the skimatic.
I think it's scibbatic because there have been times where
you know, you got guys like word quand Smith. Look
at will Quaann Smith's numbers. He has a ton of
ton of tackles, but nothing to show for it, you know,
I mean, if these stats, in my opinion, he has this.
He has the tackles, win the tackles for the losses
(02:05):
with the sacks. With an impact league, they're not there.
Roquan will get tackled because he's Roquand Smith artistly think
zach Orr, you know you'll see some experience there with
him as well. I don't think his scheme is shitting
right down to be successful with the Bartimore Ravens defense,
and that's why they brought in a consulted midway through
(02:28):
the season to help z that go out.
Speaker 2 (02:31):
Yeah, that's always a telltale sign.
Speaker 1 (02:32):
We saw some of that here when Nate Hackett was
the head coach and they immediately brought in and you
know the air quotes consulting. In fact, it was Jerry Rossberg,
formerly of Baltimore out there talking without Rob Block at
Rob Block Sports on Twitter. UH one O five to seven.
The fan in Baltimore is part of these I mean
you talking about zach Ord. Obviously there was gonna drop
off from Michael McDonald zach Orr, but is part of
(02:53):
this because you know Marlon Humphrey, n Wiggins have been
hurt is part of this is this a lack of
generating anything up front?
Speaker 2 (03:00):
The injuries up front?
Speaker 1 (03:00):
I mean, nbiuk is this is what the only healthy
defensive lineman you guys have right now?
Speaker 2 (03:04):
I believe it's is it? Is it an attrition thing
or is it schematic or is it just all of it?
Speaker 3 (03:09):
I understand what you're saying. With the injuries. That was
the last game. Those injuries weren't before there. You know,
go to come behind, come from behind victories. My team
like the Las Vegas Raiders. No, it's schematic. It's absolutely schrammatic.
When you hear guys, when you stop hearing guys' names
who have been productive their attack careers, that because you're
not scheming them into the games. I'm one hundred percent sure.
(03:32):
No one said it, but I watched these games. I'm
one hundred percent sure that this is scheme oriented you.
I mean you you have to put schemes, put great
players in positions to be great, and doesn't make players great.
We have great players. I can scheme you up, but
if you suck, you still suck with my scheme you want,
I have to scheme you up because you're a great
(03:53):
bad foot football player. You're gonna look great in my scheme.
These guys have it looked great. That tells me it's
scheme all the way and the Ravens have got to
fix that one way or.
Speaker 2 (04:03):
The other now.
Speaker 4 (04:05):
Unlike other teams, the Baltimore Ravens come into this week's
game against the Broncos with which I believe is probably
the best tight end tandem in the league, between Mark
Andrews and Isaiah Likely. What does Todd Monkin have to
do to kind of make sure that Vance Joseph is
not bringing the bletz and being able to get those
(04:25):
tight ends involved early.
Speaker 3 (04:27):
Don't forget you got Dnt Johnson this week as well.
This all physical system. I know you're not used to
saying this. With the Ravens, they are poaching, absolutely poached.
And along along of that was Lamar Jackson. This tight
end Jandam, I'm with you, it might be the best
of all of football. I haven't seen one like this
since the Patriots. Hey, Gronk Andande. To be honest with you,
(04:49):
this Titan system can win games along. Isaiah Likely doesn't
run like a tight end. He doesn't. He doesn't run
rounds like a tight end. He's unbelievable. He's a weapon
all stretch of the imagination. And then they get them
the football over the middle and make jap and Lamar
Jackson mis likely last week will play the probably would
(05:09):
have gone fifty yards with Pegval. He can't miss those
with the two tight system for him with the Baltimore
Ravens is unbelievable. They've got to get those guys in football,
and they've been able to do that so far this year.
Speaker 1 (05:22):
Lamar Jackson, a big part of what he does is
the legs. It forces you into different defenses that you
kind of don't want to be it as he's evolved
as a pass you don't want to be playing contained
with a spy and only only rushing three because that's
gonna give mold.
Speaker 2 (05:34):
Day to pick you apart. And even then if you're
running the spy.
Speaker 1 (05:36):
I mean, he's got to be hell athletic, because Lamar
is his other worldly athletic. It to me, it presents
that sort of you know, chicken or egg argument on
what you do. Are you sitting back and zone and
hoping you catch him slipping, or are you playing man,
putting the spy on him and trying to bring the heat,
force him off his spot.
Speaker 2 (05:53):
Pick your poison on that.
Speaker 1 (05:54):
What has been more effective against Lamar of late, first
of all, is.
Speaker 3 (05:59):
A line in the movie I'm Gonna get your sucker
when you want the window on the stairs from Lamar
Jackson the Cleveland Browns win, and which used to describe
as a three man rush against the Ravens. Last week,
Lamar dropped back in the bass. Nowhere to go. He
frant and twenty yards, twenty plus yards in the first down.
(06:20):
There's nothing. He's superman. If you see him hurdle two
defendants and come out of it and get to the
sidelines and stop the clock, there's another Lamar Jackson is
one of those guys. If the defense fittings them out,
that's fine. I remember with his teammate Van Noy when
he's with the New England Patriots stopped him in the backfield.
(06:41):
Lamar Jackson made a play and van Ney hugged himself,
missing Lamar. There's no defense to stop him.
Speaker 2 (06:48):
There's not.
Speaker 3 (06:49):
You have to be better than him individually. You have
to be better than him. You want to run the zone,
he'll beat you. You want to run a man, He'll
beat you. You're looking at would be one of the
most prolific offensive football players in the history of the
National Football League. He is a cheat code. There is
no defense thing to stop him. Individuals have to stop him.
Speaker 4 (07:10):
Well, Robert, that being said, obviously, you know with Lamar
and in the game now I would say healthy Lamar,
all of those things are in play. But you know,
Lamar didn't practice two times this week. He was with
the team today for practice, so he's good to go
for the game. But how much of Todd Munkin's offense
changes if Lamar's nine?
Speaker 2 (07:31):
You have to go to Josh Johnson. What are you
gonna lean on at that point?
Speaker 3 (07:36):
Jesus, you lean on Jesus? You know you no, I
just kept me. There's no now you kidding me. You
have Lamar Jackson. Lamar Jackson's hurt, so you go to
Josh Johnson. That's all the laugh together.
Speaker 1 (07:56):
Now, come on, man, we had uh we have johsh
Johnson out here for a minute. I think we're plenty
of familiars.
Speaker 3 (08:04):
God the good guy. I like him. He's getting go,
but he's not a backup for Jackson. There is no
backup for Mr Jackson. Let's be honest with you. I mean,
and you lead, you trust, you go to prayer. That's
what you go. All that stop praying, stop playing and
go to prayer, and and and hope is not a
(08:25):
strategy for incess. But in that case, hopefully you you
have a strategy success. Let's hope. If I Mar Jackson
doesn't play, not help you a Sunday. The Baltimore Ravens
are in trouble because the drop off, and there's no
indictment on Josh Johnson, they drop off from Aamar Jackson
to a backup quarterback. Give me a break, it's just
(08:47):
not come on, it's not miserable.
Speaker 2 (08:50):
I will say that Derek Henry is the hell of
a prayer though. You know what all said and done,
so nice to nice to.
Speaker 1 (08:55):
Have that there as well. How does how does Baltimore
look at this Broncos team?
Speaker 2 (08:59):
Come again?
Speaker 3 (09:01):
They look at the team that's fathering three just like them.
I mean, you know you took I don't think they
took the Cleveland Browns lightly last week. The Cleveland Browns
had a different quarterback. They were inspired playing inspired football
that came out and they beat the Ravens. They didn't
take them lightly. Tingum lightly takes away from what the
Cleveland Browns did. So, having said that at the lose
to the Cleveland Browns, maybe going up against the differ
(09:23):
Broncos that's a positive because you see a team that
on paper shouldn't be as good as you are. But
the games I played on paper, it stay the grass
and all Sunday. The Baltimore Ravens had to go out
there and play against the team it has the same
record as them, against a guy named bow Knicks who
forget about the stats. For some reason. This team plays
(09:45):
for him and they had to go out and play
that way, play that type of football game. There's the
the ver Broncos team that I believe it is very dangerous.
Speaker 2 (09:54):
Well, Rob, we appreciate the time.
Speaker 1 (09:55):
Rob Long one O five seven the fan in Baltimore,
Rob Long Sports on Twitter.
Speaker 2 (09:59):
Right, man, we appreciate it.
Speaker 1 (10:00):
We had to cut this one a little bit shorter
than we want to, but buh, this was great.
Speaker 2 (10:03):
We appreciate having you, man, any time, my friend, anytime.
All right, man, take care. Rublong
Let's go to Kenay Compas for the hot line and
bring on Rob Long.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
He's with the fan there in Baltimore. Rob, how you
doing the cnon so well? You gotta do it doing
pretty well.
Speaker 1 (00:12):
We were just talking about how this Baltimore team isn't
exactly what when we conjure up Baltimore Ravens what you
think of as the Baltimore Ravens, which is an I formation,
grounded palad team with an absolutely suffocating defense.
Speaker 2 (00:24):
This year, the pass defense hasn't quite been there.
Speaker 1 (00:26):
And while they do run the ball exceptionally well with
Derek Henry Lamar Jackson, they also throw the ball very well.
Speaker 2 (00:31):
Uh, kind of a different animal than what we're used to.
Speaker 3 (00:34):
Yeah, you never had a quarterback like Lamar Jackson. That's
what we never had this before. And we're gonna do
a Kyle Bowler, Trent Dilford. Those guys only get a gun.
Joe blackgo at, Tams can go, but not like this.
Labarkagn go. If you step up, stop in the right hill,
throw it over the top. If you back up with
Pat you're running the football. He just missed everything. He's
(00:54):
Superman in the Pearl Uniforse.
Speaker 4 (00:57):
Rob when we look at this Baltimore Ravens team, like
Ben was saying, I mean, they're great against the run,
They're the best in the league against the run, but
against the past.
Speaker 2 (01:06):
Not so much more.
Speaker 4 (01:07):
And when you look at the Broncos of the past
couple of weeks, Charle Payton and both Knicks have been
able to keep the office in somewhat of the group.
So what was Zach order, he was the coordinator have
to do this week to make sure that his secondary
isn't exposed.
Speaker 3 (01:21):
First of all, you and me can get on the
field and trust Martins because that defense. Just throw the
ball at my break and I'll think it to the house.
But this Ravens secondary has been trashed throwing the ball
over the middle. It's looked like the Red season parted
in the middle. I don't I don't get it. I've
never seen a Ravens defense like this before and it's
(01:45):
sad to see. I say, I think it's the skimatic.
I think it's scibbatic because there have been times where
you know, you got guys like word quand Smith. Look
at will Quaann Smith's numbers. He has a ton of
ton of tackles, but nothing to show for it, you know,
I mean, if these stats, in my opinion, he has this.
He has the tackles, win the tackles for the losses
(02:05):
with the sacks. With an impact league, they're not there.
Roquan will get tackled because he's Roquand Smith artistly think
zach Orr, you know you'll see some experience there with
him as well. I don't think his scheme is shitting
right down to be successful with the Bartimore Ravens defense,
and that's why they brought in a consulted midway through
(02:28):
the season to help z that go out.
Speaker 2 (02:31):
Yeah, that's always a telltale sign.
Speaker 1 (02:32):
We saw some of that here when Nate Hackett was
the head coach and they immediately brought in and you
know the air quotes consulting. In fact, it was Jerry Rossberg,
formerly of Baltimore out there talking without Rob Block at
Rob Block Sports on Twitter. UH one O five to seven.
The fan in Baltimore is part of these I mean
you talking about zach Ord. Obviously there was gonna drop
off from Michael McDonald zach Orr, but is part of
(02:53):
this because you know Marlon Humphrey, n Wiggins have been
hurt is part of this is this a lack of
generating anything up front?
Speaker 2 (03:00):
The injuries up front?
Speaker 1 (03:00):
I mean, nbiuk is this is what the only healthy
defensive lineman you guys have right now?
Speaker 2 (03:04):
I believe it's is it? Is it an attrition thing
or is it schematic or is it just all of it?
Speaker 3 (03:09):
I understand what you're saying. With the injuries. That was
the last game. Those injuries weren't before there. You know,
go to come behind, come from behind victories. My team
like the Las Vegas Raiders. No, it's schematic. It's absolutely schrammatic.
When you hear guys, when you stop hearing guys' names
who have been productive their attack careers, that because you're
not scheming them into the games. I'm one hundred percent sure.
(03:32):
No one said it, but I watched these games. I'm
one hundred percent sure that this is scheme oriented you.
I mean you you have to put schemes, put great
players in positions to be great, and doesn't make players great.
We have great players. I can scheme you up, but
if you suck, you still suck with my scheme you want,
I have to scheme you up because you're a great
(03:53):
bad foot football player. You're gonna look great in my scheme.
These guys have it looked great. That tells me it's
scheme all the way and the Ravens have got to
fix that one way or.
Speaker 2 (04:03):
The other now.
Speaker 4 (04:05):
Unlike other teams, the Baltimore Ravens come into this week's
game against the Broncos with which I believe is probably
the best tight end tandem in the league, between Mark
Andrews and Isaiah Likely. What does Todd Monkin have to
do to kind of make sure that Vance Joseph is
not bringing the bletz and being able to get those
(04:25):
tight ends involved early.
Speaker 3 (04:27):
Don't forget you got Dnt Johnson this week as well.
This all physical system. I know you're not used to
saying this. With the Ravens, they are poaching, absolutely poached.
And along along of that was Lamar Jackson. This tight
end Jandam, I'm with you, it might be the best
of all of football. I haven't seen one like this
since the Patriots. Hey, Gronk Andande. To be honest with you,
(04:49):
this Titan system can win games along. Isaiah Likely doesn't
run like a tight end. He doesn't. He doesn't run
rounds like a tight end. He's unbelievable. He's a weapon
all stretch of the imagination. And then they get them
the football over the middle and make jap and Lamar
Jackson mis likely last week will play the probably would
(05:09):
have gone fifty yards with Pegval. He can't miss those
with the two tight system for him with the Baltimore
Ravens is unbelievable. They've got to get those guys in football,
and they've been able to do that so far this year.
Speaker 1 (05:22):
Lamar Jackson, a big part of what he does is
the legs. It forces you into different defenses that you
kind of don't want to be it as he's evolved
as a pass you don't want to be playing contained
with a spy and only only rushing three because that's
gonna give mold.
Speaker 2 (05:34):
Day to pick you apart. And even then if you're
running the spy.
Speaker 1 (05:36):
I mean, he's got to be hell athletic, because Lamar
is his other worldly athletic. It to me, it presents
that sort of you know, chicken or egg argument on
what you do. Are you sitting back and zone and
hoping you catch him slipping, or are you playing man,
putting the spy on him and trying to bring the heat,
force him off his spot.
Speaker 2 (05:53):
Pick your poison on that.
Speaker 1 (05:54):
What has been more effective against Lamar of late, first
of all, is.
Speaker 3 (05:59):
A line in the movie I'm Gonna get your sucker
when you want the window on the stairs from Lamar
Jackson the Cleveland Browns win, and which used to describe
as a three man rush against the Ravens. Last week,
Lamar dropped back in the bass. Nowhere to go. He
frant and twenty yards, twenty plus yards in the first down.
(06:20):
There's nothing. He's superman. If you see him hurdle two
defendants and come out of it and get to the
sidelines and stop the clock, there's another Lamar Jackson is
one of those guys. If the defense fittings them out,
that's fine. I remember with his teammate Van Noy when
he's with the New England Patriots stopped him in the backfield.
(06:41):
Lamar Jackson made a play and van Ney hugged himself,
missing Lamar. There's no defense to stop him.
Speaker 2 (06:48):
There's not.
Speaker 3 (06:49):
You have to be better than him individually. You have
to be better than him. You want to run the zone,
he'll beat you. You want to run a man, He'll
beat you. You're looking at would be one of the
most prolific offensive football players in the history of the
National Football League. He is a cheat code. There is
no defense thing to stop him. Individuals have to stop him.
Speaker 4 (07:10):
Well, Robert, that being said, obviously, you know with Lamar
and in the game now I would say healthy Lamar,
all of those things are in play. But you know,
Lamar didn't practice two times this week. He was with
the team today for practice, so he's good to go
for the game. But how much of Todd Munkin's offense
changes if Lamar's nine?
Speaker 2 (07:31):
You have to go to Josh Johnson. What are you
gonna lean on at that point?
Speaker 3 (07:36):
Jesus, you lean on Jesus? You know you no, I
just kept me. There's no now you kidding me. You
have Lamar Jackson. Lamar Jackson's hurt, so you go to
Josh Johnson. That's all the laugh together.
Speaker 1 (07:56):
Now, come on, man, we had uh we have johsh
Johnson out here for a minute. I think we're plenty
of familiars.
Speaker 3 (08:04):
God the good guy. I like him. He's getting go,
but he's not a backup for Jackson. There is no
backup for Mr Jackson. Let's be honest with you. I mean,
and you lead, you trust, you go to prayer. That's
what you go. All that stop praying, stop playing and
go to prayer, and and and hope is not a
(08:25):
strategy for incess. But in that case, hopefully you you
have a strategy success. Let's hope. If I Mar Jackson
doesn't play, not help you a Sunday. The Baltimore Ravens
are in trouble because the drop off, and there's no
indictment on Josh Johnson, they drop off from Aamar Jackson
to a backup quarterback. Give me a break, it's just
(08:47):
not come on, it's not miserable.
Speaker 2 (08:50):
I will say that Derek Henry is the hell of
a prayer though. You know what all said and done,
so nice to nice to.
Speaker 1 (08:55):
Have that there as well. How does how does Baltimore
look at this Broncos team?
Speaker 2 (08:59):
Come again?
Speaker 3 (09:01):
They look at the team that's fathering three just like them.
I mean, you know you took I don't think they
took the Cleveland Browns lightly last week. The Cleveland Browns
had a different quarterback. They were inspired playing inspired football
that came out and they beat the Ravens. They didn't
take them lightly. Tingum lightly takes away from what the
Cleveland Browns did. So, having said that at the lose
to the Cleveland Browns, maybe going up against the differ
(09:23):
Broncos that's a positive because you see a team that
on paper shouldn't be as good as you are. But
the games I played on paper, it stay the grass
and all Sunday. The Baltimore Ravens had to go out
there and play against the team it has the same
record as them, against a guy named bow Knicks who
forget about the stats. For some reason. This team plays
(09:45):
for him and they had to go out and play
that way, play that type of football game. There's the
the ver Broncos team that I believe it is very dangerous.
Speaker 2 (09:54):
Well, Rob, we appreciate the time.
Speaker 1 (09:55):
Rob Long one O five seven the fan in Baltimore,
Rob Long Sports on Twitter.
Speaker 2 (09:59):
Right, man, we appreciate it.
Speaker 1 (10:00):
We had to cut this one a little bit shorter
than we want to, but buh, this was great.
Speaker 2 (10:03):
We appreciate having you, man, any time, my friend, anytime.
All right, man, take care. Rublong
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